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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 21, 2009, 03:04:43 PM
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
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Good luck for the show, Vince - may your thong reveal ripped glutes when you hitch them up onstage.
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Are you a pro??
Im new to this so havent heard of you,any pics man?
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the competition is no doubt shaking in their sequin thongs.
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Good luck vince, may the rippedness be with you this time. :)
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
Remember when that fuck face spit on you.
Man he's a douche bag. :-X
Good luck!
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what type of competition?
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what type of competition?
Cricket
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is he the bat or the stumps?
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Are you a pro??
Im new to this so havent heard of you,any pics man?
Prepare yourself. None of the current pros are in this guy's league. He's simply awesome.
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
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Prepare yourself. None of the current pros are in this guy's league. He's simply awesome.
Really??
Do you have a newsletter or something I can subscribe to Vince?
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Vince G, CSN MFT MD could tear out your endocrine system with one hand.
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Really??
Do you have a newsletter or something I can subscribe to Vince?
www.caliberfitness.com/newsletter
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150 cans of tuna = Munzer-like Conditioning
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Remember when that fuck face spit on you.
Man he's a douche bag. :-X
Good luck!
who spat on him?
i want to know so i can shake his hand.
:D rofl.
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melvin anthony.
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who spat on him?
i want to know so i can shake his hand.
:D rofl.
HAHAH
Either Billy Guns or Derek Anthony.
I forget lol
You might get Genital Herpes shaking DA's hand though. :-X
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www.caliberfitness.com/newsletter
No pics of you competing though Vince :'(
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Who gives a shit???????????? ::)
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who spat on him?
It was Derek Anthony.
The only ass you're going to kick, Vince, is your own.
You'll show up placing second, out of two people in your class. You might take the best glutes award though, if Vissy is the "head judge."
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What is CSN MFT??
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is queen vissy also a bodybuilder or only a fan?
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What is CSN MFT??
he goes under that codename in "the scene".
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No pics of you competing though Vince :'(
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Finally!
this will bring hours and hours of fun for getbig posting and looking at the pics
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Finally!
this will bring hours and hours of fun for getbig posting and looking at the pics
he will shut us up with his shape.
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The only competition Vince is going to compete in is to see how long he can handle having his tonsils punched by queen vissy.
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The only piece of equipment you have that is not 100% junk is that cheap little rip-off spin bike. Everything else is garbage....well it matches your physique...so....
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he will shut us up with his shape.
that would be something ;D
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150 cans of tuna = Munzer-like Conditioning
Youre a joke, Vince!!!
Good luck you loser! Youre going to need it!
I expect you to look like shit like you always do!!
Munzer like conditioning! Ha ha (give me a break!!)
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???
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Yes,best thread today!
Post pics of your Progress for us haaaaaha
;D
good luck
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I heard Vince has a deal with the promoter.
When he will get onstage they will close the light so people will only see his eyes and teeth.
this way nobody will see his horrible physique 8)
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I heard Vince has a deal with the promoter.
When he will get onstage they will close the light so people will only see his eyes and teeth.
this way nobody will see his horrible physique 8)
haha, yes Stavios.
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(http://www.obamaproxy.com/browse.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LmdldGJpZy5jb20vYm9hcmRzL2luZGV4LnBocD9hY3Rpb249ZGxhdHRhY2g7dG9waWM9MjY1NjEwLjA7YXR0YWNoPTMwNTcxMDtpbWFnZQ%3D%3D&b=15)
(http://www.obamaproxy.com/browse.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LmdldGJpZy5jb20vYm9hcmRzL2luZGV4LnBocD9hY3Rpb249ZGxhdHRhY2g7dG9waWM9MjY1NjEwLjA7YXR0YWNoPTMwNTcxMTtpbWFnZQ%3D%3D&b=15)
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is this the same guy who was over there at MD showing contest pictures with 20% bodyfat and no muscles what so ever
saying he was "holding water" ? ;D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
he got banned by John because he was saying how he trains athletes and was giving diet advice to Dave Palumbo
and Layne Norton ;D
what is the deal with this guy? is he an actual retard? ;D
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I remember the days when I could think of Vince at any time and burst out laughing.
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Laugh for now you shaved monkeys. The time has now come for me to show you kids a lesson in bodybuilding.
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Laugh for now you shaved monkeys. The time has now come for me to show you kids a lesson in bodybuilding.
Irony? Seriously though, good luck Vince.
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Look at the one arm bicep pic? Is that a chest implant?
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Laugh for now you shaved monkeys. The time has now come for me to show you kids a lesson in bodybuilding.
We, Muscle Mayhem, MD, and every other person on the internet, have been waiting for 5+ years.
And after this contest, we'll continue to have to wait.
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The lesson I'm learning is know when not to compete.
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What a mess.
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I hope you prove people wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Hey, Vince.
Could you post a pic of the bodybuilder that you think most matches your size, structure and conditioning?
Essentially, post what you see in the mirror.
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Hey, Vince.
Could you post a pic of the bodybuilder that you think most matches your size, structure and conditioning?
Essentially, post what you see in the mirror.
ooo this is a good post--I want to see a response out of this one
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:-[
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Are you a pro??
Im new to this so havent heard of you,any pics man?
You're gonna laugh your ass off! :D
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Laugh for now you shaved monkeys. The time has now come for me to show you kids a lesson in bodybuilding.
Lesson being : When you dont diet, train, and simply think your "internet status" should account for something; you will still look like warm shit from a dogs ass.
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No pics of you competing though Vince :'(
That's Vince on the first page. No joke!
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Hey Venom Vince, what's your stack gonna be like this time around??
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Hey, Vince.
Could you post a pic of the bodybuilder that you think most matches your size, structure and conditioning?
Essentially, post what you see in the mirror.
He has the same mirror as Assholelick and here is his newsletter. At least 2009 on Getbig will have some good Goodrum shit
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I thing is for sure....I will kick fuck ass.
Fixed
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
good luck vince
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HAHA this should keep getbig entertained with new pics for a while.
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Lesson being : When you dont diet, train, and simply think your "internet status" should account for something; you will still look like warm shit from a dogs ass.
lol ;D
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COCK SUCKING guy MOTHER FUKIN TURD
LOL
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Melvin, your Tom Foolery and antics were funny two years ago.
Get a life.
V/r
Wiggs
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I will kick ass.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Kick ass my ass!
Vince, you are going to lick ass!!
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This should make for hours of entertainment. Good luck Melvin.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=305762;image)
The pose of cancer?
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This needs to be a sticky so everyone can keep up with Vince's "progress."
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This needs to be a sticky so everyone can keep up with Vince's "progress."
GOOD DEAL,,,
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he will dedicate his new and improved shape to queen sissy this year.
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It was Derek Anthony.
The only ass you're going to kick, Vince, is your own.
You'll show up placing second, out of two people in your class. You might take the best glutes award though, if Vissy is the "head judge."
;D ;D
But seriously Vince, why didn't you buy a decent powerrack in stead of all those fancy machine equipment?
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Are those pics you Vince???
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Are those pics you Vince???
yes
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;D ;D
But seriously Vince, why didn't you buy a decent powerrack in stead of all those fancy machine equipment?
or buy the P90X and at least look ripped at 140 lbs
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i too am 3 months away from being onstage
....that is, if the economy picks up in 3 months
a recession kills the "entertainment" business
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yes
Well Vince you are a mentalist for even considering going up on stage and id hold off on doing so until they introduce bodybuilding to the special olympics
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bump the galactic absurdity.
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Laugh for now you shaved monkeys. The time has now come for me to show you kids a lesson in bodybuilding.
YOUR LESSON WOULD BE DONT BE LIKE ME AND YOU WILL DO WELL
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Boy, this should be an exciting year! Tiger Woods returning to the PGA tour, and Vince returning to the stage!
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we will eat our words when we see his new pictures.
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;D ;D
But seriously Vince, why didn't you buy a decent powerrack in stead of all those fancy machine equipment?
First off, I don't have to pay for equipment but I didn't get a Powerrack because I didn't have the room to put one in along with all the other essentials. The equipment I have is sufficient to getting the job done
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First off, I don't have to pay for equipment but I didn't get a Powerrack because I didn't have the room to put one in along with all the other essentials. The equipment I have is sufficient to getting the job done
How about Powerblocks.. these are real space saver ;D
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First off, I don't have to pay for equipment but I didn't get a Powerrack because I didn't have the room to put one in along with all the other essentials. The equipment I have is sufficient to getting the job done
Don't you live in the jungle?
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First off, I don't have to pay for equipment but I didn't get a Powerrack because I didn't have the room to put one in along with all the other essentials. The equipment I have is sufficient to getting the job done
so by saying "all i need to workout is go down the hall" you meant "all i have to do is fold up my bed and kitchen in my single wide and then i can do my workout"...Melvince?
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Don't you live in the jungle?
If by jungle you mean "lots of cocks everywhere to inhale" then yes.
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He lives in a trailer....down by the river.
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How about Powerblocks.. these are real space saver ;D
Body-Blox are much more sturdier and more easier to use plus they cost a lot less.
I did sell Powerblocks through a distributor called Corrective Wellness however Powerblocks has closed all distributor accounts and is now doing all of their sales directly. Really dumb idea because they'll end up spending more money for advertising and will lose ground to everyone else
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so by saying "all i need to workout is go down the hall" you meant "all i have to do is fold up my bed and kitchen in my single wide and then i can do my workout"...Melvince?
My home is pretty nice actually. 1200 square feet, 3 bedroom and 2 bath on 2.5 acres of private land. When I wake up and look out the door, its nothing but trees and mountains and an occasional deer. No noisy traffic, no crime, no crackheads, no noisy neighbors, no drunks or shit like I had when I was living in the city.
Even if I was living in a fold up house, the real value is peace and quiet I get every day I wake up and knowing that I don't even have to lock my doors at night.
Honestly, how much room does a person need anyway to live well? If you think you need a mansion with a moat surrounding it, then you're as dumb as I thought you are.
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Body-Blox are much more sturdier and more easier to use plus they cost a lot less.
I did sell Powerblocks through a distributor called Corrective Wellness however Powerblocks has closed all distributor accounts and is now doing all of their sales directly. Really dumb idea because they'll end up spending more money for advertising and will lose ground to everyone else
I thought you said you didn't have to pay for equipment
My home is pretty nice actually. 1200 square feet, 3 bedroom and 2 bath on 2.5 acres of private land. When I wake up and look out the door, its nothing but trees and mountains and an occasional deer. No noisy traffic, no crime, no crackheads, no noisy neighbors, no drunks or shit like I had when I was living in the city.
Even if I was living in a fold up house, the real value is peace and quiet I get every day I wake up and knowing that I don't even have to lock my doors at night.
Honestly, how much room does a person need anyway to live well? If you think you need a mansion with a moat surrounding it, then you're as dumb as I thought you are.
Yes I love the trees too
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I thought you said you didn't have to pay for equipment
Yes I love the trees too
I was referring to the cost being less to the customer. Equipment for business use is a tax write-off as I will be making video demonstrations and advertisements from the equipment.
You love the trees because you're an elephant and elephants like to eat leaves off trees.
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Vince---beyond our fighting on this board and other things I have a dead fukin serious question.
Are you in any way shape or form are you mentally handicapped, slow learning or neurologically impaired? Are you seeing a therapist and/or are you taking any medications for schizophrenia or other types of delusions?
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Vince---beyond our fighting on this board and other things I have a dead fukin serious question.
Are you in any way shape or form are you mentally handicapped, slow learning or neurologically impaired? Are you seeing a therapist and/or are you taking any medications for schizophrenia or other types of delusions?
Uhhh....do you honestly think he'd do this to himself if he were on medication? :-\
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Uhhh....do you honestly think he'd do this to himself if he were on medication? :-\
one of the things thats hard for me to understand is this--Im on meds, still fuck up here and there but am totally aware of it and try to work on it.
Is someone like Vince, who as you say is probably not on meds, so lost and believing in his own "world" unable to come to grips with reality. Is it like the question someone posed to him a while ago- post a pic of what body you see when you look in the mirror Vince---is he seeing lets say Flex Wheeler whiile we see how bad he really looks? Im super curious about this
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Vince---beyond our fighting on this board and other things I have a dead fukin serious question.
Are you in any way shape or form are you mentally handicapped, slow learning or neurologically impaired? Are you seeing a therapist and/or are you taking any medications for schizophrenia or other types of delusions?
No but you definitely are. I'm surprised you haven't killed yourself by the way you act around here. You are truly one pathetic soul and I feel sorry for you. Honestly, you really need to avoid posting on message boards as you are already have a very fragile state of mind.
And I don't fight with you. I simply ignore you as though you do not exist. I only responded to bring you some sort of relief that I actually know that you're still alive. Consider it an early Christmas gift
As far as me competing is concerned, I've gotten a lot of help from ALR regarding diet and supplementation so my game plan is much better than before. I will be putting up pictures soon so people will see that I'm not joking. I am fully capable of winning a show and all that needs to be done is to put everything together.
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No but you definitely are. I'm surprised you haven't killed yourself by the way you act around here. You are truly one pathetic soul and I feel sorry for you. Honestly, you really need to avoid posting on message boards as you are already have a very fragile state of mind.
As far as me competing is concerned, I've gotten a lot of help from ALR regarding diet and supplementation so my game plan is much better than before. I will be putting up pictures soon so people will see that I'm not joking. I am fully capable of winning a show and all that needs to be done is to put everything together.
well at least I am honest with myself about my shortcomings and issues I need to work on. You cant say that.
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well at least I am honest with myself about my shortcomings and issues I need to work on. You cant say that.
I'm not a drug addict and I don't go on bodybuilding.com telling people I'm a professional powerlifter that can bench 700 pounds.
And I don't have any issues. I have a wonderful fiance, a great business, and I enjoy life without using drugs like you do. Plus I'm not fat and squishy like you.
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I'm not a drug addict and I don't go on bodybuilding.com telling people I'm a professional powerlifter that can bench 700 pounds.
And I don't have any issues. I have a wonderful fiance, a great business, and I enjoy life without using drugs like you do. Plus I'm not fat and squishy like you.
your fiance is a man---case closed
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your fiance is a man---case closed
your fiance is a hand---case closed
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your fiance is a hand---case closed
somehow i think everyone on this board is gonna pick their own hand over a person of the same sex---day in and day out. A black delusional homosexual living in America--things cant be lookin to good for you.
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somehow i think everyone on this board is gonna pick their own hand over a person of the same sex---day in and day out. A black delusional homosexual living in America--things cant be lookin to good for you.
I'll let you go play pocket pool with yourself while I'm going to bed with the person I love and care about. I could care less about what anyone thinks.
A relationship is about two people, not everyone else. Goodnight lonely loser.
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My home is pretty nice actually. 1200 square feet, 3 bedroom and 2 bath on 2.5 acres of private land. When I wake up and look out the door, its nothing but trees and mountains and an occasional deer. No noisy traffic, no crime, no crackheads, no noisy neighbors, no drunks or shit like I had when I was living in the city.
Even if I was living in a fold up house, the real value is peace and quiet I get every day I wake up and knowing that I don't even have to lock my doors at night.
Honestly, how much room does a person need anyway to live well? If you think you need a mansion with a moat surrounding it, then you're as dumb as I thought you are.
Vince, did you ever train at Powerhouse in Mauldin, S.C. when Andy was the owner?
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Vince, have you ever trained?
Fixed
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Vince, did you ever train at Powerhouse in Mauldin, S.C. when Andy was the owner?
Yea, Andy was the owner at the time I trained there. Its been a while though
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Plus I'm not fat and squishy like you.
What do you call your physique from the Arnold? Wow...just plain wow. :o ???
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i think he shows potential, good natural base, will turn heads for sure.............
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What do you call your physique from the Arnold? Wow...just plain wow. :o ???
Money in the bank
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i think he shows potential, good natural base, will turn heads for sure.............
Haha, the guy looks like absolute dog shit.
Will turn heads for sure, and they'll be thinking wtf is this thing on stage :-X :-X
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the new york pro is in 3 months, sounds like triple V is going there to get his olympia qualification
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Money in the bank
Epic ability to actually answer the question
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Vince, in the pics people have posted in this thread, do you honestly think you look good?
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i think your all being harsh,,, good potential in the chest arms and legs,, credit where credits due...
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Yea, Andy was the owner at the time I trained there. Its been a while though
Did you ever train big with Big Jessie?
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Please
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1200 SQ ft,lol. Huge house.Must I remind everybody Vince did mention he lives in a mbolile home in a post about 2 weeks ago.
So Vince probably lives in a mobile home park
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Lights out lats
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God Vince I wish I had one of these when I was training for the Mr USA.God id I only had this I would have won the whole show
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Vince, I wish to god cardio was this easy.If you think this "bike' will get you lean enough to step on stage your dreaming.
I wish I just hop on the bike and get down to 4% bodyfat.Vince you cant get lean on the bike.You have to use the treadmill at a 6% grade at 3 -3.5 mph, StairMaster, or the Eliptiical, to get lean.Riding this silly bike, does not burn enough calories.Now and then, you can ride the bike for a change up.But anybodybuilder knows.You cannot get lean riding a bike.
Especially being as fat as you are.THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU WILL GET LEAN RIDING THIS SILLY BIKE VINCE,BEING AS FAT AND SMOOTH AS YOU ARE !!!!!!!
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HERE is a pic of Vince and "Queen Vissy" going for a lover ride
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SERIOUS QUESTIONS for Vince!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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a) Do you workout?
b) if so, how many times do you train a week/month ?
2. Where do you train?
3. what is your diet?
please answer :D
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SERIOUS QUESTIONS for Vince!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.
a) Do you workout?
b) if so, how many times do you train a week/month ?
2. Where do you train?
3. what is your diet?
please answer :D
These must be rhetorical questions ;D ;D
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still no sticky?
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bump for the single greatest delusionite in Getbig history.
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No but you definitely are. I'm surprised you haven't killed yourself by the way you act around here. You are truly one pathetic soul and I feel sorry for you. Honestly, you really need to avoid posting on message boards as you are already have a very fragile state of mind.
And I don't fight with you. I simply ignore you as though you do not exist. I only responded to bring you some sort of relief that I actually know that you're still alive. Consider it an early Christmas gift
As far as me competing is concerned, I've gotten a lot of help from ALR regarding diet and supplementation so my game plan is much better than before. I will be putting up pictures soon so people will see that I'm not joking. I am fully capable of winning a show and all that needs to be done is to put everything together.
Do you think you should actually put down some company and saying they are helping you. Did you read the fine print. I am sure it says not to tell anyone you are associated with them.
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maybe richard simmons will sponsor vince
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I swear that while reading this thread I laughed so hard I farted! Nothing like a serious Melvin Goodrum promising to compete in Munzer like condition to bring the house down.
We were wondering where Melvin had disappeared to. Now we know. He is living in bliss hidden away in the hillbilly hills of North Carolina. Lucky for him they tolerate his situation because that wasn't always so in the racist south.
I think our former Venom Vince Versace, who used to warm up the crowd at local wrestling shows and got showered with cans and rubbish, tripped on that soda bottle while going up the stairs at that Prepaid Legal Convention and hasn't been the same since. The dude used to have a thriving business and a gym membership. Since his fall he has used Pilates machines and perhaps just pushups because he presented at his last public display causing hoots of laughter from all and sundry.
Can we expect a transformed Melvin Goodrum? Nope. He has gone online to get various certificates in personal training and nutrition but still needs the advice of supplement companies to know what to do. This guy is an original and no amount of advices will dent that thick hide. We will see more of the same because what he sees in the mirror is not what we see on stage. Truly, there has never been another like our Vince Goodrum. We were proud of his last success in academia when he finally earned his coveted PhD degree in metaphysics. We wonder if he even knows what that discipline is? Some say he merely donated money to some obscure religious order to get his degree. No matter because Vince promised us he was working on another doctorate that required a thesis. Yeah, sure.
So, we await the predictable hype and amusing photos. We await his soon to be published 'Goodrum's Guide to Trademark Calves'! This guy is a net legend and hero for sure.
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Did Goodrum say Munzer condition or Munster condition
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Just when we thought Melvin wised up and stopped posting here we are treated with a classic 'I'll show them!' post.
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all things aside, did that tool Silly Buns apply a fake tan to compete against vince at an expo?
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Only in BB. :'(
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Nice.
Where did you find that site? Caliberfitness looks like they have some good stuff, how do i order?
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Nice.
Where did you find that site? Caliberfitness looks like they have some good stuff, how do i order?
They don't.
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Too bad Vince no longer has the Magic Stick in his arsenal. If he did, look out Nationals!
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Too bad Vince no longer has the Magic Stick in his arsenal. If he did, look out Nationals!
Now he has Queen Vissy's stick in his assinal.
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I think his girls name is Dee.....DEE LUSIONAL! ;D
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Did you ever train big with Big Jessie?
The name sounds familiar but I train solo unless I need a spot or something.
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1200 SQ ft,lol. Huge house.Must I remind everybody Vince did mention he lives in a mbolile home in a post about 2 weeks ago.
So Vince probably lives in a mobile home park
2.5 acres of land. Its means no-one else is around...... ::)
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Vince is going to do really well, to bad you guys can see his potential, he just needs to dial it in a little better.
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Vince, I wish to god cardio was this easy.If you think this "bike' will get you lean enough to step on stage your dreaming.
I wish I just hop on the bike and get down to 4% bodyfat.Vince you cant get lean on the bike.You have to use the treadmill at a 6% grade at 3 -3.5 mph, StairMaster, or the Eliptiical, to get lean.Riding this silly bike, does not burn enough calories.Now and then, you can ride the bike for a change up.But anybodybuilder knows.You cannot get lean riding a bike.
Especially being as fat as you are.THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU WILL GET LEAN RIDING THIS SILLY BIKE VINCE,BEING AS FAT AND SMOOTH AS YOU ARE !!!!!!!
The Total trainer machine converts to a rowing machine. I'll be fine
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See he has thought this all out.
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God Vince I wish I had one of these when I was training for the Mr USA.God id I only had this I would have won the whole show
Looks can be deceiving. This machine can do a lot more than you think. If you think its a Total Gym machine, you're sadly mistaken.
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Vince do you need help prepping for the show?
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I swear that while reading this thread I laughed so hard I farted! Nothing like a serious Melvin Goodrum promising to compete in Munzer like condition to bring the house down.
We were wondering where Melvin had disappeared to. Now we know. He is living in bliss hidden away in the hillbilly hills of North Carolina. Lucky for him they tolerate his situation because that wasn't always so in the racist south.
I think our former Venom Vince Versace, who used to warm up the crowd at local wrestling shows and got showered with cans and rubbish, tripped on that soda bottle while going up the stairs at that Prepaid Legal Convention and hasn't been the same since. The dude used to have a thriving business and a gym membership. Since his fall he has used Pilates machines and perhaps just pushups because he presented at his last public display causing hoots of laughter from all and sundry.
Can we expect a transformed Melvin Goodrum? Nope. He has gone online to get various certificates in personal training and nutrition but still needs the advice of supplement companies to know what to do. This guy is an original and no amount of advices will dent that thick hide. We will see more of the same because what he sees in the mirror is not what we see on stage. Truly, there has never been another like our Vince Goodrum. We were proud of his last success in academia when he finally earned his coveted PhD degree in metaphysics. We wonder if he even knows what that discipline is? Some say he merely donated money to some obscure religious order to get his degree. No matter because Vince promised us he was working on another doctorate that required a thesis. Yeah, sure.
So, we await the predictable hype and amusing photos. We await his soon to be published 'Goodrum's Guide to Trademark Calves'! This guy is a net legend and hero for sure.
You're still alive?????
For your information, getting advice from a natural pros is a smart way of going about doing bodybuilding shows. While I'm a great personal trainer and nutritionist, it doesn't quantify into being a contest prep coach. If you don't know something, then ask for help and put your personal pride to the side.
As far as my business is concerned, its still thriving and growing. And while I no longer have a gym membership, I don't need one know that I have a fully equipped one at home.
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post up some training clips vince.
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I would like to thank who came up with this gimmick. seriously, when i am down in the dumps, "vince" cracks me up!!! if you notice he says this shit every 6 months or so. The pictures of some black dude who is a terrible bodybuilder makes this almost real. Anyway keep up the good work making this shit up, I love it!!!
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The name sounds familiar but I train solo unless I need a spot or something.
Jessie Squires who lost to Chick and King Kamali in the nationals. Big Jess is a legend in S.C.
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Good luck Vince !! Hopefeully you'll be able to break the magical 20% bodyfat barrier this time! ::)
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Vince do you need help prepping for the show?
He needs this
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post up some training clips vince.
This is one with Queer Vissy
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He needs this
Thats a waste of a totally good bullet
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Thats a waste of a totally good bullet
Well maybe someone could hit him in the head with the butt of it then.
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Is Vince a real person??
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Is Vince a real person??
sadly yes >:(
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Jessie Squires who lost to Chick and King Kamali in the nationals. Big Jess is a legend in S.C.
Oh yea now I know who you're talking about, I don't think he's at Powerhouse anymore but its been a while since I've been there. That Powerhouse gym in Maudlin was going down the hill last time I was there. Its a great gym but the problem is that they don't know how to advertise it properly.
Honestly, I would drop the franchise name and use that extra money to do local advertising.
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The best you can find on web? Vince if you want people to buy from you smarten up a little ::)
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sadly yes >:(
He obviously has a touch of 'the Downs'
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The best you can find on web? Vince if you want people to buy from you smarten up a little ::)
Graphics don't sell products. Competitive pricing, customer service,advertising, and repeat customers do. And after 8 years, I'm doing pretty well in that arena and I definitely don't need advice from you
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Vince,any tips on getting big arms??
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He obviously has a touch of 'the Downs'
got a touch of the ups, the lefts, and the rights too ;D
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Why do blacks sing along with beyonce's song 'to the left,to the left'????
Cos they got no rights...oh yeah
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Oh yea now I know who you're talking about, I don't think he's at Powerhouse anymore but its been a while since I've been there. That Powerhouse gym in Maudlin was going down the hill last time I was there. Its a great gym but the problem is that they don't know how to advertise it properly.
Honestly, I would drop the franchise name and use that extra money to do local advertising.
Sadly, both of Andy's gym went down because he did not know how to advertise and he had no communication skills. The last time i was in S.C. it was called something fitness but i have a buddy who runs that car lot right across the street of that gym.
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Sadly, both of Andy's gym went down because he did not know how to advertise and he had no communication skills. The last time i was in S.C. it was called something fitness but i have a buddy who runs that car lot right across the street of that gym.
Doesn't surprise me. Those franchise fees can kill you and didn't generate any extra business for him.
Franchises work for burgers and fried chicken but not for gyms. Its better to give your own gym an independent name and keep the money for yourself
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Graphics don't sell products. Competitive pricing, customer service,advertising, and repeat customers do. And after 8 years, I'm doing pretty well in that arena and I definitely don't need advice from you
Vincent I wasn't talking about graphic I'm talking about the grammer, best you can find on web? WTF kinda english is that?
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Doesn't surprise me. Those franchise fees can kill you and didn't generate any extra business for him.
Franchises work for burgers and fried chicken but not for gyms. Its better to give your own gym an independent name and keep the money for yourself
Andy also lost the one in Greer or Gaffney...been along time since i was in that state. The last time i was in state was to get my money from a lawsuit. There was another owner who drove a yellow hummer but i cannot remember his name but he had "People Skills" and he had three or four Mortgage company's.
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Vincent I wasn't talking about graphic I'm talking about the grammer, best you can find on web? WTF kinda english is that?
English....and does it matter????.....nope.
Its all about advertising. For example, type in Turbo Spa in Google and see what you find
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English....and does it matter????.....nope.
Its all about advertising. For example, type in Turbo Spa in Google and see what you find
Actually, it does. Whenever I come across a website that has incorrect grammar or spelling mistakes it cries "unprofessional," "uneducated," and "very small operation."
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English....and does it matter????.....nope.
Its all about advertising. For example, type in Turbo Spa in Google and see what you find
So I did, Turbo spa and no caliberfittness to be seen - Vincent just because you're queer doesn't mean you're clever, you know shit about internet advertisement I recommend you all you can about web SEO and so forth start here that gives you the absolute basic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization
AND I find it hilarious that you say grammer is not important lol especially when it's a GRAPHIC LOGO OF YOUR COMPANY LOOOOOOL representing your company hahaha
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Actually, it does. Whenever I come across a website that has incorrect grammar or spelling mistakes it cries "unprofessional," "uneducated," and "very small operation."
there you go vince - now hurry and change that logo ::)
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So I did, Turbo spa and no caliberfittness to be seen - Vincent just because you're queer doesn't mean you're clever, you know shit about internet advertisement I recommend you all you can about web SEO and so forth start here that gives you the absolute basic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization
AND I find it hilarious that you say grammer is not important lol especially when it's a GRAPHIC LOGO OF YOUR COMPANY LOOOOOOL representing your company hahaha
You don't have the google enhancements for shopping so you'll need to go to Froogle.
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Oh and we can go like that Vince if you want to argue with me
Your page has an ALexa ranking of 7 Million
My little pitty fucking page lol has over 3k unique useres per day generats more than than 150k page views a month (and let me tell you that is nothing) has an alex ranking of 200.000 and I HAVENT DONE FUCK ALL ADVERTISMENT
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Vince,any tips on getting big arms??
bump for answer.
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You don't have the google enhancements for shopping so you'll need to go to Froogle.
hahahaha great business man ::) I don't have WHAT? google enhancement? so does a million and million of other users ::)
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Doesn't surprise me. Those franchise fees can kill you and didn't generate any extra business for him.
Franchises work for burgers and fried chicken but not for gyms. Its better to give your own gym an independent name and keep the money for yourself
Very bad advice. The small mom and pop gyms are not surviving whereever there is any kind of franchised gym or large corporate gym. Mom and pop gyms just do not get the kind of brand awareness. Franchise fees can kill you if too high. But, you can work out fees where they don't hurt you so bad. Plus, you have the advantage of being able to go to other gyms within the group for either free or reduced price. Plus, you get a lot better pricing for equipment and gym services when you have a franchise behind you. Vince, stick with looking like you do and acting the way you do. you are good at that. By the way Powerhouse FF are not that high. Maybe your buddy (i doubt you actually know him) needs to work on local marketing and promotion and spend less on the advertising.
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He obviously has a touch of 'the Downs'
THAT'S IT--I couldnt put my finger on it. Look at his face. Vince has a level of Downs Syndrome. Thats why he is so messed up.
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got a touch of the ups, the lefts, and the rights too ;D
Now that is fucking funny as shit.
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Well maybe someone could hit him in the head with the butt of it then.
& totally ruin it by staining it w/Jeri-curl? No, has to be a better way.
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Oh and we can go like that Vince if you want to argue with me
Your page has an ALexa ranking of 7 Million
My little pitty fucking page lol has over 3k unique useres per day generats more than than 150k page views a month (and let me tell you that is nothing) has an alex ranking of 200.000 and I HAVENT DONE FUCK ALL ADVERTISMENT
Really??? so what's your website Mr Milionaire.... ::)???
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You know whats funny is Goodrum's website talks all this bullshit and has "The Leader of Human Evolution" as a tagline. And in his "Links" section he DOES NOT put Getbig, MD or BB.com as links. Could it be because he doesn't want anyone to know what he really looks like and what people "in the know" really think about him. And I hate templates.
& totally ruin it by staining it w/Jeri-curl? No, has to be a better way.
Damm it you are right. How about this,
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gymstories.com
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gymstories.com
www.apacheclips.com hahahah and I'm not the one selling shit nobody wants ::)
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looks good stark. something like liveleak?
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Very bad advice. The small mom and pop gyms are not surviving whereever there is any kind of franchised gym or large corporate gym. Mom and pop gyms just do not get the kind of brand awareness. Franchise fees can kill you if too high. But, you can work out fees where they don't hurt you so bad. Plus, you have the advantage of being able to go to other gyms within the group for either free or reduced price. Plus, you get a lot better pricing for equipment and gym services when you have a franchise behind you. Vince, stick with looking like you do and acting the way you do. you are good at that. By the way Powerhouse FF are not that high. Maybe your buddy (i doubt you actually know him) needs to work on local marketing and promotion and spend less on the advertising.
Mauldin, SC is a small town and the residents could give two shits about the name Gold's or Powerhouse or Planet Fitness. So having the franchise name is useless. If it was a bigger city, then it would be beneficial but not in a small town.
The extra money he was spending on franchise fees could have been put to local advertising and better equipment.
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HOLY SHIT check out this on BB.com Vince is 9% bodyfat????????
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/)
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www.apacheclips.com hahahah and I'm not the one selling shit nobody wants ::)
You're not selling shit at all or making any money. And this is just another liveleak collegehumor site....big whoop.
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www.apacheclips.com hahahah and I'm not the one selling shit nobody wants ::)
lololol at "who farted in here" video. Thats not water,,,,,,thats a river, whats in a river? Im out there getting shot at and you're in here farting in the humvee---"It's what I do best" Ohoh, theres shit in my pants. ahahahah great stuff
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HOLY SHIT check out this on BB.com Vince is 9% bodyfat????????
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/)
Real Name: Melvin Z. Goodrum
Sex: Male
Age: 31
Location: Sylva, North Carolina, United States
Occupation: Personal Trainer, Nutritionist, & Owner of Caliber Fitness Solutions
Personal Website: http://www.caliberfitness.com
Gym: Iron Mountain Gym
Gym Location: Sylva, NC
When I Started: 1994
How I Started: High School. Took Advanced Physical Fitness to get into shape for service in the United States Army
Why I Love It: WhenI was in the military, doing security work or working as correctional officer, I needed to stay in top shape for my personal safety
How I Stay Motivated: The mirror is a powerful tool
BB Accomplishments: 2nd Place at the NPC Mountaineer
Forum Signature: Never believe what someone says, believe what someone does.....
Caliber Fitness Solutions
The Leader in Human Evolution since 2001
http://www.caliberfitness.com
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hahahah what a homo
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How I Stay Motivated: The mirror is a powerful tool
BB Accomplishments: 2nd Place at the NPC Mountaineer
Forum Signature: Never believe what someone says, believe what someone does.....
apparently your mirror lies its ass off
subscript--2nd out of 2 competitors
Height:
5'11.0" (1.80 m)
Waist:
32" (81.28 cm)
Weight:
195 lb (88.6 kg)
Thighs:
Bodyfat:
9.0 %
Calves:
Chest:
Forearms:
Arms:
19" (48.26 cm)
Shoulders:
Hips:
Neck:
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Mauldin, SC is a small town and the residents could give two shits about the name Gold's or Powerhouse or Planet Fitness. So having the franchise name is useless. If it was a bigger city, then it would be beneficial but not in a small town.
The extra money he was spending on franchise fees could have been put to local advertising and better equipment.
So what you are saying is nobody travels from that town. Or when they do they never train outside of their hometown. Obviously the owner thought it was a great idea to have a brandname since that is what he opened originally. How many years has he been in business? There are towns smaller than that with franchised gyms. Could it be that this town is filled with your relatives and they don't know any better.
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I knew ONLYME wouldn't be able to resist a little Goodrum bashing by coming in here and making reference to the fact that Goodrum resembles that of a monkey.
Horrible ONLYME...
"1"
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(Estimated One Rep Max)
Bench:
395 lb (179.5 kg)
Squat:
600 lb (272.7 kg)
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hahahah im calling bullshit
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I knew ONLYME wouldn't be able to resist a little Goodrum bashing by coming in here and making reference to the fact that Goodrum resembles that of a monkey.
Horrible ONLYME...
"1"
dont insult monkeys ;D Keith does sterling work here keeping Vince Cockinbum under control, otherwise he'd spam all of getbig with caliburshitness
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HOLY SHIT check out this on BB.com Vince is 9% bodyfat????????
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/)
Hate to know yours Porky
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Hate to know yours Porky
Odd thing is that he's not CLAIMING to be 9%.
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CSN = cock swallowing nobody
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So what you are saying is nobody travels from that town. Or when they do they never train outside of their hometown. Obviously the owner thought it was a great idea to have a brandname since that is what he opened originally. How many years has he been in business? There are towns smaller than that with franchised gyms. Could it be that this town is filled with your relatives and they don't know any better.
