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This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America-in large, bold letters. This was a letter to the editor August 29th in a Jackson, MS newspaper.
Dear sirs:
During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple, elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone.
Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status:
Medicaid.
She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care.
Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses.
It is a crisis of culture.
A culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance.
A culture that thinks, "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me."
Life is really not that hard. Most os us reap what we sow. Don't you agree?
Dr. Starner Jones, MD
Jackson, MS
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BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nailed it.
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BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nailed it.
There can be NO argument on this one.
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meh... the western world doesn't want to see even those without sense in their countries to die in misery without any potential for intervention...
GO FUCK YOURSELF
Why don't we talk about your inability to stick to nature's course of reproduction and sexuality? theres the fuckin crisis of culture
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well said.
Good punch to the stupid society.
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Its worse over here,a niggero came into my shop wanting 'tablets or protein to give him muscles'
I said 'do you even train with weights?'
He said 'No,but I can get the health board to pay for a gym for me if it'll help'
I then asked him to leave my shop
Luckily,being a member of a private gym,the gym commitee can refuse a person membership if they feel like it,so none of these scum or romanians in our gym,or no Irish jobless leeches in there either
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Its worse over here,a niggero came into my shop wanting 'tablets or protein to give him muscles'
I said 'do you even train with weights?'
He said 'No,but I can get the health board to pay for a gym for me if it'll help'
I then asked him to leave my shop
Luckily,being a member of a private gym,the gym commitee can refuse a person membership if they feel like it,so none of these scum or romanians in our gym,or no Irish jobless leeches in there either
Sevastase?
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'She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.'
This isn't news, it's tabloid fear mongering, Moose. Oh, wait. Carry on.
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Yeah I dunno, it's social causes partly at least. I think if you have a sh!t life then a few bucks a day on some fags to alleviate day to day depression hardly seems the same as hundreds of thousands on health care, even if you can ergue in the long run it is. What a piece of shit country anyway to be so rich but have no NHS.
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'She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.'
This isn't news, it's tabloid fear mongering, Moose. Oh, wait. Carry on.
Put this insolent one with the Deserve Nots.
Unt let zis be a lesson to ze rest of you!
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Crisis of culture......buckle that chin-strap! It's only gonna get worse as generation "something for nothing" continues to demand everything w/o working for shite! The T-ball syndrome is alive n kickin....everyone recieves a trophy whether finishing 1st place or dead last.
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'She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.'
This isn't news, it's tabloid fear mongering, Moose. Oh, wait. Carry on.
what are you talking about? my wife works at a pharmacy and 100% of her colored patients are on medicaid while pulling up in an escalade. and my wife's not even racist a realist!
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what are you talking about? my wife works at a pharmacy and 100% of her colored patients are on medicaid while pulling up in an escalade. and my wife's not even racist a realist!
I tried to tell my parents to drop my insurance all the time - they have me on the cobra plan with bcbs - like $350/month for me alone
I figure if I get sick I go to hospital - they have to treat me - then I rack up debt and file for medicaid in a few years then I can get an escalade, fresh nikes, my hair braided, a balla chain, some digital cameras at 'da traphouse', and get zaytoven to do some beats for me
but I end up in the hospital every 2yrs or so for something or other so they wont :-[
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what are you talking about? my wife works at a pharmacy and 100% of her colored patients are on medicaid while pulling up in an escalade. and my wife's not even racist a realist!
AWESOME !!!! hahaha
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well said.
Good punch to the stupid society.
all hail kyomu
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what are you talking about? my wife works at a pharmacy and 100% of her colored patients are on medicaid while pulling up in an escalade. and my wife's not even racist a realist!
My point is that it isn't news, it's an op/ed piece with all the right buttons that Moose like to push -ie. race and money and (another) chance for him to sneer at someone.
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what are you talking about? my wife works at a pharmacy and 100% of her colored patients are on medicaid while pulling up in an escalade. and my wife's not even racist a realist!
don't fret over him, MBP
he knows not what he says
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My point is that it isn't news, it's an op/ed piece with all the right buttons that Moose like to push -ie. race and money and (another) chance for him to sneer at someone.
But chimps, all the points the writer makes are vaild and true. You canadians don't have the close-up view of this bullshit that we do on a daily basis.
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But chimps, all the points the writer makes are vaild and true. You canadians don't have the close-up view of this bullshit that we do on a daily basis.
I was in Halifax,Canada a couple of years ago.we stopped at the hospital to visit a friend that worked there.
he met us in the waiting room in the emergency ward...do you know the wait is so long that they have cots out for people to sleep on :-\
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it's about the government (no racist)
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But chimps, all the points the writer makes are vaild and true. You canadians don't have the close-up view of this bullshit that we do on a daily basis.
Oh, I'm not doubting that these people exists. We have GOMERS here, too. (Even some Americans who try to get free health care on 'day trips' ;D ) but this is just Moose fear monger as per usual, is my point.
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Oh, I'm not doubting that these people exists. We have GOMERS here, too. (Even some Americans who try to get free health care on 'day trips' ;D ) but this is just Moose fear monger as per usual, is my point.
Oh, what's a little fear mongering among friends? 8)
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I was in Halifax,Canada a couple of years ago.we stopped at the hospital to visit a friend that worked there.
he met us in the waiting room in the emergency ward...do you know the wait is so long that they have cots out for people to sleep on :-\
I don't ever go to the hospital like this. Yes, the waiting rooms are filled with GOMERS and 'trash' who think something is wrong with their leg. If I think something is wrong, which is very rare, I phone my doc and I get seen pronto. If a real emergency happened, like I broke my arm or car accident, you better believe I would be wheeled past all those sitting around watching tv in the waiting room.
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My point is that it isn't news, it's an op/ed piece with all the right buttons that Moose like to push -ie. race and money and (another) chance for him to sneer at someone.
Actually, whatever the buttons the article allegedly wants to push, the truth is I see kids constantly being fed total junk..sodas, candy, twinkies all around me. The parents of these kids eat just as bad and you see these three hundred pound women walking around with their fat wobbly asses....And I have to have my taxes raised to pay for these idiots' health care when they don't even bother to live a remotely healthy lifestyle? Sorry, that socialist bleeding heart crap doesn't fly here in America. People need to take some responsibility for their actions.
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I got four toes mangled once, true story.
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I don't ever go to the hospital like this. Yes, the waiting rooms are filled with GOMERS and 'trash' who think something is wrong with their leg. If I think something is wrong, which is very rare, I phone my doc and I get seen pronto. If a real emergency happened, like I broke my arm or car accident, you better believe I would be wheeled past all those sitting around watching tv in the waiting room.
And that is exactly what happens here too. The leeches use the current emergency rooms as their "primary care" provider instead of going to see their doc because hospitals, although they aren't allowed to turn them away, pass on the cost to those of us with insurance. We just need a plan where, unless you are in dire need of emergency care, you don't go to the emergency room. And the hospitals should not see these people with a "sore foot" on Monday morning because they are hungover from the weekend and don't want to go to work.
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Actually, whatever the buttons the article allegedly wants to push, the truth is I see kids constantly being fed total junk..sodas, candy, twinkies all around me. The parents of these kids eat just as bad and you see these three hundred pound women walking around with their fat wobbly asses....And I have to have my taxes raised to pay for these idiots' health care when they don't even bother to live a remotely healthy lifestyle? Sorry, that socialist bleeding heart crap doesn't fly here in America. People need to take some responsibility for their actions.
I agree. Pisses me off, too. There's an assisted living center near me with the feebs who have to have a Rascal to haul their fat ass around or the women smoking with their oxygen tanks, etc. I take comfort in my higher quality of life and don't let it ruin my day, is all.
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There can be NO argument on this one.
Sure there is an argument. That same person that was sitting there in the ER was probably an inner city youth (of minority descent, all facts leading to an African American) that is fully capable of having a job, but instead of doing so, probably refuses to make a honest living and resorts to either selling drugs and/or living off the system by having 5+ kids and using welfare as her sole means of support.
Blacks, destroying our society one city block at a time...
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And that is exactly what happens here too. The leeches use the current emergency rooms as their "primary care" provider instead of going to see their doc because hospitals, although they aren't allowed to turn them away, pass on the cost to those of us with insurance. We just need a plan where, unless you are in dire need of emergency care, you don't go to the emergency room. And the hospitals should not see these people with a "sore foot" on Monday morning because they are hungover from the weekend and don't want to go to work.
In one! My Doc is aces and says 'if you're not sick, don't come and see me.'
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I don't ever go to the hospital like this. Yes, the waiting rooms are filled with GOMERS and 'trash' who think something is wrong with their leg. If I think something is wrong, which is very rare, I phone my doc and I get seen pronto. If a real emergency happened, like I broke my arm or car accident, you better believe I would be wheeled past all those sitting around watching tv in the waiting room.
English snob!!!
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Actually, whatever the buttons the article allegedly wants to push, the truth is I see kids constantly being fed total junk..sodas, candy, twinkies all around me. The parents of these kids eat just as bad and you see these three hundred pound women walking around with their fat wobbly asses....And I have to have my taxes raised to pay for these idiots' health care when they don't even bother to live a remotely healthy lifestyle? Sorry, that socialist bleeding heart crap doesn't fly here in America. People need to take some responsibility for their actions.
post of the month
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And that is exactly what happens here too. The leeches use the current emergency rooms as their "primary care" provider instead of going to see their doc because hospitals, although they aren't allowed to turn them away, pass on the cost to those of us with insurance. We just need a plan where, unless you are in dire need of emergency care, you don't go to the emergency room. And the hospitals should not see these people with a "sore foot" on Monday morning because they are hungover from the weekend and don't want to go to work.
They don't... Hospitals in my area simply provide those patients with a referral to go to one of the local clinics to get treated. Albeit, they will have the triage nurse take their vitals and assuming that they appear stable, they just refer them. They are nice enough to refer them after they've put in the mandatory 12+ hours of wait in the ER reception area.
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Sure there is an argument. That same person that was sitting there in the ER was probably an inner city youth (of minority descent, all facts leading to an African American) that is fully capable of having a job, but instead of doing so, probably refuses to make a honest living and resorts to either selling drugs and/or living off the system by having 5+ kids and using welfare as her sole means of support.
Blacks, destroying our society one city block at a time...
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It's not just blacks. It's people with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness.
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English snob!!!
LOL. Less snobbishness, than making a (intelligent?) strategic choice. Good to see the spirit of Debussey is with us. ;D
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It's not just blacks. It's people with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness.
= blacks
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She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care.
ya got that right.
People are all pissed that Obama is going to require people to get health care. Not a bad idea if you think of stupid people buying Marlboro's who don't have insurance. Most people (who have a brain and decent luck at least) carry some sort of insurance.
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I don't see this as a race issue at all.
Every weekend I talk to a lot of trashy people who sit on barstools drinking and smoking all night, many of whom complain about not having health insurance. I've been buying my own for years, even as the price steadily goes up. I would rather pay that, than my cell phone bill. I'm pretty flippant about paying bills, doing it when I get to it - but the health insurance gets paid automatically when I get it.
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= blacks
Haha. ;D
I don't know man. I've met plenty of white guys.
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It's not just blacks. It's people with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness.
