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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
hahahahahahaha
yes you are being nieve
you cannot and will not achieve a physique like that unles you take roids.
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to achieve that parity of size and definition, you would have to be assisted with the gas
naturals, usually, have to choose between either being really ripped with some muscle or really big with some cuts
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yes totally attainable
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he wouldnt look as good if he wasnt tan ;)
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I think the arms, legs, traps and shoulders are very achiveable.
I just don't think my chest genetics are anywhere near his.
He probably is on gear.....but i do still think that look is attainable without roids
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I just don't think my chest genetics are anywhere near his.
get your BF% in the low single digits and your chest can be somewhat similar to his. Not really mass wise, but most likely aesthetics wise
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
you can't have the "tear drop"development , and have abs like he does naturally.
in other words you can have the same upper body but with skinny legs.
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Yes it can.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
If he's on something its probably not a whole lot, definitely not on year round, unless he has shit genetics. Good genetics and a good nutrition program and that is probably achievable. He's not overly conditioned like roid users either. Mediocre genetics though, probably would have to use, especially to get a chest like that.
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Yes it can.
I agree.
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Why are you afraid of juice? ???
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
no your not im bigger and more cut than that guy.. with better shape and im natural
dont let anyone put a limit on what you can do or you are defeated before you start
if you love bbing just train and enjoy your hard earned results no matter how long it takes.. im a trainer for life so whether i get bigger in a month or 2 yrs it doesnt matter because i will always be doing it
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
If by "achieve naturally" you mean get the guy to go out with you without having to pay him...the answer is maybe, depending on if this guy is twink like you too.
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no your not im bigger and more cut than that guy.. with better shape and im natural
dont let anyone put a limit on what you can do or you are defeated before you start
if you love bbing just train and enjoy your hard earned results no matter how long it takes.. im a trainer for life so whether i get bigger in a month or 2 yrs it doesnt matter because i will always be doing it
Exactly.
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no your not im bigger and more cut than that guy.. with better shape and im natural
dont let anyone put a limit on what you can do or you are defeated before you start
if you love bbing just train and enjoy your hard earned results no matter how long it takes.. im a trainer for life so whether i get bigger in a month or 2 yrs it doesnt matter because i will always be doing it
with all due respect but you have amazing BGG so all of this is very easy to say for you
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arms and shoulder are not that impressive.
but chest and quads. don't know if a natty can attain that. maybe.
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NO
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arms and shoulder are not that impressive.
but chest and quads. don't know if a natty can attain that. maybe.
Really? I think his quads are terrible.
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Yes it can.
But if I had to bet on if the guy in the pic was natural - based upon the fact he's that big and aspiring to do modeling work, i'd say he's run a cycle.
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The guy in that pic may not be natural, but that look can be achieved drug free. I've seen it on others and myself. For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.
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Really? I think his quads are terrible.
lets see yours ;D
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wish my legs looked that terrible.
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Really? I think his quads are terrible.
Hi Tom Platz.
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The guy in that pic may not be natural, but that look can be achieved drug free. I've seen it on others and myself. For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.
Layne Norton is one of the better and most serious naturals and doesn't have that good legs and chest. That should tell you something...
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The guy in that pic may not be natural, but that look can be achieved drug free. I've seen it on others and myself. For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.
Bullshit.
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Yes it can.
yes it can, if you're still in your adolescences. if you're not very muscular and already past 25, you'll need assistance.
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Bullshit.
What part is bullshit?
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If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.
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Hi Tom Platz.
Epic being impressed by soft 22 inchers ;D
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If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.
what do you look like ::)
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what do you look like ::)
Why would that matter? I didn't say I looked better, but I don't think this is at all unattainable naturally. Especially if if the guy is 25 and started training at 15 or something.
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Why would that matter? I didn't say I looked better, but I don't think this is at all unattainable naturally. Especially if if the guy is 25 and started training at 15 or something.
if you dont look that good then what the hell do you know about it ???
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YES. Absolutely attainable.
What a bunch of losers here...
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA....
i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.
epic insecurity.
for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.
just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.
reality's a bitch.
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if you dont look that good then what the hell do you know about it ???
Because i've seen plenty of naturals that have achieved a look similar to that without drugs.
I'm 5'6 and can't dunk a basketball, but that doesn't mean other guys my height can't.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA....
i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.
epic insecurity.
for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.
just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.
reality's a bitch.
you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted
(neither does kyomu but he seems to think so)
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you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted
(neither does kyoumo but he seems to think so)
listen bonerack-
unlike you who struggles to lift a fork to his mouth due to his limpish wrists, the guy pictured has great genetics, trains hard and probably know a great deal about nutrition. don't cry like a bitch because he's that much better than you.
keep walking around the gym with your buddies in your little groups of 3-4 in your board shorts and wife beaters with your hats on crooked displaying your MASSIVE 160 physiques while you stare at guys like this desperately wishing you could look like that one day, when the reality of if is you'll always be the 150 twig who's girlfriend checks out guys like that and secretly wishes she wasn't with a toothpick like you.
don't worry, 'MAXX'- your girl would fuck him in a heart beat if she had the chance, and thats where your insecurity stems from.
sorry about your luck.
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Epic being impressed by soft 22 inchers ;D
Not impressed really, Maradona had similar or bigger quads around 82 (and he wasnt in to bb)....
just read my first post in this tread and chances are u might get the idea.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA....
i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.
epic insecurity.
for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.
just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.
reality's a bitch.
How old are you ?
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If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.
Its not about limit its about convination.
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you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted
(neither does kyomu but he seems to think so)
Oh really I have already beat this pic guy in 1995
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061517_3881.jpg)
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How old are you ?
what's wrong sweetheart?
you don't quite stack up either and are hurt inside by the reality you never will?
i understand.
by the way 'you don't get teardrops or abs like that without steroids' is amongst the dumbest things i have ever read on a bodybuilding forum- and thats saying something.
nice work.
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I think he's natural and yes it is attainable.
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Is he natural? I dont know
But that physique can be attained naturally, just look at Jrod and Layne Norton. And they aint even the best naturals out there
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NO.
you will need greater than average genetics and dedication with a good metabolism
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I reckon it's natural on the basis that taking roids improves the shoulder width to a considerable size - it's one of the first things you notice on a gear user - this guy's shoulder width isn't that great. Good pecs, abs and quads though.
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Oh really I have already beat this pic guy in 1995
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061517_3881.jpg)
No you didnt ..I dont mean to put u down you look great... but your flexing he's just walking at the beach still he has the tear drop muscle in quads bigger and larger than yours plus his skin looks thinner than yours, he has small forearms but the thick vain that makes a shadow gives away the sauce presence in his physique.
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No you didnt ..I dont mean to put u down you look great... but your flexing he's just walking at the beach still he has the tear drop muscle in quads bigger and larger than yours plus his skin looks thinner than yours, he has small forearms but the thick vain that makes a shadow gives away the sauce presence in his physique.
Mmm yes. I understand you. Dont worry. I appreciate your honest opinion.
I want see him flexing.
In case, I put more of 1995.
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061526_5294.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061521_4570.jpg)
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with all due respect but you have amazing BGG so all of this is very easy to say for you
... yes genetics play a role but most guys dont give them self a chance to see what they can really do... naturally before .. the want to push all kinds of drugs into themself...
these i call summer guys or they just lift to show off..
if you truly life lifting the way how you look will be secondary to the feeling of actually lifting.
and for the record.. loads of white guys have great genetics... its just that a lot never tap into it because they are too busy looking for an easy way out and this goes across they board for all races
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
if you have good genetics absolutely you can achieve this level of muscularity naturally.
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what's wrong sweetheart?
you don't quite stack up either and are hurt inside by the reality you never will?
i understand.
by the way 'you don't get teardrops or abs like that without steroids' is amongst the dumbest things i have ever read on a bodybuilding forum- and thats saying something.
nice work.
Thank you
1-post a picture
2-proof me wrong.
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That guy is about 180lbs.....easy for a natty.
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Mmm yes. I understand you. Dont worry. I appreciate your honest opinion.
I want see him flexing.
In case, I put more of 1995.
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061526_5294.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061521_4570.jpg)
great V taper.
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I agree.
x2.
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That guy is about 180lbs.....easy for a natty.
another guru...
natty or juiced is not about how much you weigh....
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great V taper.
I think it depends on the height.
If this pic guy is a midget 171cm like me, maybe he is better than me of 1995.
But If he is taller, I dont think so.
Anyway, the dude has round muscle. His pec is thicker than me of 1995. But rest, I dont think so.
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another guru...
natty or juiced is not about how much you weigh....
bitch please....the problem is patience.....most guys don't have any......it's all about results now, now now. most have absolutely no idea what kind of natural potential they have within.....it takes longer than 2-3 years of dedicated natural training.....most don't give half that.
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bitch please....the problem is patience.....most guys don't have any......it's all about results now, now now. most have absolutely no idea what kind of natural potential they have within.....it takes longer than 2-3 years of dedicated natural training.....most don't give half that.
Right. Even Paco tell me always. "The positivity is the best anabolic steroid you get."
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Right. Even Paco tell me always. "The positivity is the best anabolic steroid you get."
kyomu, it is a bit corny, but it's also true. now I have no problem if people wanna juice, but for me I get a sense of pleasure when I naturally outlift and outsize 95% of the juiceboxes in the gyms I've trained at.
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Oh really I have already beat this pic guy in 1995
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v295/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30061517_3881.jpg)
you're the guy Milos Sarcev was making fun of aren't you?
lol
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Right. Even Paco tell me always. "The positivity is the best anabolic steroid you get."
Paco sounds like a wise man.
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you're the guy Milos Sarcev was making fun of aren't you?
lol
kyomu
are you still fat dude?
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I'm still baffled that a couple of people were impressed with his quads....
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with all due respect but you have amazing BGG so all of this is very easy to say for you
I've noticed this 'BGG' phrase a lot as of late. Not every black man has these 'BGG' you speak of.
It's consistant hard work.
That physique is extremely attainable naturally. Not sure why anyone would think it isn't.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
definitly a creatine body
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/l_1f5db4e4a51c4e6eae7b001fd347c0aed.jpg)
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What's with your obsession with creatine?
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kyomu
are you still fat dude?
Yes.I am 92kg and fat now.
See these pics.
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v287/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30031044_3425.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v315/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30072233_4494.jpg)
(http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v225/1112/17/n1324685224_9031.jpg)
But I start my diet again for this spring to be 77kg.
Hopefuly this time i can be my best shape.
Paco swears that he will quit his competition if i become worse than last spring.
But I am scare...
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What's with your obsession with creatine?
because it gives me so much energy and is vital for vegetarians especially
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kyomu, it is a bit corny, but it's also true. now I have no problem if people wanna juice, but for me I get a sense of pleasure when I naturally outlift and outsize 95% of the juiceboxes in the gyms I've trained at.
Yes. I know. Just he and I are fed up with those lazy people who are always giving their responsibility to the steroid.
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In response to the first picture, no you cannot achieve that - with steroids or without steroids.
Hope this helps.
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hahahahahahaha
yes you are being nieve
you cannot and will not achieve a physique like that unles you take roids.
Haha,
this guy is what, 200lb? Jesus, to me he looks like the top end of natural attainability. I have a mate who looks pretty much the same, look at the arms, not that massive at all, just great shape everywhere.
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because it gives me so much energy and is vital for vegetarians especially
Do you live on whey and eggs?
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less than 15% can achieve that naturally.
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The chest gives away that the guy is using somthing, but every other bodypart is easily attainable.
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less than 15% can achieve that naturally.
I put more than 60% in stead of 15%.
How many of you guys are training as if your mom or dad or your sons are kidnapped?
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No you didnt ..I dont mean to put u down you look great... but your flexing he's just walking at the beach still he has the tear drop muscle in quads bigger and larger than yours plus his skin looks thinner than yours, he has small forearms but the thick vain that makes a shadow gives away the sauce presence in his physique.
Kyomu owns that guy.
The guy may have looked like he was walking on a beach but since it was probably some photoshoot he was tensing every muscle in his body.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
I remember a few months back when someone here saw this pic and said Alfonso Rio wasn't on (much) gear. ::)
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Do you live on whey and eggs?
quit eating eggs cause i think they cause zits, i dont like whey but still manage 1 scoop a day or 1 scoop of rice protien
the bulk of my protien is from the beans i eat and 1 or 2 snickers marathon bars that have 20 grams of protien from soy and whey
i really dont feel the benefit from high protien but i feel a benefit from higher carbs
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I just have to say Kyomu looks more like a bodybuilder than this guy. Just my opinion.
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I remember a few months back when someone here saw this pic and said Alfonso Rio wasn't on (much) gear). ::)
And let's not forget the tool that thought he could look like Pavol...
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I remember a few months back when someone here saw this pic and said Alfonso Rio wasn't on (much) gear). ::)
Hahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahah! Yeah That was a biggest joke in here.
I met this guy directly in his off season. He was the biggest pro i have ever seen in my life!
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I just have to say Kyomu looks more like a bodybuilder than this guy. Just my opinion.
Is that a good thing?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.
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And let's not forget the tool that thought he could look like Pavol...
HA HA HA Thanks for reminding me! Priceless! That episode of denial should go down in a getbig Hall of Fame! People here are so deluded! :-[
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Is that a good thing?
Fact: this guy gets 10000 times more girls than kyo
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Is that a good thing?
Not necessarily. But in a bodybuilding competition I couldn't see this guy beating 1995 kyomu is all i'm saying.
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Not necessarily. But in a bodybuilding competition I couldn't see this guy beating 1995 kyomu is all i'm saying.
Whatabout beating him afterwards in the parking lot?
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I can get this look naturally or without much gear, right? :D
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Fact: this guy gets 10000 times more girls than kyo
Hahahahahahah. Yeah.But I dont know if 10000times.
But I used to be a stud too. ;D
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I can get this look naturally or without much gear, right? :D
Hahahahhahahhahahahha! ;D
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I remember a few months back when someone here saw this pic and said Alfonso Rio wasn't on (much) gear). ::)
In honesty i said i wanted to look something similar to that naturally.
Not that size but a rugged strong looking physique.
In hindsight i was hwat you call "deluded"
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Hahahahahahah. Yeah.But I dont know if 10000times.
But I used to be a stud too. ;D
I'm just saying, that his body type is more desireable to women lol
Fact: women are disgusted by bodybuilders :D
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some delusional people on here that's all i have to say..
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I'm just saying, that his body type is more desireable to women lol
Fact: women are disgusted by bodybuilders :D
Hey maybe this guy is way more handsome than me due to this modeling pic.
And Yes. Bodybuilding=mutation for me. Training for women are old days gone...
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some delusional people on here that's all i have to say..
Exactly.
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bitch please....the problem is patience.....most guys don't have any......it's all about results now, now now. most have absolutely no idea what kind of natural potential they have within.....it takes longer than 2-3 years of dedicated natural training.....most don't give half that.
Maybe there are some trainning drug free since before you were born..who knows
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.
But I bet you havent yet.
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I just have to say Kyomu looks more like a bodybuilder than this guy. Just my opinion.
True, but he also looks more "drug free" If u know what I mean.
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I ensure you guys that this is archienable.
But, I may bet my money to his using gear. Cus I know tons of this type of model who do the gear. Pathetic they are....
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But I bet you havent yet.
I have only been lifting for like 10 months, so no
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I ensure you guys that this is archienable.
But, I may bet my money to his using gear. Cus I know tons of this type of model who do the gear. Pathetic they are....
Yeah alot of these types hit the sauce as soon as they start training.
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In honesty i said i wanted to look something similar to that naturally.
Not that size but a rugged strong looking physique.
In hindsight i was hwat you call "deluded"
There is nothing natural about Rio's physique so you could never look like that naturally. But I give you credit for admitting you were the one who said that silly thing and congratulate you for admitting that you were hopelessly deluded. Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery. ;)
Good physique? Hell yes!
Natural? Hell no!
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you guys don't believe these guys are natural either
if you think that guy is on roids lol
this to me is achievable 8)
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Yeah alot of these types hit the sauce as soon as they start training.
We(Paco,me and fellow competitors) are really fed up with these guys.
They are all modeling or gogo dancer or bartender and walk up to us and always talk about the gear. We hate them.
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I have only been lifting for like 10 months, so no
Good luck,
I've been around this activity for decades.
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There is nothing natural about Rio's physique so you could never look like that naturally. But I give you credit for admitting you were the one who said that silly thing and congratulate you for admitting that you were hopelessly deluded. Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery. ;)
Good physique? Hell yes!
Natural? Hell no!
Awesome physique what i meant was hat naturally i wanna look as big as a house with that thick look.
I never thought he was on a 'little gear' etc
Great pic of that guy.
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There is nothing natural about Rio's physique so you could never look like that naturally. But I give you credit for admitting you were the one who said that silly thing and congratulate you for admitting that you were hopelessly deluded. Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery. ;)
Good physique? Hell yes!
Natural? Hell no!
hahahahaha Since most of pros are half of this monster. What do you say.
Oh wait, you can have genetic like this. Myostein defeciency.
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We(Paco,me and fellow competitors) are really fed up with these guys.
They are all modeling or gogo dancer or bartender and walk up to us and always talk about the gear. We hate them.
Yeah they usually train like pussies too.
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Good luck,
I've been around this activity for decades.
U have been lifting for years.....and still think this guy has great quads?
U must have horrible leg genetics
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U have been lifting for years.....and still think this guy has great quads?
U must have horrible leg genetics
lets see your legs quadzilla
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Awesome physique what i meant was hat naturally i wanna look as big as a house with that thick look.
I never thought he was on a 'little gear' etc
Great pic of that guy.
You are not alone. Everyone wants that look. But no one has it naturally--that's precisely the point! ;)
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you guys don't believe these guys are natural either
if you think that guy is on roids lol
this to me is achievable 8)
It's not, not for you, not even with steroids.
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lets see your legs quadzilla
LOL,
I am not saying i have great quads at all,
But this guy was sayin those quads didn't look naturally achievable....
