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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Skorp1o on January 01, 2017, 10:10:46 AM
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I had two friends who seemed to have the perfect life...both fell off the wagon lately, one is signed off sick due to depression caused by stress, or stress caused by depression whatever, for many years I saw the Facebook posts, the new house they bought together, the smiley engagement pics abroad, the "beautiful" wedding and wife, the honey moon and then the many baby pics to follow.
Now there's hardly any posts, I spoke to him, he told me he's been unhappy for many years and felt trapped for a long time.
This is a handsome well to do fella too. Every time I question my solo wolf lifestyle I get a reality check.
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It's good for some, not for everyone.
You have to know what kind of person you are.
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It's good for some, not for everyone.
You have to know what kind of person you are.
I guess,
I see some people praise their wives...."she's my rock" "without her I'm nothing"
I've never met a woman that made me feel this way. They're all attracted to what I already had before I ever met them, be my looks, or charisma or career....and if anything they only hold me back, my training suffers, my savings take a hit....etc, every time.
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Really with this topic again?
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You could also say "Are single men truly happy?"
Some are. Some aren't. It all depends on the individual and the circumstances that surround them.
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Nope 😬
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I had two friends who seemed to have the perfect life...both fell off the wagon lately, one is signed off sick due to depression caused by stress, or stress caused by depression whatever, for many years I saw the Facebook posts, the new house they bought together, the smiley engagement pics abroad, the "beautiful" wedding and wife, the honey moon and then the many baby pics to follow.
Now there's hardly any posts, I spoke to him, he told me he's been unhappy for many years and felt trapped for a long time.
This is a handsome well to do fella too. Every time I question my solo wolf lifestyle I get a reality check.
Take away kids and loosing your house, most would pack up and move on... Saying that being single isn't a bed of roses if all your mates are married or partnerd up either..
I don't hate getting married, you get alot of joy from the kids and being head of the family, but you have to give alot of your life up and its definitely not appreciated, every inch you give they take and want another..
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Skorp1o, contrary to popular beliefs and opinions, "happiness" is not a feeling or state of mind. As Aristotle famously argues in his Nicomachean Ethics, happiness (eudaimonia) is an activity (energeia). The fulfillment or satisfaction of an activity effectively stops the joyful practice of that activity. Take the practice of fucking, for example. While engaged in the activity of fucking, the fucker is keenly happy. However, when the satisfaction toward which that activity, it being fucking, is achieved, e.g., in orgasm, post-coital tristesse ensues. The "happiness" of this example lies more in the present tense of 'fucking' rather than in the past-tense of having 'fucked.'
Your married friend seems to confirm this sage wisdom. He seemed "happier" while engaged in the activity of getting married, analogous to 'fucking,' rather than in its upshot of being married (analogous to 'fucked'). So you see, that's why he is not happy, but is indeed fucked (QED).
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Take away kids and loosing your house, most would pack up and move on... Saying that being single isn't a bed of roses if all your mates are married or partnerd up either..
I don't hate getting married, you get alot of joy from the kids and being head of the family, but you have to give alot of your life up and its definitely not appreciated, every inch you give they take and want another..
This x1000, and to top it off what little they do for you is worth the earth...
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Entering into a committed, loving marriage can be one of the most gratifying things a man can experience.
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I had two friends who seemed to have the perfect life...both fell off the wagon lately, one is signed off sick due to depression caused by stress, or stress caused by depression whatever, for many years I saw the Facebook posts, the new house they bought together, the smiley engagement pics abroad, the "beautiful" wedding and wife, the honey moon and then the many baby pics to follow.
Now there's hardly any posts, I spoke to him, he told me he's been unhappy for many years and felt trapped for a long time.
This is a handsome well to do fella too. Every time I question my solo wolf lifestyle I get a reality check.
I recently got a text from one of my best friends asking if I would possibly be interested in having a roommate soon. (We were were roommates in our 20s) Took me by surprise as he seemed to have a great marriage. Never seen any major issues with him and the wife. They must hide it well. She's also decent looking.
Skorp I was actually thinking this same thing the other day. Stopped in a burger place for lunch and looked around at all the couples and thought, are these guys truly happy being married to these 4s and 5s. Probably not :-\
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I guess it depends. I was married and after 4 years I started feeling alone and miserable.
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I am happy, but I honestly couldn't recommend marriage for any man these days. My wife knows my opinion and agrees with it.
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I am happy, but I honestly couldn't recommend marriage for any man these days. My wife knows my opinion and agrees with it.
Any pics of the wife for research purposes?
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I have two females on this planet that adore me and love me. I'm abundantly blessed and happier than 10 fat men at a Vegas buffet. Marriage and kids is a death sentence to some.....it's a wonderful life sentence for me. Nothing brings me more joy than providing for and loving on my girls. It's unfortunate so many other men don't appreciate or recognize this same blessing. Gotta get your heart and mind right first.
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Shame Howard isn't here. He is an expert on being married and single.
Maybe no one uses Facebook anymore also explains lack of posts
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Shame Howard isn't here. He is an expert on being married and single.
No,please god no.
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Any pics of the wife for research purposes?
LOL, no. But I can say that 20 years of group fitness and personal training has left her hard as nails with muscle in all the right places.
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LOL, no. But I can say that 20 years of group fitness and personal training has left her hard as nails with muscle in all the right places.
Same here.
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LOL, no. But I can say that 20 years of group fitness and personal training has left her hard as nails with muscle in all the right places.
Some glute shots?
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She's vacuuming the carpet right in front of me wearing workout wear that's still wet from her workout.
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I am married and have 3 kids. It is fullfilling BUT it also keeps me wondering from time to time what could be achieved/accompliced ( for example career wise and saving up money) without having these responsibilities ( there is no turning back, it is a one way street)
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She's vacuuming the carpet right in front of me wearing workout wear that's still wet from her workout.
Disgusting.......
Please PM me some pics!!
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Disgusting.......
Please PM me some pics!!
She's probably just a Joon gimmick. ;D
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She's probably just a Joon gimmick. ;D
She's gonna put on something tight and sexy and then make some dinner, which will be high-protein, low carb bodybuilding food.
I am actually not making this up, LMAO.
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She's gonna out on something tight and sexy and then make some dinner, which will be high-protein, low carb bodybuilding food.
I am actually not making this up, LMAO.
Aj, you used to post here A HELL OF A LOT. What does that say about your marrige and commitment to family life? Or is your son allready in his teens or living on his own? No pun intended, just wondering.
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ive settled down again and its a much more fulfilling life
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I remember science articles who confirm that married people are happier. I find this hard to believe.
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Skorpio are you looking for our acceptance to the fact that you are 40, single and happy? Because we all know this topic is done to death and most married people aren't happy from various obvious reasons, so have you secretely gotten second thoughts on your situation? Because forget it.
Being single is the new normal because science has gotten so awesome that we don't need sperm or eggs to evolve.
Anyhoo, here's something that might be funny related to this topic. A person I know got engaged. Me, him and his future wife of choice were talking this and that which eventually lead to one night stands versus sex in a good relationship. Being single and a gb'er, I knew this was going to be awesome.
She strongly suggested that women have great sex only in a good relationship. Well then I called my sex partner, put on loud speaker and she answers the phone like "babyyyy I miss yoouuuuu!", put off the loud speaker and told her I call you back. Then I smiled and told this woman that no woman misses a man unless she loves the d, no love lost, no love found. She was very upset and only talked with my guy afterwards ignoring me.
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As answered a billion times across the eons by smart men such as myself - it depends on the person. Lame, ordinary but yet cuts to the heart of the truth.
Some guys like my brother will be lost at sea without his girlfriend. They've been together for 22 years (since his mid teens) and seem just as happy as always. Me, I can take it or leave it. Being with someone that is. I'll never marry. Never ever ever. Did you hear me??? EVER. No way I'm paying for a marriage license and a party so some broad can feel like a 'princess' whilst I'm only there to say 'I do' and GTFO of the way. Unless there's a discernible benefit - which there's isn't. And spare me the emotional argument about declaring your love to one another or the world or in front of God. You're 2 of 7.4 billion other mouth-breathing dumb shitheads out there, you're not special and the world don't care.
And I agree with the OP. In the past my training and savings used to take a massive hit when tangled up with some stupid whore with dumb ideas. Not anymore. Been with my current girlfriend for about 18 months and my training and saving has never been better. She knew me first before we started dating and she was well aware of my views on women, marriage, money and dating. Yet she still chose to sniff around me and not once in 18 months tried changing those views. She's actually more anal (before you ask - she don't) about spending money than I am and her usual answer to me wanting to buy something or go somewhere is; waste of money. So it works in those ways. Sex is good and as much as I want, but I'd be lying if I tell ya that I don't fantasize about banging other women sometimes. Only natural I guess
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why is the marriage part needed? unless youre religious
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I remember science articles who confirm that married people are happier. I find this hard to believe.
Can find science articles saying the opposite.
It's like climate change.
Pick your favourite side and defend to your heart's content.
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As answered a billion times across the eons by smart men such as myself - it depends on the person. Lame, ordinary but yet cuts to the heart of the truth.
Some guys like my brother will be lost at sea without his girlfriend. They've been together for 22 years (since his mid teens) and seem just as happy as always. Me, I can take it or leave it. Being with someone that is. I'll never marry. Never ever ever. Did you hear me??? EVER. No way I'm paying for a marriage license and a party so some broad can feel like a 'princess' whilst I'm only there to say 'I do' and GTFO of the way. Unless there's a discernible benefit - which there's isn't. And spare me the emotional argument about declaring your love to one another or the world or in front of God. You're 2 of 7.4 billion other mouth-breathing dumb shitheads out there, you're not special and the world don't care.
And I agree with the OP. In the past my training and savings used to take a massive hit when tangled up with some stupid whore with dumb ideas. Not anymore. Been with my current girlfriend for about 18 months and my training and saving has never been better. She knew me first before we started dating and she was well aware of my views on women, marriage, money and dating. Yet she still chose to sniff around me and not once in 18 months tried changing those views. She's actually more anal (before you ask - she don't) about spending money than I am and her usual answer to me wanting to buy something or go somewhere is; waste of money. So it works in those ways. Sex is good and as much as I want, but I'd be lying if I tell ya that I don't fantasize about banging other women sometimes. Only natural I guess
No anal is a dealbreaker imho.All 3 doors must be open for business.
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LOL, no. But I can say that 20 years of group fitness and personal training has left her hard as nails with muscle in all the right places.
but does she really give you the admiration (arms mainly and overall physique) you desire?
that is key when it comes to women
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Can find science articles saying the opposite.
It's like climate change.
Pick your favourite side and defend to your heart's content.
I'm not surprised about this, esp not for ateists
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but does she really give you the admiration (arms mainly and overall physique) you desire?
Oh yes.
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Oh yes.
i remember you mentioned a few years ago this was an area for improvement
did you pressure her into working on this?
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As answered a billion times across the eons by smart men such as myself - it depends on the person. Lame, ordinary but yet cuts to the heart of the truth.
Some guys like my brother will be lost at sea without his girlfriend. They've been together for 22 years (since his mid teens) and seem just as happy as always. Me, I can take it or leave it. Being with someone that is. I'll never marry. Never ever ever. Did you hear me??? EVER. No way I'm paying for a marriage license and a party so some broad can feel like a 'princess' whilst I'm only there to say 'I do' and GTFO of the way. Unless there's a discernible benefit - which there's isn't. And spare me the emotional argument about declaring your love to one another or the world or in front of God. You're 2 of 7.4 billion other mouth-breathing dumb shitheads out there, you're not special and the world don't care.
And I agree with the OP. In the past my training and savings used to take a massive hit when tangled up with some stupid whore with dumb ideas. Not anymore. Been with my current girlfriend for about 18 months and my training and saving has never been better. She knew me first before we started dating and she was well aware of my views on women, marriage, money and dating. Yet she still chose to sniff around me and not once in 18 months tried changing those views. She's actually more anal (before you ask - she don't) about spending money than I am and her usual answer to me wanting to buy something or go somewhere is; waste of money. So it works in those ways. Sex is good and as much as I want, but I'd be lying if I tell ya that I don't fantasize about banging other women sometimes. Only natural I guess
jack good post man. i was pretty niave when i got married. i fell for the "princess" wedding, jesus boy doing our vows (im an atheist- still pissed to this day we paid thAt fucker), annoying mother in law with her formal bullshit, 6 and 6 bridemaids and groosman, very old fashion, etc. etc. at the time, i just didnt care. kinda like, oh well sure whatever. as im 30s now, my friends getting married are doing destination weddings, fun stuff with small group of friends, etc. looks so fun, so i am kinda still pissed we did the stupid dog and poney show. that seems like the shit that goes on when you are in your twenties getting married. so my advice, wait till your an adult like age 30 and up. 25 is no adult.
financially speaking, marriage was great for us. my savings was shit, and my wife earns double what i earn. we were able to buy a house, and move up in investments, etc. also, like you said, my wife is very thrifty amd always looks for the best deal. friends we have in their thirties who are marrying are still doing the townhouse or rental thing. so combining assets really can propel you forward much faster.
now, this might not be important to many people. its really not to me. i argue alot about what we buy because id be fine with a shack in the woods. that always seems to be where people argue, is the life style. people have expectations. my expectation was big savings, retire early and small modest home and never worry about money. wife loves work, and wants big houses, nice things. thats our one main wedge, which sucks.
honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
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I love my freedom I can get up tomorrow morning if I choose fly to thailand smash some sluts and come back home, I cannot imagine being 60 years old and being turned on by a 60 year old wrinkled woman I could not have sex with her, when I am old I will be living on some beach training and juicing and smashing 18 year old sluts, now some married people will tell you that this will get old after a while but I have never gotten tired of smashing a young beautiful pussy.
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I`m pretty happily married................. 14 years now.
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I`m pretty happily married................. 14 years now.
does she admire your arms a lot ?
i cant imagine being happy without that
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does she admire your arms a lot ?
i cant imagine being happy without that
Loves my physique.
