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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
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Did not watch but I can assume cswol like reps were performed.
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butterfly kipping pullups are a BASTARD to get right. honestly when i do WODs like fran or murph i can't do it like that. i've taken time and worked on it, but i just can't get the rhythm down. and let me tell you, that makes it FASTER, but not EASIER. plus the ballistic movement means it's HELL on your grip. seriously, next time you're at the gym, try and knock out 30-40 pullups like that as fast as you can.
complaining about kipping pullups is like bitching that olympic lifters aren't strict pressing after the clean. they're similar movements but different exercises with different goals in mind.
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
Quit watching at :40 because my back was killing me.
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butterfly kipping pullups are a BASTARD to get right. honestly when i do WODs like fran or murph i can't do it like that. i've taken time and worked on it, but i just can't get the rhythm down. and let me tell you, that makes it FASTER, but not EASIER. plus the ballistic movement means it's HELL on your grip. seriously, next time you're at the gym, try and knock out 30-40 pullups like that as fast as you can.
complaining about kipping pullups is like bitching that olympic lifters aren't strict pressing after the clean. they're similar movements but different exercises with different goals in mind.
I just learned they are called "butterfly pullups". They should have specified that. I don`t think this will do much for the way of back development at all though (not that its supposed to and still not entirely sure what they are really for). :D
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I just learned they are called "butterfly pullups". They should have specified that. I don`t think this will do much for the way of back development at all though (not that its supposed and not sure what they are really for). :D
Doesn't do much of anything.
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Her iliopsoas must burn like hell. ::)
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My lower back hurts just watching that. :-\
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O094iKoTKHY/ULLo8zJbpVI/AAAAAAAAS_o/wKGxva8aZXI/s1600/flopping-fish.gif)
(http://medias.gifboom.com/medias/7b32d6f802e547c9afdbebd1516c7000@2x.gif)
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Of course they omit the butterfly addendum to gain bragging rights - crox fitnas are similar to meatheads but think they've got the gravy train under their pompous arses.
Looks like cross fitters are the liberals of the weightlifting world.
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Companion video for that one :) -
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butterfly kipping pullups are a BASTARD to get right. honestly when i do WODs like fran or murph i can't do it like that. i've taken time and worked on it, but i just can't get the rhythm down. and let me tell you, that makes it FASTER, but not EASIER. plus the ballistic movement means it's HELL on your grip. seriously, next time you're at the gym, try and knock out 30-40 pullups like that as fast as you can.
complaining about kipping pullups is like bitching that olympic lifters aren't strict pressing after the clean. they're similar movements but different exercises with different goals in mind.
So what is the goal of this "butterfly pullup"? Is it used for a full body workout or something? ???
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I`m going to start a new Workout Business Model called Slave Labor. Its going to be where people pay me and I drill them doing all kinds of work outside including, plowing, raking, sweeping, digging, carrying sand bags and mulch bags, clearing brush, picking up logs, picking up sticks, cutting weeds and trees etc...
Think anyone will be interested in paying me for that?
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Fuckin Hardcore Crossfitting man!
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So what is the goal of this "butterfly pullup"? Is it used for a full body workout or something? ???
It's Crossfit goofiness. There was never a traditional butterfly pull up. Originally Crossfit went with the original old style kipping movement, as Crossfit got more competitive they moved to this newer faster butterfly pull up. It lacks the reset that a traditional kip pull up has.
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what a load of shit ???
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butterfly kipping pullups are a BASTARD to get right. honestly when i do WODs like fran or murph i can't do it like that. i've taken time and worked on it, but i just can't get the rhythm down. and let me tell you, that makes it FASTER, but not EASIER. plus the ballistic movement means it's HELL on your grip. seriously, next time you're at the gym, try and knock out 30-40 pullups like that as fast as you can.
complaining about kipping pullups is like bitching that olympic lifters aren't strict pressing after the clean. they're similar movements but different exercises with different goals in mind.
Just usual people bagging on CF Zach. Some of the same people will talk about doing "real" pullups, yet are the same people that probably never even come close to getting their chin above the bar, or even better round their shoulders and back so much that its not even close to a strict pullup. I agree with you that its not easier to do them like that. Have you ever watched this for the kipping pullups?
http://www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/exercise.php?exerciseID=41
This actually is a pretty decent tutorial on them (if you haven't seen it before)
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Just usual people bagging on CF Zach. Some of the same people will talk about doing "real" pullups, yet are the same people that probably never even come close to getting their chin above the bar, or even better round their shoulders and back so much that its not even close to a strict pullup. I agree with you that its not easier to do them like that. Have you ever watched this for the kipping pullups?
http://www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/exercise.php?exerciseID=41
This actually is a pretty decent tutorial on them (if you haven't seen it before)
What are they for though? ??? And what do you think of my Slave Labor business model? :D
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Doesn't do much of anything.
Nothing at all huh?
Lest I sound like a broken record, there are some things done in CF that are just plain nonsense. I would "no rep" a bunch of things if I were a judge. Thing is, bag on CF...why not bag on some of the stupidity of WSM while you're at it? Guess what...no one will.
BTW....what does this have to do with 'bodybuilding' ::) ::) :
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/wayneish/kai2.jpg)
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Just usual people bagging on CF Zach. Some of the same people will talk about doing "real" pullups, yet are the same people that probably never even come close to getting their chin above the bar, or even better round their shoulders and back so much that its not even close to a strict pullup. I agree with you that its not easier to do them like that. Have you ever watched this for the kipping pullups?
http://www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/exercise.php?exerciseID=41
This actually is a pretty decent tutorial on them (if you haven't seen it before)
you canīt compare that to sets of chins strict ..like sternum chins. bullshit.
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Just usual people bagging on CF Zach. Some of the same people will talk about doing "real" pullups, yet are the same people that probably never even come close to getting their chin above the bar, or even better round their shoulders and back so much that its not even close to a strict pullup. I agree with you that its not easier to do them like that. Have you ever watched this for the kipping pullups?
http://www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/exercise.php?exerciseID=41
This actually is a pretty decent tutorial on them (if you haven't seen it before)
Why is Beaker/James Holmes being instructed on that in the video? Shouldn`t "it" (no idea if male or female) at least learn how to do some basic lifting instead of this bullshit? ??? I mean seriously, what will beaker get out of it?
(http://www.claireramus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/beaker-muppet2.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02506/James-Holmes_2506390b.jpg)
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Just usual people bagging on CF Zach. Some of the same people will talk about doing "real" pullups, yet are the same people that probably never even come close to getting their chin above the bar, or even better round their shoulders and back so much that its not even close to a strict pullup. I agree with you that its not easier to do them like that. Have you ever watched this for the kipping pullups?
http://www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/exercise.php?exerciseID=41
This actually is a pretty decent tutorial on them (if you haven't seen it before)
This just looks like future shoulder injuries to me. I see some surgeries in her future. :D
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What are they for though? ??? And what do you think of my Slave Labor business model? :D
To be quite honest, I am not a fan of the kipping pullup. I think the rules should be a strict pullup.
Donny - I wasn't comparing them at all. Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. The majority of people bitching about kipping pull ups probably think that doing the 2 - 3" ROM pullups they do are "strict".
Twaddle - Exactly. The wear on the shoulder is big. This is why I have the opinion I do. Same with the "pogo-ing" off a plyo box. Welcome to an achilles injury
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Nothing at all huh?
Lest I sound like a broken record, there are some things done in CF that are just plain nonsense. I would "no rep" a bunch of things if I were a judge. Thing is, bag on CF...why not bag on some of the stupidity of WSM while you're at it? Guess what...no one will.
BTW....what does this have to do with 'bodybuilding' ::) ::) :
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/wayneish/kai2.jpg)
I will. Most of what they do would be better served paying me for my Slave Labor course. I have rocks that need to be picked up and moved. GIANT foundation rocks that aren`t smooth or machined. At least they would be doing something productive.
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To be quite honest, I am not a fan of the kipping pullup. I think the rules should be a strict pullup.
Donny - I wasn't comparing them at all. Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. The majority of people bitching about kipping pull ups probably think that doing the 2 - 3" ROM pullups they do are "strict".
Twaddle - Exactly. The wear on the shoulder is big. This is why I have the opinion I do. Same with the "pogo-ing" off a plyo box. Welcome to an achilles injury
Pullups should be done by locking out completely at the bottom and coming to a complete rest at the bottom. Chin needs to come above bar at the top. No swinging. THAT is the way to do a pullup.
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This moron thought it would be a good idea to carry a Fridge on his back.
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load of fucking bollocks...you will never train your lats with that...you gotta concentrate on the muscles and feel it ...and not this kipping bullshit ::) ::)
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Pullups should be done by locking out completely at the bottom and coming to a complete rest at the bottom. Chin needs to come above bar at the top. No swinging. THAT is the way to do a pullup.
I think I just said that
So Donny....do you feel that a powerlifting bench press (arched back, feet back, elbows tucked) is wrong because they don't do it the way bodybuilders do it? What about a powerlifting squat versus a bodybuilding squat. "You gotta concentrate on a muscle and feel it" ::) ::) Flex Bodybuilding Doucheness 101. Tell me how you are going "concentrate on a muscle and feel it" when doing a clean and jerk.
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What's the deal with people using the smith machine like a leg press? I had never seen that before, but it seems everyone at the gym is doing it now... lol
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ROFLMAOOOOOOOOO
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I think I just said that
So Donny....do you feel that a powerlifting bench press (arched back, feet back, elbows tucked) is wrong because they don't do it the way bodybuilders do it? What about a powerlifting squat versus a bodybuilding squat. "You gotta concentrate on a muscle and feel it" ::) ::) Flex Bodybuilding Doucheness 101. Tell me how you are going "concentrate on a muscle and feel it" when doing a clean and jerk.
donīt piss your pants son.. we are talking about the video..you canīt tell me that is lat training...
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donīt piss your pants son.. we are talking about the video..you canīt tell me that is lat training...
I`d still like to know what its for myself. ???
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I`d still like to know what its for myself. ???
Maybe to boost arthroscopic surgeries? ??? :D
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Whatever it is for, the teaching of it to these Crossfit Drones is pretty widespread and a "requirement" for some. Some call them Pullups others call them "efficiency pullups". (efficient at doing what exactly ???)
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I`d still like to know what its for myself. ???
let me learn the function of the lats..please tell me the benifit of this??? true Adonis i do not know either ??? nothing against these guys but no way is that like a strict chin..
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They are marketing this as legit pullups in a lot of Crossfit Concentration Camps. Its crazy.
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Nothing at all huh?
Lest I sound like a broken record, there are some things done in CF that are just plain nonsense. I would "no rep" a bunch of things if I were a judge. Thing is, bag on CF...why not bag on some of the stupidity of WSM while you're at it? Guess what...no one will.
BTW....what does this have to do with 'bodybuilding' ::) ::) :
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/wayneish/kai2.jpg)
You cannot compare WSM to crossfit. Two different worlds. Ones been around 10-12 years while the other has been around for what? Over 100 years?
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Get a LOAD OF THIS SHIT. They REALLY think they are doing real Pullups. This is from the Crossfit Official Channel. HAHAHAHA
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What's the deal with people using the smith machine like a leg press? I had never seen that before, but it seems everyone at the gym is doing it now... lol
Lack of vertical old style leg presses, those old vertical leg presses come back in style every few years, but few companies make them anymore -
(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1749/images/full/powerline-vertical-leg-press.jpg).
Could be worse, they could be taking up all the olympic bars (yes, this is a real photo) -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uldesJNWG8U/Tm4CZVIonDI/AAAAAAAAAMM/tfaqIv_svak/s1600/Wilbur+Miller+Unsupported+Leg+Press.jpg).
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I like this comment: Being excited about your ability to do kipping pull-ups is like being excited about biking really fast down hill.
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OK krankenstein is a good guy and he works hard and i mean NO disrespect to him...but itīs fucking bullsit.
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I like this comment: Being excited about your ability to do kipping pull-ups is like being excited about biking really fast down hill.
dude, i just posted that comment to one of your comments lol
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Nothing at all huh?
Lest I sound like a broken record, there are some things done in CF that are just plain nonsense. I would "no rep" a bunch of things if I were a judge. Thing is, bag on CF...why not bag on some of the stupidity of WSM while you're at it? Guess what...no one will.
BTW....what does this have to do with 'bodybuilding' ::) ::) :
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/wayneish/kai2.jpg)
Cause most people into crossfit act like their workouts are better than everyone elses. WSM and powerlifters are typical humble people that don't run around bragging about reps per minute.
Are you a certified crossfit trainer?
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Lack of vertical old style leg presses, those old vertical leg presses come back in style every few years, but few companies make them anymore -
(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1749/images/full/powerline-vertical-leg-press.jpg).
Could be worse, they could be taking up all the olympic bars (yes, this is a real photo) -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uldesJNWG8U/Tm4CZVIonDI/AAAAAAAAAMM/tfaqIv_svak/s1600/Wilbur+Miller+Unsupported+Leg+Press.jpg).
haha...wow...
My old gym did have an ancient vertical leg press. I don't really see the difference through, besides increased gravity and less ROM?
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Cause most people into crossfit act like their workouts are better than everyone elses. WSM and powerlifters are typical humble people that don't run around bragging about reps per minute.
Are you a certified crossfit trainer?
I think both would get more out of my Slave Labor/Plantation Workout
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Cause most people into crossfit act like their workouts are better than everyone elses. WSM and powerlifters are typical humble people that don't run around bragging about reps per minute.
Are you a certified crossfit trainer?
haha, yes, those crossfit run around telling everyone how they just completed some INSANE marathon race, running through fires, under barbed wire, etc lol.
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haha, yes, those crossfit run around telling everyone how they just completed some INSANE marathon race, running through fires, under barbed wire, etc lol.
Precisely why I think they would REALLY enjoy living like an Authentic Slave. They get to pay me even.
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I think both would get more out of my Slave Labor/Plantation Workout
Link?
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Link?
No website or anything at all. I just thought people would be interested and it seems like a good idea.
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No website or anything at all. I just thought people would be interested and it seems like a good idea.
Details?
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Details?
Well I have a ton of foundation rocks that need to be moved to another location. 5 lb rocks all the way up to 1000 lbs or more. I have a downed Pecan limb the size of a regular tree that needs to be cut and moved. I could provide a handsaw to cut it in moveable pieces. That will be more difficult than any WSM workout or CROSSFIT could even dream of. Thats not even the tip of the iceberg. I have about a million things that could be used for Slave Camp. I think people would pay me for this, setting it up like workouts. Why not? At least they will be doing something useful for a change.
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have to do this in the Gym...hell maybe idiots will pay for it... ;D tell them itīs combat training...
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Krankenstein is perhaps the most level headed, smartest, non-douchey crossfitter I know. He is like a crossfitter that hates his other peers. A great man and I will name my first born after him someday.
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Krankenstein is perhaps the most level headed, smartest, non-douchey crossfitter I know. He is like a crossfitter that hates his other peers. A great man and I will name my first born after him someday.
yes we are not taking the piss out him but you canīt tell me that is like a strict chin
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
LOL!!! WTF was that?
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Well I have a ton of foundation rocks that need to be moved to another location. 5 lb rocks all the way up to 1000 lbs or more. I have a downed Pecan limb the size of a regular tree that needs to be cut and moved. I could provide a handsaw to cut it in moveable pieces. That will be more difficult than any WSM workout or CROSSFIT could even dream of. Thats not even the tip of the iceberg. I have about a million things that could be used for Slave Camp. I think people would pay me for this, setting it up like workouts. Why not? At least they will be doing something useful for a change.
Hmmm, possibilities....
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Well I have a ton of foundation rocks that need to be moved to another location. 5 lb rocks all the way up to 1000 lbs or more. I have a downed Pecan limb the size of a regular tree that needs to be cut and moved. I could provide a handsaw to cut it in moveable pieces. That will be more difficult than any WSM workout or CROSSFIT could even dream of. Thats not even the tip of the iceberg. I have about a million things that could be used for Slave Camp. I think people would pay me for this, setting it up like workouts. Why not? At least they will be doing something useful for a change.
Instead of GoRuck Challenge - you should start the TA Challenge and just get people to do shit for you for free
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i keep laughing my balls off at everyone wailing about how "that won't train your lats". no shit, sherlocks, it won't any more than doing push jerks will train your shoulders, it's like watching pyrros dimas clean and jerk and going "wahhh he should do a strict military press, that won't develop his delts!!" ::)
i don't follow mainsite and i readily accept that most of what HQ does is retarded, but it bugs the crap out of me that hating on crossfit and being completely ignorant about it has somehow become trendy. meanwhile the people mocking CFers would fall apart if they attempted to do what they're poo-pooing at. it's like watching a board of joggers making fun of savickas doing farmer's walks because "that won't burn any fat!" ::)
as for saying that strongmen and powerlifters are humble and CFers aren't, bullshit man. you're taking the handful of overzealous douchenozzles and making a statement about everyone. i'm a crossfitter, do you know when in my life you'll ever hear me talking about it? when someone asks, or when i see something like this where people start talking out of their asses about it. the others are no different than the arrogant fuckwaffle bodybuilders who call anyone over 12% bodyfat "obese" or the lifters who snort at anyone doing an aerobic exercise and wear shirts like "IF THE BAR AIN'T BENDIN' YOU'RE JUST PRETENDIN'."
sorry for the tirade. this shit just drives me up a wall.
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Instead of GoRuck Challenge - you should start the TA Challenge and just get people to do shit for you for free
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Thats the idea. And they pay me.
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i keep laughing my balls off at everyone wailing about how "that won't train your lats". no shit, sherlocks, it won't any more than doing push jerks will train your shoulders, it's like watching pyrros dimas clean and jerk and going "wahhh he should do a strict military press, that won't develop his delts!!" ::)
i don't follow mainsite and i readily accept that most of what HQ does is retarded, but it bugs the crap out of me that hating on crossfit and being completely ignorant about it has somehow become trendy. meanwhile the people mocking CFers would fall apart if they attempted to do what they're poo-pooing at. it's like watching a board of joggers making fun of savickas doing farmer's walks because "that won't burn any fat!" ::)
as for saying that strongmen and powerlifters are humble and CFers aren't, bullshit man. you're taking the handful of overzealous douchenozzles and making a statement about everyone. i'm a crossfitter, do you know when in my life you'll ever hear me talking about it? when someone asks, or when i see something like this where people start talking out of their asses about it. the others are no different than the arrogant fuckwaffle bodybuilders who call anyone over 12% bodyfat "obese" or the lifters who snort at anyone doing an aerobic exercise and wear shirts like "IF THE BAR AIN'T BENDIN' YOU'RE JUST PRETENDIN'."
sorry for the tirade. this shit just drives me up a wall.
I think Crossfitters would fall apart if they attempted my Slave Labor Camp. :D
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Thats the idea. And they pay me.
Just give them a medal and a t shirt and they wil do anything! Trust me i know ;D
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yes we are not taking the piss out him but you canīt tell me that is like a strict chin
it's not SUPPOSED to be. like, no one says that they are. and the ironic thing is that in order to be any good at kipping pullups you have to be REALLY good at strict ones. the majority of CF pullup training is strict, with butterfly kips worked in for the express purpose of speed WODs like fran or angie.
i'm not even kidding, if you think it's such a cheap cheat, do it. try it for yourself. knock out a couple dozen kipping pullups as fast as you can and tell me how easy it was. not slow, mind. go for speed. do what that girl did. if it's such bullshit, it shouldn't even be hard, so it's not like it'll mess up your training. and get it on video.
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it's not SUPPOSED to be. like, no one says that they are. and the ironic thing is that in order to be any good at kipping pullups you have to be REALLY good at strict ones. the majority of CF pullup training is strict, with butterfly kips worked in for the express purpose of speed WODs like fran or angie.
i'm not even kidding, if you think it's such a cheap cheat, do it. try it for yourself. knock out a couple dozen kipping pullups as fast as you can and tell me how easy it was. not slow, mind. go for speed. do what that girl did. if it's such bullshit, it shouldn't even be hard, so it's not like it'll mess up your training. and get it on video.
but what are you training and why ?
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Just give them a medal and a t shirt and they wil do anything! Trust me i know ;D
ROFLMAO yes. I could get some Slave Tags printed up or something and once they complete certain tasks, they can have more "freedoms". Maybe they can have a cooked meal or some Strawberries or something.
