he's just angry at God for being born a crip.
he's just angry at God for being born a crip.
God may not have created the universe and Stephen Hawking may be the smartest person in the world but how do you take a guy seriously when he can't even have his teeth cleaned properly. They are fucking filthy. He wears suits and ties so he obviously gives a fuck ::)He has the means to do it so doesn't that mean he doesn't give a fuck ???
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he's just angry at God:Dfor being born a crip.
Who is this man? besides a retard
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for those of you who didn't get the memo ;)
God is a future event. It's a chicken and egg argument, and serves no purpose. 8)
God is a story in a book.
A story in a book
A puppet on a string
Every thing you hope he's not
Is each and every thing
You must remember to forget
What hasn't even happened yet 8)
God may not have created the universe and Stephen Hawking may be the smartest person in the world but how do you take a guy seriously when he can't even have his teeth cleaned properly. They are fucking filthy. He wears suit and tie so he obviously gives a fuck ::)
Ok, I believe we were probably an accident and such, but why would Evolution create a brain?
Ok, I believe we were probably an accident and such, but why would Evolution create a brain?
EDIT: A mind, more specifically. Emotions hinder survival, no?
Ok, I believe we were probably an accident and such, but why would Evolution create a brain?
EDIT: A mind, more specifically. Emotions hinder survival, no?
Given the precise laws of physics and their quantifiable values, with an infinite amount of time, ANYTHING is possible. The evolution of the brain, and then the emergence of consciousness and intelligence, were INEVITABLE.
When everything is taken from us, we do resort back to strict survival of the fittest....Been proven many times in survival situationsExcept for people who Drive Toyota Priuses..apparently in emergencies, these drivers confuse the gas pedal for the brake pedal, and at the same time have time enough to call 911, just before they crash and die...
Given that a group of cells known as a "human" can have consciousness, it's not a stretch that a universe can become self aware by forming a god mind through that same process.
Some might claim thats inevitable. 8)
Didn't his nurse leave him out in the sun and he got terribly sunburned a few years ago?
Except for people who Drive Toyota Priuses..apparently in emergencies, these drivers confuse the gas pedal for the brake pedal, and at the same time have time enough to call 911, just before they crash and die...
Hmmm, maybe that is Dawinism...
That's fuckin funny if true.
My answer to this attention whore, before saying (he has no proof) that God didnt create the Universe, let the humanity have a contact with the extra terristrial life and see what they have to say about God.Apparently, alien abductees have "claimed" to asked them about God, and the aliens do say that God exist...that is right before they stick a anal probe up the men's asses and artificially inseminate the women...I reckon, they just wanted to calm the "abductee's" nerves a bit...if they told them otherwise, it would have been a bad ride back from Zeta Reticuli
Except for people who Drive Toyota Priuses..apparently in emergencies, these drivers confuse the gas pedal for the brake pedal, and at the same time have time enough to call 911, just before they crash and die...
Hmmm, maybe that is Dawinism...
Given that a group of cells known as a "human" can have consciousness, it's not a stretch that a universe can become self aware by forming a god mind through that same process.
Some might claim thats inevitable. 8)
Except for people who Drive Toyota Priuses..apparently in emergencies, these drivers confuse the gas pedal for the brake pedal, and at the same time have time enough to call 911, just before they crash and die...
Hmmm, maybe that is Dawinism...
Apparently, alien abductees have "claimed" to asked them about God, and the aliens do say that God exist...that is right before they stick a anal probe up the men's asses
all these environmentalists driving the Prius either dont know or dont care that the meer manufacturing of the car (from the mining of ore for its batteries, and refining, plus shipping the ore around the world in big ships for refining ) causes more harm to the environment than owning a gas guzzling Range Rover HSE. that british auto show thats always has the exotic cars on it exposed this.
all these environmentalists driving the Prius either dont know or dont care that the meer manufacturing of the car (from the mining of ore for its batteries, and refining, plus shipping the ore around the world in big ships for refining ) causes more harm to the environment than owning a gas guzzling Range Rover HSE. that british auto show thats always has the exotic cars on it exposed this.Top Gear...was that it...
Funny how these liberal pussies believe this al gore bullshitGore is making a ton of money..he's raping the industry, funny and odd, the greedy pig is...and tell me, why is he getting a Divorce..is it for the Same thing Clinton Did...
Top Gear...was that it...
haven't seen it, but Top Gear does show some good shit, and sometimes sensationalizes other things.
I think the main thing is less reliance on oil, eventually the hybrids will give way to full electric or Mag-Lev type vehicles, right now we are seeing a transition from the archiac "combustion engine", it just coincides with "enviromentalism". Unfortunately, there is cost for everything, unless there is more money spent on magnetism, anti-gravity, etc...(Coral Castle, anyone?)
Gore is making a ton of money..he's raping the industry, funny and odd, the greedy pig is...and tell me, why is he getting a Divorce..is it for the Same thing Clinton Did...
old saltine cracker bones is just spouting a hypothesis........it would be IMPOSSIBLE for him to know who created the universe, because we know very little about the universe, if you havent checked, we can berely get further out then our own moon
haha, very true.....when the assholes can tell me a couple of days in advance what the weather will actually be, I'll start listening.
Didn't his nurse leave him out in the sun and he got terribly sunburned a few years ago?
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Oh brother-- lots of metaphysical experts and arm chair physicists in this thread who saw the Matrix Trilogy one too many times.
Hawking once climbed a mountain not using his arms or legs.....
I heard he got down the same way ;D
he's just angry at God for being born a crip.
So ancient testimony like a bible or koran is better?
Hawking is a brilliant physicist, his books should be read by everyone, a brief history of time is more important then anything written in the bible.
::)Eff You!! I just watched Matrix Revolutions yesterday...unfortunatel y, I've remembered each line, word for word...it's real man, it's real!!!
Oh brother-- lots of metaphysical experts and arm chair physicists in this thread who saw the Matrix Trilogy one too many times.
Stephen Hawking's modified string theory contains imaginary numbers which are completely self-serving and eliminate the need for a singular creation event. Replace the imaginary numbers with real numbers and the problem of needing a singular creation event "magically" reappears.
When a country develops the first centralized electromagnetic weapon we are all fucked....Apparently that's how them Greys abduct people from their cars, they knock out cars electricity, except it has no effect on diesel engines, something about their configuration. So, if ya want to bear aliens, drive a diesel...
Imaginary numbers are still viewed today as being absurd by some people, particularly non mathematicians.
A few hundred years ago, negative numbers were also deemed absurd, that they had no real purpose or practical use.
Stephen will one day prove to all the handicaps that Johnny5 is GOD and creature of the universe
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Apparently that's how them Greys abduct people from their cars, they knock out cars electricity, except it has no effect on diesel engines, something about their configuration. So, if ya want to bear aliens, drive a diesel...
Isn't Hawking's nurse a hot blonde...I wonder if he got a good blow job, would he scream, "Oh God!!"
if so, then he just disproved his own theory...you don't call on something that doesn't exist, right?
he's just angry at God for being born a crip.:D dmn.
:D dmn.
Stephen Hawking's modified string theory contains imaginary numbers which are completely self-serving and eliminate the need for a singular creation event. Replace the imaginary numbers with real numbers and the problem of needing a singular creation event "magically" reappears.
he wasn't born a cripI know. Still damn tho.
I know. Still damn tho.
Not true....I call on something that doesn't exist every day...."Oh let the black communities fix themselves and not rely on tax dollars"Get rid of the Devil's Henchmen, Jesse and Al, and they will, unfortunately in the black community it's taboo to go against a Reverend or someone reppin the black church or part of the civil rights era...the thinking is that they deserve the utmost respect, even when they are wrong and leading you into the flames of ignorance and ineptitude.
Get rid of the Devil's Henchmen, Jesse and Al, and they will, unfortunately in the black community it's taboo to go against a Reverend or someone reppin the black church or part of the civil rights era...the thinking is that they deserve the utmost respect, even when they are wrong and leading you into the flames of ignorance and ineptitude.
I want to know, why does everything work to such mathmatical precision, a system of checks and balances, is that all accident? How can it be explained that hardwork gets results, and is more self fulfilling? Why is there predator-prey relationship, which keeps a equilibrium in nature?
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I want to know, why does everything work to such mathmatical precision, a system of checks and balances, is that all accident? How can it be explained that hardwork gets results, and is more self fulfilling? Why is there predator-prey relationship, which keeps a equilibrium in nature?
Why are they so "imaginary?"
There's nothing more imaginary about them then there is about the square root of two.
Singularities don't arise because of the real number line. To "get a solution" in general relativity, you need to contract a vector from the cotangent space in order to map the tangent space to the real numbers.
Hell, quantum mechanics requires the use of complex numbers and even maps directly to the complex plane instead of the real numbers....which doesn't matter because you still have to map to those complex numbers with the dual space....giving real number solutions.
Allowing the space-time manifold to include the complex plane isn't any kind of novel idea that Hawking has and it certainly isn't anything new in any form of string theory. Given the right scenarios, you can replace "imaginary numbers" with real numbers and cause the mathematics to blow up at every point of space-time, and vice versa.
What the hell does it even mean for imaginary numbers to be "self serving?"
You know exactly what I said so go ahead and replace "self serving" with whatever words you feel more comfortable with. Regardless, nothing changes about what I simply stated.
Damn great post....People are smart, why can't they see the same things as you?Because they notice, but they either don't want to say, too lazy, or just like the Matrix, would prefer the lie than the reality, just like religion...
If there wasn't, there wouldn't be nature.I get it, but it seems that everything has purpose, even if, something may evolve to extremes like Smilodon, who was a apex predator that preyed on megafauna, once megafauna died out (apparently due to humans, according to one theory), they couldn't adapt or evolve quick enough, so no Smilodon...
Mathematics is just a language that is built from as few assumptions as possible, where every new identity has to be "proven" and other mathematicians win prize and praise for proving ideas wrong, and is continually devoted to removing ambiguities.
Any language developed under the same pretense would do the same thing.
Because they notice, but they either don't want to say, too lazy, or just like the Matrix, would prefer the lie than the reality, just like religion...I get it, but it seems that everything has purpose, even if, something may evolve to extremes like Smilodon, who was a apex predator that preyed on megafauna, once megafauna died out (apparently due to humans, according to one theory), they couldn't adapt or evolve quick enough, so no Smilodon...
Or the fact that the lowly roach can survive millions of yrs, do to it's adaptability....purpose, what purpose does one serve, and is that the ultimate goal, in reality, is that truly the embodiment of God, purpose?
if something exists, even if there is no life at all, and just an empty universe filled with vibrating strings, 11 dimensions, and a bunch of mass-energy.... there is still an absolute necessity for the creator.Who created the creator ???
"stephen hawking", lmao..
Who created the creator ???the creator of course
Who created the creator ???
the creator of course
And who created that creator? Thus, we involve ourselves in an infinite regress.nope. apparently, you dont understand the essence of God.
nope. apparently, you dont understand the essence of God.
unless you understand his eternal presence and acknowledge the necessity for an ultimate creator, you dont have the ability to speak about him with any accuracy, because you lack the fundamental knowledge required to grasp his existence.
god is infinite, eternal, omnipotent. that is the definition. if God was not any one of those things, then he would not be God. so, God must be eternal, and also must exist, because it is in his very essence to be so.
god is infinite, eternal, omnipotent. that is the definition.
Definition by who ?
My buddy named his 4gb flash drive 'god' everytime he connects to one of my machines I get a popup saying 'god' is here
lol
So god has a limit - 4GB.
primitive by today's standards
god has become obsolete, my main drive is 1.5tb the backup is 1tb
haha, very true.....when the assholes can tell me a couple of days in advance what the weather will actually be, I'll start listening.
if hawkings is so smart...how come he doesnt know how to speak, or walk?
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if hawkings is so smart...how come he doesnt know how to speak, or walk?
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if hawkings is so smart...how come he doesnt know how to speak, or walk?He can figure out the wonders of the Universe, declare there is no God, yet can't figure a cure for his disease--could this be epic ownage by God? "Hey, you say I don't exist, huh? Well who put you in that wheel chair, yet gave you a brillant mind? You can't have everything, and I see you are not thankful...I was gonna "give" a cure...Now, since I "don't exist", you can just sit and sound like a Texas Instrument Speak n' Spell."