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I`m pretty happily married................. 14 score now.
Fixed.
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(http://72point.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/married-fingers.jpg)
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Fixed.
Ya` prick ya` !! LOL :D
Happy New year bro!! ;)
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i remember you mentioned a few years ago this was an area for improvement
did you pressure her into working on this?
Being that she's been in the fitness biz for 20+ years, she's pretty into muscle, so this wasn't a hard sell at all.
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(http://2ED252D800000578-3334720-image-a-30_1448530794678.jpg)
Reasons to be happily married
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/26/09/2ED252D800000578-3334720-image-a-30_1448530794678.jpg)
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ideally, stay single while you max out your prime physique years, and then (if you find the right woman) settle down and you experience the best of both worlds.
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Having something in common makes for a happy marriage (bodybuilding related) (no homo)
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Having the same goals (bodybuilding related)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2520870/thumbs/o-COUPLE-570.jpg?8)
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Finding someone as freaky as yourself
(http://d28mt5n9lkji5m.cloudfront.net/i/bkbZuCiU9Z.jpg)
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Fake selfies
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Opposites attract. He's a dwarf his transgender bride is 6"3". They are different colors.
(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5426043.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Anton-Kraft.jpg)
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Opposites attract
(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5426134.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/MAIN-Bodybuilding-Dwarf.jpg)
this is a complete fake story
why would a tall black tranny settle for a broke dwarf when he can make a killing as a prostitute?
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this is a complete fake story
why would a tall black tranny settle for a broke dwarf when he can make a killing as a prostitute?
Perhaps the dwarf is one-legged.
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(http://www.lamuscle.com/images/dynamic/anton-kraft-bodybuilder.jpg)
That's not Branch
(http://www.worldmuscleforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/branch-warren-top.jpg)
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jack good post man. i was pretty niave when i got married. i fell for the "princess" wedding, jesus boy doing our vows (im an atheist- still pissed to this day we paid thAt fucker), annoying mother in law with her formal bullshit, 6 and 6 bridemaids and groosman, very old fashion, etc. etc. at the time, i just didnt care. kinda like, oh well sure whatever. as im 30s now, my friends getting married are doing destination weddings, fun stuff with small group of friends, etc. looks so fun, so i am kinda still pissed we did the stupid dog and poney show. that seems like the shit that goes on when you are in your twenties getting married. so my advice, wait till your an adult like age 30 and up. 25 is no adult.
financially speaking, marriage was great for us. my savings was shit, and my wife earns double what i earn. we were able to buy a house, and move up in investments, etc. also, like you said, my wife is very thrifty amd always looks for the best deal. friends we have in their thirties who are marrying are still doing the townhouse or rental thing. so combining assets really can propel you forward much faster.
now, this might not be important to many people. its really not to me. i argue alot about what we buy because id be fine with a shack in the woods. that always seems to be where people argue, is the life style. people have expectations. my expectation was big savings, retire early and small modest home and never worry about money. wife loves work, and wants big houses, nice things. thats our one main wedge, which sucks.
honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
You'd be fine with a shack in the woods because like any real man, you're subconsciously looking for fulfilment and not happiness through stuff. Happiness are for women, children and boys in their early 20s that's yet to become men. Women wants 'pretty and shiny' or bigger and better to impress other women. They play these stupid fucking games their whole lives. Some men do too, until they finally off themselves or become alcoholics or otherwise addicted. A waste because nobody ever taught them the difference between happiness (which don't really exist as it's a fleeting state of mind) and living fulfilling lives. Once you live a life that fulfills you, it makes NO difference whether you're single or married. A partner can add to that but you never allow them to take away from that.
Apart from fucking a woman, the best and most fulfilling times of my life has been spent chilling with my male buddies. About a week ago I went to a new gym. It was over 3 levels, with the weight section being in the basement area. Really tiny, only 4 benches there all tightly packed together. Was around 9pm in the evening and there were 2 other dudes in there. With the space being so small, we all took our headphones off and started talking to each other. Imagine that in 2016/2017. Crazy huh? All of us were doing chest so with the space so cramped, we moved to one bench and started training together. That workout was the best one I did in 2016. The next day my chest was torn to shreds. Only really recovered yesterday. I walked out of there with two new gym buddies. We're catching up again in a week or two to train together. For me that's fulfilment.
Imagine women doing that. They'll ignore each other and subconscious compete, willing each other to fail. Men don't do that. I see a dude on a bench trying and struggling, he's getting a spot.
Gone off on a tangent here but you get my drift. Fulfilment, not happiness!
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You'd be fine with a shack in the woods because like any real man, you're subconsciously looking for fulfilment and not happiness through stuff. Happiness are for women, children and boys in their early 20s that's yet to become men. Women wants 'pretty and shiny' or bigger and better to impress other women. They play these stupid fucking games their whole lives. Some men do too, until they finally off themselves or become alcoholics or otherwise addicted. A waste because nobody ever taught them the difference between happiness (which don't really exist as it's a fleeting state of mind) and living fulfilling lives. Once you live a life that fulfills you, it makes NO difference whether you're single or married. A partner can add to that but you never allow them to take away from that.
Apart from fucking a woman, the best and most fulfilling times of my life has been spent chilling with my male buddies. About a week ago I went to a new gym. It wa s over 3 levels, with the weight section being in the basement area. Really tiny, only 4 benches there all tightly packed together. Was around 9pm in the evening and there were 2 other dudes in there. With the space being so small, we all took our headphones off and started talking to each other. Imagine that in 2016/2017. Crazy huh? All of us were doing chest so with the space so cramped, we moved to one bench and started training together. That workout was the best one I did in 2016. The next day my chest was torn to shreds. Only really recovered yesterday. I walked out of there with two new gym buddies. We're catching up again in a week or two to train together. For me that's fulfilment.
Imagine women doing that. They'll ignore each other and subconscious compete, willing each other to fail. Men don't do that. I see a dude on a bench trying and struggling, he's getting a spot.
Gone off on a tangent here but you get my drift. Fulfilment, not happiness!
Interesting post, democrat. Thanks
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I'm not married, but I'm so close to my girlfriend of four years, I would be crushed if something happened to her. It'd honestly be hard to go on, and I mean that literally. I know she feels the same.
Are men at this level truly happy? I don't know. I know I wasn't happy single and I know I'm not ultra mega happy now. I strive for more and to make our relationship better, but I'm content, and that's enough for me at this present time.
I don't believe in marriage, btw. Not for men.
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You'd be fine with a shack in the woods because like any real man, you're subconsciously looking for fulfilment and not happiness through stuff. Happiness are for women, children and boys in their early 20s that's yet to become men. Women wants 'pretty and shiny' or bigger and better to impress other women. They play these stupid fucking games their whole lives. Some men do too, until they finally off themselves or become alcoholics or otherwise addicted. A waste because nobody ever taught them the difference between happiness (which don't really exist as it's a fleeting state of mind) and living fulfilling lives. Once you live a life that fulfills you, it makes NO difference whether you're single or married. A partner can add to that but you never allow them to take away from that.
Apart from fucking a woman, the best and most fulfilling times of my life has been spent chilling with my male buddies. About a week ago I went to a new gym. It was over 3 levels, with the weight section being in the basement area. Really tiny, only 4 benches there all tightly packed together. Was around 9pm in the evening and there were 2 other dudes in there. With the space being so small, we all took our headphones off and started talking to each other. Imagine that in 2016/2017. Crazy huh? All of us were doing chest so with the space so cramped, we moved to one bench and started training together. That workout was the best one I did in 2016. The next day my chest was torn to shreds. Only really recovered yesterday. I walked out of there with two new gym buddies. We're catching up again in a week or two to train together. For me that's fulfilment.
Imagine women doing that. They'll ignore each other and subconscious compete, willing each other to fail. Men don't do that. I see a dude on a bench trying and struggling, he's getting a spot.
Gone off on a tangent here but you get my drift. Fulfilment, not happiness!
great post dude 10/10
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Having kids is very meaningful, not much time to explain why....
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You'd be fine with a shack in the woods because like any real man, you're subconsciously looking for fulfilment and not happiness through stuff. Happiness are for women, children and boys in their early 20s that's yet to become men. Women wants 'pretty and shiny' or bigger and better to impress other women. They play these stupid fucking games their whole lives. Some men do too, until they finally off themselves or become alcoholics or otherwise addicted. A waste because nobody ever taught them the difference between happiness (which don't really exist as it's a fleeting state of mind) and living fulfilling lives. Once you live a life that fulfills you, it makes NO difference whether you're single or married. A partner can add to that but you never allow them to take away from that.
Apart from fucking a woman, the best and most fulfilling times of my life has been spent chilling with my male buddies. About a week ago I went to a new gym. It was over 3 levels, with the weight section being in the basement area. Really tiny, only 4 benches there all tightly packed together. Was around 9pm in the evening and there were 2 other dudes in there. With the space being so small, we all took our headphones off and started talking to each other. Imagine that in 2016/2017. Crazy huh? All of us were doing chest so with the space so cramped, we moved to one bench and started training together. That workout was the best one I did in 2016. The next day my chest was torn to shreds. Only really recovered yesterday. I walked out of there with two new gym buddies. We're catching up again in a week or two to train together. For me that's fulfilment.
Imagine women doing that. They'll ignore each other and subconscious compete, willing each other to fail. Men don't do that. I see a dude on a bench trying and struggling, he's getting a spot.
Gone off on a tangent here but you get my drift. Fulfilment, not happiness!
Oh brother, don't let the pump get to your head
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Having the same goals (bodybuilding related)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2520870/thumbs/o-COUPLE-570.jpg?8)
i'm a typical gym rat and actually feel gym chicks and their religious-like training behaviour repulsive ...would rather penetrate a recreational gym goer chick than someone as addicted to the iron as myself ...because i know how narcissistic i am and don't stand narcissistic bitches at all ...ironic isn't it? :)
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Yes.
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Judging by my observations of married friends and family members... they are NOT happy. Many have gotten divorced and others simply tolerate and adapt to the horrible situation they've created for themselves. I often see men in the mall pushing baby strollers with several kids and their fat/ugly wives always nagging/complaining about something. The man always has this look on his face like he's in hell. What logical, critical thinking human male would want that?
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
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Been with my partner 21 years, we are happy...
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
sorry to hear that
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
Ouch, good luck dude.
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
This type of thing is inevitable really... it's only just a matter of time, especially if your woman is good looking and maintains herself well... she will be very desirable by other men. When the woman you are with is fat and/or ugly, she'll be more desperate and tend to stay with you. Married women who are young and pretty are bound to desire a new cock to suck/sit on. Their looks are what enables them.... this is where their power lies... the ability to attract men.
Marriage?... Caveat Emptor.
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THANKS CALVIN/BMC :)
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honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
X1000, I look at random women and think the same and drive myself nuts thinking how I'm missing out but in reality you don't know they could be bitches, whores, or all the above.
Yes don't get suckered into the circus of a expensive wedding, dumbest shit ever. I did and was miserable through it (voiced my opinion but out ruled), threw MY 25k in the trash for what? Inviting ppl you don't know because they are related to so and so, what a joke. Gosh how did the guy get so fucked in all of this shit? Women, single or married, pretty much get whatever they fucking want.
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X1000, I look at random women and think the same and drive myself nuts thinking how I'm missing out but in reality you don't know they could be bitches, whores, or all the above.
Yes don't get suckered into the circus of a expensive wedding, dumbest shit ever. I did and was miserable through it (voiced my opinion but out ruled), threw MY 25k in the trash for what? Inviting ppl you don't know because they are related to so and so, what a joke. Gosh how did the guy get so fucked in all of this shit? Women, single or married, pretty much get whatever they fucking want.
Most standard weddings today average much more than that... $35-50K. Unbelievable waste of money.
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This type of thing is inevitable really... it's only just a matter of time, especially if your woman is good looking and maintains herself well... she will be very desirable by other men. When the woman you are with is fat and/or ugly, she'll be more desperate and tend to stay with you. Married women who are young and pretty are bound to desire a new cock to suck/sit on. Their looks are what enables them.... this is where their power lies... the ability to attract men.
Marriage?... Caveat Emptor.
my wife has a good career and is smart,but over time the stress of working nights'nurse'juggling kids and sleep in mornings/afternoons has worn her out mentally. and usual bumps and bruises a marriage gets over time has reconsidered her state of mind esp with me.i took a step back and let her deal.. if it is meant to be it will be .
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Most standard weddings today average much more than that... $35-50K. Unbelievable waste of money.
I am getting married in April.
I was able to con her parents, and my parents to each put up 1/3 of our budget. Jokes on them though, I plan on only using 1/2 of the money for the wedding.
The other half, that I made off of our parents, will be going towards my fiancee's Occupational Therapy schooling. I am assured that no loans will be required at all for her schooling. I got through school debt-free, and so will my bride.
She starts out around 6 figures at her first "real job". Profit.
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I am getting married in April.
She starts out around 6 figures at her first "real job". Profit.
You've done well. Just make sure you make less than her... that way when she files for divorce, she'll have to pay you.
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Same here.
First legit coffee-spitter of 2017! ;D ;D ;D
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was it love, or was it the idea of being in love?
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Very few of my married friends are happy. A couple of them happy. The rest miserable, trapped, depressed.... in cheaper to keep her situations. Ive been with my wife 12 years, married for 2. I was happy for the first 10. Not so much since the wedding. Lots of people told me, they change once you marry them..... they were so right its. scary.
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feels good to be free man feels good
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my wife has a good career and is smart,but over time the stress of working nights'nurse'juggling kids and sleep in mornings/afternoons has worn her out mentally. and usual bumps and bruises a marriage gets over time has reconsidered her state of mind esp with me.i took a step back and let her deal.. if it is meant to be it will be .
That sucks, all the best broseph.
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That sucks, all the best broseph.
MEANS A LOT THANKS NZ...
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
That's a tough situation for you. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it all works out for you. Went through the same thing, but no kids thank god..