He said he has bin working out for decades....something doesn;t add up
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It's not, not for you, not even with steroids.
here comes the f@ggot with 35,000 posts who has never posted a picture
telling me what I can't achieve
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here comes the f@ggot with 35,000 posts who has never posted a picture
telling me what I can't achieve
How long do you reckon it will take for you achieve that look?
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How long do you reckon it will take for you achieve that look?
I will surpass it in 2 years maximum
surpass it
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I will surpass it in 2 years maximum
surpass it
That's quite a bald statement, worthy of it's own thread even.
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I will surpass it in 2 years maximum
surpass it
LOL. I'll try to remember to bump this thread in two years :D
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I will surpass it in 2 years maximum
surpass it
Com on! AXA! ;D
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I will surpass it in 2 years maximum
surpass it
AXA stop being a tit please.
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That's quite a bald statement, worthy of it's own thread even.
bald?
you mean bold? ;D
I will surpass it in 2 years, I promise, you'll see
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I said I will surpass this in 2 years not Jeff Willet you fucking idiot Bluto
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
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I said I will surpass this in 2 years not Jeff Willet you fucking idiot Bluto
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
No you didn't, not that it matters. You won't achieve that either.
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I said I will surpass this in 2 years not Jeff Willet you fucking idiot Bluto
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
you wont.
hope this helps.
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I said I will surpass this in 2 years not Jeff Willet you fucking idiot Bluto
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
I think u can
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But the matter is, you will or you wont.
Not you can or you cant.
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I hope AXA does achieve it. Good luck on your goal AXA.
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But the matter is, you will or you wont.
Not you can or you cant.
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"Do or do not. There is no try."
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why did you delete your picture?
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why did you delete your picture?
Because I was just showing AXA what I did in 2 years.
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Yes it can.
you take roids even in your younger years when you looked amazing you still were only roughly on par with that beach physique.
and you are supposed to know what your talking about. ???
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you guys don't believe these guys are natural either
if you think that guy is on roids lol
this to me is achievable 8)
yes they are naturals ::)
naturals who put drug users from the 0's and 70's to shame ::)
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No,you aren't naive
Our Mr Getbig Aquiles is way bigger and leaner then this guy and he is all natural Mindspin confirmed this via PM
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GH15 will know.
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wtf?
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U have been lifting for years.....and still think this guy has great quads?
U must have horrible leg genetics
Another genetic freak on the horrizon !
WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
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You are not alone. Everyone wants that look. But no one has it naturally--that's precisely the point! ;)
Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to do it drug free'
yip yip
WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
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For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.
This is the key. If you're a serious BB this look is quite attainable, can't believe the question's even being asked.
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Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to do it drug free'
yip yip
WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Doom agrees!
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This is the key. If you're a serious BB this look is quite attainable, can't believe the question's even being asked.
Cant believe you pic even been posted.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
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im bigger and more cut than that guy.. with better shape
lmao no your not... that dude is bigger than you and HE HAS LEGS.. ;)
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lmao no your not... that dude is bigger than you and HE HAS LEGS.. ;)
Meso's clearly bigger, looks like a BB. The other guy looks like a regular dude in good shape who lifts.
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Meso's clearly bigger, looks like a BB. The other guy looks like a regular dude in good shape who lifts.
hahah what ? no way... the dude has agreat build... your delsuional if you think he looks regular who just lifts and eats normal...the dude is obviously dedicated to eating and training (and probably hormones)...and meso aint bigger meso just gots small joints and knows how to take pictures....
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U have been lifting for years.....and still think this guy has great quads?
U must have horrible leg genetics
Wrong.
I just gave u the reason why the lad its on gas.
Mamaguevo !!!!
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hahah what ? no way... the dude has agreat build...
I'm sorry that you're having such trouble getting the motivation to work it hard enough to improve, and have shit genetics. I looked like the guy in that pic at 16, with a couple of years of lifting natural under my belt LOL
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I'm sorry that you're having such trouble getting the motivation to work it hard enough to improve, and have shit genetics. I looked like the guy in that pic at 16, with a couple of years of lifting natural under my belt LOL
fuccckkkkkk no you didnt. your delusional.
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fuccckkkkkk no you didnt. your delusional.
No room for your jealousy, just get to work and aspire to train as hard as i did. Tanning on the beach, training at home and then later with guys who places in the Universe. Deal with it, it's all true.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
very naive but more likley not naive but just a begginer in the industry of bodybuilding,, the fella in the pictures is what we call a gym rat,,someone with long time cycling and just average response to hormones with average everything,,,10s of 1000s like them mesomorph kid is one,,,they all juiced and go from cycle to cycle ,,ofcourse this fella is 2 times the size of mesomorph due to longer femiliarity with hormones and better structure but mesomorph kid got the black in him so over all same level of development of 2 gym rats that been to cycles ,this fella in picture is what the average fella with average genetic respond to hormones look after few cycles and few years in the gym as long as they take it serious and train ...
this fella even if tried could not grow thats why the all fitness modeling thing...it is second best to a bodybuilder when it comes to what god gave you in terms of response to hormones
please avoid asking me this dumb question repetetvily in pms,,,i answer it here for all to see,,
gh15 approved
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
no u r nt coz this guy looks drug free himself.. if u have his genetics u can achieve the same level..
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This guy is without a doubt on the sauce. Sorry to break it to ya, aspiring (legit) naturals. :(
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Ohh.... what a bunch of pussys here..... :(
No wonder that the most of you guys are hardgainer...
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in the land of sensi im not joking, marihuana is not just for smoking.
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That look is absolutely achievable naturally, although not by everyone (read 'most people') and certainly not by a half assed attempt. The guy looks great cause he has small joints and full muscle bellies with good shape - probably weighs around 190.
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hahah what ? no way... the dude has agreat build... your delsuional if you think he looks regular who just lifts and eats normal...the dude is obviously dedicated to eating and training (and probably hormones)...and meso aint bigger meso just gots small joints and knows how to take pictures....
..whatever you say man
bigger arms chest delts back traps better abs
quads he might have me on ...maybe
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..whatever you say man
bigger arms chest delts back traps better abs
quads he might have me on ...maybe
8)
I'd love to see a competition featuring you, me, DavidPaul, Croatch and maybe a couple of other guys who are lifetime naturals MM - all of us in competition shape, that is. Would be a sight to see 8)
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I'd love to see a competition featuring you, me, DavidPaul, Croatch and maybe a couple of other guys who are lifetime naturals MM - all of us in competition shape, that is. Would be a sight to see 8)
Natural = 8)
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This pic appears to be taken from bb.com and if that is correct than the guy who did it was juicing like a madman as he did it in less than a year. However, I think the guy who posted it as himself just ripped it off from somewhere and used it as his own as he looked absolutely terrible 8 months or so before. I mean really terrible.
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I can get this look naturally or without much gear, right? ;D
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I can get this look naturally or without much gear, right? ;D
What does this guy have to do with the beach guy in question? Obviously you need juice to look like this guy.
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What does this guy have to do with the beach guy in question? Obviously you need juice to look like this guy.
Cus someone said this Alfonso looked natural a couple of months before.
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Cus someone said this Alfonso looked natural a couple of months before.
Thank you! Obviously, The ChemistV2 doesn't remember when that happened. That and the guy who claimed he could look like Pavol are two examples of the extremely delusional people on getbig. There really ought to be a permanent thread to document all these cases of people being so hopelessly clueless and/or out of touch with reality. :-[
Tsk tsk tsk! :'(
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Mmm yes. I understand you. Dont worry. I appreciate your honest opinion.
I want see him flexing.
In case, I put more of 1995.
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monster analog photography
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Thank you! Obviously, The ChemistV2 doesn't remember when that happened. That and the guy who claimed he could look like Pavol are two examples of the extremely delusional people on getbig. There really ought to be a permanent thread to document all these cases of people being so hopeless clueless and/or out of touch with reality. :-[
Tsk tsk tsk! :'(
Are u suggesting the threadstarter is delusional in thinking this body can be achieved naturally....???
It's not the same as posting a pro bodybuilder and asking if it would be realistic.
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probably juiced
how many people actually put in the effort to build that kind of physique naturally?
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Cus someone said this Alfonso looked natural a couple of months before.
Ok, I got it. Thanks, Kyomu.
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Are u suggesting the threadstarter is delusional in thinking this body can be achieved naturally....???
It's not the same as posting a pro bodybuilder and asking if it would be realistic.
I'm suggesting he is "probably juiced
how many people actually put in the effort to build that kind of physique naturally?"
In a world where insecure men are feeling lots of pressure to look good and steroids are a mouse click or a phone call away = 'nuff said. ::)
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That and the guy who claimed he could look like Pavol are two examples of the extremely delusional people on getbig.
even though i dont like captain equipoise i do agree with him that most people could get to pavols size (not pvaols physique, but his size )..if they eat train and use gear correctly for a couple decades.
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The chest looks a bit suspect....
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Yea he could be natural.
Has a great chest and is lean. Good quads. Other than that hardly huge at all.
Maybe 210 @ 6'
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
Yes you are.
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The guy is far from massive. He's not all that ripped either. Plenty of guys have been better than that without juicing, from Sandow to Grimek to Gironda to Bob Galluci to Dave Goodin. Many more of course.
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Yea he could be natural.
Has a great chest and is lean. Good quads. Other than that hardly huge at all.
Maybe 210 @ 6'
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Man, I'm glad someone else thinks that. Two or three guys mentioned him having good quads...WTF?
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You could look like this drug free np. I know people drug free that look better! Not as easily though!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.
only in your dreams.
and even with steroids you wouldnt look near as good.
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if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.
dude im not tryint o flame you or insult you or putyou down.. the way your thinking is perfect.. you have to KNOW you a champ and know you can do whatever you want to achieve ..if you have ANY chance of ever acheiving that...however, the reason you think that you can surpass that is because your not in reality about the way your body looks.. this is okay though as i think most natural lifters are this way as well..
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Everybody built uses steroids. Everybody.
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Yes, it can be achieved naturally. Those with great genetics can achieve it within a year of dedicated training and good eating (i.e. enough for their genetics to stimulate growth.)
For the average person, it would probably take two to three years on the same regime.
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
here's an idea, you post a pic of yourself showing why it can't be done, cause you must look quite the mess to not be able to fathom it.
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here's an idea, you post a pic of yourself showing why it can't be done, cause you must look quite the mess to not be able to fathom it.
;)
hahahaha no thought not.
i'll be waiting on that pick no one.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
i wont comment if THIS guy is on roids or what not, but a body like that can be achieved naturally...he's not jacked or big by any means, any lean surfer boy who is a dedicated bosybuilder can achieve that
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im sorry like,, but he looks a lot bigger than alot of u are making out, for a start he's walking casualy, with nothing tensed, very lean and still got a nice chunky look to him....
id love a few of you naturals to show a few pics to disproove all us gear using cynic's, cos i think most of u are full of shit!
i trained natural for years as did many i know, and hardly any had size and condition,,, you usuualy have one or the other as a natty
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
The guy only had about 23 posts or something and (like I said) they were very fishy so I don't believe it was the same guy. The guy ripped off these pics from somewhere.
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im sorry like,, but he looks a lot bigger than alot of u are making out, for a start he's walking casualy, with nothing tensed, very lean and still got a nice chunky look to him....
id love a few of you naturals to show a few pics to disproove all us gear using cynic's, cos i think most of u are full of shit!
i trained natural for years as did many i know, and hardly any had size and condition,,, you usuualy have one or the other as a natty
These were taken a few years ago. Totally drug free.
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he looks small.
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He could be on a low dosage of Anavar, 20 mg a day. He could get to this size without any test. I'm talking about the headless guy, not the chemist.
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Maybe with great genetics but I HIGHLY doubt that he is natural
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hahahahahahaha
yes you are being nieve
you cannot and will not achieve a physique like that unles you take roids.
You are.
With great genetics that is a possibility.
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With GREAT (1 in 100,000) genetics that is a possibility.
Corrected
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Corrected
Yes =).
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These were taken a few years ago. Totally drug free.
Yeah but you don't look even close to as built as this guy so you are proving nothing with your pic. Meso is the only one I seen on hear that can match this and it's well established that Meso has great genetics.
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Yeah but you don't look even close to as built as this guy so you are proving nothing with your pic. Meso is the only one I seen on hear that can match this and it's well established that Meso has great genetics.
I wasn't really trying to compare in those photos, just responding to the demand for a natural to post a pic. But in competition shape, I doubt the beach guy would beat me here.
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Yes it can.
Unless this dude is 5'2 , there is no way he is not on something for the sole reason that his legs are too big to be at that bf level naturally.
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That physique is attainable naturally.
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That physique is attainable naturally.
Exactly. In our peak shapes, Mesmorph, Alexxx, Johnny Falcon, myself, DavidPaul, Adonis, Croatch and Whatevea along with a few other naturals whom I can't recall at this moment are more muscular. Some of the guys here make that guy sound like he's Dorian Yates ::)
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Put the chemist on the beach, carb up to be out of the ripped division, take a close pic and you have the same (or even buffer) effect
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Exactly. In our peak shapes, Mesmorph, Alexxx, Johnny Falcon, myself, DavidPaul, Adonis, Croatch and Whatevea along with a few other naturals whom I can't recall at this moment are more muscular. Some of the guys here make that guy sound like he's Dorian Yates ::)
its being lean and muscular that is hard to achieve naturally
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its being lean and muscular that is hard to achieve naturally
True, and I'm not saying anyone can do it easy. Just that it's not impossible like some of the guys here are claiming. It will take someone with good genetics around 10 years worth of consistent training and a dedicated approach, but it can be done and even surpassed.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
No, but you would have to have damn good genetics to do it. He's not a big guy. There is a kid in my gym who is natural and built like that, and he's probably 185lbs at 5'8" but he has the shape and low bodyfat as the guy in the pic. I have known a few like that, but not many.
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
Diff pic but i do have some size and relative leaness
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Diff pic but i do have some size and relative leaness
You certainly do. That's a pic to be proud of, Goudy. ;)
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Cheers bud but like i said hard to tell. Ill maybe take a pic on thurs and post it to compare
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I wasn't really trying to compare in those photos, just responding to the demand for a natural to post a pic. But in competition shape, I doubt the beach guy would beat me here.
I thought you had used Winny and Primo before that pic?
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I thought you had used Winny and Primo before that pic?
Wow, you have a good memory. I did mention in a previous post that I did one cycle before a show in 1986 which was a small amount of primo and winnie. That was the last time I ever used. It was about 8 months after that last photo I posted above. Here is the pic from that. You can see my legs are quite a bit bigger.
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My old training partner was ripped to shit and he just started lifting when we met. He had a hyper fast metabolism..he already had serratus muscles and abs!! The only problem was he couldn't gain much size and lift too heavy.......I started to bury him in weights and he got discouraged and quit. :'(
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Mmm was Reading m.d today turns out michael lockett is Jamaican born went to the USA when he was 7 :)
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Mmm was Reading m.d today turns out michael lockett is Jamaican born went to the USA when he was 7 :)
I'll put it this way. He's juiced to the gills...
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could be natural .. its all about genetics .. and muscle to bone size.. people always think I weigh more than i do cause i have small bones..so my muscles look bigger than they really are/ either way lots of quality training and dieting went into it ..
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To say this physique absolutely cannot be attained naturally would be false. Now, to expound on that, maybe on out of every 1000 guys that goes to the gym can look like this naturally. On top of that it would take years of dedication and proper nutrition, and as some of the posters have already pointed out, most people dont have this. More than likely this guy is juicing, but that physique is attainable naturally with all the right things going your way....
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Wow, you have a good memory. I did mention in a previous post that I did one cycle before a show in 1986 which was a small amount of primo and winnie. That was the last time I ever used. It was about 8 months after that last photo I posted above. Here is the pic from that. You can see my legs are quite a bit bigger.
Hahahaha the old 'i did only one cycle, and it was just a little primo and winni' lol.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142;image)
if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.
hahahahahaha
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It's natural if you're short. Looks like each arm is two feet long. ;D
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::) unbelievable that people are even arguing about this.
chemist you look good in those pics, but you have been exposed as a liar and a drug user :-\ also the guy on the beach is bigger than you.
goudy, you are a beast but the guy is also bigger than you muscle wise.
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Did chemist claim to be drug free?
Looking good in 86 pic btw.
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::) unbelievable that people are even arguing about this.
chemist you look good in those pics, but you have been exposed as a liar and a drug user :-\ also the guy on the beach is bigger than you.
goudy, you are a beast but the guy is also bigger than you muscle wise.
Where have I been exposed as a liar? I've posted on here many times and have always said I did one small cycle before the 1986 Mr. west Palm. Any pictures before that show and the one's 10 years later, and the one from 3 weeks ago show me with no steroids. Not bragging because it's no big deal, but I don't lie about it and frankly..couldn't care less if anyone believes me or not. I posted the pic of me on the cycle and it's obvious I'm bigger there than in any of the other photos of myself.
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Chemist, where is the pic from 3 weeks ago?
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Chemist, where is the pic from 3 weeks ago?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248796.0
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
I personally believe the aesthetics and better condition can be had, but I myself have never been that big. At the same height I'd guess that guy has about 20 pounds on me at 5'10. I've posted pics of myself enough and they can be found in the GB3 thread.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248796.0
big dude, all the way big dude...you look amazing for 46, i'd be happy to look like that right now...
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Another reason I would never use drugs all your hard work will be regarded as purely drugs
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big dude, all the way big dude...you look amazing for 46, i'd be happy to look like that right now...
Thanks..just need to lose some fat and I'll be happy.
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Another reason I would never use drugs all your hard work will be regarded as purely drugs
You have some real size on you. Very impressive.
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It is absolutely amazing to me what this board thinks cant be accomplished without drugs......why the heck even lift then if weight training and diet does virtually nothing?