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He can figure out the wonders of the Universe, declare there is no God, yet can't figure a cure for his disease--could this be epic ownage by God? "Hey, you say I don't exist, huh? Well who put you in that wheel chair, yet gave you a brillant mind? You can't have everything, and I see you are not thankful...I was gonna "give" a cure...Now, since I "don't exist", you can just sit and sound like a Texas Instrument Speak n' Spell."
respect to the guy who posted the Sagan vid. I saw that a while ago; will still watch it every once in a while. He is missed!
funny but I dont think this man got a brilliant mind.
they have to startre-paving the highway near my house from the other end, the second they finish it................becaus e they cant make an asphalt composite that last for more then a couple years
haha, but yeah.................... ...................i'll buy their THEORIES lock and key about whats happening at the fringes of an infinite universe that we barely understand
stephen hawking can fuck himself........he should worrry about not drooling on himslef.
really, you dont
he held he Luscasian Chair of mathmatics at Cambridge for 30 years
What does it prove in general scheme of things? Nothing! being great at mathematics or being great at early age at mathematics proves nothing except of having the talent to mathematics.
Do you actually understand that he didn't prove that God didnt create Universe? The reality we observe 2+2=4 but who would say that somewhere else it doesn't?
Hell, we haven't even explored the furtherest depth of our oceans, let alone have better underwater vehicles than a submarine---which is the marine equivalent to a blimp.
i dont agree with his recent theory about god not creating the universe.............how the fuck would he know who created the universe......he doesnt have the information available to him to make a statement like that..........no humans do................we arent even sure who created the pyramids
like i said previously..............humans havent been able to get past our own moon............but arrogant assholes like stephen hawking are spouting off at the mouth trying to expedite global atheism.....its an agenda of the intellectual elite
but that being said, he is still a very smart man..........to claim otherwise is silly
He can figure out the wonders of the Universe, declare there is no God, yet can't figure a cure for his disease--could this be epic ownage by God? "Hey, you say I don't exist, huh? Well who put you in that wheel chair, yet gave you a brillant mind? You can't have everything, and I see you are not thankful...I was gonna "give" a cure...Now, since I "don't exist", you can just sit and sound like a Texas Instrument Speak n' Spell."
You might have dyslexia.....there's a difference between a research "physicist" and a research "physician."Ha, thanks for pointing that out, but there are some people whose expertise in other fields who are more on point than some doctor are...Especially when dealing with a doc whose ego is bigger than the Snooky ballon at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
Ha, thanks for pointing that out, but there are some people whose expertise in other fields who are more on point than some doctor are...Especially when dealing with a doc whose ego is bigger than the Snooky ballon at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
I think you meant to write "all" here.;) ;D
The question is : Who have better legs ? Arvilla or Hawkinglmmfao
yeah agree, how can he say for certainty theres no god?There is no proof of a god. The idea of a god and afterlife is just something made up by humans to take comfort in the idea of their own death. What is a "god" anyways? Something all knowing and creator of everything? Silly... Solid evidence shows that things come to by evolving.
yeah agree, how can he say for certainty theres no god?
Anyone that thinks science can answer questions of god is out the lunch. Science is a human invention relevant to humans. We can't see 1000 years into the future, we can't proove or disprove god. It's unknown to us. We can disprove a book or a belief, but it's near impossible to disprove god, At least through our limited human existance.
There is a creator - proof is that we're all here. Something created us. Something created gravity which started it all. Something pushed that button.
None of us can prove nor disprove exactly what this creator is - but the fact we're here is proof something created us.
I believe in a higher power, I believe that faith and prayer can change lives and heal and make a difference. I don't believe what a book says - I believe what I believe.
we can't proove or disprove god."You can not be called upon to prove or know a negative." Disagree with that and you take away your own logic and reason. :)
There is no proof of a god. The idea of a god and afterlife is just something made up by humans to take comfort in the idea of their own death. What is a "god" anyways? Something all knowing and creator of everything? Silly... Solid evidence shows that things come to by evolving.
There is a creator - proof is that we're all here. Something created us. Something created gravity which started it all. Something pushed that button.
None of us can prove nor disprove exactly what this creator is - but the fact we're here is proof something created us.
I believe in a higher power, I believe that faith and prayer can change lives and heal and make a difference. I don't believe what a book says - I believe what I believe.
i dont believe we have the necessary information, nor do we have the capacity to understand the motivations of a God...........
"You can not be called upon to prove or know a negative." Disagree with that and you take away your own logic and reason. :)
She shut that down real quick ;D and it's trueStill don't see your point. As I said you can't disprove god, nor can we proove his existance. It's a pointless argument that can and will go on forever. So you gotta assume your guess will work out for the best. To me it's an evolutionary advantage, to beleif in a supreme being so I'm gonna since afterall I'm only human.
Just use Russel's tea pot analogy
There is no proof of a god. The idea of a god and afterlife is just something made up by humans to take comfort in the idea of their own death. What is a "god" anyways? Something all knowing and creator of everything? Silly... Solid evidence shows that things come to by evolving.
Still don't see your point. As I said you can't disprove god, nor can we proove his existance. It's a pointless argument that can and will go on forever. So you gotta assume your guess will work out for the best. To me it's an evolutionary advantage, to beleif in a supreme being so I'm gonna since afterall I'm only human.
True. But this/these video's are pretty interesting(part 1 of 7)
I only hope I live to see the day in which people stop believing in silly superstitions.
thats a very good post
all i know is that its very silly for humans to try to wrap their heads around, and try to prove and disprove the nature and existence of a GOD-being...........i dont believe we have the necessary information, nor do we have the capacity to understand the motivations of a God...........
it would be like an ant trying to understand the complex emotional make-up of a human being.............an ant just does not have the hardware to make understanding a human even possible
how arrogant humans are though.........like they said before..............we have explored less then 1% of the earths oceans..........have not taveled further then our own moon.......and have been industrialized for like a hundred years...............but here were are saying that god does not exist, and that the universe is blah, blah, blah
its just funny................we are so stupid and arrogant
also a very good post.
we're so simple and arrogant it's laughable. We die of things like blood clots and slippery sidewalks... yet we are brash enough to believe we know the origins of the huge and massive universe(s).
We crap in diapers for 2 years, we marry the wrong people, we drink til we vomit, we spend decades in the wrong career... yet we feel we are wise enough to believe we "know" the universe came from this or that.
In 1000 years, scientists will totally just laugh at what we thought we knew in 2010. They'll see us like we see the caveman, given the amount of innovation and technology the world will see by then. Our thinking will be compared to animals... "They went BALD?" or "They ate the flesh of living creatures" or "They lived to be less than 200? WTF"
They will pity our shitty existence, and all the silly things we thought we knew. As will the people that come 1000 years after them.
What he is doing is trying to tempt God into saying, "Oh yes I did!", thereby proving he exists once and for all...kinda like Steven's invitation for a party to time travelers and they never showed up.
Sneaky guy that Steven Hawking. But what he doesn't realize, is that God knew that he was gonna say that...
Humans are stupid & arrogant enough to create God to explain the unexplained at the time , ' he ' wreaks of human arrogance , stupidity , frailty and petty jealousies and flaws which proves beyond a doubt it's a story with lowly human origins writtenI'd rather think beleif in god is humbleness not arrogance. It takes humbleness to believe there is something we don't quite get. Trying to say what that something is, starts all the arrogance. If you get what I mean. It takes a great deal of wisdom to say their is a god, and a great deal of selfish arrogance to say he thinks you are important.
again if God were real there would be no need for a belief in him or religion.
I'd rather think beleif in god is humbleness not arrogance. It takes humbleness to believe there is something we don't quite get. Trying to say what that something is, starts all the arrogance. If you get what I mean. It takes a great deal of wisdom to say their is a god, and a great deal of selfish arrogance to say he thinks you are important.
It's of the utmost arrogance to think that there is no god or creator.
The evidence is right in front of you. Look at the order of the universe and the incredible depth of human emotions. No other "animals" have such a range.
Religion is where the understanding of God gets messed up.
If there is no God, eternal soul or after life, what's the point of living? Just kill yourself now. You won't know the difference.
But yet, something is stopping you from offing yourself? What exactly is it?
And don't say inbred survival instinct. It's something greater than that.
It's of the utmost arrogance to think that there is no god or creator.
The evidence is right in front of you. Look at the order of the universe and the incredible depth of human emotions. No other "animals" have such a range.
Religion is where the understanding of God gets messed up.
If there is no God, eternal soul or after life, what's the point of living? Just kill yourself now. You won't know the difference.
But yet, something is stopping you from offing yourself? What exactly is it?
And don't say inbred survival instinct. It's something greater than that.
also a very good post.
we're so simple and arrogant it's laughable. We die of things like blood clots and slippery sidewalks... yet we are brash enough to believe we know the origins of the huge and massive universe(s).
We crap in diapers for 2 years, we marry the wrong people, we drink til we vomit, we spend decades in the wrong career... yet we feel we are wise enough to believe we "know" the universe came from this or that.
In 1000 years, scientists will totally just laugh at what we thought we knew in 2010. They'll see us like we see the caveman, given the amount of innovation and technology the world will see by then. Our thinking will be compared to animals... "They went BALD?" or "They ate the flesh of living creatures" or "They lived to be less than 200? WTF"
They will pity our shitty existence, and all the silly things we thought we knew. As will the people that come 1000 years after them.
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If there is no God, eternal soul or after life, what's the point of living?
I feel sorry for you
One of the reason is waking up every day to post on GB. :D :D 8) 8)
Being aware that you really have no purpose seems counterproductive to survival. Not to mention incredibly fucked up.Being in denial of the fact we have no purpose seems counterproductive to survival. Not to mention incredibly fucked up.
It's of the utmost arrogance to think that there is no god or creator.Their is no evidence, you just want to believe to calm yourself and lessen your anxiety, their isn't order in the universe, look closer. And WTF do you mean that no other animals have such a range, are you comparing the animals on this planet to the ones in the other galaxy you visited last night wile tripping on LSD. And what about those that do "OFF" themselves, something didn't stop them now did it. I think the thing that stops people from offing themselves is it is easier to go on living in pain than to face the unknown, only when the pain becomes unbearable do people off themselves. Better the devil you know.
The evidence is right in front of you. Look at the order of the universe and the incredible depth of human emotions. No other "animals" have such a range.
Religion is where the understanding of God gets messed up.
If there is no God, eternal soul or after life, what's the point of living? Just kill yourself now. You won't know the difference.
But yet, something is stopping you from offing yourself? What exactly is it?
And don't say inbred survival instinct. It's something greater than that.
Anyone that thinks science can answer questions of god is out the lunch. Science is a human invention relevant to humans. We can't see 1000 years into the future, we can't prove or disprove god. It's unknown to us. We can disprove a book or a belief, but it's near impossible to disprove god, At least through our limited human existence.Talk about contradictory, God is a human invention, just a belief, which, to quote you "We can disprove a book or a belief" And I think that science has a better chance answering questions about a hypothetical god than on-line philosophers and zealots.
There is a creator - proof is that we're all here. Something created us. Something created gravity which started it all. Something pushed that button.You poor sorry simpleton. What you believe is in thousands of books. You can have faith in the life process and not believe in a so called "Higher Power". Prayer is just wishful thinking believed by morons who cant rationally come to a conclusion. If you and I both pray for opposing things, how can both our prayers be answered. People who believe in prayer are afraid and unwilling to accept that life contains suffering, disease, sickness and obstacles that cant be overcome leading to death. Learn to feel and accept your humanness and you will no longer need to pray. Stop bothering God. If you were created by a god, don't you think it selfish to constantly bother him with prayer when he has already given you all you need to get through your life. Man up and stop relying on something other than yourself.
None of us can prove nor disprove exactly what this creator is - but the fact we're here is proof something created us.
I believe in a higher power, I believe that faith and prayer can change lives and heal and make a difference. I don't believe what a book says - I believe what I believe.
I walk under ladders all the time and never even think about it.
You could live a million earth years and that wouldn't happen. I've yet to meet a conscious human who would walk under a latter or open an umbrella in house without batting an eye.
if hawkings is so smart...how come he doesnt know how to speak, or walk?You assume that speaking and walking are necessary to living a productive happy life. Strange how such a disabled man can rise to such fame and acheivement without those abilities and yet you have been granted the ability to walk and speak and your post is the height of your god given powers. The god who created you must be quite a lowly one indeed.