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
Marriage counseling could make a vast improvement. Both parties need to be onboard for it to work, though. Best of luck, man.
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I think some people suffer from the pressure to provide for others. has nothing to do with marriage and such. Just having to pay mortgage, school, tons of food, clothes for your spouse and kids and maybe yourself etc.... As a man no matter how you act or what you say, there is too much temptation out there. Must be frustrating to see so much hot pussy and convince yourself that you are loyal and fuck the same chick once a month to keep her happy. Most married men seem to fuck their wives to make them happy and not themselves.
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I'm not married, but I'm so close to my girlfriend of four years, I would be crushed if something happened to her. It'd honestly be hard to go on, and I mean that literally. I know she feels the same.
Are men at this level truly happy? I don't know. I know I wasn't happy single and I know I'm not ultra mega happy now. I strive for more and to make our relationship better, but I'm content, and that's enough for me at this present time.
I don't believe in marriage, btw. Not for men.
The problem is that a lot of folks wouldn't know happiness if it hit them in the face. Realistically, almost all people are not happy 100% of the time. If they were, they'd have no reference points.
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i'm a typical gym rat and actually feel gym chicks and their religious-like training behaviour repulsive ...would rather penetrate a recreational gym goer chick than someone as addicted to the iron as myself ...because i know how narcissistic i am and don't stand narcissistic bitches at all ...ironic isn't it? :)
People are not all alike. I've seen quite a few couples who either train together or are at least going to the gym together. Almost everyone, bodybuilders or not are at least a little narcissistic.
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njflex i recommend you work on your marriage until she calms down and then is the time to start plotting your escape, transfer money to foreign accounts etc
it's inevitable your marriage will fail, make sure you come out on top
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njflex i recommend you work on your marriage until she calms down and then is the time to start plotting your escape, transfer money to foreign accounts etc
it's inevitable your marriage will fail, make sure you come out on top
My brother did this. Slowly took out cash from the bank and started getting his paychecks cashed out instead of deposited. Started putting the money in a safe my mom's house. When the divorce came years later he had close to a million in cash his wife didn't know about. Divorced her and gave her half of everything which was really more like 10%.
He got this idea from a story I told him about Reggie Miller in the NBA who had his pay checks written in his mother's name. technically he played for free in the NBA while the league paid his mom. When he divorced his wife she got jack shit since he didn't earn any money. Fucking brilliant.
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njflex i recommend you work on your marriage until she calms down and then is the time to start plotting your escape, transfer money to foreign accounts etc
it's inevitable your marriage will fail, make sure you come out on top
If kids are involved there's no comming out on top, you have to support them and the mother until they are of age that's why no bloke will rush into divorce the woman on the other hand knows she'l be looked after.
You dont even need to be married, just cohabiting wth kids and your in same position
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He got this idea from a story I told him about Reggie Miller in the NBA who had his pay checks written in his mother's name. technically he played for free in the NBA while the league paid his mom. When he divorced his wife she got jack shit since he didn't earn any money. Fucking brilliant.
That seems like something the wife could get around easily through a lawsuit. I'm skeptical.
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Are single men happy?
Are old people happy?
Depends.
If you are selfish like most in the bodybuilding community are, then don't get married. And really don't have children.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my wife has a good career and is smart,but over time the stress of working nights'nurse'juggling kids and sleep in mornings/afternoons has worn her out mentally. and usual bumps and bruises a marriage gets over time has reconsidered her state of mind esp with me.i took a step back and let her deal.. if it is meant to be it will be .
Often, it is good to put relationships above all else. Nursing can be a very stressful. Working nights when your partner works days isn't great, but sometimes necessary when the kids are still too young to be on their own. When couples are truly partners, they share most responsibilities, without regard as to whether it is conventionally "man's work" or "women's work". My best to you and your wife. Time can be a great healer.
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If kids are involved there's no comming out on top, you have to support them and the mother until they are of age that's why no bloke will rush into divorce the woman on the other hand knows she'l be looked after.
You dont even need to be married, just cohabiting wth kids and your in same position
stop working officially and just sell drugs etc
no income no child support/alimony
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That seems like something the wife could get around easily through a lawsuit. I'm skeptical.
She tried to sue him but didn't win.
That day, she received $5 million from a fund in which Miller, 35, had annually deposited 5 percent of his assets, as agreed in a prenup.
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Very few of my married friends are happy. A couple of them happy. The rest miserable, trapped, depressed.... in cheaper to keep her situations. Ive been with my wife 12 years, married for 2. I was happy for the first 10. Not so much since the wedding. Lots of people told me, they change once you marry them..... they were so right its. scary.
Often when two people are together, but not married, they are more committed to being together. Sometimes after marriage folks stay together mainly because they are married. Marriage should not change relationships and commitments, but it happens.
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She tried to sue him but didn't win.
That day, she received $5 million from a fund in which Miller, 35, had annually deposited 5 percent of his assets, as agreed in a prenup.
If she had a prenup, wouldn't THAT be the reason she didn't get the money? Not because he supposedly didn't make any money playing basketball.
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Often when two people are together, but not married, they are more committed to being together. Sometimes after marriage folks stay together mainly because they are married. Marriage should not change relationships and commitments, but it happens.
A good buddy of mine used to text me at least a couple times a week to shoot the shit etc... For years we'd always chat and meet up in vegas, miami etc... since he lives across country. Leading up to his marriage he'd text me daily, I went to his wedding and everything. Since his wedding which has been over a year now he has texted me ZERO times. Bullshit in my opinion. I know his wife has something to do with it.
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Very few of my married friends are happy. A couple of them happy. The rest miserable, trapped, depressed.... in cheaper to keep her situations. Ive been with my wife 12 years, married for 2. I was happy for the first 10. Not so much since the wedding. Lots of people told me, they change once you marry them..... they were so right its. scary.
it's like when you give week or day contracts to laborers
after some months you may be impressed with their performance and offer them a permanent contract
big mistake, they turn lazy once they get that contract bcs they know it will cost you to fire them
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Are single men happy?
Are old people happy?
Depends.
If you are selfish like most in the bodybuilding community are, then don't get married. And really don't have children.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As most of you know, I'm "old people". Sometimes I really have to work hard on being happy or the happiness slips away.
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Happiness is fleeting for everyone, married or not. Enjoy happiness when it comes but don't expect it to last.
Having kids, on the other hand, is amazing. Gives your whole life a sense of purpose and meaning that is difficult to put into words.
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Often when two people are together, but not married, they are more committed to being together. Sometimes after marriage folks stay together mainly because they are married. Marriage should not change relationships and commitments, but it happens.
I disagree. When you are married its harder to separate so the couple can sometimes save their marriage through counseling. Folks usually stay together because of kids. I see many couples that when the kids reach 18 they split. Very sad since they've been married for so long.
People should realize no one is perfect. We all screw up. Forgiveness and change is part of the healing.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I disagree. When you are married its harder to separate so the couple can sometimes save their marriage through counseling. Folks usually stay together because of kids. I see many couples that when the kids reach 18 they split. Very sad since they've been married for so long.
People should realize no one is perfect. We all screw up. Forgiveness and change is part of the healing.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't you eventually divorce Ayeesha?
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Happiness is fleeting for everyone, married or not. Enjoy happiness when it comes but don't expect it to last.
Having kids, on the other hand, is amazing. Gives your whole life a sense of purpose and meaning that is difficult to put into words.
part of the reason people feel this way is because it gives people an excuse to stop working on themselves
"oh cant do this or that, got kids you know........."
not gonna type out the whole theory but it's pretty straight forward and true, especially for poor people who never achieve shit
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stop working officially and just sell drugs etc
no income no child support/alimony
Real men provide for there kids, wouldn't be an option for me...
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Real men provide for there kids, wouldn't be an option for me...
being divorced and paying child support is still cheaper than being married
women's spending never ends
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latter 2016 into present I see for myself what happens in a 'married'relationship almost 12 yrs with 3 kids and home and getting blindsided all at once that the 'issues'over time are now 'the foundation is crumbling'i can only hope this will pass or I will be facing a new lease on life alone 'relatively speaking'
I`m hoping for the best for you my brother.
Stay strong. ;)
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being divorced and paying child support is still cheaper than being married
women's spending never ends
Nah.... You have to keep two houses, there's no win, unless she quickly remarries..
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Nah.... You have to keep two houses, there's no win, unless she quickly remarries..
lloolll
merica must be worse than i thought
as long as the woman is able to work why the hell would you need to pay her
just pay for the child which you have to do anyway divorce or not
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Shame Howard isn't here. He is an expert on being married and single.
Maybe no one uses Facebook anymore also explains lack of posts
Overall this one is pretty basic and simple.
As Poly and MOS already posted, for some guys, married with kids is the BEST.
It's obvious from his posts that MOS feels loved and adored by his wife and daughter.
I'd wager MOS is emotionally mature, stable and selfless.
Sadly, more men feel trapped when married with children.
For them I'd strongly advise to get divorced on the best terms possible and stay single.
In fact, I'd urge most guys under 30 to avoid marriage and/or getting any female pregnant.
Don't, I repeat don't get married and start a family because "it's just what you do."
In my case, I prefer being married and in a committed, relationship without children.
I was married and divorced a coupe times and I'm a real partner with my current wife.
To me, the big stress is having kids, BUT, everyone is different.
Bottom line : CHOOSE the relationship and lifestyle that suits you. Know this before you get involved with a woman or you might end up living like she prefers instead ( kids, married, etc )
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why is the marriage part needed? unless youre religious
It's not but I wonder why have kids? Why not be married partners and enjoy building a life together.
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I am married and have 3 kids. It is fullfilling BUT it also keeps me wondering from time to time what could be achieved/accompliced ( for example career wise and saving up money) without having these responsibilities ( there is no turning back, it is a one way street)
Thanks for the honest post.
Question: Overall , how stressful do you find raising kids to be?
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As answered a billion times across the eons by smart men such as myself - it depends on the person. Lame, ordinary but yet cuts to the heart of the truth.
Some guys like my brother will be lost at sea without his girlfriend. They've been together for 22 years (since his mid teens) and seem just as happy as always. Me, I can take it or leave it. Being with someone that is. I'll never marry. Never ever ever. Did you hear me??? EVER. No way I'm paying for a marriage license and a party so some broad can feel like a 'princess' whilst I'm only there to say 'I do' and GTFO of the way. Unless there's a discernible benefit - which there's isn't. And spare me the emotional argument about declaring your love to one another or the world or in front of God. You're 2 of 7.4 billion other mouth-breathing dumb shitheads out there, you're not special and the world don't care.
And I agree with the OP. In the past my training and savings used to take a massive hit when tangled up with some stupid whore with dumb ideas. Not anymore. Been with my current girlfriend for about 18 months and my training and saving has never been better. She knew me first before we started dating and she was well aware of my views on women, marriage, money and dating. Yet she still chose to sniff around me and not once in 18 months tried changing those views. She's actually more anal (before you ask - she don't) about spending money than I am and her usual answer to me wanting to buy something or go somewhere is; waste of money. So it works in those ways. Sex is good and as much as I want, but I'd be lying if I tell ya that I don't fantasize about banging other women sometimes. Only natural I guess
Great post
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My wife and I were blessed with kids who made it through the teen years without causing us much trouble. Not every parent is so lucky.
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jack good post man. i was pretty niave when i got married. i fell for the "princess" wedding, jesus boy doing our vows (im an atheist- still pissed to this day we paid thAt fucker), annoying mother in law with her formal bullshit, 6 and 6 bridemaids and groosman, very old fashion, etc. etc. at the time, i just didnt care. kinda like, oh well sure whatever. as im 30s now, my friends getting married are doing destination weddings, fun stuff with small group of friends, etc. looks so fun, so i am kinda still pissed we did the stupid dog and poney show. that seems like the shit that goes on when you are in your twenties getting married. so my advice, wait till your an adult like age 30 and up. 25 is no adult.
financially speaking, marriage was great for us. my savings was shit, and my wife earns double what i earn. we were able to buy a house, and move up in investments, etc. also, like you said, my wife is very thrifty amd always looks for the best deal. friends we have in their thirties who are marrying are still doing the townhouse or rental thing. so combining assets really can propel you forward much faster.
now, this might not be important to many people. its really not to me. i argue alot about what we buy because id be fine with a shack in the woods. that always seems to be where people argue, is the life style. people have expectations. my expectation was big savings, retire early and small modest home and never worry about money. wife loves work, and wants big houses, nice things. thats our one main wedge, which sucks.
honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
Great post and thanks for being honest about having to endure the big show wedding.
Lots of woman want that sort of thing and that's just part of most females DNA?
However, the one way wedding demands can lead to her getting her way in married life.
It doesn't have to however, and most BIG weddings are shows for friends and family anyway.
Sounds to me like you're pretty well suited , save for one major thing:
She seems very interested in bragging rights and what people ( friends /family) think.
Woman are really bad about picturing a fantasy lifestyle and assume the man will change to meet it.
Ok, I'd have a calm , loving heart to heart talk and lay out in basic, clear terms; YOUR dream lifestyle.
It's possible that if you BOTH stay calm, you could reach a compromise, BOTH can live with.
Now, ( this is important, so pay attention) *If she tries to laugh off your lifestyle ideas as silly
and only takes her side seriously, you've got some real problems brewing.
The best approach then, is to be firm but calm and matter of fact of what YOU really want.
She needs to accept that it takes two to make a marriage work.
All you can do is be fair , reasonable and be sure she knows YOU listened to HER.
Since you're younger them me, I need to share one more major issue with you.
Most woman can and do change between 20 to 35.
Not sure why, but they do and assume men will change like them...we don't.
For example, my 1st ex-wife changed her mind about wanting kids 3 yrs into the marriage.
I had two basic choices:
1. Have kids with her when I didn't want to
2. Divorce
I chose divorce with no regrets.