That physique presented can be attained AND SURPASSED by a great many people naturally.... you just have to have some genetics on your side. Here is a lifetime natural kid of 21-22 that I train...and these are competitive pics where he is depleted....a week or two later after he fills back out...at the same bodyfat percentage as the guy on the beach he is going to look so much bigger and fuller.
Someone do a google search for "Marky Mark" (Mark Wahlberg) and post up his pictures back then....its the same darn physique of the guy on the beach....what has Marky Mark been jacking the sauce the last 20 years? He still has the same build.
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Another reason I would never use drugs all your hard work will be regarded as purely drugs
true, its great when you dont train or eat that much you will still hold the size.
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That physique is attainable naturally.
Wrong amigo.....
people get confused around here
Its not about size, no about condition either , its all about his "skin" ...it has that "shine" look only steroids can give u.
Thats how u can tell, remember the Bond new guy in his first Bond movie? same thing buddy.
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all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong ::)
does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?
Exactly, no one has come around with a similar pic...and this thread has been around for days.
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Wrong amigo.....
people get confused around here
Its not about size, no about condition either , its all about his "skin" ...it has that "shine" look only steroids can give u.
Thats how u can tell, remember the Bond new guy in his first Bond movie? same thing buddy.
the fuck are you talking about? there isn't any backyard science to this, theres only a 'few' signs that people are on gear and 'shiny skin' isnt it LOL
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It is absolutely amazing to me what this board thinks cant be accomplished without drugs......why the heck even lift then if weight training and diet does virtually nothing?
That physique presented can be attained AND SURPASSED by a great many people naturally.... you just have to have some genetics on your side. Here is a lifetime natural kid of 21-22 that I train...and these are competitive pics where he is depleted....a week or two later after he fills back out...at the same bodyfat percentage as the guy on the beach he is going to look so much bigger and fuller.
Someone do a google search for "Marky Mark" (Mark Wahlberg) and post up his pictures back then....its the same darn physique of the guy on the beach....what has Marky Mark been jacking the sauce the last 20 years? He still has the same build.
musclemania competitor?
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Another reason I would never use drugs all your hard work will be regarded as purely drugs
Sad but true.
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mesomorph, do you have a link to your pics?
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Another reason I would never use drugs all your hard work will be regarded as purely drugs
Doesn't matter, if you have any muscle at all, most of getbig that doesn't lift + the general public will still think you're on even if natural.
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the fuck are you talking about? there isn't any backyard science to this, theres only a 'few' signs that people are on gear and 'shiny skin' isnt it LOL
Post a pic with similar skin complexion as the "beach lad".
Dont have any right??
Ive been around Bodybuilding for a little while so backyard science and you can kiss my ass.
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It is absolutely amazing to me what this board thinks cant be accomplished without drugs......why the heck even lift then if weight training and diet does virtually nothing?
Because they're not serious enough to train hard for long periods of time, don't know what can be done. In effect most guys here seem as uninformed as the general public, assume it's "all drugs" even when it's clearly quite attainable.
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Post a pic with similar skin complexion as the "beach lad".
Dont have any right??
Ive been around Bodybuilding for a little while so backyard science and you can kiss my ass.
I actually agree.
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Doesn't matter, if you have any muscle at all, most of getbig that doesn't lift + the general public will still think you're on even if natural.
do you workout?
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do you workout?
duh?
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Its not about size, no about condition either , its all about his "skin" ...it has that "shine" look only steroids can give u.
"Shine" lol ok nice theory.. ::)
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duh?
I'll take that as a no
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I'll take that as a no
You strike me as extremely perceptive.
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It is absolutely amazing to me what this board thinks cant be accomplished without drugs......why the heck even lift then if weight training and diet does virtually nothing?
That physique presented can be attained AND SURPASSED by a great many people naturally.... you just have to have some genetics on your side. Here is a lifetime natural kid of 21-22 that I train...and these are competitive pics where he is depleted....a week or two later after he fills back out...at the same bodyfat percentage as the guy on the beach he is going to look so much bigger and fuller.
Someone do a google search for "Marky Mark" (Mark Wahlberg) and post up his pictures back then....its the same darn physique of the guy on the beach....what has Marky Mark been jacking the sauce the last 20 years? He still has the same build.
forget it dante-
everyone in this thread saying it isn't possible will argue what you wrote because they look so poorly they cannot possibly comprehend looking like that.
it's like this- everyone in this thread who says it is possible i would say prolly has a half- decent physique already.
those who don't think it's possible should take up something more rewarding like knitting instead of wasting their time in the gym.
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"Shine" lol ok nice theory.. ::)
yeah, but yet he cirticises other for their 'backyard science.'
ahahahahahaha
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forget it dante-
everyone in this thread saying it isn't possible will argue what you wrote because they look so poorly they cannot possibly comprehend looking like that.
it's like this- everyone in this thread who says it is possible i would say prolly has a half- decent physique already.
those who don't think it's possible should take up something more rewarding like knitting instead of wasting their time in the gym.
BINGO
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I've been on and off the gas. You can look like that natty. You may need to get on for a bit depending on how skinny you are to get there but attaining that would be easy. Trust me, i'm the biggest "natural" skeptic there is but that is easily done. His chest is genetics more than anything, arms, abs and shoulders are easy, legs are average...good diet there is all.
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the guy in the pic has full muscle density in every and each bodypart ...COLD.
there are tons of pictures of naturals on here and especially bodybuilding.com to let you know what true dedicaced naturals can achieve after decades of serious training, and none of em look like the guy in the picture cause he s on steroids. Even if it's a low dose, he 's on or was on. There s just no way in hell you can achieve such muscle tickness without being on.
Btw most models are on steroids, even if we're speaking low doses and short cycles, as it has been proven recently.
another thing is the way all muscles are well developped equally. Most real natural wight lifters cant achieve this and always have bigger and weaker bodyparts, while people on steroids seems to have all bodypart equally and symetrically developped all at once...because of the hormonal manipulation that stimulated the growth of the whole body at once.
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"Shine" lol ok nice theory.. ::)
Sorry, Maybe Shine is not the proper word (Im from very far away english its not my first language) , but youre smart enough to get my point...for example,look at the skin of a teenager in shape it has a "shine" that you just lose after 20 and thats due to hormones changes and nothing more.....
Ive seen HIV patient in their 30s that has that same "look" on skin by only Jugging and using "roids".
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I've been on and off the gas. You can look like that natty. You may need to get on for a bit depending on how skinny you are to get there but attaining that would be easy. Trust me, i'm the biggest "natural" skeptic there is but that is easily done. His chest is genetics more than anything, arms, abs and shoulders are easy, legs are average...good diet there is all.
PIC?
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yeah, but yet he cirticises other for their 'backyard science.'
ahahahahahaha
Im telling you what the picture tells me...nothing more....
Does he looks natural to you? Go ahead...
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true, its great when you dont train or eat that much you will still hold the size.
i train very hard 5 days a week
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i train very hard 5 days a week
But he's implying that as a natural, you could take a couple weeks off from training and you'd still hold the muscle. A juicer wouldn't.
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BINGO
But still no a single picture.
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oh ok... yeah.. when i take a break off say 2 weeks.. 3 weeks i dont lose anything
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pumpster and no one i'm still waiting on those pics ::)
no one here is arguing you cannot achieve that level of muscle mass naturally, but to keep it while dieting and achieving that condition no way.
disgusted who has worked with many in the bodybuilding world agrees, so does gh15.
but we are supposed to believe pumpster and no one ::)
also dante has a financial interest in making you lemmings believe this is achievable naturally as he can claim if your workouts are hard enough and you don't look like this then you're simply not taking in enough protein.
which he coincidently sells by the bucket load - literally.
i'm sure pumpster and no one are has best customers ::)
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It is absolutely amazing to me what this board thinks cant be accomplished without drugs......why the heck even lift then if weight training and diet does virtually nothing?
That physique presented can be attained AND SURPASSED by a great many people naturally.... you just have to have some genetics on your side. Here is a lifetime natural kid of 21-22 that I train...and these are competitive pics where he is depleted....a week or two later after he fills back out...at the same bodyfat percentage as the guy on the beach he is going to look so much bigger and fuller.
Someone do a google search for "Marky Mark" (Mark Wahlberg) and post up his pictures back then....its the same darn physique of the guy on the beach....what has Marky Mark been jacking the sauce the last 20 years? He still has the same build.
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that guy has taken something, his traps and shoulders are very large (typical of steroid users due to ar receptors in those sites).
also marky mark is nowhere near that guy in terms of muscle.
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Im gonna take a pic tomorro
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Im gonna take a pic tomorro
why ? you are nowhere near that guy.
you are big, but not in that guys league - if you took some dbol that would change very quickly though ;D
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I would say my arms and delts are bigger.
He is tan. i am much whiter.
He is also leaner than me with a good chest.
I will take teh photo anyway. Plus if i dont look anywhere like that you bet your ass i will blow him outta the water in a matter of time
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I would say my arms and delts are bigger.
He is tan. i am much whiter.
He is also leaner than me with a good chest.
I will take teh photo anyway. Plus if i dont look anywhere like that you bet your ass i will blow him outta the water in a matter of time
goudy do you take steroids ? will you ever?
do you drink alcohol? will you ever ?
do you smoke? Will you ever ?
do you take penicillin ?
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goudy do you take steroids ? will you ever?
do you drink alcohol? will you ever ?
do you smoke? Will you ever ?
do you take penicillin ?
I do not take steroids. I never have.
I have never smoked. I never will.
I did drink regularly before. Stopped over health issues. Had 1 pint a few weeks back. Months before last drink.
I dont take penicillin
Why do you ask?
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panda....
negative people like you slightly annoy me.. always spek for yourself... how can you speak for the entire human race you or gh15.. just reeks of jelousy because you cant achieve it doesnt mean someone else cant.. i am bigger and more cut than this guy everywhere id give him quads because his drops really low
but arms abs chest traps delts .. im bigger better shape and more cuts right now... and i can swear to God .. i have never ever taken steroids...
life lesson speak for yourself
say I CAN NOT ACHIEVE THAT NATURALLY
dont speak for the billions of men on earth...
just comes across really pathetic.. and jealous..
geez
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I do not take steroids. I never have.
I have never smoked. I never will.
I did drink regularly before. Stopped over health issues. Had 1 pint a few weeks back. Months before last drink.
I dont take penicillin
Why do you ask?
You really live life on the edge :-\
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that guy has taken something, his traps and shoulders are very large (typical of steroid users due to ar receptors in those sites).
also marky mark is nowhere near that guy in terms of muscle.
You seriously have to be the most ridiculous guy on these boards. The last time we got into an argument where you were putting out your useless drivel you have for opinions, (but for some weird reason think of them as facts) ...... you stated all these grandiose opinions of yourself....that you were 290 clean and in shape and its because you know how to train and eat and etc etc etc and I asked you to put up or shut up.
So to shut me up you put up this picture of yourself (attached)
A fat guy in a double breasted suit giving the thumbs up at a dinner table? Thats your proof of yourself?!
I was kind of stunned and thought "whoa maybe this guy has some mental issues or is slightly retarded in some way".....and I seriously felt bad about the whole thing and just excused myself from the argument.....but now Im just coming around to think.....you are just one more guy who likes to get on the grandstand and hear himself talk.
Think about human nature for a second.....how bad do you have to be as a bodybuilder if you have to put a pic up of yourself in a 3 peice suit at a dinner table to prove to everyone "see I told you I am someone!" thru all the bragging you do of yourself.......pretty bad.
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i am bigger and more cut than this guy
no, your not.
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You really live life on the edge :-\
LOL
I would not wanna smoke or take gear. I have only one functioning kidnet and alcohol was really putting me in serious pain Had to quit
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no, your not.
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LOL
I would not wanna smoke or take gear. I have only one functioning kidnet and alcohol was really putting me in serious pain Had to quit
we know you have only one kidney...no need to repeat yourself in every single post.
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That's attainable natural if someone has really good genetics.
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we know you have only one kidney...no need to repeat yourself in every single post.
It was explaining why i cant drink etc.
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I do not take steroids. I never have.
I have never smoked. I never will.
I did drink regularly before. Stopped over health issues. Had 1 pint a few weeks back. Months before last drink.
I dont take penicillin
Why do you ask?
i'm just wondering if you don't take steroids for spiritual reasons or some other moral code.
you workout hard, and put in effort and consistency, some test would be perfectly safe, give you great gains and help you become as big as that guy if not bigger.panda....
negative people like you slightly annoy me.. always spek for yourself... how can you speak for the entire human race you or gh15.. just reeks of jelousy because you cant achieve it doesnt mean someone else cant.. i am bigger and more cut than this guy everywhere id give him quads because his drops really low
but arms abs chest traps delts .. im bigger better shape and more cuts right now... and i can swear to God .. i have never ever taken steroids...
life lesson speak for yourself
say I CAN NOT ACHIEVE THAT NATURALLY
dont speak for the billions of men on earth...
just comes across really pathetic.. and jealous..
geez
like i care what a steroid usig liar thinks of me ::)
we all know you have taken more than natures protein.
You seriously have to be the most ridiculous guy on these boards. The last time we got into an argument where you were putting out your useless drivel you have for opinions, (but for some weird reason think of them as facts) ...... you stated all these grandiose opinions of yourself....that you were 290 clean and in shape and its because you know how to train and eat and etc etc etc and I asked you to put up or shut up.
So to shut me up you put up this picture of yourself (attached)
A fat guy in a double breasted suit giving the thumbs up at a dinner table? Thats your proof of yourself?!
I was kind of stunned and thought "whoa maybe this guy has some mental issues or is slightly retarded in some way".....and I seriously felt bad about the whole thing and just excused myself from the argument.....but now Im just coming around to think.....you are just one more guy who likes to get on the grandstand and hear himself talk.
Think about human nature for a second.....how bad do you have to be as a bodybuilder if you have to put a pic up of yourself in a 3 peice suit at a dinner table to prove to everyone "see I told you I am someone!" thru all the bragging you do of yourself.......pretty bad.
oh my meltdown ;D once again you never fail to let me down. within 5 mins of a negative dc post you are on here ;D
firstly - please feel free to quote where i said i was 290 and in shape, i was clean and had a lots of muscle, but i was in no way in shape.
2nd - how can you tell that i am fat in that pic ??? its not a suit - its a kilt and argyle coat, its not designed to be figure hugging.
3rd - you have a cheek to talk of anyone about being fat, and posting pictures, you are pathetic in every picture of you i have seen:
BOOOOOOOM SO FAT YOU HAVE FAT FOLDS IN YOUR SHOULDERS, WHILE STRATIGICALY PLACING YOUR HAND OVER THE 'GUT' TO HIDE IT
BOOOOOOOM BLOOD PRESSURE SO HIGH YOU LOOK LIKE A KILLER TOMATOE
BOOOOOOOM EPIC DISCOLOURATION BLOTCHES ALL OVER THE BACK :-X
BOOOOOOOM SAME POSE IN EVER PIC TO HIDE THE JELLY ROLLS ::)
BOOOOOOOM YOU ARE OWNED, NEVER SHOW YOUR FACE HERE AGAIN FATMAN
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BOOOOOOOM IS THAT A SUIT I SEE ::)
PATHETIC.
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i'm just wondering if you don't take steroids for spiritual reasons or some other moral code.
you workout hard, and put in effort and consistency, some test would be perfectly safe, give you great gains and help you become as big as that guy if not bigger.
like i care what a steroid usig liar thinks of me ::)
we all know you have taken more than natures protein.
oh my meltdown ;D once again you never fail to let me down. within 5 mins of a negative dc post you are on here ;D
firstly - please feel free to quote where i said i was 290 and in shape, i was clean and had a lots of muscle, but i was in no way in shape.
2nd - how can you tell that i am fat in that pic ??? its not a suit - its a kilt and argyle coat, its not designed to be figure hugging.
3rd - you have a cheek to talk of anyone about being fat, and posting pictures, you are pathetic in every picture of you i have seen:
BOOOOOOOM SO FAT YOU HAVE FAT FOLDS IN YOUR SHOULDERS, WHILE STRATIGICALY PLACING YOUR HAND OVER THE 'GUT' TO HIDE IT
BOOOOOOOM BLOOD PRESSURE SO HIGH YOU LOOK LIKE A KILLER TOMATOE
BOOOOOOOM EPIC DISCOLOURATION BLOTCHES ALL OVER THE BACK :-X
BOOOOOOOM SAME POSE IN EVER PIC TO HIDE THE JELLY ROLLS ::)
BOOOOOOOM YOU ARE OWNED, NEVER SHOW YOUR FACE HERE AGAIN FATMAN
always had you down as a good guy.... hmmm i always assume the best of people before the worst
so because i have a decent physique...
i am a steroid taking liar... and this you concluded of a person you have never actually met... the internet sure is a powerful tool where people who have low esteem can hide behind a keyboard and say whatever they feel hmmmm ok... cool man..
nothing more to say
keep working out hard...
Meso out
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man cool...
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It really depends on what you look like now and your genetics.
However, without having any other information.... I would have to say YES!
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always had you down as a good guy.... hmmm i always assume the best of people before the worst
so because i have a decent physique...
i am a steroid taking liar... and this you concluded of a person you have never actually met... the internet sure is a powerful tool where people who have low esteem can hide behind a keyboard and say whatever they feel hmmmm ok... cool man..
nothing more to say
keep working out hard...
Meso out
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man cool...
you have a better physique than streroid users. you have admited pro hormones, after a while you will see there is little point in denying it more and like chemistv2 you will admit 1 small cycle ::) before well ok one time at band camp i took 1g test blah blah blah
just like achielles = liars
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Hel yes i will blow that physique out of water.
I started training early am young and great genetics
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you have a better physique than streroid users. you have admited pro hormones, after a while you will see there is little point in denying it more and like chemistv2 you will admit 1 small cycle ::) before well ok one time at band camp i took 1g test blah blah blah
just like achielles = liars
meltdown
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BOOOOOOOM IS THAT A SUIT I SEE ::)
PATHETIC.
what a shitty back...that's probably the highest lats i have ever seen. even worse than Dennis James.