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How do you know what an ants capacities are, have you experienced existence as an ant.
that's a very good post
all i know is that its very silly for humans to try to wrap their heads around, and try to prove and disprove the nature and existence of a GOD-being...........i dont believe we have the necessary information, nor do we have the capacity to understand the motivations of a God...........
it would be like an ant trying to understand the complex emotional make-up of a human being.............an ant just does not have the hardware to make understanding a human even possible
how arrogant humans are though.........like they said before..............we have explored less then 1% of the earths oceans..........have not traveled further then our own moon.......and have been industrialized for like a hundred years...............but here were are saying that god does not exist, and that the universe is blah, blah, blah
its just funny................we are so stupid and arrogant
Religions, for thousands of years having been claiming to understand how the universe exists, how the fuck would they know who created the universe. If billions of people can put forward such a retarded make believe theory of god, then why cant one eductaed man in the laws of physics propose his idea. His theories make a lot more sense than some retard claiming" Duh, maybe just God created the whole thing" To me people who believe in God are intellectually lazy, how easy is it to look at the complexity of the universe and spew out "It must be a god". This is the catch cry of the idiot who no longer wants to think about the deeper mystery of the universe so he can go eat lunch and then start a war.
i dint agree with his recent theory about god not creating the universe.............how the fuck would he know who created the universe......he doesn't have the information available to him to make a statement like that..........no humans do................we aren't even sure who created the pyramids
like i said previously.............. humans havent been able to get past our own moon............but arrogant assholes like stephen hawking are spouting off at the mouth trying to expedite global atheism.....its an agenda of the intellectual elite
but that being said, he is still a very smart man..........to claim otherwise is silly
You assume that speaking and walking are necessary to living a productive happy life. Strange how such a disabled man can rise to such fame and acheivement without those abilities and yet you have been granted the ability to walk and speak and your post is the height of your god given powers. The god who created you must be quite a lowly one indeed.
Who is this man? besides a retard
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To me people who believe in God are intellectually lazy
but it's near impossible to disprove god,
It's impossible to prove God exists.
You post a lot but tell it brief - does god exist or not?Of course god doesn't exist. God is just a nice idea for those who don't want to think about the inner working of the Universe. Stephen Hawking has devoted his life to physics and the learning of the cosmos, his theories would be far more believable than the millions of morons over the centuries who like to make up they gayest make believe stories about god and creation. I can understand those beliefs being accepted thousands of years ago because the human race had very little information about themselves and the cosmos. Now we have tons of great knowledge on ourselves and the cosmos, it's time to kick GOD to the kerb and stand up and be counted. GOD doesn't exist, and someday the human race will know their purpose and the origins of existence. Until that day my friends, eat plenty of good quality protein and train hard.
If there is no God, eternal soul or after life, what's the point of living? Just kill yourself now. You won't know the difference.
Of course god doesn't exist. God is just a nice idea for those who don't want to think about the inner working of the Universe. Stephen Hawking has devoted his life to physics and the learning of the cosmos, his theories would be far more believable than the millions of morons over the centuries who like to make up they gayest make believe stories about god and creation. I can understand those beliefs being accepted thousands of years ago because the human race had very little information about themselves and the cosmos. Now we have tons of great knowledge on ourselves and the cosmos, it's time to kick GOD to the kerb and stand up and be counted. GOD doesn't exist, and someday the human race will know their purpose and the origins of existence. Until that day my friends, eat plenty of good quality protein and train hard.When Hawkings dies, that mere mortal, which will occur soon, I'll let you the adamant non believer try the following - extract Hawkings from the his afterlife and ask him about God. Unless its possible no one can tell that there is no afterlife which by itself proves that God exists. You must be new here but I'm not going to debate with you, I know your the following train of thoughts. >:(
How do you know what an ants capacities are, have you experienced existence as an ant.
What animal has achieved immortality? What animal is the most warlike? What animal has the greatest supercity on the planet? Not man but ants. They are the real success story. It is only their tiny size and our vanity that allows us to hold onto the myth of our supremacy. Ants rule the planet. They are found in more habitats from far northern Finland to the sweltering tropics. The largest colony known of these insects is in Japan, where 306 million ants, with 1 million queens, in 45,000 colonies spread over 270 hectares. The fiercest warriors on earth are the slave maker ants. Other ants have barracks and sentry posts to protect themselves against surprise attack.
Perhaps it is you that is arrogant for assuming to know what an ant knows - it is not arrogance to suggest that god doesn't exist, just a factual statement- Wether or not god exists is irrelevant, one could simply live their life and never hear of the concept of god and still live a healthy and productive life. Even if a god did exist, it is not important.
your arguing two different things...........are ants amazing in thier pre-programmed social strata.....yes?Someone needs to soothe themselves by sucking on mums tit! Sorry, I didn't realise you were an expert on Ants! The fact you consider humans intellectual is fascinating, I am often amazed that we search for intelligent life elsewhere, as there appears to be very little of it here on earth, and even less so in this forum. Ants at least have developed an efficient system for living relatively peacefully in more environments than humans. If humans ever pull of an effecient way of living together in peace then I will consider them intelligent. Until then, we are nothing but unevolved bacteria. By the way, I was not arguing that ants have esssoterric metaphysical thoughts and revelations, only that you cannot know what it is like to experience life as an ant, therefore unable to suggest that ants couldn't understand human behaviour.
do ants have "intellect" in human terms................no. ..............they are like robots
your a fucking moron...............no one would argue that ants are amazing and that their efficiency, subdivisions, and orginization is nothing short of amazing
but ants are ROBOTS for all intents and purposes...............t hey have no higher reasoning, self-awareness, or emotions
function by a rigid class system and pheromones
but for you to say "you dont understand them MAN, maybe they do have complex emotions"....................NO, you are a fuckign idiot................... .ants function like robots function, their is a collective hive intelligence, and an intrinsically born infoirmation about what their job in life is
but your making a fool of yourself arguing that ants are having esssoterric metaphysical thoughts and revelations, thay dont have the capaticy and barely have a bran
fucking MORON...... ::) ::) ::)
When Hawkings dies, that mere mortal, which will occur soon, I'll let you the adamant non believer try the following - extract Hawkings from the his afterlife and ask him about God. Unless its possible no one can tell that there is no afterlife which by itself proves that God exists. You must be new here but I'm not going to debate with you, I know your the following train of thoughts. >:(You seem to have a lot of pre conceived ideas, what makes you think you meet god in the afterlife, what happens after death is unknown to the living. And how you came to the conclusion that because we cant bring people back from the afterlife proves Gods existence, well, how can you argue with that non logic. that's absurd. I just realised that this response was a joke, because no serious individual could post such a ludicrous statement. I get it now, thanks for the laugh
You seem to have a lot of pre conceived ideas, what makes you think you meet god in the afterlife, what happens after death is unknown to the living. And how you came to the conclusion that because we cant bring people back from the afterlife proves Gods existence, well, how can you argue with that non logic. that's absurd. I just realised that this response was a joke, because no serious individual could post such a ludicrous statement. I get it now, thanks for the laughDoes afterlife exist? You don't know for sure, right? But you know for sure that God doens't exist!
Someone needs to soothe themselves by sucking on mums tit! Sorry, I didn't realise you were an expert on Ants! The fact you consider humans intellectual is fascinating, I am often amazed that we search for intelligent life elsewhere, as there appears to be very little of it here on earth, and even less so in this forum. Ants at least have developed an efficient system for living relatively peacefully in more environments than humans. If humans ever pull of an effecient way of living together in peace then I will consider them intelligent. Until then, we are nothing but unevolved bacteria. By the way, I was not arguing that ants have esssoterric metaphysical thoughts and revelations, only that you cannot k
now what it is like to experience life as an ant, therefore unable to suggest that ants couldn't understand human behaviour.
you just look like a fucking idiot, like really, you sound like a child
Someone needs to soothe themselves by sucking on mums tit! Sorry, I didn't realise you were an expert on Ants! The fact you consider humans intellectual is fascinating, I am often amazed that we search for intelligent life elsewhere, as there appears to be very little of it here on earth, and even less so in this forum. Ants at least have developed an efficient system for living relatively peacefully in more environments than humans. If humans ever pull of an effecient way of living together in peace then I will consider them intelligent. Until then, we are nothing but unevolved bacteria. By the way, I was not arguing that ants have esssoterric metaphysical thoughts and revelations, only that you cannot know what it is like to experience life as an ant, therefore unable to suggest that ants couldn't understand human behaviour.
Animals develop a balance with their natural surroundings and thrive on ingrained instincts and behavioural patterns. The more successful and resilient a species is, the more of it is found in more places. But they live for the sake of surviving long enough to reproduce, to make sure the species as a whole perpetuates. When they can't cope with the environmental conditions, they die out.
Your saying ants live "peacefully" seems to imply that they choose a higher path morally / conceptually, out of the many choices they have, which is not true. They devote all their energy to doing whatever is needed to perpetuate their population. They are just as territorial as other insects or animals, and can be just as destructive in their own ways. They are not noble nor are they capable of conceptual ways of thinking.
Humans are animals biologically, but also much more than that. Our way of surviving is by manipulating the natural resources around us to further our cause and way / standard of living. Yes, we make tons of mistakes and will keep doing so, but that doesn't negate any of our achievements, from our understanding of all that we know so far to everything we've created, be it good or bad.
Technologically, we are in the adolescent stage of development, which is why things are so unstable. That doesn't mean that we aren't capable of improving. You can't look at a snapshot of a process (that evolves over millions of years) in a very early stage and conclude that the conditions at the time of observation will remain unchanged.
Does afterlife exist? You don't know for sure, right? But you know for sure that God doens't exist!
We don't know if Dragon's exists doesn't mean they do. the absence of proof doesn't enhance the possibility.Your post would have looked smarter if you posted like this - Do dragons exist in an afterlife? Yes, no? If yes I kill myself
Your post would have looked smarter if you posted like this - Do dragons exist in an afterlife? Yes, no? If yes I kill myself
lol
the point stands there is no proof of dragons but no one has disproved them either so according to your rational they must exist until proven fake
and don't kill yourself God tends to frown on that
When they can't cope with the environmental conditions, they die out.As I stated about Smilodon (Saber Tooth Cat) and the disappearance of its megafauna prey.
We don't know if Dragon's exists doesn't mean they do. the absence of proof doesn't enhance the possibility.Dragons=dinosaurs
I hope my guardian angel is Derek Anthony when he passes away :D :D
I hope my guardian angel is Derek Anthony when he passes away :D :DIt might get awkward when he brings the ghost of old queens back to your place or watches you shower.
Dudes...
I've already answered all your questions about the future event known as "God." Please see pages 1-2.
End of thread. 8)
bay likey!! :P
It might get awkward when he brings the ghost of old queens back to your place or watches you shower.
I thought Bay liked the shorter guys? I'm only 5'5" I am scared :-\ :-\ :'( :'(
Dudes...A summary please untill I'm coming for beer
I've already answered all your questions about the future event known as "God." Please see pages 1-2.
End of thread. 8)
Hi mattc, the steroid user.
What does dianabol feel like? Do you recommend it as a training supplement?
Dragons=dinosaurs
Dragons are like God another fanciful idea written about by ignorant men , unlike God or Dragons we have proof of dinosaursOnly a moron would equate God with dragon. Dragon is more like a symbol, in China for example and the Bear is the symbol of Russia etc
Hahaha, Epic Fail and a logical fallacy. I love when theists say this. You can say that about anything and get away with it. Oh brother. It takes the burden of proof of the theist ::) ::) It is such a cop out to avoid a logical and rational debate.first of all, no matter what argument you try to make it will always contain a logical fallacy. unless what your trying to prove is circular in logic, then it will inevitabely contain fallacy. both deduction and induction are unfit methods for finding certain truth.
Dragons are like God another fanciful idea written about by ignorant men , unlike God or Dragons we have proof of dinosaurshahah.. ignorant men write about God.. yes, excluding the majority of the most brilliant minds to have ever lived
Dragons are like God another fanciful idea written about by ignorant men , unlike God or Dragons we have proof of dinosaurs
I think the foundations of many athiests' belief systems is Arnold's 1980 Olympia win.
If there was a God, how could he allow such an injustice?
Only a moron would equate God with dragon. Dragon is more like a symbol, in China for example and the Bear is the symbol of Russia etc
How do you know this ???
God created this physical world in order for it to spring life, and to give that blessing of life to all the inhabitants that would evolve out of his universe. .
hahah.. ignorant men write about God.. yes, excluding the majority of the most brilliant minds to have ever lived
Both are stories in a book written by men , you can't escape that.