That's the point...he opened two Powerhouses and they ARE NOW CLOSED
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Odd thing is that he's not CLAIMING to be 9%.
Because he's 100% fat. No precentage nesessary... ;D.
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Hate to know yours Porky
Huge difference is I admit I am fat and out of shape. You on the other hand try (and fail) to convince us you are in shape when in fact you have never in your life been in shape at all. You lie on your website and are giving out false information and misleading people (who don't know you) that you are someone you are not. Huge difference there boy. I am about as far from being delusional as you can get. I know my problem and I know I look like shit now. But, you continue to look like shit and feed everyone bullshit.
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Because he's 100% fat. No precentage nesessary... ;D.
You know what as shitty as I look now I would no way in the world would ever want to look like you or lead the life you lead or have lead. I wouldn't change places with you for anything.
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Keith dont be so hard on yourself about how look, you were a champion in your sport, vince cockinbum came last place in every contest, he only got 2nd cos only 2 people entered
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You're not selling shit at all or making any money. And this is just another liveleak collegehumor site....big whoop.
hahah far from it :D
There is litterlay none page out there like AC ;) none that is updated on a daily basis, and want to be like liveleak? guy please ::)
Seriouly i know more about liveleak what they paid for ogrish who owns the ogrish network and so forth ::).
And yes I don't sell ANYTHING thats the whole point :D :D my page has like a gazillion more hits than yours and your the one trying desperatly to make a living of your page ::)
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Mauldin, SC is a small town and the residents could give two shits about the name Gold's or Powerhouse or Planet Fitness. So having the franchise name is useless. If it was a bigger city, then it would be beneficial but not in a small town.
The extra money he was spending on franchise fees could have been put to local advertising and better equipment.
True about Mauldin, S.C. being a small town. Andy did not give a damn about advertising and if i remember the other co-owner was really pissed with Andy because he had no people skills and that killed both of their gyms. Andy was willing to work with students and the people that lived in Mauldin, S.C. and he let some of the "bigger guys" train for free. I lived in Pelzer, S.C. and i use to drive all the way to Mauldin, S.C. to train there because it was a great gym and had great equipment. The equipment was not something like Ballys or Lifestyles Family Fitness but who wants that crap. Andy higherd people who knew nothing about bodybuilding, nutrution or proper exercise.
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I would love to see a poll on whos life would you rather have, onlyme's or Vinces---I for one would be shocked if there was a single vote for Vince. Keith has had a cool and interesting life.
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I would love to see a poll on whos life would you rather have, onlyme's or Vinces---I for one would be shocked if there was a single vote for Vince. Keith has had a cool and interesting life.
I be 10x fatter than Keith and still would addore his life before vincents ::)
Lets see
Black, gay and in denial with yourself, bad business man, not smart
vs.
Fat Mexican, well known, future gym owner, and good business man
yeah you really need to be a nazi rocket scientist to figure that shit out ::)
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I be 10x fatter than Keith and still would addore his life before vincents ::)
Lets see
Black, gay and in denial with yourself, bad business man, not smart
vs.
Fat Mexican, well known, future gym owner, and good business man
yeah you really need to be a nazi rocket scientist to figure that shit out ::)
well at least you were nice enough to go easy on him
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Very bad advice. The small mom and pop gyms are not surviving whereever there is any kind of franchised gym or large corporate gym. Mom and pop gyms just do not get the kind of brand awareness. Franchise fees can kill you if too high. But, you can work out fees where they don't hurt you so bad. Plus, you have the advantage of being able to go to other gyms within the group for either free or reduced price. Plus, you get a lot better pricing for equipment and gym services when you have a franchise behind you. Vince, stick with looking like you do and acting the way you do. you are good at that. By the way Powerhouse FF are not that high. Maybe your buddy (i doubt you actually know him) needs to work on local marketing and promotion and spend less on the advertising.
Franchise is a waste of money, I have competed againt them for 20 years and make a good bit of money, I have 3 franchise gyms withing 3 miles of me. Vince is actually right on this.
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Because he's 100% fat. No precentage nesessary... ;D.
I dont know about precentages....but yours is NOT, nor ever WILL BE, 9%
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I be 10x fatter than Keith and still would addore his life before vincents ::)
Lets see
Black, gay and in denial with yourself, bad business man, not smart
vs.
Fat Mexican, well known, future gym owner, and good business man
yeah you really need to be a nazi rocket scientist to figure that shit out ::)
Hey I am Filipino, German and Irish. I only eat mexican
Franchise is a waste of money, I have competed againt them for 20 years and make a good bit of money, I have 3 franchise gyms withing 3 miles of me. Vince is actually right on this.
They are only a waste in a small town. All independants get taken over by franchised or corporates gyms in a medium to large city. There will always be a niche for the small gym but that is very small. The thing that is killing gyms like gold's is the outrageous fees now and monthly spiffs. When I had it, it was a flat fee of $12,000 a year. If you are a gym owner and can't afford that then you really shouldn't be in business. I have only lived in Vacation destinations throughout my life so having a franchised gym is something very advantageous. We made anywhere from $2,000 to $8,000 a day from traveling members at Gold's in Honolulu. People spends lots of money on Gold's Gym brandname items. Nobody spends on an independants brandname.
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Portland Oregon is a small town?
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Talking about gimmicks. There is one thing that doesn't seem right with the Vince Goodrum CSN MFT character. I will post a few different photos of this dude and you tell me if this is the same guy. I think we are being had here.
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A few more images to compare.
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Why do blacks sing along with beyonce's song 'to the left,to the left'????
Cos they got no rights...oh yeah
;D
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A few more!
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Does his wife know he goes out in public like that???
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Vince, honest question for you.
If you had some of your contest pictures on the caliber fitness homepage, do you think it would increase or decrease sales?
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I never know whether to take this guy seriously or not. It's like the greatest gimmick ever - gay, delusional, trailer dwelling, looks terrible and runs a fitness site. Will we one day find it it's a guy with a great sense of humor having the longest joke in getbig history?
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Portland Oregon is a small town?
Your gym is not the norm. It is a industry fact that single owned gyms and smaller facilities do not survive the franchised or corporate gyms. It is great you can survive them. Is your gym a typical gym or do you specialize in something.
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Does his wife know he goes out in public like that???
He is gay as hell and has a pale white boyfriend.
Here are few more pics that Basile forgot to post of Vince
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LMAO Onlyme you are a Funny Guy you forgot the one of the Turd in the toilet.His wife is a vissy isn't it??
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Theres three non corporate gyms just in SE Portland that are going great and we have more corporate gyms per capita than anyone, its not hard to beat a corporate gym.
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Talking about gimmicks. There is one thing that doesn't seem right with the Vince Goodrum CSN MFT character. I will post a few different photos of this dude and you tell me if this is the same guy. I think we are being had here.
interesting theory Vince, please post more on this
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interesting theory Vince, please post more on this
it was proven time and time again that Vince is real. 2 Real.
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I'm not making fun of you Vince, but why does your body look so soft?
I mean fatter people don't even look that soft. ???
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I'm not making fun of you Vince,
Why the hell not?
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Why the hell not?
;D
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I'm not making fun of you Vince, but why does your body look so soft?
I mean fatter people don't even look that soft. ???
here i am at 400 twice the weight of goodrum. i am fat but not as soft as he is
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Talking about gimmicks. There is one thing that doesn't seem right with the Vince Goodrum CSN MFT character. I will post a few different photos of this dude and you tell me if this is the same guy. I think we are being had here.
Damn, at first glance the top pic looks like two eyes and a tie floating there, then you notice the turd that they are affixed to. :-X
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Hey I am Filipino, German and Irish.
You were born in three different countries ? :o :o Damn you are fat.
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The studio photos taken by Collard don't seem to be the same guy as most of the other photos. Maybe Melvin has a mate he uses to enter those contests? I mean, Vince G is no fool and debates with everyone here. It is just that the images don't seem to be the same guy. Maybe he found a sucker who looks like him and got him to enter those hillbilly contests?
You know, Melvin used to be a highly motivated dude. He had lots of businesses going on the net. However, once he found his tooth fairy he has retired to a country estate far away from nosy neighbours. How long can Melvin tolerate obscurity? Answer: about two months. Then he posts here of his Walter Mitty plans to take over the world.
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The studio photos taken by Collard don't seem to be the same guy as most of the other photos. Maybe Melvin has a mate he uses to enter those contests? I mean, Vince G is no fool and debates with everyone here. It is just that the images don't seem to be the same guy. Maybe he found a sucker who looks like him and got him to enter those hillbilly contests?
You know, Melvin used to be a highly motivated dude. He had lots of businesses going on the net. However, once he found his tooth fairy he has retired to a country estate far away from nosy neighbours. How long can Melvin tolerate obscurity? Answer: about two months. Then he posts here of his Walter Mitty plans to take over the world.
Can you tell me who this person is? Is this part of a comedy sketch?
Like the clueless competitor kind of thing? I don't get the whole thing, that thing has no right to step foot on a bodybuilding stage.
OX
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A few more!
This person went to a studio to take pictures of that physique? It's clowns like this who give bodybuilding a bad name.
OX
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Can you tell me who this person is? Is this part of a comedy sketch?
Like the clueless competitor kind of thing? I don't get the whole thing, that thing has no right to step foot on a bodybuilding stage.
OX
Turdrum is the original clueless competitor ;D
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Had some fun on myheritage.com.
Here is the result.
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Turdrum is the original clueless competitor ;D
What is the story behind this guy?
I'm sure it will give me alot of laughs.
OX
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What is the story behind this guy?
I'm sure it will give me alot of laughs.
OX
delusional, awful physique, homosexual, hillbilly, owner of caliburshitness.com, getbig laughing stock ;D
Vince Basile and Keith can give you the details of this guy ;D
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delusional, awful physique, homosexual, hillbilly, owner of caliburshitness.com, getbig laughing stock ;D
Vince Basile and Keith can give you the details of this guy ;D
lol nice sum of all things ;D
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Look, folks, Melvin Goodrum represents the wannabe and dreamer in all of us. Anyone who trains and gets reasonably large arms considers himself a bodybuilding expert and Melvin is no exception. So he belongs on Getbig and used to have more respect and authority when he posted. Someone insisted he post a photo of himself and we have all been amused ever since. The guy probably looks better than some of us has-beens and overweight guys but he is nowhere near what is respected for contest bodybuilders. Melvin obtained on line certificates and that is what those letters stand for after his Vince G handle. He calls himself Vince because he claimed he once wrestled as 'Venom Vince Versace', although there is no evidence he actually stepped in the ring. The dude was used to warm up wrestling audiences and was so effective that people threw soda bottles at him and some wrestlers hated him! So Melvin is a good talker.
He has always envied those of us with academic qualifications so found a remote religious college that granted him a PhD in exchange for a donation. Gotta love a guy who will find a shortcut instead of actually attending college and earning a degree.
Melvin had all manner of grandiose plans re a clinic or personal training studio. He swore his bank manager was licking his chops in anticipation of his getting a government loan given to minorities. Last year Melvin announced he was getting married in the fall but Keith discovered his profile on line and his relationship with a bloke in NC. Did this stop our internet legend from continuing to post on Getbig. Not at all. However, he hasn't posted as much as in previous years so we wonder how retirement is for Melvin.
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:o The problem here is Vince cant stick to a contest diet, because he loves Twinkies,lol.Queen Vissies tweenky, the banana cream flavored
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Hey I am Filipino, German and Irish. I only eat mexican
My bad
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Do you purposely start threads on Getbig just to brag to your friends? I bet you say shit like " Yeah I am the most popular guy on that website" Do you ever tell them that your threads turn into 10+ pages of people making fun of you or just lie and say they all compliment you?
I am serious here, there has to be a reason why you start this " I'll be competing thread" EVERY F-IN season ::)
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Do you purposely start threads on Getbig just to brag to your friends? I bet you say shit like " Yeah I am the most popular guy on that website" Do you ever tell them that your threads turn into 10+ pages of people making fun of you or just lie and say they all compliment you?
I am serious here, there has to be a reason why you start this " I'll be competing thread" EVERY F-IN season ::)
Vince is well known in the bathhouses of Sylva, NC.
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Vince is well known in the bathhouses of Sylva, NC.
Are you implying that Vince invented the reach around?? ;D
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queen sissy does his marketing.
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strength of a savanna biped
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Do you purposely start threads on Getbig just to brag to your friends? I bet you say shit like " Yeah I am the most popular guy on that website" Do you ever tell them that your threads turn into 10+ pages of people making fun of you or just lie and say they all compliment you?
I am serious here, there has to be a reason why you start this " I'll be competing thread" EVERY F-IN season ::)
Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
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Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
the abuse you get in everyday life is not enough, you have to come and stoke the getbig fires for motivation?
I think you are just a masochist.
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True about Mauldin, S.C. being a small town. Andy did not give a damn about advertising and if i remember the other co-owner was really pissed with Andy because he had no people skills and that killed both of their gyms. Andy was willing to work with students and the people that lived in Mauldin, S.C. and he let some of the "bigger guys" train for free. I lived in Pelzer, S.C. and i use to drive all the way to Mauldin, S.C. to train there because it was a great gym and had great equipment. The equipment was not something like Ballys or Lifestyles Family Fitness but who wants that crap. Andy higherd people who knew nothing about bodybuilding, nutrution or proper exercise.
Andy was a good guy and me and him were always cool. He just spent too much time hooking his friends up with free memberships and jobs. However, the co-owner was AWOL a lot of the time and I rarely seen him...in fact I can't remember his name, just his face. That's just how much he didn't check up on the gyms.
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Vince, honest question for you.
If you had some of your contest pictures on the caliber fitness homepage, do you think it would increase or decrease sales?
Vince?
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Franchise is a waste of money, I have competed againt them for 20 years and make a good bit of money, I have 3 franchise gyms withing 3 miles of me. Vince is actually right on this.
True on that. I'd never open a franchise gym because you'll have more resources to promote your own.
For example, the biggest and most popular centers in Greenville, SC is Sports Club and they're not a franchise at all. Everyone goes to their gyms and they pretty much destroyed Golds, Powerhouse, Planet Fitness, and every other gym around.
http://www.sportsclubsc.com/
I personally think however that the future is in personal training studios. I've even put together a studio design that would fit in a 14x20 sq feet space with reception desk and equipment for under $15,000. A lot of people want more personalized training and are willing to pay for it
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Vince?
It would not make a difference because people only care about the product and price
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This person went to a studio to take pictures of that physique? It's clowns like this who give bodybuilding a bad name.
OX
When you compete, a studio photograher takes the pictures after you leave the stage..... ::)
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True on that. I'd never open a franchise gym because you'll have more resources to promote your own.
For example, the biggest and most popular centers in Greenville, SC is Sports Club and they're not a franchise at all. Everyone goes to their gyms and they pretty much destroyed Golds, Powerhouse, Planet Fitness, and every other gym around.
http://www.sportsclubsc.com/
I personally think however that the future is in personal training studios. I've even put together a studio design that would fit in a 14x20 sq feet space with reception desk and equipment for under $15,000. A lot of people want more personalized training and are willing to pay for it
yes, i'm sure their dreams of one day having a physique identical to yours will have them coming to you in droves.
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It would not make a difference because people only care about the product and price
If it wouldn't make a difference then why do the majority of supplement, training, equipment suppliers use models on their websites? They do it to make people think that by buying their products, then they can look like that as well. It's the same as the big supplement companies using the top Pro's in their adverts. Buy Product X, you too could look like Ronnie.
So, back to my question, if you put your contest pics on your website, would that inspire people to want to look like you, and therefore, buy your products?
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Those pics Patrick C. took take the cake. How in the hell could you let yourself be photographed let alone walk on stage like that? You mean all the training & "dieting" you did or done or supposedly done, & this is your best? If I looked like that I would NEVER be photographed without the baggiest of sweats or cloths. Vince you may want to save some $$ & take a ride to Charlotte or Atlanta & see a plastic surgeon to help you & I'm being honest. So much for the "theory" of brothers having more test naturally.
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When you compete, a studio photograher takes the pictures after you leave the stage..... ::)
Yes, but never seen they with "Patrik Studios" all over them and taken of a man who has no business with his shirt off.
I compete myself and have for a long time.
why do you step on the stage? You obviously have no muscles and you have jelly rolls on stage, you give bodybuilding a bad name
and from the looks of it, you are the laughing stock of the internet.
Nice abs and thigh pose, I counted 6 jelly rolls.
Get off the stage before somebody punches you in the face.
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wheres your progress pics? ;D
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Andy was a good guy and me and him were always cool. He just spent too much time hooking his friends up with free memberships and jobs. However, the co-owner was AWOL a lot of the time and I rarely seen him...in fact I can't remember his name, just his face. That's just how much he didn't check up on the gyms.
Andy was a real cool person but had no people skills at all and i was cool with too. The Co-owner was always cool with me and i remember his wife more the i remember him but i do know that he was from Michigan. The co-owners wife always came in and worked out but he also had a supplement shop that went under.
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Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
Vince you have prolly never done a deadlift, squat in your whole life...and judging from your condition I would venture to say you have NEVER done 5 minutes of cardio..
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Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
Your physique isn't showing anyone that you are motivated or work hard...
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If it wouldn't make a difference then why do the majority of supplement, training, equipment suppliers use models on their websites? They do it to make people think that by buying their products, then they can look like that as well. It's the same as the big supplement companies using the top Pro's in their adverts. Buy Product X, you too could look like Ronnie.
So, back to my question, if you put your contest pics on your website, would that inspire people to want to look like you, and therefore, buy your products?
Most of it is stock photo. Just like the one on the front page of my website at www.caliberfitness.com
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HOLY SHIT check out this on BB.com Vince is 9% bodyfat????????
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VinceGoodrum/)
Lifting Stats:
(Estimated One Rep Max)
Bench: 395 lb (179.5 kg)
Haha, bullshit. Goodrum, you have long arms, an unimpressive ribcage and your front delts, triceps and chest all look weak. I estimate your 1rm bench at about 120 kg. Could even be lower.
CD
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The thing with Melvin is that he believes in his own hype. Funny considering the floatsam here tend to laugh at him and insult the bloke in every way possible.
But will that faze Melvin? I don't think so. I mean, he will compete and show us all that he is just as capable a bodybuilder as he is a Doctor of Philosophy and a businessman who operates a website selling fitness equipment that no one buys. Someone should tell Melvin that what his Queen Vissy whispers into his ears at night about his amazing body isn't exactly the way he looks or how he is perceived by the floatsam here or elsewhere.
I offered to train Melvin in my own gym and even agreed to give him pointers on competing successfully, but like the bunch of nameless floatsam here like Goatboy, he continues to mock me rather than let me take him under my wing. Oh well, one can only try. Anyway, I just saw in the newspaper that there are a couple of funerals today in a town 400 Km from here and I might crash one of them, even if I don't know the deceased or any of the friends and family from Adam.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306210;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306171;image)
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Vince is actually right about personal training being the wave of the future.
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I swear that while reading this thread I laughed so hard I farted! Nothing like a serious Melvin Goodrum promising to compete in Munzer like condition to bring the house down.
We were wondering where Melvin had disappeared to. Now we know. He is living in bliss hidden away in the hillbilly hills of North Carolina. Lucky for him they tolerate his situation because that wasn't always so in the racist south.
I think our former Venom Vince Versace, who used to warm up the crowd at local wrestling shows and got showered with cans and rubbish, tripped on that soda bottle while going up the stairs at that Prepaid Legal Convention and hasn't been the same since. The dude used to have a thriving business and a gym membership. Since his fall he has used Pilates machines and perhaps just pushups because he presented at his last public display causing hoots of laughter from all and sundry.
Can we expect a transformed Melvin Goodrum? Nope. He has gone online to get various certificates in personal training and nutrition but still needs the advice of supplement companies to know what to do. This guy is an original and no amount of advices will dent that thick hide. We will see more of the same because what he sees in the mirror is not what we see on stage. Truly, there has never been another like our Vince Goodrum. We were proud of his last success in academia when he finally earned his coveted PhD degree in metaphysics. We wonder if he even knows what that discipline is? Some say he merely donated money to some obscure religious order to get his degree. No matter because Vince promised us he was working on another doctorate that required a thesis. Yeah, sure.
So, we await the predictable hype and amusing photos. We await his soon to be published 'Goodrum's Guide to Trademark Calves'! This guy is a net legend and hero for sure.
The thing with Melvin is that he tends to believe in his own hype. Funny considering the floatsam here tends to laugh at him and insult the bloke in every way possible.
But will that faze Melvin? I don't think so. I mean, he will compete and show us all that he is just as capable a bodybuilder as he is a Doctor of Philosophy and a businessman who operates a website selling fitness equipment that no one buys. Someone should tell Melvin that what his Queen Vissy whispers into his ears at night about his amazing body isn't exactly the way he looks or how he is perceived by the floatsam here or elsewhere.
I offered to train Melvin in my own gym and even agreed to give him pointers on competing successfully, but like the bunch of nameless floatsam here like Goatboy, he continues to mock me rather than let me take him under my wing. Oh well, one can only try. Anyway, I just saw in the newspaper that there are a couple of funerals today in a town 400 Km from here and I might crash one of them, even if I don't know the deceased or any of the friends and family from Adam.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306210;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306171;image)
Kiwiol, your post there bears a striking resemblance to Vince Basile's?
;D
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Kiwiol, your post there bears a striking resemblance to Vince Basile's?
;D
You noticed that, huh? :D
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Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
motivated to suck the cream out of the twinkie
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Because I know that people will talk a lot of shit and that gives me the motivation to train hard on those days when I don't feel like it
If by train hard you mean that you actually consider picking up a dumbell or two....then yes, you train hard.
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just took a big dookie bump
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Look, folks, Melvin Goodrum represents the wannabe and dreamer in all of us. Anyone who trains and gets reasonably large arms considers himself a bodybuilding expert and Melvin is no exception. So he belongs on Getbig and used to have more respect and authority when he posted. Someone insisted he post a photo of himself and we have all been amused ever since. The guy probably looks better than some of us has-beens and overweight guys but he is nowhere near what is respected for contest bodybuilders. Melvin obtained on line certificates and that is what those letters stand for after his Vince G handle. He calls himself Vince because he claimed he once wrestled as 'Venom Vince Versace', although there is no evidence he actually stepped in the ring. The dude was used to warm up wrestling audiences and was so effective that people threw soda bottles at him and some wrestlers hated him! So Melvin is a good talker.
He has always envied those of us with academic qualifications so found a remote religious college that granted him a PhD in exchange for a donation. Gotta love a guy who will find a shortcut instead of actually attending college and earning a degree.
Melvin had all manner of grandiose plans re a clinic or personal training studio. He swore his bank manager was licking his chops in anticipation of his getting a government loan given to minorities. Last year Melvin announced he was getting married in the fall but Keith discovered his profile on line and his relationship with a bloke in NC. Did this stop our internet legend from continuing to post on Getbig. Not at all. However, he hasn't posted as much as in previous years so we wonder how retirement is for Melvin.
There's no evidence of you winning the 1970 Mr Canada. You should be able to name at least one competitor from the show or the judge or the venue or anything.
But you can't you old bastard.
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Vince is actually right about personal training being the wave of the future.
Oh yeah, a lot trainers can charge less because they can keep all of the money the make rather than pay the gym. And since exercise equipment doesn't use electricity, your operational cost are much better. People are nowadays wanting more specialized and discrete training and the personal training studios offer it.
Better yet, some of them are getting their massage therapy licenses and are changing it to a wellness center. Add a small room and a table and you have an extra source of income
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There's no evidence of you winning the 1970 Mr Canada. You should be able to name at least one competitor from the show or the judge or the venue or anything.
But you can't you old bastard.
Melvin you are the expert when it comes to winning trophies. You know, enter a division at the last moment as long as there are not more than 2 other guys in the class. Only one other is even better, right? So why envy me when I was the only competitor in the IFBB 1970 Mr Canada show? Bob said so therefore even you don't doubt it.
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Melvin you are the expert when it comes to winning trophies. You know, enter a division at the last moment as long as there are not more than 2 other guys in the class. Only one other is even better, right? So why envy me when I was the only competitor in the IFBB 1970 Mr Canada show? Bob said so therefore even you don't doubt it.
All those women are laughing.
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All those women are laughing.
Look at the Brunettes face in the background
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Melvin you are the expert when it comes to winning trophies. You know, enter a division at the last moment as long as there are not more than 2 other guys in the class. Only one other is even better, right? So why envy me when I was the only competitor in the IFBB 1970 Mr Canada show? Bob said so therefore even you don't doubt it.
I had registered early for the event so obviously there would have been no way for me to know that there would only be two people in the class.
However, at least I can NAME THAT COMPETITOR as well as the people who competed and there is an actual RECORD OF THE EVENT.
Yet, this prestigous title that you boast so much, you can't even name any of the competitors or judges and there's no record whatsoever of it even occurring.
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All those women are laughing.
And that was the whole point in doing it. No-one could have possibly taken that seriously as a bodybuilding event
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"Those stars weren’t so big. They were really so small.
You might think such a thing wouldn’t matter at all"
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And that was the whole point in doing it. No-one could have possibly taken that seriously as a bodybuilding event
How easy to dismiss this Billy Guns showdown after the event. You boasted you were going to show up ripped and easily win. Even in the interview before the show you were confident and displayed your trademark calves. Little did any of us know what kind of condition you brought to the table. Clearly, only a buffoon and nincompoop would get up on stage in your pudgy condition. Too bad the Olympia organizers weren't smarter because what you and Billy presented would have been a hoot for that audience to enjoy.
The organizers of your showdown got the pretty gals to stand behind the table and even they couldn't contain themselves and burst out laughing the whole time. First soda bottles and now rolling on the floor laughing their heads off. You should be in entertainment because you are one serious but hilarious dude.
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More stills from that infamous showdown!
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This is fun! More evidence of Melvin 'competing'.
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Does Ron have Entertainer stars?
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How easy to dismiss this Billy Guns showdown after the event. You boasted you were going to show up ripped and easily win. Even in the interview before the show you were confident and displayed your trademark calves. Little did any of us know what kind of condition you brought to the table. Clearly, only a buffoon and nincompoop would get up on stage in your pudgy condition. Too bad the Olympia organizers weren't smarter because what you and Billy presented would have been a hoot for that audience to enjoy.
The organizers of your showdown got the pretty gals to stand behind the table and even they couldn't contain themselves and burst out laughing the whole time. First soda bottles and now rolling on the floor laughing their heads off. You should be in entertainment because you are one serious but hilarious dude.
You know, its kinda creepy for you to have taken the time to extract pictures from a video from 2006. I bet that you have beaten off your little wrinkled penis on those pictures.
In any event, at least I don't crash people's funerals to get pictures.
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No place to go but up from there.
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Melvin, you are a hoot. Keep being your serious self. As you know some of us go to a lot of trouble to entertain the fellas here. You keep providing the fodder!
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No place to go but up from there.
Hahaha Melvin Vs Vince reminds me of the tagline from (funnily enough) Alien vs Predator - whoever wins, we lose!
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Thank goodness there is only one Vince G CSN MFT! The guy is an internet legend!
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STFU Vince, Melvin may look like shit but he can change that you are a piece of shit and that will never change. My guess is that in a year or so your old body will give and you will be dead and buried and no one will give a shit.
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This Vince G takes his posing seriously. There he was doing all the fancy movements but had little visible muscle to show!
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STFU Vince, Melvin may look like shit but he can change that you are a piece of shit and that will never change. My guess is that in a year or so your old body will give and you will be dead and buried and no one will give a shit.
im not one to support Goodrum normally, but I agree here. Go kill yourself Basile, oh wait at your age its not that far away anyways. Fuckin loser
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Leave it to the floatsam in Getbig to overlook the hilarity in seeing someone like Melvin making a fool of himself publicly and choosing to bash instead. Here is Melvin looking like a bloke who has never seen the inside of a gym posing away like he is on the Mr Olympia stage. Would even his Queen Vissy think he looks good there? I seriously doubt it.
People like Melvin are the reason why I visit Getbig, although most of the nameless people here are just as funny in their own way I guess. I mean, where else would you find a sad bunch of people who laugh at people suffering from obesity?
Goes to show it takes all sorts to make the world go around. Anyway, let's get back on track to looking at what Melvin normally looks like when he chooses to display his physique. I have no funerals to crash and the IFBB's puppet isn't here to wind me up, so I might as well post more pictures of Melvin that I have spent the whole afternoon extracting from a video clip
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306315;image)
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Basile--serious question--how does it feel knowing people would laugh at and applaud your death?
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Leave it to the floatsam in Getbig to overlook the hilarity in seeing someone like Melvin making a fool of himself publicly and choosing to bash instead. Here is Melvin looking like a bloke who has never seen the inside of a gym posing away like he is on the Mr Olympia stage. Would even his Queen Vissy think he looks good there? I seriously doubt it.
People like Melvin are the reason why I visit Getbig, although most of the nameless people here are just as funny in their own way I guess. I mean, where else would you find a sad bunch of people who laugh at people suffering from obesity?
Goes to show it takes all sorts to make the world go around. Anyway, let's get back on track to looking at what Melvin normally looks like when he chooses to display his physique. I have no funerals to crash and the IFBB's puppet isn't here to wind me up, so I might as well post more pictures of Melvin that I have spent the whole afternoon extracting from a video clip
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306315;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306318;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=306321;image)
You spent your whole afternoon extracting pictures of me??? Don't you have that pink colored gym to run or invent some new equipment???
You're over 70 years old and you're spending your time extracting pictures of me from a video from 2006???? ::)
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Vince is actually right about personal training being the wave of the future.
Anyone who has been in a gym in the past few years could see that. It isn't something he discovered. Personal Training is the #2 source of revenue for a gym after memberships.
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You spent your whole afternoon extracting pictures of me??? Don't you have that pink colored gym to run or invent some new equipment???
You're over 70 years old and you're spending your time extracting pictures of me from a video from 2006???? ::)
Hahaha hey Vince, that is MY post you are quoting - I was doing a parody of Basile just for a laugh (2nd one in this thread, including the one in the page before).
Looks like I succeeded ;D
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Oh yeah, a lot trainers can charge less because they can keep all of the money the make rather than pay the gym. And since exercise equipment doesn't use electricity, your operational cost are much better. People are nowadays wanting more specialized and discrete training and the personal training studios offer it.
Better yet, some of them are getting their massage therapy licenses and are changing it to a wellness center. Add a small room and a table and you have an extra source of income
WHat place lets the PT's keep all the money. The have to be charged with rent or something. Personal Trainers who don't pay the gym and train people on their put the gym at risk for injury law suits. ANY PT who trains anyone and is not paying the gym a rental fee or percentage should be kicked out. All that has to happen is the client getting injured and sues the gym because they understood the PT worked for or under the gym. Equipment gets wear and tear from every person who uses it. And, most personal trainers have their clients do some kind of cardio using the machines. Also, clients take showers, use the restroom, paper towels, put wear and tear on the flooring. Small PT place have no chance in a market where there is a super club or franchised club that has the room to provide a more discreet area for some clients to train. When you have a massage therapy area there are certain regulations you have to abide by. One of them is providing water (sink) are to be able to wash your hands. That means plumbing. And depending on the location of the room it could end up costing $50,000+ to put in one 10 x 10 massage therapy room. You need ventilation, area to change too.
Another thing you forget is you have to give PT's a place to hold confernce with their clients. A desk, computer, filing cabinet, workout cards, releases, phone etc. Same with a massage therapist. You just don't something without knowing what you are doing Goodrum. Massage Therapy is a great way for a gym to make money but it is NOT as easy as adding a table in a small room. But then where you live I am sure anything goes and they don't give a shit.
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The really sad thing about personal training is the low standard of training the instructors have. Our own Vince G knows hardly anything at all yet gives advice on his website. That is totally unprofessional as far as I am concerned. I guess a lot of simple-minded people figure being a personal trainer is an easy way to make a lot of money. Like I said, everyone with 16 inch arms considers himself a world expert in bodybuilding. Many of these heroes take a 6 week course or do some on line course and think they are qualified to instruct others. What a joke.
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The really sad thing about personal training is the low standard of training the instructors have. Our own Vince G knows hardly anything at all yet gives advice on his website. That is totally unprofessional as far as I am concerned. I guess a lot of simple-minded people figure being a personal trainer is an easy way to make a lot of money. Like I said, everyone with 16 inch arms considers himself a world expert in bodybuilding. Many of these heroes take a 6 week course or do some on line course and think they are qualified to instruct others. What a joke.
What's the 1970 Mr.Canada doing posting on Getbig?
Shouldn't you be off lecturing at some University or something? ???
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The problem with PT is that you really don't ever need to go into a gym and actually train to get certified. If you are a good student and can take tests you can get certified. As a gym member and former athlete who train ALOT I never liked Personal Trainers. But as a gym owner you need them and you want them cause they can make you money. PT's are paid cheerleaders for the client. They client needs them to rout them on and give them encouragement. If a client can't learn how to train in a few weeks then it is sad. After that the PT just becomes a cheerleader, which obviously alot of people need. But I think it would be better to have a few friends come along with you and train.
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Anyone who has been in a gym in the past few years could see that. It isn't something he discovered. Personal Training is the #2 source of revenue for a gym after memberships.
That's only part of what I talking about. I've referring to private personal training and wellness studios.
Its essentially a combination of not just physical fitness but also for alternative medicine, massage therapy and treatments. People are wanting to get into shape but they also want alternatives to expensive medical treatment. A personal trainer can simply take a 6-12 month course in massage therapy and take a home course in naturopathy and can greatly expand their business. He can train a client and then give them a body massage afterwards which essentially doubles the revenue.
Private training studio's are so popular even Sam's Club is now selling entire base commerical packages under 10,000 they'll even ship it all out to you for free. Add a few items and a trainer can be in business in a few days with minimum cost.
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Melvin, have you ever considered actually going to university and completing a course in exercise science or nutrition? That would be a start. You keep coming up with all these 'easy' ways to make money that require no professional qualifications. If all of this is so easy where is that clinic you said you were going to open?
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WHat place lets the PT's keep all the money. The have to be charged with rent or something. Personal Trainers who don't pay the gym and train people on their put the gym at risk for injury law suits. ANY PT who trains anyone and is not paying the gym a rental fee or percentage should be kicked out. All that has to happen is the client getting injured and sues the gym because they understood the PT worked for or under the gym. Equipment gets wear and tear from every person who uses it. And, most personal trainers have their clients do some kind of cardio using the machines. Also, clients take showers, use the restroom, paper towels, put wear and tear on the flooring. Small PT place have no chance in a market where there is a super club or franchised club that has the room to provide a more discreet area for some clients to train. When you have a massage therapy area there are certain regulations you have to abide by. One of them is providing water (sink) are to be able to wash your hands. That means plumbing. And depending on the location of the room it could end up costing $50,000+ to put in one 10 x 10 massage therapy room. You need ventilation, area to change too.
Another thing you forget is you have to give PT's a place to hold confernce with their clients. A desk, computer, filing cabinet, workout cards, releases, phone etc. Same with a massage therapist. You just don't something without knowing what you are doing Goodrum. Massage Therapy is a great way for a gym to make money but it is NOT as easy as adding a table in a small room. But then where you live I am sure anything goes and they don't give a shit.
I've actually put together a personal training studio design that fits in a small footprint and requires minimum spacing. I actually got the idea from a hair salon and it eliminates a lot of clutter that's not needed. The only extra expense would be the bathroom conversion over to a commercial shower and the massage room plumbing which I found is not that expensive in the scheme of things....far from $50,000...chuckle
You simply think too big Keith which doesn't surprise me since you are big.
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That's only part of what I talking about. I've referring to private personal training and wellness studios.
Its essentially a combination of not just physical fitness but also for alternative medicine, massage therapy and treatments. People are wanting to get into shape but they also want alternatives to expensive medical treatment. A personal trainer can simply take a 6-12 month course in massage therapy and take a home course in naturopathy and can greatly expand their business. He can train a client and then give them a body massage afterwards which essentially doubles the revenue.
Private training studio's are so popular even Sam's Club is now selling entire base commerical packages under 10,000 they'll even ship it all out to you for free. Add a few items and a trainer can be in business in a few days with minimum cost.