Where I'm from, the overwhelming amount of people that fit that description happen to be black. Also, I've seen enough cases of people with "poor upbringing" that are smart enough to know what's right versus wrong and that strive to do their best to better themselves and their families. (Cue: The poor holocaust survivor that came to this country with only $.15 in their pocket and somehow managed to own half the city of New York, while bring their community of Jews to prosperity)
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This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America-in large, bold letters. This was a letter to the editor August 29th in a Jackson, MS newspaper.
Dear sirs:
During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple, elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone.
Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status:
Medicaid.
She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care.
Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses.
It is a crisis of culture.
A culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance.
A culture that thinks, "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me."
Life is really not that hard. Most os us reap what we sow. Don't you agree?
Dr. Starner Jones, MD
Jackson, MS
I work in an ER. One of the biggest ER's on the southside of Chicago. 8 out of 10 patients are "them" described by the post above. I noticed one thing. All patients in the age group of 18-45 (prime working years) not some. Not a few. All. Absolute. 100% of them are either unemployed or DISABLED. You then go make an assessment of the patient and they are as healthy and capable as you or I am. For shits and kicks I will hold their chart and look pensive like I am taking in info and pretend I am scribbling something down and ask them what their DISABILITY is. I usually get...
" got me asthma "
" got suga diabetes "
" got a bad back "
Interesting. 9 out of 10 of those patients have a new PERR of Nike Air Force-1s or Air MAXX, their HURR did, Ghetto claws (nails elaborately did) bling-bling, the latest ipod or extravvagant cell phone ALWAYS with the latest hip/hop song on the radio and designer clothing like Sean John.
Amazing.
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Where I'm from, the overwhelming amount of people that fit that description happen to be black. Also, I've seen enough cases of people with "poor upbringing" that are smart enough to know what's right versus wrong and that strive to do their best to better themselves and their families. (Cue: The poor holocaust survivor that came to this country with only $.15 in their pocket and somehow managed to own half the city of New York, while bring their community of Jews to prosperity)
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I admit I'm fortunate enough to be insulated from that situation, so I really can't argue with someone who is living in the thick of it, but my impression is that where you have what you could call a black problem, the UK has a chav problem, Australia has an Australian problem, etc.
I'd like to see the root of things addressed, so that people don't feel like there's no point in getting off their asses and having a worthwhile life, but that's because I'm an eternally optimistic lib I guess. There's always going to be a % of the population that are destined for porchmonkeyness, whatever their color.
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I stopped going to the doctor
Last year I went to get my bloodwork done
A consultation alone here with a doctor costs 55euros
So last time I was at doctors,a black and a polish woman were in front of me in queue
They flashed their medical card (free healthcare pass) as I paid my 55euros
Sickening
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I admit I'm fortunate enough to be insulated from that situation, so I really can't argue with someone who is living in the thick of it, but my impression is that where you have what you could call a black problem, the UK has a chav problem, Australia has an Australian problem, etc.
I'd like to see the root of things addressed, so that people don't feel like there's no point in getting off their asses and having a worthwhile life, but that's because I'm an eternally optimistic lib I guess. There's always going to be a % of the population that are destined for porchmonkeyness, whatever their color.
For a further discussion of this topic, I'll refer you to our resident expert in matters of sociology - manbearpig.
The man has a pHD in Africana studies.
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For a further discussion of this topic, I'll refer you to our resident expert in matters of sociology - manbearpig.
The man has a pHD in Africana studies.
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yes, thank you my penis worshipping friend. i have indeed gotten a few PHD's in spookology.
as for 240 having white niggs who are useless...well, that's florida for you.
you don't have to be brown to be a piece of shit, but if you're a piece of shit, you are brown - my doctoral dissertation. Got an A minus.
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I work in an ER. One of the biggest ER's on the southside of Chicago. 8 out of 10 patients are "them" described by the post above. I noticed one thing. All patients in the age group of 18-45 (prime working years) not some. Not a few. All. Absolute. 100% of them are either unemployed or DISABLED. You then go make an assessment of the patient and they are as healthy and capable as you or I am. For shits and kicks I will hold their chart and look pensive like I am taking in info and pretend I am scribbling something down and ask them what their DISABILITY is. I usually get...
" got me asthma "
" got suga diabetes "
" got a bad back "
Interesting. 9 out of 10 of those patients have a new PERR of Nike Air Force-1s or Air MAXX, their HURR did, Ghetto claws (nails elaborately did) bling-bling, the latest ipod or extravvagant cell phone ALWAYS with the latest hip/hop song on the radio and designer clothing like Sean John.
Amazing.
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it's funny how none of those ailments seem to prevent them from getting their grove on and pumping out illegitmate kid after kid
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They don't... Hospitals in my area simply provide those patients with a referral to go to one of the local clinics to get treated. Albeit, they will have the triage nurse take their vitals and assuming that they appear stable, they just refer them. They are nice enough to refer them after they've put in the mandatory 12+ hours of wait in the ER reception area.
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They do... in my area. Have multiple family and friends who work at the largest hospital here. The are often just looking for pain pills, day off of work, etc....
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whites are disapearing. Colored third worlders are pouring in from everywhere... they ll rule our own nations in only a matter of decades and we will become an ethnic minority.
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my last experience in the ER i observed a women walk with her 11 year old son up to the counter to note to the nurse handing out paper work, "hes got a bit of a cough and a sour throat".. Mind you in this is the ER!!! Not a vitamin store, pharmacy, or dr office, a PACKED ER with nearly every seat taken by a non-paying medical/medicaid person...
Am I wrong, (going in with my premium plan thats backed by thousands of employees also Paying IN) that I ought to go ahead of the 11 year old with a runny nose in the damn ER?!
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They do... in my area. Have multiple family and friends who work at the largest hospital here. The are often just looking for pain pills, day off of work, etc....
This is true. Usually on Friday's we get a large influx of patients in the 20'3-30's that are looking for a 3 day weekend. They usually claim 'severe back pain'. They get there around 6am. Their vital signs are always stable. B.P. always normal (if you are in pain... your B.P. is always very very high) and they rate their pain at a 10 without any tears, labored breathing or true signs of physical pain.
They get a script for Ibuprofin which they don't care. They just want a doctor's note so they can present to their boss. Whites are usually guilty of that.
Coloreds come in for ANYTHING. A hangnail (I've seen it), a cough, a cold, headache, stomach ache. Whatever. I honestly believe they come in because they literally have nothing better to do. At the ER they get a tv in their room. Unlimited phone use (they all need to use the phone) a few meals and if they are lucky medicine prescribed to them. Some of them know the system so well they know which attending doctor is working on which day and which shift. They know damn well doctor so and so ONLY prescribes Ibuprofren. They know who will prescribe Norco or Vicodin. It's insane.
Not a day goes by we don't have to call security to escort a colored out because they don't want to leave or they need to make one more call or want one more tray.
It is refreshing to hear the black doctors or black nurses say behind closed doors or under their breathe how much they can't stand these 'sparklin wiggles'. I never heard a white doctor or white nurse say anything like that.
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I work in an ER. One of the biggest ER's on the southside of Chicago. 8 out of 10 patients are "them" described by the post above. I noticed one thing. All patients in the age group of 18-45 (prime working years) not some. Not a few. All. Absolute. 100% of them are either unemployed or DISABLED. You then go make an assessment of the patient and they are as healthy and capable as you or I am. For shits and kicks I will hold their chart and look pensive like I am taking in info and pretend I am scribbling something down and ask them what their DISABILITY is. I usually get...
" got me asthma "
" got suga diabetes "
" got a bad back "
Interesting. 9 out of 10 of those patients have a new PERR of Nike Air Force-1s or Air MAXX, their HURR did, Ghetto claws (nails elaborately did) bling-bling, the latest ipod or extravvagant cell phone ALWAYS with the latest hip/hop song on the radio and designer clothing like Sean John.
Amazing.
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My wife's an RN that works the ER often in north Florida and it's a very common occurence there too. There's alot of porch monkeys around here too ::)
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If the health care bill passes then.. what should we all do? Boycott, join a group that doesnt pay, and taunt them into arresting like the measure may call for?
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my last experience in the ER i observed a women walk with her 11 year old son up to the counter to note to the nurse handing out paper work, "hes got a bit of a cough and a sour throat".. Mind you in this is the ER!!! Not a vitamin store, pharmacy, or dr office, a PACKED ER with nearly every seat taken my a non-paying medical/medicaid person...
Am I wrong, (going in with my premium plan thats backed by thousands of employees also Paying IN) that I ought to go ahead of the 11 year old with a runny nose in the damn ER?!
I see that everyday! People use the ER like a primary doctor's office. I've seen bitches come in simply to take a pregnancy test. That's it! They are told by the triage nurses that they are in an ER.. they should go to Walgreen's to get a pregnancy test, they are not in immediate distress and they will not be seen for a long time. Their answer is always the same... "dass aight I culd wait."
Supposedly being pregnant or needing to know you are pregnant is considered a medical neccessity and an ER has to service the patient as they have a right to know and we have the tools to find out for them.
The ER I work in has 40 beds. 40. During peak times... 38 out of the 40 do NOT need to be there.
I'm the idiot who pays $30 a week so they can do that, though.
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My wife's an RN that works the ER often in north Florida and it's a very common occurence there too. There's alot of porch monkeys around here too ::)
I believe it. I also always notice when coloreds are in the ER they have to have half their family tree in there with them. When they leave it looks like Hurricane LaToya went through there. Skittles all over the floor, empty bags of Flaming Hot Cheetos, spilled Orange Crush, McDonald's fries on the floor... just a complete mess.
I can't even count how many times the black nurses or black doctor's get into arguments with patients because the patient says something along the lines of them having a profession or them not playing the 'special treatment cuz I a sista or brutha' game with them. I've hear this one female doctor who is black go off on so many black patients yelling... "That is NO EXCUSE! I was raised without a father and on welfare but I chose education and a life of productivity. I will NOT be your attending doctor anymore. I will send in another doctor. " and they storm out.
Coloreds get angry at other coloreds for getting an education and 'acting white'. The same doctor I am thinking of. She is black. I've HEARD her tell black patients... "what does FIN, mean? I'm sorry but please speak to me like an adult. I am not your 'homey' outside."
I often have to translate ebonics and street slang just like I do on Getbig.
Doctor: How long have you been feeling chest pain, maam?
Patient: I be feelin' it fo' a MINUTE.
Doctor: Just one minute? It started a minute ago when you came in?
Patient: Naaaa... fo a MINUTE!
Doctor: I'm sorry... you were triaged in 30 minutes ago. You told the triage nurse your chest pain has been present since last night. Did it go away and come back a minute ago?
Patient: Naaaa... isss been like dis fo a MINUTE.
Blockhead: Uh, Doc. She means it's been hurting her for quite some time. " a minute" means "a while".
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what worries me more is that these nutbags don't have the conscience or ethics/values to understand that they don't deserve the luxuries they enjoy... even I sometimes feel like I don't deserve the things I get... i'll admit it - i'm fuckin' lazy as hell, but at least I'm working towards earning my livelihood
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Research has been done to examine the benefits of a healthier population in regards to a nations spending on healthcare. What they found was surprising, if the community is healthier, a nation's spending goes up! The simplified reason is that the unhealthy die quicker.
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I often have to translate ebonics and street slang just like I do on Getbig.
Doctor: How long have you been feeling chest pain, maam?
Patient: I be feelin' it fo' a MINUTE.
Doctor: Just one minute? It started a minute ago when you came in?