(http://p2.la-img.com/1056/40957/17625205_1_l.jpg)
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ROFLMAO yes. I could get some Slave Tags printed up or something and once they complete certain tasks, they can have more "freedoms". Maybe they can have a cooked meal or some Strawberries or something.
(http://p2.la-img.com/1056/40957/17625205_1_l.jpg)
Like I said - trust me i know and probavbly would sign up myself . ;D ;D ;D
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it's not SUPPOSED to be. like, no one says that they are. and the ironic thing is that in order to be any good at kipping pullups you have to be REALLY good at strict ones. the majority of CF pullup training is strict, with butterfly kips worked in for the express purpose of speed WODs like fran or angie.
i'm not even kidding, if you think it's such a cheap cheat, do it. try it for yourself. knock out a couple dozen kipping pullups as fast as you can and tell me how easy it was. not slow, mind. go for speed. do what that girl did. if it's such bullshit, it shouldn't even be hard, so it's not like it'll mess up your training. and get it on video.
Come on Zach, you can`t tell me the men women in this video, who are doing kipping pullups, are any good at real pullups. Only one of them can do a pullup and she isn`t kipping.
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http://convictionwp.weebly.com/1/post/2012/09/5-reasons-why-crossfit-sucks-and-drives-me-nuts.html
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"WODs" ::)
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
How the hell are these considered "pull ups?" 20 in and she couldn't even get her chin up past the bar anymore. Better to do 20 correctly rather than 100 incorrectly! Stupid
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Like I said - trust me i know and probavbly would sign up myself . ;D ;D ;D
Well goddamn, I really might consider this. haha
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How the hell are these considered "pull ups?" 20 in and she couldn't even get her chin up past the bar anymore. Better to do 20 correctly rather than 100 incorrectly! Stupid
She is working out her ability to work out.
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(http://convictionwp.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/9/12991509/1927373_orig.jpg)
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Come on Zach, you can`t tell me the men women in this video, who are doing kipping pullups, are any good at real pullups. Only one of them can do a pullup and she isn`t kipping.
again, you can't just cherry pick the worst videos and say "this is why crossfitters are stupid". it's like using that pushup video where the dude goes down three inches and saying "this is why bodyweight exercising is dumb" or some teenager loading 585 on the bar and doing a three inch squat and saying "this is why bodybuilders are dumb ego lifters".
crossfit's issue isn't ideology or design. it's that it's the new and fashionable exercise method so you've got six million "boxes" across the country where people who don't know what they're doing act like experts and "train" others to be just as stupid as they are. here's rich froning, the guy who won the games in 2012:
you gonna tell me he can't bang out pullups all day long?
if you actually dig in with CF training, like the actual programs designed by people who know WTF they're doing, the amount of strict pullups they advocate is like 10x the kipping they do, because you can't get any good at kipping without a foundation. similarly, most overhead pressing is done standing and strict, because that means you have a strong base to build off of when you do WODs that have push presses or jerks in them.
in FACT, a shitload of WODs have "chest to bar" pullups. you can kip those if you want, but the point is that you literally have to get your chest all the way up to the bar. you're talking about chin clearing the bar, when was the last time you actually got your CHEST to the bar doing them?
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well each to his own...
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Mistermangoo comes back right into meltdown mode. :D
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again, you can't just cherry pick the worst videos and say "this is why crossfitters are stupid". it's like using that pushup video where the dude goes down three inches and saying "this is why bodyweight exercising is dumb" or some teenager loading 585 on the bar and doing a three inch squat and saying "this is why bodybuilders are dumb ego lifters".
crossfit's issue isn't ideology or design. it's that it's the new and fashionable exercise method so you've got six million "boxes" across the country where people who don't know what they're doing act like experts and "train" others to be just as stupid as they are. here's rich froning, the guy who won the games in 2012:
you gonna tell me he can't bang out pullups all day long?
if you actually dig in with CF training, like the actual programs designed by people who know WTF they're doing, the amount of strict pullups they advocate is like 10x the kipping they do, because you can't get any good at kipping without a foundation. similarly, most overhead pressing is done standing and strict, because that means you have a strong base to build off of when you do WODs that have push presses or jerks in them.
in FACT, a shitload of WODs have "chest to bar" pullups. you can kip those if you want, but the point is that you literally have to get your chest all the way up to the bar. you're talking about chin clearing the bar, when was the last time you actually got your CHEST to the bar doing them?
Isn`t comparing Rich Froning with the average Crossfitter, Cherry Picking. :D
I don`t think all of it is stupid, but I do think a lot of it is. I think some of the people are even dumber though than the actual programs themselves. . They don`t really need to pay someone for this "information". I do think the people who are into this, like and enjoy the subculture it has spawned for the most part and that is the reason they keep going with it.
There is a lot of stupid to go around in any activity, bodybuilding included. No reason we can`t laugh at Crossfitters and bodybuilders alike. :D
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What the hell is involved in "crossfit games"? Do they see who can do the most Butterfly Pullups or something? ???
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Crossfit is a great idea! However the cult devotion is borderline insanity
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Isn`t comparing Rich Froning with the average Crossfitter, Cherry Picking. :D
I don`t think all of it is stupid, but I do think a lot of it is. I think some of the people are even dumber though than the actual programs themselves. . They don`t really need to pay someone for this "information". I do think the people who are into this, like and enjoy the subculture it has spawned for the most part and that is the reason they keep going with it.
There is a lot of stupid to go around in any activity, bodybuilding included. No reason we can`t laugh at Crossfitters and bodybuilders alike. :D
yeah what the fuck man,,,i laugh at myself,,,,no one was being bad
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OMFFFFG
I just wikied Cross Fit, and THIS is the main picture, titled "trainer certification". HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA Just look at that SHIT. hahhahah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossFit
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg/800px-2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg)
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Ok, Mangoo, Kackstain...what's the difference between crossfit and giant sets? Since yes I am too lazy/don't care enough to look it up.
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HAHAHAHAH
I mean I can make Slave/Plantation camp just as difficult and even more and actually have them doing something useful.
(http://if-fit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/girl.jpg)
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OMFFFFG
I just wikied Cross Fit, and THIS is the main picture, titled "trainer certification". HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA Just look at that SHIT. hahhahah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossFit
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg/800px-2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg)
There are a lot of CF chics at my gym and most are smoking hot - just saying
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHA WTF is this.
(http://crossfitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/unsafe-crossfit.jpg)
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHA WTF is this.
(http://crossfitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/unsafe-crossfit.jpg)
If that dude bangs that hot chic - is it worth it?
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OMFFFFG
I just wikied Cross Fit, and THIS is the main picture, titled "trainer certification". HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA Just look at that SHIT. hahhahah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossFit
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg/800px-2007_CrossFit_Trainer_certification.jpg)
chick on the right looks like a chick in our gym...wears a full panty too...
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHA WTF is this.
(http://crossfitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/unsafe-crossfit.jpg)
She lost due to no compression socks.
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For the women, Crossfit is a chance to get in touch with their inner lesbian I think. There is definitely a homosexual element for the women in Crossfit. I mean that pullup video I posted, the majority were lesbians and that is on the Crossfit official channel.
(http://www.crossfitmontreal.ca/uploads/posts/full/145-2012cfgrte6ma764.JPG)
(http://games.crossfit.com/sites/default/files/Games2012_SPCCrossFit_floater1.jpg)
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hmmm...this could be true but they have nice panty ass :P
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All i can say is that at the last spartan race i went to at citifield NYC - there were literally thousands of hot muscular amazing women there
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Ok, Mangoo, Kackstain...what's the difference between crossfit and giant sets? Since yes I am too lazy/don't care enough to look it up.
time. CF is about things done quickly. that's how the majority of the games are ranked. it's how many reps/rounds you can do in X minutes or how fast you can do a given circuit. that's why a lot of them sound easy until you realize you're doing it as quickly as you can. 30 clean and jerks with 135 sounds easy, but doing it in less than two minutes isn't.
that's why kipping pullups exist. it's about speed. get your bar over the chin as quickly as you can. obviously techniques will be developed to facilitate this. it's the exact same reason the olympics went from presses to jerks: it's an efficient way of achieving the same end result, and it's a lot easier to judge. instead of arguing about whether or not there was a "kip" to the pullup or leg drive to the press, just get your chin over the bar or the bar to overhead lockout. long as you get that far, it's valid.
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All i can say is that at the last spartan race i went to at citifield NYC - there were literally thousands of hot muscular amazing women there
i think i would just run behind them and get my cheap thrills ;D
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HAHAHAHA
(http://crossfitbrandx.com/images/uploads/assets/crossfit-womans-creed.jpg)
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(http://hdwallpaperfresh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/crossfit-women-1024x951.jpg)
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also, which is more ridiculous, those CF pics, or this? ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/keCrwdi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WkGCIrS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yVz1onJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CW2UE0d.png)
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I must admit an affection Glassman, he's like Otis from Mayberry, except he's got cash, and loose women, in addition to the liquor.
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Guys ...sorry but. I gotta go,now and dream of panty ass ...:
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Get a LOAD OF THIS SHIT. They REALLY think they are doing real Pullups. This is from the Crossfit Official Channel. HAHAHAHA
wow, the pussy lickin vibe is STRONG in that video. The blonde looks good though.
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Mmany of the CF chicks i have met are insanely hot and bust their ass.
Cant be nagative about that that
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time. CF is about things done quickly. that's how the majority of the games are ranked. it's how many reps/rounds you can do in X minutes or how fast you can do a given circuit. that's why a lot of them sound easy until you realize you're doing it as quickly as you can. 30 clean and jerks with 135 sounds easy, but doing it in less than two minutes isn't.
that's why kipping pullups exist. it's about speed. get your bar over the chin as quickly as you can. obviously techniques will be developed to facilitate this. it's the exact same reason the olympics went from presses to jerks: it's an efficient way of achieving the same end result, and it's a lot easier to judge. instead of arguing about whether or not there was a "kip" to the pullup or leg drive to the press, just get your chin over the bar or the bar to overhead lockout. long as you get that far, it's valid.
Giant sets are done non stop in a variety of exercises, did they just slap a fancy label on giant sets? Milos should sue!!!! :D
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A gift from the old days of Crossfit -
(http://www.irongarmx.net/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=6105).
and just because it's an unintentional laugh -
(http://i.imgur.com/M3ng1vC.png).
(http://i.imgur.com/0jBPccv.png).
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Crossfit is a great idea! However the cult devotion is borderline insanity
Perfectly said
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All i can say is that at the last spartan race i went to at citifield NYC - there were literally thousands of hot muscular amazing women there
pics?
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pics?
Google Spartan Race - Citifield and see what pics are on the google search.
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Giant sets are done non stop in a variety of exercises, did they just slap a fancy label on giant sets? Milos should sue!!!! :D
they're nonstop, but not timed. you're not aiming to beat the clock with giant sets, you aren't scored if you do 15 reps of pushdowns in 30 seconds versus 45. more than that, you stop when you hit failure. if a CF workout says "do 50 reps of X" then you just keep on trucking until you hit 50 reps whether it means one set of 50, two sets of 25, or 10 sets of 5.
additionally, a lot of CF workouts have stuff that isn't just a "lift". like last week i did one that was shouldering a 155lb keg five times then jogging 25 yards out and back with it, six rounds total. or you'll run 400m dashes with pushups and squats in between. sometimes it'll be doing thing "every minute on the minute" for a given time, all sorts of cool variations.
the issue is that CF is so fucking dogmatic. the dumbasses have the audacity to claim that it's better for building muscle than bodybuilding, an activity built SOLELY AROUND MUSCLE BUILDING. ::)
i do a version of crossfit that lines up with my goals. it's not a "best for everyone" thing by a damn sight. if you want to get strong as an ox, do strongman or powerlifting. you wanna get big and ripped? bodybuilding. crossfit is for more "allover athleticism". it's what i do because i'm more interested in being able to do things than how i look in the mirror. that's all.
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CF women n my gym are by far the hottest - no lie. Thick ass and legs - work out like beasts - but they usually are not too friendly
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Crossfit looks like where the last remenants of the american 90s liberal quasi-hippie movement has gone to die. Dykes and beta males flock there for a chance to score with stuck up ex-Vasser/Weslyn graduates trying to find a meaning to their volvo-owning one-child bearing useless lives.
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(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15118_10151329636481861_1853180750_n.jpg)
(http://www.35minutebootcamps.com/sites/default/files/media/events/Spartan%20Race_1_0.jpg)
(http://www.frolic-through-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/IMG_2951.jpg)
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HAHAHAHA
(http://crossfitbrandx.com/images/uploads/assets/crossfit-womans-creed.jpg)
Oh please ::)
I wear make-up, I get manicures and I still grunt and sweat. Oh ya...and I smile when I work out. Cuz I enjoy it. I don't force myself cuz I'm following a cult.
This is the type of shit that makes women look and sound like a joke. Stfu! At the end of the day, you're a girl...act like it and stay feminine!!! Leave the cursing and scars for the boys! :D
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Crossfit looks like where the last remenants of the american 90s liberal quasi-hippie movement has gone to die. Dykes and beta males flock there for a chance to score with stuck up ex-Vasser/Weslyn graduates trying to find a meaning to their volvo-owning one-child bearing useless lives.
Haha - nice one ;D
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Lack of vertical old style leg presses, those old vertical leg presses come back in style every few years, but few companies make them anymore -
(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/1749/images/full/powerline-vertical-leg-press.jpg).
Could be worse, they could be taking up all the olympic bars (yes, this is a real photo) -
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uldesJNWG8U/Tm4CZVIonDI/AAAAAAAAAMM/tfaqIv_svak/s1600/Wilbur+Miller+Unsupported+Leg+Press.jpg).
They must not like their arches very much. Is it me or is a lot of this Cockkfit stuff absoluely brutal on your joints, ligaments...etc. ?
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Dead Hangs or they do NOT count.
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They must not like their arches very much. Is it me or is a lot of this Cockkfit stuff absoluely brutal on your joints, ligaments...etc. ?
Yeah, the biggest injuries you see with it are Rhabdomyolysis (work induced muscles wasting), and things like slap tears/rotator injures, and the occasional knee injury. The first two are the most common.
I'm not a Crossfit hater, but if a person does take it up, they'd do well to find some of the old coaches like Dan John, John Welborn, Everett, or similar that left when it became big.
Bad program design, weak coaching, and general newness to fitness really does seem to rip a lot of averagefolks up. The ones that became Crossfit poster boys were generally good athletes before starting it.
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they're nonstop, but not timed. you're not aiming to beat the clock with giant sets, you aren't scored if you do 15 reps of pushdowns in 30 seconds versus 45. more than that, you stop when you hit failure. if a CF workout says "do 50 reps of X" then you just keep on trucking until you hit 50 reps whether it means one set of 50, two sets of 25, or 10 sets of 5.
additionally, a lot of CF workouts have stuff that isn't just a "lift". like last week i did one that was shouldering a 155lb keg five times then jogging 25 yards out and back with it, six rounds total. or you'll run 400m dashes with pushups and squats in between. sometimes it'll be doing thing "every minute on the minute" for a given time, all sorts of cool variations.
the issue is that CF is so fucking dogmatic. the dumbasses have the audacity to claim that it's better for building muscle than bodybuilding, an activity built SOLELY AROUND MUSCLE BUILDING. ::)
i do a version of crossfit that lines up with my goals. it's not a "best for everyone" thing by a damn sight. if you want to get strong as an ox, do strongman or powerlifting. you wanna get big and ripped? bodybuilding. crossfit is for more "allover athleticism". it's what i do because i'm more interested in being able to do things than how i look in the mirror. that's all.
I get sucked into these type of things all the time. People enjoy bagging on it because it's just another thing to rip on. I could say something like "Chaos, why not try the workout Fran...and provided you don't shit your pants...I don't see you getting it done in under 10mins." Oh wait, that would be a melt down. Right? I 'competed' in bodybuilding for about 25yrs. Talk about DOUCHE BAGS. Fuck me.....I have NEVER seen a CF web site where there is a 1,000+ page discussion on who is better Rich Frohning or Matt Chan. Yet we can sit here and argue back and forth who is better Ronnie or Dorian. ::)
I am enjoying the competition aspect of it as well as getting stronger and having that enjoyment of training again. I am 44yrs old and can't wait to do the games next year. Adam....you bag on some of these things....whats the point of those "GetBig Challenges" then. No point. Why dont I have you come over to my house and do the roofing challenge? I have a roof to tear off, and then you can carry all the new stuff up on a ladder...much more productive than your 100reps of squats. Right?
BTW Joe...CF has been around since about 1974. We have been through this about 1,000 times...there are more people in bodybuilding that are nut jobs than in CF. There are going to be people who ALWAYS have the holier than thou outlook with whatever they do. Unfortunately due to the web we all have to hear it. I welcome ANYONE to do some of the stuff I do in my log and tell me it was a breeze. Will you be stronger than me? Some will be. But hey, my workouts are 1,000x more enjoyable than "Monday : Chest/Biceps. 3 - 4 exercises for chest, 8 - 12 reps, blah blah blah blah"
I wonder how many people claim a "315lb squat" when they do it on a smith? Thats not a real squat. People call it a kipping pullup because they are differentiating it from a REAL pull up.
This was my workout today:
1000m Row
50 Thrusters 45" bar
30 CHEST TO BAR pull ups <----- see that...strict....NO KIPPING
10:14
Meltdown....stroke....ep ic crying....I suck cock...seems like Krankenstein loves the man juice...blah blah blah. Right?
P.S. BB. You are right...and I have said this to Joe. There are GREAT coaches and there are ones that should be punched in the face HARD. I follow Rudy from Outlaw Crossfit, Glenn Pendlay, Kelly Starrett, and Everett. Rhabdomyolisis can be caused by any number of conditions that damage the muscle. So, the 100 rep workouts...welcome to potentially causing this. Most of the time people are so dehydrated before they workout that they get this.
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I get sucked into these type of things all the time. People enjoy bagging on it because it's just another thing to rip on. I could say something like "Chaos, why not try the workout Fran...and provided you don't shit your pants...I don't see you getting it done in under 10mins." Oh wait, that would be a melt down. Right? I 'competed' in bodybuilding for about 25yrs. Talk about DOUCHE BAGS. Fuck me.....I have NEVER seen a CF web site where there is a 1,000+ page discussion on who is better Rich Frohning or Matt Chan. Yet we can sit here and argue back and forth who is better Ronnie or Dorian. ::)
I am enjoying the competition aspect of it as well as getting stronger and having that enjoyment of training again. I am 44yrs old and can't wait to do the games next year. Adam....you bag on some of these things....whats the point of those "GetBig Challenges" then. No point. Why dont I have you come over to my house and do the roofing challenge? I have a roof to tear off, and then you can carry all the new stuff up on a ladder...much more productive than your 100reps of squats. Right?
BTW Joe...CF has been around since about 1974. We have been through this about 1,000 times...there are more people in bodybuilding that are nut jobs than in CF. There are going to be people who ALWAYS have the holier than thou outlook with whatever they do. Unfortunately due to the web we all have to hear it. I welcome ANYONE to do some of the stuff I do in my log and tell me it was a breeze. Will you be stronger than me? Some will be. But hey, my workouts are 1,000x more enjoyable than "Monday : Chest/Biceps. 3 - 4 exercises for chest, 8 - 12 reps, blah blah blah blah"
I wonder how many people claim a "315lb squat" when they do it on a smith? Thats not a real squat. People call it a kipping pullup because they are differentiating it from a REAL pull up.
This was my workout today:
1000m Row
50 Thrusters 45" bar
30 CHEST TO BAR pull ups <----- see that...strict....NO KIPPING
10:14
Meltdown....stroke....ep ic crying....I suck cock...seems like Krankenstein loves the man juice...blah blah blah. Right?
P.S. BB. You are right...and I have said this to Joe. There are GREAT coaches and there are ones that should be punched in the face HARD. I follow Rudy from Outlaw Crossfit, Glenn Pendlay, Kelly Starrett, and Everett. Rhabdomyolisis can be caused by any number of conditions that damage the muscle. So, the 100 rep workouts...welcome to potentially causing this. Most of the time people are so dehydrated before they workout that they get this.
Do you wanna fight?