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dude i dont even know what prohormones are.... and thats on my moms life
please quote me where i have admitted to taaken any crap.
.... its one thing to have an opnion but dont make up lies...
its desperate.
....wow imagine i live thousands of miles from you and u have si=uch hate for me you make up lies...
like i said the internet is a powerful thing
how sad :-\
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Hel yes i will blow that physique out of water.
I started training early am young and great genetics
lets see what you look like when you have lost 30 pounds of fat.
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dude i dont even know what prohormones are.... and thats on my moms life
please quote me where i have admitted to taaken any crap.
.... its one thing to have an opnion but dont make up lies...
its desperate.
....wow imagine i live thousands of miles from you and u have si=uch hate for me you make up lies...
like i said the internet is a powerful thing
how sad :-\
I never got to see your pics
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i have no pics less older than 3 yrs on here
but there are old pics and vids floating around
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link?
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meltdown
no
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dude i dont even know what prohormones are.... and thats on my moms life
please quote me where i have admitted to taaken any crap.
.... its one thing to have an opnion but dont make up lies...
its desperate.
....wow imagine i live thousands of miles from you and u have si=uch hate for me you make up lies...
like i said the internet is a powerful thing
how sad :-\
LOL. Oh mes. If I remember CQ correctly, your regularly scheduled 6-month steroid disputation isn't until April, 2009. ;D
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no
meltdown. ;D
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you have a better physique than streroid users. you have admited pro hormones, after a while you will see there is little point in denying it more and like chemistv2 you will admit 1 small cycle ::) before well ok one time at band camp i took 1g test blah blah blah
just like achielles = liars
You seem to be implying once again that I am lying. Maybe I'm the only person you know who tried a cycle once (3 months of 200 mg primobolin a week plus 12 mg of winstrol a day in 1986) and chose not to do it again. I first mentioned this on here a year ago, because I saw some guys doing a gram of test a week and thought that i had gotten better results with my ridiculously mild cycle than some of the guys I saw. I am not so pathetic and lacking in character as to post pictures of myself over a 25 year span and claim I was natural in them when I am not. I have always showed my photo of when I was on and admitted to it. I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling me a liar.
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lets see what you look like when you have lost 30 pounds of fat.
I dont have 30lbs of fat to lose. I have full abdominals though i admit i am a little pudgy in areas.
The GBIII pics did not reflect what i look like.
Some old fotos, like i said will take some tomorro
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=282864;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=283883;image)
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(3 months of 200 mg primobolin a week plus 12 mg of winstrol a day in 1986) and chose not to do it again. I first mentioned this on here a year ago, because I saw some guys doing a gram of test a week and thought that i had gotten better results with my ridiculously mild cycle than some of the guys I saw.
maybe cuz back in your day you were getting pure legit stuff, nowdays guys are injecting cottoneseed oil with a few mg test here and there..lol..
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Holy crap I must of freaked you the hell out with my post FatPanda. Man you had to do some digging to find some of those! 2003?, 2004? You kept those that long on your harddrive? LOL How do you think some of those even got on the internet genius? I put those two pics up on there from a post I put up in 2003 called "Big Daddy Smooth is back in town!" in which i was making fun of myself for letting myself get so smooth that year.
See I have no problem FatPanda making light of myself,.....keep digging.....I know I put up a pic of me with a mohawk before my wife shaved my head and theres quite a few other awesome ones you probably can find. Get back to work!
Here I just made you a little collage to add to your hard drive shrine of me.
Love and kisses Dante
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LOL. Oh mes. If I remember CQ correctly, your regularly scheduled 6-month steroid disputation isn't until April, 2009. ;D
wow... how sad.... :-\
at the moment im in london
cq live tousands of miles from me...
i swear if some of you guys on here worked out as hard as you post... and try to make funny posts on here
y'all would blow that guy out the water....
but like the saying goes someone will always hate you....
hate on my friend...
..wont stop me from having a dam good shoulder and tri session tommorow...
keep lifting mes
:)
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maybe cuz back in your day you were getting pure legit stuff, nowdays guys are injecting cottoneseed oil with a few mg test here and there..lol..
True, from what i understand the counterfeit problem started going strong about 1988. So I'm pretty sure had the Real deal.
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I dont have 30lbs of fat to lose. I have full abdominals though i admit i am a little pudgy in areas.
The GBIII pics did not reflect what i look like.
Some old fotos, like i said will take some tomorro
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=282864;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=283883;image)
lookin solid goudster
thats what i like to see...
one of the few natural hard workers on getbig
and his phsique reflects his hard work
looking good man
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Holy crap I must of freaked you the hell out with my post FatPanda. Man you had to do some digging to find some of those! 2003?, 2004? You kept those that long on your harddrive? LOL How do you think some of those even got on the internet genius? I put those two pics up on there from a post I put up in 2003 called "Big Daddy Smooth is back in town!" in which i was making fun of myself for letting myself get so smooth that year.
See I have no problem FatPanda making light of myself,.....keep digging.....I know I put up a pic of me with a mohawk before my wife shaved my head and theres quite a few other awesome ones you probably can find. Get back to work!
Here I just made you a little collage to add to your hard drive shrine of me.
Love and kisses Dante
Your triceps have a very odd shape from the back
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lookin solid goudster
thats what i like to see...
one of the few natural hard workers on getbig
and his phsique reflects his hard work
looking good man
cheers man they are old pics...well the top one anyway i look piss poor. Maybe take a fotos tomorro also
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I dont have 30lbs of fat to lose. I have full abdominals though i admit i am a little pudgy in areas.
The GBIII pics did not reflect what i look like.
Some old fotos, like i said will take some tomorro
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=282864;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225817.0;attach=283883;image)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v287/228/11/1324685224/n1324685224_30031044_3425.jpg)
You are same as me. You get fat around your pecs.
You can get decent condition 6kg minus.
The contest condition 10kg-12kg minus.
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You are same as me. You get fat around your pecs.
You can get decent condition 6kg minus.
The contest condition 10kg-12kg minus.
yeah something like that. I estimated about 13-14 kilos.
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I dont have fat around my pecs.
They are small. and not full particularly my outter chest around niple etc They kinda go flat if i tense them i think thats why they look fat around teh chest if you get my drift
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naw man... i give credit where its due
looking solid... tall guy but your frame is full...
looking good man....you will only get better as time goes on.. because like me... i can tell you love training
if i were you i wouldnt worry about proving youself with pics.. as youve noticed i havent posted a recent pic
of me in years 80% of people here are haters jealous... pure and simple.. half of them dont even train...i used to love sharing trainin vids whatever. so i could motivate people .. and also i would watch people like yourself croatch... mike arvilla.. chris mason mattc etc etc.. and be inspired. and learn .i love training and like to share in the whole atmosphere
but like i said looking good man looking good
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I dont have fat around my pecs.
They are small. and not full particularly my outter chest around niple etc They kinda go flat if i tense them i think thats why they look fat around teh chest if you get my drift
yes you do, underneath your nipple and it goes down into your arm pit. its estrogen dependant fat. it looks exactly like the fat stores guys get when using aromatizable steroids like test and dbol.
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I dont have fat around my pecs.
They are small. and not full particularly my outter chest around niple etc They kinda go flat if i tense them i think thats why they look fat around teh chest if you get my drift
Nothing to do with the size of pec.
I have seen many guys whose pec line is clear in spite of their high fat % and small pecs.
Just keep on diet down and you will see it.
Your waist line is quite lean.
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btw i wasnt trying to be a dick and argue i was just letting you know.
I get ya now buddy. Yea my waist is ok i guess. genetics and i am kinda young still...hopefully i look half as goos as you when im ur age.
once gain thanks meso!!
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cool take into consideration .. what i said about posting pics.. notice the people on this thread who are accussing people and throwing out insults.. not one effing pic of them...
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btw i wasnt trying to be a dick and argue i was just letting you know.
I get ya now buddy. Yea my waist is ok i guess. genetics and i am kinda young still...hopefully i look half as goos as you when im ur age.
once gain thanks meso!!
You are already built my friend. If you want to compete one day, you need legs. But if u dont, you have already a great body.
Just i say that the fat around your pec will go when you get even more lean.
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someone already said this.
People with half decent physiques or those withing striking distance of it believe it possible. I do believe many will have passed it.
Those jealous or frustrated dorks say impossible.
I believe that some will never attin that level but dont begrudge others with better genetics chance to surpass it. like there are plenty of ppl better than me in so many aspects...i dont hate them foir it
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someone already said this.
People with half decent physiques or those withing striking distance of it believe it possible. I do believe many will have passed it.
Those jealous or frustrated dorks say impossible.
I believe that some will never attin that level but dont begrudge others with better genetics chance to surpass it. like there are plenty of ppl better than me in so many aspects...i dont hate them foir it
Ha!
Last week, I and Paco were talking that if you dont win Spain or Mediterranean or Europe with natural state, better giving up becoming a top level pro!
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Ha!
Last week, I and Paco were talking that if you dont win Spain or Mediterranean or Europe with natural state, better giving up becoming a top level pro!
kyomu... if you are making your living off of how great your body is... dont you think you want people to think that you are 'special", "gifted", genetically blessed"...?
Paco lies abotu having good genetics.
genetics = hormones.
whe you change your hormones, you change your genetics. its as simple as that.
whatever your natural genetics dont mean jack shit for pro type bodybuilding.
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Ha!
Last week, I and Paco were talking that if you dont win Spain or Mediterranean or Europe with natural state, better giving up becoming a top level pro!
Are u fucking kidding?
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kyomu... if you are making your living off of how great your body is... dont you think you want people to think that you are 'special", "gifted", genetically blessed"...?
Paco lies abotu having good genetics.
genetics = hormones.
whe you change your hormones, you change your genetics. its as simple as that.
whatever your natural genetics dont mean jack shit for pro type bodybuilding.
spoken like a person who doesn't have any genetic potential and is trying to make himself feel better.
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kyomu... if you are making your living off of how great your body is... dont you think you want people to think that you are 'special", "gifted", genetically blessed"...?
Paco lies abotu having good genetics.
genetics = hormones.
whe you change your hormones, you change your genetics. its as simple as that.
whatever your natural genetics dont mean jack shit for pro type bodybuilding.
Hey, do you think that Paco is the only guy i know?
I know another semi-pro or even ifbb pro here. They use tons of hormones, insulin, GH....etc.
And they are exactly half size of Paco.
And Paco was huge from his junior age. Just the guy is a genetic monster.
If those hormones are that powerful, everybody can be a size of Paco. Gimme a break.
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spoken like a person who doesn't have any genetic potential and is trying to make himself feel better.
my natural genetics are amazing... my potential is limitless... my dedication is flawless... my work ethic is astounding... my appetite is otrageous... my knowledge is breathtaking... :-* you can ask for a picture and an autograph in a few years, but ill make you pay 20 bucks for it ;)
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my natural genetics are amazing... my potential is limitless... my dedication is flawless... my work ethic is astounding... my appetite is otrageous... my knowledge is breathtaking... :-* you can ask for a picture and an autograph in a few years, but ill make you pay 20 bucks for it ;)
your arrogance is even more impressive
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my natural genetics are amazing... my potential is limitless... my dedication is flawless... my work ethic is astounding... my appetite is otrageous... my knowledge is breathtaking... :-* you can ask for a picture and an autograph in a few years, but ill make you pay 20 bucks for it ;)
Hi Louie! ;D
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my natural genetics are amazing... my potential is limitless... my dedication is flawless... my work ethic is astounding... my appetite is otrageous... my knowledge is breathtaking... :-* you can ask for a picture and an autograph in a few years, but ill make you pay 20 bucks for it ;)
hahahahahahahahahahaha spoken like a true mike tyson fan
when will we see you compete?
that's a lot of big words for such a small man ;D
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your arrogance is even more impressive
your own is getting there too goudy.
you seem to think you are the greatest gift to genetics the world has seen.
you are the classic powerlifter build - no neck, all tris and shoulders.
do not be fooled by these liars. they have taken gear.
you want proof, just compare them to the guys from thr 60's and 70's. these gym rats are more than holding their own against golden greats ::)
you entered mr getbig, and people were rightly impressed by your thick physique, but facts are facts genetics are a myth.
you will never, and focus on this - NEVER achieve the muscle mass of that guy from the beach as he takes gear, you do not.
if you start, you might.
hell seva took 100mg of dbol a day and look at the tiny gains he made.
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your arrogance is even more impressive
it's not arrogance, it's sheer desilusion , stupidity and immaturity all wrapped in a nice sandwich of retardness.
and looks like it's a quote from someone else, so he didnt even invent it.
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your own is getting there too goudy.
you seem to think you are the greatest gift to genetics the world has seen.
you are the classic powerlifter build - no neck, all tris and shoulders.
do not be fooled by these liars. they have taken gear.
you want proof, just compare them to the guys from thr 60's and 70's. these gym rats are more than holding their own against golden greats ::)
you entered mr getbig, and people were rightly impressed by your thick physique, but facts are facts genetics are a myth.
you will never, and focus on this - NEVER achieve the muscle mass of that guy from the beach as he takes gear, you do not.
if you start, you might.
hell seva took 100mg of dbol a day and look at the tiny gains he made.
haaa, some smart posts once in a while are refreshing.
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your own is getting there too goudy.
you seem to think you are the greatest gift to genetics the world has seen.
you are the classic powerlifter build - no neck, all tris and shoulders.
do not be fooled by these liars. they have taken gear.
you want proof, just compare them to the guys from thr 60's and 70's. these gym rats are more than holding their own against golden greats ::)
you entered mr getbig, and people were rightly impressed by your thick physique, but facts are facts genetics are a myth.
you will never, and focus on this - NEVER achieve the muscle mass of that guy from the beach as he takes gear, you do not.
if you start, you might.
hell seva took 100mg of dbol a day and look at the tiny gains he made.
Genetics are a huge part.
i started training with my friend when i started off. Within a few months i could bench 220lbs. He could not and never did bench 220 after 2 years of training. We followed very simlar programmes at the start.
Haha you seem dispondent and pissed off. I will achieve a thicker and more musclular pic than the beach guy. And when i do. Then i try to get a bit better.
I always make smaller goals.
what gym rats are we on about btw?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2hpmuts.jpg)
Here's a pic i did last year, my legs (as we know) are way smaller than his but I would be about 3-4 kg bigger in the same condition now. He has a bit of thickness on me though but his arms are pretty weak where mine are much better now. I'll try to remember to take a pic at the beach this weekend. I'm probly not too far off it, give me another year and we will see :). I think it's a lot to do with genetics, I look hella good at the beach but still feel small in the gym :P.
So to sum up the guy looks good (overall better than me but not by much now days) but i'd say some people here could do it with hard work for sure :).
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Genetics are a huge part.
i started training with my friend when i started off. Within a few months i could bench 220lbs. He could not and never did bench 220 after 2 years of training. We followed very simlar programmes at the start.
Haha you seem dispondent and pissed off. I will achieve a thicker and more musclular pic than the beach guy. And when i do. Then i try to get a bit better.
I always make smaller goals.
what gym rats are we on about btw?
your friend did not have the same dna as you either, or the same sleep patterns, or eaten the same, etc etc
i am not dispondant or pissed off.
you are delusional, your pecs are small because you probably focus on tris for pressing, this will not change untill you change your workouts somewhat. if you do your powerlifting may suffer.
regardless, even with the perfect bb workout routine without gear you are nothing.
here is an example of what a powerlifter who takes gear looks like
(first 3)
last pic is a powerlifter who doesn't ;)
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Newsflash...the guy on beach looks nothing like the gear guy.
I do ok. What about yourself, what do you look like? weight etc. Maybe this would shed some light on your attitude.
I am not delusional and think that i can or will look like arnold without gear.
Though i do believe i will and can be 270lbs one day at my current b/f naturally.
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Here's a pic i did last year, my legs (as we know) are way smaller than his but I would be about 3-4 kg bigger in the same condition now. He has a bit of thickness on me though but his arms are pretty weak where mine are much better now. I'll try to remember to take a pic at the beach this weekend. I'm probly not too far off it, give me another year and we will see :). I think it's a lot to do with genetics, I look hella good at the beach but still feel small in the gym :P.
So to sum up the guy looks good (overall better than me but not by much now days) but i'd say some people here could do it with hard work for sure :).
Giood post. The naifs here like gh15 who can't fathom that this is quite attainable naturally (it isn't a BB look) are basically admitting that they never busted their balls lifting without resorting to drugs, and can't tell the difference.
The guy's physique is nice but not at all huge, quite attainable thru hard work and solid genetics. Been there done that. Those of you who don't have the balls to ever know this first-hand, eat your heart out. ;D
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Newsflash...the guy on beach looks nothing like the gear guy.
Exactly, the geniuses here who keep resorting to the drugs excuse don't seem to fathom that the guy on the beach has a good natural looking physique-duh!
Try lifting weights intensely for a few years.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=293142)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2hpmuts.jpg)
Here's a pic i did last year, my legs (as we know) are way smaller than his but I would be about 3-4 kg bigger in the same condition now. He has a bit of thickness on me though but his arms are pretty weak where mine are much better now. I'll try to remember to take a pic at the beach this weekend. I'm probly not too far off it, give me another year and we will see :). I think it's a lot to do with genetics, I look hella good at the beach but still feel small in the gym :P.
So to sum up the guy looks good (overall better than me but not by much now days) but i'd say some people here could do it with hard work for sure :).
how many times do you train chest and arms a week? 2/3/4 ?
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Also im sure that my different DNA from my friend is certainly linked to 'genetics'
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your friend did not have the same dna as you either, or the same sleep patterns, or eaten the same, etc etc
i am not dispondant or pissed off.
you are delusional, your pecs are small because you probably focus on tris for pressing, this will not change untill you change your workouts somewhat. if you do your powerlifting may suffer.
regardless, even with the perfect bb workout routine without gear you are nothing.
here is an example of what a powerlifter who takes gear looks like
(first 3)
last pic is a powerlifter who doesn't ;)
both guys in the pictures dont know how to focus on their chest while working out.