How do you know this ???
How do you know this ???
if you dont believe in a GOD...then the only thing left to believe in is MAN. i'll pass on that.
so because something can be explained mechanically, it no longer has a need for God?
You missed the point , at first God was a story passed from generation to generation , he was an explanation for the natural word , earthquakes , lightening , thunder , death , disease , etc , these people were ignorant as to the reasons for these natural occurrences
He doesn't ??? ??? Its arrogant that he thinks he KNOWS God created the universe.its not arrogant, its common sense, once you dissect reality.
I wonder what "God" thinks about his drug addiction ??? ???
if you dont believe in a GOD...then the only thing left to believe in is MAN. i'll pass on that.
According to modern physics, the Universe appears to be 'uncaused'.what do you call the big bang, yngiwe? dont be a damn fool
what do you call the big bang, yngiwe? dont be a damn fool
i believe in science
God does not create arbitrary rules, what we should and shoudl not do, based on no moral logic. the things which god does not want us to do are the things that hurt others.
How do you know this ???
How do you know this ???
You seem to forget what I posted on the Religion forum. Quantum fluctuations pre-dated the big bang. "Pre-dated' isn't the correct phrase but I'm working as I type this.
There is no such thing as 'nothing'.
Don't be foolish tbombz.
How's it goin' btw?
How do you know this ???well, i dont. but i can only assume that god would be logical in his assessment of moral values. he is omnipotent, infinite, eternal, and perfect after all.
Che, do you think God approves of his meth addiction? :( :(
Of course he does.oh no, god wants me to be a morally virtous person. while i have no fear of telling people that morals are real and god wants you to have them, and while i do try to be a good person, i at times do bad things, knowing they are bad, and knowing god dissapproves. knowing god doesnt necessarily mean you are anything like god. i dont believe in the bible or the devil, but just for referance' sake, the devil knew god, believed in god, and knew the morals god supported. but that didnt make the devil a good person.
'' Those people who know so well what God wants them to do, I notice it always coincides with their own desires''
its going great! school just started this last week, and ive begun working on my major. i have social psych, neuroscience, perosnal adjustment(a branch of psych), political theory, and piano. piano is awesome 8) how bout you??
God may not have created the universe and Stephen Hawking may be the smartest person in the world but how do you take a guy seriously when he can't even have his teeth cleaned properly. They are fucking filthy. He wears suit and tie so he obviously gives a fuck ::)
he's just angry at God for being born a crip.
someone should put him out of his misery. it shows that God didn't pay attention to him enough when he was conceived....ahhahahahah ah
the devil knew god, believed in god, and knew the morals god supported..WTF ,Tbombz ;D
No shit.
What 's next ?
Stephen Hawking: My penis doesn't work ::)
the guy is more brilliant than all of us put together....give him props
My answer to this attention whore, before saying (he has no proof) that God didnt create the Universe, let the humanity have a contact with the extra terristrial life and see what they have to say about God.
Hawking once stole third on Mike Piazza.
::)
Oh brother-- lots of metaphysical experts and arm chair physicists in this thread who saw the Matrix Trilogy one too many times.
so because something can be explained mechanically, it no longer has a need for God?
dont you understand that if anything is to exist it has to be able to be explained mechanically.. that is the rules, the physics of our universe.
of course everything can be broken down and epxlained. that in no way discredits God. you are the ignorant one.
sf- why would god care about drug addiction? i am hurting no one. your showing your ignorance once again by falling into the trap of thinking that the only possible god is the god touted by modern day catholics and christians. God does not create arbitrary rules, what we should and shoudl not do, based on no moral logic. the things which god does not want us to do are the things that hurt others.
so because something can be explained mechanically, it no longer has a need for God?
dont you understand that if anything is to exist it has to be able to be explained mechanically.. that is the rules, the physics of our universe.
of course everything can be broken down and epxlained. that in no way discredits God. you are the ignorant one.
i believe in science
Not true....I call on something that doesn't exist every day...."Oh let the black communities fix themselves and not rely on tax dollars"
if you dont believe in a GOD...then the only thing left to believe in is MAN. i'll pass on that.
They will say something like, "God has always been here. He is Eternal. He does not need a creator" Epic way to avoid a debate. Once someone says that, it is impossible to debate them. Bur arguing from that standpoint is a logical fallacy. I do not like that argument.
nope. apparently, you dont understand the essence of God.
unless you understand his eternal presence and acknowledge the necessity for an ultimate creator, you dont have the ability to speak about him with any accuracy, because you lack the fundamental knowledge required to grasp his existence.
god is infinite, eternal, omnipotent. that is the definition. if God was not any one of those things, then he would not be God. so, God must be eternal, and also must exist, because it is in his very essence to be so.
Oh shit, I almost crapped myself. Hawking brutally destroyed by Getbig. :)
Your fellow man has done much , much more for you than " God " has
i dont agree with his recent theory about god not creating the universe.............how the fuck would he know who created the universe......he doesnt have the information available to him to make a statement like that..........no humans do................we arent even sure who created the pyramids
like i said previously.............. humans havent been able to get past our own moon............but arrogant assholes like stephen hawking are spouting off at the mouth trying to expedite global atheism.....its an agenda of the intellectual elite
but that being said, he is still a very smart man..........to claim otherwise is silly
you saved your post by stating at the end that anyone who debates the smartness of Stephen Hawkins is silly....He has much more evidence to prove there is no God than you have to prove there is....show us your proof?
believing in god is like believing you can attain a pro card naturally
There is no proof of a god. The idea of a god and afterlife is just something made up by humans to take comfort in the idea of their own death. What is a "god" anyways? Something all knowing and creator of everything? Silly... Solid evidence shows that things come to by evolving.
Both are stories in a book written by men , you can't escape that.
You missed the point , at first God was a story passed from generation to generation , he was an explanation for the natural word , earthquakes , lightening , thunder , death , disease , etc , these people were ignorant as to the reasons for these natural occurrences
God was needed to explain the unexplained , now we know why things happen and they aren't supernatural , no in that context , NO we don't need ' God '
and again you're missing the point , God was the explanation for these things until we learned the natural explanation.
::)
Any god that could be "proved" would not, by deffinition, be God. Hope that helps.
gods never show up
HAHAHA, the holy monks are at it again... haha... pathetic little creatures..
and theonlyone trying to be so wellspoken when he ridicules beautiful women as scary and trashy things ::), such a peacefull and balanced individual.
another dual faced preach from these crazy folk :D
Some one created science. It was a gift for you to exercise your mind. Science cannot create one blade of grass.....without the ingrediants that were given to us by the creator. Science and God go hand in hand.
Jesus is the son of God. Two different beings.
Haha, another thread where the monkey faced devil boy is preaching his verison of religion to us. it's always the one who shouts hypocrite that turns out to be the biggest hypocrite of them all.
get a real job, support you own scrawny ass, and then come back and lecture us about life turd.
this monkey face thinks he has it all figured out and can lecture us about how to live LOL bushy browed monkey face
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the laws of Newtonian physics and quantum mechanix existed long before man discovered them and called them science...
btw Christianity severely violates the uncertainty principle...one cannot be in 2 places at the same time simply put...yet Christianity preaches exactly that with Jesus on earth and Jesus being god
http://www.thebigview.com/spacetime/uncertainty.html
dont combine the classroom and faith. you're a Pakistani...correct? don't teach the young ladies this atheist BS.i lived 15 years in pakistan....i've lived 19 years in America...which do you think i am?
i lived 15 years in pakistan....i've lived 19 years in America...which do you think i am?Where does Toxie's soul go? The spirit, life-force, etc is eternal. Does it go to some neither-realm, some type of dimension, that science is somehow breaking the walls to? A dimension in which our eternal energy goes? A dimension that exists right beside ours?
you believe in imaginary super beings ...a he-man of sorts..master of the universe...you believe in vampires...and fairies at the bottom of your garden...and werevolves and the easter bunny and santa ...
i believe in things that i can quantify ..science..reality...
i fear death just like you...except i'm not willing to be delusional and believe that after i die i'll have an eternal afterlife ::) i sympathize though...not everyone can deal with their own mortality in a calm logical manner
i lived 15 years in pakistan....i've lived 19 years in America...which do you think i am?
you believe in imaginary super beings ...a he-man of sorts..master of the universe...you believe in vampires...and fairies at the bottom of your garden...and werevolves and the easter bunny and santa ...
i believe in things that i can quantify ..science..reality...
i fear death just like you...except i'm not willing to be delusional and believe that after i die i'll have an eternal afterlife ::) i sympathize though...not everyone can deal with their own mortality in a calm logical manner
i lived 15 years in pakistan....i've lived 19 years in America...which do you think i am?
you believe in imaginary super beings ...a he-man of sorts..master of the universe...you believe in vampires...and fairies at the bottom of your garden...and werevolves and the easter bunny and santa ...
i believe in things that i can quantify ..science..reality...
i fear death just like you...except i'm not willing to be delusional and believe that after i die i'll have an eternal afterlife ::) i sympathize though...not everyone can deal with their own mortality in a calm logical manner
the laws of Newtonian physics and quantum mechanix existed long before man discovered them and called them science...
btw Christianity severely violates the uncertainty principle...one cannot be in 2 places at the same time simply put...yet Christianity preaches exactly that with Jesus on earth and Jesus being god
http://www.thebigview.com/spacetime/uncertainty.html
Where does Toxie's soul go? The spirit, life-force, etc is eternal. Does it go to some neither-realm, some type of dimension, that science is somehow breaking the walls to? A dimension in which our eternal energy goes? A dimension that exists right beside ours?
i lived 15 years in pakistan....i've lived 19 years in America...which do you think i am?
you believe in imaginary super beings ...a he-man of sorts..master of the universe...you believe in vampires...and fairies at the bottom of your garden...and werevolves and the easter bunny and santa ...
i believe in things that i can quantify ..science..reality...
i fear death just like you...except i'm not willing to be delusional and believe that after i die i'll have an eternal afterlife ::) i sympathize though...not everyone can deal with their own mortality in a calm logical manner
???lets look at the logic behind this post of yours....since you cant refute my argument..and i grew up in pakistan you post a 911 video hoping to illicit an angry emotional responce from me
science and religion fused.
they're in the mid-east. teach the girls well.
yugggghh, ewww...............that just gave me douche chills
what an arrogant, myopic thing to say
it amazing that after being industrialized for a century..........we have people walking around this in love with their own intellect
surely the could be NOTHING bigger then your mind, nothing you wouldnt understand or dont already have figured out
you know ALL....... ::) ::) ::)
Yes physics are certain laws that exist in our realm and are used in creation and evolution to a small extent. Yes these laws pre date mans existnce but were used to put the master creation (Humankind) here on earth. So you have no point as far as timeline. When baking a cake some of the ingrediants are gathered before the cake appears.
2nd point. Perhaps a physical entity cannot be in 2 places at once, but perhaps a spirit body (not one that is physical and must obey gravity for instance) can. Possibly it couldnt be in 2 places even at once, but could be everywhere at once!! :o
then why do christians worship jesus?
Still smarter than you.
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below r 2 video that i have posted many many many times and no one watches cause they r a bit long...these i call the smoking gun videos since 90% of the footage is from NASAs own shuttle cameras analyzed by david sereda and physicist..give me similar proof of god...
Dont you believe in UFOs tox?
Because no one come to the father except thru the son. BUT Jesus stated many times that his father waas afar greater entity than himself and that he only had the priveledge of representing him on earth. So Jesus is not to be worshiped......just respected. Almighty GOD is to be worshipped. But it is your choice.
Dont you believe in UFOs tox?
below r 2 video that i have posted many many many times and no one watches cause they r a bit long...these i call the smoking gun videos since 90% of the footage is from NASAs own shuttle cameras analyzed by david sereda and physicist..give me similar proof of god...
btw..i do recommend you watch these..they r entertaining also...and tell me what u think
Evidence: Case of the NASA UFOs
http://www.guba.com/watch/3000113495/The-Case-For-NASA-UFOs-PART-1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8524267568796529301#
Ive seen em already. ;D Checkout www.bigfootencounters.co m
Amazing stuuf on bigfoot. Some say he is the line of cain in the bible, hence is never killed and looks halfhuman half ape. But is seen 100s of times per tear.
Still smarter than you.