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This was my workout today:
1000m Row
50 Thrusters 45" bar
30 CHEST TO BAR pull ups <----- see that...strict....NO KIPPING
10:14
oo i almost wish i'd read this before i hit the gym. would have been a LOT smarter than that squat/pullup abomination i attempted.
side note: i don't do my CTB pullups super strict. :-\ they're far from a butterfly kip, but i do that tiny bump at the bottom to get moving.
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
im still impressed and shocked regardless of technique thats fuckin sick
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I think CF is a great idea - and it gets women actually lifting weights which is great - but the cultish following and some of the other bs os really off putting.
The women I have met at the races are awesome, hot, and totally cool.
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oo i almost wish i'd read this before i hit the gym. would have been a LOT smarter than that squat/pullup abomination i attempted.
side note: i don't do my CTB pullups super strict. :-\ they're far from a butterfly kip, but i do that tiny bump at the bottom to get moving.
LOL........details dude.
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time. CF is about things done quickly. that's how the majority of the games are ranked. it's how many reps/rounds you can do in X minutes or how fast you can do a given circuit. that's why a lot of them sound easy until you realize you're doing it as quickly as you can. 30 clean and jerks with 135 sounds easy, but doing it in less than two minutes isn't.
that's why kipping pullups exist. it's about speed. get your bar over the chin as quickly as you can. obviously techniques will be developed to facilitate this. it's the exact same reason the olympics went from presses to jerks: it's an efficient way of achieving the same end result, and it's a lot easier to judge. instead of arguing about whether or not there was a "kip" to the pullup or leg drive to the press, just get your chin over the bar or the bar to overhead lockout. long as you get that far, it's valid.
agreed
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I think CF is a great idea - and it gets women actually lifting weights which is great - but the cultish following and some of the other bs os really off putting.
The women I have met at the races are awesome, hot, and totally cool.
think about this, too: thanks to CF, things like squats, pullups, oly lifts, standing presses, and heavy kettlebell exercises are turning popular. you go into gyms and more and more of them are starting to have squat racks and bumper plates.
like anything, when it hits the mainstream you get the dogmatic shitstains who get all crazy about it. remember how in lifting circles for a while people refused to believe ANYTHING except HIT worked? or how about the nautilus wave? crossfit is, at least, something that turned real lifting into the thing to do, and not only that but it proudly proclaims that it's hard as opposed to the scads of "just 30 minutes a day three days a week!" DVD sets out there.
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LOL........details dude.
hahaha it's in adonis's challenge thread. i wanted to try getting 225x100 on squats and 100 pullups within 30 minutes. it was a stupid as fuck idea, i squatted on thursday and did a bunch of oly lifts yesterday, then went out drinking last night. but i'm a stubborn sumbitch so i went for it anyway, trying to do 10 rounds of 10 reps on each. was in the squats on set five and i just lost it. body was done, puked in a trash can, had to lie down for a while. wouldn't have gotten it in under 30 anyway.
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think about this, too: thanks to CF, things like squats, pullups, oly lifts, standing presses, and heavy kettlebell exercises are turning popular. you go into gyms and more and more of them are starting to have squat racks and bumper plates.
like anything, when it hits the mainstream you get the dogmatic shitstains who get all crazy about it. remember how in lifting circles for a while people refused to believe ANYTHING except HIT worked? or how about the nautilus wave? crossfit is, at least, something that turned real lifting into the thing to do, and not only that but it proudly proclaims that it's hard as opposed to the scads of "just 30 minutes a day three days a week!" DVD sets out there.
Agreed 100%. Not hating at all on CF. I think its a great idea for people to mix it up. However - i do see some things i really question in terms of safety vs benefit ratio
Like I said - tons of the women at the TM, Spartan, races ar CF chicks and they are seriously hot. not skinny chicks, but muscular, fit, and friendly.
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hahaha it's in adonis's challenge thread. i wanted to try getting 225x100 on squats and 100 pullups within 30 minutes. it was a stupid as fuck idea, i squatted on thursday and did a bunch of oly lifts yesterday, then went out drinking last night. but i'm a stubborn sumbitch so i went for it anyway, trying to do 10 rounds of 10 reps on each. was in the squats on set five and i just lost it. body was done, puked in a trash can, had to lie down for a while. wouldn't have gotten it in under 30 anyway.
Good stuff my friend!
Although you were supposed to only do the Squats! You increased the difficulty on us! Maybe I will have to add the pullups in with the squats as part of the challenge.
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Zach....
Thats "Jackie"....BTW, I have a pdf with a SHIT TON of conditioning workouts...want it?
All the people ripping on CF people for their "cult" attitudes. Ummm...how about the HIT trainer cult? The 'high volume' cult? The "no carb" cult? The "natural" cult?
I love that my workouts are never the same. Legitimately NEVER the same. Yeah, you could do that with bodybuilding..but with CF I have to say that there is so much more variety. Just my opinion
Adam, perhaps you might like to see some of those conditioning workouts too....you seem to like challenges
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Zach....
Thats "Jackie"....BTW, I have a pdf with a SHIT TON of conditioning workouts...want it?
All the people ripping on CF people for their "cult" attitudes. Ummm...how about the HIT trainer cult? The 'high volume' cult? The "no carb" cult? The "natural" cult?
I love that my workouts are never the same. Legitimately NEVER the same. Yeah, you could do that with bodybuilding..but with CF I have to say that there is so much more variety. Just my opinion
Adam, perhaps you might like to see some of those conditioning workouts too....you seem to like challenges
I have yet to see thousands of people sporting a "I am no-carb" T shirts ;D
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LOL if you decide to go for it TA, i'd say don't try to SPRINT at first. first two sets were nonstop, and things dropped catastrophically after that.
Agreed 100%. Not hating at all on CF. I think its a great idea for people to mix it up. However - i do see some things i really question in terms of safety vs benefit ratio
no arguments here. :P you got people who try to make shit up to be "different" or just to challenge themselves, but they do it in stupid ways. they'll try doing compound lifts standing on things or do something retarded like that picture i saw of two dudes doing thrusters with a barbell that had a girl dangling off of it (that gym got in SO much shit for that).
it's one of those things where if you can't defend "why" when doing something beyond "it's hard" then you're doing it wrong. my workouts are built around squats, cleans, pullups, and presses. other moves come into play for dynamic training.
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why label
your workout
just do it
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Zach....
Thats "Jackie"....BTW, I have a pdf with a SHIT TON of conditioning workouts...want it?
All the people ripping on CF people for their "cult" attitudes. Ummm...how about the HIT trainer cult? The 'high volume' cult? The "no carb" cult? The "natural" cult?
I love that my workouts are never the same. Legitimately NEVER the same. Yeah, you could do that with bodybuilding..but with CF I have to say that there is so much more variety. Just my opinion
Adam, perhaps you might like to see some of those conditioning workouts too....you seem to like challenges
is that jackie? damn, somehow that one passed me by. sure, fire the PDF at me, i'm always looking out for new shit to try.
and you nailed it on the variety. i love it because workouts change, and they're always in the pursuit of performance. i don't give a fig about how much my arms measure or my bodyfat percentage, but hitting a sub-3 fran or pulling 500 without a belt at under 200lb feels fan-effing-tastic.
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LOL if you decide to go for it TA, i'd say don't try to SPRINT at first. first two sets were nonstop, and things dropped catastrophically after that.
no arguments here. :P you got people who try to make shit up to be "different" or just to challenge themselves, but they do it in stupid ways. they'll try doing compound lifts standing on things or do something retarded like that picture i saw of two dudes doing thrusters with a barbell that had a girl dangling off of it (that gym got in SO much shit for that).
it's one of those things where if you can't defend "why" when doing something beyond "it's hard" then you're doing it wrong. my workouts are built around squats, cleans, pullups, and presses. other moves come into play for dynamic training.
Check out Spartan Race - tons of CF people do this.
I dont do Cf since the gym near me is $300 a month and I rather go to NYSC for $60 a month and do my thing instead. Plus I also like going to the track lately and brining my battle rope, chains, kettlebells, cones, etc and just going at it
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LOL if you decide to go for it TA, i'd say don't try to SPRINT at first. first two sets were nonstop, and things dropped catastrophically after that.
no arguments here. :P you got people who try to make shit up to be "different" or just to challenge themselves, but they do it in stupid ways. they'll try doing compound lifts standing on things or do something retarded like that picture i saw of two dudes doing thrusters with a barbell that had a girl dangling off of it (that gym got in SO much shit for that).
it's one of those things where if you can't defend "why" when doing something beyond "it's hard" then you're doing it wrong. my workouts are built around squats, cleans, pullups, and presses. other moves come into play for dynamic training.
Hey Zach, I did the 100 reps with 225 on squats (1.25 time bodyweight) and finished somewhere between 25-27 minutes. I bet you could have done just the 1.25 times bodyweight squats in 30 minutes without the pullups. What do you think?
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Check out Spartan Race - tons of CF people do this.
I dont do Cf since the gym near me is $300 a month and I rather go to NYSC for $60 a month and do my thing instead. Plus I also like going to the track lately and brining my battle rope, chains, kettlebells, cones, etc and just going at it
That sounds like too mucb damn prep work just to get a workout in.
On a side note I'm pretty sure I was hit on by a tranny at the gym today. And if I wasn't she thinks I'm a pig because I kept looking for a bulge, and she thinks I was staring at her twat.
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That sounds like too mucb damn prep work just to get a workout in.
On a side note I'm pretty sure I was hit on by a tranny at the gym today. And if I wasn't she thinks I'm a pig because I kept looking for a bulge, and she thinks I was staring at her twat.
Been lifting and working out 20+ years - need variety at this point
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I have yet to see thousands of people sporting a "I am no-carb" T shirts ;D
Ummm....but you probably have seen 1,000's with the "Flag nor Fail" ones....right? ;D
Hey, I look at that in the same way as the affliction shirts and the like. People want to be a billboard for what they do in life. Hell, tell me you didn't rock a T-Michael shit back in the day big guy?
Zach....I am proud of my PR's....
1:30 on a 500m row
175# Snatch
230# CJ
6:30 on Fran (pathetic...but still my best)
500# dead (at 44yo)
Oh...and Maddy....why label it? Why not?
333333333333333386 : I don't do the group thing with CF. I have my workout...and thats what I do.
Adam, here is one for you:
a) BW bench
b) Pullups (yes, strict)
5 Rounds....take as much time in between your sets as needed. Each set to failure. Do one set of "a", rest as needed, "b", rest as needed, etc etc
Total your reps.
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Hey Zach, I did the 100 reps with 225 on squats (1.25 time bodyweight) and finished somewhere between 25-27 minutes. I bet you could have done just the 1.25 times bodyweight squats in 30 minutes without the pullups. What do you think?
hard to say. i'm about 200, so we're talking 250x100. my gut tells me that ain't gonna happen, at least not without some time to really acclimate myself to that kinda workout. i'll keep that on the backburner though, once my squatting gets back to where i want it (it's kinda down now thanks to my back fucking up earlier this year) i might give it a go.
Krank, i gotta say those ain't bad. the fran does seem slow though, considering how good you were at the opens. which part slows you down, the pullups or the thrusters?
and waaaaaait a second. you get to rest as needed between the BW bench and pullups? motherf... THAT'S why my sets drop so hard after the first one.
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Yep...there is nothing that says you can't rest 2 - 3 mins in between everything. That's the workout called "Lynne". My best is 145.
On Isabel it's 5:02,
Why so slow....its the damn front rack position on the thrusters.
Let me know if this doesnt work : http://www.sendspace.com/file/0nbahp
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Ummm....but you probably have seen 1,000's with the "Flag nor Fail" ones....right? ;D
Hey, I look at that in the same way as the affliction shirts and the like. People want to be a billboard for what they do in life. Hell, tell me you didn't rock a T-Michael shit back in the day big guy?
Zach....I am proud of my PR's....
1:30 on a 500m row
175# Snatch
230# CJ
6:30 on Fran (pathetic...but still my best)
500# dead (at 44yo)
Oh...and Maddy....why label it? Why not?
333333333333333386 : I don't do the group thing with CF. I have my workout...and thats what I do.
Adam, here is one for you:
a) BW bench
b) Pullups (yes, strict)
5 Rounds....take as much time in between your sets as needed. Each set to failure. Do one set of "a", rest as needed, "b", rest as needed, etc etc
Total your reps.
Yes....but i have an excuse. They made an acid washed blueish/purple one and it made my eyes look freakishly green when i wore it, and that's why I bought it...HA.
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Ummm....but you probably have seen 1,000's with the "Flag nor Fail" ones....right? ;D
Hey, I look at that in the same way as the affliction shirts and the like. People want to be a billboard for what they do in life. Hell, tell me you didn't rock a T-Michael shit back in the day big guy?
Zach....I am proud of my PR's....
1:30 on a 500m row
175# Snatch
230# CJ
6:30 on Fran (pathetic...but still my best)
500# dead (at 44yo)
Oh...and Maddy....why label it? Why not?
333333333333333386 : I don't do the group thing with CF. I have my workout...and thats what I do.
Adam, here is one for you:
a) BW bench
b) Pullups (yes, strict)
5 Rounds....take as much time in between your sets as needed. Each set to failure. Do one set of "a", rest as needed, "b", rest as needed, etc etc
Total your reps.
For the rest periods, is the goal to be fully recovered in order to get max amount of reps?
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HAHAHAHA
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Any womane who suscribes to this creed either had an abusive b/f or daddy.
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For the rest periods, is the goal to be fully recovered in order to get max amount of reps?
Thats up to you. I have not found anywhere that says you can't rest 5 mins. Seriously. Don't take it like you could rest 30 mins. Personally I think the rest should be no more than 3 mins.
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I do like the variety and challenge aspect to it. It really does get boring doing the same things over and over again. I figure might as combine all approaches.
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Thats up to you. I have not found anywhere that says you can't rest 5 mins. Seriously. Don't take it like you could rest 30 mins. Personally I think the rest should be no more than 3 mins.
I try as least rest as possible. as soon as heart rate settles a bit - that is my judge.
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It's just another diversion for generation nothingness...Instead of getting out into the world and producing tangible goods to improve America they retreat to (yet another) self improvement distraction. The social media aspect helps them to stay insulated and cultish...and it encourages an equality of the sexes that emasculates men.
They should be pursuing engineering, mathematics, farming, and computer science to move humanity forward. Instead they flop around on a bar like a hooked fish while their mediocre friends scream encouragement hoping to get laid. The Chinese laugh at this and continue their march of dominance forward.
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The Chinese laugh at this and continue their march of dominance forward.
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Who is that? It is not kyomu.
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Who is that? It is not kyomu.
he's just your typical asian fattycakes toadboy, and it's for sure that he don't do no damn cross-shit
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
What is the fucking point of this shit? Crossfit people, choke yourself.
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The fuckers doing clean and jerks with a baby strapped to them should be smacked.
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It's just another diversion for generation nothingness...Instead of getting out into the world and producing tangible goods to improve America they retreat to (yet another) self improvement distraction. The social media aspect helps them to stay insulated and cultish...and it encourages an equality of the sexes that emasculates men.
They should be pursuing engineering, mathematics, farming, and computer science to move humanity forward. Instead they flop around on a bar like a hooked fish while their mediocre friends scream encouragement hoping to get laid. The Chinese laugh at this and continue their march of dominance forward.
All while you spout your opinions online.... ::)
Doom-owned
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Bwahahaha.
I can say with absolute certainty that "butterfly pull-ups" don't do a fucking thing. This shit is a joke but they all strut around like they are hardcore badasses. I don't know what I hate more, the retarded exercises or how they try to intellectualize them.
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Bwahahaha.
I can say with absolute certainty that "butterfly pull-ups" don't do a fucking thing. This shit is a joke but they all strut around like they are hardcore badasses. I don't know what I hate more, the retarded exercises or how they try to intellectualize them.
They don't huh? Not a fucking thing?
If the shit is such a joke, would you be willing to partake in a bet?
Which of these exercises you find in CF is retarded?: clean and jerk, box jump, rope climbs, sled push, deadlifts, squats, bench press, rowing, sprinting, push ups, olympic snatch, push press.....
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They don't huh? Not a fucking thing?
If the shit is such a joke, would you be willing to partake in a bet?
Which of these exercises you find in CF is retarded?: clean and jerk, box jump, rope climbs, sled push, deadlifts, squats, bench press, rowing, sprinting, push ups, olympic snatch, push press.....
Let me reiterate. NOT A FUCKING THING. It's better to do 10 disciplined repetitions than 100 sloppy, faggoty crossfit repetitions.
A bet? If it involves me imitating crossfit retardation then no.
Those exercises are not retarded in and of themselves. It's the way crossfitters do them that makes them retarded. The Special Olympics is less retarded than a typical crossfit session.
If you enjoy this shit don't let me put a bee in your bonnet. Carry on sir. Don't let the sounds of laughter stop you from being "fit". Keep on preparing for whatever the hell you are preparing for.
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Let me reiterate. NOT A FUCKING THING. It's better to do 10 disciplined repetitions than 100 sloppy, faggoty crossfit repetitions.
A bet? If it involves me imitating crossfit retardation then no.
Those exercises are not retarded in and of themselves. It's the way crossfitters do them that makes them retarded. The Special Olympics is less retarded than a typical crossfit session.
If you enjoy this shit don't let me put a bee in your bonnet. Carry on sir. Don't let the sounds of laughter stop you from being "fit". Keep on preparing for whatever the hell you are preparing for.
Seems you are a little uppity. Tren got ya down skippy?
You single out ONE exercise. ONE. Ever done any olympic lifts chief? Doubtful. You seem like the type that loves to hog the cable cross over machine you so can do your standing double bicep curls.
Wonder why you would put the word fit in quotes. Are you insinuating I am anything but fit? Care to compare bodyfat? endurance? Strength lb for lb?
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Dude, I'm laughing so hard at this thread right now. I'm going to show this to everyone I know. Comedy gold.
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Dude, I'm laughing so hard at this thread right now. I'm going to show this to everyone I know. Comedy gold.
Apparently you haven't seen the Crossfit classic, where a girl pulling a car with a rope...gets ran over by the car....i almost had a seizure i was laughing so hard.
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Wonder why you would put the word fit in quotes. Are you insinuating I am anything but fit? Care to compare bodyfat? endurance? Strength lb for lb?
Can't get anything past you can I? Do you want to measure cocks too?
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I just dont get the whole "Bet you can't do it !" Attitude that is VERY prevalent with crossfitters...it's not just a fee assholes.
I don't want to fucking do it, and if I did...I'd be very good at it.
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Seems you are a little uppity. Tren got ya down skippy?
You single out ONE exercise. ONE. Ever done any olympic lifts chief? Doubtful. You seem like the type that loves to hog the cable cross over machine you so can do your standing double bicep curls.
Wonder why you would put the word fit in quotes. Are you insinuating I am anything but fit? Care to compare bodyfat? endurance? Strength lb for lb?
people like that who scream and throw feces against crossfit are, to a man, speaking from ignorance and nothing else. take anyone who says a kipping pullup does "nothing" and make them bang out 100 of them for time, see if they feel like they didn't do anything afterwards LOL.
and what's even funnier is the people who scream the loudest are the types you'll see at the gym working sooooo hard on those rope pressdowns and lateral raises. oh yeah. showing the crossfitters how to do a REAL workout there, guys. ::)
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I don't want to fucking do it, and if I did...I'd be very good at it.
dude you realize that is an exact five year old's argument right? "i could do that if i wanted, i just don't wanna!"
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dude you realize that is an exact five year old's argument right? "i could do that if i wanted, i just don't wanna!"
Well one juvenile remark deserves another....because " I can do my hula hoop for eleventeen minutes....BET YOU CANT DO IT !" is such a mature attitude.