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Very few of my married friends are happy. A couple of them happy. The rest miserable, trapped, depressed.... in cheaper to keep her situations. Ive been with my wife 12 years, married for 2. I was happy for the first 10. Not so much since the wedding. Lots of people told me, they change once you marry them..... they were so right its. scary.
Bingo!
I'd suggest no man get married under age 30 .
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Having kids is very meaningful, not much time to explain why....
I believe you and am sure you had few if any doubts about becoming a father.
I sincerely believe some people are "called" to be parents. You must be one of those.
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you guys make it sound like your entitled to happiness? whatever gave you that idea
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Overall this one is pretty basic and simple.
As Poly and MOS already posted, for some guys, married with kids is the BEST.
It's obvious from his posts that MOS feels loved and adored by his wife and daughter.
I'd wager MOS is emotionally mature, stable and selfless.
Sadly, more men feel trapped when married with children.
For them I'd strongly advise to get divorced on the best terms possible and stay single.
In fact, I'd urge most guys under 30 to avoid marriage and/or getting any female pregnant.
Don't, I repeat don't get married and start a family because "it's just what you do."
In my case, I prefer being married and in a committed, relationship without children.
I was married and divorced a coupe times and I'm a real partner with my current wife.
To me, the big stress is having kids, BUT, everyone is different.
Bottom line : CHOOSE the relationship and lifestyle that suits you. Know this before you get involved with a woman or you might end up living like she prefers instead ( kids, married, etc )
I'd like to think I'm those things ;), but really my position is grounded in my faith; although, I no longer discuss such topics on these boards anymore.
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Most standard weddings today average much more than that... $35-50K. Unbelievable waste of money.
I refused to go with any BIG $$ wedding .
My current wife and paid for our own wedding ( around 4k* which included her dress, my suit, everything!) and had 40 close friends and family in a Chapel Cabin in the N Ga Mts.
It was very personal and meaningful.
Many woman that demand the big show, big $$ wedding will also assume they will get their way in the marriage.
First she demands and gets this big event wedding and feels like the queen of Sheba.
Then when she wants kids, she assumes he'll comply. Same with picking out the home, vacations, etc.
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I'd like to think I'm those things ;), but really my position is grounded in my faith; although, I no longer discuss such topics on these boards anymore.
I'm a pretty good judge of character and you seem to be a very solid dude.
What's that old adage...don't talk about religion or politics in public ;D
Anyhooooo, I'm one of those very moderate types on religion. I absolutely believe in GOD, but don't follow any one faith or religion. I happen to think that atheist are as extreme and close minded as any religious zealot.
God Bless and I hope you had a wonderful Christmas with your family.
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I'm a pretty good judge of character and you seem to be a very solid dude.
What's that old adage...don't talk about religion or politics in public ;D
Anyhooooo, I'm one of those very moderate types on religion. I absolutely believe in GOD, but don't follow any one faith or religion. I happen to think that atheist are as extreme and close minded as any religious zealot.
God Bless and I hope you had a wonderful Christmas with your family.
are you calling mos fat?
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are you calling mos fat?
Nope! I've got enough blubber for both of us plus you. :P
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Are single men happy?
Are old people happy?
Depends.
If you are selfish like most in the bodybuilding community are, then don't get married. And really don't have children.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get married? shit dude most true narcissits can't even have a meaning full relationship for more than a month or two
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My wife and I were blessed with kids who made it through the teen years without causing us much trouble. Not every parent is so lucky.
The love, life and many years together with your wife, is a VERY rare and wonderful situation.
I seriously doubt many younger get-biggers can even conceive of your situation.
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Thanks for the honest post.
Question: Overall , how stressful do you find raising kids to be?
Thanx. Right now very stressfull because my kids are very young (all under 6 y/o).
It is a very bussy household wich never takes a day off. Its simply hard work every day off the week.
Plus the money needs to keep rolling in to pay for it all so you got to keep grinding career wise (cant slack).
My wife does not work (raising the kids and right now she has some minor health problems) so I got to bring home the €€.
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I disagree. When you are married its harder to separate so the couple can sometimes save their marriage through counseling. Folks usually stay together because of kids. I see many couples that when the kids reach 18 they split. Very sad since they've been married for so long.
People should realize no one is perfect. We all screw up. Forgiveness and change is part of the healing.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For once a high quality post!!!!
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you guys make it sound like your entitled to happiness? whatever gave you that idea
^^
This is also true!
Lots of wise fellas in this thread....
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Thanx. Right now very stressfull because my kids are very young (all under 6 y/o).
It is a very bussy household wich never takes a day off. Its simply hard work every day off the week.
Plus the money needs to keep rolling in to pay for it all so you got to keep grinding career wise (cant slack).
My wife does not work (raising the kids and right now she has some minor health problems) so I got to bring home the €€.
In my humble opinion, having a full time, stay at home when kids are young is the ideal.
I don't think anyone has a perfect situation and everyone has different milestones in life.
Sounds like you're being practical and dealing with your situation in a proactive manner.
No doubt it's busy and stressful now, but you'll experience things I'll never know.
All the best and stay the course.
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Seems to be most people who are happily married are much happier then those who are "happily" single. Case in point....making threads on Getbig to try and convince yourself that people who are married cannot be happy.
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Great post and thanks for being honest about having to endure the big show wedding.
Lots of woman want that sort of thing and that's just part of most females DNA?
However, the one way wedding demands can lead to her getting her way in married life.
It doesn't have to however, and most BIG weddings are shows for friends and family anyway.
Sounds to me like you're pretty well suited , save for one major thing:
She seems very interested in bragging rights and what people ( friends /family) think.
Woman are really bad about picturing a fantasy lifestyle and assume the man will change to meet it.
Ok, I'd have a calm , loving heart to heart talk and lay out in basic, clear terms; YOUR dream lifestyle.
It's possible that if you BOTH stay calm, you could reach a compromise, BOTH can live with.
Now, ( this is important, so pay attention) *If she tries to laugh off your lifestyle ideas as silly
and only takes her side seriously, you've got some real problems brewing.
The best approach then, is to be firm but calm and matter of fact of what YOU really want.
She needs to accept that it takes two to make a marriage work.
All you can do is be fair , reasonable and be sure she knows YOU listened to HER.
Since you're younger them me, I need to share one more major issue with you.
Most woman can and do change between 20 to 35.
Not sure why, but they do and assume men will change like them...we don't.
For example, my 1st ex-wife changed her mind about wanting kids 3 yrs into the marriage.
I had two basic choices:
1. Have kids with her when I didn't want to
2. Divorce
I chose divorce with no regrets.
Many people are at the mercy of commercialism. A wedding is still a wedding even without all the pomp and circumstance. It might actually be a better wedding. A friend of mine spent $10,000 on her daughter's wedding dress in the 80's. The wedding and reception were completely over-the-top. Her daughter's marriage didn't make it past 10 years.
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get married? shit dude most true narcissits can't even have a meaning full relationship for more than a month or two
You're not a narcissist, youre just a weakling who wants people to pity him.
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part of the reason people feel this way is because it gives people an excuse to stop working on themselves
"oh cant do this or that, got kids you know........."
not gonna type out the whole theory but it's pretty straight forward and true, especially for poor people who never achieve shit
When you hate yourself and can't justify your own existence, going to the same degrading job day after day just to perpetuate your misery, you might choose to save yourself by having a kid.
Now you have 'purpose': if you don't continue to grind yourself to dust, your family will pay the price. And you can take some measure of satisfaction for your child's achievements. As long as you have some faith in your child's worth, you can keep going on.
But then, one day, your child doesn't need you anymore. He can support himself, and it's up to him whether he wants to remain associated with his now decrepit parents. And will be want to? Who would want to associate with people who predicate their entire existence on the value of their child, having no worth of their own.
Maybe the child, now an adult, will realize his parents for what they are: people who never found their place in the world and used their children to mask this horror, to overcome self-loathing and suicide or insanity.
Probably, at this point, the parents, being wretched as they are, will try to guilt their child into 'filial duty' or hold them hostage with inheritance... Now will the child be strong enough to cut the parasites off? Being their own spawn, I doubt it. More likely, he'll perpetuate the process, sing the praises of parenthood himself, and suffer quietly.
And so the world becomes a sickhouse...
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Lots of married guys in our gym genuinely hate their situation and wife.
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Based on this thread, only Grape Ape and I are both married and happy. The rest of the world is single or married and miserable.
A rarefied group to be sure.
edit: "and me"?
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Based on this thread, only Grape Ape and me are both married and happy. The rest of the world is single or married and miserable.
A rarefied group to be sure.
I'm happily married as well. Best decision i've made.
My second best decision.... staying single throughout my 20s & 30s.
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You're not a narcissist, youre just a weakling who wants people to pity him.
does a weakling give up his alcoholism (i was a heavy heavy drinker for 5 striaght years) cold turkey without any formal rehab? i think not
and where the fuck do you get this pity me stuff ??? show me where i've said whoa is me
i don't, i just constantly think and talk about myself, but i really am trying to make an effort to put others before me on some occasions
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When you hate yourself and can't justify your own existence, going to the same degrading job day after day just to perpetuate your misery, you might choose to save yourself by having a kid.
Now you have 'purpose': if you don't continue to grind yourself to dust, your family will pay the price. And you can take some measure of satisfaction for your child's achievements. As long as you have some faith in your child's worth, you can keep going on.
But then, one day, your child doesn't need you anymore. He can support himself, and it's up to him whether he wants to remain associated with his now decrepit parents. And will be want to? Who would want to associate with people who predicate their entire existence on the value of their child, having no worth of their own.
Maybe the child, now an adult, will realize his parents for what they are: people who never found their place in the world and used their children to mask this horror, to overcome self-loathing and suicide or insanity.
Probably, at this point, the parents, being wretched as they are, will try to guilt their child into 'filial duty' or hold them hostage with inheritance... Now will the child be strong enough to cut the parasites off? Being their own spawn, I doubt it. More likely, he'll perpetuate the process, sing the praises of parenthood himself, and suffer quietly.
And so the world becomes a sickhouse...
yes exactly what i mean
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Im 36 year old single (thank god to tinder) amd have a 8 year old
Feels like the tkmes past by in hyperspeed and sometimes i wonder how i would feel like if i didnt have her, i love kids. So prpbably feeling alittle sad and worried that it will never happem.... Or pinning 6grams of gear a weak dont giving a shit. Anyone of you ca 35 and up without kids worrying that it will never happen and you are going to get old alone... Couple of my friends are in that situation esp a girl heaeing her biological clock ticking away
Halo the adults are speaking now
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Im 36 year old single (thank god to tinder) amd have a 8 year old
Feels like the tkmes past by in hyperspeed and sometimes i wonder how i would feel like if i didnt have her, i love kids. So prpbably feeling alittle sad and worried that it will never happem.... Or pinning 6grams of gear a weak dont giving a shit. Anyone of you ca 35 and up without kids worrying that it will never happen and you are going to get old alone... Couple of my friends are in that situation esp a girl heaeing her biological clock ticking away
Halo the adults are speaking now
whatever makes you feel better about your situation, i dont give a damn guy
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Im 36 year old single (thank god to tinder) amd have a 8 year old
Feels like the tkmes past by in hyperspeed and sometimes i wonder how i would feel like if i didnt have her, i love kids. So prpbably feeling alittle sad and worried that it will never happem.... Or pinning 6grams of gear a weak dont giving a shit. Anyone of you ca 35 and up without kids worrying that it will never happen and you are going to get old alone... Couple of my friends are in that situation esp a girl heaeing her biological clock ticking away
Halo the adults are speaking now
Your daughter will one day be most honorable leader of best Korea.
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Seems to be most people who are happily married are much happier then those who are "happily" single. Case in point....making threads on Getbig to try and convince yourself that people who are married cannot be happy.
Seems people like Scorpio need to validate their lifestyle every couple of months.
Maybe he needs to buy himself another watch.
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People are taught that there must be a reason or motive for feellings such as happiness or sadness.
Happiness is a state of mind, you either choose to be happy or not, regardless of circunstances.
Married, single, driving a ferrari, searching food in a dumpster... it really doesn't matter, as long as you choose to be happy.
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Seems people like Scorpio need to validate their lifestyle every couple of months.
Maybe he needs to buy himself another watch.
I also have a mechanical watch problem...
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Given that you're chemically rewarded for breeding and whatnot, you'd think that most married family men ARE happy.
Those that go against that are the ones who are more likely to be not.
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What form does my "chemical reward" take? Want to be sure to cash in on this lucrative offer.
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does a weakling give up his alcoholism (i was a heavy heavy drinker for 5 striaght years) cold turkey without any formal rehab? i think not
and where the fuck do you get this pity me stuff ??? show me where i've said whoa is me
i don't, i just constantly think and talk about myself, but i really am trying to make an effort to put others before me on some occasions
you are not a narcissist you are just very insecure
i've never come across anyone that needs as much validation as you
i imagine girls in relationships with you would fuck off
after the millionth time you've asked them to compliment you about your abs
your life will change as soon as you lose that insecurity
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What form does my "chemical reward" take? Want to be sure to cash in on this lucrative offer.
From practical experience, it will manifest itself as a fairly consistent elevated mood due to the belief that your child is the greatest thing to ever happen to you, which is a by-product of hormonal changes in your brain.
"There's also preliminary but tantalizing evidence that fatherhood can change the brain. A 2006 study found enhancements in the prefrontal cortex of the father marmoset. After childbirth, the neurons in this region showed greater connectivity, suggesting that having young children could boost the part of the brain responsible for planning and memory, skills parents need when having kids gives them more to keep track of. The neurons also had more receptors for vasopressin, a hormone that has been shown to prompt animal fathers to bond with offspring. (Receiving an injection of vasopressin, for instance, prompts a male prairie vole to cuddle and groom a youngster.)"