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Exactly, the geniuses here who keep resorting to the drugs excuse don't seem to fathom that the guy on the beach has a good natural looking physique-duh!
Try lifting weights intensely for a while.
wheres that pic that proves you looked as good ?
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i always used a ridiculous narrow grip.
I have since started widening it. My grip used to be outside 1" inside the knurling. Now i moved it to around an inch or 2 inside the rings.
Prob another reason why my chest sucks. However. I do have naturally strong delts and tris
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Also im sure that my different DNA from my friend is certainly linked to 'genetics'
yes dna may be different, however the way the human body builds muscle in response to heavy loads is not different in terms of genetics.
stop goudy, seriously.
i thought getbig was smarter than this, i've never seen so many immature views on bodybuilding in my life.
so sad to think all the years that you will all waste buying true protein by the bucket, lifting for hours on end very week only to hit a wall and never change from then on :'(
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i always used a ridiculous narrow grip.
I have since started widening it. My grip used to be outside 1" inside the knurling. Now i moved it to around an inch or 2 inside the rings.
Prob another reason why my chest sucks. However. I do have naturally strong delts and tris
are you serious ?
dumb as a bag of rocks.
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wheres that pic that proves you looked as good ?
I still look good. As long as i know that and still get looks of envy while working out, that's enough for me. I don't need your approval there pal. ;) ;) ;)
My point stands and has been reinforced by others-those with good physiques who put in the work already know that the beach guy's physique is quite attainable. It's not a hard-core BB look that requires hormones, nah those are the fantasies of those who couldn't do it by themselves. ;D
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I still look good. As long as i know that and still get looks of envy while working out, that's enough for me. I don't need your approval there pal. ;) ;) ;)
My point stands and has been reinforced by others-those with good physiques who put in the work already know that the beach guy's physique is quite attainable. It's not a hard-core BB look that requires hormones, nah.
hahahahahahahaha thought so ::)
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hahahahahahahaha thought so ::)
I look better than you by the way fatso bwahahaahahaha if i need a piano moved i'll pm. ;)
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how many times do you train chest and arms a week? 2/3/4 ?
I am on a 6 day split atm, am focusing on legs arms and shoulders to catch them up to chest and back.
As Goudy said some of us just have better genetics for certain body parts ;). The dude in the pic looks to have great genetics for chest where Goudy needs to work harder there, but i'd give my left nut for Goudys overall size ;D.
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I look better than you by the way fatso bwahahaahahaha if i need a piano moved i'll pm. ;)
i'm sure you do, you just refuse to post a pic out of principle, despite insisting you look better than the guy from the beach ::)
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i'm sure you do, you just refuse to post a pic out of principle, despite insisting you look better than the guy from the beach ::)
My point's been overwhelmingly proven thru others, your fascination with me's amusing. Sounds like you want some nudes as well. :-*
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not really dumb. felt natural to me.
Plus when starting out i cared about strength...size was irrelevant.
I got a wee bit of both so i cant complain. Plus i dont wanna sacrafice one for the other. Im happy with a lil bitta both.
If that is teh case if two people same weight on same diet and same sleep patterns lift the same weights they will look the same? Are you implying this?
What about natural T levels...these vary a huge amount.
Fatpanda will you or have you ever posted a pic.
Seriously what are your stats. roughly or a fairly accurate estimation of bench squat dead row and press
I would bet that i am as strong as some guys that outweigh me by 40lbs..
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My point's been overwhelmingly proven thru others, your fascination with me's amusing. Sounds like you want some nudes as well. :-*
no jeans on is fine, simply a topless shot to compare pec thickness and arms/shoulder size.
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not really dumb. felt natural to me.
Plus when starting out i cared about strength...size was irrelevant.
I got a wee bit of both so i cant complain. Plus i dont wanna sacrafice one for the other. Im happy with a lil bitta both.
If that is teh case if two people same weight on same diet and same sleep patterns lift the same weights they will look the same? Are you implying this?
What about natural T levels...these vary a huge amount.
Fatpanda will you or have you ever posted a pic.
Seriously what are your stats. roughly or a fairly accurate estimation of bench squat dead row and press
I would bet that i am as strong as some guys that outweigh me by 40lbs..
the dumb thing was assuming you have good genetics for shoulder and tri mass and poor for chest when your press style directly targets tri's and shoulders.
2 twins who eat the same etc will look the same yes.
test levels can be different in different people, and hence achieve different levels of muscle mass but in normal ranges the difference would hardly be earth shattering.
yes i have posted a pic here.
at my best :
bench was 260 for 12,
squat was 550 for 12,
dead was 450 for 6
row was 280 for 12
as you can see at my strongest (while younger) i training in typical bb rep ranges, but tore both rotators so now i'm only doing lighter weights and building back up slowly to avoid setbacks.
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can you link to pic please
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Got to love the retards here who claim to be experts and say that the physique in the pic is not attainable naturally ::)
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Got to love the retards here who claim to be experts and say that the physique in the pic is not attainable naturally ::)
you must be quite the beast kiwiol, care to post a pic proving this is atainable ?
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you must be quite the beast kiwiol, care to post a pic proving this is atainable ?
32, lifetime natural, been training on and off for about 15 years and am 220 on a frame that's just under 5'9". No prohormones or any thing other than a bit of creatine on and off, and protein powder of course. My arms are around 19"
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32, lifetime natural, been training on and off for about 15 years and am 220 on a frame that's just under 5'9". No prohormones or any thing other than a bit of creatine on and off, and protein powder of course.
omg i've never seen such wide lats, thick traps and shoulders on a natural before.
your training and diet must be 100% perfect.
outstanding.
p.s. i don't believe you either. :D
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Fatpanda what thread is ur pic in?
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omg i've never seen such wide lats, thick traps and shoulders on a natural before.
your training and diet must be 100% perfect.
outstanding.
p.s. i don't believe you either. :D
No offense, but the world doesn't go dark when you close your eyes. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. And while I'm OK looking, I've seen guys who are more muscular than me. I've done what I can with my genetics and I train very hard and heavy.
And the reason you think I'm not natural is the same reason you will never look as good as you can naturally - you've basically admitted defeat without even taking a shot, simply based on what other people who are clueless like you have made you believe. If the world were full of people like you, we wouldn't make much progress.
I think I can be 230 or even 240 at the bodyfat I'm at (~15%) and that's all I wish to achieve out of lifting. That and being strong as hell.
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No offense, but the world doesn't go dark when you close your eyes. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. And while I'm OK looking, I've seen guys who are more muscular than me. I've done what I can with my genetics and I train very hard and heavy.
And the reason you think I'm not natural is the same reason you will never look as good as you can naturally - you've basically admitted defeat even without taking a shot, simply based on what other people who are clueless like you have made you believe. If the world were full of people like you, we wouldn't make much progress.
I think I can be 230 or even 240 at the bodyfat I'm at (~15%) and that's all I wish to achieve out of lifting. That and being strong as hell.
i think your closer to 20% bf but your looking big as shit, good work
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p.s. i don't believe you either. :D
I'm the same height as Dennis James, so I hope the pics below show you the difference in size and muscularity between a natural like me and a pro like him. Trust me, I look OK, but I'm nothing compared to guys like him or Mike Francois who are the same height but who are also around 100 lb heavier
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32, lifetime natural, been training on and off for about 15 years and am 220 on a frame that's just under 5'9". No prohormones or any thing other than a bit of creatine on and off, and protein powder of course. My arms are a bit over 19"
Looks good, Kiwi. That hallway shot, hyperbole aside, echoes Oliva.
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he's not a natural ;D
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are you ignoring me fatpanda?
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looking jacked as usual Kiwi.
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are you ignoring me fatpanda?
no, if you would read other threads its in the dc thread at the top of the gossip page.
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kiwi and Man of Steel are the new Legion of Doom........
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he's not a natural ;D
Sorry mate, I thought you were being naive, but you are just being stupid. You believe what you want. I can see why you look the way you do - all the drugs and personal trainers and knowledge from the experts won't help you build the body you can build with the size of your frame because you lack the heart and the balls to take something on like a real man - You are just another fat guy who gave up before you even began, cause you think it's impossible and believe that with all your heart. Stick to discussing dosages of steroids and shit like that - nothing is going to help you just as certain as the fact that you are never going to post a clear shot of your physique. Good luck anyway :)
Looks good, Kiwi. That hallway shot, hyperbole aside, echoes Oliva.
Yeah, I've got the bald head part down pat. Just need to catch up on the rest :D
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scrolled through the thread cant see ur pic at all.
i think ur full of cock.
anyway i am off to eat then head to bed.
later folks
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i think your closer to 20% bf but your looking big as shit, good work
Deadlifts and rows .. ;)
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Deadlifts and rows and gear .. ;)
fixed
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Looking good kiwol very thick powerful build keep up the good work
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lol ..I think kiwis a nattie..he is big and full but not "lean", but is very muscular..
His type of build is what can be acheived for most people that stick to basic heavy compound lifts and lots of good quality food.
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Looking good kiwol very thick powerful build keep up the good work
Right back at you stud
lol ..I think kiwis a nattie..he is big and full but not "lean", but is very muscular..
His type of build is what can be acheived for most people that stick to basic heavy compound lifts and lots of good quality food.
Exactly mate. I've never made a single post in the steroid board or nutrition board and I don't even know the basics of juicing or the names of steroids and all that nonsense. And I train at Auckland Univ gym where a lot of the members think I'm Mr Olympia + the one of the strongest men in NZ ROFL ;D
Fatpanda obviously has no clue as to what hard lifting and dedication / consistency is. I just know he won't change the way he looks no matter what he takes or who he trains under, with that kind of attitude.
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Kiwi,looking large bro......big props!
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he has loads of bodyhair on back, shoulders etc, but none on head :D classic sign of gear use.
he has massive thick traps, shoulders, wide lats and bi's - the traps shoulders and lats are all classic AR sites that respond to gear.
very similar physique to dj, all be it smaller, to me he clearly uses gear but no isulin or gh.
no way is he natural.
goudy sticks to basic heavy compound lifts and is not a patch in kiwiol. in fact that powerlifter i posted is on gear and is not even a patch on kiwol. :-\
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Right back at you stud
Exactly mate. I've never made a single post in the steroid board or nutrition board and I don't even know the basics of juicing or the names of steroids and all that nonsense. And I train at Auckland Univ gym where a lot of the members think I'm Mr Olympia + the one of the strongest men in NZ ROFL ;D
Fatpanda obviously has no clue as to what hard lifting and dedication / consistency is. I just know he won't change the way he looks no matter what he takes or who he trains under, with that kind of attitude.
kiwol, if you don't mind pleas epost your diet and workout regime.
if you are natural you could be the greatest mr o since ronnie coleman if you took gear.
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Kiwi, you are a big guy no doubt, but you arms aren't 19 inches...
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he has loads of bodyhair on back, shoulders etc, but none on head :D classic sign of gear use.
So anyone who is bald is on juice? Good one dude. Keep saying I'm not natural - I'll just take it as a compliment and move on. Just don't give out any advice to anyone on anything concerning bodybuilding, unless it's about how to gain fat and be clueless ;D
BTW, there are about 3 guys here who know me IRL who could back up what I say, but what's the point?
Kiwi, you are a big guy no doubt, but you arms aren't 19 inches...
True. They are actually 19.1 8)
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So you arms are only a hair smaller than this guys???
(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/VinceTaylor/taylorv.jpg)
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kiwol, if you don't mind pleas epost your diet and workout regime.
if you are natural you could be the greatest mr o since ronnie coleman if you took gear.
My diet is nothing special or regimented, but I take a lot of protein (over 2 g per pound of body weight), with plenty of meat (mostly red) and anything I feel like eating. I eat on average around 4 times a day - sometimes only 3 and sometimes 5 or even 6 times. And I eat tons of sugar everyday in the form of chocolate or Nutella (I just spoon it down).
Training, I train each bodypart once every 2 weeks except for legs that are trained once a week cause they need to catch up with my upper body. I do basic, free weight, compound movements to failure (around 6 - 8 reps) and except for deadlifts, do a triple drop on each of them. I do about 12 - 15 working sets for each bodypart starting with the most compound and heaviest weight, with maybe a bit of cable stuff thrown in the end. Every set is taken to failure and I do a triple drop, again to failure (10 - 12 reps for the first drop set and 15 - 20 for the second drop set with a fairly light weight).
I take at least 1 day off between workouts and do no cardio. That's how I've been training for 12+ years now - the exercises / routine is the same and I only try to steadily increase the weight over a period of time - basically, the theory of progressive overload.
And FYI, if you see Polynesians, you'll know what being muscular is. I've got a small frame with small joints and fairly round muscle bellies, but a lot of Polynesians and Maori here in NZ are muscular beyond belief, from just eating burgers and corn beef and taro.
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he has loads of bodyhair on back, shoulders etc, but none on head :D classic sign of gear use.
he has massive thick traps, shoulders, wide lats and bi's - the traps shoulders and lats are all classic AR sites that respond to gear.
very similar physique to dj, all be it smaller, to me he clearly uses gear but no isulin or gh.
no way is he natural.
goudy sticks to basic heavy compound lifts and is not a patch in kiwiol. in fact that powerlifter i posted is on gear and is not even a patch on kiwol. :-\
I had a recedding hairline and hairy back before I touched gear .
Iv been shaving my head since I was 19 ,Im 33 now.
The back gets waxed ;D
But again.10 Solid years sticking to compound lifts with lots of good quality foods..
Most wont beleive that because they want instant results..
The classic AR sites you point to all respond and thicken with heavy lifting on the basics to..
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So you arms are only a hair smaller than this guys???
(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/VinceTaylor/taylorv.jpg)
I don't know what you are smoking or where you got your info from, but there's no way in Hell Vince's arms are below 20" or even 20.5". And he's about 5% body fat whereas I'm around 16%. Don't think my arms would be much bigger than 17" max if I'm that lean, which I won't be cause I'm not interested in competing - never was.
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My diet is nothing special or regimented, but I take a lot of protein (over 2 g per pound of body weight), with plenty of meat (mostly red) and anything I feel like eating. I eat on average around 4 times a day - sometimes only 3 and sometimes 5 or even 6 times. And I eat tons of sugar everyday in the form of chocolate or Nutella (I just spoon it down).
Training, I train each bodypart once every 2 weeks except for legs that are trained once a week cause they need to catch up with my upper body. I do basic, free weight, compound movements to failure (around 6 - 8 reps) and except for deadlifts, do a triple drop on each of them. I do about 12 - 15 working sets for each bodypart starting with the most compound and heaviest weight, with maybe a bit of cable stuff thrown in the end. Every set is taken to failure and I do a triple drop, again to failure (10 - 12 reps for the first drop set and 15 - 20 for the second drop set with a fairly light weight).
I take at least 1 day off between workouts and do no cardio. That's how I've been training for 12+ years now - the exercises / routine is the same and I only try to steadily increase the weight over a period of time - basically, the theory of progressive overload.
And FYI, if you see Polynesians, you'll know what being muscular is. I've got a small frame with small joints and fairly round muscle bellies, but a lot of Polynesians and Maori here in NZ are muscular beyond belief, from just eating burgers and corn beef and taro.
you have just described my workout and diet to a tee, except the drop sets.
I had a recedding hairline and hairy back before I touched gear .
Iv been shaving my head since I was 19 ,Im 33 now.
The back gets waxed ;D
But again.10 Solid years sticking to compound lifts with lots of good quality foods..
Most wont beleive that because they want instant results..
The classic AR sites you point to all respond and thicken with heavy lifting on the basics to..
so how long have you been on the gear will ? :D
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So you arms are only a hair smaller than this guys???
(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/VinceTaylor/taylorv.jpg)
Thats not comparing apples with apples..Vince is ripped to shreds there , in his off season he would gain fat and water..
If kiwi dieted down to that lower bf % he wouldnt have 19 inch arms..
He is not fat , Im not saying that..the type of training he does needs the extra padding to help..
He looks a power house and what most dedicated lifters look like in there off season.big , powerfull and muscular.
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Anyone in decent shape is automatically is on the juice. It's as if no one here works out at all.
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He looks a power house and what most dedicated lifters look like in there off season.big , powerfull and muscular.
Bingo! That's exactly what I wanted to achieve - I want to look strong and thick, like Dorian, as opposed to being slender and Apollonian like a Calvin Klein model.
Anyone in decent shape is automatically is on the juice. It's as if no one here works out at all.
Spot on as usual, Doc 8)
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kiwol if you are telling the truth as i said you have similar if not better genetics than ronnie coleman.
if you took gear you would be amount the greatest bodybuilders ever ( they seem to be quite common on getbig)
however i think you already have no matter what you say.
if i am wriong, take it as a compliment and move on. If you are lying for whatever reason pm me and explain why please.
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Lol...I can't believe this thread is still going...IMO the dude on the beach has an attainable physique naturally (IF YOU HAVE A NATURAL ASTHETIC PHYSIQUE) theres nothing on him that is "questionable" his chest is great and the rest of his body looks good. Nothing on the guy screams roids..
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kiwol can you explain how you are better built than dante despite him taking over 1g of test a week + while you are natural ?
he also takes in 500-600g of protein a day. all from true protein.com ( use 'anotherfool' promocode for 5% discount)
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kiwol can you explain how you are better built than dante despite him taking over 1g of test a week + while you are natural ?
he also takes in 500-600g of protein a day. all from true protein.com ( use 'anotherfool' promocode for 5% discount)
are u implying kiwiol is a liar and that his physique might be chemicaly enhanced?
maybe dante just sucks at working out compared to kiwiol.
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kiwol can you explain how you are better built than dante despite him taking over 1g of test a week + while you are natural ?
he also takes in 500-600g of protein a day. all from true protein.com ( use 'anotherfool' promocode for 5% discount)
Simple - I've got better shape and full muscle bellies, with small joints whereas the guy in the pic has a much bigger frame. And it doesn't really matter how many grams of protein you take, as long as you eat enough - being thick and muscular is always about how hard and heavy you lift, NOT what you are injecting or which protein cocktail you take, although those things will make a difference once your training is sorted.