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Well one juvenile remark deserves another....because " I can do my hula hoop for eleventeen minutes....BET YOU CANT DO IT !" is such a mature attitude.
what you're neglecting is that there are ZERO threads on the G&O called "crossfit is the best and you suck for not doing it". it's all hating, and then people like me saying "if you think it doesn't do anything, TRY it!" we're not coming at you and saying "i do crossfit, i'm better than you!" we're responding to YOUR accusations that the exercises are bullshit or that the program is dumb.
it's not a kid with a hula hoop going "i can do this and you can't," it's you walking up to a kid doing a hula hoop and saying "that's not hard" then refusing to prove just how "easy" it is when you get called on it. it's people who post CF videos and then make stupid-ass comments that i'm saying this to. if you think kipping pullups are cheating and they're easy, try it! YOU made the claim, try it out and see for yourself!
go to the beginning of this thread. it's a bunch of posts mocking a kipping pullup video followed by defense of it. it's not me or krank posting the video and saying "BET YOU CAN'T!"
and it's ALWAYS the fucking pullups. nevermind that CF workouts are jam-packed with ATG squats, olympic lifts, deadlifts, overhead pressing, dips, handstand pushups and sprints, no. it's aaaaaalways the pullups everyone loses their shit over. ::)
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what you're neglecting is that there are ZERO threads on the G&O called "crossfit is the best and you suck for not doing it". it's all hating, and then people like me saying "if you think it doesn't do anything, TRY it!" we're not coming at you and saying "i do crossfit, i'm better than you!" we're responding to YOUR accusations that the exercises are bullshit or that the program is dumb.
it's not a kid with a hula hoop going "i can do this and you can't," it's you walking up to a kid doing a hula hoop and saying "that's not hard" then refusing to prove just how "easy" it is when you get called on it. it's people who post CF videos and then make stupid-ass comments that i'm saying this to. if you think kipping pullups are cheating and they're easy, try it! YOU made the claim, try it out and see for yourself!
go to the beginning of this thread. it's a bunch of posts mocking a kipping pullup video followed by defense of it. it's not me or krank posting the video and saying "BET YOU CAN'T!"
and it's ALWAYS the fucking pullups. nevermind that CF workouts are jam-packed with ATG squats, olympic lifts, deadlifts, overhead pressing, dips, handstand pushups and sprints, no. it's aaaaaalways the pullups everyone loses their shit over. ::)
Please show me where i said anything of the sort. I can show you 50 of 333386's posts where he says "this will kill you meatheads."
Cmon Zach...putting words in peoples mouths?
I think crossfit is hard work. No, at present i could not complete a serious crossfit training session. A begginers session...no problem. If I chose to do it, i would do just fine....I don't see how that's an objectionable statement. I am a physically capable man who has been in shape his entire life. Chicks can do it but I couldn't ?
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Crossfit is a cringeworthy craze of the 2000's which is a 'cool' thing to say you do.
Everyone can do a box jump or some swinging pullups or a silly dance in the cable cross. There is no measurability to it.
You don't need to look good or say what times you have, or what you lift. Like a hippy gym movement.
Not wrong in any way but that's what it is.
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I know why you crossfitters are defending yourselves so much. It's because you know deep down that what you are doing is retarded and gay. If you were confident about your shit critics wouldn't bother you.
To quote Kenny Powers "I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising".
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I know why you crossfitters are defending yourselves so much. It's because you know deep down that what you are doing is retarded and gay. If you were confident about your shit critics wouldn't bother you.
To quote Kenny Powers "I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising".
+1 cross fit is a fad, no different from Zumba.
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Crossfit looks like where the last remenants of the american 90s liberal quasi-hippie movement has gone to die. Dykes and beta males flock there for a chance to score with stuck up ex-Vasser/Weslyn graduates trying to find a meaning to their volvo-owning one-child bearing useless lives.
This post belongs in the Getbig hall of fame. Bravo.
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Lol getbigger commentating
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i'd love to see these crossfags fuck up and chip a few teeth on the bar.
that would be hilarious
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Lol getbigger commentating
Epic.
I don't understand how anyone could defend crossfit after watching that video. Utter horseshit.
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great way to get elbow tendinitis/tendinosis
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great way to get elbow tendinitis/tendinosis
Not to mention wrist problems. :-\
Has anybody ever seen a crossfitter with decent muscular development? Most of those guys look like they barely lift, and the women honestly don't look much better than the women I see in Zumba or Yoga classes. Even "elite" crossfitters don't have a whole lot of visible muscularity; there are 18 year old hobbyist bodybuilders with more muscle size and definition.
So if they're not particularly strong, and if they're not particularly muscular, then what's the point? Nobody really cares how many cheat-pullups you can do.
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A lot of cross fitters are ripped.
yep, they are
but thier physiques pretty much suckass though :-X
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The crossfit hype is just retarded and will fly over soon.
Especially gets bad when they try to implement movements from strongman (like continental cleans) or just strict oly lifts.
People with NO technique whatsoever pushing people to do dangerous complex movements which take years of practice and do all that for shitty high reps so they get ''fitt''.
I can see the cardio aspect of it but come on run a marathon. Like weightlifting? Get into olympic lifting.
Meanwhile in Russia the youth takes examples of the above.
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Apparently you haven't seen the Crossfit classic, where a girl pulling a car with a rope...gets ran over by the car....i almost had a seizure i was laughing so hard.
I laughed as well. Because there are retards in 'regular' gyms as well. The people getting buried under a smith machine squat are a nice example.
Can't get anything past you can I? Do you want to measure cocks too?
Naw, I think just comparing the things above would be enough embarrassment to you.
I just dont get the whole "Bet you can't do it !" Attitude that is VERY prevalent with crossfitters...it's not just a fee assholes.
I don't want to fucking do it, and if I did...I'd be very good at it.
The whole "bet you can't" is just as prevalent in lifting/bodybuilding. "Any time you want to come to the gym and we can see who benches more" is quite common. I would have no problem calling anyone out if they said that doing some of this stuff would be easy yet has never tried it. People like that are just another version of an arm chair quarter back.
I know why you crossfitters are defending yourselves so much. It's because you know deep down that what you are doing is retarded and gay. If you were confident about your shit critics wouldn't bother you.
To quote Kenny Powers "I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising".
HA HA. So standing on stage in less than a bathing suit for mostly men is COMPLETELY and 100% heterosexual? Admiring guys who do that very thing and debate who has "the better physique" is simply intellectual? Ok...have it permafatty.
i'd love to see these crossfags fuck up and chip a few teeth on the bar.
that would be hilarious
Much like the people dropping their bars on their throats in the gyms when they bench like idiots. That makes me laugh too
- For the people who say this is just a fad...Ummmm...bodybuildi ng is dying a nice death as well. The "boom" of the 80's/90's are over. People see that getting lean and staying in shape is not that hard. Its not the rocket science and for the "genetic elite" that the people in that era made it out to be. I am going to start posting some nice gym fails of the non CF training. I need a good laugh.
This dudes a beast. Awesome form...
Light weight BABY!!!
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Please show me where i said anything of the sort. I can show you 50 of 333386's posts where he says "this will kill you meatheads."
Cmon Zach...putting words in peoples mouths?
I think crossfit is hard work. No, at present i could not complete a serious crossfit training session. A begginers session...no problem. If I chose to do it, i would do just fine....I don't see how that's an objectionable statement. I am a physically capable man who has been in shape his entire life. Chicks can do it but I couldn't ?
I respect this. I don't doubt you would do "just fine" with it. To be quite honest, so many things about it aren't really super difficult to master. Then again, how difficult is it to master a bicep curl? Anyone can do CF. No one is saying that you couldn't. What Zach and I are saying is that for any person to sit there and say something like "how hard could that be" or "thats not too difficult" when looking at a workout is being ignorant. I don't doubt for one second that you could do "Fran". Hell, anyone that can front squat and push press 95# along with doing pull ups could do it. Now, see how fast you could do it when you put it all together. I really see very few people on here getting that done in under 6 mins.
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What the fuck are these idiots doing?
Don't the people instructing these people know are leaving themselves wide open to lawsuits if someone gets hurt?
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What the fuck are these idiots doing?
Don't the people instructing these people know are leaving themselves wide open to lawsuits if someone gets hurt?
I forgot the name of the thing they are doing. I believe it was used in some strong man competitions a while back. THIS is why CF will continue to get a bad name. CF didn't come up with it, but some dumb shit decided that it would be cool to add it into the workout because it was different and 'bad ass' probably.
I have argued with Joe on this and have said that there are MANY CF trainers/coaches I would like to hit in the head with a sledge hammer. On the flip side, how many 'trainers' in a gym do you want to do the same things to? I will continue to NEVER call my workouts "WODS". I hate the term, and I hate that they call their gyms "BOXES". I personally hate the elitist-like way that some CF come across with. The thing is, there are SO MANY of that type in bodybuilding. Oh, their workout is the best, their diet is the best, the way they make their chicken breast is the best. Hell, they will even brag how their supplier is the best.
People who think that CF is the only thing where some think that what they do is better than anyone else better not ever get into a religious debate (my god better than your god), sports fan debate (my team is better than your team), competitor debate (this type of equipment blows away your type), etc etc
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Crossfit is a great idea, just poor execution.
Olympic lifts for reps are always bad.
Disregarding proper form is always bad.
Without periodization there is no progress.
You cannot achieve many goals at once. You have to switch between endurance, strength and so on in order to get strong and fit. Even strongman competitors on botloads of drugs periodize.
BTW, I was amazed that Rich Froning is only like 10-20kg away from me on each lift. I thought he's stronger. And he's waaay heavier than me...
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Crossfit is a great idea, just poor execution.
Olympic lifts for reps are always bad.
Disregarding proper form is always bad.
Without periodization there is no progress.
You cannot achieve many goals at once. You have to switch between endurance, strength and so on in order to get strong and fit. Even strongman competitors on botloads of drugs periodize.
BTW, I was amazed that Rich Froning is only like 10-20kg away from me on each lift. I thought he's stronger. And he's waaay heavier than me...
have you done any PL meets?
if tak, what's your numbers?
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Crossfit is a great idea, just poor execution.
Olympic lifts for reps are always bad.
Disregarding proper form is always bad.
Without periodization there is no progress.
You cannot achieve many goals at once. You have to switch between endurance, strength and so on in order to get strong and fit. Even strongman competitors on botloads of drugs periodize.
BTW, I was amazed that Rich Froning is only like 10-20kg away from me on each lift. I thought he's stronger. And he's waaay heavier than me...
Agreed. For the most part the higher rep oly lifts are really on the light side. There are exceptions, and even then you can do singles to complete the reps listed. How much of the strong man stuff is heavy lifting for multiple reps? Quite a bit. Frohning is not the strongest in CF, he just seems to have landed in their 'poster boy' position. The best comparison is Mike O'hearn vs Ronnie Coleman. Which one would women like looking at?
The sad thing is that I have a friend who is a SUPER koolaid drinking CFer. She was extremely adamant that the competitors in the games last year could not be using drugs. Really? You mean to tell me that basic human nature wouldn't take over? Hmmm....I could take this drug to help me recover because I have a huge chance of winning the $250K prize? Nawww...no one would ever do that! ::)
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Crossfit is a great idea, just poor execution.
Olympic lifts for reps are always bad.
Disregarding proper form is always bad.
Without periodization there is no progress.
You cannot achieve many goals at once. You have to switch between endurance, strength and so on in order to get strong and fit. Even strongman competitors on botloads of drugs periodize.
BTW, I was amazed that Rich Froning is only like 10-20kg away from me on each lift. I thought he's stronger. And he's waaay heavier than me...
yes a good post.. depends on who is teaching and training it. I am sure Krank knows what he is doing and his training logs are good to read now and again. i just do not like some of the dangerous sloppy form. Like you wrote on the Olympic explosive movements.. seems like a bad idea for high reps and when you get tired...well you know what i mean.
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I forgot the name of the thing they are doing. I believe it was used in some strong man competitions a while back. THIS is why CF will continue to get a bad name. CF didn't come up with it, but some dumb shit decided that it would be cool to add it into the workout because it was different and 'bad ass' probably.
I have argued with Joe on this and have said that there are MANY CF trainers/coaches I would like to hit in the head with a sledge hammer. On the flip side, how many 'trainers' in a gym do you want to do the same things to? I will continue to NEVER call my workouts "WODS". I hate the term, and I hate that they call their gyms "BOXES". I personally hate the elitist-like way that some CF come across with. The thing is, there are SO MANY of that type in bodybuilding. Oh, their workout is the best, their diet is the best, the way they make their chicken breast is the best. Hell, they will even brag how their supplier is the best.
People who think that CF is the only thing where some think that what they do is better than anyone else better not ever get into a religious debate (my god better than your god), sports fan debate (my team is better than your team), competitor debate (this type of equipment blows away your type), etc etc
Its called a ''continental clean''.
In no way a fan but strongman can get away with it i guess. 60lbs women can't.
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yes a good post.. depends on who is teaching and training it. I am sure Krank knows what he is doing and his training logs are good to read now and again. i just do not like some of the dangerous sloppy form. Like you wrote on the Olympic explosive movements.. seems like a bad idea for high reps and when you get tired...well you know what i mean.
I would not say that I know all what I am doing. I am looking into moving back to Phoenix, and if I do my friend has gone out and trained with Glenn Pendlay a couple of times. I would love to have him tear my form down and get it top notch.
There is dangerous and sloppy form in every day trainees at the gym. Would that be accurate Donny? Again, I whole heartedly agree that Oly lifts should be used for the lower reps. When you are talking a lighter weight...I think there really is minimal chance for injury. Its almost like a bell curve (in my mind). The lower weight you probably won't have much trouble, but keep increasing the weight and you injury potential goes up until a certain point where the weight is so high there is no way of doing higher reps and you simply can't execute the move at all. Hope that makes sense.
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I would not say that I know all what I am doing. I am looking into moving back to Phoenix, and if I do my friend has gone out and trained with Glenn Pendlay a couple of times. I would love to have him tear my form down and get it top notch.
There is dangerous and sloppy form in every day trainees at the gym. Would that be accurate Donny? Again, I whole heartedly agree that Oly lifts should be used for the lower reps. When you are talking a lighter weight...I think there really is minimal chance for injury. Its almost like a bell curve (in my mind). The lower weight you probably won't have much trouble, but keep increasing the weight and you injury potential goes up until a certain point where the weight is so high there is no way of doing higher reps and you simply can't execute the move at all. Hope that makes sense.
What would be accurate?...look at some videos posted. sure Bodybuilders use some loose form too but come on Krank...you know what i am getting at. like i wrote i have nothing against you or your training methods and do look at your training log now and again. The video posted "Albany crossfit" is an accident waiting to go off...FFS.. ::) do not take it so personal. what is correct form..i am sure i do not need to write a long drawn out post on that. You know what good form is.
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Please show me where i said anything of the sort. I can show you 50 of 333386's posts where he says "this will kill you meatheads."
Cmon Zach...putting words in peoples mouths?
I think crossfit is hard work. No, at present i could not complete a serious crossfit training session. A begginers session...no problem. If I chose to do it, i would do just fine....I don't see how that's an objectionable statement. I am a physically capable man who has been in shape his entire life. Chicks can do it but I couldn't ?
okay i think we had different definitions for "fine". yeah, no doubt if you made the transition, a guy with your strength and conditioning could transition well. i did the same. my first workout was Murph some years ago (1 mile, 100pullups, 200 pushups, 300 air squats, 1 mile) and i did it in around 47 minutes. far from a record breaker, but for never having done it, not bad. i thought you meant you could hop on over to CF and start cleaning house. my mistake.
in FACT, most will say that having a solid strength base is far, FAR more important than being in good shape aerobically. so lifters tend to excel beyond runners and whatnot. look at the top guys, they're all very, very strong. rich froning overhead squats over 3 plates for reps, the AVERAGE clean and jerk for the guys at the CF games is around 315. this notion that crossfit is just a bunch of 140lb idiots flapping around is like judging powerlifting by the fatasses bounce benching 275.
the thing is, those videos? THEY'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT. with scant few exceptions like the very FIRST video which was a butterfly kip demonstration, you guys are posting up examples of it done WRONG and saying "see that's why this is bad." no, THAT VIDEO is bad.
will CF the fad die down? i sure fucking hope so. because it's trendy now you have ten million people doing it wrong and looking like idiots, giving the whole sport a bad name. at my gym there are two of us who CF and we're constantly getting poked at (in good humor, but still) for doing it.
you wanna see what crossfit can be? like, when it's done RIGHT? behold, king kong:
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okay i think we had different definitions for "fine". yeah, no doubt if you made the transition, a guy with your strength and conditioning could transition well. i did the same. my first workout was Murph some years ago (1 mile, 100pullups, 200 pushups, 300 air squats, 1 mile) and i did it in around 47 minutes. far from a record breaker, but for never having done it, not bad. i thought you meant you could hop on over to CF and start cleaning house. my mistake.
in FACT, most will say that having a solid strength base is far, FAR more important than being in good shape aerobically. so lifters tend to excel beyond runners and whatnot. look at the top guys, they're all very, very strong. rich froning overhead squats over 3 plates for reps, the AVERAGE clean and jerk for the guys at the CF games is around 315. this notion that crossfit is just a bunch of 140lb idiots flapping around is like judging powerlifting by the fatasses bounce benching 275.
the thing is, those videos? THEY'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT. with scant few exceptions like the very FIRST video which was a butterfly kip demonstration, you guys are posting up examples of it done WRONG and saying "see that's why this is bad." no, THAT VIDEO is bad.
will CF the fad die down? i sure fucking hope so. because it's trendy now you have ten million people doing it wrong and looking like idiots, giving the whole sport a bad name. at my gym there are two of us who CF and we're constantly getting poked at (in good humor, but still) for doing it.
you wanna see what crossfit can be? like, when it's done RIGHT? behold, king kong:
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Krank and mangoo proving the crossfitter stereotype on this thread.
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I wish the Horse would kick back. :-\
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I swear I need to start up my Slave Labor/Plantation Camp. Paying me to live like an Authentic Slave while I get all my work done.
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I wish the Horse would kick back. :-\
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Wtf??? Why?
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EL O EL This was on a Crossfit Owner/Head Trainer`s page.
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just out of curiosity what's the issue here? are you actually mocking an older woman for exercising? ???
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Krank and mangoo proving the crossfitter stereotype on this thread.
which is what? what stereotype are you talking? neither of us have said, even once, that crossfit is the be all and end all of exercise, neither of us have shit on other types of training. meanwhile, it's you and others who won't stop mocking crossfit and then acting like we're the assholes for defending it.
so... what exactly is the stereotype we're proving?
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did you read the story behind this picture? the dude took his dog for a hike and it had a hard time with the heat, so he carried it back to the car. he was saying that thanks to getting in shape, he was able to do so. that's not a "workout" dude. come on, you're smarter than this. i give you credit for being a bright guy, it is BAFFLING me that you're being so intentionally obtuse.
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Crossfit is a great idea, just poor execution.
Olympic lifts for reps are always bad.
Disregarding proper form is always bad.
Without periodization there is no progress.
You cannot achieve many goals at once. You have to switch between endurance, strength and so on in order to get strong and fit. Even strongman competitors on botloads of drugs periodize.
BTW, I was amazed that Rich Froning is only like 10-20kg away from me on each lift. I thought he's stronger. And he's waaay heavier than me...
Generally speaking, all "crossfitters" at my gym does clean and jerks. Often with moderate or heavy weight in high rep ranges (4x12 or such).
They usually mix it up so they do those kipping pullups and box jumping, or squats, between the sets of Olympic lifting.
Some of them look like they have NO idea what they're doing and should use a lighter weight.
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Generally speaking, all "crossfitters" at my gym does clean and jerks. Often with moderate or heavy weight in high rep ranges (4x12 or such).
They usually mix it up so they do those kipping pullups and box jumping or squats between the sets of Olympic lift.
Some of them look like they have NO idea what they ate doing and should use a lighter weight.
and like krank and i keep saying, that's an example of people who don't know what they're doing. like saying "all the 'bodybuilders' at my gym sit on nautilus machines drinking cell tech" and then extrapolating that to mean all bodybuilders are morons who do nothing but pump on machines and eat dianabol like candy.
a lot of them have no idea what they're doing. but if you watch everyone ELSE at the gym, they're ALSO idiots who have no idea what they're doing. the only difference is that it's a lot more difficult to ignore when someone is doing cleans badly as opposed to someone sitting off to the side with 8lb dumbbells trying to "feel the burn" on a set of goddamn zottman curls or something. :))
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I have friends that do CrossFit. Not for me and I prefer HIT or the style of training that's called "Dinosaur Training". I suppose one could say there isn't a "right" way to train.