Patient: Naaaa... fo a MINUTE!
Doctor: I'm sorry... you were triaged in 30 minutes ago. You told the triage nurse your chest pain has been present since last night. Did it go away and come back a minute ago?
Patient: Naaaa... isss been like dis fo a MINUTE.
Blockhead: Uh, Doc. She means it's been hurting her for quite some time. " a minute" means "a while".
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ROFL.....CLASSIC !!!!!!!
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It's not just blacks. It's people with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness.
True.
But beyond that is the fact that no one in the upper-middle class or above actually WANTS people in the underclass to begin striving for a better life.
We want the underclass, we NEED the underclass, and the last thing we want is for them to begin leaving their 'hoods and trailer parks and getting advanced educations and great jobs. We want their entrepreneurship limited to street activities and not to community improvement.
Why? Because if they become competitive, then over time, that will make things more difficult for our descendants and our ability to build wealth will be diminished.
The wealthy figured out a long time ago that it was much cheaper to pay people to stay poor than to encourage them to pursue a better life.
Truth.
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ROFL.....CLASSIC !!!!!!!
X's 2!
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True.
But beyond that is the fact that no one in the upper-middle class or above actually WANTS people in the underclass to begin striving for a better life.
We want the underclass, we NEED the underclass, and the last thing we want is for them to begin leaving their 'hoods and trailer parks and getting advanced educations and great jobs. We want their entrepreneurship limited to street activities and not to community improvement.
Why? Because if they become competitive, then over time, that will make things more difficult for our descendants and our ability to build wealth will be diminished.
The wealthy figured out a long time ago that it was much cheaper to pay people to stay poor than to encourage them to pursue a better life.
Truth.
Very true Tre......I see those years at Central did you some good. ;D
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True.
But beyond that is the fact that no one in the upper-middle class or above actually WANTS people in the underclass to begin striving for a better life.
We want the underclass, we NEED the underclass, and the last thing we want is for them to begin leaving their 'hoods and trailer parks and getting advanced educations and great jobs. We want their entrepreneurship limited to street activities and not to community improvement.
Why? Because if they become competitive, then over time, that will make things more difficult for our descendants and our ability to build wealth will be diminished.
The wealthy figured out a long time ago that it was much cheaper to pay people to stay poor than to encourage them to pursue a better life.
Truth.
Don't agree there. Only leftist liberals want the underclass. They never encourage the underclass to work hard or better themselves. Instead, they preach welfare and entitlement, which only further discourages the underclass from setting goals and taking action.The whole concept of America..originally..not what it is now..is that in this country you actually have the opportunity to better yourself..Which was proved by the turn of the century immigrants, who worked hard and made a life for themselves. Compare the Italian, German and Irish immigrants with the lowlife, parasitic third world illegals that proliferate here today.
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True.
But beyond that is the fact that no one in the upper-middle class or above actually WANTS people in the underclass to begin striving for a better life.
We want the underclass, we NEED the underclass, and the last thing we want is for them to begin leaving their 'hoods and trailer parks and getting advanced educations and great jobs. We want their entrepreneurship limited to street activities and not to community improvement.
Why? Because if they become competitive, then over time, that will make things more difficult for our descendants and our ability to build wealth will be diminished.
The wealthy figured out a long time ago that it was much cheaper to pay people to stay poor than to encourage them to pursue a better life.
Truth.
I still owe you a pm. Sorry matey, I'm a crappy pen pal! Tomorrow! Swear!
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Don't agree there. Only leftist liberals want the underclass. They never encourage the underclass to work hard or better themselves. Instead, they preach welfare and entitlement, which only further discourages the underclass from setting goals and taking action.The whole concept of America..originally..not what it is now..is that in this country you actually have the opportunity to better yourself..Which was proved by the turn of the century immigrants, who worked hard and made a life for themselves. Compare the Italian, German and Irish immigrants with the lowlife, parasitic third world illegals that proliferate here today.
I hear what you are saying, but I think Tre's point is valid. The wealthy love having immigrants work for dirt cheap and that's why neither political party will do anything about the immigration problem. Lib dems want their votes and wealthy repubs want their cheap ass labor. If they can't get the immigrants, they will take the trailer trash.....sad reality.
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I believe it. I also always notice when coloreds are in the ER they have to have half their family tree in there with them. When they leave it looks like Hurricane LaToya went through there. Skittles all over the floor, empty bags of Flaming Hot Cheetos, spilled Orange Crush, McDonald's fries on the floor... just a complete mess.
Damn dude,you must of been in the emergency room when I went last spring!
man,lady,and two little things that spent two hours screaming,yelling,eating,and jumping on things like they just broke outta the zoo.
I had a absolute splitting headache so it was not alot of fun.
my dad brought me and he told them "You need to calm them down before my son snaps".they looked at us like we were from another planet.
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Damn dude,you must of been in the emergency room when I went last spring!
man,lady,and two little things that spent two hours screaming,yelling,eating,and jumping on things like they just broke outta the zoo.
I had a absolute splitting headache so it was not alot of fun.
my dad brought me and he told them "You need to calm them down before my son snaps".they looked at us like we were from another planet.
It's like that in EVERY ER across the country and that is a huge part of the problem.
And if you had "snapped" you might have been able to take out one of the kids before the adults took you out. ;D
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I believe it. I also always notice when coloreds are in the ER they have to have half their family tree in there with them. When they leave it looks like Hurricane LaToya went through there. Skittles all over the floor, empty bags of Flaming Hot Cheetos, spilled Orange Crush, McDonald's fries on the floor... just a complete mess.
Add to that list the:
....half-eaten watermelons, chewed up chicken wings from the chinese fast food place and the foodstamp cover flap (Assuming they've taken all the actual food stamps out and decided that the flap is best left on the floor)..
"1"
P.S. Oh and how many times do we not stumble upon this nifty little identification badge to only have to dread taking it to the lost and found....like scooping a shovel's worth of our tax money into the fireplace.
(http://www.mixup.org.uk/photobooth%20archive/booth%20resources/photoboothsinpop/oldirtybastard%20returntothe%2036%20chambers%20front%20cover.jpg)
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True.
But beyond that is the fact that no one in the upper-middle class or above actually WANTS people in the underclass to begin striving for a better life.
We want the underclass, we NEED the underclass, and the last thing we want is for them to begin leaving their 'hoods and trailer parks and getting advanced educations and great jobs. We want their entrepreneurship limited to street activities and not to community improvement.
Why? Because if they become competitive, then over time, that will make things more difficult for our descendants and our ability to build wealth will be diminished.
The wealthy figured out a long time ago that it was much cheaper to pay people to stay poor than to encourage them to pursue a better life.
Truth.
dude, you're a guy hater too. so is Parker and dr. cock. I don't think one of us here would call you, as in you, Trenuggs the person, a nig nog. You don't come off as one (even though you love yourself some white women).
At some point in your life, whenever that might've been and for whatever reason, you didn't want to be a homey. I bet you money that you'd get your fucking shit turned inside out in da hood.
It's so sad.
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It's like that in EVERY ER across the country and that is a huge part of the problem.
And if you had "snapped" you might have been able to take out one of the kids before the adults took you out. ;D
I did have a few "choice" words ;) but I couldn't get the full effect I was looking for because of the pain I was in :(
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Add to that list the:
....half-eaten watermelons, chewed up chicken wings from the chinese fast food place and the foodstamp cover flap (Assuming they've taken all the actual food stamps out and decided that the flap is best left on the floor)..
"1"
P.S. Oh and how many times do we not stumble upon this nifty little identification badge to only have to dread taking it to the lost and found....like scooping a shovel's worth of our tax money into the fireplace.
(http://www.mixup.org.uk/photobooth%20archive/booth%20resources/photoboothsinpop/oldirtybastard%20returntothe%2036%20chambers%20front%20cover.jpg)
No joke. When I was in college, I had a buddy who played club football, so their games were on Sundays. We went to watch him play and were sitting on the visitors side......and there was TONS of chicken bones everywhere.....we laughed about it and checked to see who the school played (it was an away game) on Saturday.......it was a "traditional black college." We laughed our asses off! hahaha
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Don't agree there. Only leftist liberals want the underclass. They never encourage the underclass to work hard or better themselves. Instead, they preach welfare and entitlement, which only further discourages the underclass from setting goals and taking action.The whole concept of America..originally..not what it is now..is that in this country you actually have the opportunity to better yourself..Which was proved by the turn of the century immigrants, who worked hard and made a life for themselves. Compare the Italian, German and Irish immigrants with the lowlife, parasitic third world illegals that proliferate here today.
Wow. That explains all the minority-based educational scholarships the GOP rails against the Dems for being in favour of. ;)
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Their answer is always the same... "dass aight I culd wait."
Fucking Chinese!
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I also notice that when there is a black patient he/she will have their cell phone's charging in the hospital's outlets and so will the 3-6 family members cramed into the room. Every outlet. A cell phone charging.
We'll bring a black patient (usually in the 18-40 age group) a tray in. Hospital food. Salisbury steak. Mashed potatoes. Broccoli. Milk. Graham crackers. They open it and go... "I aint want dis... ya'll got any chicken or cornbread up in hurr? "
I'll say something like. "Ummm... no, but we do have sushi if you want some sushi."
They grimmace and go... " Naaa... I aint never had dat it don' sound gooooood. Ya'll got fish? "
I say... "What kind of fish? Orange Roughy? Grilled Salmon? I think we do... I have to check. What kind would you like? "
I get... "Ya'll got catfish?"
If I am lying then I am dying!
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Wow. That explains all the minority-based educational scholarships the GOP rails against the Dems for being in favour of. ;)
While they continually dumb down standards and fight "culturally biased" testing.
;)
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We'll bring a black patient (usually in the 18-40 age group) a tray in. Hospital food. Salisbury steak. Mashed potatoes. Broccoli. Milk. Graham crackers. They open it and go... "I aint want dis... ya'll got any chicken or cornbread up in hurr? "
hahaha, ROFL....
I brought up in another thread that it's funny that none of these types have money to pay for health insurance.....but EVERY one of them has a cell phone and is constantly on it or texting.
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but EVERY one of them has a cell phone and is constantly on it or texting.
I'm guessing those are some really, really hard-to-read texts.
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While they continually dumb down standards and fight "culturally biased" testing.
;)
Double whammy. ;D
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I also notice that when there is a black patient he/she will have their cell phone's charging in the hospital's outlets and so will the 3-6 family members cramed into the room. Every outlet. A cell phone charging.
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That is too funny. Sad. But funny. ;D
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hahaha, ROFL....
I brought up in another thread that it's funny that none of these types have money to pay for health insurance.....but EVERY one of them has a cell phone and is constantly on it or texting.
It's true. In the hospital they charge their cell phones and use the hospital-house phones and make TONS of calls. I see them scroll through their cell phone's, come across a number and use our phone to make the call. It's one of the first thing they request besides food. The phone. "Ya'll got a phone up in hurr I cuul use? "
It's easy to listen in on conversations when you are sitting outside the room charting. It's always just day to day bullshit talk. NEVER anything serious or buisness like.
When they get their discharge papers they always ask the nurse or doctor... "Dasss it? I gotta go now? " "Huh? " "Could I make one mo' phone call befo I go? " On the way out they may stop by the Clerk's desk and get ONE MORE call in. "Could I use dis phone?"