Heaps of people go to the gym all over the world, but only a minuscule look good and make visible progress. Heaps of people go to universities, start businesses, do research etc, but again, only a fraction of them end up being Nobel prize winning academics or multi millionaires. Why? Because of a combination of things, that always has to include the amount of effort they put in, along with the talent they had for it in the first place.
There are girls who are very pretty naturally, with a full, curvaceous figure while there are others who struggle to look decent even with things like boob jobs and various nips and tucks. So what does that mean? And what happens if you compare my build to that of DJ or Ronnie - aren't they in a league of their own compared to a guy like me? Ask yourself what that means - it's not very hard to see.
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kiwol can you explain how you are better built than dante despite him taking over 1g of test a week + while you are natural ?
he also takes in 500-600g of protein a day. all from true protein.com ( use 'anotherfool' promocode for 5% discount)
Oh i just remembered who you are now....you are that alcoholic guy who cant put the booze down...no wonder your so pissed off at me and the world. I just remembered your deal...it just hit me....you are the guy with the severe drinking problem that loses it every once in a while. Its got to suck to be you.....ass is owned by a bottle of booze every day and so pathetic of a bber that you can only show a pic of you at a dinner table with a double breasted suit on. Cmon lets see a most muscular shot with 3 winter jackets on and a bottle of scotch in one hand and vodka on the rocks in the other Drunky Brewster.
The world kind of works like this.....if 10 people around you think your a jackass and your the one guy who thinks he isnt.....take it to the bank that you ARE the jackass.....somehow thru all these threads today with everyone blasting you left and right.....you still havent "figured it out".....might be time to sober up so you can think with a little more clarity....
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Kiwi, vince stated in contest shape his arms were only 19.5, so you think at your current state and his dieted down state, your arms are only .4 inches smaller than his?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men181.jpg)
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Oh i just remembered who you are now....you are that alcoholic guy who cant put the booze down...no wonder your so pissed off at me and the world. I just remembered your deal...it just hit me....you are the guy with the severe drinking problem that loses it every once in a while. Its got to suck to be you.....ass is owned by a bottle of booze every day and so pathetic of a bber that you can only show a pic of you at a dinner table with a double breasted suit on. Cmon lets see a most muscular shot with 3 winter jackets on and a bottle of scotch in one hand and vodka on the rocks in the other Drunky Brewster.
The world kind of works like this.....if 10 people around you think your a jackass and your the one guy who thinks he isnt.....take it to the bank that you ARE the jackass.....somehow thru all these threads today with everyone blasting you left and right.....you still havent "figured it out".....might be time to sober up so you can think with a little more clarity....
you still stalking me big stuff ?
tell me big man, have you ever been below 10% bf ? have you ever been natural ? doesn't it worry you when your skin turns that deep purple colour? doesn't it worry you that your guy is between 45-50 "?
so sad, a supposed big time internet bodybuilding thief guru stalking a scotsman and making up claim of alcoholism ::)
we both know who wins this 'big' man - run along.
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Kiwi, vince stated in contest shape his arms were only 19.5, so you think at your current state and his dieted down state, your arms are only .4 inches smaller than his?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men181.jpg)
I don't think my arms are 19.1 - I know they are. And as mentioned before, I'm fat whereas he is superlean, sitting at around 4%. So yes, my arms in my current shape would only be about a third of an inch smaller than his, but if I were as lean as he was, mine wouldn't be anymore than 17" - 17.5". And bear in mind that Vince Taylor weighs about 230 lbs onstage - nowhere near as big as an offseason Ronnie Coleman from circa 2000, where he weighed about 320 lb, with 22"+ arms.
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just to point out, when you diet, you dont lose an inch and a half on your arms...
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I don't think my arms are 19.1 - I know they are. And as mentioned before, I'm fat whereas he is superlean, sitting at around 4%. So yes, my arms in my current shape would only be about a third of an inch smaller than his, but if I were as lean as he was, mine wouldn't be anymore than 17" - 17.5". And bear in mind that Vince Taylor weighs about 230 lbs onstage - nowhere near as big as an offseason Ronnie Coleman from circa 2000, where he weighed about 320 lb, with 22"+ arms.
It's amazing how delusional people on this site are.
Look at the Xmen-Thread, there are people here who think Hugh Jackman is on juice!!!
Clearly a juicer's body, lol!!
(http://innerjoejoe.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/hughjackman.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/spicypants/CSmack/hugh1.jpg)
(http://www.jackmanslanding.com/gallery/mags-portraits/images/hugh_01.jpg)
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just to point out, when you diet, you dont lose an inch and a half on your arms...
You do, when you are as fat as I am in the pics I posted ;D Maybe I won't lose 2 inches, but I'll lose at least an inch and a little above. And remember, it's not like I'll retain 100% of my lean mass if I dieted down - I'll also lose a fair bit of muscle and drop water, both of which will contribute to additional loss in size in my arms and elsewhere.
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just to point out, when you diet, you dont lose an inch and a half on your arms...
He would being natural and higher bf..
Shit even on juice you loose inches on the tape on your arms when you are dieting down..
What the hell are you talking about GAU ???
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You do, when you are as fat as I am in the pics I posted ;D Maybe I won't lose 2 inches, but I'll lose at least an inch and a little above. And remember, it's not like I'll retain 100% of my lean mass if I dieted down - I'll also lose a fair bit of muscle and drop water, both of which will contribute to additional loss in size in my arms and elsewhere.
I agree with that statement to an extent, yes you will lose water, fat, and muscle, but an inch is a lot, you aren't fat in those pics man. I'm not trying to be an ass, you seem like a cool guy, there is just so much bullshit floating around about arm measurments around here....
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It's amazing how delusional people on this site are.
Look at the Xmen-Thread, there are people here who think Hugh Jackman is on juice!!!
Clearly a juicer's body, lol!!
Agreed. He looks great and is quite lean, which makes him look bigger than he really is, not to mention on screen everyone looks around 10 - 20 lb heavier. At this rate, I get the feeling some people are gonna claim Patrick Stewart (Professor X) juices cause he's bald and weighs around 140 lbs, with 13" arms ;D
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Agreed. He looks great and is quite lean, which makes him look bigger than he really is, not to mention on screen everyone looks around 10 - 20 lb heavier. At this rate, I get the feeling some people are gonna claim Patrick Stewart (Professor X) juices cause he's bald and weighs around 140 lbs, with 13" arms ;D
Did you see the movies?
Take Spiderman, for example. Tobey McGuire CLEARLY juiced for this movie.
(http://cache.defamer.com/hollywood/tobey-maguire-fat.jpg)
I mean, he was throwing around cars and stuff, you have to be on juice to be that strong. ::)
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I agree with that statement to an extent, yes you will lose water, fat, and muscle, but an inch is a lot, you aren't fat in those pics man. I'm not trying to be an ass, you seem like a cool guy, there is just so much bullshit floating around about arm measurments around here....
Yeah, I can see you are not being a dick, no worries. And when I say 'fat' I don't mean as in John Candy fat - just that with me, you can only see the top 4 ab muscles and that too, only faintly. I've got a bit of fat in the areas that don't show in those pics - lower abs and hips. I've got at least 10 lbs of fat in those areas alone. However, I'm quite lean in the arms and upper torso region. As someone pointed out, if I dieted down to contest shape, I won't weigh more than 180 - 185 tops and that drop of 35 - 40 lb will come from losing fat, muscle and water, all of which will bring my arms down by at least an inch and a half, if not 2 inches.
I've seen it time and again - people who are 'big' offseason shrink down big time when they diet for a contest and in a lot of cases, they are so hung up on being a certain weight that they end up sacrificing conditioning for the sake of what the scale reads. I myself don't care to compete cause if I did compete, I'd want to do it at the pro level, which would entail taking a drug cocktail that's comparable to what they take. I'm not interested in that and I'm even less interested in doing just small doses, cause I'm an extremist / all or nothing kind of person.
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Yeah, I can see you are not being a dick, no worries. And when I say 'fat' I don't mean as in John Candy fat - just that with me, you can only see the top 4 ab muscles and that too, only faintly. I've got a bit of fat in the areas that don't show in those pics - lower abs and hips. I've got at least 10 lbs of fat in those areas alone. However, I'm quite lean in the arms and upper torso region. As someone pointed out, if I dieted down to contest shape, I won't weigh more than 180 - 185 tops and that drop of 35 - 40 lb will come from losing fat, muscle and water, all of which will bring my arms down by at least an inch and a half, if not 2 inches.
I've seen it time and again - people who are 'big' offseason shrink down big time when they diet for a contest and in a lot of cases, they are so hung up on being a certain weight that they end up sacrificing conditioning for the sake of what the scale reads. I myself don't care to compete cause if I did compete, I'd want to do it at the pro level, which would entail taking a drug cocktail that's comparable to what they take. I'm not interested in that and I'm even less interested in doing just small doses, cause I'm an extremist / all or nothing kind of person.
Same here.
To impress normal people, a natural body is more than enough.
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Same here.
To impress normal people, a natural body is more than enough.
Exactly! Nearly all the girls I meet think I'm massive / "too big" (in their own words) and when I show some of them pics of Ronnie or Dorian, they get disgusted and say that doesn't even look human. To the average person, a guy with 17"+ arms even at around 15% bodyfat is huge. Here in Auckland where I live, there are tons of Polynesians who are genetically very gifted when it comes to carrying a lot of muscle naturally and being strong, although most of them are also pretty fat (25%+ bodyfat).
I do love the attention and all, but not to an extent that makes me want to take up juicing just to get more freakier. IMO, there's no point in juicing if you are not going to compete, cause anyone can build a respectable physique with a bit of hard work - it just takes time and a lot of patience - something most people don't have / want to invest, especially the current generation who want everything instantly. I've always been a very patient guy.
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Exactly! Nearly all the girls I meet think I'm massive / "too big" (in their own words) and when I show some of them pics of Ronnie or Dorian, they get disgusted and say that doesn't even look human. To the average person, a guy with 17"+ arms even at around 15% bodyfat is huge. Here in Auckland where I live, there are tons of Polynesians who are genetically very gifted when it comes to carrying a lot of muscle naturally and being strong, although most of them are also pretty fat (25%+ bodyfat).
I do love the attention and all, but not to an extent that makes me want to take up juicing just to get more freakier. IMO, there's no point in juicing if you are not going to compete, cause anyone can build a respectable physique with a bit of hard work - it just takes time and a lot of patience - something most people don't have / want to invest, especially the current generation who want everything instantly. I've always been a very patient guy.
Yes I've found this. Do you also get the thing where people say you're "big enough", or even "too big", then a couple of years later you're a bunch bigger and they use the exact same words? Kind of like, as long as you keep it proportional with each body part it won't look gross basically. People just envisage your chest and arms getting disproportionately huge, not even knowing what a delt is, or what quads are, fucking morons everywhere.
Almost as annoying are the people you mention who are like "right, I'm going to start training, what protein powder do I need to get big?". Then don't pay any attention to their diet and don't train with any consistency, then give up a few months later after spending £60 on pointless powders.
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It's amazing how delusional people on this site are.
Look at the Xmen-Thread, there are people here who think Hugh Jackman is on juice!!!
Clearly a juicer's body, lol!!
DK,
There were people here saying Daniel Craig was huge and must be juicing.
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DK,
There were people here saying Daniel Craig was huge and must be juicing.
Well, the tenor of the discussion was the he achieved his look in 12 weeks or so. I don't know how he looked before, and if he went from zero to hero it could well be, considering the short time.
On the other hand, his body is EASILY attainable naturally, and all that dumb shit of how steroids give you a certain skin tone that only steroid users can see is total utter bullshit.
Craig was not even special, just a guy working out. He didn't have a very low bf as well.
Roids, for THIS?? LMAO
(http://johnozed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/daniel_craig_300x400.jpg)
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Well, the tenor of the discussion was the he achieved his look in 12 weeks or so. I don't know how he looked before, and if he went from zero to hero it could well be, considering the short time.
On the other hand, his body is EASILY attainable naturally, and all that dumb shit of how steroids give you a certain skin tone that only steroid users can see is total utter bullshit.
Craig was not even special, just a guy working out. He didn't have a very low bf as well.
Roids, for THIS?? LMAO
I'm not big but don't believe a lot of people here work out or diet at all. Any above average or athletic physique earns juice comments. IMO, being in decent shape is more or less a lifestyle that includes regular exercise, proper diet, rest and occasional routine changes.
People should spend more time at the gym and less worrying about drugs and muscle worship.
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I'm not big but don't believe a lot of people here work out or diet at all. Any above average or athletic physique earns juice comments. IMO, being in decent shape is more or less a lifestyle that includes regular exercise, proper diet, rest and occasional routine changes.
People should spend more time at the gym and less worrying about drugs and muscle worship.
Spot on.
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ahahahahaha..
17 pages of 'fat panda' getting owned by dante, well, everyone actually.
thanks to dante now i know why you call yourself 'fat panda' instead of just 'panda'. jezus.
no wonder you don't think that physique is achievable- it's because you don't have a snowballs chance in hell of ever looking like that, drugs or not.
you are a fat troll who likes to think he's in shape who realistically is about 35-40% bf.
to look anything like the guy were debating you'd have to lose in excess of 100 pounds, provided there is any significant amount of muscle under that slop contained by the suit of fat that envelopes your body.
my suggestion to you would be to spend less time on the internet debating things you will never achieve and more time on the step mill.
hope this helps.
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fat panda you're an idiot, you think that naturals are stuck to looking like crap because they do not take drugs, moron.
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ahahahahaha..
17 pages of 'fat panda' getting owned by dante, well, everyone actually.
thanks to dante now i know why you call yourself 'fat panda' instead of just 'panda'. jezus.
no wonder you don't think that physique is achievable- it's because you don't have a snowballs chance in hell of ever looking like that, drugs or not.
you are a fat troll who likes to think he's in shape who realistically is about 35-40% bf.
to look anything like the guy were debating you'd have to lose in excess of 100 pounds, provided there is any significant amount of muscle under that slop contained by the suit of fat that envelopes your body.
my suggestion to you would be to spend less time on the internet debating things you will never achieve and more time on the step mill.
hope this helps.
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how can it be 17 pages of me getting owned off dante when he didn't post untill page 10 ?
so, dante calls me a fat alcoholic and that makes me a fat alcoholic ::)
if you had a brain cell it would be lonely.
dante is so fat he has fat rolls on his synthol filled shoulders ( not even obese powerlifters with hugh bowling ball shoulders have this), he has a 45-50" gut, has purple skin, discoloured blotches all over his body, his blood pressure is through the roof, he looks like shit and takes well over 1g of test + other goodies to look like this, he posts within 15 mins of every thread i mention him in, and you think I'VE been owned hahahahaha ::) oh brother.
as for you, where are your pics then ? show me what a real bodybuilder looks like ? i'm waiting............and waiting..............and waiting................. ................and waiting................. ......................
well ?
no thought not.
run along. :-*
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I'm not big but don't believe a lot of people here work out or diet at all. Any above average or athletic physique earns juice comments. IMO, being in decent shape is more or less a lifestyle that includes regular exercise, proper diet, rest and occasional routine changes.
People should spend more time at the gym and less worrying about drugs and muscle worship.
you think people are natural because your niave about people and also delsusional about the way you personall look. take a photograph of yourself and then compare i to the photos which getbig (as a whole) say are juiced up. you will quickly understand the major difference between a natural body and a juiced body.
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Kiwi, vince stated in contest shape his arms were only 19.5, so you think at your current state and his dieted down state, your arms are only .4 inches smaller than his?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men181.jpg)
Damn Vince is obviously teasing us with saying that.
I have seen his arm at his peak(1995). And they were really huge and even slightly bigger or same as Nasser.
No way that they are 19.5. They are obviously more than 20inchs easily.
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you think people are natural because your niave about people and also delsusional about the way you personall look. take a photograph of yourself and then compare i to the photos which getbig (as a whole) say are juiced up. you will quickly understand the major difference between a natural body and a juiced body.
Put up your own photo.
I'm definitely not big but when you guys start putting up pics of every above average body and calling them juiced it's just plain silly. Yes, a lot of people juice but too much of the mentality here is lazy.
My personal interest is in looking/feeling/being healthy while presenting a balanced physique. I have a long way to go but am in decent shape. :)
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Put up your own photo.
I'm definitely not big but when you guys start putting up pics of every above average body and calling them juiced it's just plain silly. Yes, a lot of people juice but too much of the mentality here is lazy.
My personal interest is in looking/feeling/being healthy while presenting a balanced physique. I have a long way to go but am in decent shape. :)
i didnt ask you to post a photo. just take one , shirtless with shorts pulled up, and then compare ON YOUR OWN to those pictures which a majority of people here said were juiced.
personally ive given up on caring about whether or not somebodies natural..of course ill have my own opinion..but im not gonna argue with somebody about whether o not they are... if you look good = you look good..regardless of juice or no juice..
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i didnt ask you to post a photo. just take one , shirtless with shorts pulled up, and then compare ON YOUR OWN to those pictures which a majority of people here said were juiced.
personally ive given up on caring about whether or not somebodies natural..of course ill have my own opinion..but im not gonna argue with somebody about whether o not they are... if you look good = you look good..regardless of juice or no juice..
My pics are on the Y. I'm specifically talking about people like Daniel Craig, 'spiderman' and so on. Some people here are convinced a decent body cannot be achieved without drugs and I disagree.