But there certainly seems to be a consensus that there's a lot of "wrong" ways to do so. ;)
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which is what? what stereotype are you talking? neither of us have said, even once, that crossfit is the be all and end all of exercise, neither of us have shit on other types of training. meanwhile, it's you and others who won't stop mocking crossfit and then acting like we're the assholes for defending it.
so... what exactly is the stereotype we're proving?
That you're acting like little babys with your hurt feelings cause someone mocked something you're interested in.
Need a tissue? :'(
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and like krank and i keep saying, that's an example of people who don't know what they're doing. like saying "all the 'bodybuilders' at my gym sit on nautilus machines drinking cell tech" and then extrapolating that to mean all bodybuilders are morons who do nothing but pump on machines and eat dianabol like candy.
a lot of them have no idea what they're doing. but if you watch everyone ELSE at the gym, they're ALSO idiots who have no idea what they're doing. the only difference is that it's a lot more difficult to ignore when someone is doing cleans badly as opposed to someone sitting off to the side with 8lb dumbbells trying to "feel the burn" on a set of goddamn zottman curls or something. :))
Yes, like I posted earlier. It's not better to bodybuild than to do crossfit, whatever you want to do.
However, personally, I don't like the trend and it takes up space in my gym so I enjoy mocking it. And like you said yourself, when you're doing it wrong, you look like a bigger idiot following a craze like this.
Please, indulge me since you do it.. Tell me, what is the goal with choosing crossfit as your excercise??? Strength? Endurance? Looking cool infront of other crossfitters? Preparing for a hinder course? I want to understand this
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Krank and mangoo proving the crossfitter stereotype on this thread.
Nothing could be further from the truth cankles. Show me how I am the stereotypical one....
1) I blast a lot of idiocy that has come out of it
2) I rip on the terms they use
3) I rip on some of their workouts
Yeah, thats stereotypical ::) You whine and cry WAY more about GH15 than we do when someone bring up CF.
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I just dont like that these people are acting like thwy are doing something revolutionary.
I am not CF - but i try to mix t all up to be well rounded - why try to attach myself to a group cause i simply want to be well rounded?
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Wtf??? Why?
Crossfit. That's why.
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What would be accurate?...look at some videos posted. sure Bodybuilders use some loose form too but come on Krank...you know what i am getting at. like i wrote i have nothing against you or your training methods and do look at your training log now and again. The video posted "Albany crossfit" is an accident waiting to go off...FFS.. ::) do not take it so personal. what is correct form..i am sure i do not need to write a long drawn out post on that. You know what good form is.
I know what good form is and its PREVALENT in anything. Just do a youtube search for "gym fail" will produce more results than "crossfit fail" (369,000 vs 51,000).
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Whats your point posting these pics? Should these people not be doing this stuff? Should they just sit and play the pity card for the condition they are in?
Generally speaking, all "crossfitters" at my gym does clean and jerks. Often with moderate or heavy weight in high rep ranges (4x12 or such).
They usually mix it up so they do those kipping pullups and box jumping, or squats, between the sets of Olympic lifting.
Some of them look like they have NO idea what they're doing and should use a lighter weight.
A retarded CFer then. Seriously. Only one that doesn't know what they are doing would train in that rep range.
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I just dont like that these people are acting like thwy are doing something revolutionary.
I am not CF - but i try to mix t all up to be well rounded - why try to attach myself to a group cause i simply want to be well rounded?
but that's just it, those are the worst it has to offer. they're like back when the paleo diet first appeared and people acted like they were on the forefront of a paradigm shift in diet health or something. :)) (disclaimer, i do paleo/primal, i just don't believe it's anything special)
they're like bodybuilders who stand in front of the mirror flexing and talking about how "i really need to target my biceps peak", or powerlifters who eat six banana splits for dessert and then waddle into the monolift wearing kevlar squat suits with reverse bands and then talk about how they "squatted" 1100 pounds.
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but that female does appear to have a pretty nice ass on her 8)
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did you read the story behind this picture? the dude took his dog for a hike and it had a hard time with the heat, so he carried it back to the car. he was saying that thanks to getting in shape, he was able to do so. that's not a "workout" dude. come on, you're smarter than this. i give you credit for being a bright guy, it is BAFFLING me that you're being so intentionally obtuse.
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THAT dog has NO business in that terrain in that kind of shape in that kind of heat. No protection on its feet either from the heat-burned pads-jagged terrain. Where the hell is the water for the dog? ??? Arguably animal abuse if you ask me. I feel sorry for the dog that he had to be subjected to that guys bullshit to be honest with you. That and the fact he is overfeeding it.
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but that's just it, those are the worst it has to offer. they're like back when the paleo diet first appeared and people acted like they were on the forefront of a paradigm shift in diet health or something. :)) (disclaimer, i do paleo/primal, i just don't believe it's anything special)
they're like bodybuilders who stand in front of the mirror flexing and talking about how "i really need to target my biceps peak", or powerlifters who eat six banana splits for dessert and then waddle into the monolift wearing kevlar squat suits with reverse bands and then talk about how they "squatted" 1100 pounds.
I think they should just promote being a well rounded overall athelete and fitness plus strength vs the "We know something no one else does" type thing that gets under the skins of so many.
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I know what good form is and its PREVALENT in anything. Just do a youtube search for "gym fail" will produce more results than "crossfit fail" (369,000 vs 51,000).
Whats your point posting these pics? Should these people not be doing this stuff? Should they just sit and play the pity card for the condition they are in?
A retarded CFer then. Seriously. Only one that doesn't know what they are doing would train in that rep range.
The point is that there is a ton of comedy gold here. Krank, my friend, its okay to laugh at all these morons. The Crossfit Mafia is not going to get you! 8)
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I think they should just promote being a well rounded overall athelete and fitness plus strength vs the "We know something no one else does" type thing that gets under the skins of so many.
they should. no arguments here. one of the worst parts of CF is that it's exploited as a business a lot of the time. it costs like $150/mo to join a CF gym and it ends up being almost cult-like in how it's put together. so instead of promoting it as it is, they make it sound secretive and revolutionary to get people to pay the fees. it's bullshit. but "crossfit" as an activity is pretty awesome.
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The point is that there is a ton of comedy gold here. Krank, my friend, its okay to laugh at all these morons. The Crossfit Mafia is not going to get you! 8)
but you're not going "man crossfit is cool, but look at these idiots" you're going "crossfit is retarded just look at these guys". how can you seriously not see why this is irking krank and me?
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Seems to me that "Embracing Violence" probably is the reason he is missing that there leg. ;)
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they should. no arguments here. one of the worst parts of CF is that it's exploited as a business a lot of the time. it costs like $150/mo to join a CF gym and it ends up being almost cult-like in how it's put together. so instead of promoting it as it is, they make it sound secretive and revolutionary to get people to pay the fees. it's bullshit. but "crossfit" as an activity is pretty awesome.
The one near me is like 250 a month. I go to NYSC for 70 a month or so and do all the same stuff and have a pool, can go to other nysc, go and come as i please, etc /
For the kettlebell battle rope stuff - i bought all that stuff on my own, tossed it into a GI Bag and take it to the local track and go wild for 2 hours
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but you're not going "man crossfit is cool, but look at these idiots" you're going "crossfit is retarded just look at these guys". how can you seriously not see why this is irking krank and me?
I`ve said some of it is good and I also said a lot of it is horseshit and many who do it are cultish morons. Its all of those things.
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The one near me is like 250 a month. I go to NYSC for 70 a month or so and do all the same stuff and have a pool, can go to other nysc, go and come as i please, etc /
For the kettlebell battle rope stuff - i bought all that stuff on my own, tossed it into a GI Bag and take it to the local track and go wild for 2 hours
Goddamn, I need to open my Slave Labor/Plantation Camp then if I can milk 250 out of people for lifting logs and digging ditches and splitting wood.
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but you're not going "man crossfit is cool, but look at these idiots" you're going "crossfit is retarded just look at these guys". how can you seriously not see why this is irking krank and me?
Crossfit appears dangerous, and does not seem to have the research to back its efficacy. I mean, you cannot even compare the trainers who train olympic athletes compared to these crossfit trainers. ridiculous.
Makimba Mimms, who suffered injuries while performing a CrossFit workout on December 11, 2005, at Manassas World Gym in Manassas, VA under the supervision of an uncertified trainer,[39] claimed that CrossFit poses an elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis. He successfully sued his trainers and was awarded $300,000 in damages.[40]
According to Dr. Stuart McGill, a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, the risk of injury from some CrossFit exercises outweighs their benefits when they are performed with poor form in timed workouts. He added there are similar risks in other exercise programs but noted that CrossFit's online community enables athletes to follow the program without proper guidance, increasing the risk.[41]
Articles on many websites criticize CrossFit for its lack of periodization, lack of quality-control accreditation standards for trainers or affiliates, and illogical or random exercise sequences.[28][42]
Some publications have raised concerns that CrossFit promotes a potentially dangerous atmosphere that encourages people, particularly newcomers to CrossFit, to train past their limits, resulting in injury.[43][44]
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5 Reasons Why CrossFit Sucks and Drives Me Nuts
This article is geared toward the coaches/owners and not necessarily those who perform it.
I hate CrossFit. Period. Yes, I know there are probably thousands of women out there saying "OMG. What are you talking about? CrossFit is like so totally bitchin." If you are someone who thinks this, you need to continue reading. If you are someone who performs CrossFit workouts, you need to continue reading. If you are someone who just wants to gain some knowledge, you need to continue reading.
CrossFit has swept the nation over the past couple of years as one of the biggest training fads there has ever been in the industry. People have fallen in love with the idea of a fast, high intensity workout aimed around increasing "EPOC" that they think will fix everything for them in an instant. However, there are many things CrossFitters do not know or ever realize about their training.
Reason 1: The majority of CrossFit coaches out there are simply not qualified professionals.
That's right folks. Pretty bold statement, I know. The fact of the matter is, pretty much any Joe Schmoe out there is capable of becoming a CrossFit Trainer. All it takes is a weekend long course with a 50 question multiple choice quiz to become certified. You are not required to have any type of education or background in the field prior to becoming certified. Compare this to the rigorous demands of gaining any certification through the National Strength and Conditioning Association and there is no comparison. The truth which underlies here is the fact that we have unqualified people off the street who have a random degree in Art or some other weird shit teaching people olympic lifts. "Hmmm....You know I just woke up this morning and decided it would be really cool to teach people terrible form so they can hurt themselves." Sure, there are some good and probably great CrossFit coaches out there who periodize the program and tailor it to their clients to make it safe and effective and do it the right way. This is more for those 99% of so called "coaches" who do not have the slightest clue about anything they are preaching. They have no idea of proper technique, how to program design (besides downloading workouts from the internet), how to coach effectively, and have no idea how to even begin to describe what energy systems or principle/capacity they are training.
Reason 2: Olympic Lifts are not meant to be done for an infinite amount of reps or against a clock in a rushed manner.
Olympic Lifts consist of the clean, jerk, and snatch. The two competition lifts consisting of the clean and jerk and snatch. These lifts require the strictest technique and form and the right training. When effectively designing a program, any good trainer or strength coach knows that power exercises always ,always, always comes first before anything else (i.e. You would never want to do max effort deadlifts or squats or train for endurance and then go perform heavy sets of power cleans or snatches). If this is done, you are setting yourself up for fatigue neurologically and muscular. Take this sample CrossFit Workout of the Day. Perform 6x3 of max effort deadlifts followed by 3 snatches, 6 pushups, and 9 jump squats continuous for 15 minutes. Or if that is not enough for you then.....run 1 mile, 155 pound Clean and jerk for 21 reps, run 800 meters ,155 pound Clean and jerk for 21 reps, run 1 more mile. Wow, I think I just got dumber. When performing any type of Olympic Lift, most likely you are training for power. Training for power occurs in rep ranges of 1-5 at a relative 30% of your maximum for a conditioning sense or at 80-90% with rest periods of 2-5 minutes in between sets. Performing more than this will only set your nervous system up for fatigue and induce bad form or injury.
Reason 3 : CrossFit is not functional so stop claiming it is.
When working with any client, the first concern should be to properly assess them and find out what muscular imbalances they have, postural faults, and what type of movement patterns they have. There are six basic movement patterns: squat, lower pull, upper pull, press, locomotion, and rotation. Then all of these can be split into either unilateral or bilateral (i.e. BL=squat, UL=lunge). Now, the most common things I see in people who come to work with me is quad dominance, poor glute medius function, weak obliques, and kyphosis with upper trap dominance. From these come about bad movement patterns and the inability to properly move through the hips, stabilize their trunk, and stabilize their knee. The glute medius is a very important muscle on the side of the hip which holds many important actions. The one we will focus on here and in the video below is knee stabilization. If the glute medius muscle is weak then the result will be a lot of shifting and uncontrol at the knee. Keep these in mind when watching the video below. The lady in the blue has terrible knee stabilization and her knees caves in everytime as she lands and comes up from the squat. The lady in the black has terrible stability and extension in her thoracic spine and is continually letting her thoracic spine cave over. Not to mention, the fact that these problems worsen as they perform rep after rep after rep and the "coach" just stands there and says "more speed."
Reason 4: Adding speed to bad movement patterns and form is BAD.
As mentioned previously, the majority of the population out there have terrible habits. When someone does not know how to effectively stabilize their trunk or knee, or even move through the hips for that matter, then why in the world would you have them running, jumping, and performing Olympic Lifts. If you spend some time on the internet you will come across photos and videos of CrossFitters squatting onto their toes through their quads, deadlifting with a rounded back, and performing some kind of a weird attempt of a clean while practically falling on their face. If someone does not know how to perform these basic movements, then how do you expect them to perform a power clean. When adding speed to these inefficient patterns, you become unaware of what your body is doing and are only setting yourself up to strain something, or tear an ACL. Before teaching anyone to clean or snatch, I first must coach them on how to properly squat and pull. After mastering unilateral and bilateral variations of these movements, then I would first need to teach the person how to perform a High Pull and then maybe a Hang Clean. A High Pull is a good way to incorporate the triple extension through the ankle, hip, and knee before progressing someone to a clean.
Reason 5: Plateau, Plateau, Plateau
Add on the first four reasons and now we have the term "plateau" come into play. What is plateau? Plateauing can come about from over training, staleness, and just stupid ineffective training programs. "I've done the same workout everyday for the past 2 months. Why am I not seeing anymore results?" Within the first few weeks of a new training program, initial adaptations are made through the nervous system. Your nervous system is better prepared to handle the overload and can effectively recruit the right muscle fibers. After a few weeks of doing Workout A, your body becomes used to the workout and is no longer being applied any type of overload or progression. Therefore, you hit a brick wall and regress. In terms of CrossFit. We will talk about over training. Over training can occur from a multiple of ways. Not enough rest, too much stress, too much work, monotonous training, etc. CrossFit in no way teaches their CrossFitters anything about the proper way to train or rest. When working out, we create small micro-tears in our muscle fibers which induce adhesions, scar tissue build up, and inflammation in our fascia lines. This is one reason as to why we feel sore 24-72 hours after working out. When giving your muscles an insufficient amount of time to recover, you are just continually depleting your muscle tissue. Also, CrossFit mainly applies high intensity circuits which take a serious toll on the nervous system. In order to contract a muscle, we need our brain to signal our motor units to excite the muscle and engage the binding process through actin and myosin to contract the muscle. When our nervous system becomes fatigued, our muscles can no longer contract effectively or be prepared. Therefore, performing crazy, max effort workouts too many times per week will deplete your muscle tissue and fatigue your nervous system. We become stronger at rest when we let our body realize the adaptations we just provided it with. This is why many CrossFitters plateau out after about a month or so or become injured and stop seeing continual gains in their training.
If you are still along with me on this lengthy article then you just won a prize. Not really, but that would have been nice.
So, the next time you are thinking about diving into CrossFit. Get help from a qualified professional and train HARD and SMART.
Cheers Readers.
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just out of curiosity what's the issue here? are you actually mocking an older woman for exercising? ???
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Susan Boyle seems to be PWNING the others, eye of the tiger and all. :D
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I`ve said some of it is good and I also said a lot of it is horseshit and many who do it are cultish morons. Its all of those things.
all i've seen around here is "look at these crossfit idiots". you'll comb through the mainsite (hint: there's more than just crossfit.com) for a while and post all the pictures just to make fun of 'em, but i have yet to see you ONE TIME put up a video or picture and say "check this awesome shit out".
i dunno man, i'm done arguing with you about this. was a fun little weekend since i finally had downtime from work, but i feel like i'm just yelling at the tide to stop coming in at this point. so i'll just respectfully bow out.
The one near me is like 250 a month. I go to NYSC for 70 a month or so and do all the same stuff and have a pool, can go to other nysc, go and come as i please, etc /
For the kettlebell battle rope stuff - i bought all that stuff on my own, tossed it into a GI Bag and take it to the local track and go wild for 2 hours
yeah the other dude at my gym who does CF and i bring some of our own equipment. we've got the gymnast rings, KBs, speed jump ropes, a couple other odds and ends. i'd rather spend $30/mo like i do and supply some of my own shit than drop eight times that for access to someone else's.
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Makimba Mimms, who suffered injuries while performing a CrossFit workout on December 11, 2005, at Manassas World Gym in Manassas, VA under the supervision of an uncertified trainer,[39] claimed that CrossFit poses an elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis. He successfully sued his trainers and was awarded $300,000 in damages.[40]
okay, so because ONE guy EIGHT years ago who was working out with an UNCERTIFIED trainer got hurt and sued, that means the program is bad?
holy shit, does that mean if i blow out a disc because an uncertified PL trainer had me squatting too heavy it means i can say powerlifting is bad for you? ::)
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all i've seen around here is "look at these crossfit idiots". you'll comb through the mainsite (hint: there's more than just crossfit.com) for a while and post all the pictures just to make fun of 'em, but i have yet to see you ONE TIME put up a video or picture and say "check this awesome shit out".
i dunno man, i'm done arguing with you about this. was a fun little weekend since i finally had downtime from work, but i feel like i'm just yelling at the tide to stop coming in at this point. so i'll just respectfully bow out.
yeah the other dude at my gym who does CF and i bring some of our own equipment. we've got the gymnast rings, KBs, speed jump ropes, a couple other odds and ends. i'd rather spend $30/mo like i do and supply some of my own shit than drop eight times that for access to someone else's.
Come on my friend, its not that serious. Have a laugh at it. You have to admit its funny.
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Yes, like I posted earlier. It's not better to bodybuild than to do crossfit, whatever you want to do.
However, personally, I don't like the trend and it takes up space in my gym so I enjoy mocking it. And like you said yourself, when you're doing it wrong, you look like a bigger idiot following a craze like this.
Please, indulge me since you do it.. Tell me, what is the goal with choosing crossfit as your excercise??? Strength? Endurance? Looking cool infront of other crossfitters? Preparing for a hinder course? I want to understand this
Yes and yes. Its a challenge. Ask a golfer why he golfs. Get better at something that you will never truly master.
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Yes and yes. Its a challenge. Ask a golfer why he golfs. Get better at something that you will never truly master.
exactly. i like the fact that i'm challenging myself in multiple directions. hit a deadlift PR one day, shave a minute off my murph time another day, get 100 unbroken double unders another day. being strong to me is no good if i get winded playing with my dogs, and what's the point of having big muscles when all they can do is leg extensions and cable crossovers? if that's what you like, more power to you, but i'd rather be at 12% bodyfat and be able to perform than be diced and unable.
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okay, so because ONE guy EIGHT years ago who was working out with an UNCERTIFIED trainer got hurt and sued, that means the program is bad?
holy shit, does that mean if i blow out a disc because an uncertified PL trainer had me squatting too heavy it means i can say powerlifting is bad for you? ::)
No, but olympic powerlifting has professional trainers who know their stuff! these are experts in regards to biomechanics, nutritions, exercise physiology, etc. The chances of being injured are drastically reduced, as opposed to these so called "expert" crossfit trainers.
How cant you see that difference?
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No, but olympic powerlifting has professional trainers who know their stuff! these are experts in regards to biomechanics, nutritions, exercise physiology, etc. The chances of being injured are drastically reduced, as opposed to these so called "expert" crossfit trainers.