Honestly Goodrum why do you put shit like this up. do you honestly think buying a "package" from Sam's Club is going to put you into business. How many clients can you move through a gym you paid $10,000 in equipment. How do you make enough to pay your overhead. First you need a building or room to put this in. You need to pay for lease (first and last), qualify for the lease, buildout the area, have utilities and phone and computer system put in. A/C and heating. Carpet or rubber flooring, a small reception area for prospective clients, check in counter, membership software and accounting, someone to clean and do maintenance, a receptionist, alarm, liability insurance for a minimum of $1 million, workman's comp and payroll fees, cleaning materials and the list can go on and on. You have NO idea what it takes to put together a gym. I have been doing it since 1979. I remember when our membership info was kept on index cards in a shoe box. But everything has changed. And if you think you are going to get clients and retain them with a $10,000 equipment package from Sam's Club then dude you are even dumber that I thought. I have no idea what kind of mentality small town people have but I am sure it isn't like yours. I have a feeling you are happy making $80 a day. A gym like you are dreaming up will barely make $200 a day. I had to make a minimum of $2,000 a day in my small town of Kona and we only have 40,000 people or so. We did it though most of the time (not counting weekends).
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I've actually put together a personal training studio design that fits in a small footprint and requires minimum spacing. I actually got the idea from a hair salon and it eliminates a lot of clutter that's not needed. The only extra expense would be the bathroom conversion over to a commercial shower and the massage room plumbing which I found is not that expensive in the scheme of things....far from $50,000...chuckle
You simply think too big Keith which doesn't surprise me since you are big.
Designing a place mean absolutely nothing! Any moron can do that (you have proved that). I guarantee you NO ONE would ever in there right mind invest in a small design like you have without unless they know nothing about the industry. And you compare a hair salon to a gym. Dude you surprise the shit out of me. How the fuck do you stay alive? And I don't think big I think about making enough to cover costs. You simply cannot make enough money with a place you are describing. NO way in hell. But then again like I said you are happy making $80 a day so who knows.
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This Vince guy looks like shit. Who in their right mind would ever take advice from him? He looks like a shiny turd after a fiber binge.
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Honestly Goodrum why do you put shit like this up. do you honestly think buying a "package" from Sam's Club is going to put you into business. How many clients can you move through a gym you paid $10,000 in equipment. How do you make enough to pay your overhead. First you need a building or room to put this in. You need to pay for lease (first and last), qualify for the lease, buildout the area, have utilities and phone and computer system put in. A/C and heating. Carpet or rubber flooring, a small reception area for prospective clients, check in counter, membership software and accounting, someone to clean and do maintenance, a receptionist, alarm, liability insurance for a minimum of $1 million, workman's comp and payroll fees, cleaning materials and the list can go on and on. You have NO idea what it takes to put together a gym. I have been doing it since 1979. I remember when our membership info was kept on index cards in a shoe box. But everything has changed. And if you think you are going to get clients and retain them with a $10,000 equipment package from Sam's Club then dude you are even dumber that I thought. I have no idea what kind of mentality small town people have but I am sure it isn't like yours. I have a feeling you are happy making $80 a day. A gym like you are dreaming up will barely make $200 a day. I had to make a minimum of $2,000 a day in my small town of Kona and we only have 40,000 people or so. We did it though most of the time (not counting weekends).
Again you're thinking too big and a lot of stuff you mentioned is simply clutter. Obviously a private training studio isn't going to need all the stuff you're talking about and the design can actually make more than you think if done correctly...and the overhead would be much lower allowing you to keep more of the profit.
Now, I only mentioned Sam's Club because they are doing it but actually a number of personal trainers have bought similar packages, added some extra stuff and and are doing pretty well. They run it by themselves scheduling appointments, cleaning up, and etc.
The design I have like I said works similar to a hair salon and I'm sure it'll catch on with other interested in their own operation. Peope who I've asked for opinions on the design actually liked it and thought it was innovative.
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Hey, Keith, Sylva, NC, has only 2550 people. I doubt a gym would survive there. Seems Melvin is thinking small because he lives in a small town in those Great Smoky Mountains. Maybe the smoke got to him!
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Hey, Keith, Sylva, NC, has only 2550 people. I doubt a gym would survive there. Seems Melvin is thinking small because he lives in a small town in those Great Smoky Mountains. Maybe the smoke got to him!
This town actually has 2 gyms and an MMA training facility.
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Yeah, gyms are everywhere. Easy to open but not so easy to make money out of them. How is that personal clinic going, Melvin? I can't imagine your being content to sit at home on the internet all day.
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Again you're thinking too big and a lot of stuff you mentioned is simply clutter. Obviously a private training studio isn't going to need all the stuff you're talking about and the design can actually make more than you think if done correctly...and the overhead would be much lower allowing you to keep more of the profit.
Now, I only mentioned Sam's Club because they are doing it but actually a number of personal trainers have bought similar packages, added some extra stuff and and are doing pretty well. They run it by themselves scheduling appointments, cleaning up, and etc.
The design I have like I said works similar to a hair salon and I'm sure it'll catch on with other interested in their own operation. Peope who I've asked for opinions on the design actually liked it and thought it was innovative.
Please tell me what items you would consider clutter
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Again you're thinking too big and a lot of stuff you mentioned is simply clutter. Obviously a private training studio isn't going to need all the stuff you're talking about and the design can actually make more than you think if done correctly...and the overhead would be much lower allowing you to keep more of the profit.
You are making a lot of assumptions without marketing research to back them up. First of all, you are not alone in the fitness business. I'm living in a town in Norway with 200 000+ inhabitatants in the area. There are at least 7 professional gyms here. All of them offers personal training, free weights, machines, cardio equipment, tanning beds, spinning halls, aerobic/group training facilities++. The one I go to is the largest, and they also have squash courts and two large climbing walls as well as saunas that are always on. All equipment is kept in prime condition and the rooms are classy, spacy and have very good AC/heating.
Why on earth would I go your hair-dressing fitness/wellness center when I can go to a large, professional gym instead?
CD
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keep in mind fellas... this physique is with "juice". hes said it himself..... razorblades are his nearest companion.
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keep in mind fellas... this physique is with "juice". hes said it himself..... razorblades are his nearest companion.
You're kidding right? That turd of a physique is with juice? Wow!
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Vince likes to dress up as a clown and hand out baloons full of his cum to small children,as the kids are blowing up the baloons he gets incredibly turned on by the fact that he is technically coming in their mouths :D
Its ok tho Vince,your secrets safe with me
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You're kidding right? That turd of a physique is with juice? Wow!
Yes...and he wears it like a badge of courage.
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keep in mind fellas... this physique is with "juice". hes said it himself..... razorblades are his nearest companion.
Looks like the only 'juice' he's on is Sunny D. :)
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I will give Vince credit, on his website, because its looks really good.But just like always Vince puts his foot in his own mouth.
God if this guy would just learn to keep his mouth closed.Vince are you bi-polar, or you just palin fu?#$# crazy?
You have this nice website, but your selling off the wall products, and the words you type are just plain unbeleivable.
Vince were you abducted by aliens?????
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I will give Vince credit, on his website, because its looks really good.But just like always Vince puts his foot in his own mouth.
God if this guy would just learn to keep his mouth closed.Vince are you bi-polar, or you just palin fu?#$# crazy?
You have this nice website, but your selling off the wall products, and the words you type are just plain unbeleivable.
Vince were you abducted by aliens?????
Off the wall products??? Please explain
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Off the wall products??? Please explain
Your image = Horse shit
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You are making a lot of assumptions without marketing research to back them up. First of all, you are not alone in the fitness business. I'm living in a town in Norway with 200 000+ inhabitatants in the area. There are at least 7 professional gyms here. All of them offers personal training, free weights, machines, cardio equipment, tanning beds, spinning halls, aerobic/group training facilities++. The one I go to is the largest, and they also have squash courts and two large climbing walls as well as saunas that are always on. All equipment is kept in prime condition and the rooms are classy, spacy and have very good AC/heating.
Why on earth would I go your hair-dressing fitness/wellness center when I can go to a large, professional gym instead?
CD
Because there is a growing number of people who fear going into a large gym because they assume they will be ridiculed and harrassed. In addition, people don't want to spend time walking around a large gym looking for help with equipment and eventually they stop coming all together. And the fees for a personal trainer at a gym can be from $100-$200 dollars per session
A private studio allows that person to be comfortable with their surroundings without having to deal with assholes or not getting help who would make fun of them and they are more than willing to pay more for the services. Plus that trainer can charge much less than what a gym would charge giving lots of customer retention. In addition, the trainer can also sell nutritional supplements which adds to his residual income. Most PT's can't sell supplements except the gyms and they usually don't get any money from it. Best of all, the trainer doesn't have to do the "one free session" for new gym members which saves them a time from being wasted. I always hated doing that because they just forked down a ton of money for the membership so they're not in the spending mood anyway....its a waste of time for the most part.
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Because there is a growing number of people who fear going into a large gym because they assume they will be ridiculed and harrassed. In addition, people don't want to spend time walking around a large gym looking for help with equipment and eventually they stop coming all together. And the fees for a personal trainer at a gym can be from $100-$200 dollars per session
A private studio allows that person to be comfortable with their surroundings without having to deal with assholes or not getting help who would make fun of them and they are more than willing to pay more for the services. Plus that trainer can charge much less than what a gym would charge giving lots of customer retention. In addition, the trainer can also sell nutritional supplements which adds to his residual income. Most PT's can't sell supplements except the gyms and they usually don't get any money from it. Best of all, the trainer doesn't have to do the "one free session" for new gym members which saves them a time from being wasted. I always hated doing that because they just forked down a ton of money for the membership so they're not in the spending mood anyway....its a waste of time for the most part.
Maybe your milk titties squirted milk in your eyes and prevented you from seeing my last post.
Your image = Horse shit
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With all due respect to Vince and some others I have seen on stage in the past, the NPC should have some sort of standard or regulation which would prevent anyone in Vince's former (and possibly upcoming) condition from standing on stage with other guys who actually deserve to be up there.
Many years ago we had a female impersonator (a very talented and artistic performer) who decided that he wanted to enter a ladies' bodybuilding contest.
Unbeknownst to the promoter and the NPC officials, he managed to get on stage during the initial lineup and was making a damn good showing until some of his friends and fellow performers ran to the edge of the stage and yelled, "Good going, Ralphy! Show them glutes!" ............
And then the prejudging came to an immediate halt and it took a while for the promoter and the officials to solve the situation; but when it continued, that lineup was minus "Ralphy".
But in the background you could hear Ralphy's high pitched voice yelling, "I'm gonna sue! I'm gonna sue!".
That may be a far fetched example of the Vince/NPC situation, but there oughta be a regulation.
Or could it just be possible that such a regulation could end up in a court of law. I've heard crazier stories regarding our legal system.
Sorry, Vince, but so far you've been an embarassment in your Speedos and to be honest with ya, I don't expect to see any improvement in the future.
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maybe vince will show up with a simular physique as freeman.
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
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Because there is a growing number of people who fear going into a large gym because they assume they will be ridiculed and harrassed. In addition, people don't want to spend time walking around a large gym looking for help with equipment and eventually they stop coming all together. And the fees for a personal trainer at a gym can be from $100-$200 dollars per session...
You may be right, but there are a few snags. Given that you will have rather strict limitation on the numbers of customers, you need to charge quite a bit from each customer to make money. Who will be willing and able to pay?
CD
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QFT.
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maybe vince will show up with a simular physique as freeman.
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Vince's condition offends me,seriously I could eat cream horns for 3wks straight every hour,on the hour,and be in better condition than him
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You dont think using this machine getting ready for a bodybuilding show is not off the wall????? are you kidding me.
Vince you been taking that Chuck Norris thread way to serious
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Melvin is out there battling away with basic fitness equipment and not much else. Good for him if he can get in shape and compete. Why should anyone discourage him from enterring contests? Melvin isn't ready yet for open competition but fares well in other divisions. Those who throw stones seldom have the nerve to actually compete. It takes a lot of courage. Some say that Melvin is delusional and has no shame. Well, perhaps the hero he sees in his mirror isn't what we see in his photos but he is still a bodybuilder.
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Melvin is out there battling away with basic fitness equipment and not much else. Good for him if he can get in shape and compete. Why should anyone discourage him from enterring contests? Melvin isn't ready yet for open competition but fares well in other divisions. Those who throw stones seldom have the nerve to actually compete. It takes a lot of courage. Some say that Melvin is delusional and has no shame. Well, perhaps the hero he sees in his mirror isn't what we see in his photos but he is still a bodybuilder.
Back to the attic with you, senile old turd.
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Melvin is out there battling away with basic fitness equipment and not much else. Good for him if he can get in shape and compete. Why should anyone discourage him from enterring contests? Melvin isn't ready yet for open competition but WOULD FARE OK IN A SPECIAL PERSONS DIVISION. Those who throw stones seldom have the nerve to actually compete. It takes a lot of courage. Some say that Melvin is delusional and has no shame. Well, perhaps the hero he sees in his mirror isn't what we see in his photos but he is still a bodybuilder.
Melvin tries his best but he has boobies
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At least Melvin Goodrum has won a trophy in a bodybuilding contest. How many here can claim that? Goatboy? Naw, that dude is probably in timeout where he belongs.
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Because there is a growing number of people who fear going into a large gym because they assume they will be ridiculed and harrassed. In addition, people don't want to spend time walking around a large gym looking for help with equipment and eventually they stop coming all together. And the fees for a personal trainer at a gym can be from $100-$200 dollars per session
A private studio allows that person to be comfortable with their surroundings without having to deal with assholes or not getting help who would make fun of them and they are more than willing to pay more for the services. Plus that trainer can charge much less than what a gym would charge giving lots of customer retention. In addition, the trainer can also sell nutritional supplements which adds to his residual income. Most PT's can't sell supplements except the gyms and they usually don't get any money from it. Best of all, the trainer doesn't have to do the "one free session" for new gym members which saves them a time from being wasted. I always hated doing that because they just forked down a ton of money for the membership so they're not in the spending mood anyway....its a waste of time for the most part.
You are so WAY off on here I don't have time to even dissect it. First I have never been in a gym that a personal trainer charges $200 a session. The most anyone charges in Hawaii is $125 I think a session and that is Faildo and he knows alot more than any trainer where you live I am sure of that. I am sure their are guys out there who can get that but the number is very very very low. If you are going to let the PT keep all the money they make. How are you going to pay the bills? By the memberships only. There is no way ever you can do that. This just shows that you have no idea what you are doing. Have you even put together financials for this. Get a spread sheet and put down the costs and expenses. You will be in the red the day you start till the day they foreclose on you. How many people do you expect per day to train in such a small place and hardly any equipment. You may be able to get 2 to 4 people an hour there. How in the fuck can you run a business like that. NO WAY in hell. And those free sessions have a purpose. It gives the member the experince of PT and then they sign up for packages. The only reason it didn't work for you is because you are not a trainer nor someone who people are going to want to have train them. At Golds In Honolulu, a person would sign up for a membership for $600 and then spend another $800 for PT and another $500+ for Nutritionanaylisis. The best time to get them to buy PT is when they sign up. Honestly I really doubt you even go to a gym. You have no idea how one is operated.
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At least Melvin Goodrum has won a trophy in a bodybuilding contest. How many here can claim that? Goatboy? Naw, that dude is probably in timeout where he belongs.
I can say I've won trophies so I can still mock Vince
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Keith, you know Melvin is a true expert in fitness and has done a marketing plan for his wellness studio. It is a different concept from a gym but as a business it must follow the same principles. So you are right to question what idea Melvin has that is going to be viable.
I have some personal trainers in my gym and they are a problem. You have to charge them something if they use your premises to earn a living. It is as simple as that. We also have self-styled trainers who assist other members. This should not be tolerated, either, but long-time regulars are given some leeway here.
From what Melvin writes I would say he has no business experience at all and would find it difficult to earn a living from fitness and health. At least he is smart enough to post his ideas on Getbig so he can get some valuable feedback. One wonders if he is smart enough to profit from the good advice. What we see here is his commitment to his own untested dreams.
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I can say I've won trophies so I can still mock Vince
I think if we have won trophies we shouldn't mock others who want to compete. It is easier said than done. Melvin invites ridicule because he boasts about how great he is going to look and then shows up presenting nothing but an untrained physique with reasonable arms and calves. That is never going to win a contest. I mean, if you don't show up with three rows of abdominals you really aren't serious about competition.
Melvin's photos tell the whole story.
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Basile have you sold many tickets to the 25th Australian Pro show??have you got your Free tickets??
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Bill Pec fitness here in Portland , going on 12 years he charges anywhere from 100-200 a session, hes not even that good, 1200 square feet he made over 175k last year. Onlyme is not up on current trends in the business
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Bill Pec fitness here in Portland , going on 12 years he charges anywhere from 100-200 a session, hes not even that good, 1200 square feet he made over 175k last year. Onlyme is not up on current trends in the business
Wrong I am up on it. You are telling of one person. He charges that much and you say he is not that good yet he has cliets. What does that say about the cliental in your area. Pretty stupid uh? The average PT makes between $45 and $80 an hour. I have a friend (who is dead now) who was a PT and he made well over $20,000 a month training and would get $500 an session. Big deal. There will always be a few here and there. Your man Bill Pec (if he really does get that) is not the majority but the minority. And saying I am not up on the industry is laughable. But I admit i do not much about those small hole in the wall places like you and your business partner Goodrum know. So you definitely are up on me on that one.
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Bill Pec fitness here in Portland , going on 12 years he charges anywhere from 100-200 a session, hes not even that good, 1200 square feet he made over 175k last year. Onlyme is not up on current trends in the business
Exactly and Keith is dismissing it simply because he operates his own gym franchise.
Personal Training Studio's are the new trend in fitness. Its more personalized and much more focused on the client plus with a massage therapy license, they can expand their potential customer base.
I don't know this Bill Pec guy but it sounds like he's got his shit together and there's a lot of people like him out there doing the same thing.
Its not going to eliminate the existence of gyms but it will put a nice dent into it.... ;D
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So I have thought about doing a bodybuilding contest as incentive to drop weight for the summer. BUt i don't want to join a show unless I know there will only be 1 or 2 other people so i am guaranteed a trophy. How do I go about finding something like this?
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Bill Pec fitness here in Portland , going on 12 years he charges anywhere from 100-200 a session, hes not even that good, 1200 square feet he made over 175k last year. Onlyme is not up on current trends in the business
By the way D&B has his annual earnings at $90,000. I think you were a little (alot) off. Nice try though
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Personal Training Studio's are the new trend in fitness. Its more personalized and much more focused on the client plus with a massage therapy license, they can expand their potential customer base.
Good luck, but, with the current state of the economy, I believe the personal training business is in for some rough sledding. We're talking about an ultra-discretionary expense which will be the 1st thing to go when someone decides to cut living costs.
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You are so WAY off on here I don't have time to even dissect it. First I have never been in a gym that a personal trainer charges $200 a session. The most anyone charges in Hawaii is $125 I think a session and that is Faildo and he knows alot more than any trainer where you live I am sure of that. I am sure their are guys out there who can get that but the number is very very very low. If you are going to let the PT keep all the money they make. How are you going to pay the bills? By the memberships only. There is no way ever you can do that. This just shows that you have no idea what you are doing. Have you even put together financials for this. Get a spread sheet and put down the costs and expenses. You will be in the red the day you start till the day they foreclose on you. How many people do you expect per day to train in such a small place and hardly any equipment. You may be able to get 2 to 4 people an hour there. How in the fuck can you run a business like that. NO WAY in hell. And those free sessions have a purpose. It gives the member the experince of PT and then they sign up for packages. The only reason it didn't work for you is because you are not a trainer nor someone who people are going to want to have train them. At Golds In Honolulu, a person would sign up for a membership for $600 and then spend another $800 for PT and another $500+ for Nutritionanaylisis. The best time to get them to buy PT is when they sign up. Honestly I really doubt you even go to a gym. You have no idea how one is operated.
500 dollars for a Nutritional Analysis??? What kind of bullshit fee is that???? Whoever owns that gym is ripping people off with this shit. I've never charged anyone that kind of money for such a simple task
And that's just it really. A lot of personal trainers are sick and tired of the gym making them bring in their customers, train the new member, and then get a huge chunk of their training fees for those who do along with having to convince someone to pay 500 dollars for a Nutritional Analysis....... ::)
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Good luck, but, with the current state of the economy, I believe the personal training business is in for some rough sledding. We're talking about an ultra-discretionary expense which will be the 1st thing to go when someone decides to cut living costs.
Getting in shape cuts down on medical bills and supplements will always be inexpensive enough for people to afford.
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500 dollars for a Nutritional Analysis??? What kind of bullshit fee is that???? Whoever owns that gym is ripping people off with this shit. I've never charged anyone that kind of money for such a simple task
And that's just it really. A lot of personal trainers are sick and tired of the gym making them bring in their customers, train the new member, and then get a huge chunk of their training fees for those who do along with having to convince someone to pay 500 dollars for a Nutritional Analysis....... ::)
Again you are showing ignorance. Nutritionananalysis is was what Gold's Gym had for years. Neal Spruce created it and about 6 years or so later he sold it for $16 million or so. So I don't think it was that stupid. Now he has Bodybug. See if you knew or have been in a real gym you would have known that. Those little hole i the wall place you are trying to push are great for a small piece of the pie. They are something will may last a little while but in the long run won't make. Like I showed above in that gym he specified, there annual income was estimated at $90,000. that is gross reciepts. Please don't tell me you think that is alot of money for a business. My small 14,000 sq. ft. gym in a small town in the middle of the ocean was doing $60,000 t0 $80,000 a month. We maybe would have 1 month a year that was under $60,000. Sorry but your concept of a profitable business is way far away from mine.
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Here's some examples of successful personal training studios
www.the-garage-fitness.com
Trains clients right in their garage which is 16 x 26 feet
www.trainme247.com
400 sq ft!!!!!!!!
www.billpecfitness.com
1200 sq feet, Woodway Treadmills, and even home service which expands your base even more
Especially check out Garage Fitness because I find it pretty cool that they are training people in their fricking garage and the setup actually looks good
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Here's some examples of successful personal training studios
www.the-garage-fitness.com
Trains clients right in their garage which is 16 x 26 feet
www.trainme247.com
400 sq ft!!!!!!!!
www.billpecfitness.com
1200 sq feet, Woodway Treadmills, and even home service which expands your base even more
Especially check out Garage Fitness because I find it pretty cool that they are training people in their fricking garage and the setup actually looks good
Vince I am not going to argue over this with you or Noel. I know PT services is a huge money maker. I stated it was the #2 revenue generator behind membership. Those small hole in the wall studios are fine for a very very small niche in the market. I know that. But, to compare what is best way to generate an income to be comfortable with and a business that makes you a large income you cannot compare the two. But there is no way you can ever convince me that the small piece of the pie is better than the HUGE piece of the pie.
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Again you are showing ignorance. Nutritionananalysis is was what Gold's Gym had for years. Neal Spruce created it and about 6 years or so later he sold it for $16 million or so. So I don't think it was that stupid. Now he has Bodybug. See if you knew or have been in a real gym you would have known that. Those little hole i the wall place you are trying to push are great for a small piece of the pie. They are something will may last a little while but in the long run won't make. Like I showed above in that gym he specified, there annual income was estimated at $90,000. that is gross reciepts. Please don't tell me you think that is alot of money for a business. My small 14,000 sq. ft. gym in a small town in the middle of the ocean was doing $60,000 t0 $80,000 a month. We maybe would have 1 month a year that was under $60,000. Sorry but your concept of a profitable business is way far away from mine.
Uuh, Keith. I WORKED AT GOLD'S GYM IN GREENVILLE AS A TRAINER WHEN IT WAS OPEN!!! We didn't charge $500 dollars for that.
And Keith, when your equipment is all paid for and all you have to do is keep the lights on and wash the showers as Bill Pec does, you keep most of that money. $90,000 is an estimate which calculates every year he's been in business including when he started. Most businesses don't make back their investment in the first year.
BTW, try calling this a hole in the wall. Perl Personal Training Studio
http://holisticwellnessnetwork.com/Personal-Trainers-Montclair-NJ-Glen-Ridge-Verona-Cedar-Grove-Livingston-Short-Hills-Millburn-Summit-Berkeley-Heights-New-Providence-Murray-Hill-Chatham-Madison-Morristown-Caldwell-New-Jersey-Essex-Morris-County-Holistic-Wellness-Network-EFT/Training_Studio.html
This place is a gym's worst nightmare. You can't possibly not be impressed by this. That's the advantage of being independent and free from franchises...you can establish your own legacy, make your own rules, and do what you want in a gym and this place is very personalized and stylish.
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Especially check out Garage Fitness because I find it pretty cool that they are training people in their fricking garage and the setup actually looks good
No, it looks cramped and claustophobic, with very limited equipment. I would never pay to train at such a place.'
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What are the two gyms in Sylva like, Melvin? Are you working at any of them?
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Vince I am not going to argue over this with you or Noel. I know PT services is a huge money maker. I stated it was the #2 revenue generator behind membership. Those small hole in the wall studios are fine for a very very small niche in the market. I know that. But, to compare what is best way to generate an income to be comfortable with and a business that makes you a large income you cannot compare the two. But there is no way you can ever convince me that the small piece of the pie is better than the HUGE piece of the pie.
BTW, why don't you tell us all what happenned to that 80,000 a month gym???? chuckle
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Vince I am not going to argue over this with you or Noel. I know PT services is a huge money maker. I stated it was the #2 revenue generator behind membership. Those small hole in the wall studios are fine for a very very small niche in the market. I know that. But, to compare what is best way to generate an income to be comfortable with and a business that makes you a large income you cannot compare the two. But there is no way you can ever convince me that the small piece of the pie is better than the HUGE piece of the pie.
The small piece of the pie is a much better investment because its minimum risk and minimum investment.
In order for someone to open a gym, they would need to have at least $1,000,000 of available funds just to even think about it...perhaps more.
While you can make a lot more money a month, you can lose a lot more money a month just as well. The Gold's Gym I trained people at at is no longer there because the owners ran out of money to operate it. They ended up selling lifetime memberships for 1000.00 dollars right up to the very last day they opened. I came in as usual and found a bunch of moving vans and all of my training stuff I had in my locker was long gone.
Of course, all of the clients I was training didn't follow me to the next gym because they assumed I had knowledge of it happenning when I didn't. I was an independent contractor.
That's why I recommend personal trainers to get their own studios because its the wave of the future and they can make more money than they would at a gym along with having their independence and freedom
Having a successful gym is a very small minority and it usually is only successful for a short time...Just ask Bally's
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I remember several years ago, someone opened a storefront personal training studio on my block (I live in Manhattan, upper eastside), just as Keith described, the place did ok for a little while, then, went out of business. People like the amenities of the big gyms/health clubs.
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Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
[/quote]I hope you back youre words with actions, and I'd be very impressed.
That show down with billy gunns was pathetic bro, especially with the smack you spout
off on this website.
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BTW, why don't you tell us all what happenned to that 80,000 a month gym???? chuckle
My overhead and costs equalled about $45,000 to $50,000 a month. The profit went back into the gym in upgrades and the balance went to the partners on Maui. My payroll was about $20,000 a month. Electric alone averaged $4,000 a month with water abut $500. Rent was $14,000 a month. Cable and phone was about $400 month. COGS was about $1500 or so month. Cleaning was $1200 a month. Copier lease was $500 a month. Paper Goods and soap etc. was about $600 a month. Can't remember some other shit. All the equipment was paid for with most of it coming from the fire sale at Worlds Gym in Honolulu. One thing about having a little hole in the wall, you don't have these costs. But then again you aren't making the money to have them either
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This is the STUPIDEST fucking thread ever. Garage gym? Haha what a fucking joke.
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Coach charges 1.3k an hour to train people.
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Getting in shape cuts down on medical bills and supplements will always be inexpensive enough for people to afford.
I wouldn't say supplements are that inexpensive. It isn't to far fetched to spend a few hundred a month on them
The small piece of the pie is a much better investment because its minimum risk and minimum investment.
In order for someone to open a gym, they would need to have at least $1,000,000 of available funds just to even think about it...perhaps more.
While you can make a lot more money a month, you can lose a lot more money a month just as well. The Gold's Gym I trained people at at is no longer there because the owners ran out of money to operate it. They ended up selling lifetime memberships for 1000.00 dollars right up to the very last day they opened. I came in as usual and found a bunch of moving vans and all of my training stuff I had in my locker was long gone.
Of course, all of the clients I was training didn't follow me to the next gym because they assumed I had knowledge of it happenning when I didn't. I was an independent contractor.
That's why I recommend personal trainers to get their own studios because its the wave of the future and they can make more money than they would at a gym along with having their independence and freedom
Having a successful gym is a very small minority and it usually is only successful for a short time...Just ask Bally's
Bally's has been around for 20+ years, I find that far from a short time. I find it hard to believe that Gold's Gym sold lifetime memberships. I think that is illegal to do in every state or at least most of them. And Gold's Gym corporate would not allow them to do that either. If anyone buys a lifetime membership from any gym they are idiots and deserve to get ripped off. That is just plain ignorant. Up until Golds was sold in 1999 it was the most successful gym chain in the world. Being associated with that brandname has made many many people multi millionaires. At it's peak the Gold's Gym name generated over a billion dollars worldwide a year. The problem with having a small independent is that they cannot compete with brand awareness and they cannot compete with what a larger gym can offer. The one problem that most of the larger clubs have is that do not provide a small area designated for people who don't want the crowds. The small gym cannot offer near the amount of services or amenities a larger club can. It is a fact (majority) that smaller independant gyms do not survive the arrival of a mega club. Sooner or later they will fold or sellout to the bigger club. Anyway, we ca argue and debate forever. I m tired now so I am done.
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Coach charges 1.3k an hour to train people.
That includes a "soapy suds" bodyslide , prostate massage and happy ending tho ;D
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Garage gym? Haha what a fucking joke.
Actually, Vince's latest concept is the "Broom Closet Gym"
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That includes a "soapy suds" bodyslide , prostate massage and happy ending tho ;D
HAHAHAH
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Melvin Goodrum enjoys being mounted by white men.
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Melvin Goodrum enjoys being mounted by white men.
Coach enjoys "mounting" black men.
Match made in heaven.
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Coach enjoys "mounting" black men.
Match made in heaven.
Maybe Coach will go to NC for Melvin's contest, if Melvin wins him and Joe can shower together and listen to Creed.
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all of the clients I was training didn't follow me to the next gym because they assumed I had knowledge
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By the way D&B has his annual earnings at $90,000. I think you were a little (alot) off. Nice try though
My god your not very bright..let me type slow..thats his reported income in a mostly cash business, so if hes reporting this much to IRS how much do you think hes really making? Are you sure your a businessman?
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My god your not very bright..let me type slow..thats his reported income in a mostly cash business, so if hes reporting this much to IRS how much do you think hes really making? Are you sure your a businessman?
I'll go with what is reported by D&B rather than you as would all creditors. But in reality I could care less. So he is not claiming all the money he makes to the IRS. I bet he appreciates you letting everyone know on here about that. ??? Anyway, I applaud him and he is the greatest personal trainer I have ever seen. ::) You have won and I have lost. I bow to your superiority. You know more than I do about everything. ::) I feel bad wasting almost 30 years in the business and helping several gyms start and marketing and promoting the largest Gold's Gym in the early 90's that did $1.4 million dollars from their 400 sq. ft. Pro Shop the first year of business alone, and had 13,000 members by year 3. I hope you accept my apology for doubting you. ::) I have no idea why I am debating this but it has been fun.
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any training pics yet vince?
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Both of the gyms i visit have cut back on PT staff significantly. They either get lopped down to 5 hours a week and "encouraged" to work part-time elsewhere, or they just get taken off the schedule for a while.
Those who contract independently and work in gyms... I just don't see them anymore.
maybe things are still pumping where you live. in SW FL, it's quite terrible for PTs right now.
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I wouldn't say supplements are that inexpensive. It isn't to far fetched to spend a few hundred a month on them
Bally's has been around for 20+ years, I find that far from a short time. I find it hard to believe that Gold's Gym sold lifetime memberships. I think that is illegal to do in every state or at least most of them. And Gold's Gym corporate would not allow them to do that either. If anyone buys a lifetime membership from any gym they are idiots and deserve to get ripped off. That is just plain ignorant. Up until Golds was sold in 1999 it was the most successful gym chain in the world. Being associated with that brandname has made many many people multi millionaires. At it's peak the Gold's Gym name generated over a billion dollars worldwide a year. The problem with having a small independent is that they cannot compete with brand awareness and they cannot compete with what a larger gym can offer. The one problem that most of the larger clubs have is that do not provide a small area designated for people who don't want the crowds. The small gym cannot offer near the amount of services or amenities a larger club can. It is a fact (majority) that smaller independant gyms do not survive the arrival of a mega club. Sooner or later they will fold or sellout to the bigger club. Anyway, we ca argue and debate forever. I m tired now so I am done.
Believe it Keith..it happenned and there were a number of people upset at me although I didn't have anything to do with it.
And no-one deserves to get ripped off and they aren't ignorant because of that. They trusted the owners and the name Gold's Gym and no reason to think otherwise.
And in any event,a lot of personal trainers want their independence from the gym AND lots of people are tired of the large, unfriendly chain gyms because they continue not to get into shape.
Most people use their memberships for a few days and then never come back to the gym ever and that happens just about everywhere. The gym is making money but people aren't getting results
People can say all they want about my ideas being stupid but I know better. The era of gyms isn't ending however the era of the PT Studio/Wellness Centers is beginning and I'm sorry if you don't recognize the industry trend.
I actually intend on opening my own studio once I complete my Massage Therapy License at Southwestern College (Sorry Basile, I actually do go to College) . I won't have to worry about commerical equipment because I sell it and the money I make from my online websites will provide the funding nessesary to get everything running. I won't need any bank loan whatsoever to get things going.
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Ya its hard to sell a pro shop in Hawaii, a monkey could do that and wasnt that Bob Berda who did that?
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BTW, try calling this a hole in the wall. Perl Personal Training Studio
http://holisticwellnessnetwork.com/Personal-Trainers-Montclair-NJ-Glen-Ridge-Verona-Cedar-Grove-Livingston-Short-Hills-Millburn-Summit-Berkeley-Heights-New-Providence-Murray-Hill-Chatham-Madison-Morristown-Caldwell-New-Jersey-Essex-Morris-County-Holistic-Wellness-Network-EFT/Training_Studio.html
This place is a gym's worst nightmare. You can't possibly not be impressed by this. That's the advantage of being independent and free from franchises...you can establish your own legacy, make your own rules, and do what you want in a gym and this place is very personalized and stylish.
I couldn't work out there. There's no squat rack, lack of benches, and I'd be worried about putting dents in that nice floor. :-\
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Both of the gyms i visit have cut back on PT staff significantly. They either get lopped down to 5 hours a week and "encouraged" to work part-time elsewhere, or they just get taken off the schedule for a while.
Those who contract independently and work in gyms... I just don't see them anymore.
maybe things are still pumping where you live. in SW FL, it's quite terrible for PTs right now.
Finally, some reality in this thread. As I said, earlier, in a recession an ultra-descretionary expense like a trainer will be the first thing to go. The next trend isn't big gyms or Wellness centers, it's people going to the park, running, bicycling and doing a few pushups and situps.
Vince, it's not too late to fill out an application with UPS or Fedex.
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Believe it Keith..it happenned and there were a number of people upset at me although I didn't have anything to do with it.
And no-one deserves to get ripped off and they aren't ignorant because of that. They trusted the owners and the name Gold's Gym and no reason to think otherwise.
And in any event,a lot of personal trainers want their independence from the gym AND lots of people are tired of the large, unfriendly chain gyms because they continue not to get into shape.
Most people use their memberships for a few days and then never come back to the gym ever and that happens just about everywhere. The gym is making money but people aren't getting results
People can say all they want about my ideas being stupid but I know better. The era of gyms isn't ending however the era of the PT Studio/Wellness Centers is beginning and I'm sorry if you don't recognize the industry trend.
I actually intend on opening my own studio once I complete my Massage Therapy License at Southwestern College (Sorry Basile, I actually do go to College) . I won't have to worry about commerical equipment because I sell it and the money I make from my online websites will provide the funding nessesary to get everything running. I won't need any bank loan whatsoever to get things going.