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My pics are on the Y. I'm specifically talking about people like Daniel Craig, 'spiderman' and so on. Some people here are convinced a decent body cannot be achieved without drugs and I disagree.
exactly, those people are idiots, they think naturals are stuck to look like crap hahahahaha
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My pics are on the Y. I'm specifically talking about people like Daniel Craig, 'spiderman' and so on. Some people here are convinced a decent body cannot be achieved without drugs and I disagree.
well, the reaosn why IMO daniel craig juiced was because of the SPEED at which he attained his body (without adding any fat, mind you)...not the actualy body he had. a natural could easily get to look lik craig did, however not in 3 months time withou adding any fat from where craig was 3 months before tha. the natural human body doesnt grow that fast, especially not without gaining fat.
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well, the reaosn why IMO daniel craig juiced was because of the SPEED at which he attained his body (without adding any fat, mind you)...not the actualy body he had. a natural could easily get to look lik craig did, however not in 3 months time withou adding any fat from where craig was 3 months before tha. the natural human body doesnt grow that fast, especially not without gaining fat.
he sure looks like he juiced ::)
you're a clown
(http://corriecanuck.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/daniel_craig_shirtless_2.jpg)
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well, the reaosn why IMO daniel craig juiced was because of the SPEED at which he attained his body (without adding any fat, mind you)...not the actualy body he had. a natural could easily get to look lik craig did, however not in 3 months time withou adding any fat from where craig was 3 months before tha. the natural human body doesnt grow that fast, especially not without gaining fat.
that's a point. everything else isn't.
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he sure looks like he juiced ::)
you're a clown
(http://corriecanuck.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/daniel_craig_shirtless_2.jpg)
i looked better than craig when i was still natural. im not saying natural dont look like craig. im saying craig got there TOO FAST to be natural. it took me 3 years aof intense training an HIGH PROTEIN ( ;) ) (FOR ALL WHO DONT KNOW 'J GEY' DOESNT BELIEVE IN PROTEIN') not 3 months...... but actually if you look at craig his body has a juicer look to it, if you knew what that was...juice tends to give the skin and muscles a disticnt kind of look, even in small doseages
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that's a point. everything else isn't.
i think it was what most meant, to say that build is unattainable naturaly would be redeculous.. its just the speed at whic he attained it..
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i think it was what most meant, to say that build is unattainable naturaly would be redeculous.. its just the speed at whic he attained it..
i can't say that.
Most actors have been working out for many years, i haven't seen a "before" pic of craig.
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i looked better than craig when i was still natural. im not saying natural dont look like craig. im saying craig got there TOO FAST to be natural. it took me 3 years aof intense training an HIGH PROTEIN ( ;) ) (FOR ALL WHO DONT KNOW 'J GEY' DOESNT BELIEVE IN PROTEIN') not 3 months...... but actually if you look at craig his body has a juicer look to it, if you knew what that was...juice tends to give the skin and muscles a disticnt kind of look, even in small doseages
maybe that's your problem, it took you 3 years to look like that? on your "high protein"? ::)
I looked like that before even touching a weight
I believe in consumption of 1 gram per kg of bodyweight in protein you believe in consuming 500 grams and excessive amounts.
Tell us, all these years of your high protein, what did you get from it? you would have received the same results with just a fraction the amount of protein.
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maybe that's your problem, it took you 3 years to look like that? on your "high protein"? ::)
I looked like that before even touching a weight
I believe in consumption of 1 gram per kg of bodyweight in protein you believe in consuming 500 grams and excessive amounts.
Tell us, all these years of your high protein, what did you get from it? you would have received the same results with just a fraction the amount of protein.
post a picture of yourself lookin like daniel craig. ::)
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i can't say that.
Most actors have been working out for many years, i haven't seen a "before" pic of craig.
i believ it was posted in that original thread. IIRC he was very very skinny.
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All drugs. seriously.
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All drugs. seriously.
Try hard work for prolonged periods of time. Seriously
It wouldn't take long to get in shape and even add a little muscle if the will is there coupled with an effective trainer, diet and plenty of free time.
Especially true if the guy's not used to it and doesn't work out reguarly, the change can be dramatic.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
I think you're being Naive ,in thinking we're all a bunch of homos like yourself..
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Fat panda you look atrocious. just like a regular fat guy
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as for you, where are your pics then ? show me what a real bodybuilder looks like ? i'm waiting............and waiting..............and waiting................. ................and waiting................. ......................
well fatbody, why don't you post your pics and show us what a real bodybuilder looks like, i mean afterall...
i know many naturals that are over 200 lbs ripped without gear. i am one myself, and know many more. weight is just a number, bones, water, etc can all weight more or less depending on the individual.
if the above statement is true, then you should have NO DIFFICULTY in believing the guy pictured on the first page is natural.
either that, or you are a lying sack of shit.
pick your poison, sweetheart.
thanks for playing.
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well fatbody, why don't you post your pics and show us what a real bodybuilder looks like, i mean afterall...
if the above statement is true, then you should have NO DIFFICULTY in believing the guy pictured on the first page is natural.
either that, or you are a lying sack of shit.
pick your poison, sweetheart.
thanks for playing.
hmmm its amusing to me that you come to that conclusion because of a post i made over 2 years ago ::)
you are clearly a retard who does not look past what adonis tells you. this is the same adonis that i owned so badly that he decided to scrawl through my 2500 posts to find that over 2 years old quote to try to fool spastics like yourself - clearly when dealing with simple minds like your that is enough ::)
yes over 2 years ago i was over 200 lbs and in shape - but nowhere near the guy on the beaches level ( as he is clearly on gear, which anyone with a brain would see - i.e. not you). since then i tore both my rotators and ate like a pig. Now over 2 years on i have put on fat and and lost muscle due to no weight lifting for around a year.
while natural i have been fat and held great amounts of muscle, in shape with decent amounts of muscle and skinny with little muscle - you would not understand how this works however as you have probably not gained an ounce of muscle since you started working out.
now run along and let the adults talk.
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who said that the guy in pic was natural.
maybe he had average genetics but lots of gear?
Apart from being lean and having a great chest he is nothing special IMO. Looks great dont get me wrong but he is hardly gonna have J rod pissing hios pants
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Fat panda you look atrocious. just like a regular fat guy
??? listen harry potter with fat tits you can hardly talk.
delusion personified, a powerlifter without a brain. ::)
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I have done PLing i dont claim to be a PLer at all.
I have LLB after my name so i cant complain.
What the fuck does posting that pic prove anyway. You are wearing a suit...seriously its doesnt make sense
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anyone got a link to fatpandas pics
dude is spouting some shit
without backing it up
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yes over 2 years ago i was over 200 lbs and in shape - but nowhere near the guy on the beaches level ( as he is clearly on gear, which anyone with a brain would see - i.e. not you). since then i tore both my rotators and ate like a pig. Now over 2 years on i have put on fat and and lost muscle due to no weight lifting for around a year.
ahahahaha...
sorry, cupcake, you said that you were 200 pounds ripped.
the guy pictured on the beach, depending on his height would be i'd estimate anywhere from 175-190.
that being said if you were truly 200 pounds and ripped would would easily best the physique displayed by the aforementioned gentleman.
surely you must have a pic of this 200 pound ripped physique?
we'll understand if you don't.
;)
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This is seriouslt what his pic looks like
(http://www.martinlawrence.com/scavullo/scavullo-lg/Luciano-Pavarotti.jpg)
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anyone got a link to fatpandas pics
dude is spouting some shit
without backing it up
dante's post half way down the page.
you can see the muscle under the suit bulging out from his 200 pound ripped physique.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252133.250
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This is seriouslt what his pic looks like
(http://www.martinlawrence.com/scavullo/scavullo-lg/Luciano-Pavarotti.jpg)
how fvcking dumb can you be. that pic was posted in an ironic homage to digshit himself
like his huuuuugee pic below
harry don't you have a book to read or a train to spot ?
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dante's post half way down the page.
you can see the muscle under the suit bulging out from his 200 pound ripped physique.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252133.250
again retards anonymous ::) i have never said i was 200 in that pic.
can you read? if you can perhaps you can try to keep up with threads and actually read them before commenting on them instead of getting manipulated by the puppeteer adonis. - whos mind i own completely.
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wheres that pic of you no one ?
you know the one where you own that guy on the beach ?
i'm still waiting....... ::)
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fat panda also has a fat face to match his gut.
seriously dante is much leaner facially
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Fatpanda is clearly living the dream ::)
its funny how these bitches who can't do shit in the gym
have to hate on all natural bb
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haha whatever fatguy.
it cant be hard for you to even post an arm shot
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Fatpanda is clearly living the dream ::)
its funny how these bitches who can't do shit in the gym
have to hate on all natural bb
hmmm team a23 member joining in with the panda bashing hahahahaha
just how many getbig minds do i own.
oh and where your pics oh natural wonder ::)
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hmmm team a23 member joining in with the panda bashing hahahahaha
just how many getbig minds do i own.
oh and where your pics oh natural wonder ::)
you are the one melting down all over the place
i don't claim to be anything special tubby
i have posted pics on here
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haha whatever fatguy.
it cant be hard for you to even post an arm shot
it can't be hard for you to buy more stylish glasses, and a decent haircut, but you don't.
however, no its not hard for me to post an arm pic, in fact i will post a full body front relaxed if i get the same from:
alex23, adonis, quaker, and wiggs.
however they wont as all are too embarassed.
i was challenged, i met the challenge they have backed down.
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all have posted pics before.
do you need ur daddy to hold ur dick when u take a piss?
brutal evasive tactics...stop being a fag and post a pic. what are you afraid of?
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all have posted pics before.
do you need ur daddy to hold ur dick when u take a piss?
brutal evasive tactics...stop being a fag and post a pic. what are you afraid of?
he looks like shit
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he looks like pavarotti...except fatter
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you are the one melting down all over the place
i don't claim to be anything special tubby
i have posted pics on here
melting ? hahahaha i'm having great fun.
i am being attacked by no less than 12 members on here at the one time - 6 of which i have owned beyind belief, the rest just argue with no basis of fact or real challenge.
melting is when someone goes through my past 2500 posts to dig up a 2 year old quote, before realising it was useles, then hunting down personal info instead in a vain attempt to scare me.
:-*
by the way, where are your pics then big stuff?
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why wont you post a pic?
Are you scared? embarassed? afraid? what?
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melting ? hahahaha i'm having great fun.
i am being attacked by no less than 12 members on here at the one time - 6 of which i have owned beyind belief, the rest just argue with no basis of fact or real challenge.
melting is when someone goes through my past 2500 posts to dig up a 2 year old quote, before realising it was useles, then hunting down personal info instead in a vain attempt to scare me.
:-*
by the way, where are your pics then big stuff?
shut the fuck up you look like a warm cup of donkey shit
you can't lose fat no matter how much drugs you take, you're doomed to be obese for life bitch
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here
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Now that's one big arm broskie!
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all have posted pics before.
do you need ur daddy to hold ur dick when u take a piss?
brutal evasive tactics...stop being a fag and post a pic. what are you afraid of?
i fear nothing online ::)
i simply played them at their own game.
a challenge was set - i answered, and will post the pic if they each match it - this is fair.
the ball is in their court.
2 of the 4 have disappeared, the other 2 keep posting old pics covering parts of their body.
so hows that dungeons and dragons working out for you harry ?
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shut the fuck up you look like a warm cup of donkey shit
you can't lose fat no matter how much drugs you take, you're doomed to be obese for life bitch
shut your mouth homo.
why don't you go back to your real account AXA.
hasn't avesher killed you yet?
you still insulting women online tough guy?
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Now that's one big arm broskie!
you are quite the beast yourself SS
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you requested pics as a defensive move.
have you any pics you will post.
seem to be pretty scared or embarassed or you would have just posted a pic you dork and it would have been over with.
I wasnt included in teh challenge. I challenge you to post a pic of your physique to prove you are not the cement mixer in the suit below.
The ball is in your court...
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HAHAHAHA! who's that goof ball?
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you requested pics as a defensive move.
have you any pics you will post.
seem to be pretty scared or embarassed or you would have just posted a pic you dork and it would have been over with.
I wasnt included in teh challenge. I challenge you to post a pic of your physique to prove you are not the cement mixer in the suit below.
The ball is in your court...
the ball is in quakers and wiggs court. the challenge has already been set try to keep up penfold.
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Yes that challenge is between you lot.
I am issuing one to yourself from me and me alone.
the ball is in your court. Do you accept or refuse my challenge?
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the ball is in quakers and wiggs court. the challenge has already been set try to keep up penfold.
hahaha what a bitch
start a new account princess
you wont recover
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HAHAHAHA! who's that goof ball?
Fat Panda
the little bitch who thinks everybody is on drugs
he has been on numerous drugs to lose fat but has failed!
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hahaha what a bitch
start a new account princess
you wont recover
yes your monster 19" pythons are scaring me off ::)
dream on.
Fat Panda
the little bitch who thinks everybody is on drugs
he has been on numerous drugs to lose fat but has failed!
the whole of getbig are in agreement that you are not on gear you twink.
mr last place in mr getbig ::)
oh brother.
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Fatpanda...do you accept or refuse?
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Fat Panda
the little bitch who thinks everybody is on drugs
he has been on numerous drugs to lose fat but has failed!
He has asian girl hands and he's shops at fat and short from the look of that jacket.
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yes your monster 19" pythons are scaring me off ::)
dream on.
the whole of getbig are in agreement that you are not on gear you twink.
mr last place in mr getbig ::)
oh brother.
meltdown ::)
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Fatpanda...do you accept or refuse?
you must be dumber than i thought.
why would i post more pics when i'm currently owning wiggs, quaker, fatalex, and apenis by waiting on them first.
what trains have you spotted today ?
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you must be dumber than i thought.
why would i post more pics when i'm currently owning wiggs, quaker, fatalex, and apenis by waiting on them first.
what trains have you spotted today ?
how are you owning them
by being a little bitch ???
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i am not wiggs, alex, adonis or quaker.
this challenge is between us.
what a little bitch
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how are you owning them
by being a little bitch ???
i wouldn't expect a simpleton like you to understand.
perhaps if you read the thread, you might. ::)
i have never in my life came across so many fools on one thread.
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i wouldn't expect a simpleton like you to understand.
perhaps if you read the thread, you might. ::)
i have never in my life came across so many fools on one thread.
i understand that you are a bitch
brutal lack of self awareness
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i am not wiggs, alex, adonis or quaker.
this challenge is between us.
what a little bitch
hmmm yes i'll post pics to make you happy while letting the 4 of them off the hook.
there are more people on getbig and the bb internet community that want quaker to post a pic than me.
this is about more than you penfold, so go back to your train set.
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i understand that you are a bitch
brutal lack of self awareness
hahahahahahaha calm down superstar, no need to take it personally.
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hmmm yes i'll post pics to make you happy while letting the 4 of them off the hook.
there are more people on getbig and the bb internet community that want quaker to post a pic than me.
this is about more than you penfold, so go back to your train set.
translation= i am a bitch and will use any excuse not too post a pic
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letting them off teh hook....what are you a school mistress?
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translation= i am a bitch and will use any excuse not too post a pic
(http://notexactlyrocketscience.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/nuclear_fireball.jpg)
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fatpanda = destroyed
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letting them off teh hook....what are you a school mistress?
hahha dude, you look awesome. This fat abomination is a joke.
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fatpanda = destroyed
hahha dude, you look awesome. This fat abomination is a joke.
::) yes i'm sure i wont recover from this devastating attack. ::)
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::) yes i'm sure i wont recover from this devastating attack. ::)
shut up you fat infidel
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u were bitching about being attacked by no less than 12 people lol
clean out ur girl for fucks sake
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shut up you fat infidel
such genuis, such craft, so many bright minds working together to bring down the great panda - i won't recover ::)
u were bitching about being attacked by no less than 12 people lol
clean out ur #### for fucks sake
epic comprehention skills ::)
isn't it past your bed time penfold ?
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such genuis, such craft, so many bright minds working together to bring down the great panda - i won't recover ::)
epic comprehention skills ::)
isn't it past your bed time penfold ?
Oh the irony...
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This thread isn't all that entertaining. You guys need to put some more effort in.
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fat grampa,
still waiting for this pic...or wait, lemme guess- your camera was broken...
i know many naturals that are over 200 lbs ripped without gear. i am one myself, and know many more. weight is just a number, bones, water, etc can all weight more or less depending on the individual.
tick tock.
tick tock.
just admit you're a fat, lying sack of shit.
seriously.
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wait a second is he saying he is clean? He said he was jacking all sorts of juice halfway down in this thread previously
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=242793.msg3421377#msg3421377
people who say such things as seva ...are usually people who are stupid.
seva you did respond to gear, your strength went throught the roof - and bodyweight increased - but it looks mostly bloat, perhaps if you increased your protein levels from a bar of chocolate and bowl of soup you would have grown more - you can only blame yourself, not genetics - if you didnlt respond to gear your strength wouldn;t have went up, nor your weight.
seva im 5'11" and in that pic i'm around 290 (WITHOUT EVET TOUCHING GEAR) - trust me i have built a significan amount of mass, i'm not ripped by any means , in fact i have never been below 8-10%. However even after a year of no lifting after torn rotators i blow you away.
i respect people who do get ripped, i know how hard it is to be dedicated enough in your diet, workouts, cardio etc I gave dc a hard time about diet, but i understand where he is coming from, sometimes the cheesecake calls
i have used gear, and am still tinkering and experimenting with various compounds - anavar at 50mg a day just now.
i have tried plenty of others too, dbol, winny, primo, equi, dnp, t3, clen, and i will be testing how i respond to test and deca very shortly.
I have already found what works in the gym, lifting wise, and nutritionally what is needed to grow, and get ripped while keeping muscle.
soon i will be finished with my experiments and see exactly how big and ripped i can become.
however it is very very clear to me from my experience with what i have tired already, i will grow and grow easily. i do not want to reach pro level size, but i will certainly reach a level i am happy with, and know that if a chose it i could achieve hat level of mass.
i understand how it's easy to blame genetics for a lack of discepline, but be under no illusions - it is your/my own lack of discepine or fake gear or poor workouts, or poor nutrition thats the problem.