How cant you see that difference?
because you're comparing apples and oranges here. you're talking uncertified idiots versus lifelong experts, that's not a critique of CF versus oly lifting, that's a problem with educated versus uneducated. the argument is just as valid if you replace "uncertified CF trainer" with "uncertified oly trainer". it has NOTHING to do with the difference between them.
besides, are you telling me that you consulted with expert personal trainers for every lift you do? did you go to louie simmons seminars before squatting? did you correspond with dave tate before you started benching? did you read up on the biomechanics of running before you started cardio? tell me, how much of your gym life has involved being trained by these experts?
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The point is that there is a ton of comedy gold here. Krank, my friend, its okay to laugh at all these morons. The Crossfit Mafia is not going to get you! 8)
Adam...I do laugh at the dumb ones. I wish I could punch every one of them in the face. Much like I felt like doing for every idiot I encoutered when competing in bodybuilding.
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because you're comparing apples and oranges here. you're talking uncertified idiots versus lifelong experts, that's not a critique of CF versus oly lifting, that's a problem with educated versus uneducated. the argument is just as valid if you replace "uncertified CF trainer" with "uncertified oly trainer". it has NOTHING to do with the difference between them.
besides, are you telling me that you consulted with expert personal trainers for every lift you do? did you go to louie simmons seminars before squatting? did you correspond with dave tate before you started benching? did you read up on the biomechanics of running before you started cardio? tell me, how much of your gym life has involved being trained by these experts?
No, but then again, regular lifting or powerlifting does not promote this...
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have you done any PL meets?
if tak, what's your numbers?
In competition 180kg squat, 125kg bench (LOL) and 210kg deadlift, 74kg class.
Piss poor tactics, my 130kg bench got 1:2 from referees for lifting my foot slightly... My in training best bench is 140kg :X
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No, but then again, regular lifting or powerlifting does not promote this...
(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/NikBruce_OHpistolonKB_2_th.jpg)
What is the fucking point of that? See that is why i stay far far far away from CF
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What is the fucking point of that? See that is why i stay far far far away from CF
there's no "point" to it. you will never, ever, EVER find a workout that says to do overhead one-legged squats on a ball. that workout does not exist because it would dangerous and have no benefits over doing shit normal-style. it's just someone screwing around in the gym, playing a game of "i wonder if i could do that".
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When you see dumb-ass photos like that it adds weight to the argument that CF was invented by physiotherapists and Chiropractors in order to give them an endless supply of customers.
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http://www.crossfitgotham.com/pricing-plans.html
$200 a month while i can pay $70 at NYSC? No thanks
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In competition 180kg squat, 125kg bench (LOL) and 210kg deadlift, 74kg class.
Piss poor tactics, my 130kg bench got 1:2 from referees for lifting my foot slightly... My in training best bench is 140kg :X
not bad numbers actually, especially since european judging is much stricter than american judging
when you say 74 kg class do you mean that you weighed 74 kg in the 75 kg class?
i'd make the 67.5 kg class coming down from about 73 kg and i'd make that weight in less than 24 hours just took a double dose of laxatives the night before weigh-in and i didn't eat or drink anything for about 16 hours prior to weigh-in (no diuretics were used)
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The fact that CF gyms are so expensive lead me to believe that they are just trying to market to a bunch of naive people who really do not know what they are doing. :-\ :-\
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Yes and yes. Its a challenge. Ask a golfer why he golfs. Get better at something that you will never truly master.
A golfer wants to get better at golf. Bodybuilders wants muscle, powerlifter to increase numbers, a runner wants to get faster. A crossfitter wants to get better at doing crossfit? :D
Sure, whatever rocks your boat. I'm sure crossfit is a good way to burn calories actually.
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Crossfit is for fags that can't lift heavy.
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I just do not understand why you cannot go into the gym and just lift weights?
What with all this "Insanity" P90X workouts, crossfit workouts, etc? It appears to be a seriously marketing ploy so people can get rich. You can easily achieve the same results with a $20.00 gym membership per month.
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The real crossfit 8)
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I just do not understand why you cannot go into the gym and just lift weights?
What with all this "Insanity" P90X workouts, crossfit workouts, etc? It appears to be a seriously marketing ploy so people can get rich. You can easily achieve the same results with a $20.00 gym membership per month.
The home workouts are good if you are stuck athome and want to follow something w minimal equipment.
The cross fit stuff i see just looks like you are begging for injury
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Crossfit is for fags that can't lift heavy.
it's like AJ's old circuit training protocol, except most trainees don't attempt to add weight to the bar
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not bad numbers actually, especially since european judging is much stricter than american judging
when you say 74 kg class do you mean that you weighed 74 kg in the 75 kg class?
i'd make the 67.5 kg class coming down from about 73 kg and i'd make that weight in less than 24 hours just took a double dose of laxatives the night before weigh-in and i didn't eat or drink anything for about 16 hours prior to weigh-in (no diuretics were used)
No, there's 74kg class here. IPF changed weight classes like 2 years ago.
Polish judging is stricter than international judging. I squat ATG. I weighted in at 72.8kg actually, dehydrated like fuck.
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I see all the CF people at the races and they are like a little clic. Dont see how well it helps them
Last one I did, which was my first one - i got top 13% out of 10,000 racers just doing my own mish mash of stuff.
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I`m selling a new line of crossfit outdoor cardio and strength training equipment, for only $425.00 I will ship one of our custom built steel units directly to your home. Guaranteed to build strength and speed in only minutes a day, for best results use for about an hour every 4 or 5 days.
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The home workouts are good if you are stuck athome and want to follow something w minimal equipment.
The cross fit stuff i see just looks like you are begging for injury
Exactly. I mean, if you have a newborn at home, then its fine to do that stuff. Working out is better than not working out.
I hear people talking about P90X insanity workouts, etc. They all tell me I should try it. I just smile and say, "no thanks." They all claim that it is such a hardcore work out. :-\ :-\
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No, there's 74kg class here. IPF changed weight classes like 2 years ago.
Polish judging is stricter than international judging. I squat ATG. I weighted in at 72.8kg actually, dehydrated like fuck.
so what's the next class down? is it still 67.5 kg?
and what kind of pull style you use?
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Exactly. I mean, if you have a newborn at home, then its fine to do that stuff. Working out is better than not working out.
I hear people talking about P90X insanity workouts, etc. They all tell me I should try it. I just smile and say, "no thanks." They all claim that it is such a hardcore work out. :-\ :-\
They are good for what they are - home workouts if you dont know what to do or seek something you cant do on your own
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Nothing could be further from the truth cankles. Show me how I am the stereotypical one....
1) I blast a lot of idiocy that has come out of it
2) I rip on the terms they use
3) I rip on some of their workouts
Yeah, thats stereotypical ::) You whine and cry WAY more about GH15 than we do when someone bring up CF.
Do you use Kleenex or store brand when you post ???
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Yes!
This is going to be part of my Slave Labor/Plantation workout
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Yes!
This is going to be part of my Slave Labor/Plantation workout
(http://mastorpatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rockbreaking.jpg)
TA-Fit - make the home DVD bro!
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Crossfit is just another excuse for people to be elitist or feel like special snow flakes. There is really no purpose to it bbut people don't know better.
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Lmao!!! How sad. Was no one there to fix their form? Embarrassing
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Albany Crossfit Strongman The worst weightlifting video in the history of weightlifting ;D
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Crossfit is for fags that can't lift heavy.
you're right. ::)
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Albany Crossfit Strongman The worst weightlifting video in the history of weightlifting ;D
brutal
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No, but olympic powerlifting has professional trainers who know their stuff! these are experts in regards to biomechanics, nutritions, exercise physiology, etc. The chances of being injured are drastically reduced, as opposed to these so called "expert" crossfit trainers.
How cant you see that difference?
To be fair, this is one of those "fish rots from the head down" things that destroys the whole thing. Originally when Crossfit started it was the head guy, Glassman, plus the logistics guys, and then a small group of coaches. Then as it grew things got worse.
They started offering "box gyms" to coaches, then to regular people, provided that they took Crossfit certificate programs, which at the time were run by mostly real coaches. Now here's where a big part of the bad training and programming started, there was overwhelming demand for these courses. Some weeks I remember coaches talking about 20 - 30 grand over a weekend. As the money started to roll in, Glassman, the logistics guys, and a couple of the coaches started to offer courses in everything, and more folks were bought in.
This also started to disrupt much of the actual good training advice that was going on there. As more box gyms were bought, and more courses were sold, more of these new trainers started to ask for time to promote their new businesses, and that's when it really started to get shitty. Instead of training that actually was decent, you got a lot of very lack luster trainers that were allowed main page access because of the money they were pumping into the business of Crossfit.
This also caused a balkanization inside of Crossfit that really did it a diservice. As more of these novice trainers were allowed to program Crossfit, the good ones that were there started to speak out against it, and then were branded traitors if they did. It got so bad that a couple of the coaches had troll accounts that they used to correct the bad info that was being put out on the site.
Also Crossfit has always been brand conscious, and it got a whole lot more aggressive with its censorship and insularity during this time. Even the tiniest perceived insult could develop into a multi - page dressing down on the mainsite, sometimes completely wiping out any reference to a person or product in the Crossfit online universe.
If you look at a timespan between 2006 - 2009, you'll see a pretty large split between the better coaches and Crossfit headquarters. This also helps explain why you'll see that a lot of named better coaches are there now sometimes move on to mostly other things, and sometimes just keep the name for marketing purposes.
There is good Crossfit stuff, but you got to dig for it now.
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lots of smart words
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Crossfit = complete and utter joke. Random shit and an injury waiting to happen.
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Crossfit = complete and utter joke. Random shit and an injury waiting to happen.
that is why i stay as far away from CF as possible. The crap i see screams for an ER
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Yes!
This is going to be part of my Slave Labor/Plantation workout
(http://mastorpatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rockbreaking.jpg)
Will you hire me for the job of Capt. Davies from Roots?
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Go and do some hard manual labour instead of working yourself into the ground doing random shit.
I have a crossfit gym close to where I live and every time I walk by I see these retards outside torturing themselves doing completely useless stuff. Go work on a farm or something. Do something productive with all that effort. Pathetic.
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Albany Crossfit Strongman The worst weightlifting video in the history of weightlifting ;D
Brilliant.
I dont understand why they are using massively over sized plates?....the weight is tiny so why not use the appropriate sized small metal plates?....it reinforces my belief that a lot of this is about ego and the plates are designed to look as big and impressive as possible while actually weighing fuck all.
One of the cross fit guys was in the gym deadlifting with what looked like a shit load of weight the other day, when he'd finished i wondered over to see how much he was lifting (they never clear their weights away by the way, its like that kind of thing is beneath them).....it was only 100kg/225lb but was made up of the thickest most comically oversized plates i've ever seen....why?
The first girl in the video above looks like she is using 4 plates a side for fucks sake....that should be 400lb....but its clearly not.
Why the fake plates?
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ok...ok... some exercises they do like rope climbing aint bad...give you nice lats and arms if you climb with just your arms.. ;)
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None of those idiots even look like they exercise.
And what's up with all the guys in shoulder-slings? :-X
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To be fair, this is one of those "fish rots from the head down" things that destroys the whole thing. Originally when Crossfit started it was the head guy, Glassman, plus the logistics guys, and then a small group of coaches. Then as it grew things got worse.
They started offering "box gyms" to coaches, then to regular people, provided that they took Crossfit certificate programs, which at the time were run by mostly real coaches. Now here's where a big part of the bad training and programming started, there was overwhelming demand for these courses. Some weeks I remember coaches talking about 20 - 30 grand over a weekend. As the money started to roll in, Glassman, the logistics guys, and a couple of the coaches started to offer courses in everything, and more folks were bought in.
This also started to disrupt much of the actual good training advice that was going on there. As more box gyms were bought, and more courses were sold, more of these new trainers started to ask for time to promote their new businesses, and that's when it really started to get shitty. Instead of training that actually was decent, you got a lot of very lack luster trainers that were allowed main page access because of the money they were pumping into the business of Crossfit.
This also caused a balkanization inside of Crossfit that really did it a diservice. As more of these novice trainers were allowed to program Crossfit, the good ones that were there started to speak out against it, and then were branded traitors if they did. It got so bad that a couple of the coaches had troll accounts that they used to correct the bad info that was being put out on the site.
Also Crossfit has always been brand conscious, and it got a whole lot more aggressive with its censorship and insularity during this time. Even the tiniest perceived insult could develop into a multi - page dressing down on the mainsite, sometimes completely wiping out any reference to a person or product in the Crossfit online universe.
If you look at a timespan between 2006 - 2009, you'll see a pretty large split between the better coaches and Crossfit headquarters. This also helps explain why you'll see that a lot of named better coaches are there now sometimes move on to mostly other things, and sometimes just keep the name for marketing purposes.
There is good Crossfit stuff, but you got to dig for it now.
Wow, crossfit is serious biddeness..
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Wow, crossfit is serious biddeness..
Lulz, I just feel bad for a lot of the old timers that were involved in it, having seen it grow in the last decade. There really were a lot of interesting and decent folks involved in it over the years.
The whole Crossfit story from beginning till now would actually make a good long form article, if you could find a reasonably objective source to write it. And not from an exercise perspective, but from a business and personal side.
Here's a business started by a reasonably unknown figure, with little more than an average gym that's managed to turn it into a mid 8 figure company based really on just a name and a general philosophy. And in the middle there was lots of sex and general rat fuckery amongst many of the main players.
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If you can't lift heavy weights then this is ok I guess.
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Lulz, I just feel bad for a lot of the old timers that were involved in it, having seen it grow in the last decade. There really were a lot of interesting and decent folks involved in it over the years.
The whole Crossfit story from beginning till now would actually make a good long form article, if you could find a reasonably objective source to write it. And not from an exercise perspective, but from a business and personal side.
Here's a business started by a reasonably unknown figure, with little more than an average gym that's managed to turn it into a mid 8 figure company based really on just a name and a general philosophy. And in the middle there was lots of sex and general rat fuckery amongst many of the main players.
It's same old story, it's been told many times.
Great idea, promising initial execution. Then money comes in, everything grows, guys in charge become greedy... I'm not blaming them for being so, I would do exactly same thing were I one of them.
Youtube, google, bodybuilding, esports...
Compare esports from early stage - from Thresh winning his Ferrari, great games betwee zero4, fatality then cooller and czm, boxer in starcraft, Jaedong till fucking League of Legends, World of Warcraft and other bullshit games.
From Reg Park to Sergio, Arnold, Nubret... to Branch fucking Warren.
From great site that provided many good quality videos to commercials, lags, errors.
From search engine to data mining, cryptic data storages holding every bit of information about you for the sake of "personalization" of results.
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okay i think we had different definitions for "fine". yeah, no doubt if you made the transition, a guy with your strength and conditioning could transition well. i did the same. my first workout was Murph some years ago (1 mile, 100pullups, 200 pushups, 300 air squats, 1 mile) and i did it in around 47 minutes. far from a record breaker, but for never having done it, not bad. i thought you meant you could hop on over to CF and start cleaning house. my mistake.
in FACT, most will say that having a solid strength base is far, FAR more important than being in good shape aerobically. so lifters tend to excel beyond runners and whatnot. look at the top guys, they're all very, very strong. rich froning overhead squats over 3 plates for reps, the AVERAGE clean and jerk for the guys at the CF games is around 315. this notion that crossfit is just a bunch of 140lb idiots flapping around is like judging powerlifting by the fatasses bounce benching 275.
the thing is, those videos? THEY'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT. with scant few exceptions like the very FIRST video which was a butterfly kip demonstration, you guys are posting up examples of it done WRONG and saying "see that's why this is bad." no, THAT VIDEO is bad.
will CF the fad die down? i sure fucking hope so. because it's trendy now you have ten million people doing it wrong and looking like idiots, giving the whole sport a bad name. at my gym there are two of us who CF and we're constantly getting poked at (in good humor, but still) for doing it.
you wanna see what crossfit can be? like, when it's done RIGHT? behold, king kong:
Cool. And i agree.
Heres my take on the CF "fails" and gym "fails"
Yeah, it's funny to watch some dude lose a squat and weights go flying, or bounce a bar off his throat on a bench fail....but heres the thing....they weren't doing anything retarded, they just fucked up, and need some guidance. Bench...Squat..totally normal shit you see in the gym every day.
Then you see crossfitters jumping rope on a bosu ball wearing a gas mask. ..under the supervision of a trainer. Or getting ran over by cars...with 50 people watching. It's the act itself that is idiotic, not the person just fucking up. There is no comparison , the inherent lunacy that is practiced by CFers is ridiculous...and it's all just for show. You want to increase your VO2 max....go for a run. Without a gas mask on and a chain around your neck...LOL.
AS far as CFers attitude...I have told this story before. I was working in a power rack, had my bag there, bottle..the whole nine. Bar loaded up...I go to the water fountain to fill my bottle. Went straight there and straight back, and these three crossfit chicks are setting up a circuit, and using the power rack I was working in as part of it. I very nicely (serious) inform them I wasnt done...and this chick says..with utter "fuck you" in her tone....."well you should have put a towel over the bar to indicate the machine is taken...we are using it now." To which I laughed in her face, picked up her water bottle and launched it across the gym, and proceeded to re-load my machine.
Thats extreme, but you cant tell.me crossfit doesnt have that, "we are so special" vibe..it's prevalent.
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No, but then again, regular lifting or powerlifting does not promote this...
(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/NikBruce_OHpistolonKB_2_th.jpg)
What the fuck does this accomplish? It would make sense if he were trying out for the traveling circus.
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Cool. And i agree.
Heres my take on the CF "fails" and gym "fails"
Yeah, it's funny to watch some dude lose a squat and weights go flying, or bounce a bar off his throat on a bench fail....but heres the thing....they weren't doing anything retarded, they just fucked up, and need some guidance. Bench...Squat..totally normal shit you see in the gym every day.
Then you see crossfitters jumping rope on a bosu ball wearing a gas mask. ..under the supervision of a trainer. Or getting ran over by cars...with 50 people watching. It's the act itself that is idiotic, not the person just fucking up. There is no comparison , the inherent lunacy that is practiced by CFers is ridiculous...and it's all just for show. You want to increase your VO2 max....go for a run. Without a gas mask on and a chain around your neck...LOL.
AS far as CFers attitude...I have told this story before. I was working in a power rack, had my bag there, bottle..the whole nine. Bar loaded up...I go to the water fountain to fill my bottle. Went straight there and straight back, and these three crossfit chicks are setting up a circuit, and using the power rack I was working in as part of it. I very nicely (serious) inform them I wasnt done...and this chick says..with utter "fuck you" in her tone....."well you should have put a towel over the bar to indicate the machine is taken...we are using it now." To which I laughed in her face, picked up her water bottle and launched it across the gym, and proceeded to re-load my machine.
Thats extreme, but you cant tell.me crossfit doesnt have that, "we are so special" vibe..it's prevalent.
Even if I was on a treadmill at mid run, I'd calmly hit the pause button, walk over to the area of where this situation occurred, extend my index finger in a pointing manner, and project an antagonizing laugh in that woman's face after witnessing that.
Nicely done sir...nicely done. 8)
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Cool. And i agree.
Heres my take on the CF "fails" and gym "fails"
Yeah, it's funny to watch some dude lose a squat and weights go flying, or bounce a bar off his throat on a bench fail....but heres the thing....they weren't doing anything retarded, they just fucked up, and need some guidance. Bench...Squat..totally normal shit you see in the gym every day.
Then you see crossfitters jumping rope on a bosu ball wearing a gas mask. ..under the supervision of a trainer. Or getting ran over by cars...with 50 people watching. It's the act itself that is idiotic, not the person just fucking up. There is no comparison , the inherent lunacy that is practiced by CFers is ridiculous...and it's all just for show. You want to increase your VO2 max....go for a run. Without a gas mask on and a chain around your neck...LOL.
AS far as CFers attitude...I have told this story before. I was working in a power rack, had my bag there, bottle..the whole nine. Bar loaded up...I go to the water fountain to fill my bottle. Went straight there and straight back, and these three crossfit chicks are setting up a circuit, and using the power rack I was working in as part of it. I very nicely (serious) inform them I wasnt done...and this chick says..with utter "fuck you" in her tone....."well you should have put a towel over the bar to indicate the machine is taken...we are using it now." To which I laughed in her face, picked up her water bottle and launched it across the gym, and proceeded to re-load my machine.
Thats extreme, but you cant tell.me crossfit doesnt have that, "we are so special" vibe..it's prevalent.