However, it's not all good:
"In addition, dads-to-be have elevated levels of cortisol and prolactin, hormones that are also present in high levels among mothers who are attached and responsive to their children. A father's testosterone level also drops by about a third, on average, in the first three weeks after his child is born. These hormonal shifts, which are likely sparked by exposure to the pregnant woman's hormones (there is correlational evidence that dads who spend time with moms experience the changes), mirror those experienced by mothers and may similarly prepare men for parenthood. Men who have relatively little testosterone have been shown, for instance, to hold baby dolls longer than men who are flooded with the sex hormone. High levels of testosterone, on the other hand, are associated with "incompatible non-nurturing behaviors," as one researcher put it. If dads roared along on their usual levels of the hormone, the theory goes, they'd be too busy fighting other men and seducing other women to do much diaper-changing"
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2007/06/stretch_marks_for_dads.html
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I'm happily married as well. Best decision i've made.
I believe nzmm is on the list as well.
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I'm happily married as well. Best decision i've made.
My second best decision.... staying single throughout my 20s & 30s.
Good point and I think you're path of marrying older then most do is a great idea.
Married and having kids as a man under 35 is a difficult road to travel
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Married and having kids as a man under 35 is a difficult road to travel
No, not really.
It's different for everyone is the correct answer.
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I guess,
I see some people praise their wives...."she's my rock" "without her I'm nothing"
I've never met a woman that made me feel this way. They're all attracted to what I already had before I ever met them, be my looks, or charisma or career....and if anything they only hold me back, my training suffers, my savings take a hit....etc, every time.
so much this!!^^^^
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No, not really.
It's different for everyone is the correct answer.
I'll be the first to agree that nobody can predict ALL human behavior and preferences .
BUT the AVERAGE man would be better off waiting until his mid 30's to get married.
Maturity that comes with age and life experience is important.
For example, I was a much better college student after my 4 yrs active duty in the USMC.
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I'll be the first to agree that nobody can predict ALL human behavior and preferences .
BUT the AVERAGE man would be better off waiting until his mid 30's to get married.
That's not fact, it's just your opinion.
But you moved the goalposts - your original statement involved the perceived difficulty of having kids before 35. You have no experience with this and are just yammering. The fact that you jump into this subject ad-nauseum makes it feel as if you have doubts about not having them.
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Marriage counseling could make a vast improvement. Both parties need to be onboard for it to work, though. Best of luck, man.
Depends?
My ex-wife wanted kids 2-3 years into the marriage and I never did.
I agreed to go to a licensed therapist with her on this issue.
The therapist concluded what we both knew and expressed:
1.She had really developed a deep need to have children and be a mom.
2.I never wanted kids and had zero desire to be a father.
She was horrified at first and (wrongly) assumed, I had something wrong that could be changed.
Good marriage counseling can point out what they issues are and how each person feels.
BUT, they can't really change how a person feels on key issues.
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you are not a narcissist you are just very insecure
i've never come across anyone that needs as much validation as you
i imagine girls in relationships with you would fuck off
after the millionth time you've asked them to compliment you about your abs
your life will change as soon as you lose that insecurity
allright, fair enough
and you are right that i'm not able to keep girls in a relationship with me, that's true, but i am really making an effort to change my behaviors with them and not to expect them to constantly validate me and i'm really trying to sympathize and identify with them, and ask them about themsleves and not constantly talk about me
i remember once i was with a friend and we were hanging out with two girls that we met at the club a few days before, and my friend was kicking me in the shins and telling me to shut the fuck up and stop talking about myself, true story
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That's not fact, it's just your opinion.
But you moved the goalposts - your original statement involved the perceived difficulty of having kids before 35. You have no experience with this and are just yammering. The fact that you jump into this subject ad-nauseum makes it feel as if you have doubts about not having them.
I've got you...... ;)
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allright, fair enough
and you are right that i'm not able to keep girls in a relationship with me, that's true, but i am really making an effort to change my behaviors with them and not to expect them to constantly validate me and i'm really trying to sympathize and identify with them, and ask them about themsleves and not constantly talk about me
i remember once i was with a friend and we were hanging out with two girls that we met at the club a few days before, and my friend was kicking me in the shins and telling me to shut the fuck up and stop talking about myself, true story
Women smell insecurities and are turn off by it cause they are insecure estrogen bitches themselves. Big dick, big bank account and winner attitude is the formula to keep em imo.
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Women smell insecurities and are turn off by it cause they are insecure estrogen bitches themselves. Big dick, big bank account and winner attitude is the formula to keep em imo.
interesting you say that, coz my boxing coach has really been trying to drive into my mind the idea that women love and want money
but my female friends have told me that they want CONFIDENCE not money
as king crimson says.... "confusion will be my epitaph"
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interesting you say that, coz my boxing coach has really been trying to drive into my mind the idea that women love and want money
but my female friends have told me that they want CONFIDENCE not money
as king crimson says.... "confusion will be my epitaph"
if you have no money it doesnt matter how confident you are.
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if you have no money it doesnt matter how confident you are.
that's true in a long term realtionship, but just for one night stands or pick ups confidence wins it i guess
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I've got you...... ;)
You are seriously warped.
I'm guessing, by your logic, some other poster used that term an now you think you have some "gotcha" moment.
Have at it, you admitted dicksucker.
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You are seriously warped.
I'm guessing, by your logic, some other poster used that term an now you think you have some "gotcha" moment.
Have at it, you admitted dicksucker.
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It's good for some, not for everyone.
You have to know what kind of person you are.
x10
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Same old same old with you.
King of faking your own death
King of sucking a dude off (admitted on multiple occasions)
King of being owned by Goodrum.
Booze, post truth, sober up, recant, accuse mods, post stupid picture, whine to mods,......wash, rinse, repeat. ::)
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When you hate yourself and can't justify your own existence, going to the same degrading job day after day just to perpetuate your misery, you might choose to save yourself by having a kid.
Now you have 'purpose': if you don't continue to grind yourself to dust, your family will pay the price. And you can take some measure of satisfaction for your child's achievements. As long as you have some faith in your child's worth, you can keep going on.
But then, one day, your child doesn't need you anymore. He can support himself, and it's up to him whether he wants to remain associated with his now decrepit parents. And will be want to? Who would want to associate with people who predicate their entire existence on the value of their child, having no worth of their own.
Maybe the child, now an adult, will realize his parents for what they are: people who never found their place in the world and used their children to mask this horror, to overcome self-loathing and suicide or insanity.
Probably, at this point, the parents, being wretched as they are, will try to guilt their child into 'filial duty' or hold them hostage with inheritance... Now will the child be strong enough to cut the parasites off? Being their own spawn, I doubt it. More likely, he'll perpetuate the process, sing the praises of parenthood himself, and suffer quietly.
And so the world becomes a sickhouse...
Happy New Year dude...
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That's not fact, it's just your opinion.
But you moved the goalposts - your original statement involved the perceived difficulty of having kids before 35. You have no experience with this and are just yammering. The fact that you jump into this subject ad-nauseum makes it feel as if you have doubts about not having them.
Of course it's just my opinion based on my personal observations. No more, no less.
I find the topic interesting . I am always perplexed why so many other guys seem to fall backwards into fatherhood without a lot of thinking beforehand.
I always considering having kids as work , $$ and stress. I've been that way since I was a teen and never waivered.
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I find the topic interesting
Clearly - you've posted that many times in this thread I am thinking of finding Bono and punching him in the face...
;)
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Very original, never seen that before.....
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I believe nzmm is on the list as well.
You know it 8)
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Clearly - you've posted that many times in this thread I am thinking of finding Bono and cumming on him in the face...
;)
fixed
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Happy New Year dude...
;D ;D ;D
Actually I was discussing this exact subject with my friend (a new father) as the year changed.
I'm not saying this process applies to everyone, its just a hypothesis I dreamed up to fit many people (self included, of course) I observe.
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and where the fuck do you get this pity me stuff ??? show me where i've said whoa is me
Why do you think people advertise their insecurities and seek validation?
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Why do you think people advertise their insecurities and seek validation?
like how do they advertise their insecurities?
give me an example of this
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Lots of married guys in our gym genuinely hate their situation and wife.
Then they should do their wife and kids a favor and leave.
A lot of spouses complain about their partners and kids when in the company of friends of the same sex. It often doesn't mean anything.
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Based on this thread, only Grape Ape and I are both married and happy. The rest of the world is single or married and miserable.
A rarefied group to be sure.
edit: "and me"?
I'm VERY happy being married. My wife is my lover , partner and best friend.
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Then they should do their wife and kids a favor and leave.
A lot of spouses complain about their partners and kids when in the company of friends of the same sex. It often doesn't mean anything.
Yes, some of it is the typical "tongue in cheek" self loathing banter.
BUT to me, it implies the one thing I detest: "it's inevitable "
I would hope you and most others here would know I
think marriage and having children should be a CHOICE.
Every man is different and my choice won't be what others want and vice versa.
I can understand a man who doesn't want to get married , or wants to have children, etc.
It's not what they choose that bugs me, ( again) it's this attitude some have that having kids is inevitable.
My wife's hairdresser has 4 kids from 2 different husbands.
She acts like having kids is inevitable , especially when you get married.
She actually said ;" You get married and the babies start coming."
I've been told by countless men that they had kids because their wife really wanted babies.
They shrug their shoulders and act like some hapless stooge that had no chance in the matter.
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A marriage is much like a late-night phone call. You get a ring, and then you wake up.
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A marriage is much like a late-night phone call. You get a ring, and then you wake up.
..or in my case, you answer , realize who's on the line and hang up on 'em ;)
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I never wanted kids and had zero desire to be a father.
Dear Howard,
Your status as an unapologetic "bare branch," i.e., as an impenitent reproductive loser, is an affront to nature and to God Almighty, who implanted receptive pleasures under your thongs for the sake of promoting procreation. You, Howard, defraud the design of this plan: you are all too happy to take these pleasures without giving a modicum of reciprocal contribution. For shame. You come from a long, unbroken chain of progenitors, of ancestors, but you will not be an ancestor yourself.
Read, Howard, read from the Parable of the Barren Fig Tree (Isaiah 5:1-7)
A man had a fig tree that was planted in his vineyard [that's you, Howard, you're the fig tree]. He went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any [that's you again, Howard, you have not produced sweet offspring. You cheat providence's reason for planting you in the fertile vineyard of life. It looks to see the fruit of your loins only to find the nada, zilch, bupkis of self-indulgent sex]. So he said to the keeper of the vineyard, "Look, for the past three years I have come to search for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Therefore cut it down! Why should it use up the soil? [Howard, how does a barren fig tree like you justify using up soil in the vineyard of life after having for so long produced no fruit?]
Good day.
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Dear Howard,
Your status as an unapologetic "bare branch," i.e., as an impenitent reproductive loser, is an affront to nature and to God Almighty, who implanted receptive pleasures under your thongs for the sake of promoting procreation. You, Howard, defraud the design of this plan: you are all too happy to take these pleasures without giving a modicum of reciprocal contribution. For shame. You come from a long, unbroken chain of progenitors, of ancestors, but you will not be an ancestor yourself.
Read, Howard, read from the Parable of the Barren Fig Tree (Isaiah 5:1-7)
A man had a fig tree that was planted in his vineyard [that's you, Howard, you're the fig tree]. He went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any [that's you again, Howard, you have not produced sweet offspring. You cheat providence's reason for planting you in the fertile vineyard of life. It looks to see the fruit of your loins only to find the nada, zilch, bupkis of self-indulgent sex]. So he said to the keeper of the vineyard, "Look, for the past three years I have come to search for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Therefore cut it down! Why should it use up the soil? [Howard, how does a barren fig tree like you justify using up soil in the vineyard of life after having for so long produced no fruit?]
Good day.
Producing fruit at this point is taking up more space and having to be crammed in with the existing fruit.
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like how do they advertise their insecurities?
give me an example of this
"i squatted 65 lbs today, oh my god i suck"
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Mixing with existing fruit presents no problems as long they keep their hands off the goods (Lord knows they try).
Fruit goes bad.
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I'll be the first to agree that nobody can predict ALL human behavior and preferences .
BUT the AVERAGE man would be better off waiting until his mid 30's to get married.
Maturity that comes with age and life experience is important.
For example, I was a much better college student after my 4 yrs active duty in the USMC.
You may be right, mainly because people are living longer. The negative side of this is that when those kids are teenagers and young adults, between the ages of 13 and 23, they are the most difficult to parent. This means the first born will be going through this period when the parent is roughly 55 years old. Younger parents often have more energy and are less doting, thus allowing the child to mature. Children who are overprotected and spoiled often take longer to mature, if they ever do.
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"i squatted 65 lbs today, oh my god i suck"
Is this because you skip leg days?
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I've a few single friends or separated from wife and they are the guys I would party or go out with whereas it's the married guys who'd call for a cup of coffee and a catch up. Very few if none of my friends have 100% happy marriage and wouldn't fuck the sexy woman nextdoor if they thought they'd get away with it.
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I've a few single friends or separated from wife and they are the guys I would party or go out with whereas it's the married guys who'd call for a cup of coffee and a catch up. Very few if none of my friends have 100% happy marriage and wouldn't fuck the sexy woman nextdoor if they thought they'd get away with it.
Honest question - are their wives hot?
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Yes, some of it is the typical "tongue in cheek" self loathing banter.
BUT to me, it implies the one thing I detest: "it's inevitable "
I would hope you and most others here would know I
think marriage and having children should be a CHOICE.
Every man is different and my choice won't be what others want and vice versa.
I can understand a man who doesn't want to get married , or wants to have children, etc.
It's not what they choose that bugs me, ( again) it's this attitude some have that having kids is inevitable.
My wife's hairdresser has 4 kids from 2 different husbands.
She acts like having kids is inevitable , especially when you get married.
She actually said ;" You get married and the babies start coming."
I've been told by countless men that they had kids because their wife really wanted babies.
They shrug their shoulders and act like some hapless stooge that had no chance in the matter.
Most of what we think, do and live is a choice. Different people make different choices, which is mostly a good thing. We are not robots.
Your wife's hairdresser seems like an idiot. Her comment makes it seem like she believes she had nothing to do with having four children. Does she think humans are like ferns randomly distributing spores?