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Bigmc would rather fight cyber battles than spend any time with his new kid. Great dad, providing "ownings" for his offspring instead of meals, or clothes::)
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fat panda also has a fat face to match his gut.
seriously dante is much leaner facially
so this is fat panda hmmmm
... not gonna rip on him honestly from the way he typed... and the way he just start callin people liars... and drug users i thought he was early 20's max
turns out he is a middle aged man... who speaks on behalf of the billions of men on planet earth who is natural and who is not..
how sad.....
very sad...
epic jealousy and hate
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well, the reaosn why IMO daniel craig juiced was because of the SPEED at which he attained his body (without adding any fat, mind you)...not the actualy body he had. a natural could easily get to look lik craig did, however not in 3 months time withou adding any fat from where craig was 3 months before tha. the natural human body doesnt grow that fast, especially not without gaining fat.
I agree with Candy here..he is nothing special to look at but the rate at how he changed that does say he has had some "help"
AAS , clen etc have been part of hollywood for years its no secret , when an actor or actress needs help getting into shape fast they use its not rocket sceince
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wait a second is he saying he is clean? He said he was jacking all sorts of juice halfway down in this thread previously
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=242793.msg3421377#msg3421377
people who say such things as seva ...are usually people who are stupid.
seva you did respond to gear, your strength went throught the roof - and bodyweight increased - but it looks mostly bloat, perhaps if you increased your protein levels from a bar of chocolate and bowl of soup you would have grown more - you can only blame yourself, not genetics - if you didnlt respond to gear your strength wouldn;t have went up, nor your weight.
seva im 5'11" and in that pic i'm around 290 (WITHOUT EVET TOUCHING GEAR) - trust me i have built a significan amount of mass, i'm not ripped by any means , in fact i have never been below 8-10%. However even after a year of no lifting after torn rotators i blow you away.
i respect people who do get ripped, i know how hard it is to be dedicated enough in your diet, workouts, cardio etc I gave dc a hard time about diet, but i understand where he is coming from, sometimes the cheesecake calls
i have used gear, and am still tinkering and experimenting with various compounds - anavar at 50mg a day just now.
i have tried plenty of others too, dbol, winny, primo, equi, dnp, t3, clen, and i will be testing how i respond to test and deca very shortly.
I have already found what works in the gym, lifting wise, and nutritionally what is needed to grow, and get ripped while keeping muscle.
soon i will be finished with my experiments and see exactly how big and ripped i can become.
however it is very very clear to me from my experience with what i have tired already, i will grow and grow easily. i do not want to reach pro level size, but i will certainly reach a level i am happy with, and know that if a chose it i could achieve hat level of mass.
i understand how it's easy to blame genetics for a lack of discepline, but be under no illusions - it is your/my own lack of discepine or fake gear or poor workouts, or poor nutrition thats the problem.
this fat retard tells more stories than Walt Disney.
first he claims to be 200 pounds ripped, then here he says he's never been lower than 8%.
then he claims to be natty, now here he brags about his use.
::)
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I agree with Candy here..he is nothing special to look at but the rate at how he changed that does say he has had some "help"
AAS , clen etc have been part of hollywood for years its no secret , when an actor or actress needs help getting into shape fast they use its not rocket sceince
Candy is bang on, and so are you.
Problems with Getbig people:
1: They assume that only monsters take roids when many people take them for endurance ( distance runners)
2: They fail to understand the importance of time. Sure, over 5 yrs someone can build that. but from nothing to that in 10 weeks? lol
3: They mostly look like complete shit and from their computers like to mock and belittle excellent, muscular physiques of actors and models when they themselves look like disgusting fat shit and not half as good.
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fat grampa,
still waiting for this pic...or wait, lemme guess- your camera was broken...
tick tock.
tick tock.
just admit you're a fat, lying sack of shit.
seriously.
sweet jesus you're dumb.
look at the date on that quote ::)
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wait a second is he saying he is clean? He said he was jacking all sorts of juice halfway down in this thread previously
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=242793.msg3421377#msg3421377
people who say such things as seva ...are usually people who are stupid.
seva you did respond to gear, your strength went throught the roof - and bodyweight increased - but it looks mostly bloat, perhaps if you increased your protein levels from a bar of chocolate and bowl of soup you would have grown more - you can only blame yourself, not genetics - if you didnlt respond to gear your strength wouldn;t have went up, nor your weight.
seva im 5'11" and in that pic i'm around 290 (WITHOUT EVET TOUCHING GEAR) - trust me i have built a significan amount of mass, i'm not ripped by any means , in fact i have never been below 8-10%. However even after a year of no lifting after torn rotators i blow you away.
i respect people who do get ripped, i know how hard it is to be dedicated enough in your diet, workouts, cardio etc I gave dc a hard time about diet, but i understand where he is coming from, sometimes the cheesecake calls
i have used gear, and am still tinkering and experimenting with various compounds - anavar at 50mg a day just now.
i have tried plenty of others too, dbol, winny, primo, equi, dnp, t3, clen, and i will be testing how i respond to test and deca very shortly.
I have already found what works in the gym, lifting wise, and nutritionally what is needed to grow, and get ripped while keeping muscle.
soon i will be finished with my experiments and see exactly how big and ripped i can become.
however it is very very clear to me from my experience with what i have tired already, i will grow and grow easily. i do not want to reach pro level size, but i will certainly reach a level i am happy with, and know that if a chose it i could achieve hat level of mass.
i understand how it's easy to blame genetics for a lack of discepline, but be under no illusions - it is your/my own lack of discepine or fake gear or poor workouts, or poor nutrition thats the problem.
please stop embarassing yourself - check the date out on that quote also ::)
you are clutching at straws.
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sweet jesus you're dumb.
look at the date on that quote ::)
what does the date of the quote have to do with the fact you claimed to be 200 pounds ripped?
surely you have a picture of such an accomplishment?
you, fatboy, are a liar.
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what does the date of the quote have to do with the fact you claimed to be 200 pounds ripped?
surely you have a picture of such an accomplishment?
you, fatboy, are a liar.
8% is ripped in my opinion.
not competition ripped, but healthy ripped.
AS I STATE IN MY POSTS YOU STUPID girl
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND DEBATE/INSULT CHALLENGE ME IN ANYWAY, PLEASE ATTEMPT TO ACTUALLY READ THE POSTS YOU ARE USING ::)
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8% is ripped in my opinion.
not competition ripped, but healthy ripped.
AS I STATE IN MY POSTS YOU STUPID ####
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND DEBATE/INSULT CHALLENGE ME IN ANYWAY, PLEASE ATTEMPT TO ACTUALLY READ THE POSTS YOU ARE USING ::)
pics? thought not.
you are a liar.
post the pics, lumpy- seriously- so we can mock and laugh at you in unison.
you tell so many lies you don't know where reality ends and your little fantasy world begins.
let me help you..
reality: 290 pound fat, slovenly liar.
fantasy: 200 pounds ripped.
hope this helps.
(http://dietsexplained.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat-bastard1.jpg)
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pics? thought not.
you are a liar.
post the pics, lumpy- seriously- so we can mock and laugh at you in unison.
you tell so many lies you don't know where reality ends and your little fantasy world begins.
let me help you..
reality: 290 pound fat, slovenly, liar, somewhat resemblant of 'fat bastard' in the pic dante posted of you.
fantasy: 200 pounds ripped.
hope this helps.
reality - i've been 290 fat with lots of muscle
reality - i've been over 200 @ 8% with muscle
reality - i've been 147 @ 8% with little muscle
realty - you = fool
reality - arguing with a retard like you lowers my i.q.
reality - you are clutching at straws.
reality - you have posted no pics of yourself.
reality - i have posted more pics than you
reality - you don't workout
reality - you are homosexual
reality - i'm done wasting my time with you
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reality - i've been 290 fat with lots of muscle
reality - i've been over 200 @ 8% with muscle
reality - i've been 147 @ 8% with little muscle
realty - you = fool
reality - arguing with a retard like you lowers my i.q.
reality - you are clutching at straws.
reality - you have posted no pics of yourself.
reality - i have posted more pics than you
reality - you don't workout
reality - you are homosexual
reality - i'm done wasting my time with you
Reality - You're a fat liar
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such genuis, such craft, so many bright minds working together to bring down the great panda - i won't recover ::)
epic comprehention skills ::)
isn't it past your bed time penfold ?
epic misspelling of the word comprehension when trying to own someone
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Are you guys implying "fatpanda" is not a panda, just fat? ??? ???
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It really hasn't been your week has it fatpanda? ;D
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So has "fatpoofta" posted any pics?
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So has "fatpoofta" posted any pics?
Here ya go:
(http://www.winkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/what-your-cyber-mate-may-really-look-like.jpg)
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Here ya go:
(http://www.winkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/what-your-cyber-mate-may-really-look-like.jpg)
i told you dk, i am not that ripped or squadfathers gimmick ;DIt really hasn't been your week has it fatpanda? ;D
nor yours, i'm still waiting on that pic big guy.epic misspelling of the word comprehension when trying to own someone
epic not understanding that comprehension means understanding and not spelling ::)
that is owned.
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why don't we all just whip out our cocks and whack them around a little?
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i know many naturals that are over 200 lbs ripped without gear. i am one myself
surely you must have a picture of yourself in this 'ripped' condition, fatboy?
what is it like to have to tell lies to feel like you're accepted in the eyes of people on a message board?
how lonely and desperate a life do you lead? do you have a wife or a girlfriend? ? is she morbidly obese too?
i almost feel sorry for you, lardo.
(http://www.alanjohns.fsnet.co.uk/goldmember/fat-bastard.jpg)
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reality - i've been 290 fat with lots of muscle lie
reality - i've been over 200 @ 8% with muscle lie
reality - i've been 147 @ 8% with little muscle believable
realty - you = fool aw, hurt your feelings?
reality - arguing with a retard like you lowers my i.q. impossible
reality - you are clutching at straws. i'm only quoting posts you have made in the past
reality - you have posted no pics of yourself. true
reality - i have posted more pics than you not something i'd brag about all things considering
reality - you don't workout lie
reality - you are homosexual ask your mom
reality - i'm done wasting my time with you thats why you keep posting ::)
thanks for playing!
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i told you dk, i am not that ripped or squadfathers gimmick ;D
nor yours, i'm still waiting on that pic big guy.
epic not understanding that comprehension means understanding and not spelling ::)
that is owned.
comprehension meaning spelling and also understanding is spelt the same.
I seen that pic when it was a thumbnail of his fat face.
Maybe fat panda looks like frank zane. he was ripped at 200lbs
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how can a guy looking like that tell anyone what they can or cant be without ..
when muscle building genetics were being given out.... he was a the 4.99 all you can eat buffet.what a loser both physivcally and mentally. no wonder he is full of the emotion jealousy
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fat panda is a GROSS LARDO i want to puke
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i know many naturals that are over 200 lbs ripped without gear. i am one myself,
8% is ripped in my opinion.
dearest fatbody,
would you be kind enough to answer the following questions:
do you have any pics of yourself in this condition, other than the one that has been posted where you look like a tuba player? a yes or no answer will suffice.
how the fuck does a fat, slovenly lardass such as yourself feel it is appropriate to give advise to others on training and nutrition when you look the way you do?
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dearest fatbody,
would you be kind enough to answer the following questions:
do you have any pics of yourself in this condition, other than the one that has been posted where you look like a tuba player? a yes or no answer will suffice.
how the fuck does a fat, slovenly lardass such as yourself feel it is appropriate to give advise to others on training and nutrition when you look the way you do?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha
excellent post
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dearest fatbody,
would you be kind enough to answer the following questions:
do you have any pics of yourself in this condition, other than the one that has been posted where you look like a tuba player? a yes or no answer will suffice.
how the fuck does a fat, slovenly lardass such as yourself feel it is appropriate to give advise to others on training and nutrition when you look the way you do?
yes i do.
but no pictures of me ever could compare to this picture of you ::) sweet jesus you don't even lift.
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dearest fatbody,
do you have any pics of yourself in this condition, other than the one that has been posted where you look like a tuba player? a yes or no answer will suffice.
That made me laugh out loud. I am so stealing that line. :D
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fatpanda on the verge of suicide
its painful to watch
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yes i do.
but no pictures of me ever could compare to this picture of you ::) sweet jesus you don't even lift.
MOOBIES!!!!!
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fatpanda on the verge of suicide
its painful to watch
not really, I'd love to see him do that
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fatpanda on the verge of suicide
its painful to watch
hahahahaha ::)
i think not, owning tiny tits is quite amusing for me.
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not really, I'd love to see him do that
BA BA BA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOM
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BA BA BA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOM
hahahahaha sad thing is you will never even achieve that clown's photoshopped physique you hideous obese shrek
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hahahahaha sad thing is you will never even achieve that clown's photoshopped physique you hideous obese shrek
hahahahaha always melting within mins of me posting your skinny 120lbs pics hahahahaha
BOOOOM
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hahahahaha always melting within mins of me posting your skinny 120lbs pics hahahahaha
BOOOOM
ROFL, post his pictures all you want
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yes i do.
but no pictures of me ever could compare to this picture of you ::) sweet jesus you don't even lift.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252133.0;attach=294361;image)
dude!!!! that guy could easely look like the beach guy if he dieted down.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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dude!!!! that guy could easely look like the beach guy if he dieted down.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
hahahaha no better i'm sure he said ::)
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here
Thats a good looking 19 inch arm
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Thats a good looking 19 inch arm
do you have an arm fetish ? or are you a canabal perhaps?
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yes i do.
but no pictures of me ever could compare to this picture of you ::) sweet jesus you don't even lift.
ahahaha.
you wish that were me, fatbody- it would make being you ever so more easy to deal with.
still waiting for an answer...
dearest fatbody,
would you be kind enough to answer the following questions:
do you have any pics of yourself in this condition, other than the one that has been posted where you look like a tuba player? a yes or no answer will suffice.
how the fuck does a fat, slovenly lardass such as yourself feel it is appropriate to give advise to others on training and nutrition when you look the way you do?
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ahahaha.
you wish that were me, fatbody- it would make being you ever so more easy to deal with.
still waiting for an answer...
hahahahahaha sure it isn't hahahahahaha
i'd argue some more but there is no point trying to educate a man with in IQ in the low 50's with a physique like this
BOOOOOOM
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That's not "no one". It's some guy named ERyanB, or something like that. Posts on bodybuilding.com. He came here and got right ornery about the whole fiasco. Even called the Chimps out.
Go check out old threads from a year ago or so -- was a good saga.
It wasn't a year ago - it was in March - April this year.
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That's not "no one". It's some guy named ERyanB, or something like that. Posts on bodybuilding.com. He came here and got right ornery about the whole fiasco. Even called the Chimps out.
Go check out old threads from a year ago or so -- was a good saga.
x2
Also made epic_pencil look a right cock for constantly posting the pics claiming it was "no one" when it wasnt..
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That's not "no one". It's some guy named ERyanB, or something like that. Posts on bodybuilding.com. He came here and got right ornery about the whole fiasco. Even called the Chimps out.
Go check out old threads from a year ago or so -- was a good saga.
i know now, kiwol told me, i just find it amusing that he won't post his real pic.
i post this one as it annoys him and makes him melt.
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i know now, kiwol told me, i just find it amusing that he won't post his real pic.
i post this one as it annoys him and makes him melt.
yeah, lots.
by the way, is this the pic you claim to be 200 pounds and ripped in?
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yeah, lots.
by the way, is this the pic you claim to be 200 pounds and ripped in?
please post my quote where i said i was 200 in that pic ?
is that more lies no one hahahaha
epic waste of space.
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No one destroyed that guy. It was actually quite brutal towards the end there. You could tell the kid was on the ropes in over his head, and he just kept getting pounded. Like watching a big tuna fight on a line, only to tire out, get reeled into the boat, and then clubbed on the head.
haha ;D
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Some of you guys need to get around more......MANY college football players have a better physique than this with NO gear.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
You don't need AAS to achieve a beach body. What you do need is a clean diet, discipline and a consistant training regimen geared for the beach bod look.
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You don't need AAS to achieve a beach body. What you do need is a clean diet, discipline and a consistant training regimen geared for the beach bod look.
You also need to be 5'8 or less to be that thick and n ot on sauce and still have abs and legs like that.
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I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY
Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......
Am i being naive?
it can be done i looked like tha tin high school and i was natural for at least another 5 years after that
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Some of you guys need to get around more......MANY college football players have a better physique than this with NO gear.
That's because they follow your advice and your routines, Coach! ;)
Which are...what?
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you are a direct result of the dose of test that is running in you ,,the fella in the picture talked about on first thread runs 500mg-750mg testosterone a week,,this look is not achievable naturally
end of case
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you are a direct result of the dose of test that is running in you ,,the fella in the picture talked about on first thread runs 500mg-750mg testosterone a week,,this look is not achievable naturally
end of case
Spot on, like your prediction of the US election.
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the diff is that i wanted your country to fail,,,and as you can see ,,,it did :) and its going into hell coming february ,,bring you back into your poor spineless reality,,you havent seen nothing yet,,coming february you have hell waiting for you in america for long long time,,,so get ready for that ,,thats the best thing that coulsd happen ,,everything is done for a reason with gh15 learn it
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the diff is that i wanted your country to fail,,,and as you can see ,,,it did :) and its going into hell coming february ,,bring you back into your poor spineless reality,,you havent seen nothing yet,,coming february you have hell waiting for you in america for long long time,,,so get ready for that ,,thats the best thing that coulsd happen ,,everything is done for a reason with gh15 learn it
Spot on again, except I'm not American and I don't live in the US ;D
BTW, good to finally know that the reason for the downfall of the US of A is due to an anonymous account in Getbig :D
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you are a direct result of the dose of test that is running in you ,,the fella in the picture talked about on first thread runs 500mg-750mg testosterone a week,,this look is not achievable naturally
end of case
This is proof that you are indeed a gimmick..
A real pro would know that kiwis development can be had naturaly with all the ingredients he has used ...no test or other aas needed..
Now fuk off you know nothing shit for brains idiot.. ::)