Then they have to use the "baffroom". Then finally they ask for a sandwich or a juice on the way out.
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It's not just blacks. It's people with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness.
Exactly!
99,99% of these people "with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness" just happen to be blacks or hispanics.
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It's true. In the hospital they charge their cell phones and use the hospital-house phones and make TONS of calls. I see them scroll through their cell phone's, come across a number and use our phone to make the call. It's one of the first thing they request besides food. The phone. "Ya'll got a phone up in hurr I cuul use? "
It's easy to listen in on conversations when you are sitting outside the room charting. It's always just day to day bullshit talk. NEVER anything serious or buisness like.
When they get their discharge papers they always ask the nurse or doctor... "Dasss it? I gotta go now? " "Huh? " "Could I make one mo' phone call befo I go? " On the way out they may stop by the Clerk's desk and get ONE MORE call in. "Could I use dis phone?"
Then they have to use the "baffroom". Then finally they ask for a sandwich or a juice on the way out.
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At least they're not acting white.
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99,99% of these people "with a poor upbringing perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and hopelessness" just happen to be blacks or hispanics.
Nothing "just happens." This type of apologist enabling guarantees it will FOREVER just happen.
EDIT: Sarcasm? Sorry.
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Block, when you ask them where they live or their address.....do they ALWAYS say....."I stay over at.......?"
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Nothing "just happens." This type of apologist enabling guarantees it will FOREVER just happen.
are you saying we should say most blacks and hispanics act the way they do cause they are still closer to animals in term of intelligence than white or asian people are? Are you impying they might be genetically underdevelopped intellectually compared to white or asian people ?
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are you saying we should say most blacks and hispanics act the way they do cause they are still closer to animals in term of intelligence than white or asian people are? Are you impying they might me underdevelopped intellectually?
That would be racist.
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This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America-in large, bold letters. This was a letter to the editor August 29th in a Jackson, MS newspaper.
Dear sirs:
During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple, elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone.
Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status:
Medicaid.
She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care.
Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses.
It is a crisis of culture.
A culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance.
A culture that thinks, "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me."
Life is really not that hard. Most os us reap what we sow. Don't you agree?
Dr. Starner Jones, MD
Jackson, MS
And what about the doctor? How is the doc's health? Doctors are notorious for telling others to be in shape, yet they are in terrible physical condition. One time I went to the doctor and he told me that I was obese at 5'5 and 168, yet I had a 6 pack, got up @5am every morning to run, he had more than a Goodyear spare tire, and he smoked.
Plus this doctor, working in the er didn't say what shift they work, and chances are doesn't get to eat a quality meal, just something on the run, which could mean junkfood.
Also, that doc works in Miss, a state that is the poorest in the US, and yes has a lot of black folk. Miss, never recovered from the Civil War. If that doc were to have worked in some parts of the Midwest and south, the doc would say the same thing about rednecks and poor whites, who'd rather spend money on a gun rack and camo and cigarettes and get drunk and beat up their girlfriends while living with her in a trailerpark and not paying rent
have alot of the same here in Maryland.
No lie, I had a woman come in and want file a retraining order against a 6 yr old, the 6 yr old hit her 6 yer old son. She was told she couldn't, she what about the parents they do drugs all the time in their trailer. She was told she couldn't file for that, but call child protective services. She was also told that little boys fight, and that's what her son needs to learn, to defend himself. Guess what she told that child in front of my face? She told him,
"If he comes at you again, I want you to get a brick, no go to the kitchen and get a knife, and stab him!"
I yelled at her for telling her 6 yr old to stab another 6 yr old, and kicked her out.
Lax, was this one of your esteemed relatives?
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Block, when you ask them where they live or their address.....do they ALWAYS say....."I stay over at.......?"
HAHAHAHAHA! YES! None of them have real residences. It's always...
Block: Shaniqua. I need some basic info to punch into our system... what's your address, again?
Shaniqua: I stay up over on 73rd.
Block: Okay. 73rd...... and..... what's the address?
Shaniqua: 73rd just past King Drive like up over by Edwards Park.
Block: Okay. What's the address?
Shaniqua: You kno what? I don't even kno. Let me call my play cousin Shiranda. I stay wit her. You need like the numbers on da house or something?
Block: Just the address.
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HAHAHAHAHA! YES! None of them have real residences. It's always...
Block: Shaniqua. I need some basic info to punch into our system... what's your address, again?
Shaniqua: I stay up over on 73rd.
Block: Okay. 73rd...... and..... what's the address?
Shaniqua: 73rd just past King Drive like up over by Edwards Park.
Block: Okay. What's the address?
Shaniqua: You kno what? I don't even kno. Let me call my play cousin Shiranda. I stay wit her. You need like the numbers on da house or something?
Block: Just the address.
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rofl man you re on a roll...
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This is the funniest thread on getbig in months ;D
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This is the funniest Truest thread on getbig in months ;D
Exactly
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And what about the doctor? How is the doc's health? Doctors are notorious for telling others to be in shape, yet they are in terrible physical condition. One time I went to the doctor and he told me that I was obese at 5'5 and 168, yet I had a 6 pack, got up @5am every morning to run, he had more than a Goodyear spare tire, and he smoked.
Plus this doctor, working in the er didn't say what shift they work, and chances are doesn't get to eat a quality meal, just something on the run, which could mean junkfood.
Also, that doc works in Miss, a state that is the poorest in the US, and yes has a lot of black folk. Miss, never recovered from the Civil War. If that doc were to have worked in some parts of the Midwest and south, the doc would say the same thing about rednecks and poor whites, who'd rather spend money on a gun rack and camo and cigarettes and get drunk and beat up their girlfriends while living with her in a trailerpark and not paying rent
have alot of the same here in Maryland.
No lie, I had a woman come in and want file a retraining order against a 6 yr old, the 6 yr old hit her 6 yer old son. She was told she couldn't, she what about the parents they do drugs all the time in their trailer. She was told she couldn't file for that, but call child protective services. She was also told that little boys fight, and that's what her son needs to learn, to defend himself. Guess what she told that child in front of my face? She told him,
"If he comes at you again, I want you to get a brick, no go to the kitchen and get a knife, and stab him!"
I yelled at her for telling her 6 yr old to stab another 6 yr old, and kicked her out.
Lax, was this one of your esteemed relatives?
You are a Racist and you are clutching at straws
Africans almost ruin every fucking country they move to,they are a social and economic burden on every state they set foot in
Its a fact and you cannot argue with it
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Its sad that people died in wars to protect a way of life, that is now being abused by bleeding hearts the political world over, there are no more strong leaders, we all pay higher taxes to support filth the world over, its unsustainable in the longterm. Comes back to democracy and capitalism, two ways of life that will eventually bring about our downfall.
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sorry moose jay, there is no board certified physican in that Mississippi town using that name.
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You are a Racist and you are clutching at straws
Africans almost ruin every fucking country they move to,they are a social and economic burden on every state they set foot in
Its a fact and you cannot argue with it
How am I a racist? I only pointed out that any poor class can do it. It has been said the irish so the same to other countries, and Russians as well. And many of the Africans I come in contact with are smart as hell and have a shit load of degrees and work for the federal government or in academia. Toxie can tell you of the African dude that he worked for that was at NASA. You will always have people who try and work the system, you have Chavs in the UK as well. Speak on them, my bad, they are white, so they get a pass from you.
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How am I a racist? I only pointed out that any poor class can do it. It has been said the irish so the same to other countries, and Russians as well. And many of the Africans I come in contact with are smart as hell and have a shit load of degrees and work for the federal government or in academia. Toxie can tell you of the African dude that he worked for that was at NASA. You will always have people who try and work the system, you have Chavs in the UK as well. Speak on them, my bad, they are white, so they get a pass from you.
you keep this up, i'm gonna report you to moderator.
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you keep this up, i'm gonna report you to moderator.
Ive been looking forward to what the TO board looks like. I imagine tumbeweed and shit.
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Don't agree there. Only leftist liberals want the underclass. They never encourage the underclass to work hard or better themselves. Instead, they preach welfare and entitlement, which only further discourages the underclass from setting goals and taking action.The whole concept of America..originally..not what it is now..is that in this country you actually have the opportunity to better yourself..Which was proved by the turn of the century immigrants, who worked hard and made a life for themselves. Compare the Italian, German and Irish immigrants with the lowlife, parasitic third world illegals that proliferate here today.
You're pretty intelligent, but also a victim of the propaganda game. Where I grew up, if you didn't work, you didn't eat, plain and simple.
When I was a poor, black kid, I spent significant time with several conservative leaders in my home state (NC). The outside world is told 'work hard and you'll have the opportunity to be successful', but in reality, we only want you to be middle class, nothing more. Sure, some of you are going to enjoy great success and move into the upper income brackets, but when you pour a ton of time and your life savings into a business startup that fails, our banks are going to be all-too-happy to foreclose on your American dream.
Sure, we want most of you to get jobs and pay taxes - we won't pretend that our position is safe if no middle class exists - but we control the system and can limit your ability to build wealth.
As long as we can keep you angry at 'the other guy', then you'll be less likely to see how much more you have in common with him than you do with us.
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The super-wealthy on both the left and right are charged with keeping themselves in power and they achieve the same goal through different means.
Don't believe me? Look at how much 'their savior', Obama, has done so far for the wealthy vs how much he has done for the poor. The numbers aren't even close, my friend, and if you think the poor and lower-middle classes are going to close the gap a bit during his presidency, you're mistaken.
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If 100% - over even 50% - of people in those lower classes sought to better themselves, it would eventually lead to a significant decrease in the competitive advantage our children and grandchildren, etc. would have.
I'll gladly give up 33-35% of my income in order to help maintain America's underclass. True American conservatism relies upon this.
The game we play works, because we're able to keep you and the others who think like you focused on the wrong thing.
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You're pretty intelligent, but also a victim of the propaganda game. Where I grew up, if you didn't work, you didn't eat, plain and simple.
When I was a poor, black kid, I spent significant time with several conservative leaders in my home state (NC). The outside world is told 'work hard and you'll have the opportunity to be successful', but in reality, we only want you to be middle class, nothing more. Sure, some of you are going to enjoy great success and move into the upper income brackets, but when you pour a ton of time and your life savings into a business startup that fails, our banks are going to be all-too-happy to foreclose on your American dream.
Sure, we want most of you to get jobs and pay taxes - we won't pretend that our position is safe if no middle class exists - but we control the system and can limit your ability to build wealth.
As long as we can keep you angry at 'the other guy', then you'll be less likely to see how much more you have in common with him than you do with us.
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The super-wealthy on both the left and right are charged with keeping themselves in power and they achieve the same goal through different means.
Don't believe me? Look at how much 'their savior', Obama, has done so far for the wealthy vs how much he has done for the poor. The numbers aren't even close, my friend, and if you think the poor and lower-middle classes are going to close the gap a bit during his presidency, you're mistaken.
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If 100% - over even 50% - of people in those lower classes sought to better themselves, it would eventually lead to a significant decrease in the competitive advantage our children and grandchildren, etc. would have.
I'll gladly give up 33-35% of my income in order to help maintain America's underclass. True American conservatism relies upon this.
The game we play works, because we're able to keep you and the others who think like you focused on the wrong thing.
stop it, i came all over myself.
if there was ONE black guy who'd say this shit on TV, what do you think would happen?