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Honest question - are their wives hot?
5-7s
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I'm VERY happy being married. My wife is my lover , partner and best friend.
How many times did you convince yourself of this? How many times were you married and divorced?
Idiot supreme.
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5-7s
I believe that's part of the problem.
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I believe that's part of the problem.
Not everyone can be banging 10's man.
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Not everyone can be banging 10's man.
Obviously not, but coming home to someone you're attracted to is a big part of the game, I'd think.
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Not everyone can be banging 10's man.
Dont worry, Grape Ape is a selfish, gimmick prick.
He will be dealt with.
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Dont worry, Grape Ape is a selfish, gimmick prick.
He will be dealt with.
Calm down beverage king, GA is a very decent poster
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Calm down beverage king, GA is a very decent poster
Thank you DP.
Shitzo is obviously drinking, and derailing many threads tonight - he's done this in at least 4 threads I just clicked on to read.
Obviously melting again.
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Thank you DP.
Shitzo is obviously drinking, and derailing many threads tonight - he's done this in at least 4 threads I just clicked on to read.
Obviously melting again.
To make it an op-topic again, Shizzo needs a caring woman in his life, one that keeps a close eye on him.
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To make it an op-topic again, Shizzo needs a caring woman in his life, one that keeps a close eye on him.
He needs something other than this place, that is for sure.
He melted to the point of making threats against me (again).
It's getting sad. I guess him getting owned up and down the site by multiple members is better than no attention at all?
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He needs something other than this place, that is for sure.
He melted to the point of making threats against me (again).
It's getting sad. I guess him getting owned up and down the site by multiple members is better than no attention at all?
Good question.. why would someone bitch around all the time, for therapeutic reasons ???
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Good question.. why would someone bitch around all the time, for therapeutic reasons ???
No idea. I generally try to ignore him, but for some reason he thought he "had" me today because I used a common term and he started his bullshit/threats. Then when I noticed he was getting into multiple fights in multiple threads, I realized he's probably drunk again.
It's the same pattern with him - we've seen it for years now. Combine this with his recently admitted sexual confusion, he's probably a mess right now.
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Most people who love the bodybuilding lifestyle have major issues with closeness. Trust issues. Stuff from the past.
If you are a man on this message board, you will always attract and be in a relationship with women just like you.
PROBLEMS WITH INTIMACY.
I can see how relationships don't work and seem impossible.
THERAPY.
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Dont worry, Grape Ape is a selfish, gimmick prick.
He will be dealt with.
Denounced by shizzo: sure sign of a quality poster.
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Denounced by shizzo: sure sign of a quality poster.
Many thanks cephissus.
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I wonder why self-proclaimed, "never gettin hitched" single men would be at all concerned with whether or not married men are happy?
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LOL! Of course not!
You sleep with the same increasingly fat heifer and stick it in the same stale, loose pussy. Day after day, year after year.
All middle-aged husbands fantasize over the idea of suicide or running away and obtaining a new identity.
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Depends?
My ex-wife wanted kids 2-3 years into the marriage and I never did.
I agreed to go to a licensed therapist with her on this issue.
The therapist concluded what we both knew and expressed:
1.She had really developed a deep need to have children and be a mom.
2.I never wanted kids and had zero desire to be a father.
She was horrified at first and (wrongly) assumed, I had something wrong that could be changed.
Good marriage counseling can point out what they issues are and how each person feels.
BUT, they can't really change how a person feels on key issues.
This is a very beta story to be telling, Howard.
Strange that you would need to see a therapist to conclude that a therapist is not a hypnotist.
and kind of horrifying that she assumed there was something wrong with you. I find that offensive.
It almost sounds as if she required the therapist's word to believe you and to me, that's someone who doesn't think very highly of your decision making.
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How many times did you convince yourself of this? How many times were you married and divorced?
Idiot supreme.
The (ex)-wives changed big time and I didn't.
For example, 2 years after we were married, the first wife changed her mind on having kids, I didn't.
Only a supreme idiot would go along with something they dreaded doing , when they had a CHOICE.
Things change over time and that changes everything.
I'm happy with my wife now and it's not likely either of us will change much being older.
But hey, ya never know for sure. If she comes home today and says she REALLY wants to adopt a child, it could be over?!. :o
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a sweet Jewess scared of getting married, who can blame her?
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Dear Howard,
Your status as an unapologetic "bare branch," i.e., as an impenitent reproductive loser, is an affront to nature and to God Almighty, who implanted receptive pleasures under your thongs for the sake of promoting procreation. You, Howard, defraud the design of this plan: you are all too happy to take these pleasures without giving a modicum of reciprocal contribution. For shame. You come from a long, unbroken chain of progenitors, of ancestors, but you will not be an ancestor yourself.
Read, Howard, read from the Parable of the Barren Fig Tree (Isaiah 5:1-7)
A man had a fig tree that was planted in his vineyard [that's you, Howard, you're the fig tree]. He went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any [that's you again, Howard, you have not produced sweet offspring. You cheat providence's reason for planting you in the fertile vineyard of life. It looks to see the fruit of your loins only to find the nada, zilch, bupkis of self-indulgent sex]. So he said to the keeper of the vineyard, "Look, for the past three years I have come to search for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Therefore cut it down! Why should it use up the soil? [Howard, how does a barren fig tree like you justify using up soil in the vineyard of life after having for so long produced no fruit?]
Good day.
The earth's population exceeds 6 billion and rapidly going up to 7 billion.
In my view , I'm helping to keep that boom in check .
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a sweet Jewess scared of getting married, who can blame her?
Great song, incredible moving lyrics with real wisdom.
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Great song, incredible moving lyrics with real wisdom.
yep. yep
jews are second to Germanics and WASP's as the cream of the crop
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The earth's population exceeds 6 billion and rapidly going up to 7 billion.
In my view , I'm helping to keep that boom in check .
Howard, you are not thinking like a Ph.D. You've offered a reason for your choice, not a justification (reasons are not necessarily support).
Are we to understand that you don't want to sire children because you want to "help?"
Look here, old bean, you seem to have fallen into the Malthusian fallacy of inserting either a moral or pragmatic value into your refusal to participate in the natural phenomena of procreation and its concomitant population growth. For countless millennia, continuous advance in human population follows the natural order of things -- it is value-free (reproduction is a result of selective fitness, wherein value-laden notions over social/moral matters do not apply). Consequently, so what if an ever-increasing population leads to catastrophe?
Howard, as a bare branch and barren fig tree, please consider this insight about your arboreal cousins:
Just as trees in a forest that are close and cramped to each other compete for resources such as water, air, and sun, for the very reason that each endeavors to rob the other of these resources by competition, each forces each other to shoot upwards in this quest, and thus they grow tall, straight, and beautiful — whereas those trees which are planted far away from each other under no conflict or competition, grow stunted, crooked, and deformed.
Dear boy, social conflict, competition, and antagonism force the species to advance (e.g., unsocial sociability: "Man wishes concord; but Nature knows better what is good for the species; she wills discord").
If you are concerned with "helping," consider that your opting out of fathering children contributes to the fact that those in the upper quintile of intelligence and means are being out-sired by the rancid rabble. This is not a bad thing, per se, but the rabble think they matter when the grand designer has conditioned them for nothing other than fodderous material.
Moreover, wouldn't you agree that the world needs more Howards to offset the unrelenting, disproportionate influx of more Hamaads and Hakeems?
You are not "helping," quite the contrary.
Go father children. Yes, you'll be unhappy and miserable, but the content of your balls never promised you a schmoe's garden.
Good day.
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I had two friends who seemed to have the perfect life...both fell off the wagon lately, one is signed off sick due to depression caused by stress, or stress caused by depression whatever, for many years I saw the Facebook posts, the new house they bought together, the smiley engagement pics abroad, the "beautiful" wedding and wife, the honey moon and then the many baby pics to follow.
Now there's hardly any posts, I spoke to him, he told me he's been unhappy for many years and felt trapped for a long time.
This is a handsome well to do fella too. Every time I question my solo wolf lifestyle I get a reality check.
That describes what my marriage was like. Just separated in September. Being a single dad is alright though. I'm sure marriage is fine if you choose someone that is suited for you. I didn't do that unfortunately.
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This is a very beta story to be telling, Howard.
Strange that you would need to see a therapist to conclude that a therapist is not a hypnotist.
and kind of horrifying that she assumed there was something wrong with you. I find that offensive.
It almost sounds as if she required the therapist's word to believe you and to me, that's someone who doesn't think very highly of your decision making.
My ex-wife wrongly assumed I had something wrong with me by not wanting kids.
The therapist simply verified for her what I already knew and said.
This led to my divorcing her and not caving into her demands to have children.
Hmmm, in my opinion, the real beta males are the ones that give in and change to suit her.
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Howard, you are not thinking like a Ph.D. You've offered a reason for your choice, not a justification (reasons are not necessarily support).
Are we to understand that you don't want to sire children because you want to "help?"
Look here, old bean, you seem to have fallen into the Malthusian fallacy of inserting either a moral or pragmatic value into your refusal to participate in the natural phenomena of procreation and its concomitant population growth. For countless millennia, continuous advances in human population follows the natural order of things -- it is value-free (reproduction is a result of selective fitness, wherein value-laden notions over social/moral matters do not apply). Consequently, so what if an ever-increasing population leads to catastrophe?
Howard, as a bare branch and barren fig tree, please consider this insight about your arboreal cousins:
Just as trees in a forest that are close and cramped to each other compete for resources such as water, air, and sun, for the very reason that each endeavors to rob the other of these resources by competition, each forces each other to shoot upwards in this quest, and thus they grow tall, straight, and beautiful — whereas those trees which are planted far away from each other under no conflict or competition, grow stunted, crooked, and deformed.
Dear boy, social conflict, competition, and antagonism force the species to advance (e.g., unsocial sociability: "Man wishes concord; but Nature knows better what is good for the species; she wills discord").
If you are concerned with "helping," consider that your opting out of fathering children contributes to the fact that those in the upper quintile of intelligence and means are being out-sired by the rancid rabble. This is not a bad thing, per se, but the rabble think they matter when the grand designer has conditioned them for nothing other than fodderous material.
Moreover, wouldn't you agree that the world needs more Howards to offset the unrelenting, disproportionate influx of more Hamaads and Hakeems?
You are not "helping," quite the contrary.
Go father children. Yes, you'll be unhappy and miserable, but the content of your balls never promised you a schmoes garden.
Good day.
Two ex-wives , in-laws and a variety of people couldn't change my mind on wanting kids.
Only a true get-bigger would think their post would do the job LOL
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No idea. I generally try to ignore him, but for some reason he thought he "had" me today because I used a common term and he started his bullshit/threats. Then when I noticed he was getting into multiple fights in multiple threads, I realized he's probably drunk again.
It's the same pattern with him - we've seen it for years now. Combine this with his recently admitted sexual confusion, he's probably a mess right now.
If your assessment about Shizzo is correct, what affect do you think getting slammed by some Getbig posters is having on him? Do you believe the negative attention he gets is better than ignoring him? He recently confessed that he's back on the sauce. This is his problem, but do you think heckling him helps or hinders his sobriety?
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If your assessment about Shizzo is correct, what affect do you think getting slammed by some Getbig posters is having on him? Do you believe the negative attention he gets is better than ignoring him? He recently confessed that he's back on the sauce. This is his problem, but do you think heckling him helps or hinders his sobriety?
I have no idea, but I'm not going to waste time contemplating it. He chooses this environment, so it's on him.
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If your assessment about Shizzo is correct, what affect do you think getting slammed by some Getbig posters is having on him? Do you believe the negative attention he gets is better than ignoring him? He recently confessed that he's back on the sauce. This is his problem, but do you think heckling him helps or hinders his sobriety?
Hopefully makes him question his pathetic worthless miserable existance or at the very least make him consider self harm.
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Hopefully makes him question his pathetic worthless miserable existance or at the very least make him consider self harm.
Surely, you are kidding.
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Hopefully makes him question his pathetic worthless miserable existance or at the very least make him consider self harm.
Anyone who would seriously be effected by comments made on get-big, deserves where they end up.
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Anyone who would seriously be effected by comments made on get-big, deserves where they end up.
Your post assumes all folks here are mentally and emotionally healthy. Anyone who knows that they are seriously affected by other's comments, should not be a reader or a member of Getbig. Unfortunately, not everyone knows this about themselves.
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Two ex-wives , in-laws and a variety of people couldn't change my mind on wanting kids.
Only a true get-bigger would think their post would do the job LOL
Written thong-in-cheek, Howard.
Best.
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Written thong-in-cheek, Howard.
Best.
Just remember, anal sex is God's best natural birth control. ;D
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Howard, as a bare branch and barren fig tree, please consider this insight about your arboreal cousins:
Just as trees in a forest that are close and cramped to each other compete for resources such as water, air, and sun, for the very reason that each endeavors to rob the other of these resources by competition, each forces each other to shoot upwards in this quest, and thus they grow tall, straight, and beautiful — whereas those trees which are planted far away from each other under no conflict or competition, grow stunted, crooked, and deformed.
Fantastic transition, Khan, but might I suggest drawing support from material more to the taste of your audience: this same analogy would doubtless elicit sensational response if dressed in racial colors; e.g. the relative proximity of European and African tribes, etc.
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My ex-wife wrongly assumed I had something wrong with me by not wanting kids.
The therapist simply verified for her what I already knew and said.
This led to my divorcing her and not caving into her demands to have children.
Hmmm, in my opinion, the real beta males are the ones that give in and change to suit her.
You're right, the beta males are the ones that change.
I just don't like the suggestion by the wife to you that you need an outside person to corroborate your feelings on such a simple issue.
IE, I would refuse to go to the therapist.
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You're right, the beta males are the ones that change.
I just don't like the suggestion by the wife to you that you need an outside person to corroborate your feelings on such a simple issue.
IE, I would refuse to go to the therapist.