Vince, was that the Gold's off of Pelam Rd or Woodruff Rd?
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Finally, some reality in this thread. As I said, earlier, in a recession an ultra-descretionary expense like a trainer will be the first thing to go. The next trend isn't big gyms or Wellness centers, it's people going to the park, running, bicycling and doing a few pushups and situps.
Vince, it's not too late to fill out an application with UPS or Fedex.
Somehow I doubt people with discretionary income want to work out in a trailer.
There are so many treadmill, pilates, Body Pump, etc.. classes going on, it's a surprise people aren't trying to open minimalist gyms. Most guys would love to go to a $20-25/month gym with weights only. Hard part is finding a cheap enough space that isn't so far off the the beaten path. One of the problems is that commercial real estate tends to be the last thing to crack when the economy goes south. Also, a lot of people would rather have the tax write-off than take less money especially considering many of the costs are fixed.
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Somehow I doubt people with discretionary income want to work out in a trailer.
There are so many treadmill, pilates, Body Pump, etc.. classes going on, it's a surprise people aren't trying to open minimalist gyms. Most guys would love to go to a $20-25/month gym with weights only. Hard part is finding a cheap enough space that isn't so far off the the beaten path. One of the problems is that commercial real estate tends to be the last thing to crack when the economy goes south. Also, a lot of people would rather have the tax write-off than take less money especially considering many of the costs are fixed.
Good post. Where I live, there are a lot of stores that have been vacant for close to a year.
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At least Melvin Goodrum has won a trophy in a bodybuilding contest. How many here can claim that? Goatboy? Naw, that dude is probably in timeout where he belongs.
I mean honestly, what the f*ck is this?? Did you even somewhat diet or even train? Or did you just go there & show up? And Vince,so what he's got a trophy or 2. When there is only 2 in your class it's kinda hard NOT to get a trophy.
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Good post. Where I live, there are a lot of stores that have been vacant for close to a year.
It's a common misconception that every empty retail/warehouse space is losing money. Upkeep, plowing, landscaping, insurance, legal fees, etc... can really eat away at square foot costs. Some of those costs go down or away when a space is unoccupied, especially if the owner doesn't have a mortgage that needs factoring into overhead. Let's not even talk about pain in the ass tenants or costs associated with people who need a space built to suit.
An empty space could actually make money depending upon what a person's overall tax situation.
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Ya its hard to sell a pro shop in Hawaii, a monkey could do that and wasnt that Bob Berda who did that?
I don't know who that is. Odd Haugen owned the gym and I can't remember the guy who ran the Pro Shop but that wasn't the name. I was the Promotions and Marketing director there when it first opened and help setup the equipment. And if a monkey could do it then why when 24 Hour Fitness took over the exact location, the sales dipped below $250,000 for the year from the Pro Shop. And in fact the location on Kalakaua in Waikiki of 24 Hour Fitness continued to sell Gold's Gym products when the took over that location. I video taped the Pro Shop employee telling me that if they didn't have Gold's Gym shirts in there they wouldn't sell anything. Plus, since it is so easy to sell in Hawaii as you say and the smaller gyms are so much better. How do you explain why the smaller gyms don't do at least $100,000 a year from their pro shop and have 4,000+ members. There were quite a few smaller hole in the wall gyms there. Not now cause they were put under by 24 Hour Fitness (what's with that?). This is a dumb debate cause it is a little different in each market. But as a whole, smaller gyms do not make it. That is a fact. I do know the Wellness Centers are fast becoming popular. But, larger gyms that start providing this service will kill every smaller location and independant.
I moved to Vegas from Hawaii to open a chain of clubs. I had the financial backing and I spent over one year putting together a solid business plan that got me the best of the best helping me and going to manage the club. The current piece of shit economy has set everything back for I have no idea how long. But, the one thing I do is research and make sure everything is put together right. I must have done a pretty good job cause I had some very well known and respected people wanting to be involved. These are people who have been involved with some very very big projects. So, no matter what I may look like now I still know this industry and have the contacts to do things.
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I don't know who that is. Odd Haugen owned the gym and I can't remember the guy who ran the Pro Shop but that wasn't the name. I was the Promotions and Marketing director there when it first opened and help setup the equipment. And if a monkey could do it then why when 24 Hour Fitness took over the exact location, the sales dipped below $250,000 for the year from the Pro Shop. And in fact the location on Kalakaua in Waikiki of 24 Hour Fitness continued to sell Gold's Gym products when the took over that location. I video taped the Pro Shop employee telling me that if they didn't have Gold's Gym shirts in there they wouldn't sell anything. Plus, since it is so easy to sell in Hawaii as you say and the smaller gyms are so much better. How do you explain why the smaller gyms don't do at least $100,000 a year from their pro shop and have 4,000+ members. There were quite a few smaller hole in the wall gyms there. Not now cause they were put under by 24 Hour Fitness (what's with that?). This is a dumb debate cause it is a little different in each market. But as a whole, smaller gyms do not make it. That is a fact. I do know the Wellness Centers are fast becoming popular. But, larger gyms that start providing this service will kill every smaller location and independant.
I moved to Vegas from Hawaii to open a chain of clubs. I had the financial backing and I spent over one year putting together a solid business plan that got me the best of the best helping me and going to manage the club. The current piece of shit economy has set everything back for I have no idea how long. But, the one thing I do is research and make sure everything is put together right. I must have done a pretty good job cause I had some very well known and respected people wanting to be involved. These are people who have been involved with some very very big projects. So, no matter what I may look like now I still know this industry and have the contacts to do things.
Not throwing stones but weren't you out of business years ago?
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Vince, was that the Gold's off of Pelam Rd or Woodruff Rd?
Yep, right across from Bilo and McDonalds. They used to have a great restaurant next to it called Locos. They had the best steaks around. I'd usually go there during breaks
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I couldn't work out there. There's no squat rack, lack of benches, and I'd be worried about putting dents in that nice floor. :-\
The floor is actually a polymer wood inlay. You can drop a dumbbell and it won't leave a scratch. Those were only a few areas of the gym, it does have a freeweight section and they have Russian Kettlebell classes every day
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I don't know who that is. Odd Haugen owned the gym and I can't remember the guy who ran the Pro Shop but that wasn't the name. I was the Promotions and Marketing director there when it first opened and help setup the equipment. And if a monkey could do it then why when 24 Hour Fitness took over the exact location, the sales dipped below $250,000 for the year from the Pro Shop. And in fact the location on Kalakaua in Waikiki of 24 Hour Fitness continued to sell Gold's Gym products when the took over that location. I video taped the Pro Shop employee telling me that if they didn't have Gold's Gym shirts in there they wouldn't sell anything. Plus, since it is so easy to sell in Hawaii as you say and the smaller gyms are so much better. How do you explain why the smaller gyms don't do at least $100,000 a year from their pro shop and have 4,000+ members. There were quite a few smaller hole in the wall gyms there. Not now cause they were put under by 24 Hour Fitness (what's with that?). This is a dumb debate cause it is a little different in each market. But as a whole, smaller gyms do not make it. That is a fact. I do know the Wellness Centers are fast becoming popular. But, larger gyms that start providing this service will kill every smaller location and independant.
I moved to Vegas from Hawaii to open a chain of clubs. I had the financial backing and I spent over one year putting together a solid business plan that got me the best of the best helping me and going to manage the club. The current piece of shit economy has set everything back for I have no idea how long. But, the one thing I do is research and make sure everything is put together right. I must have done a pretty good job cause I had some very well known and respected people wanting to be involved. These are people who have been involved with some very very big projects. So, no matter what I may look like now I still know this industry and have the contacts to do things.
Larger Gyms can provide the service but they won't be able to be price competitive with a smaller facility because of the overhead. Bigger isn't always better
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Somehow I doubt people with discretionary income want to work out in a trailer.
There are so many treadmill, pilates, Body Pump, etc.. classes going on, it's a surprise people aren't trying to open minimalist gyms. Most guys would love to go to a $20-25/month gym with weights only. Hard part is finding a cheap enough space that isn't so far off the the beaten path. One of the problems is that commercial real estate tends to be the last thing to crack when the economy goes south. Also, a lot of people would rather have the tax write-off than take less money especially considering many of the costs are fixed.
If you open a minimalist gym, you'll then have to compete with a franchise gym and you'll often be on the losing end of the deal. Even if you were the only gym in town, you can't keep a place open charging only 20 bucks a month to members....that would be complete suicide.
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Larger Gyms can provide the service but they won't be able to be price competitive with a smaller facility because of the overhead. Bigger isn't always better
Actually a larger gym can offer lower prices because they deal in numbers. That is why here memberships are $18 a month and 24 Hour Fitness memberships are $28 a month. They deal in big numbers. A smaller gym could no way ever survive a membership war with the big boys. They would get destroyed. Overhead is lower but the potential income is even lower. They wouldn't be able to sell enough memberships to cover the overhead and plus they are linited to how many members could even fit into the space. Big gyms offer more than any smaller gym could. If done right they could provide the personal service too that smaller places offer. The problem with most of them is they don't offer it.
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If you open a minimalist gym, you'll then have to compete with a franchise gym and you'll often be on the losing end of the deal. Even if you were the only gym in town, you can't keep a place open charging only 20 bucks a month to members....that would be complete suicide.
I disagree and here's why;
Many franchise gyms don't allow chalk, loud music, swearing, yelling, calling each other fags, grunting, dumbells over 80 lbs and none of the raw aggression/testosterone/demons people attend gyms to exercise.
A basic gym would do fine providing it was in a low overhead location.
Where people go wrong is trying to imprint their own personality on a place instead of recognizing that members just want to be left alone. No one, except us, gives a fuck about our personalities. Most of our egos can't handle that simple truth so people will reinventing the wheel or building something that makes them feel good/validated instead of money. :)
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Actually a larger gym can offer lower prices because they deal in numbers. That is why here memberships are $18 a month and 24 Hour Fitness memberships are $28 a month. They deal in big numbers. A smaller gym could no way ever survive a membership war with the big boys. They would get destroyed. Overhead is lower but the potential income is even lower. They wouldn't be able to sell enough memberships to cover the overhead and plus they are linited to how many members could even fit into the space. Big gyms offer more than any smaller gym could. If done right they could provide the personal service too that smaller places offer. The problem with most of them is they don't offer it.
Most gyms won't add specialized services because their main goal is memberships, memberships, memberships regardless of whether they use it or not. Personal Trainers are no more than the cheerleaders of the gym to get MORE membership.
That's where you are right....it is about the number of memberships and not whether the individual is successful in their goals or not. That's why the private studios are coming strong. People want results, not a sales pitch or to be another number
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I disagree and here's why;
Many franchise gyms don't allow chalk, loud music, swearing, yelling, calling each other fags, grunting, dumbells over 80 lbs and none of the raw aggression/testosterone/demons people attend gyms to exercise.
A basic gym would do fine providing it was in a low overhead location.
Where people go wrong is trying to imprint their own personality on a place instead of recognizing that members just want to be left alone. No one, except us, gives a fuck about our personalities. Most of our egos can't handle that simple truth so people will reinventing the wheel or building something that makes them feel good/validated instead of money. :)
That's where you would lose money. The number of people who fit the profile you described is very low. You would go out of business very quickly as there would not be enough memberships to stay open. That would also be one shitty gym as someone would have to pay for all the damaged goods from trashing the place.
And the only franchise that doesn't allow that stuff is Planet Fitness.
The Gold's Gym I trained at had dumbbells up to 175 pounds apiece, played heavy metal and rap music and grunting was allowed as well as chalk although I don't see any reason to call each other fags in the gym unless you're trying to hook up later or something.
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Yep, right across from Bilo and McDonalds. They used to have a great restaurant next to it called Locos. They had the best steaks around. I'd usually go there during breaks
I knew the owners and i knew that place was gonna fold.
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That's where you would lose money. The number of people who fit the profile you described is very low. You would go out of business very quickly as there would not be enough memberships to stay open. That would also be one shitty gym as someone would have to pay for all the damaged goods from trashing the place.
And the only franchise that doesn't allow that stuff is Planet Fitness.
The Gold's Gym I trained at had dumbbells up to 175 pounds apiece, played heavy metal and rap music and grunting was allowed as well as chalk although I don't see any reason to call each other fags in the gym unless you're trying to hook up later or something.
Is "let fools trash the place" written anywhere in my post?
Every serious lifter would gladly skip going someplace where half the people were either doing cardio or camped out on equipment between sets. There are enough serious lifters in most towns to keep a basic, no frills gym doing well providing the overhead is right. Sure, the owner would be driving a Benz and there would have to be advertising but people would support a clean, well run gym.
People who need a trainer to count reps or can't read a simple fitness article wouldn't feel comfortable in that atmosphere.
By "well run" I specifically mean equipment in good order, clean, organized entry and no sales going on aside from the normal protein shakes, bars and other typical gym crap.
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I knew the owners and i knew that place was gonna fold.
Coke is a guy.
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Is "let fools trash the place" written anywhere in my post?
Every serious lifter would gladly skip going someplace where half the people were either doing cardio or camped out on equipment between sets. There are enough serious lifters in most towns to keep a basic, no frills gym doing well providing the overhead is right. Sure, the owner would be driving a Benz and there would have to be advertising but people would support a clean, well run gym.
People who need a trainer to count reps or can't read a simple fitness article wouldn't feel comfortable in that atmosphere.
By "well run" I specifically mean equipment in good order, clean, organized entry and no sales going on aside from the normal protein shakes, bars and other typical gym crap.
There is not enough "serious lifters" around to sustain the cost of running the gym even if you got them all.
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Easy answer everybody who visited Hawaii and worked out wanted a golds gym tank to take home , thats a tourist club, Golds gym meant something then when they were the name in fitness and bodybuiling was popular, what does a 24 hour shirt with no location printed on do for people...nothing. 24 hour has horrible pro shops
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Coke is a ####.
Tell Andy that too!! Sniff Sniff....I always wondered why his knose was always running
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Easy answer everybody who visited Hawaii and worked out wanted a golds gym tank to take home , thats a tourist club, Golds gym meant something then when they were the name in fitness and bodybuiling was popular, what does a 24 hour shirt with no location printed on do for people...nothing. 24 hour has horrible pro shops
That proves my point. Franchised Gyms like Gold's and World's has valuable brand awareness which is the #1 reason you get any franchise. People recognize the name and want what they have. Marketing a franchise is a whole lot easier and cheaper than trying to do it from scratch with an independant gym.
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Worlds is now a failed franchise, Ballys has now been bankrupt twice in 17 months, Golds has a bad connotation as a muscle head gym in most markets, 24 hour is a corporate gym that has failed in a couple of markets already tell me again how name recognition helps?
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The concept of what a gym is has changed over the years. When the original Golds opened it was about 3000 square feet. The current one at Venice is 10 times that. Aerobic classes and machines are now included in every large gym. Instead of catering to bodybuilders clubs now try to cater to everyone. It all comes down to the needs of various people.
Women are not that easy to get and keep in clubs. That is why so many women's only clubs have flourished. Women with average figures don't like to be seen by men in that condition. Anyway, who knows what is in their minds!
Melvin is probably right about his approach to club size. The 20,000+ square foot club is an expensive operation. Consider that these large, modern clubs are open from 6 am until 9 pm or longer. Imagine the costs of rent, air-conditioning and staff? Gyms are clearly a high-investment-low return business. Melvin figures if he sets up a small club and provides more personal attention that this is what will benefit members and he will be successful. There are no guarantees in the gym business. People have been seeking 'the formula' for decades. Sometimes a formula works for years and then it folds. It truly is difficult to predict where the industry is going.
A butcher once told me that he had to change his shop around every 10 years. That surprised me. The concept of what a butcher shop was has changed and keeps changing. The way products are displayed, lighting, etc. Gyms are no different. When over 20% of the population goes to a health club that means there will always be some bodybuilders and other serious trainees. These people have special needs. Have you noticed that the general public have little or no idea about what equipment is good equipment. Bodybuilders are usually more particular about having effective equipment. So there will be a market for a really well-equipped club in most towns over 50,000 people. You have to wonder why 2 gyms are necessary in a small town like Sylva with only 2500 people. When you go to small towns the gyms usually have primitive equipment. Of course, every club advertises that they are fully equipped.
I think a club with really good gym equipment and some cardio machines can be viable. If the club has knowledgeable trainers it could make a huge difference. The huge clubs might have trouble staying profitable. Chains are also a worry when times get tough or if market penetration rises. The city of Perth was interesting several decades ago. They sold lifetime memberships and just about everyone was joining. Eventually the whole chain collapsed because it was not sustainable. Lessons have been learned but what we see is diversification and new concepts emerging. It is hardly a static industry. Keith is correct in that you need to have experience, sales and marketing staff and a good business plan to succeed in this industry. I can't imagine Melvin being successful in a one-horse town when that place already has to gyms. It isn't going to happen but of course Melvin can prove us wrong.
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You can beat anybody if your marketing is good, hell Curves sold shit for years on good marketing . Golds name is worth nothing now and they raised their franchise fee went through the roof, totally not worth it.
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Curves is a phenomenon for sure. How the %#%# did a club with hydraulic machines even survive long enough to make a profit yet alone expand all over the place? Someone clearly saw how foolish women are about what they perceive will happen to them if they use resistance machines. Can anyone besides Goodrum get results on those hydraulic circuit machines? A mystery. Curves sets up without showers and calls itself a health club. The size of their clubs is small and the investment low. Good if you can get away with it. They have lasted longer than they deserve. Heck, I know people who go there! They are doing lots of things right. It proves that marketing and concept is absolutely crucial here. Just being the best isn't always sufficient. You have to get the word out there.
What works in some places or countries might not work in others. Everyone planning a new club has to decide what he is going to offer and how big a premise he requires. Most gym owners are not good businessmen so that is why so many decline after a while. Knowing about exercise and bodybuilding doesn't guarantee success in this industry. What Goodrum is talking about could work. However, guys like him with fringe qualifications don't deserve to succeed. What does he really know that people will pay money for? He isn't going to give them professional, quality equipment, either. If he is smart he will hire knowledgeable people.
Back in the sixties there were gym chains around that had basic, chromed equipment and various vibration machines. Sounds like Goodrum is going to resurrect that kind of club but without the chrome!
Sir Richard Branson is enterring the gym industry in Australia and is making an impact. Go visit his Virginactive site and see what their concept is. Quite refreshing and filled with every gimmick around. This is what a successful businessman has put together. Lots of people are talking about how great it is and are joining. He makes it easy to quit because you can give 3 days notice and stop them billing you every fortnight. I will go there today and report back. Businessmen usually provide the customers with what marketing tells them they want. Gym owners and bodybuilders try to guess what they want instead of doing marketing research.
www.virginactive.com.au/
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Vince B. quit rambling on and on you old turd.
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Worlds is now a failed franchise, Ballys has now been bankrupt twice in 17 months, Golds has a bad connotation as a muscle head gym in most markets, 24 hour is a corporate gym that has failed in a couple of markets already tell me again how name recognition helps?
lA failed World's Gym makes 100's of more money than a small hole in the wall. Once Planet Fitness bought World's Gym it went downhill cause they didn't do shit for the franchisees yet raised fees. Once Joe died Mike got rid of it. Now Planet Fitness sold it and since they owned it they had lost 100+ franchises around the world. The problem with Ballys is far from not having clients. They have more clients nationwide than any gym franchise or corporate by far. Again, this is the horrible management problem. Gold's too. Once Pete and company sold out Gold's was due to fail cause the owners did not know how to run it. But they did make a $50+ million profit in 3 years when they sold it and the new owners will make probably $200+ million profit when the y sell it or probably more when they go public. Gold's has less gyms now than they had in 1999 yet they are worth more. Please don't make me explain this. Any agruement you have with franchised gym against independant is a lost cause, because numbers don't lie. Ask 1 million people in your state if they heard of Gold's Gym or Bill Pec's gym (or whatever the name) and see who wins. I can't believe you would argue over which is better name recognition. And you ask me if I know business. Wow! amazing
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You can beat anybody if your marketing is good, hell Curves sold shit for years on good marketing . Golds name is worth nothing now and they raised their franchise fee went through the roof, totally not worth it.
I agree with the Gold's Statement but you don't why they did that but I do. The people who run Gold's now are NOT gym people they are college grads who sole purpose is to make the corporation money and that's it. The way they are doing it is not popular and has ruined the largest international gym chain in the world. But, in the end they will raise $100's of millions of dollars when no way in hell would an independant do anything near that ever. And you are rigth about marketing too. But, there is a limit to what you can market. No matter how could your marketing is in the gym business if you can't provide it then it won't work. Any club that opens nowadays that is less than 15,000 in size is going to struggle. They just can't provide the services and amenities and bring in enough members to support themselves in such a small area. How can a small club provide services that people want nowadays. And if they can it takes room. How may members can you fit in your gym a day. LVAC here on eastern averages 6000 members a day and the new one does at least that plus anther 2000 a day. A small gym like Goodrum and you are talking about can't move that number of people through it in a month barely (most of the time NO). You know how may smaller gyms were bought up or converted to Gold's Gyms, World Gym and other franchised clubs. Plenty! Because the owners knew they couldn't compete with them. But, now Gold's is so fucked up that now they are losing franchisees and club. But then they now have 100+ corporate clubs and worth more money.
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The problems members have is the same everywhere. They have to know what to do and then keep motivated or they drop out. The way clubs are evolving memberships and personal training are separate. People without much money can't afford instruction. That is not good for longevity. Curves provides constant help and encouragement so solves the instruction and motivation problem. Big gyms suck at showing interest to members. Thus, it is possible to set up a smaller club and provide really good instruction and be there all the time for members.
Big cities can have specialist clubs and that surely happens in Los Angeles and has been that way for decades. I recall the first time I visited Los Angeles in 1968. When I drove through Hollywood to Santa Monica I passed lots of health clubs. They were everywhere it seemed. At the time there was a dungeon gym in Santa Monica and Golds Gym on Pacific Avenue. In Studio City there was Vince's Gym. That was the first gym that sold T-shirts in a big way and courses through the mail. Where are they now? Keith is right about that. On the other hand would the original Golds still be viable if resurrected exactly like it was when Arnold and others trained there from 1968?
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Virginactive is a revelation. Dumbbells go up to about 40 Kg or about 90 pounds. Equipment is Technogym and the better quality from that company. Everything looks impressive but the equipment area is not as big as it could be. Lots of rooms downstairs for aerobics, spin, etc., with wooden floors and glass everywhere. Logos and colour are everywhere. 3 selling offices near reception. 25 metre indoor pool adjacent to reception and open to the equipment areas. Not sure how that will be in the winter. Okay, now re smells, etc. Changerooms bright and shiny. Whole place is bright with light. 178 lockers. There is a basketball court outside. Children are catered to. If Goodrum saw this gym he would be impressed. Women are joining up. In the 3 months since they opened they have about 4000 members. About $100 to join and $45 every two weeks. Give them 3 days notice and you can cancel your membership. This place is a going concern. Big, bright, and interesting. Staff are young, friendly and enthusiastic. Lots to like about the place. Bodybuilders would be able to train here, too. No worries there. Not sure how it copes with the busy times but when I viisted there were lots and lots of vacant machines. They have an huge spa pool and sauna to relax in. Child minding, of course, plus activity rooms for kids and youngsters. I believe it cost something like $7 million to set up. Lots of staff there. Two were working the health bar. 3 sales staff, 2 on reception, 3 on child minding and then others in the gym area, plus office staff. Running costs would exceed $40,000/week. Not for the meek or weak!
Now what was Goodrum's plan? Oh, yes, 1500 square feet personal training studio with a few pilates units and a couple of vibration machines. Virginactive had a room of those vibration machines, too.
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Virginactive is a revelation. Dumbbells go up to about 40 Kg or about 90 pounds. Equipment is Technogym and the better quality from that company. Everything looks impressive but the equipment area is not as big as it could be. Lots of rooms downstairs for aerobics, spin, etc., with wooden floors and glass everywhere. Logos and colour are everywhere. 3 selling offices near reception. 25 metre indoor pool adjacent to reception and open to the equipment areas. Not sure how that will be in the winter. Okay, now re smells, etc. Changerooms bright and shiny. Whole place is bright with light. 178 lockers. There is a basketball court outside. Children are catered to. If Goodrum saw this gym he would be impressed. Women are joining up. In the 3 months since they opened they have about 4000 members. About $100 to join and $45 every two weeks. Give them 3 days notice and you can cancel your membership. This place is a going concern. Big, bright, and interesting. Staff are young, friendly and enthusiastic. Lots to like about the place. Bodybuilders would be able to train here, too. No worries there. Not sure how it copes with the busy times but when I viisted there were lots and lots of vacant machines. They have an huge spa pool and sauna to relax in. Child minding, of course, plus activity rooms for kids and youngsters. I believe it cost something like $7 million to set up. Lots of staff there. Two were working the health bar. 3 sales staff, 2 on reception, 3 on child minding and then others in the gym area, plus office staff. Running costs would exceed $40,000/week. Not for the meek or weak!
Now what was Goodrum's plan? Oh, yes, 1500 square feet personal training studio with a few pilates units and a couple of vibration machines. Virginactive had a room of those vibration machines, too.
Basile, you are as dumb as you are old. While I will have group pilates classes, this will mostly consist of standard commerical equipment. Obviously I would have a variety of clients so it would only be required.
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Bump ;D
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Bump ;D
Like the ones in the roll around your waist?
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Melvin seems impervious to good information. He clings to the primitive things he knows.
Went back to the Virginactive club. Can't call it a gym. They give away about 200 copies of the Sun Herald today. Each copy costs $2.10. Saturday papers cost $2.40. A member coming early and picking up a paper could save himself over 10 dollars a week. Membership is about 23 dollars a week so there you are. There were 4 people behind the counter at the cafe. Staff everywhere but most very young and enthusiastic. They had a family day in the pool using 2 lanes and little noisy kids were everywhere for about 2 hours. Not the best environment. I might have closed the pool off to the rest of the gym but had glass walls. What do I know?
As wonderful as these modern clubs are they still are not perfect. There were no biceps or triceps machines nor a standing calf machine. Bodybuilders would love the atmosphere and the more than 50% of women who go there, however it is not a place to do serious training. I mean, how can anyone other than Goodrum set up a fully equipped gym without a biceps machine? A mystery. Women and the deconditioned market feel comfortable there and are joining in droves. Compare that to the typical gym that struggles to find members. Sir Richard has done his homework and come up with a good business model. Gym owners would be wise to see what he is doing and make sure they do most of the good things there.
A very well equipped smaller gym can still do well if the instruction is excellent. I wonder how the public perceives being instructed by quite young staff? That club could cost about $60,000/week to operate. It still generates a gross profit of about $40,000/week and it has been open for about 3 months. That is amazing. Apparently one of their clubs in Johannesburg has 15,000 members. Multiply that by $23/wk. That is over $300,000 per week.
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Melvin seems impervious to good information. He clings to the primitive things he knows.
Went back to the Virginactive club. Can't call it a gym. They give away about 200 copies of the Sun Herald today. Each copy costs $2.10. Saturday papers cost $2.40. A member coming early and picking up a paper could save himself over 10 dollars a week. Membership is about 23 dollars a week so there you are. There were 4 people behind the counter at the cafe. Staff everywhere but most very young and enthusiastic. They had a family day in the pool using 2 lanes and little noisy kids were everywhere for about 2 hours. Not the best environment. I might have closed the pool off to the rest of the gym but had glass walls. What do I know?
As wonderful as these modern clubs are they still are not perfect. There were no biceps or triceps machines nor a standing calf machine. Bodybuilders would love the atmosphere and the more than 50% of women who go there, however it is not a place to do serious training. I mean, how can anyone other than Goodrum set up a fully equipped gym without a biceps machine? A mystery. Women and the deconditioned market feel comfortable there and are joining in droves. Compare that to the typical gym that struggles to find members. Sir Richard has done his homework and come up with a good business model. Gym owners would be wise to see what he is doing and make sure they do most of the good things there.
A very well equipped smaller gym can still do well if the instruction is excellent. I wonder how the public perceives being instructed by quite young staff? That club could cost about $60,000/week to operate. It still generates a gross profit of about $40,000/week and it has been open for about 3 months. That is amazing. Apparently one of their clubs in Johannesburg has 15,000 members. Multiply that by $23/wk. That is over $300,000 per week.
Vince has everything he needs right in his own home. Nothing fancy about his training, just old school hard work.
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vince is training in the deepest secret somewhere in a dungeon. he avoids talking to the outside world and everything that can disturb his focus.
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Melvin seems impervious to good information. He clings to the primitive things he knows.
Went back to the Virginactive club. Can't call it a gym. They give away about 200 copies of the Sun Herald today. Each copy costs $2.10. Saturday papers cost $2.40. A member coming early and picking up a paper could save himself over 10 dollars a week. Membership is about 23 dollars a week so there you are. There were 4 people behind the counter at the cafe. Staff everywhere but most very young and enthusiastic. They had a family day in the pool using 2 lanes and little noisy kids were everywhere for about 2 hours. Not the best environment. I might have closed the pool off to the rest of the gym but had glass walls. What do I know?
As wonderful as these modern clubs are they still are not perfect. There were no biceps or triceps machines nor a standing calf machine. Bodybuilders would love the atmosphere and the more than 50% of women who go there, however it is not a place to do serious training. I mean, how can anyone other than Goodrum set up a fully equipped gym without a biceps machine? A mystery. Women and the deconditioned market feel comfortable there and are joining in droves. Compare that to the typical gym that struggles to find members. Sir Richard has done his homework and come up with a good business model. Gym owners would be wise to see what he is doing and make sure they do most of the good things there.
A very well equipped smaller gym can still do well if the instruction is excellent. I wonder how the public perceives being instructed by quite young staff? That club could cost about $60,000/week to operate. It still generates a gross profit of about $40,000/week and it has been open for about 3 months. That is amazing. Apparently one of their clubs in Johannesburg has 15,000 members. Multiply that by $23/wk. That is over $300,000 per week.
Oh please, Basile. A gym can function without those items....ever heard of freeweights and a wood block for your calves.
The majority of gyms can honestly be stripped down into a much smaller profile and lots of gyms are bloated with waste spending.
Ultimately, gyms are not serving there original purpose which is to get people in shape. Instead they are just focused on selling memberships to make money and once they do that, then they are pretty much ignored and forgotten as they go on to the next person.
Look at Planet Fitness....they have a fucking Pizza Night to attract more member. What kind of shit is that??? Obviously, the big gyms have come to the point where they will do anything to get members.
Because of all of this, the PT studios have now come into place. Curves is successful because people are getting results despite some pretty inferior equipment. However, the personal edge is what makes the difference.
My center will be about the client first. They'll come back because they'll see the results...not because they have a 3 year contract
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Melvin is the perennial expert on everything relating to gyms, bodybuilding, equipment and nutrition.
I am telling him what the formula is to get people in and he talks about blocks of wood and free weights. First we had Goodrum's guide to Trademark Calves and now we have his gym model.
Stripped down gyms are not going to do it any more. The public want more. The only way a small gym is going to make it is through excellent equipment and excellent instruction.
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Melvin is the perennial expert on everything relating to gyms, bodybuilding, equipment and nutrition.
I am telling him what the formula is to get people in and he talks about blocks of wood and free weights. First we had Goodrum's guide to Trademark Calves and now we have his gym model.
Stripped down gyms are not going to do it any more. The public want more. The only way a small gym is going to make it is through excellent equipment and excellent instruction.
You've been running a gym for years. Where's your millions of dollars at????
The public wants to get in shape and doesn't care how nice a gym is. That's why Power 90 and Billy Blanks videos sell. All of the best equipment in the world doesn't matter if nobody is getting in shape.
When you open a gym, your main goal is to get the most memberships...not to help people. When you open a PT studio, you have to produce real results to stay in business.
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Vince G this thread has had 1000 more hits than the Australian Grand Prix.OMG you are more interesting to Getbiggers than a IFBB Pro show.How do you feel stealing the GLORY.
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Vince G this thread has had 1000 more hits than the Australian Grand Prix.OMG you are more interesting to Getbiggers than a IFBB Pro show.How do you feel stealing the GLORY.
You should see this place the day I competed in 2006. It was the same day as the Atlantic City Pro.
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Vince G start a thread about this Phenomenon Vince G bigger than Australian Grand Prix.See how many hits you get.
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Holy Macrel Goodrum you don't honestly believe your shit do you? Are you telling us that a gym without all the equipment they have would do better if they didn't have it. Are you that stupid or just playing. See you are small minded it shows. How do you run a gym with thousands of members or even hundreds without the equipment to workout. You little piece of shit studio will do if you are lucky a few hundred dollars a month in business. People want a professional looking and operated gym to go to. Not a place that wants to cuts corners by not providing what is needed. Why do you think the mega clubs look so nice and have 200 pieces of cardio. You are going to have one bike in your place. What happens when 2 people want to use it or it breaks down. you have NO idea what you are doing. Other than Queer Vissy I bet you don't get another client. How can you rag on Vince Basile when he has been in business for 25 years or more running a gym. I don't get how anybody can tell anyone how to run a business they have never been involved with. All your ideas don't even sound good. Sometimes people's idea at least sound good but may not work in the end but your ideas suck from the beginning. I swear you are dumber and more ignorant than almost any kid I have ever worked with or seen in the Special Olympics. Face it and give it up.
You do not know what you are doing and all you are going to do is embarrass Queer Vissy. Think about what you are putting him through. He probably already covers his face when you guys go out in public. Think about what you are doing to him and your love life. He may not be able to get a hard-on because he will be thinking how dumb you are and not be able to concentrate on ramming it up your ass. I bet already he thinks about Danielson or Goatboy while he is shoving his tiny pecker into your zit covered ass. For once think about someone else. You'll thank me in the end (pardon the pun)
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Onlyme you can't post that without that famous pic of Vince in the Toilet.You know the one that needs to be posted.
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For what it's worth, my old gym was basic as you like. Five cardio machines, all the rest was free weights, handmade and welded together years ago. It was clean, and relatively tidy, but still basic. A big franchise opened up, literally 100yards down the road, all kinds of deals, sauna, health suite, swimming pool, training sessions, etc.
Three years later, it's shut down. People got sick of it. Minimum wage 150lb trainers telling you what to do, stupid rules about not making any noise while you worked out, extended contracts which people couldn't get out of.
I spoke to the owner of the basic gym last week, and everyone who got attracted to the franchise wanted somewhere else to train, so went to his place. No contracts, you can pay weekly, monthly, daily, whatever. There are only 3 staff, 1 of whom gets paid, and business is doing so well that he has leased the floor above to extend and create a 'Leg Loft' he called it.
People don't want fancy machines and shit like that in the current climate, just somewhere friendly and suitably equipped to workout, at a reasonable price. I wish I still lived there so I could go to that gym.
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I have been in the gym business since 1967. I have owned my own gym since August 1971. Surviving for this long means you have to be doing a lot of things right. However, imagine how amazed I am when Fitness First and now Virginactive can open a club and have something like 2,000 members before they open their doors! That is competition. In addition to that swimming pools and various social clubs are installing big fitness clubs for their members. Castle Hill RSL is one example. They have a huge complex there. 32 treadmills. Sure these businesses often install some of the wrong equipment but their research indicates what people want. Thus, they get heaps of cardio machines, a full line of Life Fitness, Nautilus, Cybex or Technogym equipment. For free weights they have up to 145 pound dumbbells and a line of Hammer plate loaded machines. The Hammer machines I think are a mistake. One or two of their pin-loaded units would be sufficient. However, every large modern gym to open in Sydney have those Hammer machines. What does that tell you? It is all about perception and what people want. They heard Hammer has some good machines so order a line of those machines.
I challenge the idea that Curves clubs get much in the way of results. Goodrum is full of it. He lives in the backwoods of the Smoky Mountains and thinks he is informed. I think his posts in this forum reveal the lack of experience and knowledge re gyms and what business will be successful. Just because some dudes are successful at personal training doesn't mean Goodrum will be. That much is certain. I can just see his 1000 square foot studio with a few Pilates machines, and a few weights and benches with his second place trophy and diplommas hung on the wall. That is not a formula for success. Goodrum is a bona fide buffoon and has no clue about what to do in business.