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here is another 1
secret space : from the Nazis to today
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1485155465058882626#
www.bfro.net Bigfoots are more interesting... >:( SOme say ufos are tied to them somehow... :o
if you had just taken the time to read 1 post above the one you posted...anyhow i'll cope and paste it again for you..this time in bold
i dont believe i have a soul ...unless otherwise proved....
i have an open mind...but right now i see no evidence proving the existence of god or a soul inside of me
According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence.
LOL yea ok guys. We're all just here by "mistake" ::) ::)
Yep, I agree with you Toxic.
Having an open mind means evaluating the data presented and forming an hypothesis. It doesn't mean giving credence to ridiculous unsubstantiated assumptions. Only placebos require faith.
Evidence supports the theory that the Universe has always existed in some form. The Singularity being another state of the Universe. 'Something' appears to be the nature of reality, not 'nothing'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem
Spontaneous existence has been shown to occur in nature. No 'god' needed. As Hawking's statement implies; not that there is no 'god', but rather, that a god is unnecessary for the formation of the Universe. His reasoning is somewhat different though, to my understanding. *I haven't read his book and therefore can't comment directly on his statement*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_state
It also appears that life is probably unavoidable, if not inevitable.
my belief in god started out of logic. but since then it has evolved and now it lies in more than logic, but in personal experience. you can never know god untill you believe in him. i dont believe in eternal life, i know i will die someday. i hope god has made death something that is not uncomfortable, but i dont know. howver i do know that through prayer i have been able to communicate with god and my quality of life has improved twelve fold. you really can have a relationship with god, and he can help you understand things you would have never understood. trust me, i think you know i am not some stupid repuplican bible touting idiot with no intellect.. i wouldnt lie to you. and i wouldnt fall for placebo effect either.
Yep, I agree with you Toxic.
Having an open mind means evaluating the data presented ands forming an hypothesis. It doesn't mean giving credence too ridiculous unsubstantiated assumptions. Only placebos require faith.
Evidence supports the theory that the Universe has always existed in some form. The Singularity being another state of the Universe. 'Something' appears to be the nature of reality, not 'nothing'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem
Spontaneous existence has been shown to occur in nature. No 'god' needed. As Hawking's statement implies; not that there is no 'god', but rather, that a god is unnecessary for the formation of the Universe. His reasoning is somewhat different though, to my understanding. *I haven't read his book and therefore can't comment directly on his statement*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_state
It also appears that life is probably unavoidable, if not inevitable.
Yep, I agree with you Toxic.you need to read up on brane theory..where membranes exist in more than 4 dimensions and the collision of these membranes sparks a new universe>spontaneous creation DOES happen...like outside black holes when delectrons get sucked into the black hole and an anti election pops out of no where (positron) and heads in the opposite direction to conserve the mass of the universe...we detect black holes using this radiation aptly called Hawkings radiation since if ws him who predicted it..i've been reading and rereading
Having an open mind means evaluating the data presented and forming an hypothesis. It doesn't mean giving credence to ridiculous unsubstantiated assumptions. Only placebos require faith.
Evidence supports the theory that the Universe has always existed in some form. The Singularity being another state of the Universe. 'Something' appears to be the nature of reality, not 'nothing'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem
Spontaneous existence has been shown to occur in nature. No 'god' needed. As Hawking's statement implies; not that there is no 'god', but rather, that a god is unnecessary for the formation of the Universe. His reasoning is somewhat different though, to my understanding. *I haven't read his book and therefore can't comment directly on his statement*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_state
It also appears that life is probably unavoidable, if not inevitable.
you can never know god untill you believe in him.
god has made death something that is not uncomfortableas for god making death not uncomfortable...i guess if its not uncomfortable..we really dont have to feel bad for the 911 victims and our soldiers in iraq huh
Many people take comfort in the presence of a 'God'. I take comfort in the absolute certainty it's all made up.
And communists of course.
you need to read up on brane theory..where membranes exist in more than 4 dimensions and the collision of these membranes sparks a new universe>spontaneous creation DOES happen...like outside black holes when delectrons get sucked into the black hole and an anti election pops out of no where (positron) and heads in the opposite direction to conserve the mass of the universe...we detect black holes using this radiation aptly called Hawkings radiation since if ws him who predicted it..i've been reading and rereading
A brief History of time since high school
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation
you can also youtube brian greenes "the elegant universe"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/elegant-universe-einstein.html pretty good show on string theory
Yes, I own a well worn copy of BHoT myself. I may pick up his latest book too, which apparently has people so riled up.
I'm pretty sure I've seen it before, but a refresher would be nice. Thanks man.
Because no one come to the father except thru the son. BUT Jesus stated many times that his father waas afar greater entity than himself and that he only had the priveledge of representing him on earth. So Jesus is not to be worshiped......just respected. Almighty GOD is to be worshipped. But it is your choice.
Dont you believe in UFOs tox?
And also for Stephen Hawkings to claim that there is no God and that evolution and chance to create anything; this means that there are no such things as laws or boundaries.why don't you post under your real account? :D
This means that there is no such thing as love, no moral code, that we are nothing but animals.
If we are here by chance, why are their laws, why do people know what is right or wrong? Deep inside we have a moral code. We know that if we kill someone, we feel guilt and know it is wrong. We know that sleeping wiht an animla is not natural or committing adultery is wrong..
We are not here by chance.
I know it is wrong to hate black people. How do I know, the Bible told me so... to hate another man because of the color of his skin is wrong.
Stephen Hawkins even though he is intelligent is also blind of the truth.
Maybe if evolution is true, someone should kill this fag. It wold show evolution is true...survival of the fittest just like Hitler preached. But you know what? Evolution is not true because where there is faith, their is love and human kindness and compassion....thats why he lives today event hoguh according to evolution, he should be ddead
why don't you post under your real account? :D
LOL yea ok guys. We're all just here by "mistake" ::) ::)you for sure are.
beachboy, you have a basic understanding but not complete.
1st. No where in the bible does Jesus equate equal power to his Father almighty GOD. Yes they are one in purpose and harmony the same way you and i may root for the same football team at the sports bar.....camaraderie,same goals etc.
2nd. People wanted to worship Jesus as a child but what did he say as he beacame a man.....Luke 4:8 He resented even being called Good teacher as it took credit from his father....Matt 10:18
3rd. Yes he is the Word of God as he represents GODS purpose for mankind but you misquote that he was not God...but a god. different.
4th. Yes Jesus was created directly By ALMIGHTY GOD thus his firstborn creation. And then thru his fathers power Jesus created all things after. Col 1:15, Isaiah 44:6
Those that believe in the complex idea of the trinity are making it hard for themselves. If you use the bible as a whole you can see they are 2 persons that have love for humankind and want the suffering to end. (which it will soon at armageddon) The 3rd entity is simply the holy spirit but it doesnt exist on its own as it is GODS powerful force to make things happen.....its not a person.
Im off to the gym. take care.
There is zero point in debating about God on Getbig. It's about as pointless as insisting that I lift a mountain with my mind.
And also for Stephen Hawkings to claim that there is no God and that evolution and chance to create anything; this means that there are no such things as laws or boundaries.
This means that there is no such thing as love, no moral code, that we are nothing but animals.
If we are here by chance, why are their laws, why do people know what is right or wrong? Deep inside we have a moral code. We know that if we kill someone, we feel guilt and know it is wrong. We know that sleeping wiht an animla is not natural or committing adultery is wrong..
We are not here by chance.
I know it is wrong to hate black people. How do I know, the Bible told me so... to hate another man because of the color of his skin is wrong.
Stephen Hawkins even though he is intelligent is also blind of the truth.
Maybe if evolution is true, someone should kill this fag. It wold show evolution is true...survival of the fittest just like Hitler preached. But you know what? Evolution is not true because where there is faith, their is love and human kindness and compassion....thats why he lives today event hoguh according to evolution, he should be ddead
More proof that jesus is God:
This Messiah would be born a human son, but have a higher nature
Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
This was a radical statement coming from a monotheistic Jewish prophet -- especially calling a human being “Mighty God”; but one that God fulfilled centuries later in Christ.
Thomas’ response to the resurrected Jesus
John 20:27-29: “Then He said to Thomas, ‘Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.’ Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’ Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’"
This disciple realized, because of Jesus’ resurrection, who Jesus really was -- and humbly worshiped Him and declared His true identity: “My Lord and my God!” Jesus not only accepts this declaration, but blesses all of the disciples -- and all of us today -- who come to the same realization and place of humble worship.
Jesus accepted worship from His disciples
Matthew 14:32-33: “And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”
In a Jewish culture, only the one true God can be worshiped; their actions show that they acknowledged Jesus as being divine. And Jesus didn’t correct them or say, “Don’t you realize that I’m just a mortal prophet? Stop worshiping me!” Rather, He accepted their worship, knowing He really was God in human flesh.
I have never seen a non-believer become a believer or a believer become a non-believer within a Getbig "debate God" thread. We have some good minds on Getbig (both for and against God), but I've never seen anyone persuaded to change their belief systems. At best these threads leave both parties with questions that they can seek out answers for on their own, but otherwise it's pointless. Most believers present extremely weak, unsupported, faith-based arguments that do nothing to assist the non-believer and most non-believers are so entrenched in man-made ideology that they could speak with Christ himself and not be satisfied....these debates never, ever work within the thread. I took the argument offline, read a numbers of books, educated myself and strengthened my faith in the process. That was the only benefit of these types of threads.
Are you saying you come to Getbig purely to look at pic after pic of men in thongs, like most of us straight guys, MOS?
most scientists are atheists thats already saying enough.
True, but you'd be amazed at the number of scientists who were once atheists and became believers. So many became atheists because of Darwin's early work, but their own modern research has unexpectedly led them to the idea of an intelligent designer.
I respect your posts and I'm a believer, but the problem is most Getbig nonbelievers care nothing for the bible and find no value in what it says....they'll dismiss your words the moment they read them. Although, hopefully your posts will stimulate a desire for a nonbeliever to pursue questions of salvation and faith offline in meaningful way.
Bit of advice when presenting salvation and faith to a nonbeliever: under no circumstances should you insult them. Even if they poke and prod and do nothing but put you down and attempt to make you angry......never, ever retaliate. Present what you understand as best as you can, offer to take matters into a private chat with them if they have interest, but never insult or tell them they are wrong.why not?
Im glad you are a believer. I guess I tried to plant a seed the best I could.how can you be racist when you're black? ;D
Im not perfect. I hold racist views and Im trying to change it but it is so hard when I see so many hypocrites and so many crimes being perpetrated by the black community. IE black males fathering so many illegitimate kids as well as fathering so many mixed kids that they dont even take care of. People glorifying rap music with its approval of sleeping with your best friends girl and slapping hoes and such! Black men stealing peoples cars and stealing what isnt theres. I contribute a lot of the crimes to black people
Trust me, I am trying to change my racist point of views but it is so hard
most scientists are atheists thats already saying enough.
Im glad you are a believer. I guess I tried to plant a seed the best I could.
How so? At a point in time "scientists" believed many things that turned out to be false.scientists created all technology in society not "faith" lol. if it wasn't for scientists you wouldn't be typing on the computer now, you would be sitting in a cave.
scientists created all technology in society not "faith" lol. if it wasn't for scientists you wouldn't be typing on the computer now, you would be sitting in a cave.
scientists created all technology in society not "faith" lol. if it wasn't for scientists you wouldn't be typing on the computer now, you would be sitting in a cave.
why not?
Max, there are so called scientists who were men of faith...Copernicus , Galileo , Newton , Kelvin ..
Einstein never came to believe in a personal god but he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
You know Einstein and Spinoza were Jewish, right?
What is the number? I'm interested in becoming amazed.
Wish I knew, but regardless of how I phrased my post it's really less about the number and more about how their research has led them to their faith. Perhaps you could check out some of Lee Strobel's books.
And? That doesn't make every concept they develop a "fact" as many believe. They are right on some things, wrong on others, just like everybody else.Like said you don't have to prove a negative. In science you have to show evidence that supports your theory. If the evidence is strong enough then it's a fact. Religion is mythology fairy tales just like santa and unicorns.
Of course I knew that. WHat I was trying to say that Einstein does not believe that this world was created by chance. He denied atheism.
Christ is about love and insults don't support that.Yes but that doesn't stop me from insulting you. I'm not religious.
I've actually read that Einstein became a believer and I've also read that Einstein didn't become a full on believer but that he did belief in an intelligent designer of the universe. Either way he denied atheism at the end of his life.