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stop it, i came all over myself.
if there was ONE black guy who'd say this shit on TV, what do you think would happen?
Shit, I believe it, and recognize it, and given half a chance, I would say it, just to see people's reaction. Then I would get shot.
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I hear what you are saying, but I think Tre's point is valid. The wealthy love having immigrants work for dirt cheap and that's why neither political party will do anything about the immigration problem. Lib dems want their votes and wealthy repubs want their cheap ass labor. If they can't get the immigrants, they will take the trailer trash.....sad reality.
100% correct.
The so-called 'immigration debate' is nothing but a smokescreen by both sides, as both Democrats and Republicans are trying to win Latino loyalty. Republicans know that their constituents want them to appear anti-immigrant, so they talk about walls and having token anti-Mexican laws in small towns in Texas. The Dems, on the other hand, know that they need to appear to be all about equality, so they create 'safe towns' and the like. Meanwhile, we ALL benefit from the cheap labor the immigrants provide.
Remember when the nation's biggest banks like Wells Fargo and Bank of America began giving huge mortgages to non-citizens, who only had to show proof of having paid utility bills in order to demonstrate creditworthiness? Where was the outrage from *either* side of the aisle on that?
It never came. Yet, an American citizen who's struggled 20 years to save up $10,000 for a down payment and can afford to pay a $900-1000/month mortgage - we know this, because that's what his monthly rent has been and he's always paid it on time - can't get enough of a loan to buy anything more than a double-wide and a patch of land in the country, while the non-citizens are moving wholesale into the best master-planned communities where their kids will be able to walk to school, while the poor sap's kids will have to ride the bus...a service that he has to pay extra for.
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Sure, some of you are going to enjoy great success and move into the upper income brackets, but when you pour a ton of time and your life savings into a business startup that fails, our banks are going to be all-too-happy to foreclose on your American dream.
Because the evil banks are interested in keeping them down and would never foreclose on a failed white business?
Probably explains why only blacks are losing their houses right now, the bastards!
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dude, you're a guy hater too. so is Parker and dr. cock. I don't think one of us here would call you, as in you, Trenuggs the person, a nig nog. You don't come off as one (even though you love yourself some white women).
At some point in your life, whenever that might've been and for whatever reason, you didn't want to be a homey. I bet you money that you'd get your fucking shit turned inside out in da hood.
It's so sad.
I grew up in the 'hood and yes, I grew up hating N.O.G.S. Both of my parents and both of my grandparents worked and while it may have been ok to spend time playing football and basketball with friends, I can probably count the number of hours I spent just 'hanging out' on one hand.
The truths my family shared with me certainly came to pass. I wasn't allowed to do the crap other kids did and look where most of them are now vs where I am. I do have lingering issues, but nothing that's preventing me from functioning. lol I just think about some of the stuff I went through and think about how unnecessary it was. I could crack jokes on anyone, though (I dominated throughout the years in that department), so whatever they came at me with was going to send them away deeply embarrassed, because I had the ability to go cerebral on those clowns, while still catering to the audience. I didn't have to fight a lot, but in 6th grade, I was in a fight almost every single day, often because somebody got mad after a verbal beatdown. Although the story I tell is that I 'never lost' that year, I did almost get choked out once by a kid who had a beef with me. Instead of confronting me like a man, though, he chose to jump on my back after I'd been tackled during a football game. That was a total bitch move, so I don't count it. lol
I didn't have lots of clothes and my family wasn't into brand names. Even to this day, I am not. Although today I can afford to dress very nicely, I choose not to. As I child, I was taught: "If it's on your ass, it's not an asset." Yet, so many the free lunch kids' parents always made sure their kids wore the finest clothes other people's money could buy.
Life in the 'hood is very different today, though. Back then, even young thugs - niglets - had a general respect for a community and its elders, but those days seem long gone now. *sigh*
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Because the evil banks are interested in keeping them down and would never foreclose on a failed white business?
Probably explains why only blacks are losing their houses right now, the bastards!
I may not have made it clear in my prior post, but my statement that you referenced was about economic class, not race.
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I may not have made it clear in my prior post, but my statement that you referenced was about economic class, not race.
Still, banks are about MONEY, no? Why invest in a failed venture?
This ain't class war or commentary on the American Dream; it's simply capitalism sorting out the weak. No bank is gonna pull the plug on a successful enterprise, which undermines any keep-em-down conspiracy.
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Still, banks are about MONEY, no? Why invest in a failed venture?
This ain't class war or commentary on the American Dream; it's simply capitalism sorting out the weak. No bank is gonna pull the plug on a successful enterprise, which undermines any keep-em-down conspiracy.
Kind of ironic since the strong farked up this whole latest financial mess and had to be (again) bailed out by the weak - ie. private profit and public losses.
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Still, banks are about MONEY, no? Why invest in a failed venture?
This ain't class war or commentary on the American Dream; it's simply capitalism sorting out the weak. No bank is gonna pull the plug on a successful enterprise, which undermines any keep-em-down conspiracy.
Unfortunately, through policies like the Community Re-investment Act, banks and mortgage companies were basically forced to lend money to the absolute worst credit prospects imaginable..knowing the chance for repayment was zilch. Without trillions made in sub-prime loans, we wouldn't have had Wall street packaging this crap as investments and at least one major cause of the economic meltdown would have been averted. Amazingly, Obama wants to expand this act even further.
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Kind of ironic since the strong farked up this whole latest financial mess and had to be (again) bailed out by the weak - ie. private profit and public losses.
no, they never had to be bailed out in the first place. no one in their right mind who supports capitalism supported the bailout clusterfuck. billions of dollars later, we're worse off than we were, yet the money's gone.
the "public" was very much against bailouts , as were 99% of america's businesses who get the shaft because they're not "too big to fail".
the powers that be just signed the checks, and raised a big middle finger to the american public, very much like they're trying to do with the healthcare shit now.
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Kind of ironic since the strong farked up this whole latest financial mess and had to be (again) bailed out by the weak - ie. private profit and public losses.
Capitalism would never have approved so many ridiculously high-risk mortgages. That's government telling banks to lower their standards because "everyone deserves a home."
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Unfortunately, through policies like the Community Re-investment Act, banks and mortgage companies were basically forced to lend money to the absolute worst credit prospects imaginable..knowing the chance for repayment was zilch. Without trillions made in sub-prime loans, we wouldn't have had Wall street packaging this crap as investments and at least one major cause of the economic meltdown would have been averted. Amazingly, Obama wants to expand this act even further.
You only got a part of that story right.
A ton of foreign money got dumped into the U.S. housing market (don't ask me for exact figures), which helped to artificially inflate home prices in certain areas. This was aided by the devaluation of the dollar vs foreign currencies.
Lenders weren't forced to make bad loans, but *chose* to because, in the end, they were going to end up with any amount of cash paid in, PLUS the properties themselves. Realtors, mortgage brokers, banks, and even appraisers were all in on it.
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Unfortunately, through policies like the Community Re-investment Act
Yes. Very anti-capitalism, I'd say.
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You only got a part of that story right.
A ton of foreign money got dumped into the U.S. housing market (don't ask me for exact figures), which helped to artificially inflate home prices in certain areas. This was aided by the devaluation of the dollar vs foreign currencies.
Lenders weren't forced to make bad loans, but *chose* to because, in the end, they were going to end up with any amount of cash paid in, PLUS the properties themselves. Realtors, mortgage brokers, banks, and even appraisers were all in on it.
i don't know about this man, sounds like something sevastase would post.
what i do remember however is people buying houses and re-selling them before they even closed on them for 50k more! everyone was panic buying for a long time, as if the houses were somehow going to go out of style. shit, i remember in 2003, i was out of college for a month, and bought a condo. no, i didn't have a job yet and i lived with my parents and i was preapproved for 100% financing. i sold it two mortgage payments later (that i took a cash advance from a credit card on) and made 23k.
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no, they never had to be bailed out in the first place. no one in their right mind who supports capitalism supported the bailout clusterfuck. billions of dollars later, we're worse off than we were, yet the money's gone.
the "public" was very much against bailouts , as were 99% of america's businesses who get the shaft because they're not "too big to fail".
the powers that be just signed the checks, and raised a big middle finger to the american public, very much like they're trying to do with the healthcare shit now.
99% correct.
Those of us who have solid incomes and even those who've lost their jobs all opposed the corporate bailouts given to the super-wealthy by both the Cheney and Obama Administrations.
There is an argument for sustaining Detroit (no one wants to see entire regions 'die'), however 'we the people' need to take control and not allow them to continue with things like their stupid job banks, etc.
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i don't know about this man, sounds like something sevastase would post.
what i do remember however is people buying houses and re-selling them before they even closed on them for 50k more! everyone was panic buying for a long time, as if the houses were somehow going to go out of style. shit, i remember in 2003, i was out of college for a month, and bought a condo. no, i didn't have a job yet and i lived with my parents and i was preapproved for 100% financing. i sold it two mortgage payments later (that i took a cash advance from a credit card on) and made 23k.
Outstanding investment for you :), but the lenders that provided 100% financing around the country did so knowing that it was an extremely profitable venture. Sure, we've lost some small banks as a result, but everyone else was 'too big to fail', even a foreclosure factory like Countrywide. ;)
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Capitalism would never have approved so many ridiculously high-risk mortgages. That's government telling banks to lower their standards because "everyone deserves a home."
You might be surprised what 'capitalism' would be willing to do if there was a glint of profit in it. But I think you know this. Unvarnished capitalism like that objectivism shit Ayn Rand used to spew doesn't work in the real world.
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Its sad that people died in wars to protect a way of life, that is now being abused by bleeding hearts the political world over, there are no more strong leaders, we all pay higher taxes to support filth the world over, its unsustainable in the longterm. Comes back to democracy and capitalism, two ways of life that will eventually bring about our downfall.
so true. generations of ireplacable men of valor butchered just for this shit we see today? irony.
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i don't know about this man, sounds like something sevastase would post.
what i do remember however is people buying houses and re-selling them before they even closed on them for 50k more! everyone was panic buying for a long time, as if the houses were somehow going to go out of style. shit, i remember in 2003, i was out of college for a month, and bought a condo. no, i didn't have a job yet and i lived with my parents and i was preapproved for 100% financing. i sold it two mortgage payments later (that i took a cash advance from a credit card on) and made 23k.
I was in the same position after college, yet I just couldnt get my head around the fact that with almost Zero income on the books, how i could qualify for a home.. yet people all around me were.. And I see why now! Trust your gut is the moral i guess.
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100% correct.
The so-called 'immigration debate' is nothing but a smokescreen by both sides, as both Democrats and Republicans are trying to win Latino loyalty. Republicans know that their constituents want them to appear anti-immigrant, so they talk about walls and having token anti-Mexican laws in small towns in Texas. The Dems, on the other hand, know that they need to appear to be all about equality, so they create 'safe towns' and the like. Meanwhile, we ALL benefit from the cheap labor the immigrants provide.
Remember when the nation's biggest banks like Wells Fargo and Bank of America began giving huge mortgages to non-citizens, who only had to show proof of having paid utility bills in order to demonstrate creditworthiness? Where was the outrage from *either* side of the aisle on that?