I suggest everyone actually visit successful clubs and see what they are doing. If the contracts are a problem then set up with short contracts like Virginactive are doing. Ordinary people can join that quality club for about $150 to get started and then only $23/week. How good is that? I saw a former gym owner training there. He seemed to be enjoying the place. I wouldn't mind training there myself. Gym owners always enjoy training at someone else's club. When we are in our own gyms there are people to talk to and equipment, etc., to attend to.
What Keith is trying to get through to Mr Goodrum is that a good setup is going to be both large and expensive. You can't take a shortcut and install just basic equipment. Melvin has been talking to people living in the backwoods who probably can't afford to pay for a membership. I have seen with my own eyes who have joined Virginactive and those are the same customers I want to attract. It really is amusing because every single gym owner I have known wants to attract women and businessmen to their premises. Even Joe Gold sold his gym to get away from the muscleheads! He started up World Gym to give jobs to his mates like Zabo and Eddie.
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For what it's worth, my old gym was basic as you like. Five cardio machines, all the rest was free weights, handmade and welded together years ago. It was clean, and relatively tidy, but still basic. A big franchise opened up, literally 100yards down the road, all kinds of deals, sauna, health suite, swimming pool, training sessions, etc.
Three years later, it's shut down. People got sick of it. Minimum wage 150lb trainers telling you what to do, stupid rules about not making any noise while you worked out, extended contracts which people couldn't get out of.
I spoke to the owner of the basic gym last week, and everyone who got attracted to the franchise wanted somewhere else to train, so went to his place. No contracts, you can pay weekly, monthly, daily, whatever. There are only 3 staff, 1 of whom gets paid, and business is doing so well that he has leased the floor above to extend and create a 'Leg Loft' he called it.
People don't want fancy machines and shit like that in the current climate, just somewhere friendly and suitably equipped to workout, at a reasonable price. I wish I still lived there so I could go to that gym.
I will bet that while the new gym was operating the basic gym owner was wondering what to do. If he was smart he would have improved his club and premises. It is easy to fail in the gym business. I wouldn't be so bold as to assume I knew why particular clubs folded. That is just guessing.
My point is quite simple. Why are most gyms plodding along whereas new, exciting clubs attract thousands of members? Clearly the new clubs are offering what the public wants.
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Holy Macrel Goodrum you don't honestly believe your shit do you? Are you telling us that a gym without all the equipment they have would do better if they didn't have it. Are you that stupid or just playing. See you are small minded it shows. How do you run a gym with thousands of members or even hundreds without the equipment to workout. You little piece of shit studio will do if you are lucky a few hundred dollars a month in business. People want a professional looking and operated gym to go to. Not a place that wants to cuts corners by not providing what is needed. Why do you think the mega clubs look so nice and have 200 pieces of cardio. You are going to have one bike in your place. What happens when 2 people want to use it or it breaks down. you have NO idea what you are doing. Other than Queer Vissy I bet you don't get another client. How can you rag on Vince Basile when he has been in business for 25 years or more running a gym. I don't get how anybody can tell anyone how to run a business they have never been involved with. All your ideas don't even sound good. Sometimes people's idea at least sound good but may not work in the end but your ideas suck from the beginning. I swear you are dumber and more ignorant than almost any kid I have ever worked with or seen in the Special Olympics. Face it and give it up.
You do not know what you are doing and all you are going to do is embarrass Queer Vissy. Think about what you are putting him through. He probably already covers his face when you guys go out in public. Think about what you are doing to him and your love life. He may not be able to get a hard-on because he will be thinking how dumb you are and not be able to concentrate on ramming it up your ass. I bet already he thinks about Danielson or Goatboy while he is shoving his tiny pecker into your zit covered ass. For once think about someone else. You'll thank me in the end (pardon the pun)
Yes, he should launch a successful gym like yours! ;D
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Yes, he should launch a successful gym like yours! ;D
I bet I have had more successful gyms than you. I guess that's all that counts on here in this thread. By the way, have you and Goodrum gone out before. I always wondered that. He seems like your type.
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Holy Macrel Goodrum you don't honestly believe your shit do you? Are you telling us that a gym without all the equipment they have would do better if they didn't have it. Are you that stupid or just playing. See you are small minded it shows. How do you run a gym with thousands of members or even hundreds without the equipment to workout. You little piece of shit studio will do if you are lucky a few hundred dollars a month in business. People want a professional looking and operated gym to go to. Not a place that wants to cuts corners by not providing what is needed. Why do you think the mega clubs look so nice and have 200 pieces of cardio. You are going to have one bike in your place. What happens when 2 people want to use it or it breaks down. you have NO idea what you are doing. Other than Queer Vissy I bet you don't get another client. How can you rag on Vince Basile when he has been in business for 25 years or more running a gym. I don't get how anybody can tell anyone how to run a business they have never been involved with. All your ideas don't even sound good. Sometimes people's idea at least sound good but may not work in the end but your ideas suck from the beginning. I swear you are dumber and more ignorant than almost any kid I have ever worked with or seen in the Special Olympics. Face it and give it up.
You do not know what you are doing and all you are going to do is embarrass Queer Vissy. Think about what you are putting him through. He probably already covers his face when you guys go out in public. Think about what you are doing to him and your love life. He may not be able to get a hard-on because he will be thinking how dumb you are and not be able to concentrate on ramming it up your ass. I bet already he thinks about Danielson or Goatboy while he is shoving his tiny pecker into your zit covered ass. For once think about someone else. You'll thank me in the end (pardon the pun)
Absolutely not, Keith. I was stating that a person doesn't need any equipment at all to get in shape, not that it wasn't essential to operating a gym. Why don't you wipe the doughnut filling out of your eyes and actually read what I write before making a goofy comment like that.
And as far as things are concerned, I've forgotten more about personal training than you'll ever know about it. My ideals are based from my experience as a personal trainer at those mega-gyms and most of the time I was nothing more than a salesman rather than someone who can help a person get in shape.
Given the options, I'd rather actually help people than help fat ass mega-gyms owners like you sign people to 3 year contracts/ debts. If that means having significantly less equipment to work with than a regular gym, so be it.
BTW, keep my fiance out of this because I don't talk about your wife or anything like that. Honestly, I really expect for a loser like you to sink so low...after all...fat people do sink low due to the crushing weight
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For what it's worth, my old gym was basic as you like. Five cardio machines, all the rest was free weights, handmade and welded together years ago. It was clean, and relatively tidy, but still basic. A big franchise opened up, literally 100yards down the road, all kinds of deals, sauna, health suite, swimming pool, training sessions, etc.
Three years later, it's shut down. People got sick of it. Minimum wage 150lb trainers telling you what to do, stupid rules about not making any noise while you worked out, extended contracts which people couldn't get out of.
I spoke to the owner of the basic gym last week, and everyone who got attracted to the franchise wanted somewhere else to train, so went to his place. No contracts, you can pay weekly, monthly, daily, whatever. There are only 3 staff, 1 of whom gets paid, and business is doing so well that he has leased the floor above to extend and create a 'Leg Loft' he called it.
People don't want fancy machines and shit like that in the current climate, just somewhere friendly and suitably equipped to workout, at a reasonable price. I wish I still lived there so I could go to that gym.
That's how it goes. I trained at Lee Haney's Old Gym, the GAC back in 2005 for a year. The place had Nautilus and Universal equipment that was older than me but it was in great condition and I got some of the best workouts there. It wasn't big or had a swimming pool or 200 pieces of exercise equipment but it had the atmosphere and real lifters in there that was prob the reason Haney did go there rather than the other big gyms around.
Like I said, while I gym has to have proper training equipment, you don't need a lot of bloat. The problem with mega-gym franchises is the excessive overhead which then entails the endless task of signing memberships to feed the machine and less care for the actual members of the gym who are stuck with long contracts.
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vince what show are youdoing
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Vince , have you ever lifted weights or been in shape just once in your life?
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Interesting discussions here. Here's a bit of updated and factual ammunition for either side
The Las Vegas Athletic Club has a good number of very fine "gyms" in the LV basin.
Their newest club in in the vicinity of Flamingo and Hwy 215 about 6 miles west of the Strip.
The club is 85,000 square feet on two floors and caters to serious weight lifting athletes (they even have their own fully equipped room) and the general public who merely like to stay in decent shape.
It has over a hundred aerobic devices and just about every piece of equipment available from the top equipment manufacturers - Hoist, Nautilus, etc.
It's definitely the most well loaded gym I've even seen and I have seen a lot of them throughout the west coast and the orient.
It has a couple of lap pools and excellent locker rooms and a counter serving various snacks, salads, drinks, etc.
At present the membership costs $22 a month but if you pay the full two year load up front, you get an extra year for free and after those three years pass, your yearly membership will cost less about $9 a month. These figures are not precise but they are close to the actual fees (might be a dollar off one way or another).
The gym is constantly busy but there is enough equipment to accomodate everyone except on Monday evenings between the hours of 4 to 6. Then you usually have to wait to hop on one of the aerobic machines.
I never counted but I figure that there must be over 300 people in the facility whenever I am there in the early evening hours. If and when I train at Gold's here in town I seldom see any more than ten people going through a workout but I am never in a Gold's at peak hours so they are more than likely more busy then, but no way as popular at the LVAC's.
Keith can present more accurate figures on both these clubs. He knows this stuff professionally.
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Melvin has the proverbial sour grapes. He would like a great club for himself but does not have the money. So he has to come up with a basic facility that would do the job. In America and Australia basic gyms are not going to be viable. You might be able to make a small club work in a suburb or small town but cannot compete in a big city. I have no idea how the clubs in America survive because the memberships are too cheap. The personal trainer model is not a cheap one. You pay plenty for personal attention. Melvin's Gym in the Sky is exactly that. We are unlikely to see any such business.
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BTW, keep my fiance out of this because I don't talk about your wife or anything like that.
Uhhh, Vince... how can he be your "fiancee" when you live in a state where gay marriage is illegal? ::)
Sorry, he's not your fiancee, he's the guy who sticks his dick up your ass. :-X
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Come on, Goatboy, that is pretty low, even for you! QV is still Melvin's partner.
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Come on, Goatboy, that is pretty low, even for you! QV is still Melvin's partner.
"Partner" is fine, but "fiancee" implies that it has the same status as real marriage, which of course it doesn't.
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Well, Melvin's partner should be off limits to Getbiggers. Fair is fair.
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Well, Melvin's partner should be off limits to Getbiggers. Fair is fair.
I disagree. Fag "partners" are not "family" is the way a wife would be. They shouldn't be afforded any greater protection than anyone else's friends would be, and last I knew there was no getbig prohibition on picking on someone's "friends".
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Three years later, it's shut down. People got sick of it. Minimum wage 150lb trainers telling you what to do, stupid rules about not making any noise while you worked out, extended contracts which people couldn't get out of.
IMO, if gyms want to survive this downturn, they're going to have to cut this crap out.
In a tough economy, when people are worried about their jobs, no way are they gonna sign a long term contract with no escape hatch.
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Onlyme you can't post that without that famous pic of Vince in the Toilet.You know the one that needs to be posted.
Your wish is my command
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Yes, contracts are a necessary evil in many businesses. Virginactive are going to change that and make it easy to join and cancel their memberships. This is proving to be very popular in Australia where clubs can get bad reps because of TV programs investigating complaints, etc. Sir Richard Branson is quite popular in Australia and recently was in the news launching his new fitness club in Sydney. I think consumers are interested in what Sir Richard is up to so come along and have a look. When they see the quality on offer they quickly sign up. Imagine how easy it is to sell a membership there? The salespeople tell you that all it takes to cancel a membership is 3 days notice. That is going to change how gyms do business in Australia. It is about time, too, because so many people join up with good intentions and then drop out soon after only to find they have to keep paying or have lost the rest of their membership if they joined for 6 or 12 months. If clubs can get sufficient volume they will be fine. Sir Richard knows his model works because it operates successfully in Europe and South Africa.
I can tell you that word of mouth is spreading and the word is out that Virginactive is a great place to go to. That is what every gym owner dreams of.
Every one of us probably has an idea about how to set up a great fitness club. It isn't as easy as you think. I would still cater to the big lads by having a heavy duty area where they can train. What I have seen in the latest fitness clubs in Sydney is that they are catering to about 95% of the population and not worrying about muscleheads. One wonders, then, what happens to the members who manage to build themselves up using their premises. I guess they will have to put up with what is on offer or go elsewhere. Fitness First are committed to trying to get everyone to join them. Their dumbbells go up to about 145 pounds. That is heavy. Virginactive have db up to about 90 pounds. Therein lies a big difference. It is clear Virgin are not looking for the bodybuilders. I think many gyms believe that muscleheads deter others from joining or are intimidating. I don't agree because my big guys are nice to everyone. However, when it comes to business it is about perception and emotions and not always about facts and reality. I still can't believe they set up a gym without a biceps or triceps machine nor a standing calf machine.
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Your wish is my command
LMAO
It just never gets old!
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One thing about Vince G CSN MFT is that everyone who sees a thread with his photos in it laugh their asses off. Not sure why this happens. I think the lad is pompous so invites ridicule.
Here is Vince at his best. Who would have thought this image would be fitting?
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i never downgrade another mans build but vince cmon bro,you could look better then those pics im looking at.you got some size but whats the problem?your diet?not enough cardio?bad genetics?the thing is,if your going to talk the talk you need to come in with a far better build then that,im not knockin you but sometimes i dont know if your serious or just jokin about your bodybuilding quest,i hope the next pics show improvement cause thats the only way your going to get the respect on these boards that you want,pics of a great build speak for themselves,good luck though in your show
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i never downgrade another mans build but vince cmon bro,you could look better then those pics im looking at.you got some size but whats the problem?your diet?not enough cardio?bad genetics?the thing is,if your going to talk the talk you need to come in with a far better build then that,im not knockin you but sometimes i dont know if your serious or just jokin about your bodybuilding quest,i hope the next pics show improvement cause thats the only way your going to get the respect on these boards that you want,pics of a great build speak for themselves,good luck though in your show
He doesnt lift weights , thats his problem.
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I disagree. Fag "partners" are not "family" is the way a wife would be. They shouldn't be afforded any greater protection than anyone else's friends would be, and last I knew there was no getbig prohibition on picking on someone's "friends".
Goodrum is an annoying character, but his "friend" is after all his significant other and should be left out of the discussions. By the way, Goodrum has a lot of guts to take all the attacks from getbiggers as well as he does.
CD
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Goodrum is an annoying character, but his "friend" is after all his significant other and should be left out of the discussions. By the way, Goodrum has a lot of guts to take all the attacks from getbiggers as well as he does.
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Melvin has a mental disorder where he craves attention , it doesnt matter if its good or bad as long as he is being talked about and is in the spot light.
Now where else could the attention be gained more than not working out and dieting but getting up on stage in a thong then posting pics claiming to look good where in reality you look like utter horse shit.Of course you will get flamed but thats what he wants , he craves attention..what normal minded person would have done the Venom Vince vs Silly Billy guns pose off looking the way he did..
The guy is a whack job.
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I disagree. Fag "partners" are not "family" is the way a wife would be. They shouldn't be afforded any greater protection than anyone else's friends would be, and last I knew there was no getbig prohibition on picking on someone's "friends".
Then should pets be fair game? :)
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Melvin Goodrum aka Vince G CSN MFT aka Venom Vince Versace has consistently made up stories here on Getbig to either make himself sound important or justify why he didn't show up for various tests such as contests. The guy once slipped on a soda bottle going up some stairs at a Prepaid Legal Convention and broke two bones. That was why he didn't show up at some contest he was going to enter. That was a good one. Then he was going to beat Billy Guns by being in Munzer-like condition. The truth is he showed up looking like he hadn't lifted a weight in months. WTF was going on here? The whole thing was pulling everyone's leg on Getbig. Some observers felt Goodrum was making fun of everyone by making outrageous claims and then avoiding having to prove anything at all. I recall one night he promised to post photos that revealed the ripped, new Melvin. The hour approached and then passed. People were waiting in anticipation but those promised photos never appeared. We also saw how Melvin got into feuds with some tough guys and there was supposed to be a fight to settle who was the winner. Nothing ever eventuated. He got spat on for his trouble. This Vince G is one heck of an attention seeking dude or the best gimmick ever on Getbig. Take your pick!
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Neither of those two were in contest shape.
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Melvin showed up at the Olympia to take on Billy Guns. The guy was fair dinkum. My mate Onlyme was there at the Olympia in Vegas but failed to take in that famous showdown. Had he done so and used his famous fart machine that would have been one hell of a laugh. Why someone would prefer the Olympia or the stalls to seeing Goodrum on a table is beyond me. I would have recorded that showdown plus interviewed Goodrum for Getbig. We don't find many internet heroes like Melvin any more.
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Neither of those two were in contest shape.
Neither of those two were EVER in contest shape. ::)
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jUST shut up and post the after pics when and if they ever happen.
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jUST shut up and post the after pics when and if they ever happen.
I got one of them. Here is relaxing at the park
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Then should pets be fair game? :)
Yes, unless you're posting on the "pet board".
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Melvin has the proverbial sour grapes. He would like a great club for himself but does not have the money. So he has to come up with a basic facility that would do the job. In America and Australia basic gyms are not going to be viable. You might be able to make a small club work in a suburb or small town but cannot compete in a big city. I have no idea how the clubs in America survive because the memberships are too cheap. The personal trainer model is not a cheap one. You pay plenty for personal attention. Melvin's Gym in the Sky is exactly that. We are unlikely to see any such business.
I'm sorry but I actually like helping people, not suckering them into contracts and honestly you don't know anything about what's viable in America and what isn't. I lot of people I've spoken to have stated that they are tired of being signed into contracts and not getting help with equipment unless they pay for personal training services.
They feel that they shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars for a personal trainer when they just spent hundreds of dollars getting the membership. And I agree with them.
Gyms are going to have to change things up eventually and focus more on helping people rather than helping themselves to their wallet
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I disagree. Fag "partners" are not "family" is the way a wife would be. They shouldn't be afforded any greater protection than anyone else's friends would be, and last I knew there was no getbig prohibition on picking on someone's "friends".
Sounds to me like you're pretty lonely and obviously you're not married or in love or even dating for that matter. All you have is Getbig.com. One day you'll have to grow up but its not going to be for a while.
In the meantime, don't forget to put up your toys and clean your room so your mom doesn't yell at you..... ;D
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Yes, unless you're posting on the "pet board".
Where it would be deleted in 12 seconds, LOL!
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Sounds to me like you're pretty lonely and obviously you're not married or in love or even dating for that matter. All you have is Getbig.com. One day you'll have to grow up but its not going to be for a while.
In the meantime, don't forget to put up your toys and clean your room so your mom doesn't yell at you..... ;D
Your fagg0try is sickening, Goodrum.
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Yes, contracts are a necessary evil in many businesses. Virginactive are going to change that and make it easy to join and cancel their memberships. This is proving to be very popular in Australia where clubs can get bad reps because of TV programs investigating complaints, etc. Sir Richard Branson is quite popular in Australia and recently was in the news launching his new fitness club in Sydney. I think consumers are interested in what Sir Richard is up to so come along and have a look. When they see the quality on offer they quickly sign up. Imagine how easy it is to sell a membership there? The salespeople tell you that all it takes to cancel a membership is 3 days notice. That is going to change how gyms do business in Australia. It is about time, too, because so many people join up with good intentions and then drop out soon after only to find they have to keep paying or have lost the rest of their membership if they joined for 6 or 12 months. If clubs can get sufficient volume they will be fine. Sir Richard knows his model works because it operates successfully in Europe and South Africa.
I can tell you that word of mouth is spreading and the word is out that Virginactive is a great place to go to. That is what every gym owner dreams of.
Every one of us probably has an idea about how to set up a great fitness club. It isn't as easy as you think. I would still cater to the big lads by having a heavy duty area where they can train. What I have seen in the latest fitness clubs in Sydney is that they are catering to about 95% of the population and not worrying about muscleheads. One wonders, then, what happens to the members who manage to build themselves up using their premises. I guess they will have to put up with what is on offer or go elsewhere. Fitness First are committed to trying to get everyone to join them. Their dumbbells go up to about 145 pounds. That is heavy. Virginactive have db up to about 90 pounds. Therein lies a big difference. It is clear Virgin are not looking for the bodybuilders. I think many gyms believe that muscleheads deter others from joining or are intimidating. I don't agree because my big guys are nice to everyone. However, when it comes to business it is about perception and emotions and not always about facts and reality. I still can't believe they set up a gym without a biceps or triceps machine nor a standing calf machine.
There are more "regular people" than bodybuilders. Its a matter of quantity, Vince. Gyms are going to cater to regular people's need because that means more money for them than catering to bodybuilders which the number is much less.
And no, contracts are just plain evil. Its a way to get people's money when they've gotten tired of not getting any help or being hit up with personal trainer fees to actually get any help.
The average "gym member" uses their membership for 2 weeks before they quit coming altogether. But the gym can collect from them for the term of their contract.
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Melvin showed up at the Olympia to take on Billy Guns. The guy was fair dinkum. My mate Onlyme was there at the Olympia in Vegas but failed to take in that famous showdown. Had he done so and used his famous fart machine that would have been one hell of a laugh. Why someone would prefer the Olympia or the stalls to seeing Goodrum on a table is beyond me. I would have recorded that showdown plus interviewed Goodrum for Getbig. We don't find many internet heroes like Melvin any more.
Its called entertainment. I came there because I was PAID to come there. It was nothing more than a publicity stunt and it worked.
As far as Keith not attending...well there was no lifting crane available to haul his ass over.
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Its called entertainment. I came there because I was PAID to come there. It was nothing more than a publicity stunt and it worked.
As far as Keith not attending...well there was no lifting crane available to haul his ass over.
Who paid you and why would you two posing make for a publicity stunt?
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Who paid you and why would you two posing make for a publicity stunt?
MD paid for that debacle. This should explain everything.
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Gyms do have a problem. What has happened is that gyms have become larger over the years because they are offering more services. They also open earlier and on weekends. The larger gyms are much more expensive to operate. Some clubs pay over $1,000,000/year for rent. That is $20,000/week. A large gyms pay about $1,000/day rent. Where is the money going to come from for that and other expenses? That is why contracts saved clubs.
What also evolved was the separation of services and memberships. It was just too expensive to offer instruction all the time or even part of the time. Clubs could then compete for cheap memberships and sign up heaps of people. They made extra money through expensive services like personal training and nutrition programs. This division made it cheaper for regular members who knew what they were doing and didn't buy extra services. Thus, we find that Virginactive operates the same way. They are unusual because in the past no one could join a quality club without signing up for a long time. This pay-as-you- go-and-you-can-stop-anytime is a brave model for sure. It is very user friendly and that accounts for the popularity we are seeing. Whether success lasts in quite another thing.
What we are finding in the gym industry is that it is getting cut up into smaller pieces with lots of clubs competing for memberships. How things change. We are seeing the phenomenon of the small personal training studio trying to capitalise on providing better levels of instruction and personal attention. This is not a cheap alternative so will remain a niche operation. I doubt such a studio will be successful in small country towns where incomes are low. The fact remains that successful clubs usually locate in middle class suburbs or shopping centres or downtown premises. Parking is always a problem and that is why the suburban shopping centre is attractive for gyms and fitness centres. I don't think I have ever seen a purpose built commercial gym in Australia. Sometimes we find large buildings converted to clubs. The Castle Hill RSL did build such a free-standing facility but it is adjacent to the existing premises.
The point for Melvin Goodrum to note is that he cannot set up a decent gym in a small office. Small operators look for cheap warehouse or factory buildings to locate in. These premises are suitable because there is parking when other businesses close and gyms are at their peak. Even these mid-size operations are expensive to set up and operate. This business is not for the meek.....or reckless.
Maybe Melvin can outline his business plan so we can see what his operation is all about?
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Its called entertainment. I came there because I was PAID to come there.
doubtful.
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Goodrum received a cheque for his troubles. Sad, but true.
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Gyms do have a problem. What has happened is that gyms have become larger over the years because they are offering more services. They also open earlier and on weekends. The larger gyms are much more expensive to operate. Some clubs pay over $1,000,000/year for rent. That is $20,000/week. A large gyms pay about $1,000/day rent. Where is the money going to come from for that and other expenses? That is why contracts saved clubs.
What also evolved was the separation of services and memberships. It was just too expensive to offer instruction all the time or even part of the time. Clubs could then compete for cheap memberships and sign up heaps of people. They made extra money through expensive services like personal training and nutrition programs. This division made it cheaper for regular members who knew what they were doing and didn't buy extra services. Thus, we find that Virginactive operates the same way. They are unusual because in the past no one could join a quality club without signing up for a long time. This pay-as-you- go-and-you-can-stop-anytime is a brave model for sure. It is very user friendly and that accounts for the popularity we are seeing. Whether success lasts in quite another thing.
What we are finding in the gym industry is that it is getting cut up into smaller pieces with lots of clubs competing for memberships. How things change. We are seeing the phenomenon of the small personal training studio trying to capitalise on providing better levels of instruction and personal attention. This is not a cheap alternative so will remain a niche operation. I doubt such a studio will be successful in small country towns where incomes are low. The fact remains that successful clubs usually locate in middle class suburbs or shopping centres or downtown premises. Parking is always a problem and that is why the suburban shopping centre is attractive for gyms and fitness centres. I don't think I have ever seen a purpose built commercial gym in Australia. Sometimes we find large buildings converted to clubs. The Castle Hill RSL did build such a free-standing facility but it is adjacent to the existing premises.
The point for Melvin Goodrum to note is that he cannot set up a decent gym in a small office. Small operators look for cheap warehouse or factory buildings to locate in. These premises are suitable because there is parking when other businesses close and gyms are at their peak. Even these mid-size operations are expensive to set up and operate. This business is not for the meek.....or reckless.
Maybe Melvin can outline his business plan so we can see what his operation is all about?
Thank you for your wonderful insight.
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Goodrum received a cheque for his troubles. Sad, but true.
That wasn't a check, it was a $200 gift certificate for ALR products. I wasn't paid by ALR
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I just got an idea while taking a shit (for some reason Goodrum always is on my mind when I am doing that). It is obvious that he enters shows with as few entrants as possible hoping to be the only one in his class. As soon as he finds out there is more than 1 he either quits or makes up some excuse (like when he fell going UP the stairs ::)) Anyway, vince just pay the promoter to make sure no one else enters your class and you will win first. Or just enter a contest and make sure other competitors know you are entering because in reality NO one wants to be on the same stage as you so if they knew ahead of time you are entering good chance is they won't enter. I hope this helps. And I posted this mostly because this thread needs to be near the top always.
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I just got an idea while taking a shit (for some reason Goodrum always is on my mind when I am doing that). It is obvious that he enters shows with as few entrants as possible hoping to be the only one in his class. As soon as he finds out there is more than 1 he either quits or makes up some excuse (like when he fell going UP the stairs ::)) Anyway, vince just pay the promoter to make sure no one else enters your class and you will win first. Or just enter a contest and make sure other competitors know you are entering because in reality NO one wants to be on the same stage as you so if they knew ahead of time you are entering good chance is they won't enter. I hope this helps. And I posted this mostly because this thread needs to be near the top always.
He looks a million times better than you, why does that not register with you?
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Well, Melvin Goodrum claims he looks like Munzer and other cut up dudes. No one else is so delusional. That is why Goodrum is an entertainer.
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He looks a million times better than you, why does that not register with you?
Yes he does and he is better than you. So maybe we should stick together. Remember you are just another internet half-wit like Goodrum so you should try and keep as many allies as you can.
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Yes he does and he is better than you. So maybe we should stick together. Remember you are just another internet half-wit like Goodrum so you should try and keep as many allies as you can.
I would never align myself with man who doesn't even possess the will to live. At least Vince is out doing things with his life, you actually bragged about being able to walk through a casino. How much you weighing nowadays?
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We have been waiting for a transformed Goodrum for years now. Every year Melvin starts the hype about how great he will be THIS year. The amusing thing is he looks more or less the same each time. His condition for the Billy Guns showdown was lamentable. Who in their right mind, entertainment aside, would mount a table and pose in trunks for all to laugh at looking like Goodrum did? That takes a special dude. A nincompoop! A buffoon! An internet legend, even. Until Melvin can show us a muscular physique with cuts he is nothing but a pompous wannabe. He still can't enter an open contest, for goodness sake! He does a few pushups at home and looks in the mirror and is amazed at what he sees. Yeah, traps, biceps and calves are fine but where are his abs? That is the mystery. It doesn't help to attack Melvin's scoffers.
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We have been waiting for a transformed Goodrum for years now. Every year Melvin starts the hype about how great he will be THIS year. The amusing thing is he looks more or less the same each time. His condition for the Billy Guns showdown was lamentable. Who in their right mind, entertainment aside, would mount a table and pose in trunks for all to laugh at looking like Goodrum did? That takes a special dude. A nincompoop! A buffoon! An internet legend, even. Until Melvin can show us a muscular physique with cuts he is nothing but a pompous wannabe. He still can't enter an open contest, for goodness sake! He does a few pushups at home and looks in the mirror and is amazed at what he sees. Yeah, traps, biceps and calves are fine but where are his abs? That is the mystery. It doesn't help to attack Melvin's scoffers.
My abs are showing in that picture you dum ass..... ::)
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This must be Queen Vissy's back, Vince Goodrums boyfriend.I gues its them in the Garden Of Eden.They wont need a serpent to tempt them with the forbidden fruit.
With 2 fruits in one garden, lmao
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This must be Queen Vissy's back, Vince Goodrums boyfriend.I gues its them in the Garden Of Eden.They wont need a serpent to tempt them with the forbidden fruit.
With 2 fruits in one garden, lmao
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My fiance's tatoos are Norwegian actually
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19 pages ragging on Vince and he is probably just laughing at you all. He looks like shit, but at least he stepped on to a stage. The same old pictures that was funny two years ago coupled with the same old remarks that was funny three years ago, are fast getting old. If you really find him that laughable, the best thing to do would be to ignore him completely. He won't be able to handle that. He knows full well when he made this thread the insults it would cause. As the old saying goes, say what you want about me, just get my name right. It keeps people talking. This Vince Basile gramps, or whoever he is, should really give it a rest. You actually put effort into insulting a guy online? I wonder if it's more sad Goodrum stepping on to a stage in that laughable condition or Basile typing pages and pages on nonsense. To actually put that much effort into insulting Goodrum must mean he is on your minds, exactly where he wants to be. You guys are the fools, wake up. :-*
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19 pages ragging on Vince and he is probably just laughing at you all. He looks like shit, but at least he stepped on to a stage. The same old pictures that was funny two years ago coupled with the same old remarks that was funny three years ago, are fast getting old. If you really find him that laughable, the best thing to do would be to ignore him completely. He won't be able to handle that. He knows full well when he made this thread the insults it would cause. As the old saying goes, say what you want about me, just get my name right. It keeps people talking. This Vince Basile gramps, or whoever he is, should really give it a rest. You actually put effort into insulting a guy online? I wonder if it's more sad Goodrum stepping on to a stage in that laughable condition or Basile typing pages and pages on nonsense. To actually put that much effort into insulting Goodrum must mean he is on your minds, exactly where he wants to be. You guys are the fools, wake up. :-*
bingo,you got it right ,at first it was funny but now its pretty sad
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The fact that it is sad is quite amusing.
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I'm sorry but I actually like helping people, not suckering them into contracts and honestly you don't know anything about what's viable in America and what isn't. I lot of people I've spoken to have stated that they are tired of being signed into contracts and not getting help with equipment unless they pay for personal training services.
They feel that they shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars for a personal trainer when they just spent hundreds of dollars getting the membership. And I agree with them.
Gyms are going to have to change things up eventually and focus more on helping people rather than helping themselves to their wallet
yeah whatever happened to joining a gym and being given a free program? that should be mandatory.
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Goodrum is not a bodybuilder's ass. I've seen people who's never set foot in a gym looking better than Vince. However, he DOES compete, not just talk about it. Let's see all your contest pics please. :)
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I would never align myself with man who doesn't even possess the will to live. At least Vince is out doing things with his life, you actually bragged about being able to walk through a casino. How much you weighing nowadays?
You know whats funny is how you have the balls to say anything. Who the fuck are you. You haven't done one thing in your life. You pop off with nothing to back you up. Face it boy I am in your mind cause you are weak. You are one of those guys who try to fit in so hard yet fail. Say what you want but you are on the same level as Goodrum except he is a step higher cause at least he did get on stage (I give him that credit) All you have done your whole life is talk with no action. Guys like you are a dime a dozen. Keep it coming cause you are hilarious. Oh yea keep hiding behind the computer it suits you.
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I remember when I first competed. It was thought it was a good experience to get up and pose. Well, I don't agree because not placing is never a good experience. Guys like Goodrum don't deserve praise for enterring a Junior contest at 30 years of age. The guy has certificates for personal training and nutrition yet presents like an intermediate guy you see by the millions in gyms all over the world. Sure, I don't discourage anyone from training to improve themselves or get stronger, etc. However, competition is not for everyone and sometimes we see guys in posing trunks who should never be there. It is a bit like listening to awful Karaoke singers who entertain because they are so bad. Goodrum is a borderline bodybuilder. He looks okay in a T-shirt because he has reasonably big arms. Come to think about it, he has some of the longest arms ever seen on a human. That is another story. Guys like Arvilla and Goodrum have discovered that they disappear when they start getting rid of bulk for contests. The once big muscles evaporate and I guess Melvin feared losing too much size so he enterred with perhaps 15% bodyfat. That is never going to impress the judges or spectators. From the painful look on Goodrum's face while posing it is clear he wasn't going too well or perhaps people were laughing in the audience.
Goodrum claims he has abdominals showing in the images seen in this thread. Yes, one and a half rows of abs. That is pre 1960 good enough but not post 2000 condition. Goodrum should know that. All I can say is Melvin is a dreamer or perhaps he really does have poor vision and cannot discern his bodyfat levels clearly. I suppose guys like that listen to friends and mates and get praise instead of accurate assessments. I mean, how many years does this guy have to enter contests before he will gain some acceptance here on Getbig? We all can predict the answer.
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http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304025710896
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http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304025710896
Ha! Village People Cop - good work!
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yeah whatever happened to joining a gym and being given a free program? that should be mandatory.
They don't anymore because the gyms want you to pay for the personal trainers service so they can make more money off of you.
Everywhere I go and from my experience from working at a gym, people have always told me that they never signed up for a membership simply because once the gym got their membership money they didn't care about them anymore and didn't help them out with anything.
I still give free training programs however gyms apparantly now have..."nutritional analysis" for 500 dollars which is stupid considering that its computer generated
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I remember when I first competed. It was thought it was a good experience to get up and pose. Well, I don't agree because not placing is never a good experience. Guys like Goodrum don't deserve praise for enterring a Junior contest at 30 years of age. The guy has certificates for personal training and nutrition yet presents like an intermediate guy you see by the millions in gyms all over the world. Sure, I don't discourage anyone from training to improve themselves or get stronger, etc. However, competition is not for everyone and sometimes we see guys in posing trunks who should never be there. It is a bit like listening to awful Karaoke singers who entertain because they are so bad. Goodrum is a borderline bodybuilder. He looks okay in a T-shirt because he has reasonably big arms. Come to think about it, he has some of the longest arms ever seen on a human. That is another story. Guys like Arvilla and Goodrum have discovered that they disappear when they start getting rid of bulk for contests. The once big muscles evaporate and I guess Melvin feared losing too much size so he enterred with perhaps 15% bodyfat. That is never going to impress the judges or spectators. From the painful look on Goodrum's face while posing it is clear he wasn't going too well or perhaps people were laughing in the audience.
Goodrum claims he has abdominals showing in the images seen in this thread. Yes, one and a half rows of abs. That is pre 1960 good enough but not post 2000 condition. Goodrum should know that. All I can say is Melvin is a dreamer or perhaps he really does have poor vision and cannot discern his bodyfat levels clearly. I suppose guys like that listen to friends and mates and get praise instead of accurate assessments. I mean, how many years does this guy have to enter contests before he will gain some acceptance here on Getbig? We all can predict the answer.