Yes but that doesn't stop me from insulting you. I'm not religious.
You realize that unless you and EWA turn out to be the exact same denomination, this is going to end with one of you telling the other one that he's a-goin' to Hell.
You realize that unless you and EWA turn out to be the exact same denomination, this is going to end with one of you telling the other one that he's a-goin' to Hell.
I know one thing..I am going to go to hell if I dont not have Jesus in my life and change my ways.lol why because black mama that you went to church with every sunday told you so? :D
Scientific Facts in the Bible
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lol why because black mama that you went to church with every sunday told you so? :D
Oh boy here we go!!!
MOS - I'm just kidding. You guys both seem to have good intentions.
So, uh, what denominations are you guys anyway? ;D
beachboy. you seem to be stuck on the concept tht the son nd the fther are one entity. No where in the bible is this made.....in fact the differences are frequent. John 14:28 "the father is greater than I and I will go to him again" Mny time Jesus prayed to his father....obviously he wasnt praying to himself or going back to see himself... ???
Simply put Jesus is the son of GOD and they live with the same purpose in mind nd harmony but are 2 different persons....obviously.
I am proud that MOS and beachboy are servants for the christ tho. Of course no one is perfect and we all fall short daily but lets try our best anyway.. 8)
Like said you don't have to prove a negative. In science you have to show evidence that supports your theory. If the evidence is strong enough then it's a fact. Religion is mythology fairy tales just like santa and unicorns.
beachboy. you seem to be stuck on the concept tht the son nd the fther are one entity. No where in the bible is this made.....in fact the differences are frequent. John 14:28 "the father is greater than I and I will go to him again" Mny time Jesus prayed to his father....obviously he wasnt praying to himself or going back to see himself... ???
Simply put Jesus is the son of GOD and they live with the same purpose in mind nd harmony but are 2 different persons....obviously.
I am proud that MOS and beachboy are servants for the christ tho. Of course no one is perfect and we all fall short daily but lets try our best anyway.. 8)
Scientific Facts in the Bible
1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.
3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).
4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).
5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).
6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.
7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."
8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).
9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).
10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.
11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."
12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.
13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."
14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued
WITF would jesus pray to his father, and his holy ghost/holy spirit, and hence, him self? ALL BS! Albert E. and Stephen H. are a combined I.Q. of what, 500? I will go with them.arce posted a full sentence :o
I've actually read that Einstein became a believer and I've also read that Einstein didn't become a full on believer but that he did belief in an intelligent designer of the universe. Either way he denied atheism at the end of his life.
WITF would jesus pray to his father, and his holy ghost/holy spirit, and hence, him self? ALL BS! Albert E. and Stephen H. are a combined I.Q. of what, 500? I will go with them.
Proof please.einstein definitely believed in God. just maybe not the paternalistic God that most people think of.
Because he joked that "the old man doesn't play dice with the Universe" and didn't like the non-commutation between position and momentum in quantum mechanics, God squatters have used their well honed powers of logical reasoning to decide that Einstein has been proven to be a "believer."
WTF would you ask what amounts to a rhetorical question about why God would do anything, and WTF do you think you or Stephen Hawking or 240 or Bust or anyone else would have the "correct answer"? = The correct question.
einstein definitely believed in God. just maybe not the paternalistic God that most people think of.
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10B1EFC3E54167A93C7AB178FD85F4D8285F9
You must have shit where your brains should be. Did you "buy" the "article" to see what it said after the misleading abstract? That stupid fucking "Spinoza's God" thing gets puked out every time Einstein and religion come into question.ya, thats exactly what he says.
Buy the rest of the "article" and you'll see that the abstract is a total fucking lie.
not debateable.. einstein = panthiest
Well let me ask you why sea animals felt the need to evolve to come on land?? Proven link between land and sea animals??
LOL if you truely believe humans evolved from fish then I have some beachfront property in North Dakota to sell you. ;D
We got some Kool Aid drinkers in these here parts. :P
So, human beings were just "poof" put on earth the way we are now??? Grow up
As opposed to a fish that grew into a human lol. If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you! ;D
Proof please.
Because he joked that "the old man doesn't play dice with the Universe" and didn't like the non-commutation between position and momentum in quantum mechanics, God squatters have used their well honed powers of logical reasoning to decide that Einstein has been proven to be a "believer."
Father God, please forgive me for all my sins and please forgive me for all the people that I have wronged and hurt. Help me become a better person and a reflection of your Son who gave his life for me, whom you have sent to die in my place.
I know I am a sinner and I am in need of a savior. Please come into my life and give me a new heart.
The first part I read online when doing some surfing surrounding the origin of life, Darwinism, carbon dating and metaphysics (I don't document my googling). The second I read in a book called the "Case For A Creator" by Lee Strobel.
doison, I know you didn't like my initial comments about imaginery numbers, but you'll just have to let it go......sorry bout that.
Regardless of any Getbig debating, this is all that truly matters. I hope others come to understand this post in time.
So I guess mankind was doomed before the scripture was written...After all there were stories written about a jesus like character hundreds of years before the jesus of the christian faith....Research it and come back with you your arguements...Please bring them on
Who really gives a damn if Einstein was a believer??? I mean if we can ever achieve time travel all would be disproven of the myth of what really happened with jesus
All I did was confirm for another poster that I had also read two similar positions about Einstein's beliefs later in his life. Be angry at the author not me. All we do on Getbig is regurgitate what we read somewhere else.
I am not angry....Just wish the best for those whom are ignorant..If it makes you feel better about your being than so be it....You, your family and anyone else you know will suffer at one point in time....Let your God not let this happen and I will believe in something other than natural process....no up without down, no happyness without suffering. everything is dependant upon its opposite. part of God's brilliance- yin and yang. shouldnt dissuade you from belief, it should fascinate and amaze
I am not angry....Just wish the best for those whom are ignorant..If it makes you feel better about your being than so be it....You, your family and anyone else you know will suffer at one point in time....Let your God not let this happen and I will believe in something other than natural process....
no up without down, no happyness without suffering. everything is dependant upon its opposite. part of God's brilliance- yin and yang. shouldnt dissuade you from belief, it should fascinate and amaze
Two months ago I came home from work at lunch to take care of my 5 month old daughter that was sick. My wife had taken the morning shift so she left for work. I went upstairs, gave my daughter a bottle and put her in crib for a nap. As I walked downstairs i fell down the last part of the stairs and dislocated my knee and hurt my quad. I visited a local medclinic and my pirmary doctor over the course of the next two weeks. I got an MRI of my leg and knee the day of my visit with my primary doctor. During the MRI procedure my knee dislocated twice. I sat with the injury for two weeks before seeing an othropedist that told me I needed immediate surgery. It was revealed that I had torn the tendons that attach my quad to my knee cap and tore my vastus medialis...the MRI didn't fully show this. I had surgery the day before my birthday and was sent home the day of my birthday. Two weeks later I was taken by ambulance to our local hospital emergency room for extreme shortness of breathe, sweating and fatigue. It was revealed that I had developed a blood clot in my leg and the one of the largest blood clots some of the doctors and nurses had ever seen in my lung. The cardiologist and pulmonoligist on site in the hospital told me and my family that IF I live I'd be in the ICU for 4-6 weeks minimum, and that my chances of surival were extremely touch and go for a long while. They prepared my family for the worst in private. My family and friends prayed over me and for me privately for the next couple of days. I was released from ICU 2.5 days later with the fastest, unexpected, unexplained recovery the doctors had seen. At this point I'd spent almost 6 weeks in hell. So, why did God choose to put me through this? I can't tell you exactly why, but I will tell you that my marriage (which was already solid) was strengthened 10 fold. My personal faith was strengthened. My wife has recognized a potential in herself she never realeased she had as a woman, wife and mother. The relationships in my family were strengthened. I know God led me by the hand and out of the grave I had one foot in. He's given me a new lease on life and I thank him. He's taught me to trust in him and I love him for it. The road hasn't been easy and I'm still on it He's allowed me and my family to suffer like never before and we've only arrived renewed with our faith strengthened.Why do you think God cares so much about you but not for 300,000 people that died in the 2004 Tsunami ???
Two months ago I came home from work at lunch to take care of my 5 month old daughter that was sick. My wife had taken the morning shift so she left for work. I went upstairs, gave my daughter a bottle and put her in crib for a nap. As I walked downstairs i fell down the last part of the stairs and dislocated my knee and hurt my quad. I visited a local medclinic and my pirmary doctor over the course of the next two weeks. I got an MRI of my leg and knee the day of my visit with my primary doctor. During the MRI procedure my knee dislocated twice. I sat with the injury for two weeks before seeing an othropedist that told me I needed immediate surgery. It was revealed that I had torn the tendons that attach my quad to my knee cap and tore my vastus medialis...the MRI didn't fully show this. I had surgery the day before my birthday and was sent home the day of my birthday. Two weeks later I was taken by ambulance to our local hospital emergency room for extreme shortness of breathe, sweating and fatigue. It was revealed that I had developed a blood clot in my leg and the one of the largest blood clots some of the doctors and nurses had ever seen in my lung. The cardiologist and pulmonoligist on site in the hospital told me and my family that IF I live I'd be in the ICU for 4-6 weeks minimum, and that my chances of surival were extremely touch and go for a long while. They prepared my family for the worst in private. My family and friends prayed over me and for me privately for the next couple of days. I was released from ICU 2.5 days later with the fastest, unexpected, unexplained recovery the doctors had seen. At this point I'd spent almost 6 weeks in hell. So, why did God choose to put me through this? I can't tell you exactly why, but I will tell you that my marriage (which was already solid) was strengthened 10 fold. My personal faith was strengthened. My wife has recognized a potential in herself she never realeased she had as a woman, wife and mother. The relationships in my family were strengthened. I know God led me by the hand and out of the grave I had one foot in. He's given me a new lease on life and I thank him. He's taught me to trust in him and I love him for it. The road hasn't been easy and I'm still on it He's allowed me and my family to suffer like never before and we've only arrived renewed with our faith strengthened.I am glad your family made it through it....but how many don't? Why does your God pick and chose?? To teach? I guess he is teaching when the pedifiles rape shildren time and time again...I gueess God "wasn't" around before man knew about written word...Grow the fuck up..I am happy your found strength in what you believe, but don't cut me down for reality
Why do you think God cares so much about you but not for 300,000 people that died in the 2004 Tsunami ???There was a tsunami in 2004?
There was a tsunami in 2004?
Taylor Hicks won american idol in 2004... I didn't catch this whole tsunami thing.Is she hot?
God missed it lolApparently so did I.
Why do you think God cares so much about you but not for 300,000 people that died in the 2004 Tsunami ???
I don't know why he allowed me to live....I'm no one special in the world's eyes.
Two months ago I came home from work at lunch to take care of my 5 month old daughter that was sick. My wife had taken the morning shift so she left for work. I went upstairs, gave my daughter a bottle and put her in crib for a nap. As I walked downstairs i fell down the last part of the stairs and dislocated my knee and hurt my quad. I visited a local medclinic and my pirmary doctor over the course of the next two weeks. I got an MRI of my leg and knee the day of my visit with my primary doctor. During the MRI procedure my knee dislocated twice. I sat with the injury for two weeks before seeing an othropedist that told me I needed immediate surgery. It was revealed that I had torn the tendons that attach my quad to my knee cap and tore my vastus medialis...the MRI didn't fully show this. I had surgery the day before my birthday and was sent home the day of my birthday. Two weeks later I was taken by ambulance to our local hospital emergency room for extreme shortness of breathe, sweating and fatigue. It was revealed that I had developed a blood clot in my leg and the one of the largest blood clots some of the doctors and nurses had ever seen in my lung. The cardiologist and pulmonoligist on site in the hospital told me and my family that IF I live I'd be in the ICU for 4-6 weeks minimum, and that my chances of surival were extremely touch and go for a long while. They prepared my family for the worst in private. My family and friends prayed over me and for me privately for the next couple of days. I was released from ICU 2.5 days later with the fastest, unexpected, unexplained recovery the doctors had seen. At this point I'd spent almost 6 weeks in hell. So, why did God choose to put me through this? I can't tell you exactly why, but I will tell you that my marriage (which was already solid) was strengthened 10 fold. My personal faith was strengthened. My wife has recognized a potential in herself she never realeased she had as a woman, wife and mother. The relationships in my family were strengthened. I know God led me by the hand and out of the grave I had one foot in. He's given me a new lease on life and I thank him. He's taught me to trust in him and I love him for it. The road hasn't been easy and I'm still on it He's allowed me and my family to suffer like never before and we've only arrived renewed with our faith strengthened.