It never came. Yet, an American citizen who's struggled 20 years to save up $10,000 for a down payment and can afford to pay a $900-1000/month mortgage - we know this, because that's what his monthly rent has been and he's always paid it on time - can't get enough of a loan to buy anything more than a double-wide and a patch of land in the country, while the non-citizens are moving wholesale into the best master-planned communities where their kids will be able to walk to school, while the poor sap's kids will have to ride the bus...a service that he has to pay extra for.
money , pyramidal society...same old story.
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You might be surprised what 'capitalism' would be willing to do if there was a glint of profit in it. But I think you know this. Unvarnished capitalism like that objectivism shit Ayn Rand used to spew doesn't work in the real world.
Sorta my point, though: No profit in this case.
I can't argue Ayn Rand to any degree, but I would much rather fail under capitalism than anything else.
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Capitalism would never have approved so many ridiculously high-risk mortgages. That's government telling banks to lower their standards because "everyone deserves a home."
Don't act like the government is working for this 'everyone' you speak of.
They're the same group of people who - in the blink of an eye - also allowed those banks to increase maximum credit card interest rates to usurious levels and to collect unconscionable fees for overdrafts, over-limit transactions, late payments, etc. while ensuring that the credit card companies had unchecked latitude for deciding when to raise a person's rate or to lower his credit limit. It was legal for the bank to lower a person's credit card limit and to tag him with over-the-limit fees for as long as the balance was over the new limit, even though he'd been under the limit when the purchases were made.
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Don't act like the government is working for this 'everyone' you speak of.
How did you get that from my post?
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I don't see this as a race issue at all.
Every weekend I talk to a lot of trashy people who sit on barstools drinking and smoking all night, many of whom complain about not having health insurance. I've been buying my own for years, even as the price steadily goes up. I would rather pay that, than my cell phone bill. I'm pretty flippant about paying bills, doing it when I get to it - but the health insurance gets paid automatically when I get it.
I am with you on that
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And what about the doctor? How is the doc's health? Doctors are notorious for telling others to be in shape, yet they are in terrible physical condition. One time I went to the doctor and he told me that I was obese at 5'5 and 168, yet I had a 6 pack, got up @5am every morning to run, he had more than a Goodyear spare tire, and he smoked.
Plus this doctor, working in the er didn't say what shift they work, and chances are doesn't get to eat a quality meal, just something on the run, which could mean junkfood.
Also, that doc works in Miss, a state that is the poorest in the US, and yes has a lot of black folk. Miss, never recovered from the Civil War. If that doc were to have worked in some parts of the Midwest and south, the doc would say the same thing about rednecks and poor whites, who'd rather spend money on a gun rack and camo and cigarettes and get drunk and beat up their girlfriends while living with her in a trailerpark and not paying rent
have alot of the same here in Maryland.
No lie, I had a woman come in and want file a retraining order against a 6 yr old, the 6 yr old hit her 6 yer old son. She was told she couldn't, she what about the parents they do drugs all the time in their trailer. She was told she couldn't file for that, but call child protective services. She was also told that little boys fight, and that's what her son needs to learn, to defend himself. Guess what she told that child in front of my face? She told him,
"If he comes at you again, I want you to get a brick, no go to the kitchen and get a knife, and stab him!"
I yelled at her for telling her 6 yr old to stab another 6 yr old, and kicked her out.
Lax, was this one of your esteemed relatives?
No, not my relative. And your post and suppositions here are pretty weak, actually. Just sayin'.
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sorry moose jay, there is no board certified physican in that Mississippi town using that name.
hell, I don't know, someone e-mailed it to me. Either way, it is resoundingly true.
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I stopped going to the doctor
Last year I went to get my bloodwork done
A consultation alone here with a doctor costs 55euros
So last time I was at doctors,a black and a polish woman were in front of me in queue
They flashed their medical card (free healthcare pass) as I paid my 55euros
Sickening
Maybe you should become a black or a polish women.
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hell, I don't know, someone e-mailed it to me. Either way, it is resoundingly true.
LOL. Crack reporting, Woodward. ;D
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I love it how so many morons will blame the blacks and we are 12% of the population in the states and not every black is hurting A guess would be half. So 6% of the people are causing all these problems or 6% of 300mil. No. As MattC loves to say, the numbers don't add up...Let me guess? You want to throw in the Mexicans also? Oh brother...Like many have said it's not mainly a race problem although I will say it contributes to a degree.
BTW health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. So you facking imps that feel you can make a dollar of everything can go fack yourselves...
Just look where we rank in health care and that will show you how great we're doing since we always pride ourselves in being the facking best at everything. France is #1 in health care. Perhaps we can buy a clue...When you have people of the middleclass that are one surgery aways from being bankrupt. this is a problem...
FUCK YOU ALL and I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON BLACK COCKS, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY BANKRUPT YOU FROM THE JIZZ THE MUST PUMP FROM YOUR GUTS...
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No, not my relative. And your post and suppositions here are pretty weak, actually. Just sayin'.
Actually, no they don't . The posts made by Tre, The Ugly, ManBearPig, Dr. Chimps, all have quite the redeaming value than anything you have posted, especially since it is a email and come to find out that person doesn't exist. You are like the people who send money to the reps of the Nigerian National Bank, just from a email.
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FUCK YOU ALL and I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON BLACK COCKS, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY BANKRUPT YOU FROM THE JIZZ THE MUST PUMP FROM YOUR GUTS...
And that is just one Black Man's opinion meltdown. ;D
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Actually, no they don't . The posts made by Tre, The Ugly, ManBearPig, Dr. Chimps, all have quite the redeaming value than anything you have posted, especially since it is a email and come to find out that person doesn't exist. You are like the people who send money to the reps of the Nigerian National Bank, just from a email.
well, ordinarily, I afford you respect for thoughtful posts
here, you are like unto a buffoon
and I started the 'redeeming' thread
jagoff
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And that is just one Black Man's opinion meltdown. ;D
;D I had to get a meltdown in there...In all honesty, I'm educated, taken care of, intelligent, well spoken and have beautiful WHITE wife....I don't give a mutha'fuck. ;D 8)
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I love it how so many morons will blame the blacks and we are 12% of the population in the states and not every black is hurting A guess would be half. So 6% of the people are causing all these problems or 6% of 300mil. No. As MattC loves to say, the numbers don't add up...Let me guess? You want to throw in the Mexicans also? Oh brother...Like many have said it's not mainly a race problem although I will say it contributes to a degree.
BTW health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. So you facking imps that feel you can make a dollar of everything can go fack yourselves...
Just look where we rank in health care and that will show you how great we're doing since we always pride ourselves in being the facking best at everything. France is #1 in health care. Perhaps we can buy a clue...When you have people of the middleclass that are one surgery aways from being bankrupt. this is a problem...
FUCK YOU ALL and I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON BLACK COCKS, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY BANKRUPT YOU FROM THE JIZZ THE MUST PUMP FROM YOUR GUTS...
no
when I can't sleep
I don't count sheep
I count all the fucking rights people like you hide behind
NOT a right
its a priviledge
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;D I had to get a meltdown in there...In all honesty, I'm educated, taken care of, intelligent, well spoken and have beautiful WHITE wife....I don't give a mutha'fuck. ;D 8)
Sell-out..... ;D
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no
when I can't sleep
I don't count sheep
I count all the fucking rights people like you hide behind
NOT a right
its a priviledge
Hiding behind? Never understood that. How do you hide behind a right? If it's there and you can use it, that's what it's there for. So if i don't use it does that make it more honorable? ::)
People like me? You mean people that have served 10+ years in the military, with plenty of desert and overseas time? College educated? tax payer? Those kinds of people like me?
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BTW health care is a RIGHT not a privilege.
Why?
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You mean people that have served 10+ years in the military, with plenty of desert and overseas time?
Appreciate this, by the way.
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This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America-in large, bold letters. This was a letter to the editor August 29th in a Jackson, MS newspaper.
Dear sirs:
During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple, elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone.
Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status:
Medicaid.
She smoke more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day, and, somehow, still has money left over to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care.
Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses.
It is a crisis of culture.
A culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance.
A culture that thinks, "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me."
Life is really not that hard. Most os us reap what we sow. Don't you agree?
Dr. Starner Jones, MD
Jackson, MS
this unfortunately is the american way. someone has to pay down the line the saps who pay their taxes regularly and on time.
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Why?
The real question is why is it not?
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness......no mention of healthcare.
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I love it how so many morons will blame the blacks and we are 12% of the population in the states and not every black is hurting A guess would be half. So 6% of the people are causing all these problems or 6% of 300mil. No. As MattC loves to say, the numbers don't add up...Let me guess? You want to throw in the Mexicans also? Oh brother...Like many have said it's not mainly a race problem although I will say it contributes to a degree.
BTW health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. So you facking imps that feel you can make a dollar of everything can go fack yourselves...
Just look where we rank in health care and that will show you how great we're doing since we always pride ourselves in being the facking best at everything. France is #1 in health care. Perhaps we can buy a clue...When you have people of the middleclass that are one surgery aways from being bankrupt. this is a problem...
FUCK YOU ALL and I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON BLACK COCKS, GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY BANKRUPT YOU FROM THE JIZZ THE MUST PUMP FROM YOUR GUTS...
health care is not a right, where'd you get that fucking idea? seriously, i want to know why you think it's a fucking right. in america, you don't even get a right to fucking live (death penalty), much less a right to a doctor. grow up.
and yes, that 6% is bringing the country down, seeing as how they're 80% of the prison population.
if the french healthcare is so good, how come the entire world's royalty comes to America to get cured?
Besides, if the quality is of american healthcare is 1 or 300, in no way should it be mandatory for all of us to pay so the few can abuse it.
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The real question is why is it not?
Agree. It really goes to the heart of what kind of country you want it to be. Founding Fathers stuff. Not some jagoff with a balance sheet stuff.
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it's not a right because it costs money, simple answer.
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The real question is why is it not?
Next question would then be "What kind?" The absolute best, or something less stellar, like Medicare/Medicaid?
Aren't we sorta already covering that "right"?
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it's not a right because it costs money, simple answer.
It cost money cause we make it cost money. And things have value cause we put a price on it.
How about you go read why France is rnked #1 in the WORLD in health care and read about similar traits of the top 5-10.
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well, ordinarily, I afford you respect for thoughtful posts
here, you are like unto a buffoon
and I started the 'redeeming' thread
jagoff
Thanks for correcting me, but it doesn't excuse the fact that started a thread based upon a email that was from a ficticious person. It shows that you can goaded into making rash decisions w/o checking out the facts first. That right there is what a buffoon does.
Should we punish those who do not take care of their health? No health care for them. Or only minorities that resemble the caricature in the ficticious email.
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness......no mention of healthcare.
We don't mention this enough.
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Providing basic health care is the responsibility of a good society.
This doesn't mean we pay for your ER visit if you're indigent and have a runny nose, but we *do* pick up the tab if you present with signs of typhoid fever, yet have no ability to pay.
When public health is at risk, it goes without saying that no cost is too great to protect it. Now, I'm not saying that we should allow the government to spend freely without accountability, but we have a collective responsibility to keep ourselves safe, which allows us to remain healthy, happy, and productive.
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Agree. It really goes to the heart of what kind of country you want it to be. Founding Fathers stuff. Not some jagoff with a balance sheet stuff.
Exactly and cleary, currently we run an über capitalist society.
I've always asked this and have never received a coherent answer...
Me: The idea of free healthcare is wonderful but who will pay for it?