Right or wrong, the chick had a point. How were they supposed to know you were still on it?
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They all look like shit.
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Right or wrong, the chick had a point. How were they supposed to know you were still on it?
Maybe the gym bag , the belt and the 400 pounds on the machine ? If i was gone 5 minutes i could see it, I was gone a minute. And even so....if you went to use a machine and someone politely informed you they were still on it, you are gonna tell them "tough shit" ? I've NEVER done that. Gym etiquette
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It's same old story, it's been told many times.
Great idea, promising initial execution. Then money comes in, everything grows, guys in charge become greedy... I'm not blaming them for being so, I would do exactly same thing were I one of them.
Youtube, google, bodybuilding, esports...
Compare esports from early stage - from Thresh winning his Ferrari, great games betwee zero4, fatality then cooller and czm, boxer in starcraft, Jaedong till fucking League of Legends, World of Warcraft and other bullshit games.
From Reg Park to Sergio, Arnold, Nubret... to Branch fucking Warren.
From great site that provided many good quality videos to commercials, lags, errors.
From search engine to data mining, cryptic data storages holding every bit of information about you for the sake of "personalization" of results.
Great skills + loved how Carmack looked back then ;D
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I will beat the piss out of those fags.
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Crossfit appears dangerous, and does not seem to have the research to back its efficacy. I mean, you cannot even compare the trainers who train olympic athletes compared to these crossfit trainers. ridiculous.
Makimba Mimms, who suffered injuries while performing a CrossFit workout on December 11, 2005, at Manassas World Gym in Manassas, VA under the supervision of an uncertified trainer,[39] claimed that CrossFit poses an elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis. He successfully sued his trainers and was awarded $300,000 in damages.[40]
According to Dr. Stuart McGill, a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, the risk of injury from some CrossFit exercises outweighs their benefits when they are performed with poor form in timed workouts. He added there are similar risks in other exercise programs but noted that CrossFit's online community enables athletes to follow the program without proper guidance, increasing the risk.[41]
Articles on many websites criticize CrossFit for its lack of periodization, lack of quality-control accreditation standards for trainers or affiliates, and illogical or random exercise sequences.[28][42]
Some publications have raised concerns that CrossFit promotes a potentially dangerous atmosphere that encourages people, particularly newcomers to CrossFit, to train past their limits, resulting in injury.[43][44]
Wow...shall I pull out the risk/rewards of powerlifting? You site references yet fail to produce publication sited. You mention a case of someone suing, yet how many cases have you looked up with "regular" trainers injuring clients? None...
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No, but olympic powerlifting has professional trainers who know their stuff! these are experts in regards to biomechanics, nutritions, exercise physiology, etc. The chances of being injured are drastically reduced, as opposed to these so called "expert" crossfit trainers.
How cant you see that difference?
I don't recall there being anything called olympic powerlifting. I sure hope that you also go after the "expert personal fitness" trainers with the same voracity as you do a CF trainer. The gym trainers claim they are fitness experts too.
Just because someone is a professional trainer doesn't mean they are good.
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No, but then again, regular lifting or powerlifting does not promote this...
(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/NikBruce_OHpistolonKB_2_th.jpg)
Hmmmm.....she is definitely not going to build slabs of muscle on her pecs doing this...
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When you see dumb-ass photos like that it adds weight to the argument that CF was invented by physiotherapists and Chiropractors in order to give them an endless supply of customers.
When in the hell did ANYONE ever say that? Please, let the adults speak Jeff before you are left to start another thread about leaving.
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Crossfit is for fags that can't lift heavy.
I guess my 505 dead is "light" for you?
Whats your best Clean and Jerk? Best squat snatch? Oh wait, I bet you can swing DB's up for some 70lb curls....
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Do you use Kleenex or store brand when you post ???
For what?
BTW...I would like to invite you to the next CF games this summer. I wrote an e-mail and they want to use your head in one of the workouts for the ring toss for time. Don't worry, the rings will be rubber coated.
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The fact that CF gyms are so expensive lead me to believe that they are just trying to market to a bunch of naive people who really do not know what they are doing. :-\ :-\
So, I guess Lifetime fitness charging $79 a month (on the lower end) is not that far away from making big money in the gym industry.
(http://www.functionalfitmag.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Crossfit-marketing.001-001.jpg)
So, lets have one you experts out there point out the form flaws?
Brilliant.
I dont understand why they are using massively over sized plates?....the weight is tiny so why not use the appropriate sized small metal plates?....it reinforces my belief that a lot of this is about ego and the plates are designed to look as big and impressive as possible while actually weighing fuck all.
One of the cross fit guys was in the gym deadlifting with what looked like a shit load of weight the other day, when he'd finished i wondered over to see how much he was lifting (they never clear their weights away by the way, its like that kind of thing is beneath them).....it was only 100kg/225lb but was made up of the thickest most comically oversized plates i've ever seen....why?
The first girl in the video above looks like she is using 4 plates a side for fucks sake....that should be 400lb....but its clearly not.
Why the fake plates?
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OMG...Seriously? Have you never heard of bumper plates?? Do you see olympic lifters using "real" metal plates? Wow....the retard is extremely high in your post.
Groink...do you realize who actually started the whole gas mask thing? MMA guys. Look up Shawn Sherk and his training mask.
At this point I feel this thread has given me my mental workout for the day....I finished it in under 50 posts....a PR for me. I enjoy it. I am going to go grab me some cookies and some chips and watch The Dark Knight.
Chaos, try and elevate those feet once in a while....brings the ankle swelling down.
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Wow...shall I pull out the risk/rewards of powerlifting? You site references yet fail to produce publication sited. You mention a case of someone suing, yet how many cases have you looked up with "regular" trainers injuring clients? None...
Hey sausage tits,
Pointing out that something else is stupid doesn't make your thing any less stupid. This thread isn't a "bodybuilding and powerlifting are awesome" thread. It is a "Crossfit is retarded, queer and dangerous" thread. The photo and video evidence posted here is pretty conclusive. Crossfit is indefensible.
If people want to do something that is retarded, queer and dangerous then go for it. It's a free country. I'd just prefer they not strut around with a superiority complex about how intense and hardcore they are. Talk about a false sense of accomplishment.
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Hey sausage tits,
Pointing out that something else is stupid doesn't make your thing any less stupid. This thread isn't a "bodybuilding and powerlifting are awesome" thread. It is a "Crossfit is retarded, queer and dangerous" thread. The photo and video evidence posted here is pretty conclusive. Crossfit is indefensible.
If people want to do something that is retarded, queer and dangerous then go for it. It's a free country. I'd just prefer they not strut around with a superiority complex about how intense and hardcore they are. Talk about a false sense of accomplishment.
Hi Chaos.
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I guess my 505 dead is "light" for you?
Whats your best Clean and Jerk? Best squat snatch? Oh wait, I bet you can swing DB's up for some 70lb curls....
I'm proud of you.
Just admit that CF is retarded, queer and dangerous so we can all move on with our lives.
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Go and do some hard manual labour instead of working yourself into the ground doing random shit.
I have a crossfit gym close to where I live and every time I walk by I see these retards outside torturing themselves doing completely useless stuff. Go work on a farm or something. Do something productive with all that effort. Pathetic.
this is how ive felt and what ultimatly made me quit the gym, i was putting forth so much TIME and effort there that i couldve been getting alot more manual labor work done,
keep the lifting short and intense break it up 2 times a day but spend most of your time working manual labor
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Hey sausage tits,
Pointing out that something else is stupid doesn't make your thing any less stupid. This thread isn't a "bodybuilding and powerlifting are awesome" thread. It is a "Crossfit is retarded, queer and dangerous" thread. The photo and video evidence posted here is pretty conclusive. Crossfit is indefensible.
If people want to do something that is retarded, queer and dangerous then go for it. It's a free country. I'd just prefer they not strut around with a superiority complex about how intense and hardcore they are. Talk about a false sense of accomplishment.
Krank has a really impressive chest/pecs.
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Krank has a really impressive chest/pecs.
So go have sex with him. I'm not stopping you.
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None of those idiots even look like they exercise.
And what's up with all the guys in shoulder-slings? :-X
Classic douchebaggary. That entire CF world has mamnaged to make bumper plates uncool and for years bumper plates were just the opposite.
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chaos
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Chaos must be super awesome for you guys to compare him to me but I can assure you that I'm not him. For that matter I'm not a sockpuppet for anyone else. I'm only me, a serious pimp who looks like David Hasselhoff on steroids. Bitches love me. I get up in more pussy than a tampon. I've won the internet many times. I'm kind of a big deal.
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I swear I need to start up my Slave Labor/Plantation Camp. Paying me to live like an Authentic Slave while I get all my work done.
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Crossfit is just like Fight Club, except they all break rule #1.
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I laughed as well. Because there are retards in 'regular' gyms as well. The people getting buried under a smith machine squat are a nice example.
Naw, I think just comparing the things above would be enough embarrassment to you.
The whole "bet you can't" is just as prevalent in lifting/bodybuilding. "Any time you want to come to the gym and we can see who benches more" is quite common. I would have no problem calling anyone out if they said that doing some of this stuff would be easy yet has never tried it. People like that are just another version of an arm chair quarter back.
HA HA. So standing on stage in less than a bathing suit for mostly men is COMPLETELY and 100% heterosexual? Admiring guys who do that very thing and debate who has "the better physique" is simply intellectual? Ok...have it permafatty.
Much like the people dropping their bars on their throats in the gyms when they bench like idiots. That makes me laugh too
- For the people who say this is just a fad...Ummmm...bodybuildi ng is dying a nice death as well. The "boom" of the 80's/90's are over. People see that getting lean and staying in shape is not that hard. Its not the rocket science and for the "genetic elite" that the people in that era made it out to be. I am going to start posting some nice gym fails of the non CF training. I need a good laugh.
bodybuilding's been around since what, the 40's? it's not dying a nice anything anytime soon. and yes it's not that hard to stay lean and healthy. it's called get a $10 membership at gold's and do cardio three times a week instead of paying $200 bucks a month to do 300 kipping "pullups" and still look like a mediocre sack of shit.
and yes we all know there's retards in the gym too, those of us that actually GO to gyms make fun of them all the time. however going to the gym in itself doesn't inherently embrace and encourage being a retard the way crossfit does.
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;D
TA - you can get a tv show out of this.
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;D
TA - you can get a tv show out of this.
hahhaahh yes!!!!!
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Guess I'll make a "Video" and make $$
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hahhaahh yes!!!!!
Just get hipster white idiots from brooklyn or ohio to be the slaves doing the work so you can insulate yourself from the media shitstorm
Just frame it like you are tryi ng to see if people today could hack what the slaves of old went through
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Just get hipster white idiots from brooklyn or ohio to be the slaves doing the work so you can insulate yourself from the media shitstorm
Just frame it like you are tryi ng to see if people today could hack what the slaves of old went through
ROFLMAO. I KNOW it would work. Me and Johnny Falcon could just sit around in Linen suits and boss them around all day. Have things like a "Watermelon Challenge", "Speed Cotton Picking". Possibilities are endless.
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ROFLMAO. I KNOW it would work. Me and Johnny Falcon could just sit around in Linen suits and boss them around all day. Have things like a "Watermelon Challenge", "Speed Cotton Picking". Possibilities are endless.
House them in makeshift cabins, dig a well in the middle of the camp for water, etc Could a mix of real world, survivor, crossfit, TopShot, etc
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bodybuilding's been around since what, the 40's? it's not dying a nice anything anytime soon. and yes it's not that hard to stay lean and healthy. it's called get a $10 membership at gold's and do cardio three times a week instead of paying $200 bucks a month to do 300 kipping "pullups" and still look like a mediocre sack of shit.
and yes we all know there's retards in the gym too, those of us that actually GO to gyms make fun of them all the time. however going to the gym in itself doesn't inherently embrace and encourage being a retard the way crossfit does.
pretty much what I said.
A bench press isn't inherently stupid. Sure you will see the occasional idiot get buried under too much weight.
Standing one-legged on an exercise ball with a hundred pound bar overhead is fucking idiotic, and his "coach" told him to do it.
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Go and do some hard manual labour instead of working yourself into the ground doing random shit.
I have a crossfit gym close to where I live and every time I walk by I see these retards outside torturing themselves doing completely useless stuff. Go work on a farm or something. Do something productive with all that effort. Pathetic.
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did you read the story behind this picture? the dude took his dog friend for a hike and it had a hard time with the heat, so he carried it back to the car. he was saying that thanks to getting in shape, he was able to do so. that's not a "workout" dude. come on, you're smarter than this. i give you credit for being a bright guy, it is BAFFLING me that you're being so intentionally obtuse.
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it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever. Poor assholes will have painful last decades in their sad lives.
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it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever. Poor assholes will have painful last decades in their sad lives.
Ok...there were intelligent arguments, and not so intelligent comments in the thread. Hell even "the hills have eyes" chaos' comments were (at best) mildly amusing. You, my virginistic monkey fuck are just plain out of your league here. "break a spinal cord". Jesus in a hand basket....you sir are a moron. Go write another "girls and sons" diatribe so we can laugh at you some more.
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Ok...there were intelligent arguments, and not so intelligent comments in the thread. Hell even "the hills have eyes" chaos' comments were (at best) mildly amusing. You, my virginistic monkey fuck are just plain out of your league here. "break a spinal cord". Jesus in a hand basket....you sir are a moron. Go write another "girls and sons" diatribe so we can laugh at you some more.
Do you and Chiro take turns carrying each other around like that? :D
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Ok...there were intelligent arguments, and not so intelligent comments in the thread. Hell even "the hills have eyes" chaos' comments were (at best) mildly amusing. You, my virginistic monkey fuck are just plain out of your league here. "break a spinal cord". Jesus in a hand basket....you sir are a moron. Go write another "girls and sons" diatribe so we can laugh at you some more.
But he's right. The risk for injury with CrossFit is high - much higher than with normal, sensible exercise. This is obvious. Did you see all the guys with shoulder-slings on that video? :-X
CrossFit is a stupid fad where (in most cases) the risks outweigh the rewards. None of those idiots have impressive physiques or impressive strength, and they're doing real damage to their body. So what's the point? Just exercise properly, with progressive resistance and good form, and do some cardio. It's not rocket science, and it's proven and time-tested.
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But he's right. The risk for injury with CrossFit is high - much higher than with normal, sensible exercise. This is obvious. Did you see all the guys with shoulder-slings on that video? :-X
CrossFit is a stupid fad where (in most cases) the risks outweigh the rewards. None of those idiots have impressive physiques or impressive strength, and they're doing real damage to their body. So what's the point? Just exercise properly, with progressive resistance and good form, and do some cardio. It's not rocket science, and it's proven and time-tested.
Ooh, but that's not edgy and intense. How am I supposed feel superior to others if I'm doing something traditional.
I want to bang on a big tire with a sledge hammer. Derp!
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it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever. Poor assholes will have painful last decades in their sad lives.
it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever.
fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
break a bone or their spinal cord
"BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD"
-Uberman
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Do you and Chiro take turns carrying each other around like that? :D
Yes we do actually. Krank always wants to play "Honk the Weiner" and I always refuse, so we meet halfway and settle on this athletic feat you speak of.
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shit 14 pages! :) ... knew I saw this thread.
I was going to start a thread... I'll read this then see what I have to say.
I hate this shit.
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shit 14 pages! :) ... knew I saw this thread.
I was going to start a thread... I'll read this then see what I have to say.
I hate this shit.
I am commencing holding of breath in anticipation.
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hopefully that crossfit has kept you in shape. read it when I feel like it.
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shit 14 pages! :) ... knew I saw this thread.
I was going to start a thread... I'll read this then see what I have to say.
I hate this shit.
yeah its the same ol 14 pages of guys worrying about what crossfitters do at crossfit gyms instead of worrying about what they do at their own gym. my favorite are the guys who have never stepped foot inside a crossfit gym posting that the top 10 guys from the crossfit games "don't train crossfit". LOL!!
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it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever.
fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
break a bone or their spinal cord
"BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD"
-Uberman
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it s all fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord or whatever.
fun and games until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
until some of these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
these idiots break a bone or their spinal cord
break a bone or their spinal cord
"BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD"
-Uberman
Lmao, hahahaha
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hopefully that crossfit has kept you in shape. read it when I feel like it.
Still.......holding..... .breath.......
Carbon Dioxide.......building up......cant......last.. ......much.........longe r
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yeah its the same ol 14 pages of guys worrying about what crossfitters do at crossfit gyms instead of worrying about what they do at their own gym. my favorite are the guys who have never stepped foot inside a crossfit gym posting that the top 10 guys from the crossfit games "don't train crossfit". LOL!!
Lol, the top 10 guys from the crossfit games. ::)
Fuck the top 10 guys from the crossfit games. Fuck them in their stupid asses.
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Lol, the top 10 guys from the crossfit games. ::)
Fuck the top 10 guys from the crossfit games. Fuck them in their stupid asses.
Sounds like you want to tell us something?
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Sounds like you want to tell us something?
Yes, I want to tell you all that these top 10 "athletes", lol, are retarded. They should be mocked vigorously and their training methods should be widely discredited. Oh wait, they already have been mocked and discredited. My bad, I guess this post is redundant.
In other news, I just did 500 pushups in a row without stopping. The range of motion was about three inches. All I need now is someone to videotape me doing it so I can win a medal. I'm hardcore, intense and much tougher than people that exercise in a traditional manner. I think I'm going to print up a bunch of t-shirts, posters and bumper stickers with obnoxious, self-serving slogans on them. I'm an athlete. Self esteem, yay!!!
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Yes, I want to tell you all that these top 10 "athletes", lol, are retarded. They should be mocked vigorously and their training methods should be widely discredited. Oh wait, they already have been mocked and discredited. My bad, I guess this post is redundant.
In other news, I just did 500 pushups in a row without stopping. The range of motion was about three inches. All I need now is someone to videotape me doing it so I can win a medal. I'm hardcore, intense and much tougher than people that exercise in a traditional manner. I think I'm going to print up a bunch of t-shirts, posters and bumper stickers with obnoxious, self-serving slogans on them. I'm an athlete. Self esteem, yay!!!
No, you were talking about fucking people in the ass....is there a closet door around you that you want to walk through?
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No, you were talking about fucking people in the ass....is there a closet door around you that you want to walk through?
That shit piqued your curiosity didn't it? I wonder why? Somebody mentions fucking someone in the ass and you perk right up.
I'm sorry to disappoint but I was saying fuck them in the figurative sense.
FUCK
July 6, 2011 Urban Dictionary Word of the Day
1. The universally recognized "F word"
2. N. Implying complete and utter confusion
3. N. a really stupid person
4. V. To procreate
5. adj. Can be used to modify any word for more passion
6. Int. Expresses disgust
7. Int. Expresses complete suprise and joy
8. adv. Can be used to make a command more urgent
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These x-fit clowns can name that movement butterfly amazingmonkeyflyingfuck whatever the fuck they wanna call it, but don't call it "pull up". putting "butterfly" in front of "pullup" doesn't make it any better of an excuse. Get that monkey swinging BS shit outta here.
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That shit piqued your curiosity didn't it? I wonder why? Somebody mentions fucking someone in the ass and you perk right up.
I'm sorry to disappoint but I was saying fuck them in the figurative sense.
FUCK
July 6, 2011 Urban Dictionary Word of the Day
1. The universally recognized "F word"
2. N. Implying complete and utter confusion
3. N. a really stupid person
4. V. To procreate
5. adj. Can be used to modify any word for more passion
6. Int. Expresses disgust
7. Int. Expresses complete suprise and joy
8. adv. Can be used to make a command more urgent
You post is somewhat akin to the term "back peddling". Saying you "don't give a fuck" or "what the fuck is that" would have been an acceptable usage applying #6. You saying that a competitor need to be "fucked in the ass" was more like #5 or #8. It really couldn't be #4 (entirely) simply because having sex that way would not be pro-creating. In any event, the manner in which you said it always conveys that wish to be the one performs said act. It only 'piqued' my curiosity to the point that we were discussing the performing of non sexual activities. You came from left field with your command.
Again, is there something you are really trying to say? ???
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These x-fit clowns can name that movement butterfly amazingmonkeyflyingfuck whatever the fuck they wanna call it, but don't call it "pull up". putting "butterfly" in front of "pullup" doesn't make it any better of an excuse. Get that monkey swinging BS shit outta here.