Nor does any life...Grow up
Well, if you follow the christian faith than you would know that the "church" made up "hell" to give a yin to the yang....Grow up and learn that the christians just copied stories already written....and before that there was nothing, but man existed....Why did homosapiens exist with thicker sculls...I guess intelligent man was around but never died and left no proof of their existence...idiotswhat point are you trying to make exactly ? there can be no good without evil, no happyness without suffering. if god created a world with no tradgedy, no suffering, no pain or sorrow, then no one would have any idea what happyness, love, joy, and pleasure are all about, nor would they be able to enjoy them if they ever got a chance to experience them. that is what i posted. what you have responded with above doesnt even appear to be directed at me. how you got into the evolutionary purpouse of a thick skulled homosapien is beyond me. ;D
Sorry to hear about your near death experience. These types of occurrences happen with people of all religions.
They say there are no atheists in foxholes, but I tend to disagree with this reasoning. Near death experiences and times of unprecedented stress just makes us act even more irrationally. Of course you want a god to save you, who wouldn't?
No need to reply to my posts any longer. FYI ~ This will be the last of yours I respond to. Have a good night.
Good to hear everything turned out OK MOS, did the doc give any credit to your massive bulging physique and rippling muscles for your speedy recovery?
Actually he said my overall size and weight was making it more difficult for me to recover.uh oh, time to slim down to twink status?
Actually he said my overall size and weight was making it more difficult for me to recover.
I am glad your family made it through it....but how many don't? Why does your God pick and chose?? To teach? I guess he is teaching when the pedifiles rape shildren time and time again...I gueess God "wasn't" around before man knew about written word...Grow the fuck up..I am happy your found strength in what you believe, but don't cut me down for reality
Two months ago I came home from work at lunch to take care of my 5 month old daughter that was sick. My wife had taken the morning shift so she left for work. I went upstairs, gave my daughter a bottle and put her in crib for a nap. As I walked downstairs i fell down the last part of the stairs and dislocated my knee and hurt my quad. I visited a local medclinic and my pirmary doctor over the course of the next two weeks. I got an MRI of my leg and knee the day of my visit with my primary doctor. During the MRI procedure my knee dislocated twice. I sat with the injury for two weeks before seeing an othropedist that told me I needed immediate surgery. It was revealed that I had torn the tendons that attach my quad to my knee cap and tore my vastus medialis...the MRI didn't fully show this. I had surgery the day before my birthday and was sent home the day of my birthday. Two weeks later I was taken by ambulance to our local hospital emergency room for extreme shortness of breathe, sweating and fatigue. It was revealed that I had developed a blood clot in my leg and the one of the largest blood clots some of the doctors and nurses had ever seen in my lung. The cardiologist and pulmonoligist on site in the hospital told me and my family that IF I live I'd be in the ICU for 4-6 weeks minimum, and that my chances of surival were extremely touch and go for a long while. They prepared my family for the worst in private. My family and friends prayed over me and for me privately for the next couple of days. I was released from ICU 2.5 days later with the fastest, unexpected, unexplained recovery the doctors had seen. At this point I'd spent almost 6 weeks in hell. So, why did God choose to put me through this? I can't tell you exactly why, but I will tell you that my marriage (which was already solid) was strengthened 10 fold. My personal faith was strengthened. My wife has recognized a potential in herself she never realeased she had as a woman, wife and mother. The relationships in my family were strengthened. I know God led me by the hand and out of the grave I had one foot in. He's given me a new lease on life and I thank him. He's taught me to trust in him and I love him for it. The road hasn't been easy and I'm still on it He's allowed me and my family to suffer like never before and we've only arrived renewed with our faith strengthened.
God allows bad things to happen but He isnt the one that causes them to happen.
God grieves .
It is not God that makes it happen but people...
God allows bad things to happen but He isnt the one that causes them to happen.
Bad things happen such as rape or murder because of the bad in this world and the free will He gives everyone one of us.
I could choose to kill and hurt everybody but it wasnt God that made it happen...I made it happen.
In the end..because of my choice of doing wrong, God grieves and so does the victims of the family member that I have hurt or destroyed.
It is not God that makes it happen but people...please understand that
How do you know all this ???
Haha, you guys are ridiculous on your excuses for the all mighty...If at one point jesus could walk on water and turn water into wine than surely, keeping pedophiles from raping children would be no feat at all...I guess your god lets this happen to just grieve and make man understand his true self. How about making up revelations after going to heaven wasn't enough for christians to practice the religion....
There has been so many examples from history.
Christians being fed to the lions, Jesus being beaten and whipped by the romans because his own people the jews abandoned him, Mother Teresa feeding the poor and destitute, innocent babies being murdered, so many examples.
Do you actually think a loving God wants to see suffering especially for people that love him? The answer is no.
He gave mankind free will to either choose the right or wrong thing. We have the choice to either stop the wrongs or right the wrongs.
If God took away our free will, He wouldnt be a God of love but a god of enslavement.
Look it up you die hard christians, hell was made up to give an alternative to not going to heaven....Challenge me on it....You will see the scriptures about revelations were written to give a dark side....what does that have to do with anything? because "hell" was made up the universe caused itself to happen? or because hell was made up, good can exist without evil? hahaha.. do you think about what yoru going to post before you post it?? ;D
God allows bad things to happen but He isnt the one that causes them to happen.
Bad things happen such as rape or murder because of the bad in this world and the free will He gives everyone one of us.
I could choose to kill and hurt everybody but it wasnt God that made it happen...I made it happen.
In the end..because of my choice of doing wrong, God grieves and so does the victims of the family member that I have hurt or destroyed.
It is not God that makes it happen but people...please understand that
If god gave us free will, (which christians preach) than god wouldn't mind us practicing whatever....God strike me down if I am wrong....tick tock tick tockyour literally defeating your own argument with your own argument.. hahahahah if you had free will god wouldnt strike you down
There has been so many examples from history.
Christians being fed to the lions, Jesus being beaten and whipped by the romans because his own people the jews abandoned him, Mother Teresa feeding the poor and destitute, innocent babies being murdered, so many examples.
Do you actually think a loving God wants to see suffering especially for people that love him? The answer is no.
He gave mankind free will to either choose the right or wrong thing. We have the choice to either stop the wrongs or right the wrongs.
If God took away our free will, He wouldnt be a God of love but a god of enslavement.
what does that have to do with anything? because "hell" was made up the universe caused itself to happen? or because hell was made up, good can exist without evil? hahaha.. do you think about what yoru going to post before you post it?? ;D
He is an example Realist:
Jesus didnt have to die on the cross. At any given moment, the jews could have fought for him. Pilate could have let Jesus go because he knew that Jesus was an innocent man. Jesus could have called down fire from heaven. God could have prevented Jesus from dying as well
But God left it up for us to do the right thing...The Jews had a choice to save Jesus. They were given scripture to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah but they turned a blind eye even though mahy of them knew that Jesus was the messiah.
According to the Bible, the Bible says that Jesus suffered the most out of any human being.
We all on this earth deserved to die because we all are inherently evil and sinful. But Jesus was the only innocent person who never did wrong to anyone whose life was taken from him.
I ask you, why did God allow Jesus to suffer?
Because we allowed it to happen just like we allow all the wrongs in this world to happen wether its by our perverted nature or our sicks minds or because we have no courage to fight the wrongs...
think of why you dismiss all other gods but the one of your choosing....thats why I dismiss yours...all religions worshipped the same god, whether they knew it or not
Yea I know...oh oh oh but my gods different...please...pat hetic beings...
all religions worshipped the same god, whether they knew it or not
Absolutely, I am stating "facts" quoted by christians.....I know there is evil and good in the world, I just can stand christians pushing their bullshit on the worldnot facts, but fact. singular. you quoted one fact. "hell was made up." and that has no consequence for the subject being discussed. so its a meaningless contirbution. thanks.. :( ;D
Absolutely, I am stating "facts" quoted by christians.....I know there is evil and good in the world, I just can stand christians pushing their bullshit on the world
And what if you found out this wasn't true??
If God isnt real, should we all just kill each other? Show no compassion or love for those who have nothing?
According to Darwinism, evolution means survival of the fittest and there is no such thing as laws or compassion, it means that there was no wrong when Hitler killed many jews, it means that I could go on the street and kill anyone...that means that retarded people dont deserve to be alive, or people missing limbs dont deserve food and shelter, ect
But you know what? God is real because where there is faith, there is hope, love and compassion.
Look around you...this is no accident
When did you see God grieving ???
The bible tells of many accounts of God grieving:
When he saw the wickedness of men and saw men commit murder and saw the wickedness of men, he was sorry he made them...thats a quote from the Bible
The bible tells of many accounts of God grieving:
When he saw the wickedness of men and saw men commit murder and saw the wickedness of men, he was sorry he made them...thats a quote from the Bible
The bible tells of many accounts of God grieving:
When he saw the wickedness of men and saw men commit murder and saw the wickedness of men, he was sorry he made them...thats a quote from the Bible
Pray to god when you have a knife to your kneck....By the way Jews don't believe in hell if you didn't know....
The Bible ::)
Some Jews did believe in hell. Some Jews believed that when you died, there is no afterlife and youre just gone forever.
In Old Testament times, the Hebrew term "Sheol" (the abode of the dead) contained two compartments separated by an impassable gulf. The righteous awaited resurrection in the "Bosom of Abraham" (Paradise), while the unrighteous awaited resurrection in "Gehenna" (Hebrew) or "Hades" (Greek) a place of torment.
Many Jews today deny the existence of hell and Satan, yet there are many passages of Scripture in the Old Testament to support the literal existence of both hell and Satan.
Job 2:7
So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head.
Psalm 109:6
Appoint an evil man or [the Evil One]] to oppose him; let an accuser or [let Satan]] stand at his right hand.
Zechariah 3:1
Then he showed me Joshua ; the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD , and Satan [ accuser ] standing at his right side to accuse him.
Zechariah 3:2
The LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?"
The Old Testament does speak of hell and the Devil although many Jewish people and even rabbis would deny the literal existence of either Satan or eternal torment. There are also a number of Christian cults which falsely teach that hell is a place of annihilation. In the New Testament we find 81 references to hell, devils or Satan. It is clear from the following passage from the Book of Daniel that both the righteous and the unrighteous will be raised to experience eternity.
I know this is an endless battle....They are idiots that view a blind eye to stories of a jesus like figure written about in other cultures hundreds of years before jesus lolim not a believer in jesus, never saw him, but why would similar stories from other cultures refute jesus? that would only strengthen his story in my eyes. totally different cultures coming to a very similar story ?? how does that happen, if they are related in some way?
I know this is an endless battle....They are idiots that view a blind eye to stories of a jesus like figure written about in other cultures hundreds of years before jesus lol
im not a believer in jesus, never saw him, but why would similar stories from other cultures refute jesus? that would only strengthen his story in my eyes. totally different cultures coming to a very similar story ?? how does that happen, if they are related in some way?
just wondering.. you dont believe the actual person jesus christ ever lived, or you just dont believe that he was "magical" and the son of god?
False historians want to disprove that other religions had a messianic figure way before Judaism and Christianity. But Jesus fulfilled so many prophesies of the BibleIf the Bible is made up, how can he have fulfilled so many prophesies? What are the chances?
GOD WOULD COME TO EARTH
BE BORN AS A HUMAN MALE
Isaiah 9:6-7 [6] For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [7] Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. ... 700 B.C.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
John 1:1-3, 14 [1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was with God in the beginning. [3] Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. [14] The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
BORN OF A VIRGIN
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. 700 B.C.
Mattthew 1:20-23 [20] But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. [21] She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins." [22] All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: [23] "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" --which means, "God with us."
FROM THE HOUSE OF JUDAH
Isaiah 37:31 Once more a remnant of the house of Judah will take root below and bear fruit above. 700 B.C.
Matthew 1:1-2, 16 [1] A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son [descendant] of David, the son of Abraham: [2] Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, [16] and [a later] Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
FROM THE ROOT AND STUMP OF JESSE
Isaiah 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 700 B.C.
Isaiah 11:1-5 [1] A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. [2] The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD-- [3] and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; [4] but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked. [5] Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist. 700 B.C.
Romans 15:12 And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him."