Moron: It would be great but other countries have tried and it and have failed so it's not possible...
Me: Wow, so we're not even going to try it? That's just it?
Moron: When you put it on the freemarket it makes it more competitive and the best people win and the losers fall off...
Me: What happens when there is an Oligopoly and the few rape everyone?
Moron: Well that doesn't happen and if it does you have the laws and fines blah.........
This is one reason why it should be a right...I've heard every excuse and know what the right wingers will say before they think it when it comes to healthcare...Profiting from people's health or lack thereof is disgusting. You have no good reason as to not at LEAST offering a government subsidized option. If peopleare ran out of business, then perhaps they should rethink their business plan or quit...I could go on making you look like an nimcumpoot if you want.
The profit these insurance and drug companies make is sickening...You introduce anything that tries to keep them from that and they go haywire. You have mindless drones that repeat everything they hears from Hannity, Rush and Beck without thinking for themselves fighting their fight to pad someone elses pockets...You gotta love it.
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Providing basic health care is the responsibility of a good society.
This doesn't mean we pay for your ER visit if you're indigent and have a runny nose, but we *do* pick up the tab if you present with signs of typhoid fever, yet have no ability to pay.
How are we not doing this already? No one is refused basic emergency care because they can't pay. In fact, the poorer you are, the better you're gonna make out billwise.
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Providing basic health care is the responsibility of a good society.
This doesn't mean we pay for your ER visit if you're indigent and have a runny nose, but we *do* pick up the tab if you present with signs of typhoid fever, yet have no ability to pay.
When public health is at risk, it goes without saying that no cost is too great to protect it. Now, I'm not saying that we should allow the government to spend freely without accountability, but we have a collective responsibility to keep ourselves safe, which allows us to remain healthy, happy, and productive.
Agreed, but the problem with our society, is that it is inherently unhealthy. As a matter of fact several industries survive off of our unhealthiness. Without it, there would be no Fast food chains, no junkfood, fewer people would get sick, overweight, or have cavities due to diet or meth. Then there is the tobacco industry, without a loyal customer base, where would they be, and where would the doctors be who treat the cancers. Then there is the plastics surgeons, who try and give a quick fix to clients who are mostly women, and have self esteem issues.
Everybody is making a buck off of our unhealthiness, yet people complain about us paying for those people, why don't we truly fix the problem so that we don't need to go to the doctor so much.
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Exactly and cleary, currently we run an über capitalist society.
Cool, so welfare, the DMV, and the Post Office were all a bad dream.
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... and that abysmal public school system.
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Cool, so welfare, the DMV, and the Post Office were all a bad dream.
Some capitalism is good. The direction conservatives want it is bad.
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How am I a racist? I only pointed out that any poor class can do it. It has been said the irish so the same to other countries, and Russians as well. And many of the Africans I come in contact with are smart as hell and have a shit load of degrees and work for the federal government or in academia. Toxie can tell you of the African dude that he worked for that was at NASA. You will always have people who try and work the system, you have Chavs in the UK as well. Speak on them, my bad, they are white, so they get a pass from you.
All the things that have been said about blacks in the ER is almost exactly the same as the CHAVs in England, just the dialect is different.
C - council
H - house
A - and
V - violent
That is white trash, new sneakers, nice mobiles, loads of bling, packets of fags and lagers or cider every weekend.
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It cost money cause we make it cost money. And things have value cause we put a price on it.
How about you go read why France is rnked #1 in the WORLD in health care and read about similar traits of the top 5-10.
we put a price on it because there's quality behind it.
jesus wiggs, i know you're just being a dick here, but would you go to a french doctor? i mean seriously.
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That is white trash, new sneakers, nice mobiles, loads of bling, packets of fags and lagers or cider every weekend.
Here we call them ... Well, I'll let Wiggs tell ya.
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Exactly and cleary, currently we run an über capitalist society.
I've always asked this and have never received a coherent answer...
Me: The idea of free healthcare is wonderful but who will pay for it?
Moron: It would be great but other countries have tried and it and have failed so it's not possible...
Me: Wow, so we're not even going to try it? That's just it?
Moron: When you put it on the freemarket it makes it more competitive and the best people win and the losers fall off...
Me: What happens when there is an Oligopoly and the few rape everyone?
Moron: Well that doesn't happen and if it does you have the laws and fines blah.........
This is one reason why it should be a right...I've heard every excuse and know what the right wingers will say before they think it when it comes to healthcare...Profiting from people's health or lack thereof is disgusting. You have no good reason as to not at LEAST offering a government subsidized option. If peopleare ran out of business, then perhaps they should rethink their business plan or quit...I could go on making you look like an nimcumpoot if you want.
The profit these insurance and drug companies make is sickening...You introduce anything that tries to keep them from that and they go haywire. You have mindless drones that repeat everything they hears from Hannity, Rush and Beck without thinking for themselves fighting their fight to pad someone elses pockets...You gotta love it.
do you know that the top insurance company in america this year made a 2 percent profit? yes, that's 2 PERCENT PROFIT.
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Here we call them ... Well, I'll let Wiggs tell ya.
Before I do I'm gonna need a full body and face pic of the lady...Tatyana sounds like a hot chick name so I'm switching from intellectual to horny bastard mode...
Then I'll continue.
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Tatyana sounds like a hot chick name
Name's a bit smoother than the face. But that's mean.
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health care is not a right, where'd you get that fucking idea? seriously, i want to know why you think it's a fucking right. in america, you don't even get a right to fucking live (death penalty), much less a right to a doctor. grow up.
and yes, that 6% is bringing the country down, seeing as how they're 80% of the prison population.
So wait, BearPigMan, are you insinuating that we eradicate all blacks within prison in order to cut our yearly taxes ergo providing for more disposable income in our pockets ergo leading to more prosperous families and presumably more government funding towards things of quality like that of healthcare as opposed to things that will deter future quality like that of bubba smith who's throwing up 315 pounds and making license plates to only then be released and kill his adoptive parents that have been paying for his tuition jail costs all along by way of their hard earned tax dollars?
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How are we not doing this already? No one is refused basic emergency care because they can't pay. In fact, the poorer you are, the better you're gonna make out billwise.
Right - we do it, because it's the right thing to do.
My post was in response to those arguing whether health care is a right vs privilege.
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we put a price on it because there's quality behind it.
jesus wiggs, i know you're just being a dick here, but would you go to a french doctor? i mean seriously.
I'm intrigued as to why they are number one so yes, I'd visit one...I know we all hate on the French but they're doing something right. I honestly would visit a French Doctor yes. I'd prefer American though why? Cause I'm American and that's what I'm used to. If the French really are that damn good, if they were closer I'd go to France.
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Ok its not just a black problem but you must undestand that Africans do not and cannot contribute to society
We have the same problem here with Romanians,they are scum,there is no other way of putting it,they come here to leech off us
I understand some black boys may be educated and work for a living,but not in my country
Now there are tons of native Irish losers too but fuck it,its a given we have to support them,unfortunately
But why should Europe pay for Africans to live an easier life than native citizens?
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Ok its not just a lack problem but you must undestand that Africans do not and cannot contribute to society
We have the same problem here with Romanians,they are scum,there is no other way of putting it,they come here to leech off us
I understand some black boys may be educated and work for a living,but not in my country
Now there are tons of native Irish losers too but fuck it,its a given we have to support them,unfortunately
But why should Europe pay for Africans to live an easier life than native citizens?
Exactly. People use the UK and Ireland as a hand me out then do a runner when times get bad.
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Exactly. People use the UK and Ireland as a hand me out then do a runner when times get bad.
And when has a handout ever really helped anyone.
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And when has a handout ever really helped anyone.
No African in Ireland has to worry about bills
They get free rent,subsidised electricity bills etc
Their scummy offspring will get what they want this christmas
While the Irish economy has fallen on hard times and many have lost their jobs,africans here still live like kings
We are too small a country and economy to support them
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No African in Ireland has to worry about bills
They get free rent,subsidised electricity bills etc
Their scummy offspring will get what they want this christmas
While the Irish economy has fallen on hard times and many have lost their jobs,africans here still live like kings
We are too small a country and economy to support them
As soon as you call them all on it aswell, they scream racism.
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And when has a handout ever really helped anyone.
I know of plenty of freshies who are scamming the system for all it's worth and couldn't care less. I'm talking people who have hardly been in the country a year.
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As soon as you call them all on it aswell, they scream racism.
Its not quite so bad here as it is in the UK,you can still mutter 'black' when you pass them or refuse them entry to your business on the grounds that they are freeloading Africans
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That was the most stupid thing I've ever read. To make it so absolute as there are only gold-toothed, nice sneaker-wearing, tattooed people (probably Black from the way he described it) on Medicaid taking USA's money is ludicrous.
Worse yet, where is the link to the original article? Search for his name and all that comes up are right-wing websites foaming at the mouth. What doctor would endanger his career to say something so potentially racist and inflammatory?
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Its not quite so bad here as it is in the UK,you can still mutter 'guy' when you pass them or refuse them entry to your business on the grounds that they are freeloading Africans
The biggest problem we face is all the liberal bs that people enforce. People shouldn't be treated equally, they should be treated with the contempt that they deserve. If you act like you couldn't give a shit for your fellow "countrymen" then why should people reciprocate?
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Its not quite so bad here as it is in the UK,you can still mutter 'guy' when you pass them or refuse them entry to your business on the grounds that they are freeloading Africans
sounds frightening Okami
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That was the most stupid thing I've ever read. To make it so absolute as there are only gold-toothed, nice sneaker-wearing, tattooed people (probably Black from the way he described it) on Medicaid taking USA's money is ludicrous.
Worse yet, where is the link to the original article? Search for his name and all that comes up are right-wing websites foaming at the mouth. What doctor would endanger his career to say something so potentially racist and inflammatory?
YES! exactly...
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Name's a bit smoother than the face. But that's mean.
I am highly unphotogenic.
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I am highly unphotogenic.
You're not so bad. Just being an asshole is all.
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You're not so bad. Just being an asshole is all.
Only when her penis stays pinned back.... 8)
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Ok its not just a black problem but you must undestand that Africans do not and cannot contribute to society
We have the same problem here with Romanians,they are scum,there is no other way of putting it,they come here to leech off us
I understand some black boys may be educated and work for a living,but not in my country
Now there are tons of native Irish losers too but fuck it,its a given we have to support them,unfortunately
But why should Europe pay for Africans to live an easier life than native citizens?
who cares what you think okami, not your elites that's for sure. They have a plan and they dont give a fuck about you (us). And there s nothing you can do about it. Want a better life - away from the scum- then make shitloads of money and get up in the pyramid if you can, period. Nobody s listening to you in our modern societies. Especially as they get more and more based on individualism. You re on your own.
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From possibly imaginary doctor's letter:
...It is a crisis of culture...
This phrase is quite the loaded one when read in context. Not only is he using unique and gaudy identifiers for inner-city people, he now turns it into 'a crisis of culture' (black, poor, undereducated, etc.).
It is a class thing that healthcare is centered around, not a race thing. People might do well to remember that.
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From possibly imaginary doctor's letter:
This phrase is quite the loaded one when read in context. Not only is he using unique and gaudy identifiers for inner-city people, he now turns it into 'a crisis of culture' (black, poor, undereducated, etc.).
It is a class thing that healthcare is centered around, not a race thing. People might do well to remember that.