Yes, pre 1960.....before steroids and clen was in place. I actually consider that a complement as some of the best bodybuilders were from that era such as Bill Pearl, Armand Tanny, George Eiferman, Clancy Ross, Reg Park....etc.
Unlike you, I didn't have to pop 50mg of dianabol a day to win a show. Honestly, you're a fucking hypocrite Basile. You talk shit about Chick using boatloads of steroids when you yourself used them to win the Mr Canada.
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They don't anymore because the gyms want you to pay for the personal trainers service so they can make more money off of you.
Everywhere I go and from my experience from working at a gym, people have always told me that they never signed up for a membership simply because once the gym got their membership money they didn't care about them anymore and didn't help them out with anything.
I still give free training programs however gyms apparantly now have..."nutritional analysis" for 500 dollars which is stupid considering that its computer generated
I would not give you .50 cents for a nutritional analysis.... ::) Seriosuly Vince WHY are you trying to train people and give them advice. Has the old saying "practice what you preach " EVER crossed your mind. NO one in there right mind would ask you for advice...
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I would not give you .50 cents for a nutritional analysis.... ::) Seriosuly Vince WHY are you trying to train people and give them advice. Has the old saying "practice what you preach " EVER crossed your mind. NO one in there right mind would ask you for advice...
You wouldn't have to even give me .50 cents for a nutritional analysis. The software for that only cost 400 dollars so I actually did that for free. Entering in people's basic body details doesn't quantify charging 500.00 for it. Its another reason why I always had a lot of clients when I was working at the gyms
And I've always practiced what I preached, I stay in good shape year round and I treat all of my clients like family which is why I was successful while others were not. With the money I made I was able to start Caliber Fitness Solutions.
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Yup. You do stay in good shape Vince, just not competition shape. Surely you must realise that? Oh, and do take it as a derogatory remark, it's not meant to be.
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I'm still amazed he could actually walk onstage in front of people in that condition. I wouldn't walk around the house w/my shirt off if I looked that bad. ???
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VINCE JUST RETIRE AND GO OUT WHILE YOUR STILL HEALTHY AND ON TOP OF THE WORLD
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You wouldn't have to even give me .50 cents for a nutritional analysis. The software for that only cost 400 dollars so I actually did that for free. Entering in people's basic body details doesn't quantify charging 500.00 for it. Its another reason why I always had a lot of clients when I was working at the gyms
And I've always practiced what I preached, I stay in good shape year round and I treat all of my clients like family which is why I was successful while others were not. With the money I made I was able to start Caliber Fitness Solutions.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Didn't you also run your mouth at AD Cherry as well????? Seriously you are delusional in thinking that your little Tenn show you won equates to winning and IFBB pro card....now that's something to laugh at
You beat 4 people....wow..... ::)
Chris Schaub. Grow up
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
::)
You really don't have a life do you???/
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I don't want to rag on Vince at all. I think he is living his life far better and open than most here. He may look like shit, but at least he has the guts to step onto a stage. I just wish he wouldn't :o
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I don't want to rag on Vince at all. I think he is living his life far better and open than most here. He may look like shit, but at least he has the guts to step onto a stage. I just wish he wouldn't :o
Actually I don't look like shit. I've been using ALR supplements since the event and things have changed a great deal since then. That's why I'm looking forward to competing again because when people see me, they are to realize that what you hear about me on the internet isn't reality.
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
hahahah, awesome. "I can turn this 150 sq ft room and make it into a gym. I can clear $100 a week..." hahahah
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Then I will give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for the new pics to appear. Good luck with the contest prep.
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
Hahahahahahaha.
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Didn't you also run your mouth at AD Cherry as well????? Seriously you are delusional in thinking that your little Tenn show you won equates to winning and IFBB pro card....now that's something to laugh at
You beat 4 people....wow..... ::)
Chris Schaub. Grow up
I simply stated to AD that he won't amount to shit in the PRO's which is true...
WHAT the fuck are you talking about...I see I discovered the Gimmick account then...I won the KNOX Divsion OVERALL Vince which I already explained...I know Chris VERY well you idiot..nice try ;D
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA. Just wiped the tears of laughter out of my eyes to post this. hahahahahaha
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"Yes, pre 1960.....before steroids and clen was in place. I actually consider that a complement as some of the best bodybuilders were from that era such as Bill Pearl, Armand Tanny, George Eiferman, Clancy Ross, Reg Park....etc."
You are no Clancy Ross or any of those guys! I wasn't giving you a compliment!
"Unlike you, I didn't have to pop 50mg of dianabol a day to win a show. Honestly, you're a fucking hypocrite Basile. You talk shit about Chick using boatloads of steroids when you yourself used them to win the Mr Canada."
I took 2 Dianabol tablets for 2 months. That is 10 mg per day. I didn't end up with boobs like you did when you mixed up your vet steroid home brew. Chick won't state his drug protocols and he won't help get drug testing in the IFBB. Chick is the hypocrite. Besides, Rusty Jeffers was better that Chick but placed the proverbial 8th.
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I simply stated to AD that he won't amount to shit in the PRO's which is true...
WHAT the fuck are you talking about...I see I discovered the Gimmick account then...I won the KNOX Divsion OVERALL Vince which I already explained...I know Chris VERY well you idiot..nice try ;D
And you have the right to say who's going to be succesful in the IFBB???? I think they were saying the same thing about Dexter Jackson he's Mr Olympia.
And as far as I'm concerned, you won a small regional show....big deal.
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Actually I don't look like shit.
Thats the funniest line ever. That body has the word T-U-R-D stamped from head to toe.By the way Keith that was funny as hell! ;D
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"Yes, pre 1960.....before steroids and clen was in place. I actually consider that a complement as some of the best bodybuilders were from that era such as Bill Pearl, Armand Tanny, George Eiferman, Clancy Ross, Reg Park....etc."
You are no Clancy Ross or any of those guys! I wasn't giving you a compliment!
"Unlike you, I didn't have to pop 50mg of dianabol a day to win a show. Honestly, you're a fucking hypocrite Basile. You talk shit about Chick using boatloads of steroids when you yourself used them to win the Mr Canada."
I took 2 Dianabol tablets for 2 months. That is 10 mg per day. I didn't end up with boobs like you did when you mixed up your vet steroid home brew. Chick won't state his drug protocols and he won't help get drug testing in the IFBB. Chick is the hypocrite. Besides, Rusty Jeffers was better that Chick but placed the proverbial 8th.
You used steroids to win your title and you have the nerve to criticize others including Chick for using them. Doesn't matter how much or how little, you still were a juicer and you owe your one lousy title to using steroids.......period.
And Rusty should have came in sharper at the morning show. Otherwise he wouldn't have had 7 other people beat him. Rusty has already stated that he wasn't in his best condition at the show.
Chick is the Masters World Champion....deal with it old man.
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Man this thread has more hits than any IFBB Pro show news, IS THERE SOMETHING???
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And you have the right to say who's going to be succesful in the IFBB???? I think they were saying the same thing about Dexter Jackson he's Mr Olympia.
And as far as I'm concerned, you won a small regional show....big deal.
And you placed 2nd out of 2 at the same size show....big deal. WHATS YOUR FUCKING POINT VINCE?
The last time I checked this is public message board and ANYBODY can state there opinion....got it?
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And you placed 2nd out of 2 at the same size show....big deal. WHATS YOUR FUCKING POINT VINCE?
The last time I checked this is public message board and ANYBODY can state there opinion....got it?
My point is that you are a douche.....got it. Don't give advice to IFBB pros unless you ARE ONE.
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My point is that you are a douche.....got it. Don't give advice to IFBB pros unless you ARE ONE.
AN IFBB pro is NOT above anyone Vince they simply eat more use more drugs and have better genetics. You understand that? GOOD. You are the douche my man...acting like some MILLIONARE business owner nutritional expert when in reality you make 30K a year... and look like shit..GOT IT?
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30k a year. I don't believe that for a moment. Prob much lower. Hell, 30k a year he could save up & get gyno surgery.
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AN IFBB pro is NOT above anyone Vince they simply eat more use more drugs and have better genetics. You understand that? GOOD. You are the douche my man...acting like some MILLIONARE business owner nutritional expert when in reality you make 30K a year... and look like shit..GOT IT?
AD Cherry is a far better bodybuilder than you'll ever be in your entire life. And you can blame it on the drugs except that you use them too. So please don't give me that shit.
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AD Cherry is a far better bodybuilder than you'll ever be in your entire life. And you can blame it on the drugs except that you use them too. So please don't give me that shit.
And you actualy think I GIVE A SHIT...I do this as a HOBBY man, hahaha just got the right cards dealt this year and did well. WOW YOU ARE SLOW...do you think I would ever want to do to myself what these national level guys have to do??
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And you actualy think I GIVE A SHIT...I do this as a HOBBY man, hahaha just got the right cards dealt this year and did well. WOW YOU ARE SLOW...do you think I would ever want to do to myself what these national level guys have to do??
You use steroids and clen. You are already doing what the National guys are doing, dum-ass..... ::)
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Vince I started a thread that you are More Popular than the IFBB Pro shows and it was DELETED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a classic.Start a thread about it Vince and see how long it stays up.
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You use steroids and clen. You are already doing what the National guys are doing, dum-ass..... ::)
GH, IG-F,DNP, 2000 grams per week....NO I DONT DO WHAT THEY DO
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Then I will give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for the new pics to appear. Good luck with the contest prep.
We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
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Nice looking Crib Vince do you live in Hollywood???
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good work Vince--show em how its done
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You should use that BROOM.
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30k a year. I don't believe that for a moment. Prob much lower. Hell, 30k a year he could save up & get gyno surgery.
Does he even have a real job, or does he just jump from one failed get-rich-quick internet scheme to the next?
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Melvin, you look like complete shit again. This has to be some kind of joke. Do you even train?
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Vince, is that a site injection bump i see on your trademarked calves?
Also, I hope this isn't one of your "ha ha, 40 pages, April Fools!" shit threads you start every year.
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We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
hahahahaah HOLY FUCK! Goodrum you will never change. You still look like well you know. But then maybe you don't. Honestly what fucking drugs do you take to make you think you look like anything but shit. And your pad is hot. It matches you. And great looking trunks. I swear to god I am waiting to tell everyone we have been punked and you were hired to get as ugly as possible and act ignorant and stupid. If not then you need to go to a mental hospital. And thank you for more pics of you. They are priceless and I am sure they will be used extensively on here with some great photoshop opps.
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We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
Nice SINGLEwide 16x80 with the hideaway laundry room.. Wow just wow...I see that business is doing GREAT, lol a 15k home you have there my friend... :o
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
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We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
Is that an apex roof I see in your kitchen? Do you live in a cabin? Or a hut or something?
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"... weak lats..." ;D ;D ;D
Yes Vince, if only you could bring up those lagging lats. Galactic delusionality.
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Is that an apex roof I see in your kitchen? Do you live in a cabin? Or a hut or something?
Holy shit you got a good eye. I swear to god Goodrum lives in a trailor but his delusionality makes him think it is a 3000 sq. ft. home. His business has definitely made him a great living. What is that saying "you can take the person out of the trailor park, but you can't take the trailor park out of the person
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hahahahaah HOLY FUCK! Goodrum you will never change. You still look like well you know. But then maybe you don't. Honestly what fucking drugs do you take to make you think you look like anything but shit. And your pad is hot. It matches you. And great looking trunks. I swear to god I am waiting to tell everyone we have been punked and you were hired to get as ugly as possible and act ignorant and stupid. If not then you need to go to a mental hospital. And thank you for more pics of you. They are priceless and I am sure they will be used extensively on here with some great photoshop opps.
Keep telling yourself that Keath bar. But you now realize that you are fat and I'm obviously not..... ;D
I've let you all talk shit for the past week about my physique and now that I bust out the pictures, all you can say is that my house is small....my have things have changed
I got news for you. My house isn't that small, its just that my arms are just that BIG. And come showtime, I'm going to ride these 19's onto my first place
Hard work pays off....deal with it bitches.... ;)
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You should use that BROOM.
lol
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Vince G, CSN MFT is THE most thought out, well planned and best executed gimmick in the history of the internet. No person can be like this for real, NO ONE.
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Keep telling yourself that Keath bar. But you now realize that you are fat and I'm obviously not..... ;D
I've let you all talk shit for the past week about my physique and now that I bust out the pictures, all you can say is that my house is small....my have things have changed
I got news for you. My house isn't that small, its just that my arms are just that BIG. And come showtime, I'm going to ride these 19's onto my first place
Hard work pays off....deal with it bitches.... ;)
Dude get some glasses. You don't look any different. You are smaller yet still smooth, soft and fat. You are built like me now but smaller. You still look like you have never lifted a weight in your life.
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Dude get some glasses. You don't look any different. You are smaller yet still smooth, soft and fat. You are built like me now but smaller. You still look like you have never lifted a weight in your life.
Yeah what's up with this? I thought that you had to have at least SOME muscle to enter a bodybuilding contest.
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Keep telling yourself that Keath bar. But you now realize that you are fat and I'm obviously not..... ;D
I've let you all talk shit for the past week about my physique and now that I bust out the pictures, all you can say is that my house is small....my have things have changed
I got news for you. My house isn't that small, its just that my arms are just that BIG. And come showtime, I'm going to ride these 19's onto my first place
Hard work pays off....deal with it bitches.... ;)
Vine...ha ha ha!! Your arms arent 19 inches..youre a freakin liar!!
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He has made improvements no? hamstrings are look better, lats is coming out. I'll reserve final judgement for contest day.
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Where are the photos showing Vince G CSN MFT from the front? Guess we will see those in about 6 weeks.
I swear Melvin is a hoot. I needed a good laugh today and this thread is priceless. Goodrum delivers like no other. He is going to show everyone with his 19 inch arms! I burst out laughing. Looks like a bottle of Johnson's baby oil on the fridge! At least the lads have a dog. Seems to me Melvin doesn't have a job . Maybe he does home duties full time?
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Yeah what's up with this? I thought that you had to have at least SOME muscle to enter a bodybuilding contest.
Goodrum is so revolutionary that he has discovered a way to enter a BB contest and pretend to be a BB without ever lifting weights. Goodrum, take a picture of you actually in a gym lifting weights. Bet it doesn't happen.
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he will prove its possible to win shows without having trained a day in his life.
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A star in the making.
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You look harder than previous pics and have picked up more muscle. Whatever you've been doing works Vince. A shame you didn't post a shot from a front double biceps. I don't suppose you have one? :)
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And come showtime, I'm going to ride these 19's onto my first place
My feelings exactly. Are you going to enter the Mr Olympia if you qualify?
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Another serious question. Vince, in all honesty, what do you think is your chances of making pro? Can you make it without resorting to steroids?
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Dude get some glasses. You don't look any different. You are smaller yet still smooth, soft and fat. You are built like me now but smaller. You still look like you have never lifted a weight in your life.
I'm built like you.......Bahahahahahaha ha
The only thing that's built like you is the Michelin Man, the Stay Puff Marshmellow, and the planet Neptune.
And I am wearing glasses.
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A star in the making.
hahahahahahah you look like shit....not surprised____ brutal everything ...
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Another serious question. Vince, in all honesty, what do you think is your chances of making pro? Can you make it without resorting to steroids?
Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
I honestly have never seen a black guy that looks that bad. It's almost unbelievable. Those pictures of you are not just bad, they are sickening and so disturbing.
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hahahahahahah you look like shit....not surprised____ brutal everything ...
He looks so bad, I can't even put into words. All I can do is thank god I didn't get genetics like that.
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
Goodrum you need to contact someone like Dr. Phil. Your mental state is absolutely disturbing. You have no fucking grasp on reality. I am fat and I know it. For some fucking reason your ignorance has affected your eyesight. How in the fuck can you look at yourself and think anything but you look like shit. You have NO muscle at all. Your skin sucks and you have no presence whatsoever. Queer Vissy must also have your sickness cause what the fuck is he doing with you. As ugly and disgusting as he is, he looks like Brad Pitt compared to you. You are the dumbest human I have ever seen. I mean that.
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Goodrum you need to contact someone like Dr. Phil. Your mental state is absolutely disturbing. You have no fucking grasp on reality. I am fat and I know it. For some fucking reason your ignorance has affected your eyesight. How in the fuck can you look at yourself and think anything but you look like shit. You have NO muscle at all. Your skin sucks and you have no presence whatsoever. Queer Vissy must also have your sickness cause what the fuck is he doing with you. As ugly and disgusting as he is, he looks like Brad Pitt compared to you. You are the dumbest human I have ever seen. I mean that.
In all seriousness. I think the guy is just joking about this. He knows he doesn't look good. He's messing with everyone here. I doubt he's that blind or dumb. He likes the online attention.
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:)
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In all seriousness. I think the guy is just joking about this. He knows he doesn't look good. He's messing with everyone here. I doubt he's that blind or dumb. He likes the online attention.
We all thought that too, except he's actually gone onstage looking that bad or worse, twice. As crazy as he sounds, he's probably serious about this.
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In all seriousness. I think the guy is just joking about this. He knows he doesn't look good. He's messing with everyone here. I doubt he's that blind or dumb. He likes the online attention.
He definitley loves the attention. But the problem is it is all negative attention. Anyone who likes that and then thinks people are in the least complimenting him there has to be a screw loose. I have no idea why any promoter would let him enter a show. He lowers the class of the show immediately. I kow some promoters like the comedic aspect of people like him entering their show. But, Goodrum actually thinks he belongs on a stage. That is what is so fucked up about it,
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He definitley loves the attention. But the problem is it is all negative attention. Anyone who likes that and then thinks people are in the least complimenting him there has to be a screw loose. I have no idea why any promoter would let him enter a show. He lowers the class of the show immediately. I kow some promoters like the comedic aspect of people like him entering their show. But, Goodrum actually thinks he belongs on a stage. That is what is so fucked up about it,
and he loves getting dick ... :-X :-X
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We all thought that too, except he's actually gone onstage looking that bad or worse, twice. As crazy as he sounds, he's probably serious about this.
Well, I guess I was wrong then. I honestly can't think of words to describe this guy then. I'd say retarded by that's not strong enough.
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He definitley loves the attention. But the problem is it is all negative attention. Anyone who likes that and then thinks people are in the least complimenting him there has to be a screw loose. I have no idea why any promoter would let him enter a show. He lowers the class of the show immediately. I kow some promoters like the comedic aspect of people like him entering their show. But, Goodrum actually thinks he belongs on a stage. That is what is so fucked up about it,
the guy he placed 2nd too is a Promoter here in TN...I have spoken with Phil about him and well lets just say...his words were and I will sum it up "that guy is an idiot, plain and simple" ...
People were making fun of him backstage and Phil told me he actually thought they were complimenting him, lol...wow.
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We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
where exactly are those lats at flabby
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
WTF ARE YOU SERIOUS WHAT MEDS DO YOU TAKE ANY SHOW THAT LETS YOU COMPETE IS A JOKE MAYBE YOU CAN SELL POPCORN DURING THE SHOW ARE SOMETHING MAYBE YOU WILL GET TO SWEEP OFF THE STAGE AND CLEAN UP THE SWEAT OF THE REAL COMPETITORS
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Whats up w/those trunks? & why is there another mans name (Chris) on top of your fridge? & judging from those kitchen shot(s) your undefeated streak of finishing dead last looks to be a lock.
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the guy he placed 2nd too is a Promoter here in TN...I have spoken with Phil about him and well lets just say...his words were and I will sum it up "that guy is an idiot, plain and simple" ...
People were making fun of him backstage and Phil told me he actually thought they were complimenting him, lol...wow.
I understand that people talk shit all the time and its usually behind someone's back or hiding behind a keyboard. Its simply because they are not confident or brave enough to say it in someone's face.
So I don't worry about comments like that because it happens to everyone. I'm sure a lot of people have talked shit about you as well.....except you may or may not ever know what someone really thinks of you.
I'm proud of the fact that I've been training and competing naturally without any steroids or shit like that and that I can put up and shut people up.
Akers, you can't take steroids forever.......once the supply runs out...so do you.
BTW...RIP to Rob Sager.....only 29 and had heart failure. Which one of you juicers are next in line????
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Vince,the guy I train with is like you,he thinks people are laughing with him but they are laughing at him
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Vince,the guy I train with is like you,he thinks people are laughing with him but they are laughing at him
Someone's is always laughing or talking shit behind your back no matter who you are. That's just life in general, bro. You simply can't know or control what others truly think about you so don't worry about it.
I just ignore what others say about me and keep training hard and competing. Fuck what everyone says about me because they wish they had the balls to compete or put their pictures up or use their real name.
"It's impossible to stop a man that just won't quit"
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BTW...RIP to Rob Sager.....only 29 and had heart failure. Which one of you juicers are next in line????
When did he pass away? Did he compete? i haven't heard of him.
Such a tragedy to pass that young. it's not usually the steroids that causes the heart failure... rather the extreme hypertension that comes with the pre-contest goodies. Even ECA can kill ya if you're genetically cursed to have high blood pressure and you just keep pushing it.
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When did he pass away? Did he compete? i haven't heard of him.
He was one of Derek Anthony's friends. But I'm not going to talk about his business out of respect.
Such a tragedy to pass that young. it's not usually the steroids that causes the heart failure... rather the extreme hypertension that comes with the pre-contest goodies. Even ECA can kill ya if you're genetically cursed to have high blood pressure and you just keep pushing it.
If you have a pre-existing heart condition, steroids will definitely add to your problems with enlarging the heart. Then add the clenbuterol and you have a recipe for diaster. Even so, you can still die without something pre-existing because of the nature of anabolic steroids
And honestly, in the past two years there's been a number of North Carolina NPC competitors that have been passing away due to heart failure before they even hit 30. Its pretty bad and its one of the reasons I quit using in 2001. Its not worth it
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I understand that people talk shit all the time and its usually behind someone's back or hiding behind a keyboard. Its simply because they are not confident or brave enough to say it in someone's face.
So I don't worry about comments like that because it happens to everyone. I'm sure a lot of people have talked shit about you as well.....except you may or may not ever know what someone really thinks of you.
I'm proud of the fact that I've been training and competing naturally without any steroids or shit like that and that I can put up and shut people up.
Akers, you can't take steroids forever.......once the supply runs out...so do you.
BTW...RIP to Rob Sager.....only 29 and had heart failure. Which one of you juicers are next in line????
Believe me fat ass I will say anything to your face that i will on this CPU..trust me. I tell people all the time if they look like shit, and I also take the critisism myself as well... you can't handle the truth and have to start 25 pg threads on getbig to make yourself feel better which is sad my friend...
I am in better shape in my offseason CLEAN than you are competition shape.. Vince... WITHOUT ANY JUICE
You can try with all the rebuttal's but the facts are you look like shit clean or not and always will, but hey KEEP LIVING THAT DREAM!! hahahahah
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If you have a pre-existing heart condition, steroids will definitely add to your problems with enlarging the heart. Then add the clenbuterol and you have a recipe for diaster. Even so, you can still die without something pre-existing because of the nature of anabolic steroids
And honestly, in the past two years there's been a number of North Carolina NPC competitors that have been passing away due to heart failure before they even hit 30. Its pretty bad and its one of the reasons I quit using in 2001. Its not worth it
The steroids have always been there.
To me, it seems the use of accelerants may be to blame. Everyone is loading up on caffeine, ephedrine, and NOS and everything else before training., in 5 years we might be looking at this phase of "vascillators" as absolute lunacy.
Insulin is used more too, but most guys don't mess with that. I don't see the spikes in deaths related to that.
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Someone's is always laughing or talking shit behind your back no matter who you are. That's just life in general, bro. You simply can't know or control what others truly think about you so don't worry about it.
I just ignore what others say about me and keep training hard and competing. Fuck what everyone says about me because they wish they had the balls to compete or put their pictures up or use their real name.
"It's impossible to stop a man that just won't quit"
Good point Vince,I always put real pics of me up,but you're right,no matter who you are,somebody is talkin bad bout you
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The steroids have always been there.
To me, it seems the use of accelerants may be to blame. Everyone is loading up on caffeine, ephedrine, and NOS and everything else before training., in 5 years we might be looking at this phase of "vascillators" as absolute lunacy.
Insulin is used more too, but most guys don't mess with that. I don't see the spikes in deaths related to that.
Actually more people are messing with insulin because its easy to obtain. And you don't see the spikes in death simply because you don't notice them. In the paper, it will say heart failure, liver or kidney failure, diabetes related...etc. Its not going to say "steroids". Steroids may not cause death directly but its a contributor to other factors
And steroids have always been there and they've been killing people just as quick. Heck the person to created Dianabol bit the dust because of his own product.
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Believe me fat ass I will say anything to your face that i will on this CPU..trust me. I tell people all the time if they look like shit, and I also take the critisism myself as well... you can't handle the truth and have to start 25 pg threads on getbig to make yourself feel better which is sad my friend...
I am in better shape in my offseason CLEAN than you are competition shape.. Vince... WITHOUT ANY JUICE
You can try with all the rebuttal's but the facts are you look like shit clean or not and always will, but hey KEEP LIVING THAT DREAM!! hahahahah
No I don't think you would say shit in my face. But we'll never know because the wizard of oz isn't going to give you courage......
The only two people who have actually had the balls to get in my face is Don Long and Derek Anthony......of course Don for the wrong reason as he thought I was Goatboy.
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No I don't think you would say shit in my face. But we'll never know because the wizard of oz isn't going to give you courage......
The only two people who have actually had the balls to get in my face is Don Long and Derek Anthony......of course Don for the wrong reason as he thought I was Goatboy.
Vince trust me man..I would... I garuntee it. ;) Derek never said anything BTW he just spit on you... You think everybody on this board would honestly be the least bit scared to say anything to you...do you think this because you are black and I am white?? lol....your a moron...
I look forward to making fun of you in person, only time will tell. But since there will be a LINE of people in front of me to make fun of you it might be a while before I get to you..
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Vince trust me man..I would... I garuntee it. ;) Derek never said anything BTW he just spit on you... You think everybody on this board would honestly be the least bit scared to say anything to you...do you think this because you are black and I am white?? lol....your a moron...
I look forward to making fun of you in person, only time will tell. But since there will be a LINE of people in front of me to make fun of you it might be a while before I get to you..
Derek had a lot to say but we're cool now. I did some things and he did some things.....that's it.
And yes, just about everyone on this board is scared. Its why they post anonymously, don't show pictures, or anything.
There's no one in line so I guess you're next. Come get some.
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I just ignore what others say about me and keep training hard and competing. ...
"It's impossible to stop a man that just won't quit"
The problem is that your physique shows no visible evidence of hard training and/or a diciplined and well thought out diet. Nobody is stopping you, and you simply can't quit because you never began to train and diet in the first place.
You really should listen more to other people, because you have a lot to learn. Look to http://www.johnstonefitness.com for a person who achieved a much better physique than you without any drug use.
CD
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And yes, just about everyone on this board is scared. Its why they post anonymously, don't show pictures, or anything.
There is nothing to be gained from revealing ones identity on this board, but much to be lost, except for industri insiders/ competitors perhaps.
I don't want my employer to search Google with my real name, ending up in Getbig :-).
CD
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The problem is that your physique shows no visible evidence of hard training and/or a diciplined and well thought out diet. Nobody is stopping you, and you simply can't quit because you never began to train and diet in the first place.
You really should listen more to other people, because you have a lot to learn. Look to http://www.johnstonefitness.com for a person who achieved a much better physique than you without any drug use.
CD
Chuckle....he looks like John Basadow.
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Chuckle....he looks like John Basadow.
fixed the thread title ;D Vince Cum Swallowing Negro
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There is nothing to be gained from revealing ones identity on this board, but much to be lost, except for industri insiders/ competitors perhaps.
I don't want my employer to search Google with my real name, ending up in Getbig :-).
CD
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Liar
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Vince, serious question: what would you estimate you're sitting at BF%-wise?
Do you have anyone experienced who is taking a look at you and giving serious advice?
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
Cool. Another question if you don't mind. How far do you feel are you from maxing your genetic potential? Or rather, how much further you still think you can take it? Which bodybuilder can you end up looking like, realistically off course. All without steroids off course.
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Why do you guys let him get to you, even he knows he looks bad, he doesn't even try, that's whats so funny, theres no way he works out, he just has the balls to enter shows knowing he looks horrible, then he gets on here jerking your chains. Funny as hell.
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We'll see. I got 12 weeks to put it all together. If not, we'll extend it out. But like I said, I've still been training and have brought up my weak lats and keep my weight low so it would be easier for me to diet down
Man, you really did bring up the lats. If you time the peak right, you could really do some damage.
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damn melvin is making jokes and its disturbing to see some older getbig lads taking the bate
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Hi Melvin, what exactly was a lie? You do realize that there are people on this board that actually have real jobs?
CD
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Hi Melvin, what exactly was a lie? You do realize that there are people on this board that actually have real jobs?
CD
lol
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Vince, serious question: what would you estimate you're sitting at BF%-wise?
Do you have anyone experienced who is taking a look at you and giving serious advice?
Hey Van, would you be able to or have the capability bring Vince into shape or is it a foregone conclusion that he'll fuck it again?
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Hey Van, would you be able to or have the capability bring Vince into shape or is it a foregone conclusion that he'll fuck it again?
i think anyone can get in shape
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Hey Van, would you be able to or have the capability bring Vince into shape or is it a foregone conclusion that he'll fuck it again?
Maybe Van will just purchase Vince a decent alarm clock... ;D
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
You will never be a competitive bodybuilder for at least the following reasons:
1. Major narcissistic delusions that preclude realistic self-assessment and realistic goal-setting
2. Lack of self dicipline
3. Lack of knowledge regarding training and dieting
4. Lack of access to equipment and facilities for training
5. Bad structure. You have long legs with a short torso. Biceps have no height. You have bitch tits without even having much muscle mass. Probably general bad genetics for bodybuilding.
6. Social deficiencies (probably- if you are not a huge gimmick)
7. Economical problems that hinders your preparation (btw- beware of the quicksilver in all that tuna)
CD
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i think anyone can get in shape
True but some people need to be told what to do as they lake their own good judgment when preparing to do a show.
Maybe Van will just purchase Vince a decent alarm clock... ;D
That may be what it would take Vince being regimented by someone who knows what they're in for.
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You will never be a competitive bodybuilder for at least the following reasons:
1. Major narcissistic delusions that preclude realistic self-assessment and realistic goal-setting
2. Lack of self dicipline
3. Lack of knowledge regarding training and dieting
4. Lack of access to equipment and facilities for training
5. Bad structure. You have long legs with a short torso. Biceps have no height. You have bitch tits without even having much muscle mass. Probably general bad genetics for bodybuilding.
6. Social deficiencies (probably- if you are not a huge gimmick)
7. Economical problems that hinders your preparation (btw- beware of the quicksilver in all that tuna)
CD
;D Totally valid, but unfortunately wasted, on the delusional mess in question.
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Hey Goodrum did you know Rob Sager. Was he a friend. Also, post a pic of you training. And when you said there will always be people talking bad about you, do you realize that everyone talks bad about you. But I know you are to stupid to see it. Keep it up cause you are the funniest guy on here. Hard to explain but your ignorance, stupidity and delusionality is just funnier than anything on the internet. Do you have any pics of you and Vissy. The funny thing too is you don't need to photoshop to make your pics look funny. That is awesome! You have genetics of a lump of shit
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Hey Goodrum did you know Rob Sager. Was he a friend. Also, post a pic of you training. And when you said there will always be people talking bad about you, do you realize that everyone talks bad about you. But I know you are to stupid to see it. Keep it up cause you are the funniest guy on here. Hard to explain but your ignorance, stupidity and delusionality is just funnier than anything on the internet. Do you have any pics of you and Vissy. The funny thing too is you don't need to photoshop to make your pics look funny. That is awesome! You have genetics of a lump of shit
haha, Keef, bringing the pain. haha
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To be fair, Vince G CSN MFT is no idiot, imbecile or moron. Looking at his latest photos he does have potential and has improved since the Billy Guns showdown where he looked pudgy.
What amazes me is Goodrum is taking on the whole Getbig flotsam and is holding his own. Quite an achievement because most humans criticized like this would get depressed and quit. Goodrum just gets more motivated. He doesn't seem to have a job so I guess he is preparing for his next show full time. Who says being gay doesn't pay!
Goodrum doesn't look like shit. Oh, even he has admitted that in the past. He is just a tad smooth and in 12 weeks should be more defined. His skin looks a bit thick so he is finding it is not so easy to lose subcutaneous adipose tissue. He is entitled to dream about winning shows and definitely has the motivation to succeed. So he has the qualities to succeed. He has long muscle bellies and reasonably good shape. It is just taking a bit longer than most bodybuilders. We can only imagine what he would look like if he didn't have the discipline he has now.
I recommend that Melvin gets a regular job and then joins the best gym available. Training at home is seldom the best place to be consistent because there are too many distractions. He has pro quality posing trunks so has avoided the previous mistake of wearing white ones. Melvin is definitely Mr Getbig as far as dreaming goes. Who knows where his journey will end? I see great things ahead for Mr Goodrum.
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Hey Goodrum did you know Rob Sager. Was he a friend. Also, post a pic of you training. And when you said there will always be people talking bad about you, do you realize that everyone talks bad about you. But I know you are to stupid to see it. Keep it up cause you are the funniest guy on here. Hard to explain but your ignorance, stupidity and delusionality is just funnier than anything on the internet. Do you have any pics of you and Vissy. The funny thing too is you don't need to photoshop to make your pics look funny. That is awesome! You have genetics of a lump of shit
Post a pic of you walking. Better yet, post a pic period. At least Vince isn't ashamed of what he looks like.
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Post a pic of you walking. Better yet, post a pic period. At least Vince isn't ashamed of what he looks like.
Hey I can say that about you there twinky. He is too stupid just like you are. You are lucky I even respond to you. Face you go to bed thinking about me. And your constant supporting of Goodrum has confirmed your gayness. Be a man and just admit it. At least Goodrum isn't ashamed of what he is. Why are you? Have we seen your pic. I know I haven't. So post one just to let me know what you look like. Thanks
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Hey Van, would you be able to or have the capability bring Vince into shape or is it a foregone conclusion that he'll fuck it again?
He would need to be interned into some type of camp where he wouldn't be able to eat anything except what the trainer says. And workouts with a Nazi trainer who threatened him with grave bodily harm if he didn't exert himself. He could theoretically look awesome (for him) but it's not going to happen of course. Something's off mentally. Does he know what he looks like? Does he understand how much bodyfat he has (why I asked him where he thought he was at)? Theoretically he could lose the fat easily but either he doesn't care to do it or he has a dysmorphic disorder.
I really don't know what the deal is with this guy. On one hand he's delusional but he's not retarded, writes well and so on (just like Basile).
I would also like to add that Basile has the hots for Goodrum, has for years.
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Hey I can say that about you there twinky. He is too stupid just like you are. You are lucky I even respond to you. Face you go to bed thinking about me. And your constant supporting of Goodrum has confirmed your gayness. Be a man and just admit it. At least Goodrum isn't ashamed of what he is. Why are you? Have we seen your pic. I know I haven't. So post one just to let me know what you look like. Thanks
I have posted many pics. And I am not so much supporting Vince as I am pointing out how ridiculous that a morbidly obese bedridden man is making fun of a guy of average weight. Does that seem right to you? It just confuses the shit out of me.
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I think Melvin just likes to have people talking about him. The total gym? Yeah right.
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Goodum
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305 (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090304120149305)
Oh shit that was funny...Good work Onlyme...
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I have posted many pics. And I am not so much supporting Vince as I am pointing out how ridiculous that a morbidly obese bedridden man is making fun of a guy of average weight. Does that seem right to you? It just confuses the shit out of me.
If you have posted many then I am asking you to post just one. So I will wait there should be no problem
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If you have posted many then I am asking you to post just one. So I will wait there should be no problem
I only have like 4 pics of myself on my computer Keith. But here I am, flame away. How about a pic of you?
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I only have like 4 pics of myself on my computer Keith. But here I am, flame away. How about a pic of you?
hahahahaha epic...um.....er...TIE.. hahahaha :-\
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Hey, fellas, let's not let a sterling thread get sidetracked with guys smashing each other. This thread is about Melvin getting into shape for his next contest.