I considered refusing but it would have made the inevitable divorce more stressful.
She (wrongly) assumed the counselor would set me straight and I'd change and want to have kids with her.
I was very secure in my beliefs and had nothing to fear.
We were both counseled separately , then together.
He told her;" There is nothing wrong with Howard. He's quite secure in who he is and what he wants in life.
The problem is , when it comes to children you have opposite feelings and goals."
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Fantastic transition, Khan, but might I suggest drawing support from material more to the taste of your audience: this same analogy would doubtless elicit sensational response if dressed in racial colors; e.g. the relative proximity of European and African tribes, etc.
Thanks, Ceph.
But I'd rather Kahndescend than descend to vulgarity. Besides, you and I know that there are many here who get it, and to those who don't, it's still all good.
Best.
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Thanks, Ceph.
But I'd rather Kahndescend than descend to vulgarity. Besides, you and I know that there are many here who get it, and to those who don't, it's still all good.
Best.
Kahndescend......hilario us. You are quite witty.
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I considered refusing but it would have made the inevitable divorce more stressful.
She (wrongly) assumed the counselor would set me straight and I'd change and want to have kids with her.
I was very secure in my beliefs and had nothing to fear.
We were both counseled separately , then together.
He told her;" There is nothing wrong with Howard. He's quite secure in who he is and what he wants in life.
The problem is , when it comes to children you have opposite feelings and goals."
Fair enough, brother.
I absolve you of my beta claim.
As long as you at least considered refusing, you upheld your right to have your own, unmolested opinion.
As a follow up, I'd like to question your philosophy a little. I often ponder this very issue.
If the girl was absolutely fucking amazing looking - would you have given her a kid?
Reason I say is that I had a fucking amazing gf (I am quite ugly) and she wanted another kid (had one with someone else), but it never got to that because she went back to her previous baby daddy, fearing I think that I didn't want children (without asking me - though I am hardly the type of person who projects family first).
But the truth is that because she was so delicious, I would have.
What about you - for fucking amazing girl, would you have changed your tune?
It sounds horrible, but the hotness of the woman really does come into question on whether I would cop to bringing another human being on board.
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Skorpio are you looking for our acceptance to the fact that you are 40, single and happy? Because we all know this topic is done to death and most married people aren't happy from various obvious reasons, so have you secretely gotten second thoughts on your situation? Because forget it.
Being single is the new normal because science has gotten so awesome that we don't need sperm or eggs to evolve.
Anyhoo, here's something that might be funny related to this topic. A person I know got engaged. Me, him and his future wife of choice were talking this and that which eventually lead to one night stands versus sex in a good relationship. Being single and a gb'er, I knew this was going to be awesome.
She strongly suggested that women have great sex only in a good relationship. Well then I called my sex partner, put on loud speaker and she answers the phone like "babyyyy I miss yoouuuuu!", put off the loud speaker and told her I call you back. Then I smiled and told this woman that no woman misses a man unless she loves the d, no love lost, no love found. She was very upset and only talked with my guy afterwards ignoring me.
DEVILSMILE WHERE YOU AT???
YOU A GREAT POSTER. PLEASE RETURN.
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Marriage might make men happy, but the divorce that over half of them will wind up in probably won't.
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I'd tell you the long, boring story of my blissfully, ridiculously happy second marriage of 6 1/2 years (so far), but the particulars aren't really important to anyone else but me.
If you're looking for a marriage (or anything else external, for that matter) to "make" you happy, you're going to be disappointed every time.
The only thing worse than being a miserable single guy, is being a miserable married guy.
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Howard, you are not thinking like a Ph.D. You've offered a reason for your choice, not a justification (reasons are not necessarily support).
Are we to understand that you don't want to sire children because you want to "help?"
Look here, old bean, you seem to have fallen into the Malthusian fallacy of inserting either a moral or pragmatic value into your refusal to participate in the natural phenomena of procreation and its concomitant population growth. For countless millennia, continuous advance in human population follows the natural order of things -- it is value-free (reproduction is a result of selective fitness, wherein value-laden notions over social/moral matters do not apply). Consequently, so what if an ever-increasing population leads to catastrophe?
Howard, as a bare branch and barren fig tree, please consider this insight about your arboreal cousins:
Just as trees in a forest that are close and cramped to each other compete for resources such as water, air, and sun, for the very reason that each endeavors to rob the other of these resources by competition, each forces each other to shoot upwards in this quest, and thus they grow tall, straight, and beautiful — whereas those trees which are planted far away from each other under no conflict or competition, grow stunted, crooked, and deformed.
Dear boy, social conflict, competition, and antagonism force the species to advance (e.g., unsocial sociability: "Man wishes concord; but Nature knows better what is good for the species; she wills discord").
If you are concerned with "helping," consider that your opting out of fathering children contributes to the fact that those in the upper quintile of intelligence and means are being out-sired by the rancid rabble. This is not a bad thing, per se, but the rabble think they matter when the grand designer has conditioned them for nothing other than fodderous material.
Moreover, wouldn't you agree that the world needs more Howards to offset the unrelenting, disproportionate influx of more Hamaads and Hakeems?
You are not "helping," quite the contrary.
Go father children. Yes, you'll be unhappy and miserable, but the content of your balls never promised you a schmoe's garden.
Good day.
Reminds me of the conflict between Vince Basile, 1970 Mr. Canada and Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. Both in competition to achieve getbig supremacy. If these two trees (Basile and Goodrum) never posted on getbig, surely they would have not reached such great heights, for the competition enabled both trees to "grow tall, straight, and beautiful." Some cosmic force must have compelled these two trees to post under the same forum. In the end, I think Basile and Goodrum's rivalry can best be captured by Nietzsche's thought on friendship: "Let us then believe in our star friendship even if we should be compelled to be earth enemies.”
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I'd tell you the long, boring story of my blissfully, ridiculously happy second marriage of 6 1/2 years (so far), but the particulars aren't really important to anyone else but me.
If you're looking for a marriage (or anything else external, for that matter) to "make" you happy, you're going to be disappointed every time.
The only thing worse than being a miserable single guy, is being a miserable married guy.
this
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I dont chime in on here often...but this is a topic where I feel compelled to do so....
Getting ass and being in shape, having freedom and money NEVER gets old, EVER.
Im forty seven years old.
Never once has someone come up to me, put their arm around me and said" hey bud, getting married was the smartest thing I have ever done, I urge you to do the same as soon as you can"...
How many times have I heard "dont EVER EVER fucking get married"? At least 1000 times.
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I dont chime in on here often...but this is a topic I fell compelled to do so....
Getting ass and being in shape, having freedom and money NEVER gets old, EVER.
Im forty seven years old.
Never once has someone come up to me, put there arm around me and said" hey bud, getting married was the smartest thing I have ever done, I urge you to do the same as soon as you can"...
How many times have I heard "dont EVER EVER fucking get married"? At least 1000 times.
True words. Just observe happy looking couples on the streets. Most of them aren't married and don't have kids.
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Reminds me of the conflict between Vince Basile, 1970 Mr. Canada and Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. Both in competition to achieve getbig supremacy. If these two trees (Basile and Goodrum) never posted on getbig, surely they would have not reached such great heights, for the competition enabled both trees to "grow tall, straight, and beautiful." Some cosmic force must have compelled these two trees to post under the same forum. In the end, I think Basile and Goodrum's rivalry can best be captured by Nietzsche's thought on friendship: "Let us then believe in our star friendship even if we should be compelled to be earth enemies.”
Deep bro, deep. Beautifull. Should be posted in " best qoutes "
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Deep bro, deep. Beautifull. Should be posted in " best qoutes "
You know you have made it in life when a post winds up in the "Best Quotes" page. :D :D
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You know you have made it in life when a post winds up in the "Best Quotes" page. :D :D
Its done bro....I brought your post to this walhalla of recognition just a minute ago.
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Its done bro....I brought your post to this walhalla of recognition just a minute ago.
Thank you. I feel as though my life is complete now. What more is left?
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True words. Just observe happy looking couples on the streets. Most of them aren't married and don't have kids.
i love having a gf (dont live together) dont co-mingle funds, we see each other every so often, simple fun loving life.
great book on the topic - quick youtube vid
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I dont chime in on here often...but this is a topic I fell compelled to do so....
Getting ass and being in shape, having freedom and money NEVER gets old, EVER.
Im forty seven years old.
Never once has someone come up to me, put there arm around me and said" hey bud, getting married was the smartest thing I have ever done, I urge you to do the same as soon as you can"...
How many times have I heard "dont EVER EVER fucking get married"? At least 1000 times.
Oh brother, you sound exactly like E-Kul/Radical Plato, we all know the ending to that story.
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Women are great housekeepers... when they get divorced, they keep your house.
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single life was very good and married life is very good.
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Women are great housekeepers... when they get divorced, they keep your house.
;D
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i love having a gf (dont live together) dont co-mingle funds, we see each other every so often, simple fun loving life.
great book on the topic - quick youtube vid
Often simplicity is the key to happiness.
It's ironic that a woman tries to 'explain' why men don't want marry. Right from the beginning she draws a weird conclusion by stating that most unmarried men also drop out from school and refuse to work ::) She needs a see of words, spoken in a passive-aggressive tone, before she sums up the most important reason: FREEDOM.
There are a ton of MGTOW vids, who are much more straightforward than this tampon soaking cunt..
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Thank you. I feel as though my life is complete now. What more is left?
Blue stars!
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Blue stars!
I'm not Vince Basile! :'(
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I'm not Vince Basile! :'(
That's right! You don't need to beg for them for over a decade, you deserve them right away
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I go to work and spend all my money on myself, hit the gym whenever I want, eat whenever and whatever I want, hit the sack and wake whenever I want, yank my goalie whenever I want, to as much porn as I want, go where I want when I want ...
With a wife or live-in-girlfriend all this would be no longer.
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I go to work and spend all my money on myself, hit the gym whenever I want, eat whenever and whatever I want, hit the sack and wake whenever I want, yank my goalie whenever I want, to as much porn as I want, go where I want when I want ...
With a wife or live-in-girlfriend all this would be no longer.
When long term happiness is the goal then it's best to avoid these two scenarios, unless you hit the lottery jackpot on the dating market
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When long term happiness is the goal then it's best to avoid these two scenarios, unless you hit the lottery jackpot on the dating market
Exactly.
Sooner or later, they all leave. And if by chance yours stays, you'll soon pray she does leave ... or she dies.
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I remember science articles who confirm that married people are happier. I find this hard to believe.
Not sure about happier, but they do better in many different aspects (according to this article).
http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/03/research-proves-no-1-social-justice-imperative-marriage
On the other hand, this guy on Facebook made a pretty good observation.
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I dont like living with a gf full time/all the time.
I love to have a gf, have her over, but not on the mortgage or see her full time etc
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Not sure about happier, but they do better in many different aspects (according to this article).
http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/03/research-proves-no-1-social-justice-imperative-marriage
On the other hand, this guy on Facebook made a pretty good observation.
There still are some good women out there, but they are very far and few between. It gets worse as time passes. Even if you did marry a "good" woman, the likelihood of her getting tired of you and divorcing you later on is still 50%. The financial ramifications of divorce are too high... and most prenups can be circumvented by a crafty divorce lawyer. It's just not worth the risk.
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a friend of mine lives about two hours away from his current gf and it's working great. they both have been married and divorced, have kids in HS and older, etc. and now he says they are getting married. why????? you've been there done that, done the kids thing, neither of them wants more kids, and you are having a great time seeing each other 50% or less of the time.
marriage in this case sounds like a perfect way to fuck up a great situation.
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I go to work and spend all my money on myself, hit the gym whenever I want, eat whenever and whatever I want, hit the sack and wake whenever I want, yank my goalie whenever I want, to as much porn as I want, go where I want when I want ...
With a wife or live-in-girlfriend all this would be no longer.
Do you date?
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Most unhappily married folks got married due to convenience, ignorance, some temporary pleasure that ended, got pregnant, sought money/materialism, peer pressure or just enjoyed the fornication before marriage and sought to preserve it.
Better to just get married for love, commitment and family.
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There still are some good women out there, but they are very far and few between. It gets worse as time passes. Even if you did marry a "good" woman, the likelihood of her getting tired of you and divorcing you later on is still 50%. The financial ramifications of divorce are too high... and most prenups can be circumvented by a crafty divorce lawyer. It's just not worth the risk.
The 40 + women is where the pickings are almost none, they all eventually drive you away with their bizarre behavior that only a cuckold would accept.
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Do you date?
Fortress has stated that he has a difficult time finding a women.
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Fortress has stated that he has a difficult time finding a women.
at some point his "routine" results in loneliness. I did his "routine" for 1.5 years, eventually you want a women in your life.
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a friend of mine lives about two hours away from his current gf and it's working great. they both have been married and divorced, have kids in HS and older, etc. and now he says they are getting married. why????? you've been there done that, done the kids thing, neither of them wants more kids, and you are having a great time seeing each other 50% or less of the time.
marriage in this case sounds like a perfect way to fuck up a great situation.
The pussy-trap is the destroyer of many men.
Some woman I work with just got married again for the 3rd time. She has 3 younger children. Only a white knight, beta man-jina would marry a woman with that kind of baggage.
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The 40 + women is where the pickings are almost none, they all eventually drive you away with their bizarre behavior that only a cuckold would accept.
Not for marriage, but for sex. Most 40+ women are fixed and have had their rug-rats already. When/if they give you any inclination of marriage or mental illness, you dump them.
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at some point his "routine" results in loneliness. I did his "routine" for 1.5 years, eventually you want a women in your life.
Of course. Many men who constantly bash marriage and relationships likely have a difficult time finding a women. It's a good rationalization.
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Vince Goodrum was a wife. He should share his thoughts about a marriage from a female point of view.
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Vince Goodrum was a wife. He should share his thoughts about a marriage from a female point of view.
I'm not sure there's a female point of view in most gay marriages.
They're both men, they just happen to prefer same sex relationships.