Moose is now a miserable fear mongerer. And he knows damn well that the American health 'crisis' is not a struggle over health, but one of power and money. Has been since before Nixon first approved the HMO's. 'Course he's a DC, so he has a direct stake in such a power and money struggle. Hypocrite.
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I believe it. I also always notice when coloreds are in the ER they have to have half their family tree in there with them. When they leave it looks like Hurricane LaToya went through there. Skittles all over the floor, empty bags of Flaming Hot Cheetos, spilled Orange Crush, McDonald's fries on the floor... just a complete mess.
I can't even count how many times the black nurses or black doctor's get into arguments with patients because the patient says something along the lines of them having a profession or them not playing the 'special treatment cuz I a sista or brutha' game with them. I've hear this one female doctor who is black go off on so many black patients yelling... "That is NO EXCUSE! I was raised without a father and on welfare but I chose education and a life of productivity. I will NOT be your attending doctor anymore. I will send in another doctor. " and they storm out.
Coloreds get angry at other coloreds for getting an education and 'acting white'. The same doctor I am thinking of. She is black. I've HEARD her tell black patients... "what does FIN, mean? I'm sorry but please speak to me like an adult. I am not your 'homey' outside."
I often have to translate ebonics and street slang just like I do on Getbig.
Doctor: How long have you been feeling chest pain, maam?
Patient: I be feelin' it fo' a MINUTE.
Doctor: Just one minute? It started a minute ago when you came in?
Patient: Naaaa... fo a MINUTE!
Doctor: I'm sorry... you were triaged in 30 minutes ago. You told the triage nurse your chest pain has been present since last night. Did it go away and come back a minute ago?
Patient: Naaaa... isss been like dis fo a MINUTE.
Blockhead: Uh, Doc. She means it's been hurting her for quite some time. " a minute" means "a while".
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Im sorry but this post is brilliant.. ;D ;D
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Thanks for correcting me, but it doesn't excuse the fact that started a thread based upon a email that was from a ficticious person. It shows that you can goaded into making rash decisions w/o checking out the facts first. That right there is what a buffoon does.
Should we punish those who do not take care of their health? No health care for them. Or only minorities that resemble the caricature in the ficticious email.
it was sent to me by my financial planner- a very reputable, large firm-they are NOT buffoons
even if the article were untrue (its not), it still speaks volumes of the TRUTH, which many here avoid
Punish all who do not take care of their health-if they happen to be black, fuck 'em
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Moose is now a miserable fear mongerer. And he knows damn well that the American health 'crisis' is not a struggle over health, but one of power and money. Has been since before Nixon first approved the HMO's. 'Course he's a DC, so he has a direct stake in such a power and money struggle. Hypocrite.
I agree 100%. The only problem is, we the taxpayer have to dole up the money while losing the power to fight against it.
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it was sent to me by my financial planner- a very reputable, large firm-they are NOT buffoons
even if the article were untrue (its not), it still speaks volumes of the TRUTH, which many here avoid
Punish all who do not take care of their health-if they happen to be black, fuck 'em
No,no,after years of slavery they deserve to be freeloaders and get everything for nothing
You must know this by now
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Moose is now a miserable fear mongerer. And he knows damn well that the American health 'crisis' is not a struggle over health, but one of power and money. Has been since before Nixon first approved the HMO's. 'Course he's a DC, so he has a direct stake in such a power and money struggle. Hypocrite.
actually
I do know that there is absolutely NO 'health care crisis'
it is one of political construct
and chimp
try not to be so angry with me
be happy
you will live longer
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actually
I do know that there is absolutely NO 'health care crisis'
it is one of political construct
and chimp
try not to be so angry with me
be happy
you will live longer
Not angry, but it is getting a bit wearisome trying to balance your demagogic rants with something a bit more balanced and based in reality.
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Not angry, but it is getting a bit wearisome trying to balance your demagogic rants with something a bit more balanced and based in reality.
simple
battle your weariness but refraining from reading Lax-posts
voila
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simple
battle your weariness but refraining from reading Lax-posts
voila
Sorry. I have a horrendous conscience and just a smidgen of probity/integrity. ;)
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I agree 100%. The only problem is, we the taxpayer have to dole up the money while losing the power to fight against it.
AMEN!
Best post of the thread right there.
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Sorry. I have a horrendous conscience and just a smidgen of probity/integrity. ;)
I can help you then
I am heavy on the integrity
learn from me
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I can help you then
I am heavy on the integrity
learn from me
LOL. Posting up Glenn Beck-type blog nonsense is 'heavy on the integrity!?' You know, when a serious journalist is caught plagiarizing or making up sources they lose all credibility and are effectively considered persona non grata. There's something in that. ;)
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LOL. Posting up Glenn Beck-type blog nonsense is 'heavy on the integrity!?' You know, when a serious journalist is caught plagiarizing or making up sources they lose all credibility and are effectively considered persona non grata. There's something in that. ;)
Easy to ridicule Glen Beck, but even more amusing to watch the parade of Marxists he outs resign from the White House.
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Easy to ridicule Glen Beck, but even more amusing to watch the parade of Marxists he outs resign from the White House.
Yes, when you are a caricature, it is very easy to ridicule someone. ;D
/marxist!? did you know karl himself said he wasn't a 'marxist?' i know you guys like to lob these terms like grenades, but you really should first find out what they really mean.
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Did you know that the proposed healthcare bill increases medicaid by something like 150%?
So, the government will be giving free healthcare (on taxpayor money) to even more people.
I agree with the above poster who basically said healthcare is not a right but a good society has a responsibility in making sure they have fair and accessible healthcare system.
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It is the far left liberals who want to keep giving people free things and expanding multiple taxpayor funded entitlement programs. In general, this is the worst idea. Free handouts and entitlements have led to more lazy, demanding people who expect to be given things. It doesn't help to create hard working productive people and certainly doesn't help give them the leg up that some originally thought it would. Focused assistance is different than free handouts if done properly.
I've seen the same thing as others earlier in the post....with a large % of medicaid folks abusing the system and not at all appreciating the free care they are given. They have little money but they are often demanding and have the latest popular car, electronic gagets or shoes. The way they treat their kids, even worse. That's a breakdown in culture and ethics. By giving people everything, we help continue the breakdown.
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No,no,after years of slavery they deserve to be freeloaders and get everything for nothing
You must know this by now
That is absolutely right. These modern day slaves deserve to live a stress free life..
Restitution is what these animals deserve!
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AMEN!
Best post of the thread right there.
i love you too baby.
is there a stat out there on income vs. party affiliations?
edit: not as staggering as i thought. maybe i need to find some newer info.
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the only pattern i see, the more educated and the more money you make, the better odds of you being a republican.
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i love you too baby.
is there a stat out there on income vs. party affiliations?
edit: not as staggering as i thought. maybe i need to find some newer info.
What surprises me the most is the number of registered Republicans who do not self-identify as 'conservative'. The conservatives on welfare are one of my favorite target groups.
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What surprises me the most is the number of registered Republicans who do not self-identify as 'conservative'. The conservatives on welfare are one of my favorite target groups.
come on, that can't exist.
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come on, that can't exist.
Previously, I thought they only existed in the South, but we've got them out in California, too. I love it!
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Previously, I thought they only existed in the South, but we've got them out in California, too. I love it!
You are confusing fiscal conservatism with social conservatism.......HUGE difference, and you know that....
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To my point with handouts....it's not just the poor who become comfortable in their laziness and ethics when given handouts. The same thing happens often happens to kids of rich parents. If people don't have to work for things, they usually don't develop strong character and solid work ethic.
Stop the liberals from giving handouts...make them create opportunity.
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when the big o took over for the bushmaster, the first thing he did was save the country by throwing money willy nilly at all the problems as he saw them, talk about tunnel vision. he bailed out banks he bailed out the auto industry, a lot of this money went to give these bozo's bonuses. that's right guys that ran there businesses down the toilet gave themselves bonuses, where's the justice? where is the first thing he went after to infuse money back into the system, i'll tell you, he cut the cola{cost of living adjustments} to the elderly and cripples on social security the group he pledged to help was the first group he screwed over. who deserves the money more some old person who worked all their life and paid into the system or some overpaid fat cat who ran their business into the toilet and then took the handout and pocketed instead of pumping it back into the economy. how look before he passes legislature to start his death squads {death panel} first we had george orwell's 1984 we're their now with all the video cameras and phones out there, and soon we'll have logan's run. it's only a matter of time. repent now the end is near.
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There can be NO argument on this one.
Haven't read through all the pages, but I can just imagine all the libs on here that are TRYING to make a case on it :-\
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Haven't read through all the pages, but I can just imagine all the libs on here that are TRYING to make a case on it :-\
Hmm. Doesn't know what issue is being discussed but puts forth an opinion. Yup, that's a moron Coach. ::)
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Hmm. Doesn't know what issue is being discussed but puts forth an opinion. Yup, that's a moron Coach. ::)
Typical lib answer....I read the first post and knowing liberals I just knew they would try and make a case for it. It's not like you're not predictable or anything ::)
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Typical lib answer....I read the first post and knowing liberals I just knew they would try and make a case for it. It's not like you're not predictable or anything ::)
This is the guy that gobbles Limbaugh cock and has fallen victim to creationist indoctrination. How you are not intellectually ashamed of yourself is beyond me :-\
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You are confusing fiscal conservatism with social conservatism.......HUGE difference, and you know that....
But you would agree that most self-identifying conservatives *don't* know there's a difference, correct?
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Typical lib answer....I read the first post and knowing liberals I just knew they would try and make a case for it. It's not like you're not predictable or anything ::)
Not answering the question asked, but answering the question you wanted to be asked!? Is your IQ above body temperature, Coach. No wonder you've made a mockery of the institution of marriage.
Coach's Wife: 'Coach? Would you pick up some milk on the way home from work?'
Coach: 'Typical Lib answer. Milk is Socialist. You're so predictable.'
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Not answering the question asked, but answering the question you wanted to be asked!? Is your IQ above body temperature, Coach. No wonder you've made a mockery of the institution of marriage.
Coach's Wife: 'Coach? Would you pick up some milk on the way home from work?'
Coach: 'Typical Lib answer. Milk is Socialist. You're so predictable.'
Between you two I can't tell which one is more predictable...hahahaha
Lovemonkey - This is the guy that gobbles Limbaugh cock and has fallen victim to creationist indoctrination. How you are not intellectually ashamed of yourself is beyond me Undecided
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But you would agree that most self-identifying conservatives *don't* know there's a difference, correct?
haha, I'll give you that. Which is why I would like to see the two party system gone. Make individuals give their opinions on topics, instead of just a blanket umbrella.
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Between you two I can't tell which one is more predictable...hahahaha
Lovemonkey - This is the guy that gobbles Limbaugh cock and has fallen victim to creationist indoctrination. How you are not intellectually ashamed of yourself is beyond me Undecided
And you're VERY predictable as well, what's your point?
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And you're VERY predictable as well, what's your point?
The point is....when ever anyone disagrees with liberal point of view and backs it up with any kind of fact, the best argument is no argument.....just name calling. I'll admit I'm the same way, but just toward our current TOTALLY incompetent government.
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The American Dream................... ...
You have to be asleep to believe it!
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The American Dream................... ...
You have to be asleep to believe it!
that was fucking awesome....thanks 8)
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I just dont know wiggs I just dont know