Just because Goodrum amuses me doesn't mean I am gay. He fooled everyone here in the past and even said he was getting married last fall. Shows what we knew. He did go on gay sites to get ammo to send to Derek's parents. The red flags were up.
Melvin is an unusual bloke. He isn't swayed by ridicule or scoffing. He treads on as if he alone has a strange destiny of grandeur. That is what drives most bodybuilders. To spend 10 or more years training to get up on stage in posing trunks is not for the weak. Enterring a contest takes nerve, dedication and discipline. Goodrum has no shame so that takes care of the nerve. He is totally dedicated to proving Getbig wrong. This might take some time. Along the bizarre journey we encounter many laughs. Wasn't it Vince G CSN MFT who makes important announcements such as the passing of Arthur Jones? This dude belongs on Getbig and up on stage. He is the epitome of the Getbig dream. Most dudes here would crawl away if exposed that they are gay. It doesn't put a dent in Melvin's armour. He comes back as straight as an arrow.
I do have a worry about the way he processes information. He swears I am against guys taking steroids. Nope. That is a personal but foolish choice. I am against having an athlete's rep who is cavalier about steroids and who doesn't actively campaign against them. Goodrum has come to grief using a home brew of vet roids. Who in their right mind would do such a thing? Well, Melvin was expert enough and besides he was low on cash so had to find a cheaper way to dose. Ah, the things bodybuilders do. I think Melvin is idle in that hillbilly area where he lives. If he got a job we would see a new Melvin here.
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I only have like 4 pics of myself on my computer Keith. But here I am, flame away. How about a pic of you?
See I have nothing bad to say about you. you look fine. See the problem is I know I look like shit now. Did I look bad when I was your age?? I sure don't think so and i can post pics all day of that era. But see i know I don't look good now. Goodrum does not know he looks like shit even after every single person has told him so. He is delusional I am not. I can make fun of him cause I have at least been in shape, had a career, made money and made a half way decent name for myself. I bring up my past because my past is still getting me things today. Most people don't forget the past. And my past was good enough to be able to help me during this shitty time. When he and others get to be my age what the fuck are they going to talk about. When you get like me unable to do some things you are used to doing hanging on to the past is about all you got to help you through the shitty times. You are not going to be able to relate to this as many others aren't either. I don't mind you guys calling me fat. I am the first to admit it. I also know what I can do and what I have actually done. You for some reason rag the shit out of me when I am pretty sure I never started anything with you. I come from a time when you have to retaliate against anyone who talks shit to you. That is just my nature. Way back it never happened to me. Cause back then you had to do things in person. So it never happened. Anyway, you can have your fun with me I don't mind. I will continue to fuck with Cumdrum cause he really deserves it.
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See I have nothing bad to say about you. you look fine. See the problem is I know I look like shit now. Did I look bad when I was your age?? I sure don't think so and i can post pics all day of that era. But see i know I don't look good now. Goodrum does not know he looks like shit even after every single person has told him so. He is delusional I am not. I can make fun of him cause I have at least been in shape, had a career, made money and made a half way decent name for myself. I bring up my past because my past is still getting me things today. Most people don't forget the past. And my past was good enough to be able to help me during this shitty time. When he and others get to be my age what the fuck are they going to talk about. When you get like me unable to do some things you are used to doing hanging on to the past is about all you got to help you through the shitty times. You are not going to be able to relate to this as many others aren't either. I don't mind you guys calling me fat. I am the first to admit it. I also know what I can do and what I have actually done. You for some reason rag the shit out of me when I am pretty sure I never started anything with you. I come from a time when you have to retaliate against anyone who talks shit to you. That is just my nature. Way back it never happened to me. Cause back then you had to do things in person. So it never happened. Anyway, you can have your fun with me I don't mind. I will continue to fuck with Cumdrum cause he really deserves it.
Fair enough. I just had more respect for you when you were here to help the younger guys and tell cool stories. You had a lot more respect back then, even if you don't realize it. But whatever makes you happy, I will still take you to lunch in June :) I gotta go and hopefully have a three way, have a good night.
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See I have nothing bad to say about you. you look fine. See the problem is I know I look like shit now. Did I look bad when I was your age?? I sure don't think so and i can post pics all day of that era. But see i know I don't look good now. Goodrum does not know he looks like shit even after every single person has told him so. He is delusional I am not. I can make fun of him cause I have at least been in shape, had a career, made money and made a half way decent name for myself. I bring up my past because my past is still getting me things today. Most people don't forget the past. And my past was good enough to be able to help me during this shitty time. When he and others get to be my age what the fuck are they going to talk about. When you get like me unable to do some things you are used to doing hanging on to the past is about all you got to help you through the shitty times. You are not going to be able to relate to this as many others aren't either. I don't mind you guys calling me fat. I am the first to admit it. I also know what I can do and what I have actually done. You for some reason rag the shit out of me when I am pretty sure I never started anything with you. I come from a time when you have to retaliate against anyone who talks shit to you. That is just my nature. Way back it never happened to me. Cause back then you had to do things in person. So it never happened. Anyway, you can have your fun with me I don't mind. I will continue to fuck with Cumdrum cause he really deserves it.
Why is this such a shitty time? Anything I can do?
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Fair enough. I just had more respect for you when you were here to help the younger guys and tell cool stories. You had a lot more respect back then, even if you don't realize it. But whatever makes you happy, I will still take you to lunch in June :) I gotta go and hopefully have a three way, have a good night.
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Yeah, DrKaje and I get playful in the water, so what?
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I will still take you to lunch in June :)
Better start saving now to cover the costs ;D
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Better start saving now to cover the costs ;D
I will use my (modest) expense account. I will just say I have a party of 8 or so :)
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Danielson, believe it or not but Keith doesn't really eat that much. I can almost guarantee ya that he'll be eating far less that anyone else seated at the table.
And he'll be telling some damn funny stories while everyone else is dining heartedly and laughing mightely. (New word - Sorry!)
For the record, I think most of us rag on Vince because he is so delusional. But I have to admit that he would be an interesting guy to meet and argue intelligently with.
And, I hope I am wrong here but I see absolutely no potential when it comes to Vince's physique. Great to see that he's trying though.
And lastly, I'm not aware of the legalities involved but if I was promoting a BB event, I would do everything legally possible to prevent Vince from entering any contest that is open to any athlete outside of the Novice class. But the problem here is that to the best of my understanding "novice" means any one who has not either entered a previous BB contest or anyone who has never taken home a trophy.
Vince has managed to do both and therefore is no longer a novice, so the real problem lies within the NPC because they have no rule that prevent this sort of stupidity. (Respectfully stated, but the truth nonetheless).
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Danielson, believe it or not but Keith doesn't really eat that much. I can almost guarantee ya that he'll be eating far less that anyone else seated at the table.
And he'll be telling some damn funny stories while everyone else is dining heartedly and laughing mightely. (New word - Sorry!)
For the record, I think most of us rag on Vince because he is so delusional. But I have to admit that he would be an interesting guy to meet and argue intelligently with.
And, I hope I am wrong here but I see absolutely no potential when it comes to Vince's physique. Great to see that he's trying though.
And lastly, I'm not aware of the legalities involved but if I was promoting a BB event, I would do everything legally possible to prevent Vince from entering any contest that is open to any athlete outside of the Novice class. But the problem here is that to the best of my understanding "novice" means any one who has not either entered a previous BB contest or anyone who has never taken home a trophy.
Vince has managed to do both and therefore is no longer a novice, so the real problem lies within the NPC because they have no rule that prevent this sort of stupidity. (Respectfully stated, but the truth nonetheless).
Be honest here cuz I know you are a straight shooter, did you like Keith more(Getbig speaking) when he was more chill and helpful or now that he stalks Vince?
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Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.
And to be even more honest .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.
ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......
.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.
You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.
This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.
ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.
BTW, Dan, thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.
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this exchange with danielson and keith reminds me of this....
danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...
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I will use my (modest) expense account. I will just say I have a party of 8 or so :)
Better double that party
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Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.
And to be even more honest .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.
ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......
.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.
You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.
This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.
ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.
BTW, Dan, thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.
Keith stalks me like he stalks doughnuts.
He even called a pizza company back in 2006 to have a pizza delivered to me at my hotel when I was competing.
Now that's not as bad as Basile calling my hotel in Las Vegas 3 times but stalking is stalking. The fact is that Keith attempts to make fun of me to feel better about his fatal morbid obese condition.
Doesn't work
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this exchange with danielson and keith reminds me of this....
danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...
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Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.
And to be even more honest .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.
ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......
.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.
You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.
This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.
ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.
BTW, Dan, thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.
The thing is, who is Vince hurting? He competes cuz he likes to try and better himself, what's the harm? I can not fathom why an older gentleman like Keith has such a problem with the guy, even to the extent of calling him a monkey amongst other things. There is harmless fun and there is stalking and Keith crossed that line a long time ago. Basile has done the same, but no one ever respected that guy anyway.
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you know to be fair to goodrum when MD was having it little bitch war with GB, he was one of the first guys to come out flying the GB flag over there.
he also has a kinda unbreakable spirit and eternal optimism that I find touching.
he still has a go at life when keith seem to have given up.
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The thing is, who is Vince hurting? He competes cuz he likes to try and better himself, what's the harm? I can not fathom why an older gentleman like Keith has such a problem with the guy, even to the extent of calling him a monkey amongst other things. There is harmless fun and there is stalking and Keith crossed that line a long time ago. Basile has done the same, but no one ever respected that guy anyway.
Its not that he is hurting anyone....its that he thinks he is on such a higher level than he really is. He makes claim after claim after claim. Then, when someone who can not only talk the talk but walk the walk comes forth he has the balls to still talk shit. There have been multiple people who have offered to help him prep for a show...FOR FREE. Yet, does he takle advatage? Nope. That proves how he really DOESN'T take this seriously and obviously LOVES the attention (albiet negative) he gets. He made a bet with me last year...then never followed through with it (Its all in the posts vince). He talks about "mentzer-like conditioning". Dear lord.
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Its not that he is hurting anyone....its that he thinks he is on such a higher level than he really is. He makes claim after claim after claim. Then, when someone who can not only talk the talk but walk the walk comes forth he has the balls to still talk shit. There have been multiple people who have offered to help him prep for a show...FOR FREE. Yet, does he takle advatage? Nope. That proves how he really DOESN'T take this seriously and obviously LOVES the attention (albiet negative) he gets. He made a bet with me last year...then never followed through with it (Its all in the posts vince). He talks about "mentzer-like conditioning". Dear lord.
I've only taken help from people who are SINCERE ABOUT DOING IT. I also don't take advice from someone using steroids because it obviously won't work for me.
As far as you're concerned, I certainly won't wish to take the advice from someone who has ridiculed me in the past so fuck off. Honestly if you in my place you would say the same
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you know to be fair to goodrum when MD was having it little bitch war with GB, he was one of the first guys to come out flying the GB flag over there.
he also has a kinda unbreakable spirit and eternal optimism that I find touching.
he still has a go at life when keith seem to have given up.
I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one. I actually have respect for the guy now.
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Well, I could possibly be entirely wrong here because "meeting" one's persona on a internet board, hardly qualifies me or others to gain a valid understanding or opinion of another's true character; but I see nothing that I can respect regarding Vince as he presents himself on this board.
In my humble opinion he is nothing but an embarrassment.
And I mean that with all due respect to Vince as an individual human being.
You guys who encourage him to compete are less of a "friend" to him than I am who at least attempts in a limited and polite way to suggest that he stay away from bodybuilding competitions unless he has a seat in the audience.
Any lesser friend would encourage him to make a fool of himself and stand up there in his posing trunks.
NASCAR doesn't allow a Model T on that track and the NPC should do the same unless a contest is specifically organized for those who are similar to Vince's caliber.
Actually, I'm not attacking Vince! I'm simply attacking the regulations (or lack of regulations) that allow something like this to happen.
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Vince would get more respect if he didn't lie about himself or personally attack others. For example, if he didn't make claims like "Munzer-like conditioning" or "19 inch arms" or "I can bench press 315 lbs for reps," or the way he challenges other members and says he looks much better than them, he claimed to look better than 95% (orwas it 99, I can't remember now) of getbiggers, etc.
Didn't he also send g4p photos of Derek Anthony to his parents (before the spitting incident)? That's getting pretty personal. He also expressed happiness at the possibility of Romano getting his condo repo'd. I don't even follow his posts that much, I'm sure if I did I would have an even much longer list of wrongs.
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Vince has better calves than Mr. Olympia
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I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one. I actually have respect for the guy now.
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I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one. I actually have respect for the guy now.
Not only that , he is a dedicated top man and has a white boy bottom. 400 years ago Vince would be baling cotton and singing to himself with that insane grin on his face, now he's fucking the slave owner in the ass and making him fart out his cum.
that's some pretty big role reversal shit 8)
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Well, I could possibly be entirely wrong here because "meeting" one's persona on a internet board, hardly qualifies me or others to gain a valid understanding or opinion of another's true character; but I see nothing that I can respect regarding Vince as he presents himself on this board.
In my humble opinion he is nothing but an embarrassment.
And I mean that with all due respect to Vince as an individual human being.
You guys who encourage him to compete are less of a "friend" to him than I am who at least attempts in a limited and polite way to suggest that he stay away from bodybuilding competitions unless he has a seat in the audience.
Any lesser friend would encourage him to make a fool of himself and stand up there in his posing trunks.
NASCAR doesn't allow a Model T on that track and the NPC should do the same unless a contest is specifically organized for those who are similar to Vince's caliber.
Actually, I'm not attacking Vince! I'm simply attacking the regulations (or lack of regulations) that allow something like this to happen.
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NASCAR is a professional racing league, the NPC is the amateur league you idiot. The junior division is reserved for people who have already competed but are not ready for the open division.
So...did I not compete in the junior division???? Ummmmm.....yep. And honestly, there were people in a lot worse shape at that event. So please shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about.
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To be fair, Vince G CSN MFT is no idiot, imbecile or moron. Looking at his latest photos he does have potential and has improved since the Billy Guns showdown where he looked pudgy.
Goodrum just gets more motivated. Who says being gay doesn't pay!
Goodrum doesn't look like shit. Oh, even he has admitted that in the past. He has long muscle bellies and reasonably good shape.
And if you believe that ,your just as deliousional as he is. I really like the part about being in reasonbly good shape, Ialmost fell out of my chair on that one.
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Vince would get more respect if he didn't lie about himself or personally attack others. For example, if he didn't make claims like "Munzer-like conditioning" or "19 inch arms" or "I can bench press 315 lbs for reps," or the way he challenges other members and says he looks much better than them, he claimed to look better than 95% (orwas it 99, I can't remember now) of getbiggers, etc.
You are the king of getting people riled up on here, why is it different when Vince does it?
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I've only taken help from people who are SINCERE ABOUT DOING IT. I also don't take advice from someone using steroids because it obviously won't work for me.
As far as you're concerned, I certainly won't wish to take the advice from someone who has ridiculed me in the past so fuck off. Honestly if you in my place you would say the same
Vince..I offered WAY before you turned into a bigger asshole than I recall you being on Mayhem. In fact, it was only AFTER you were a dick to me after giving you advice on your PI case that I felt you didnt deserve one iota of respect from me. Even after that, I felt bad about how you were being treated and tried to look past it and help you out. Again, TRYING to be better about someone who might need some help. Its called giving of yourself. You again were a dick. Hell, if I knew you were absolutely 100% serious and really werent pulling everyone's leg about doing a show...I would EVEN NOW offer to help you prep for this show. Why? Because maybe...JUST MAYBE....you will realize what it actually takes and you could learn something from someone who just might know a thing or two more than you do. Its all you Vince. I know prep guys charge $800 - $2000 for it. Why am I offering...who the fuck knows. I know that if you did follow what I told you, that you just might shut some people up.
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Not only that , he is a dedicated top man and has a white boy bottom. 400 years ago Vince would be baling cotton and singing to himself with that insane grin on his face, now he's fucking the slave owner in the ass and making him fart out his cum.
that's some pretty big role reversal shit 8)
WTF?!
You're saving the funny posts for these guys?!!?!
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You are the king of getting people riled up on here, why is it different when Vince does it?
If Vince is making all those claims as a joke to rile people up then okay, that's funny - but it just doesn't seem like he is. :-\ What do you think?
Also, I never blatantly lie about numbers or specific claims with myself or with Nasser.
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danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/Ari.gif)
;D
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I did call Melvin at his hotel when he was at the Olympia for the Billy Guns showdown. I asked if he needed any money because he said he was using coupons, etc., for food. He said he didn't need any help. He didn't feel like talking because I think he had someone there with him. So I do support underdogs and Goodrum is certainly that. Not in his mind, of course, and therein lies the mirth that keeps Keith and me responding to Melvin's posts. Same old, same old. No matter what anyone says about Melvin he is a character. Remember that audio clip he used to have on Caliber Fitness? That was a hoot.
To Stunt Movie. Remember Eddie the hero from England in the ski jumping event at the Olympics? The guy came last but did represent England in that event. So I never stop anyone who is fair dinkum from enterring bodybuilding contests. There are no rules about who can enter most shows. However, some contests cut out the lower placing contestants in the prejudging and we don't see them at the evening show.
Most bodybuilding shows are rather boring events. When some serious wannabe like Goodrum shows up doing the fancy posing but without the physique to suit it can be interesting. Such guys do entertain. I would hate to see an end to these exhibitions. Contests are a good way to get motivated and so everyone should be able to enter. Organizers don't mind, either, because every contestant brings some supporters and the more in the audience the better.
As a gym owner I have seen many guys dream about winning shows or bench pressing 400 pounds. Few ever achieve these goals but I don't discourage anyone from trying to win a show or get stronger. If you take those dreams from people they lose the motivation to train.
About so called stalking Goodrum and others. I find it ironical that guys like Danielson have an agenda against Keith and me and keeps targeting us. That is a form of stalking, too. Keith and I are just amusing ourselves and Getbig and Goodrum gives back as good as he gets so doesn't need any help or protecting.
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NASCAR is a professional racing league, the NPC is the amateur league you idiot. The junior division is reserved for people who have already competed but are not ready for the open division.
So...did I not compete in the junior division???? Ummmmm.....yep. And honestly, there were people in a lot worse shape at that event. So please shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about.
hahahahahahaahahha now that could be the funniest line you have ever said. Cumdrum you are a joke that is why I make fun of you. You deserve everything you get on here cause you have constantly been full of shit. You make up so much crap it's unreal. You come on here telling everyone how great a shape you will be in and you look the same............like shit. You come on here pretending you "are in the know" and you don't know shit. You make up things to make yourself feel better. I don't need to say shit about you to make me feel better. You aren't even in the same ballpark with my achievements and accomplishments. My daughter has actually done more with her life than you and she is much younger. Dude you are a JOKE. Plain and simple. You are to fucking stupid to realize it how EVERYONE laughs at you, NOT with you. I fuck with you cause it is funnier as hell. You bring it on yourself with your big mouth and no action shit. You are an embarrassment to any show you go to not only enter. Stuntmovie is right, there should be a way to not allow jokes like you to enter a contest. All you do is lower the standards. And what is even funnier is how you state Stuntmovie has no idea what he is talking about. Now that is funny. You have NO idea who he is, but I assure you, you don't come close to who and what he knows.
Your wesbite too is full of shit. How come you don't post any of your pics on your website. Why is that? Is it because you know if anyone saw what you look like NO ONE would listen to you at all. You post up fake credentials and bullshit claims. You tell everyone how great your business is yet you live like a slob in a fucking dump. You don't even clean up after yourself. Anyone who thinks I am stalking this moron is way wrong. I come on here and read some things and always come across some bullshit this idiot is spewing. It aggravates me that someone like this is on here. Hopefully people will see through his bullshit and not listen to him. He comes from a small hillbilly town and has a small minded thought process. He pretends like he knows people and knows things yet he don't know shit. Whats funny is many others support everything I say about him. EVERYONE has only negative shit to say about him. Yet he continues to try and impress up with more bullshit.
And the pizza thing was awesome. Hey Cumdrum where are those pics of you in the gym.
If you think this is stalking then sorry I guess I am a stalker. ::)
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I did call Melvin at his hotel when he was at the Olympia for the Billy Guns showdown. I asked if he needed any money because he said he was using coupons, etc., for food. He said he didn't need any help. He didn't feel like talking because I think he had someone there with him. So I do support underdogs and Goodrum is certainly that. Not in his mind, of course, and therein lies the mirth that keeps Keith and me responding to Melvin's posts. Same old, same old. No matter what anyone says about Melvin he is a character. Remember that audio clip he used to have on Caliber Fitness? That was a hoot.
To Stunt Movie. Remember Eddie the hero from England in the ski jumping event at the Olympics? The guy came last but did represent England in that event. So I never stop anyone who is fair dinkum from enterring bodybuilding contests. There are no rules about who can enter most shows. However, some contests cut out the lower placing contestants in the prejudging and we don't see them at the evening show.
Most bodybuilding shows are rather boring events. When some serious wannabe like Goodrum shows up doing the fancy posing but without the physique to suit it can be interesting. Such guys do entertain. I would hate to see an end to these exhibitions. Contests are a good way to get motivated and so everyone should be able to enter. Organizers don't mind, either, because every contestant brings some supporters and the more in the audience the better.
As a gym owner I have seen many guys dream about winning shows or bench pressing 400 pounds. Few ever achieve these goals but I don't discourage anyone from trying to win a show or get stronger. If you take those dreams from people they lose the motivation to train.
About so called stalking Goodrum and others. I find it ironical that guys like Danielson have an agenda against Keith and me and keeps targeting us. That is a form of stalking, too. Keith and I are just amusing ourselves and Getbig and Goodrum gives back as good as he gets so doesn't need any help or protecting.
You just like to type.
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Keith, how could you have missed the Goodrum-Billy Guns showdown? That would have been a stellar show.
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I find it ironical that guys like Danielson have an agenda against Keith and me and keeps targeting us. That is a form of stalking, too. Keith and I are just amusing ourselves and Getbig and Goodrum gives back as good as he gets so doesn't need any help or protecting.
Vince is a poor guy from the south, he likes to workout and entertains us all with his antics. Why pick on the guy so much? There are guys on here like Xfactor and Mindspin who are more successful and look better than you and Keith, do you see them constantly picking on you guys? Just seems like typical school yard bullying to me.
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If Vince is making all those claims as a joke to rile people up then okay, that's funny - but it just doesn't seem like he is. :-\ What do you think?
Also, I never blatantly lie about numbers or specific claims with myself or with Nasser.
Vince knows what he is doing and how to get people riled up, same as you do with your constant Nasser talk. ;)
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Goodrum replies to most comments about him and is sometimes more offensive than the critics or scoffers. That is the way it goes on Getbig. It is fun until people target us.
What is the difference between having a go at Melvin and doing what Danielson is doing. Namely, targetting those who have a go at Goodrum? It amuses me the way ethics applies only to those criticized and not the person doing the targetting.
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What is the difference between having a go at Melvin and doing what Danielson is doing. Namely, targetting those who have a go at Goodrum? It amuses me the way ethics applies only to those criticized and not the person doing the targetting.
I don't make posts about you day in and day out for years.
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..You post up fake credentials and bullshit claims. You tell everyone how great your business is yet you live like a slob in a fucking dump. You don't even clean up after yourself. Anyone who thinks I am stalking this moron is way wrong. I come on here and read some things and always come across some bullshit this idiot is spewing.
Vince is one of the mostly benign narcissists of the world. He probably actually believe that he is able to benchpress 395 pounds, he probably believe he is "in the know", he probably believe that he is well educated and muscular, ready to launch his revolutionary business concept and to win shows.
This is the nature of benign narcissism. Such people take credit for feats they never accomplished, in their own world they are gods. Lying is second nature to them, and it isn't even a conventional lie, because they actually believe the lies to be true on some level. Vince and all the other narcissists may know that there are inaccuracies in the info they present, but it doesn't matter, because deep down, they are the winners- if they only can get the small, necessary details right (like training and dieting), they are the best. Never mind that while being closer to 40 than 30, they never achieved a single thing in their life, because success is always just around the corner. Just a few details right and glory is theirs.
CD
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Yep, CD pretty well sums up benign narcissist, Vince G CSN MFT. Who else would donate money to an obscure religious college to get their PhD in metaphysics? Our own Melvin Goodrum. He knocks my gym because I painted a couple of pieces a purple colour. As if that dismisses good gym equipment. Melvin hasn't achieved much but then not many on Getbig have. So the flotsam dream on and bagging other guys re their physique is a bit like how everyone can knock women who are not that attractive. You don't have to be an expert to know if someone comes up short in contests. We await the day when Melvin can actually enter an open contest, let alone place in one! He has already figured out he had better enter natural shows because he would have no chance in the open shows. In the meantime, he looks good in the mirrors in his house and to his partner.
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Vince is one of the mostly benign narcissists of the world. He probably actually believe that he is able to benchpress 395 pounds, he probably believe he is "in the know", he probably believe that he is well educated and muscular, ready to launch his revolutionary business concept and to win shows.
This is the nature of benign narcissism. Such people take credit for feats they never accomplished, in their own world they are gods. Lying is second nature to them, and it isn't even a conventional lie, because they actually believe the lies to be true on some level. Vince and all the other narcissists may know that there are inaccuracies in the info they present, but it doesn't matter, because deep down, they are the winners- if they only can get the small, necessary details right (like training and dieting), they are the best. Never mind that while being closer to 40 than 30, they never achieved a single thing in their life, because success is always just around the corner. Just a few details right and glory is theirs.
CD
I agree with you. I truly think he believes his own bullshit. But I come from a time where if you do this crap you usually have to prove it at some time and in person not over a computer. He is like one of those bullys who pick on smaller kids and runs away before anyone can get him. He says shit on here that is 100% false and fake and no one can stop him cause he is behind a computer. He has a website that misleads people BIGTIME. He shows no pictures at all. He makes statements that are far fetched. See I can't stand shit like that. But, there are a few on here that seem to support his shit which kind of tells me there are more than just him that do this. Anyway, I will continue to do what I do to him. He can keep calling me fat and I will keep exposing his bullshit. Kind of a wash.
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Hey, Keith, no amount of bagging Melvin dents his thick hide. Some guys you just can't help. Gyms attract these kinds of heroes. The guy is made of sterner stuff. He alone is right and the rest of us are wrong. Makes sense to his distorted view of the world.
What I used to think was that maybe Melvin was handicapped and was being supported in his endeavour to earn a living and win some bodybuilding shows.You know how everyone is soon an expert who lifts weights. That is no exception to Vince G CSN MFT. Everyone who is of average intellect soon realizes where they stand. Not Goodrum. The narcissism in him demands that he keep posting his plans and achievements here on Getbig. Our own Walter Mitty in the physique world. The deeds that this dude will one day achieve are legendary. Wonder what excuse he will use when he either doesn't show up or doesn't place in his next show?
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Yep, CD pretty well sums up benign narcissist, Vince G CSN MFT.
Basile calling out a narcissist?
Balls, man. Big, sweaty, old-man saggy, going on and on 'cause I'm clever and important and LOOK-AT-ME in blue! hypocrite balls.
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Vinces latest pic..
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Vince..I offered WAY before you turned into a bigger asshole than I recall you being on Mayhem. In fact, it was only AFTER you were a dick to me after giving you advice on your PI case that I felt you didnt deserve one iota of respect from me. Even after that, I felt bad about how you were being treated and tried to look past it and help you out. Again, TRYING to be better about someone who might need some help. Its called giving of yourself. You again were a dick. Hell, if I knew you were absolutely 100% serious and really werent pulling everyone's leg about doing a show...I would EVEN NOW offer to help you prep for this show. Why? Because maybe...JUST MAYBE....you will realize what it actually takes and you could learn something from someone who just might know a thing or two more than you do. Its all you Vince. I know prep guys charge $800 - $2000 for it. Why am I offering...who the fuck knows. I know that if you did follow what I told you, that you just might shut some people up.
I already have more help than you'll know. I'm not going to bring up any details but things are covered.
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Vince is a poor guy from the south, he likes to workout and entertains us all with his antics. Why pick on the guy so much? There are guys on here like Xfactor and Mindspin who are more successful and look better than you and Keith, do you see them constantly picking on you guys? Just seems like typical school yard bullying to me.
Well, I'm not poor. I just live frugally. Just because you have money doesn't mean you spend it all
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I agree with you. I truly think he believes his own bullshit. But I come from a time where if you do this crap you usually have to prove it at some time and in person not over a computer. He is like one of those bullys who pick on smaller kids and runs away before anyone can get him. He says shit on here that is 100% false and fake and no one can stop him cause he is behind a computer. He has a website that misleads people BIGTIME. He shows no pictures at all. He makes statements that are far fetched. See I can't stand shit like that. But, there are a few on here that seem to support his shit which kind of tells me there are more than just him that do this. Anyway, I will continue to do what I do to him. He can keep calling me fat and I will keep exposing his bullshit. Kind of a wash.
I just redesigned the website but I'll tell you what. You put some recent pictures of yourself up here and I'll do the same on my website.
But I don't think you will because you're a fat ass who has no life and a franchise with no buyers..... ;D
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I already have more help than you'll know. I'm not going to bring up any details but things are covered.
Hope you cover yourself up. Again you are full of shit. You'll look alot better.
Well, I'm not poor. I just live frugally. Just because you have money doesn't mean you spend it all
Again full of shit. If you have any money and you don't spend it at least to keep your place clean then you are a low life. It's that simple. If you can't even have the decency to keep your home clean then we can imagine how dirty you are. Face it you live like shit cause you have nothing. QUit fucking pretending you ass. And your opinion of being poor is making $100 a week. What a fucking embarrassment you are to Queer Vissy.
I just redesigned the website but I'll tell you what. You put some recent pictures of yourself up here and I'll do the same on my website.
But I don't think you will because you're a fat ass who has no life and a franchise with no buyers..... ;D
hahahaha I am not the idiot who brags about how good he looks. You are an ignorant moron who constantly brags about shit like how great you look when in fact you look like shit. When I tart bragging about what I look like now I'll have no problem posting pics of me. So post some pics asshole and shut us up. Post them on your website and quit misleading people.
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Vince is one of the mostly benign narcissists of the world. He probably actually believe that he is able to benchpress 395 pounds, he probably believe he is "in the know", he probably believe that he is well educated and muscular, ready to launch his revolutionary business concept and to win shows.
This is the nature of benign narcissism. Such people take credit for feats they never accomplished, in their own world they are gods. Lying is second nature to them, and it isn't even a conventional lie, because they actually believe the lies to be true on some level. Vince and all the other narcissists may know that there are inaccuracies in the info they present, but it doesn't matter, because deep down, they are the winners- if they only can get the small, necessary details right (like training and dieting), they are the best. Never mind that while being closer to 40 than 30, they never achieved a single thing in their life, because success is always just around the corner. Just a few details right and glory is theirs.
CD
profound...good post
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Fantastic almost 8000 hits and still going STRONG.I laugh at IFBB Pro show threads with 2000+ hits HAHAHAHAHA What a classic.Vince all letters is bigger than the IFBB on a BB board.
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Well, I'm not poor. I just live frugally. Just because you have money doesn't mean you spend it all
You see, Melvin, you give the lads too much information about yourself. Fess up, you don't have a job.
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Again, I don't want to rag on Vince, but he does look terrible. The thing is, I'm still convinced he is just one big gimmick, out to wind people up. He is either the most deluded person I have ever came across in 28 years alive on this planet, or he is just fucking with all of us. But really, he does no harm in his little corner of N.C. Let's just enjoy him for what he is and allow us to prove him wrong, again and again as his pictures appear. I really do wish you good luck with the bodybuilding endeavors, I just don't think you would know what to do with it once luck finds you. We look forward to more pictures Vince.
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What do you guys would think if Keith and Vince met in person? Would they fight? Who would win?
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What do you guys would think if Keith and Vince met in person? Would they fight? Who would win?
Would Keith spit on Vince?
Would Vince have to bite Keith? :o
Very good question
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Again, I don't want to rag on Vince, but he does look terrible. The thing is, I'm still convinced he is just one big gimmick, out to wind people up. He is either the most deluded person I have ever came across in 28 years alive on this planet, or he is just fucking with all of us. But really, he does no harm in his little corner of N.C. Let's just enjoy him for what he is and allow us to prove him wrong, again and again as his pictures appear. I really do wish you good luck with the bodybuilding endeavors, I just don't think you would know what to do with it once luck finds you. We look forward to more pictures Vince.
hahaha the real guy in those pics has no idea.
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That is what I think too. I'll actually be a bit gutted when Vince comes clean one day and admit he was just fucking with us all along. He was the cause of some great laughs around here. You're just fucking with us, right Vince?
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Would Keith spit on Vince?
Would Vince have to bite Keith? :o
Very good question
He probably would try to eat me like some sort of chocolate bar. Keith is soooooooooooooo phat
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Hope you cover yourself up. Again you are full of shit. You'll look alot better.
Again full of shit. If you have any money and you don't spend it at least to keep your place clean then you are a low life. It's that simple. If you can't even have the decency to keep your home clean then we can imagine how dirty you are. Face it you live like shit cause you have nothing. QUit fucking pretending you ass. And your opinion of being poor is making $100 a week. What a fucking embarrassment you are to Queer Vissy.
hahahaha I am not the idiot who brags about how good he looks. You are an ignorant moron who constantly brags about shit like how great you look when in fact you look like shit. When I tart bragging about what I look like now I'll have no problem posting pics of me. So post some pics asshole and shut us up. Post them on your website and quit misleading people.
Sooo....where are your recent pictures at, Piggy. I'm sure that there's a camera with a really wide screen lens that can do it for you
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Sooo....where are your recent pictures at, Piggy. I'm sure that there's a camera with a really wide screen lens that can do it for you
You should also try cleaning your lense as well because all I see is a big pile of SHIT in every pic you post ::)
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So is Vince gay then or what? I joined here, then didn't post for a two year stretch, so not sure what happened in this gay episode. Is this for real or is guys just digging him out again? Also, has he put on ANY size the last 2-3 years at all? Be honest, don't just rag on him cause it's fun. Did he actually put on size or not?
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So is Vince gay then or what? I joined here, then didn't post for a two year stretch, so not sure what happened in this gay episode. Is this for real or is guys just digging him out again? Also, has he put on ANY size the last 2-3 years at all? Be honest, don't just rag on him cause it's fun. Did he actually put on size or not?
Size: no
gay: yes
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Let's keep this important thread on page 1. The Arnold is over for another year.
Last year someone discovered love letters on My Space involving Vince G and his male friend. Onlyme found it and it was no holding back after that. Goodrum survived, no worries at all.
Will Melvin dial in his condition or not? He has 11 weeks to go and has professional trainers and advisors in his corner. How can he not succeed?
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hahahhaha @
creating hype for Melvin's return to the bodybuilding stage
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bump for the Resurrection of Vince!
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You have arms as longs as orangutangs in this video!!
People think that getbig is a joke because of you!
Way to represent!
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/)
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You have arms as longs as orangutangs in this video!!
People think that getbig is a joke because of you!
Way to represent!
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/)
I swear this is the first time I saw that video. That is hilarious! You know MD uses the association of Goodrum and Getbig to put this site down. Goodrum can't pose at all, looks like shit and it just funny looking. And you are right about the arms. ;D
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That orangutang got more muscle than Vince though.
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You have arms as longs as orangutangs in this video!!
People think that getbig is a joke because of you!
Way to represent!
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1198/164/)
haha, Billy is taking it all seriously, Vince is just laughing and joking.
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Melvin does have long arms. Compare his against Billy Guns who is a taller bloke. It must be difficult to develop mass in those long arms. Imagine what his potential would be if he did train properly and in a decent gym.
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Goodrum, in all seriousness, do you even notice how the people around you in the pics are laughing?
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Vince if you like to compete then by all means go ahead but you're terrible,just so you know
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Melvin does have long arms. Compare his against Billy Guns who is a taller bloke. It must be difficult to develop mass in those long arms. Imagine what his potential would be if he did train properly and in a decent gym.
Doesn't matter,you can't polish a turd. Best bet for Vince is a plastic surgeon. Implants & lipo are the ONLY thing that could possibly help his physique.
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Or actually hard training?
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Or actually hard training?
Im telling you he's prob the only black man in the world w/zero genetics.