Perhaps if one of them is a male to female trans... I guess that would be different.
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Of course. Many men who constantly bash marriage and relationships likely have a difficult time finding a women. It's a good rationalization.
And many a man who say things like this are stuck in miserable relationships and envy those who aren't.
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And many a man who say things like this are stuck in miserable relationships and envy those who aren't.
You lonely bro?
Go out more and do stuff, you will meet the right lady/man eventually! Go for it stud, you can do it!
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Very insightful, she sounds like me..figures she is a forensic psychologist.
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Most unhappily married folks got married due to convenience, ignorance, some temporary pleasure that ended, got pregnant, sought money/materialism, peer pressure or just enjoyed the fornication before marriage and sought to preserve it.
Better to just get married for love, commitment and family.
Take a look on the average dating site, and you will discover a sea of single parents with serious intentions.
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Very insightful, she sounds like me..figures she is a forensic psychologist.
Great book. Should be essential reading for Western men.
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Great book. Should be essential reading for Western men.
Can't argue with that, but women should at least her out too. I know that a lot already realize what she is saying, but a lot don't!
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Possibly NSFW.
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Is anybody?
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Take a look on the average dating site, and you will discover a sea of single parents with serious intentions.
I have no doubt that's the case. And I'd wager it's those same single parents with serious intentions that are seeking relationship that were probably burned by a former spouse/baby mama/baby daddy that didn't engage in the failed relationship for love, commitment and family values.
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I have no doubt that's the case. And I'd wager it's those same single parents with serious intentions that are seeking relationship that were probably burned by a former spouse/baby mama/baby daddy that didn't engage in the failed relationship for love, commitment and family values.
Well, more than sometimes things don't workout between people on the long run, even when both have the best intentions. This is just the lack of chemistry for whatever reason. Starting a family is def no guarantee for a solid relationship. In fact, a lot of parents can't deal with the stress & responsibilities of a family, so they're better off without kids.
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Well, more than sometimes things don't workout between people on the long run, even when both have the best intentions. This is just the lack of chemistry for whatever reason. Starting a family is def no guarantee for a solid relationship. In fact, a lot of parents can't deal with the stress & responsibilities of a family, so they're better off without kids.
As you know I approach everything from a place of God first; although I didn't introduce that here.
SF1900 has definite expertise/education related to dysfunctional families and could speak to this topic in much more articulate, informed manner than I can.
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As you know I approach everything from a place of God first; although I didn't introduce that here.
SF1900 has definite expertise/education related to dysfunctional families and could speak to this topic in much more articulate, informed manner than I can.
I'm not religious myself, but I believe that a certain religion could function as a moral compass. This might* help making the right steps towards happiness and finding the 'right' life partner.
I'm familiar with SF's professional background, and I'm sure that he created a good understanding about the mechanisms of familiar relationships, but I believe that all of us can learn valuable lessons, simply by paying attention to what happens with others and esp ourselves under certain circumstances. Failed relationships hurt in the beginning, but they also provide great learning material to learn to better ourselves. Hope I'm not rambling here :D
* it just depends on the individual
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I'm not religious myself, but I believe that a certain religion could function as a moral compass. This might* help making the right steps towards happiness and finding the 'right' life partner.
I'm familiar with SF's professional background, and I'm sure that he created a good understanding about the mechanisms of familiar relationships, but I believe that all of us can learn valuable lessons, simply by paying attention to what happens with others and esp ourselves under certain circumstances. Failed relationships hurt in the beginning, but they also provide great learning material to learn to better ourselves. Hope I'm not rambling here :D
* it just depends on the individual
I agree with you....well said.
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I'm not religious myself, but I believe that a certain religion could function as a moral compass. This might* help making the right steps towards happiness and finding the 'right' life partner.
I'm familiar with SF's professional background, and I'm sure that he created a good understanding about the mechanisms of familiar relationships, but I believe that all of us can learn valuable lessons, simply by paying attention to what happens with others and esp ourselves under certain circumstances. Failed relationships hurt in the beginning, but they also provide great learning material to learn to better ourselves. Hope I'm not rambling here :D
* it just depends on the individual
A religion could function as a moral compass, but won't fix underlying problems, unless specifically addressed. This is why many therapists incorporate a religious worldview when doing therapy; they recognize that religion plays a part, but cannot account for issues that need to be addressed in other ways.
Learning valuable lessons are difficult, as we cannot see our own unconscious. This is why people continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.
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it's probably not bad if you love your wife.
something thyat is truly unhappiness is being a 9-5 working slave.
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Marriage these days is pointless though
In the old days it was because you where dependant on eachother in another way. Women where dependant on men for monetary income, men where dependant on women for householding and taking care of children.
These days all this is erased. We are not dependant on a family bond anymore. Machines do famile chores like washing, we drop premade dinners in the micro, and we drop the kids at kindergarden or school.
And the women are so called "independent". But in reality they are not independent. Women are not made to do the work men do. In most workforce areas(besides caretaking types of jobs) they are worthless leeches.
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A religion could function as a moral compass, but won't fix underlying problems, unless specifically addressed. This is why many therapists incorporate a religious worldview when doing therapy; they recognize that religion plays a part, but cannot account for issues that need to be addressed in other ways.
Learning valuable lessons are difficult, as we cannot see our own unconscious. This is why people continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.
Esp the bold part is interesting. I didn't knew that, but I makes sense in order to get a better understanding of someone's thinking and behavior.
Very true, a religion can't fix someone's problems. I think only awareness and the willingness to work on them can help.
The things we can learn from our mistakes are limited, which is why we're always a 'work in progress' (provided that there is any..)
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Esp the bold part is interesting. I didn't knew that, but I makes sense in order to get a better understanding of someone's thinking and behavior.
Very true, a religion can't fix someone's problems. I think only awareness and the willingness to work on them can help.
The things we can learn from our mistakes are limited, which is why we're always a 'work in progress' (provided that there is any..)
Many therapists will practice from the worldview of their clients; however, the client has to seek out a therapist who shares similar worldviews. On the other hand, a different worldview can make for interesting conversations.
A religion can "fix" someone's symptoms, i.e., they can help the overt problems and provide a moral compass. But a strictly religious worldview will not get to the underlying issue. As such, that is why some therapists practice from a religious perspective (integration of religion and therapy).
We can't see our own unconscious (similar to how a fish does not know they are swimming in water because they have been wading in water for so long). This makes it difficult to see how we are adding to the problem.
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If anyone wants to read about why marriages fail, read John Gottman, PhD. Gottman is pretty much the Father of Marriage and Family Therapy.
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no. if you're lucky you get a decent amount of moments of joy interspersed with the shitty stuff but mainly with the grind of just being alive.
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jack good post man. i was pretty niave when i got married. i fell for the "princess" wedding, jesus boy doing our vows (im an atheist- still pissed to this day we paid thAt fucker), annoying mother in law with her formal bullshit, 6 and 6 bridemaids and groosman, very old fashion, etc. etc. at the time, i just didnt care. kinda like, oh well sure whatever. as im 30s now, my friends getting married are doing destination weddings, fun stuff with small group of friends, etc. looks so fun, so i am kinda still pissed we did the stupid dog and poney show. that seems like the shit that goes on when you are in your twenties getting married. so my advice, wait till your an adult like age 30 and up. 25 is no adult.
financially speaking, marriage was great for us. my savings was shit, and my wife earns double what i earn. we were able to buy a house, and move up in investments, etc. also, like you said, my wife is very thrifty amd always looks for the best deal. friends we have in their thirties who are marrying are still doing the townhouse or rental thing. so combining assets really can propel you forward much faster.
now, this might not be important to many people. its really not to me. i argue alot about what we buy because id be fine with a shack in the woods. that always seems to be where people argue, is the life style. people have expectations. my expectation was big savings, retire early and small modest home and never worry about money. wife loves work, and wants big houses, nice things. thats our one main wedge, which sucks.
honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
Theres some good points too your post the part I agree on is the financial gains moving you forward faster IF your wife has a good career etc, the issue is for a lot of men is that if they are the dominant earner in the marriage and gathers most if not all the asserts IF (and usually) when things turn bad...well we all know the outcome...
Theres a tired but true old saying...those that play together...stay together, most of us as men are animals bye nature...when we want someone new...we hunt them and usually stop @ nothing until we get them...the Thrill of the case...the smell of fresh meat and all that crap.
Then after the chase is over and as time moves bye we slowly but surely lose that thrill it’s no longer a challenge, the thrill, excitement etc add kids too the mix and everything that goes with it, we start too long for a new hunt.
I’m not saying all of us think like this but IMO MOST of us think like this...sooner or later...the thirst wins...and in return you as a man LOSE...your asserts...your kids...nearly everything.
For those men out there that are SMART...they have a wife that has a actual career earns good money helps generate the asserts and make sure they do as much together as possible it’s that very thing that most of us lose sight of...then you pay, it all boils down too making smart decisions BEFORE the fact ticking the right boxes BEFORE the fact...unfortunately for most us men...it’s the wrong head ticking those boxes.
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Marriage these days is pointless though
In the old days it was because you where dependant on eachother in another way. Women where dependant on men for monetary income, men where dependant on women for householding and taking care of children.
These days all this is erased. We are not dependant on a family bond anymore. Machines do famile chores like washing, we drop premade dinners in the micro, and we drop the kids at kindergarden or school.
And the women are so called "independent". But in reality they are not independent. Women are not made to do the work men do. In most workforce areas(besides caretaking types of jobs) they are worthless leeches.
Men can be totally self sufficient, I can do everything now myself - the only thing I need a female for is to fuck them. Even the most independent women still needs help from a man. So I agree with you.
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I agree with you....well said.
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Men can be totally self sufficient, I can do everything now myself - the only thing I need a female for is to fuck them. Even the most independent women still needs help from a man. So I agree with you.
Men built the world. Women need men for their survival. Most women would never admit this. Women are only good for sex, not much else. There are still a few good ones out there, but they becoming harder to find as time passes.
Women today are totally out of control. Now you have hordes of women coming out of the woodwork claiming these rich men harassed and/or assaulted them. Notice how it's only a bad thing when an ugly guy does it, but it would be no issue if an attractive guy came on to them.
DO NOT marry them. Marriage is financial arrangement/contract and is a horrible deal for men (unless she makes more money than you, which is usually not the case). The divorce laws are all geared in the woman's favor. The financial ramifications are too risky.
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Men built the world. Women need men for their survival. Most women would never admit this. Women are only good for sex, not much else. There are still a few good ones out there, but they becoming harder to find as time passes.
Women today are totally out of control. Now you have hordes of women coming out of the woodwork claiming these rich men harassed and/or assaulted them. Notice how it's only a bad thing when an ugly guy does it, but it would be no issue if an attractive guy came on to them.
DO NOT marry them. Marriage is financial arrangement/contract and is a horrible deal for men (unless she makes more money than you, which is usually not the case). The divorce laws are all geared in the woman's favor. The financial ramifications are too risky.
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jack good post man. i was pretty niave when i got married. i fell for the "princess" wedding, jesus boy doing our vows (im an atheist- still pissed to this day we paid thAt fucker), annoying mother in law with her formal bullshit, 6 and 6 bridemaids and groosman, very old fashion, etc. etc. at the time, i just didnt care. kinda like, oh well sure whatever. as im 30s now, my friends getting married are doing destination weddings, fun stuff with small group of friends, etc. looks so fun, so i am kinda still pissed we did the stupid dog and poney show. that seems like the shit that goes on when you are in your twenties getting married. so my advice, wait till your an adult like age 30 and up. 25 is no adult.
financially speaking, marriage was great for us. my savings was shit, and my wife earns double what i earn. we were able to buy a house, and move up in investments, etc. also, like you said, my wife is very thrifty amd always looks for the best deal. friends we have in their thirties who are marrying are still doing the townhouse or rental thing. so combining assets really can propel you forward much faster.
now, this might not be important to many people. its really not to me. i argue alot about what we buy because id be fine with a shack in the woods. that always seems to be where people argue, is the life style. people have expectations. my expectation was big savings, retire early and small modest home and never worry about money. wife loves work, and wants big houses, nice things. thats our one main wedge, which sucks.
honestly, i was depressed single (wasnt getting laid bcause i wasnt confident (this was before tindr, which
ooks fun and easy) was lonely, had no one to watch dogs when i traveled). i also get depressed being married. so much hot asss out there, and you always thinkg " wow i bet that girl really has it all...nice person, loving, hot, etc...but you never really know. grass is always greeener. its a mental illness which i have. im never satisfied. i do KNOW that if i was single, id still be miserable though. i think im better off married honestly. like others said, working on happiness is the hard part and thats what im goin focus on for 2017. any tips are welcom!
Unfortunately for you, this is not a mental illness and not a question of grass is greener.
Other younger generation girls are hotter than any previous generation. I have noticed this and many of my friends share the same view. Sometimes you look at a girl and think ok, she's very hot, a 9, possibly a 9.5 but I bet that's all there is to her....just looks, then you get to know her and find out she's very intelligent, affectionate, loyal, caring, funny with tons of charisma and has zero gagging reflexes and loves teh cock more than Jesus loves us and you think to your self as she's slobbering snot and spit all over your cock...wow, my wife really sucks and how did I get blind sided for so many years.
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Unfortunately for you, this is not a mental illness and not a question of grass is greener.
Other younger generation girls are hotter than any previous generation. I have noticed this and many of my friends share the same view. Sometimes you look at a girl and think ok, she's very hot, a 9, possibly a 9.5 but I bet that's all there is to her....just looks, then you get to know her and find out she's very intelligent, affectionate, loyal, caring, funny with tons of charisma and has zero gagging reflexes and loves teh cock more than Jesus loves us and you think to your self as she's slobbering snot and spit all over your cock...wow, my wife really sucks and how did I get blind sided for so many years.
Dude's wife makes a ton more than him. She is the go getter, the bread winner. She runs things, and possibly feels emasculated. So of course the grass is greener on the other side. Where he can be the man he wants to be.