Matthew 1:1-2a, 5-6, 16 [1] A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham: [2] Abraham was the father of Isaac, ... [5] ... Obed the father of Jesse, [6] and Jesse the father of King David. [16] and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
FROM THE HOUSE OF DAVID
Isaiah 16:5 In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it--one from the house of David--one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness. 700 B.C.
Matthew 1:1-2A, 6, 16 [1] A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham: [2] Abraham was the father of Isaac, ... [6] and Jesse the father of King David. [16] and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
BORN IN BETHLEHEM EPHRATHAH
Micah 5:2 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times. 700 B.C.
Matthew 2:1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem
Over the years there have been a number of "Bethlehems" in Israel. At the time of Jesus' birth, Bethlehem Ephrathah, referred to in Matthew as "Bethlehem in Judea", was a village about five miles south of Jerusalem, and there also was a town named Bethlehem about seven miles northwest of Nazareth. (Per footnote Matthew 2:1 of the Zondervan NIV Study Bible, 10th Anniversary Edition, (c) 1995)
BE FROM NAZARETH OF GALILEE
Isaiah 9:1-2 [1] Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan -- [2] The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned. 700 B.C.
Matthew 2:22-23 [22] But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning in Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. Having been warned in a dream, he withdrew to the district of Galilee, [23] and he went and lived in a town called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets: "He will be called a Nazarene."
If evolution is true:
1.You are nothing but stardust that came from a cosmic burp 18 billion years ago.
2.There is no purpose to life except to have fun and pass on your genes.
3.When you die you get recycled into a worm or a plant.
4.There is no such thing as right or wrong, there are no absolutes.
5.You are an accident and have little or no value.
6.The universe will not miss you when you are gone.
7.Your presence here is a burden on the planet since you are one of the polluters. It would be better for the world if you died.
The other option is that you were designed by an all-powerful Creator who has a purpose for each of us. When you die, you face the Creator to give an account for your life. Your duty here is to find out what the Creator wants, and do it since He is the owner of the universe and makes the rules! These two views of life are as opposite as any two views could be. At least one of them is wrong!
If evolution is true:
1.You are nothing but stardust that came from a cosmic burp 18 billion years ago.
2.There is no purpose to life except to have fun and pass on your genes.
3.When you die you get recycled into a worm or a plant.
4.There is no such thing as right or wrong, there are no absolutes.
5.You are an accident and have little or no value.
6.The universe will not miss you when you are gone.
7.Your presence here is a burden on the planet since you are one of the polluters. It would be better for the world if you died.
The other option is that you were designed by an all-powerful Creator who has a purpose for each of us. When you die, you face the Creator to give an account for your life. Your duty here is to find out what the Creator wants, and do it since He is the owner of the universe and makes the rules! These two views of life are as opposite as any two views could be. At least one of them is wrong!
Good to hear you are ok after that, MOS. Wish you a speedy recovery.
Thanks God:o pLEASE SIR MAY i HAVE SOME MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Thanks God
Forgive me, but I didn't watch the clip. Still, I've often wondered why atheists are so concerned about religion. Believers are commanded to spread the word of God, but atheists aren't commanded to do anything. The majority of the world already supports them so why are they worried about religion? They never have to participate in it and can avoid it rather easily. This is a crude comparison, but I don't like hip hop. Hip hop music is everywhere, but I choose not to participate in it and can avoid it completely with virtually no effort. I know we have references to God on our money and other such symbols of our country, but do those types of things truly impact an atheists life?
I'm ignorant, educate me.
if you dont have the time to watch the clip then I dont have time for your comments...
My wife and daughter are asleep next to me and I didnt want to disturb them. It had nothing to do with wasting your time....it's why I prefaced it with asking for forgiveness because I didn't watch the clip.
My wife and daughter are asleep next to me and I didnt want to disturb them. It had nothing to do with wasting your time....it's why I prefaced it with asking for forgiveness because I didn't watch the clip.
no head phones? ..typical...
Pedophillia and incest are rampant in christian households...discuss
I own headphones, but I'm also in a thigh imbolizer and have to use a walker at the present and they're upstairs in my home. It's a bit difficult right now.
But Ross Erstling is Jewish ???Same shit diffrent day :D
Pedophillia and incest are rampant in christian households...discuss
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I know its rampant in muslim households too (so I have been told)
I cant ansswer this because I have no experience about this.
But what I do know is that people use religion as a masqaurade to make themselves seem like good people.
Well I hope god shows mercy on you if you have to watch your child and wife be raped by another acting on god's free will
Pedophillia and incest are rampant in christian households...discuss
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I know its rampant in muslim households too (so I have been told)
I cant ansswer this because I have no experience about this.
But what I do know is that people use religion as a masqaurade to make themselves seem like good people.
Haha if you fall from the truth at all in everyday life you are being a hypocrite....If I followed you for a day I would find you don't practice your religion....
Father God, please forgive me for all my sins and please forgive me for all the people that I have wronged and hurt. Help me become a better person and a reflection of your Son who gave his life for me, whom you have sent to die in my place.
I know I am a sinner and I am in need of a savior. Please come into my life and give me a new heart.
If only you could use your so called massive brain for some clear thinking. Its unfortunate that your brain is only used for satisfying your massive ego into somehow think you are higher than other life forms, I think you would find that ants probably play a greater and more important role in the scheme of things in balancing the earths Eco structure than do humans. Reading your post I envision an overgrown manchild jumping up and down in frustration because someone else doesn't agree with his juvenile opinions. I think you need to learn a little more about the world around you, including ants, here are a couple of facts for you - If a man could run as fast for his size as an ant can, he could run as fast as a racehorse. Ants can lift 20 times their own body weight - pretty impressive I think. And just because you are obviously a barely functioning illiterate, I suggest a good documentary for you to begin the education process, it is called "Ants.Natures.Secret.Powe r". Good Luck
eggh god................answe r me honestly, are you fucking retarded
see, humans have these things that are called BRAINS...............you might have heard of them ...........they weight like 8 lbs and are responsible for memory, thought, and higher motor function and reasoning
ants...............do not have the hardware...........they have brains that are like 1/1,000,000 the size of ourse.............and support the most basic of functions like motor-control and smell............and they exhibit a hive mind, where the groups shows a collective intellect
ants are incapable of going "im in a bad mood today, i feel sad"..............just like they are incapable of going "i miss my dead mother"............or "they sky is blue"...........and a matter of fact, they cannot communicate to themselves at all because they have no higher reasoning, language, or emotion centers
they are pre-programmed, and function like very simple robots would function
stop embarrassing yourself adn saying "how do you know what ants think".................you just look like a fucking idiot, like really, you sound like a child
bye the way, you double your previous ignorance saying "ants live peacefully".............ant society is more violent and then you can possibly imagine
Animals develop a balance with their natural surroundings and thrive on ingrained instincts and behavioural patterns. The more successful and resilient a species is, the more of it is found in more places. But they live for the sake of surviving long enough to reproduce, to make sure the species as a whole perpetuates. When they can't cope with the environmental conditions, they die out.I agree
Your saying ants live "peacefully" seems to imply that they choose a higher path morally / conceptually, out of the many choices they have, which is not true. They devote all their energy to doing whatever is needed to perpetuate their population. They are just as territorial as other insects or animals, and can be just as destructive in their own ways. They are not noble nor are they capable of conceptual ways of thinking.
Humans are animals biologically, but also much more than that. Our way of surviving is by manipulating the natural resources around us to further our cause and way / standard of living. Yes, we make tons of mistakes and will keep doing so, but that doesn't negate any of our achievements, from our understanding of all that we know so far to everything we've created, be it good or bad.
Technologically, we are in the adolescent stage of development, which is why things are so unstable. That doesn't mean that we aren't capable of improving. You can't look at a snapshot of a process (that evolves over millions of years) in a very early stage and conclude that the conditions at the time of observation will remain unchanged.
God is watching us from a distance.Slurp!!! ;D
Pedophillia and incest are rampant in christian households...discuss
But Ross Erstling is Jewish ???
The thing is God did save me. ;)
Same shit diffrent day :D
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no, you just were lucky..
why. i think most here agree with me.
no, you just were lucky..
Man of Steel's god talks to him through blood clots, you need to acquire a medical condition to understand, Tito. Isn't it comforting to know that god can arbitrarily prioritize your longevity over millions of others?Another poster suggested that at some point me and family would suffer and that he'd like to see God deliver me from that suffering. I immediately provided him a real live suffering example in which me and my family had been delivered from just weeks ago via the power of prayer and faith in God's love and grace. Prior to that I had been repeatedly insulted without retaliation on my part and after my story the insults increased dramatically with no negative response from me. I've challenged no one individually based on their beliefs just expressed my own beliefs a bit and spoke with a few other believers confirming a few things they said based on my own knowledge. If someone, believer or nonbeliever, asked me a question I tried best I could to respond honestly. Earlier in the thread I spoke about Hawking and imaginary numbers more directly and some posters didn't like that so I stopped. I then suggested that believers need to not insult or lash out at others nonbelievers and that believers need to strengthen their knowledge base at a bit. I've made comments about positions believers and nonbelievers take and repeated that debating God on Getbig is a pointless pursuit. That is the gist of everything I've said, but never once have I insulted or lashed out negatively at anyone (that I can recall); yet I'm continually insulted and put down I haven't told anyone what they belief is wrong either; in fact, I haven't debated at all. Just answered some questions I was able to answer....that's it. Yet every post is partially or fully attacked. Why is that?
Maybe I shouldn't say arbitrary, the believer is truly the one who's self importance is inflated - god really favors me over you, I am chosen and blessed. I have a purpose to live and do his work, you don't. Those are the ropes.
believers need to strengthen their knowledge base at a bit.
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Exactly, a believer especially should be versed in the more finite details and history of their own set of beliers in addition to the current scientific theory....that way you can understand the intersection of the two. I've been working on that for sometime now. Certainly the average person like myself won't master all these topics through and through, but you can't truly be informed about what you stand for unless you the understand the other side more completely. Essentially, putting it crudely, you need to understand not only the pro position (the one your support), but the con position (the one you don't support). Excellent suggestions.
Thanks. It's hard to make informed decisions with regards to this topic when one doesn't have, at the very least, a layman's understanding of the sciences.
I wonder if Hawking would trade all his knowledge for a 90 IQ and working body.
Thanks Godespecially for this one 8)
especially for this one 8)
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God is great*Post forwarded to CIS* ;D
*Post forwarded to CIS* ;D
/you've gone native, bro
Another poster suggested that at some point me and family would suffer and that he'd like to see God deliver me from that suffering. I immediately provided him a real live suffering example in which me and my family had been delivered from just weeks ago via the power of prayer and faith in God's love and grace. Prior to that I had been repeatedly insulted without retaliation on my part and after my story the insults increased dramatically with no negative response from me. I've challenged no one individually based on their beliefs just expressed my own beliefs a bit and spoke with a few other believers confirming a few things they said based on my own knowledge. If someone, believer or nonbeliever, asked me a question I tried best I could to respond honestly. Earlier in the thread I spoke about Hawking and imaginary numbers more directly and some posters didn't like that so I stopped. I then suggested that believers need to not insult or lash out at others nonbelievers and that believers need to strengthen their knowledge base at a bit. I've made comments about positions believers and nonbelievers take and repeated that debating God on Getbig is a pointless pursuit. That is the gist of everything I've said, but never once have I insulted or lashed out negatively at anyone (that I can recall); yet I'm continually insulted and put down I haven't told anyone what they belief is wrong either; in fact, I haven't debated at all. Just answered some questions I was able to answer....that's it. Yet every post is partially or fully attacked. Why is that?
especially for this one 8)
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You're one of the more intelligent posters here, steel. I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint - didn't mean to insult you. Peace.
(just see my post history)
God is greatGod is Great, God is Good, Thank Him for creating women to give me Wood!
Damn, post this bitches name IMMEDIATELY
mos, you also believe god sent the tsunami to punish the asian people because of tourists sexual activities?
especially for this one 8)
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Whores name please??God's Blessing, that's her government name, there is a stamp of approval right above her butt crack...it's The Devil's (proof postive that she was manufactured in Hell, specs were done in heaven---which is proof showing a collaboration between Heaven and Hell has existed)
God's Blessing, that's her government name, there is a stamp of approval right above her butt crack...it's The Devil's (proof postive that she was manufactured in Hell, specs were done in heaven---which is proof showing a collaboration between Heaven and Hell has existed)