Better of an excuse?
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You post is somewhat akin to the term "back peddling". Saying you "don't give a fuck" or "what the fuck is that" would have been an acceptable usage applying #6. You saying that a competitor need to be "fucked in the ass" was more like #5 or #8. It really couldn't be #4 (entirely) simply because having sex that way would not be pro-creating. In any event, the manner in which you said it always conveys that wish to be the one performs said act. It only 'piqued' my curiosity to the point that we were discussing the performing of non sexual activities. You came from left field with your command.
Again, is there something you are really trying to say? ???
If you are trying to be a troll you are doing it wrong. Your posts neither own nor amuse.
Better luck next time. Now go and do another useless momentum exercise.
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If you are trying to be a troll you are doing it wrong. Your posts neither own nor amuse.
Better luck next time. Now go and do another useless momentum exercise.
Hardly trolling sir. My intent was to try and ascertain why you wanted to do what you said you wanted to do. There is no amusement in this as you appear to be very serious right now.
If it helps you any, I am not planning on doing that momentum exercise today. Its some olympic lifting work for me today. I have my routine set up, no need for your input. Thank you anyway.
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I'm sure you'll get in a few sets of hummingbird power cleans or tinkerbell deadlifts. Enjoy!
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I'm sure you'll get in a few sets of hummingbird power cleans or tinkerbell deadlifts. Enjoy!
You've returned!! Rejoice!! Are you ready to admit your penchant and latent desire for anal sex with anyone who does crossfit? I will tell you sir I am not into that sexual act. I am sure you can find some willing participant in your gym that can satisfy your every desire.
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And not a single rep was performed that day
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You've returned!! Rejoice!! Are you ready to admit your penchant and latent desire for anal sex with anyone who does crossfit? I will tell you sir I am not into that sexual act. I am sure you can find some willing participant in your gym that can satisfy your every desire.
You know what I like about you? Your dedication. You write something that isn't funny and you just repeat it hoping that you will eventually get a laugh. Much like your commitment to Crossfit. The entire world thinks that it's a phony sport for weak, insecure douchebags but yet you continue to defend it. Say what you will about Krankenstein but at least he's not a quitter.
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And not a single rep was performed that day
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You know what I like about you? Your dedication. You write something that isn't funny and you just repeat it hoping that you will eventually get a laugh. Much like your commitment to Crossfit. The entire world thinks that it's a phony sport for weak, insecure douchebags but yet you continue to defend it. Say what you will about Krankenstein but at least he's not a quitter.
You like me? Oh great, I will not have to go through the trouble of having Chiro find out if you like me, but not to tell you I like you until he finds out you like me first.
Sorry, but bodybuilding has the lock on the moniker of a phony sport with insecure douche bags. I was down at the Northwest Regional Games this past weekend and want to know something? There were more people there on a SUNDAY watching than there are at National level bodybuilding shows. So, if the whole world thinks its a joke...what were they doing there? Please answer that one.
In addition, there were TONS of hot chicks (I am sure you would have enjoyed the guys) there and I didn't have to think twice if they were packing something between their legs that would put my trouser worm to shame. There was no douchey talk about how their coach dropped their carbs below 40gm a day in order to "bring out more striations", no mention of someone placing higher because she was fucking a judge, etc. Best of all I didn't have to sit there and watch bloated guys stand their and flex while some fat sweaty guy next to me tells his buddy how he can't wait to order so-and-so's posing trunks.
Yeah...CF sure isn't going anywhere and people hate it. ::)
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Sorry, but bodybuilding has the lock on the moniker of a phony sport with insecure douche bags. I was down at the Northwest Regional Games this past weekend and want to know something? There were more people there on a SUNDAY watching than there are at National level bodybuilding shows. So, if the whole world thinks its a joke...what were they doing there? Please answer that one.
Bullshitting themselves. A mass delusion.
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Bullshitting themselves. A mass delusion.
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Never seen a group of people that defend their style of workouts as vehemently as crossfitters.
Weird.
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Never seen a group of people that defend their style of workouts as vehemently as crossfitters.
Weird.
They don't lift heavy just run around with 10 lb dumbells. ::)
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Yes, I want to tell you all that these top 10 "athletes", lol, are retarded. They should be mocked vigorously and their training methods should be widely discredited. Oh wait, they already have been mocked and discredited. My bad, I guess this post is redundant.
In other news, I just did 500 pushups in a row without stopping. The range of motion was about three inches. All I need now is someone to videotape me doing it so I can win a medal. I'm hardcore, intense and much tougher than people that exercise in a traditional manner. I think I'm going to print up a bunch of t-shirts, posters and bumper stickers with obnoxious, self-serving slogans on them. I'm an athlete. Self esteem, yay!!!
hate to tell you this but you couldn't touch the top 100 guys at the crossfit games. ALL of them are very good oly lifters. ALL of them are very good powerlifters. ALL of them can absolutely destroy you in a legitimate pushup contest. now here's where you post clips of the best powerlifters and oly lifters EVER and show me that the crossfit guys aren't as good as them so they suck. LOL.
no they're not THE BEST powerlifters and oly lifters. but they're all damn strong. and i'd be willing to bet that you couldn't squat, bench, deadlift, power clean or snatch as much as any of them.
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hate to tell you this but you couldn't touch the top 100 guys at the crossfit games. ALL of them are very good oly lifters. ALL of them are very good powerlifters. ALL of them can absolutely destroy you in a legitimate pushup contest. now here's where you post clips of the best powerlifters and oly lifters EVER and show me that the crossfit guys aren't as good as them so they suck. LOL.
no they're not THE BEST powerlifters and oly lifters. but they're all damn strong. and i'd be willing to bet that you couldn't squat, bench, deadlift, power clean or snatch as much as any of them.
And you are comparing the best crossfitters in the world, professional athletes, to a regular guy on the internet
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And you are comparing the best crossfitters in the world, professional athletes, to a regular guy on the internet
Why not, he is saying they are pussies and shit like that. So, if they are that weak...he should have no problem out doing many, if not damn near all, of them.
They don't lift heavy just run around with 10 lb dumbells. ::)
Better than the pink 5lb ones you use.
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This needs to be moved to the religion board.
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hate to tell you this but you couldn't touch the top 100 guys at the crossfit games. ALL of them are very good oly lifters. ALL of them are very good powerlifters. ALL of them can absolutely destroy you in a legitimate pushup contest. now here's where you post clips of the best powerlifters and oly lifters EVER and show me that the crossfit guys aren't as good as them so they suck. LOL.
no they're not THE BEST powerlifters and oly lifters. but they're all damn strong. and i'd be willing to bet that you couldn't squat, bench, deadlift, power clean or snatch as much as any of them.
This implies that you know what kind of physical condition that I'm in. Which you don't.
Don't assume that because I post on the internet that I'm a fat tub of shit. I'm strong as a ox and I'm in amazing shape.
If I chose to pursue this crossfit faggotry I would do very well. Don't act like these chuckleheads are untouchable fitness gods because it simply isn't true.
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This implies that you know what kind of physical condition that I'm in. Which you don't.
Don't assume that because I post on the internet that I'm a fat tub of shit. I'm strong as a ox and I'm in amazing shape.
If I chose to pursue this crossfit faggotry I would do very well. Don't act like these chuckleheads are untouchable fitness gods because it simply isn't true.
Of course you are......
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Of course you are......
Choose not to believe me if it makes you feel better about yourself. I really don't give a fuck. Keep deluding yourself that it's impossible to find a strong, fit person on the internet. Pretend that I look like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. I don't want you to lose the fragile hold that you have on your self esteem.
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Choose not to believe me if it makes you feel better about yourself. I really don't give a fuck. Keep deluding yourself that it's impossible to find a strong, fit person on the internet. Pretend that I look like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. I don't want you to lose the fragile hold that you have on your self esteem.
Please try harder....you typing up that diatribe really shows you don't give a fuck. Please tell us all how strong and in shape you are stud.
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I would say many top crossfitters are TOO big and muscular for crossfit. The average must be 5'10 and 200 pounds. You don't have to be 200 pounds ripped to deadlift and squat 500 and bench 300 (what these guys can do). Maybe they are all bloated from PEDs, I don't know. But it doesn't make sense in a sport where extra bodyweight slows you down in almost all events.
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Please try harder....you typing up that diatribe really shows you don't give a fuck. Please tell us all how strong and in shape you are stud.
Diatribe? Please dude. You are really reaching and it's pathetic.
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Krank, it appears you have a puppy dog.
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The growing years are tough. The need for attention is always strong. Just remember he is as 'strong as an ox' and in 'amazing shape'. Not good shape. Not great shape. AMAZING shape. We all should be so awesome.
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The growing years are tough. The need for attention is always strong. Just remember he is as 'strong as an ox' and in 'amazing shape'. Not good shape. Not great shape. AMAZING shape. We all should be so awesome.
That's rich, a crossfitter accusing someone of needing attention. lol
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That's rich, a crossfitter accusing someone of needing attention. lol
Strong as an Ox and in AMAZING shape.
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Strong as an Ox and in AMAZING shape.
That description is not much of an exaggeration. I'm no permabulker, that's for sure.
Don't mind me though. Just go back to doing your "pull-ups". Better yet, do something with a kettlebell. :D
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This needs to be moved to the religion board.
HA!
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That description is not much of an exaggeration. I'm no permabulker, that's for sure.
Don't mind me though. Just go back to doing your "pull-ups". Better yet, do something with a kettlebell. :D
Of course you're not stud. Daily affirmations are the key, right?
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BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD!
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BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD!
This.
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BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD!
FATALITY!!!!! FLAWLESS VICTORY THANKS TO BEING STRONG AS AN OX!!!!!
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Of course you're not stud. Daily affirmations are the key, right?
If it wasn't funny the first time, try and try again.
You seem to enjoy calling me "stud" which is odd.
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If it wasn't funny the first time, try and try again.
You seem to enjoy calling me "stud" which is odd.
Who's being funny? What do you prefer to be referred to when you claim to be as strong as an ox and in amazing shape?
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BREAK THEIR SPINAL CORD!
Lol. Crossfaggingfitting isn't my cup of tea, but it's funnier than shit to watch cfers get riled up. :)
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Lol. Crossfaggingfitting isn't my cup of tea, but it's funnier than shit to watch cfers get riled up. :)
Whats even funnier is when Chiro steps in with his pimp hand to keep you in line.
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Whats even funnier is when Chiro steps in with his pimp hand to keep you in line.
Chiro wishes he could get his hands all over me. :-X
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Lol. Crossfaggingfitting isn't my cup of tea, but it's funnier than shit to watch cfers get riled up. :)
It's not too hard to rile them up either. All you have to do is post a video of someone doing a crossfit "workout" and wait for the sane people to start laughing.
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Chiro wishes he could get his hands all over me. :-X
You're like a son to me, Gayos. I would never lay a hand on you.
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I would never lay a hand on you.
That's what she said...
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It's not too hard to rile them up either. All you have to do is post a video of someone doing a crossfit "workout" and wait for the sane people to start laughing.
Says the guy who wants to fuck them in their asses
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Says the guy who wants to fuck them in their asses
God, you are dense and unfunny. Kill yourself.
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God, you are dense and unfunny. Kill yourself.
Who's trying to be funny? Being strong as an ox is serious stuff. No one got into amazing shape having fun.
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You're like a son dad to me, Gayos. I would never lay a hand on you.
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Fuckin Hardcore Crossfitting man!
he can do legpress no?....Lot safer i would imagine
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(http://i.imgur.com/PpoCr.gif)
funniest shit ive ever seen
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And you are comparing the best crossfitters in the world, professional athletes, to a regular guy on the internet
no no no. Pray 4 said that the top crossfitters in the world had "retarded" training methodologies and that he would do very well at the crossfit games. so he compared himself to those guys. not me. i just simply said that he wouldn't be able to hang with the top 100. he thinks i'm wrong. i'm not. i haven't seen any videos of him training so maybe he would easily crack the top 100 in the crossfit games. i mean he did post it on an internet board. so it must be true.
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This implies that you know what kind of physical condition that I'm in. Which you don't.
Don't assume that because I post on the internet that I'm a fat tub of shit. I'm strong as a ox and I'm in amazing shape.
If I chose to pursue this crossfit faggotry I would do very well. Don't act like these chuckleheads are untouchable fitness gods because it simply isn't true.
NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. i do though. i bet you're awesome.
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start at 1:41
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the first guy is the best. this is why powerlifting is bad for you. just an injury waiting to happen. horrible trainng methodology. this is my proof.
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the first guy is the best. this is why powerlifting is bad for you. just an injury waiting to happen. horrible trainng methodology. this is my proof.
OH SHIT!! What he hell happened
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OH SHIT!! What he hell happened
i've felt all light headed like that before after i pull. never done that though!!! LOL!!!
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the first guy is the best. this is why powerlifting is bad for you. just an injury waiting to happen. horrible trainng methodology. this is my proof.
I think most of the people on that video would be better described as crossfitters than powerlifters or bodybuilders.
Crossfit = Dangerous because of sloppy technique executed at break-neck speed.
Powerlifting = Dangerous because of extreme poundages.
Bodybuilding = Dangerous because it attracts Schmoes.
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i've felt all light headed like that before after i pull. never done that though!!! LOL!!!
That was seriously intense
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I think most of the people on that video would be better described as crossfitters than powerlifters or bodybuilders.
Crossfit = Dangerous because of sloppy technique executed at break-neck speed.
Powerlifting = Dangerous because of extreme poundages.
Bodybuilding = Dangerous because it attracts Schmoes.
how do you figure? i saw maybe one clip that looked like it was at a crossfit gym or looked like someone "doing crossfit". again. you've never lifted at a crossfit gym. all you know is what you see on youtube. i worked out at a crossfit gym for about a year and a half. i did the burner WODS where you do all the high rep shit but mostly we did a lot of oly work and they were cool with me doing mostly powerlifting. i met a bunch of really good oly lifters at the one i went to as well. and now they have a really good and competitive oly club there. there were idiots there too. but they are everywhere. and i've done the crossfit gym thing, i've done the commercial gym thing, and now for the past 3 years i've been doing mostly all my lifting in my garage with my powerlfiting friends. when its real cold i go to an LA Fitness. so i've been at all of these places and i can say with the utmost confidence that the wannabe bodybuilders are WAY more annoying then the wannabee crossfitters.
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how do you figure? i saw maybe one clip that looked like it was at a crossfit gym or looked like someone "doing crossfit". again. you've never lifted at a crossfit gym. all you know is what you see on youtube. i worked out at a crossfit gym for about a year and a half. i did the burner WODS where you do all the high rep shit but mostly we did a lot of oly work and they were cool with me doing mostly powerlifting. i met a bunch of really good oly lifters at the one i went to as well. and now they have a really good and competitive oly club there. there were idiots there too. but they are everywhere. and i've done the crossfit gym thing, i've done the commercial gym thing, and now for the past 3 years i've been doing mostly all my lifting in my garage with my powerlfiting friends. when its real cold i go to an LA Fitness. so i've been at all of these places and i can say with the utmost confidence that the wannabe bodybuilders are WAY more annoying then the wannabee crossfitters.
Didn't read, lol.
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100 pullups in under 3 minutes. ::)
load of Bollocks.... ::) great shoulder blaster.... ???
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Didn't read, lol.
Why should you?
Of course, all CF-ers are weak...I keep having to tell myself that
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No, but then again, regular lifting or powerlifting does not promote this...
(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/NikBruce_OHpistolonKB_2_th.jpg)
This must be part of some elaborate insurance scam, right?
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lol how did i miss this thread
pics just screams midlife-crisis-trying-to-look-cool
gives them a reason to put up pics of themselves on facebook doing dumb workouts right
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OK...OK... when i read Kranks log...i can dig it but some of the BS you see nowadays is insane.. stupid injury stuff... ::)
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This must be part of some elaborate insurance scam, right?
Again, one guy fucking around and having fun and suddenly the uninformed think that this is something that is practiced. I could point out a dozen stupidity pictures from bodybuilding.
lol how did i miss this thread
pics just screams midlife-crisis-trying-to-look-cool
gives them a reason to put up pics of themselves on facebook doing dumb workouts right
Mid life crisis at 25yo? Interesting. Also, the CF crowd is so far less douchey than bodybuilding and fitness. I have blocked my share of the fitness/bodybuilding bitches for posting their meals on their contest prep, the constant uplifting and positive message for the day. Then you have the guys and the posts of how hardcore they are. The constant variations of "Go heavy or go home"...the "light weight"...all that shit. The innundation of contest prep photos taken in just the right light so they can kind of make out the abs from being a fat fuck for the last 10 mos. I was a bodybuilder for 25 years, I have yet to see the douche-ism of bodybuilding get matched. Show me ONE CFer that attributes adding 50lbs to their C&J, snatch, dead, bench, etc to the predigested, tripled filtered, super mega ionized, reverse micronized whey protein they take within 14.3792493mins ending their workout.
Donny : yes, some of the shit CFers do is stupid. It is retarded. It makes no sense. They do want the attention. I ask though, how does that differ from bodybuilding? Do you think someone pumping 2000mg of UG gear per week is safe? I really do look at CF and WSM as very similar. Competitive exercise. CF is more for us twinks ;)
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Again, one guy fucking around and having fun and suddenly the uninformed think that this is something that is practiced. I could point out a dozen stupidity pictures from bodybuilding.
Mid life crisis at 25yo? Interesting. Also, the CF crowd is so far less douchey than bodybuilding and fitness. I have blocked my share of the fitness/bodybuilding bitches for posting their meals on their contest prep, the constant uplifting and positive message for the day. Then you have the guys and the posts of how hardcore they are. The constant variations of "Go heavy or go home"...the "light weight"...all that shit. The innundation of contest prep photos taken in just the right light so they can kind of make out the abs from being a fat fuck for the last 10 mos. I was a bodybuilder for 25 years, I have yet to see the douche-ism of bodybuilding get matched. Show me ONE CFer that attributes adding 50lbs to their C&J, snatch, dead, bench, etc to the predigested, tripled filtered, super mega ionized, reverse micronized whey protein they take within 14.3792493mins ending their workout.
Donny : yes, some of the shit CFers do is stupid. It is retarded. It makes no sense. They do want the attention. I ask though, how does that differ from bodybuilding? Do you think someone pumping 2000mg of UG gear per week is safe? I really do look at CF and WSM as very similar. Competitive exercise. CF is more for us twinks ;)
meltdown
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meltdown
If meltdown means thoughtful and articulate counter to your post, you're right.
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meltdown
My post must have hit home for you Maxine ;)
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Krank..i agree with you on some Points... believe me. I have never taken steroids or do i understand how to use them. Therefore i canīt really comment on this subject because i do not know enough. I have always and will always Train natural . The Posts about Steroids i find intresting because i can read through the lines, who really knows and who experiments. as for Cross Training being for twinks i do not think so. Remember i come from a martial arts Background and am not a Big Guy...but i move very fast. I utilize everything to my Advantage.
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"The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take you legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking twisting motion."
- Crossfit coach Peter Griffin
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load of Bollocks.... ::) great shoulder blaster.... ???
Pretty good forearm workout! Would hit!
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This moron thought it would be a good idea to carry a Fridge on his back.
when asked about his leg and if it was broken ... franco said that he is a chiropractor and he knows his leg is not broken ... show the replay hahahahah
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"The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take you legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking twisting motion."
- Crossfit coach Peter Griffin
"You can build just as much muscle using a 20lb weight as you can using an 80lb weight!!!"
- IFBB Pro Ben Pakulski
"HMB..feels like Deca"
- Bill Phillips
((I could add at least 10 more if you like))
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"You can build just as much muscle using a 20lb weight as you can using an 80lb weight!!!"
- IFBB Pro Ben Pakulski
"HMB..feels like Deca"
- Bill Phillips
((I could add at least 10 more if you like))
mate,,,Bodybuilders have been using These principles for years........... ;D
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Krank please pm me with your thoughts. really
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"You can build just as much muscle using a 20lb weight as you can using an 80lb weight!!!"
- IFBB Pro Ben Pakulski
"HMB..feels like Deca"
- Bill Phillips
((I could add at least 10 more if you like))
Yes, add more! These are great!!