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You guys are way too hard on Melvin Goodrum. His genetics are okay. I doubt he trains that consistently or hard enough to cause much hypertrophy. He lives in a small town in the backwoods of NC and even though Silva boasts two gyms, Melvin doesn't have the funds to attend. So he makes do at home probably lifting bricks or doing pushups. His shape and long muscle bellies mean he could present well on stage if he got more size then got rid of sufficient body fat to display some cuts. It is possible. However, I admit he needs a new mirror in his residence because the one he is using distorts what he sees.
Melvin hasn't worked for some time now. Oh, I forgot, he is self-employed but probably qualifies for some government help to pay bills and get enough food to eat. People like that have to live frugally and they often buy cheap foods that are high in calories. You would think a dude like Goodrum, who has a certificate in sports nutrition, should know more about what to eat but the way he presents looking a bit smooth suggests he has a lot to learn. His progress over the years indicates that he has no additional muscular size but almost as much bodyfat as before. Instead of improving his physique he keeps looking for easier contests to place in! What kind of bodybuilding strategy is that? Melvin is truly the epitome of a mirror athlete.
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Vince, you can shut these guys up by showing a picture of your gym room. Show us a pic and watch these guys eat their words!
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You guys are way too hard on Melvin Goodrum. His genetics are okay. I doubt he trains that consistently or hard enough to cause much hypertrophy. He lives in a small town in the backwoods of NC and even though Silva boasts two gyms, Melvin doesn't have the funds to attend. So he makes do at home probably lifting bricks or doing pushups.
Vince, put the bong down & put your glasses on, just because he lives in NC doesn't mean anything. NC has some really nice gyms throughout the state. From the looks of the pics he has completely stopped what little he had been working out. Hell, he could powerwalk 15min in the morning & do 25 pushups & look better than he did.Esp. with ALL the knowledge he (supposedly) has in training & supplements. He is one of those who competes JUST to be able to say he competes. He couldn't beat a 60yr old in a Masters comp.
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Looks like Bigfoot was in our midst the whole freakin time!
Notice the long forearms and the titties?!
Vince is the ilusive Bigfoot living in the North Carolina backwoods!!
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Looks like Bigfoot was in our midst the whole freakin time!
Notice the long forearms and the titties?!
Vince is the ilusive Bigfoot living in the North Carolina backwoods!!
He's not a Sasquatch. Note the muscle density of the creature, which Venom Vince has none. I finally broke down & watched the video. How in the f*ck could you (& BG) get up in front of everyone & do that??Esp looking like that??? Clueless, absolutely clueless.
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83 more hits to be at 8000 and you have almost Double any IFBB Pro show hits at 8000 hits,It's confirmed VinceG is bigger than the IFBB.
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How in the f*ck could you (& BG) get up in front of everyone & do that??Esp looking like that??? Clueless, absolutely clueless.
Yes, Vince G CSN MFT PhD has no shame whatsoever. He boasted about having Munzer-like conditioning before that showdown with Billy Guns. The dude took his shirt off and howls of laughter erupted from the spectators and fitness chicks on hand. I swear I would have been rolling on the floor laughing my ass off at this spectacle.
You have to admire a clown like Goodrum who can pull off a posedown without doing any training whatsoever in the lead up to the Olympia. Goodrum became an instant legend after this show.
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"Yes, Vince G CSN MFT PhD has no shame whatsoever. He boasted about having Munzer-like conditioning before that showdown with Billy Guns. The dude took his shirt off and howls of laughter erupted from the spectators and fitness chicks on hand. I swear I would have been rolling on the floor laughing my ass off at this spectacle".
God, you can take me away,because I've seen & heard EVERYTHING now, Munzer-like conditioning??? Even in his decomposing state (forgive me) he'd STILL look better than Vince. I mean honestly does he even train?? I won't ask about dieting. Disgusting :-X :-X
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Melvin was the victim of bad lighting on the day. Look at him here to see he does have some muscles.
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Melvin was the victim of bad lighting on the day. Look at him here to see he does have some muscles.
You are truly obsessed with me..... ::)
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No, Melvin, I never fail to be amused by you. Always the wannabe. You need all the help you can get.
Let's just say you are a project of mine and I am trying to help you achieve your dreams. Part of that assistance is to make sure you don't lose contact with reality.
Hope this helps!
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I'm starting to think this Vince guy is actually serious and not just a gimmick ???
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No, Melvin, I never fail to be amused by you. Always the wannabe. You need all the help you can get.
Let's just say you are a project of mine and I am trying to help you achieve your dreams. Part of that assistance is to make sure you don't lose contact with reality.
Hope this helps!
Notice the floppy man-tit peaking out from under his shirt, brutal. :-X
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No, Melvin, I never fail to be amused by you. Always the wannabe. You need all the help you can get.
Let's just say you are a project of mine and I am trying to help you achieve your dreams. Part of that assistance is to make sure you don't lose contact with reality.
Hope this helps!
Basile, just admit now that you wish you were Vissy every day.
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No, Melvin, I never fail to be amused by you. Always the wannabe. You need all the help you can get.
Let's just say you are a project of mine and I am trying to help you achieve your dreams. Part of that assistance is to make sure you don't lose contact with reality.
Hope this helps!
Cracks me up how he's cheesin w/ Colette & ? like he's a pimp. Don't you know they're laughing AT you, not WITH you? Surely, your not that dumb.
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I swear it's the focused look on that face that makes me laugh more than the body.
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Cracks me up how he's cheesin w/ Colette & ? like he's a pimp. Don't you know they're laughing AT you, not WITH you? Surely, your not that dumb.
Sorry but yes HE is that dumb
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I remember one of the old timers around here talking about some creepy dudes that would participate in bodybuilding contests just so they can stand next to their favorite sex objects. Some of them even had boners on stage.
I'm starting to think that this is the last missing piece in the Vince Goodrum puzzle.
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Vince you have now past 8000 hits and now heading to 9000 man you are bigger than any IFBB subject.How sad has BB become when this crap gets more hits than a IFBB Pro show.BB is in the toilet.
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The sad truth is that Vince G CSN MFT is more interesting than the pro contests. Goodrum delivers all the time. Well, he doesn't quite deliver and that is what is so amusing.
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Another SAD thing is they make about the same as any Pro who places outside the Top six NOTHING.Now that's a JOKE.
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Another SAD thing is they make about the same as any Pro who places outside the Top six NOTHING.Now that's a JOKE.
didnt they both get paid to show up and posedown? if so they made more than the pros outside the top six, thats an even bigger joke!
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didnt they both get paid to show up and posedown? if so they made more than the pros outside the top six, thats an even bigger joke!
Entertaining people has always paid more than professional bodybuilding. That's showbiz for ya......chuckle
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At what age did you realize you were GAY?
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The photo with Vince G CSN MFT with his arm around those two gals tells it all. He isn't holding one of the gals. The signs were there but we all believed he was getting married last fall. Yes, but to a bloke!
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Bump for updates.
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Bump for updates.
this would put him at around 4 weeks out right, love monkey? the abs should be showing by now.
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i believe vince promised munzer like conditioning this year
i think most of us would be impressed if he could just manage cutler like conditioning ;D
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As I said earlier, never gonna happen.
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bump for updates!
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Bump for updates
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Ok, here's an update. ::)
7 weeks out from the NGA Night of Champions, my first natural show.
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You still look like shit! No peaks on your biceps, lack size in your legs and chest.
You look like total shit, ass for breath!!
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You still look like shit! No peaks on your biceps, lack size in your legs and chest.
You look like total shit, ass for breath!!
Chuckle.....ok if you say so. ;D
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Your looking good Vince, keep it up bro. :)
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Your looking good Vince, keep it up bro. :)
Thanks. ALR has been a great help to me especially Troy. I'm very grateful to them for everything they've done. After the 2007 Olympia they gave me the Tri-Lean System and the WTF Pumped and when I saw the results they produced, I kept on with getting more stuff and well....here we are today.
ALR works and the pictures don't lie...especially mine and its nice to have some good pictures for a change. But the war isn't over yet, I got to dig deep and take it to the upper limit in conditioning because the folks at the NGA come in super-shredded. I'm likely not to win but I'm still going for the win. Can't accept going for second place...gotta always make a run for the No 1 spot.
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Thanks. ALR has been a great help to me especially Troy. I'm very grateful to them for everything they've done. After the 2007 Olympia they gave me the Tri-Lean System and the WTF Pumped and when I saw the results they produced, I kept on with getting more stuff and well....here we are today.
ALR works and the pictures don't lie...especially mine and its nice to have some good pictures for a change. But the war isn't over yet, I got to dig deep and take it to the upper limit in conditioning because the folks at the NGA come in super-shredded. I'm likely not to win but I'm still going for the win. Can't accept going for second place...gotta always make a run for the No 1 spot.
Why even say "I'm likely not to win." Screw that bro. I am in life to win everything and no matter how big or small.
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That simply isn't 7 weeks out condition.... you need legs and cuts.
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Ok, here's an update. ::)
7 weeks out from the NGA Night of Champions, my first natural show.
Good to see you competing naturally these days, Vince. Enough with those icky steroids already.
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I'd have never tought that I'd say this once, but honestly Cumdrum made progress.
Don't get me wrong, he still looks like shit. But he improved from horseshit to dogshit.
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where is he improved?
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I'd have never tought that I'd say this once, but honestly Cumdrum made progress.
Don't get me wrong, he still looks like shit. But he improved from horseshit to dogshit.
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where is he improved?
He's firmed up the flabby arms a bit and they look rounder and he's also tightened up his chest a little, while added a little width to his back.
Even though the last thing he should be thinking about is doing a show, he *does* now finally look a guy who works out a little. If he was smart, he would just focus on continuing to build muscle, but being Vince...
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That simply isn't 7 weeks out condition.... you need legs and cuts.
You may want to download the picture and zoom in because I do have cuts on my legs and some good ones to. I'm training them much harder now so they'll be present come show day
I was at the lake that day goofing around in the sun when I took those pictures, so I didn't bother pumping up or anything.
Tre, I don't compete from the living room, I do it onstage. That's the only way you get better. However I'm not resting on my improvements, I'm still at the gym training and dieting for this event
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You may want to download the picture and zoom in because I do have cuts on my legs and some good ones to. I'm training them much harder now so they'll be present come show day
I was at the lake that day goofing around in the sun when I took those pictures, so I didn't bother pumping up or anything.
Tre, I don't compete from the living room, I do it onstage. That's the only way you get better. However I'm not resting on my improvements, I'm still at the gym training and dieting for this event
You walk around in glittering thongs in public?
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You may want to download the picture and zoom in because I do have cuts on my legs and some good ones to. I'm training them much harder now so they'll be present come show day
Are you going to give the judges a magnifying glass/binoculars so they can see your cuts too? ::)
I was at the lake that day goofing around in the sun when I took those pictures, so I didn't bother pumping up or anything.
It wouldn't have made a shred of difference, you poor deluded c00n.
Tre, I don't compete from the living room, I do it onstage. That's the only way you get better. However I'm not resting on my improvements, I'm still at the gym training and dieting for this event
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Ok, here's an update. ::)
7 weeks out from the NGA Night of Champions, my first natural show.
Hmm, getting there Vince. Very very slowly, but I can see improvements from the previous years.
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Racist slants in every insinuation of the blicks
'TNM' is back - wha gwan rude bwoy, innit
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'TNM' is back - wha gwan rude bwoy, innit
Cool, Another faceless troll for me to IGNORE...... ;D
Could have came up with a better name other than the Nub Monster although its apparently refering to his appendages...... ;D
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definitely see improvements vince
keep working, you'll get there
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Here is the guy who won the Open last year...
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/6282/10212/d/newemmanueljacksonngapro1213640862.jpg)
Vince has better calves.
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IMO, you're way behind schedule. If you go on a very low calorie diet for the next 7 weeks, maybe you can make it to decent condition. In any case, best of luck!
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IMO, you're way behind schedule. If you go on a very low calorie diet for the next 7 weeks, maybe you can make it to decent condition. In any case, best of luck!
That has been his problem all along. If he = not just trying to be a goofbal with his competing, then he needs to learn. He starts way to late with his dieting every year. He needs 15 - 30 weeks more of dieting if he is every do achieve a decent condition.
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That has been his problem all along. If he = not just trying to be a goofbal with his competing, then he needs to learn. He starts way to late with his dieting every year. He needs 15 - 30 weeks more of dieting if he is every do achieve a decent condition.
But what I'm saying is that there's not enough muscle there for him to even start dieting yet without taking something.
Tre, I don't compete from the living room, I do it onstage. That's the only way you get better. However I'm not resting on my improvements, I'm still at the gym training and dieting for this event.
Don't compete yet. Since you're determined not to use anything, spend another 6-9 months putting on some muscle, which means HEAVY squats, not simply the get-through-the-workout-squats that many of us do.
My argument is that you HAVE made progress and that trying to get ready for a show is only going to hurt your progress at this point. You don't know how to eat (or don't have the discipline for it), so keep building muscle and worry about competing in 2010.
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But what I'm saying is that there's not enough muscle there for him to even start dieting yet without taking something.
That might be so (Debussey was only refering to his lack of conditioning). If anything, dieting of some flab before bulking again can be beneficial to his improvement.
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If your 7wks out,don't you think you should be dieting?? 7wks isn't enough time
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You know, come to think of it, that pic couldn't have been taken this past weekend. It's in either WNC, north Ga or South Carolina and the trees are a heck of a lot more green right now than that. Looks like Lake Hiawassee, but I could be mistaken. Maybe Vince is pulling a fast one and those pics were taken about a month ago.....not that it really matters one way or the other.
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You know, come to think of it, that pic couldn't have been taken this past weekend. It's in either WNC, north Ga or South Carolina and the trees are a heck of a lot more green right now than that. Looks like Lake Hiawassee, but I could be mistaken. Maybe Vince is pulling a fast one and those pics were taken about a month ago.....not that it really matters one way or the other.
You can't get shit past a GetBigger!
Collectively, we own the muthafuckin' globe, bitches!! ;D
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You can't get shit past a GetBigger!
Collectively, we own the muthafuckin' globe, bitches!! ;D
::)
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What do you guys figure he'll come in at? I figure somewhere in the 12-15% BF range, 180ish.
He has made improvements though.
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'TNM' is back - wha gwan rude bwoy, innit
Ya bludd I iz alzwayz ere, lurkin in d' shaduhz.....init!
Hmm, getting there Vince. Very very slowly, but I can see improvements from the previous years.
SLOW!?!? This sapps gains are slower than a slug with asthma! Fuck me, I could naturally gain more muscle in a couple of months...that's his progress for 2 years! Laughable....I bet ALR Ind. is inexplicably contented he is spouting puerile nonsense about their products, first class poster boy! ::)
Thanks. ALR has been a great help to me especially Troy. I'm very grateful to them for everything they've done. After the 2007 Olympia they gave me the Tri-Lean System and the WTF Pumped and when I saw the results they produced, I kept on with getting more stuff and well....here we are today.
Send me the link to purchase "WTF Pumped" - your results are unearthly, stupefying infact....i simply have to have some! ::)
Cool, Another faceless troll for me to IGNORE...... ;D
Could have came up with a better name other than the Nub Monster although its apparently refering to his appendages...... ;D
Vince, you sub 80 fuck wit.....I will refrain from using big words in this bit so you can understand it; faceless troll, i am not...a better BB than you could ever dream of being, oh yes! (not much of a compliment to myself there as most of the planet fall into the latter).
As for my name....way off the mark, so be a good slavey and climb up your tree and wait until master summons you.
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Vince, break the ALRI deal down for us.
There is NO WAY Scott has sponsored you, no fucking way.
You chocolate covered, fruity fantasist!
:D
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BUMP 4 Vince's explanation.........
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BUMP 4 Vince's explanation.........
lmao
great 7 weeks out conditioning :D
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I'll be getting my last two pieces of equipment in on Monday fully completing my home gym. Now, I'll be able to simply walk down the hall to train hard and heavy.
Here's some of the stuff I've armed with now.... ;D
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=394
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=384
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=376
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=393
http://www.caliberfitness.com/proshop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=272
Along with 150 cans of tuna and frozen veggies, I am more than ready to get things done right. Because of obvious reasons, I will not name the shows I will be in with the exception of a possible entrance into the OCB Midwest States in November but I thing is for sure....I will kick ass.
Just come in cut with abs and you will finally shut up the naysayers.
Failing to do that, I would not post pics....your call
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Ok, here's an update. ::)
7 weeks out from the NGA Night of Champions, my first natural show.
What would you estimate your BF% to be and how many lbs do you need to lose for the show?
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Showstoppa,
Can you imagine going to the lake with your kids and running into some creep wearing posing trunks?
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Somebody just kill me.
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Vince, break the ALRI deal down for us.
There is NO WAY Scott has sponsored you, no fucking way.
You chocolate covered, fruity fantasist!
:D
Cobbled together a reply yet Vince?
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Somebody just kill me.
Done! 8)
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But what I'm saying is that there's not enough muscle there for him to even start dieting yet without taking something.
Don't compete yet. Since you're determined not to use anything, spend another 6-9 months putting on some muscle, which means HEAVY squats, not simply the get-through-the-workout-squats that many of us do.
My argument is that you HAVE made progress and that trying to get ready for a show is only going to hurt your progress at this point. You don't know how to eat (or don't have the discipline for it), so keep building muscle and worry about competing in 2010.
Tre, you've never competed before and you really don't know what you're talking about especially with the so please stop being a backseat bodybuilder.
My only job is to be better than the last show and then move on to the next show. I'm only concerned with opinions from people who actually matter and honestly, Tre, you opinion doesn't matter to me because I don't like you and I'm disgusted with what you do for a living.
I'd suggest you take your own advice for yourself.
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Vince, break the ALRI deal down for us.
There is NO WAY Scott has sponsored you, no fucking way.
You chocolate covered, fruity fantasist!
:D
Who said anyone sponsored me??? I run my own fitness business so I don't need a sponsor whatsoever.
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Just come in cut with abs and you will finally shut up the naysayers.
Failing to do that, I would not post pics....your call
I could care less what these bozo's say. They have to live their life through others....its sad really.
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You can't get shit past a GetBigger!
Collectively, we own the muthafuckin' globe, bitches!! ;D
No you don't. Getbig is just a discussion board, nothing more.
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Tre's a fan of gay marriage, you should be friendlier. :)
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Tre, you've never competed before and you really don't know what you're talking about especially with the so please stop being a backseat bodybuilder.
My only job is to be better than the last show and then move on to the next show. I'm only concerned with opinions from people who actually matter and honestly, Tre, you opinion doesn't matter to me because I don't like you and I'm disgusted with what you do for a living.
I'd suggest you take your own advice for yourself.
What does Tre do for a living that infuriates you so Vince?
Who said anyone sponsored me??? I run my own fitness business so I don't need a sponsor whatsoever.
You spoke of a deal between you and ALRI.......explain?
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What does Tre do for a living that infuriates you so Vince?
Tre takes pictures of women. :)
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Tre's a fan of gay marriage, you should be friendlier. :)
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Tre, you've never competed before and you really don't know what you're talking about especially with the so please stop being a backseat bodybuilder.
My only job is to be better than the last show and then move on to the next show. I'm only concerned with opinions from people who actually matter and honestly, Tre, you opinion doesn't matter to me because I don't like you and I'm disgusted with what you do for a living.
I'd suggest you take your own advice for yourself.
I did take that advice, and that's how I lost all the weight, you ding-dong.
My opinion means everything to you, fuckstick, because your desire for my fatherly approval is third only to Onlyme and Shawn Ray, the two you idolize most.
Now quit wearing those fruity trunks to the lake, you freak.
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Tre takes pictures of women. :)
He makes a good point, I suppose. I'd hate me, too, if I were Vince! ;)
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What does Tre do for a living that infuriates you so Vince?
You spoke of a deal between you and ALRI.......explain?
LOL, Vince was full of it, he picked up some free fucking supps - read 'samples at an expo' - from ALRI, thats it.
re: Tre, Vince is trying to imply Tre is a dodgy schmoe, which to be fair, he is, but there is nothing wrong with that; this is Tre worshipping Sarah Dunlaps feet:
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I did take that advice, and that's how I lost all the weight, you ding-dong.
My opinion means everything to you, fuckstick, because your desire for my fatherly approval is third only to Onlyme and Shawn Ray, the two you idolize most.
Now quit wearing those fruity trunks to the lake, you freak.
Homos on the political forum convinced me gay marriage is a bad idea.
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Tre's a fan of gay marriage, you should be friendlier. :)
I really don't give a shit. He exploits women for a living which is the real issue. Most women bodybuilders and fitness competitors avoid him at the expos.
Tre has the smarts to do legitimate video and photography....but he doesn't
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I really don't give a shit. He exploits women for a living which is the real issue. Most women bodybuilders and fitness competitors avoid him at the expos.
Tre has the smarts to do legitimate video and photography....but he doesn't
I'm gonna respect Ron's rule on racist terms.
You were trying to sell niggas bee pollen two years ago!!! How are you going to complain about somebody exploiting people?
Tre photographs what he loves and gets paid. Don't be a hater just because he's found a way to make a good living and you're in a double-wide.
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LOL, Vince was full of it, he picked up some free fucking supps - read 'samples at an expo' - from ALRI, thats it.
re: Tre, Vince is trying to imply Tre is a dodgy schmoe, which to be fair, he is, but there is nothing wrong with that; this is Tre worshipping Sarah Dunlaps feet:
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Tre makes women's bodybuilding much harder to be taken seriously and his actions are detrimental to the sport. Lets not forget that he exploits them for money so he's definitely not doing the ones employed by him any favors especially with what he pays for them to humilate themselves on camera.
If you have to do that for a living then its pretty sad.
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Two words: Magic stick. :)
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LOL, Vince was full of it, he picked up some free fucking supps - read 'samples at an expo' - from ALRI, thats it.
re: Tre, Vince is trying to imply Tre is a dodgy schmoe, which to be fair, he is, but there is nothing wrong with that; this is Tre worshipping Sarah Dunlaps feet:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1zlq49l.jpg)
Classic photo!!
Damn, even then (2004?) you can see the receding hairline.
While the industry is filled with dodgy schmoes, I'm not one of them. Everyone who knows me is keenly aware of my perverse love of female muscle. With me, everything's on the table from pretty much the moment we meet...well, except for my crush fetish, that is. That comes later. ;)
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I did take that advice, and that's how I lost all the weight, you ding-dong.
My opinion means everything to you, fuckstick, because your desire for my fatherly approval is third only to Onlyme and Shawn Ray, the two you idolize most.
Now quit wearing those fruity trunks to the lake, you freak.
You're pretty delusional if you believe that crap. You may have lost weight but you still look like a scarecrow on crack.
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I really don't give a shit. He exploits women for a living which is the real issue. Most women bodybuilders and fitness competitors avoid him at the expos.
Tre has the smarts to do legitimate video and photography....but he doesn't
My job pays the bills, as I have no desire to be a middle-aged 'struggling artist'. More importantly, I have a job that I absolutely love going to each day and the fringe benefits are the best in the world, period.
The physique industry is all about exploitation. What I do is not all that different from any other powder pusher. My job is to help you get to where you want to go in exchange for a small fee. :)
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I'm gonna respect Ron's rule on racist terms.
You were trying to sell niggas bee pollen two years ago!!! How are you going to complain about somebody exploiting people?
Tre photographs what he loves and gets paid. Don't be a hater just because he's found a way to make a good living and you're in a double-wide.
LOL
QFT, but for the record, I have to remind myself not to pick on trailer park people too much, because some of them are some of my best customers. hehe
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LOL, Vince was full of it, he picked up some free fucking supps - read 'samples at an expo' - from ALRI, thats it.
re: Tre, Vince is trying to imply Tre is a dodgy schmoe, which to be fair, he is, but there is nothing wrong with that; this is Tre worshipping Sarah Dunlaps feet:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1zlq49l.jpg)
Vince is a prime candidate for the following IMO - Delusional girl Disorder (http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/delusional-disorder) I figured his "deal" would be little more than him receiving a one time reward for making a royal tit of himself in front of the BBing world.
There is fuck all wrong with that picture apart from Tre is in it and not me.....
I really don't give a shit. He exploits women for a living which is the real issue. Most women bodybuilders and fitness competitors avoid him at the expos.
Tre has the smarts to do legitimate video and photography....but he doesn't
Whereas you have to fight the women off with a big stick don't you Vinnie boi?!?
You speak of him exploiting women as if it's a bad thing? If they are game....then in the words of the immortal Eric Cartman; "what's the big fucking deal, it doesn't hurt anybody?"
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You're pretty delusional if you believe that crap. You may have lost weight but you still look like a scarecrow on crack.
Vince, in your own words you are an 'internet legend', you have done the rounds of large iron forums for fucking years, thus I have a challenge.
Please locate one - JUST ONE - thread on ANY FUCKING FORUM wherein the genral consensus was/is that you have a good physique.
Just one is all we need, one thread of [lets say] at least three pages of positive compliments.
After you have attempted to do this, feel free to come back and tell us just why - in your opinion - no such thread exists.
Not that you have just hanged yourself by your own petard or anything ;)
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Tre makes women's bodybuilding much harder to be taken seriously and his actions are detrimental to the sport. Lets not forget that he exploits them for money so he's definitely not doing the ones employed by him any favors especially with what he pays for them to humilate themselves on camera.
If you have to do that for a living then its pretty sad.
*I* have the power to affect how women's bodybuilding is viewed?? Didn't you just say that I was 'delusional'?
The only impact what I do has on bodybuilding is to pump money back into the sport via direct payments made to the women who train.
Do I earn my living this way? Yes, but I put far more back into bodybuilding than I take from it. The numbers speak for themselves and while I do not like to boast, this is a reality that I'm very proud of. The fact that I also get to have a little fun in the process is just a bonus.
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Classic photo!!
Damn, even then (2004?) you can see the receding hairline.
While the industry is filled with dodgy schmoes, I'm not one of them. Everyone who knows me is keenly aware of my perverse love of female muscle. With me, everything's on the table from pretty much the moment we meet...well, except for my crush fetish, that is. That comes later. ;)
Crush fetish?!!
You're definitely twisted, LOL! Even mofos growing up in the projects don't develop that shit when they get a little bit of money. :)
I don't believe Vince has father issues with you. It's probably sexual, LOL! He seemed to like you a lot before the lotion/moisturizer. :)
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My job pays the bills, as I have no desire to be a middle-aged 'struggling artist'. More importantly, I have a job that I absolutely love going to each day and the fringe benefits are the best in the world, period.
The physique industry is all about exploitation. What I do is not all that different from any other powder pusher. My job is to help you get to where you want to go in exchange for a small fee. :)
Tre, don't forget that I used to do the same thing you did...remember??? Having my porn site did make me a lot of money but it ultimately cost me a lot of respect I had at the time...even worse than when I did the 2004 Metrolina.
I smartened up and you should too. You may be making a lot of money now but you're costing your own self respect and you are ultimately messing up those women's lives. They have no chance of making a decent living when they are no longer bodybuilding or competing.
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Tre, don't forget that I used to do the same thing you did...remember??? Having my porn site did make me a lot of money but it ultimately cost me a lot of respect I had at the time...even worse than when I did the 2004 Metrolina.
I smartened up and you should too. You may be making a lot of money now but you're costing your own self respect and you are ultimately messing up those women's lives. They have no chance of making a decent living when they are no longer bodybuilding or competing.
You weren't making shit!!
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There is fuck all wrong with that picture apart from Tre is in it and not me.....
Whereas you have to fight the women off with a big stick don't you Vinnie boi?!?
You speak of him exploiting women as if it's a bad thing? If they are game....then in the words of the immortal Eric Cartman; "what's the big fucking deal, it doesn't hurt anybody?"
LOL! Thanks, man. Vince's allegation was laughable, at best. Again, I don't like to boast, but I do 'aight' in the women department...the notable exception being the one that I married.
One thing that differentiates me from a lot of the guys in this business is that I don't sell sunshine or rose-colored glasses. Even the young women get it straight from me. The industry is what it is and the earlier people know certain realities, the better off they'll be. I don't promise anything other than what I *know* I'm going to deliver, which is an honest day's pay for an honest day's work.
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Vince, in your own words you are an 'internet legend', you have done the rounds of large iron forums for fucking years, thus I have a challenge.
Please locate one - JUST ONE - thread on ANY FUCKING FORUM wherein the genral consensus was/is that you have a good physique.
Just one is all we need, one thread of [lets say] at least three pages of positive compliments.
After you have attempted to do this, feel free to come back and tell us just why - in your opinion - no such thread exists.
Not that you have just hanged yourself by your own petard or anything ;)
Stellar posting BB25! ;)
Vince if you can do this I will personally buy you some ALR Ind. supp's! Hows that for a deal you day dreaming, dirty skinned bastard? If you can find any thread where you have more positive than negative comments I shall uphold the afore mentioned deal....you have thicker skin than Jason Cutler if you do not take in some of the comments made by people on the various forums you frequent! Why can't you see what is before you in the cold light of day? I mean come on, is your house full of 'fun house' mirrors that make you look big when you quite clearly aint......or perhaps you have sight problems???
*I* have the power to affect how women's bodybuilding is viewed?? Didn't you just say that I was 'delusional'?
The only impact what I do has on bodybuilding is to pump money back into the sport via direct payments made to the women who train.
Do I earn my living this way? Yes, but I put far more back into bodybuilding than I take from it. The numbers speak for themselves and while I do not like to boast, this is a reality that I'm very proud of. The fact that I also get to have a little fun in the process is just a bonus.
Tre you were doing so well before you wrote the above post, please try harder...I realise it's hard for you, but try not to post such grammatical garbage, you lose credibility.
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Tre, don't forget that I used to do the same thing you did...remember??? Having my porn site did make me a lot of money but it ultimately cost me a lot of respect I had at the time...even worse than when I did the 2004 Metrolina.
Holy black dicks Batman! You had a porn site Vince? LOL
Is it still around? Did you star in any movies yourself.....judging from drkaje's accusation it was not all that successful?
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Tre you were doing so well before you wrote the above post, please try harder...I realise it's hard for you, but try not to post such grammatical garbage, you lose credibility.
I'm as honest as they come. You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone to argue that I'm not a straight shooter. Even the people who absolutely hate me or the things I say won't tell you I'm dishonest.
My activities or business ventures have very little - if anything - to do with the way bodybuilding is perceived, but they do put a lot of money back into the sport.
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Tre seems like a good guy who has a job that he likes. I don't get the hate? Oh my god, im a schmoe for Tre. ;D
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Crush fetish?!!
You're definitely twisted, LOL! Even mofos growing up in the projects don't develop that shit when they get a little bit of money. :)
I don't believe Vince has father issues with you. It's probably sexual, LOL! He seemed to like you a lot before the lotion/moisturizer. :)
LOL @ sexual! I know he's still pissed off that I led the campaign to get him kicked out of the Black race.
I grew up in a poor neighborhood, but was into some wicked shit, even then. But I wasn't the only one who liked wrestling the girls!
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I'm as honest as they come. You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone to argue that I'm not a straight shooter. Even the people who absolutely hate me or the things I say won't tell you I'm dishonest.
My activities or business ventures have very little - if anything - to do with the way bodybuilding is perceived, but they do put a lot of money back into the sport.
Tre the subject matter was not what i had a 'problem' with.....it was your piss poor grammar and syntax. LOL
You, as mass04 has just said, seem to be a straight up nigguh who pulls no punches/tells it as it is...................... take note Vince, dear boy! :)
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Tre seems like a good guy who has a job that he likes. I don't get the hate? Oh my god, im a schmoe for Tre. ;D
Join the cult!! ;D
j/k - I do appreciate your kind words.
At the end of the day, people care about being treated fairly and that's a very reasonable expectation...one which I attempt to deliver in all my interactions - whether in real life or written here on the internet - with people in this industry. And when I'm wrong, I own it.
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LOL @ sexual! I know he's still pissed off that I led the campaign to get him kicked out of the Black race.
I grew up in a poor neighborhood, but was into some wicked shit, even then. But I wasn't the only one who liked wrestling the girls!
Really, you don't think you're delusional or a hyprocrite???? Remember this
Your attempts to diminish the significance of the Ms. Olympia by relegating the finals of the 2005 event to Expo sideshow status stand as the most blatantly sexist actions in the history of the IFBB Olympia.
If you insist on pushing this anti-women's bodybuilding agenda, you will leave me no other choice than to call for a nationwide boycott of every single AMI title and your advertisers.
You have until 5pm PDT on August 1st, 2005, to correct this situation by reinstating the women's professional bodybuilding into either the Friday or Saturday evening programs at the 2005 Olympia, to be held in the Orleans Arena.
Kindest regards,
Tre' Scott
femflex.com
Although you are not fully to blame for the diminished status of women's bodybuilding, you certainly helped out with your site. Yet you have the audacity to write this letter????
Come on Tre, schmoe pimps can't be self-righteous.
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Tre, don't forget that I used to do the same thing you did...remember??? Having my porn site did make me a lot of money but it ultimately cost me a lot of respect I had at the time...even worse than when I did the 2004 Metrolina.
As Drkaje said, you didn't make shit and more importantly, no one respected you, you delusional nut. I'm not going to bust your balls for being unsuccessful in business, because anyone who's ever tried to run a business has experienced failure at some point.
And nothing could be worse than your Metrolina appearance...well, except for that debacle at the Arnold that had even the booth girls laughing at your trick ass.
I smartened up and you should too. You may be making a lot of money now but you're costing your own self respect and you are ultimately messing up those women's lives. They have no chance of making a decent living when they are no longer bodybuilding or competing.
My job is to provide supplemental - or primary - income so that they can live the lives they've chosen for themselves. With respect to certain activities, if a person is in or aspiring to a certain profession like TEACHING, I won't hesitate to speak on the caveats. Regardless of how benign I may consider an activity like schmoe wrestling (just an example), I do recognize that not everyone sees the world through the same set of eyes as I do.
It's complicated, I know, but the rules I follow do not apply to anyone else in the schmoe site business. We're all different.
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Tre the subject matter was not what i had a 'problem' with.....it was your piss poor grammar and syntax. LOL
You, as mass04 has just said, seem to be a straight up nigguh who pulls no punches/tells it as it is...................... take note Vince, dear boy! :)
LOL x2!
And you're right! :)
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Vince, in your own words you are an 'internet legend', you have done the rounds of large iron forums for fucking years, thus I have a challenge.
Please locate one - JUST ONE - thread on ANY FUCKING FORUM wherein the genral consensus was/is that you have a good physique.
Just one is all we need, one thread of [lets say] at least three pages of positive compliments.
After you have attempted to do this, feel free to come back and tell us just why - in your opinion - no such thread exists.
Not that you have just hanged yourself by your own petard or anything ;)
VINCE!!!
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Really, you don't think you're delusional or a hyprocrite???? Remember this
Your attempts to diminish the significance of the Ms. Olympia by relegating the finals of the 2005 event to Expo sideshow status stand as the most blatantly sexist actions in the history of the IFBB Olympia.
If you insist on pushing this anti-women's bodybuilding agenda, you will leave me no other choice than to call for a nationwide boycott of every single AMI title and your advertisers.
You have until 5pm PDT on August 1st, 2005, to correct this situation by reinstating the women's professional bodybuilding into either the Friday or Saturday evening programs at the 2005 Olympia, to be held in the Orleans Arena.
Kindest regards,
Tre' Scott
femflex.com
Although you are not fully to blame for the diminished status of women's bodybuilding, you certainly helped out with your site. Yet you have the audacity to write this letter????
Come on Tre, schmoe pimps can't be self-righteous.
Pretty badass, eh?
They refused to budge that year, but they listened to the fans and me the following year and each year since. :)
I'll accept that compromise.
I'm still passionate about bodybuilding, but I had a lot more fire back then.
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The problem in womens BB is not them being 'exploited' as you put it, it's the AAS abuse and their desire to look like Ronnie Coleman in a bra and thong! The femininity of womens BBing is out the window and has been for a very long time, women should look like women FFS!
The so called 'exploitation' is somewhat good for the sport, it tries to portray the she beasts in some sort of sexy, female light....making them look a little more appealing.
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As Drkaje said, you didn't make shit and more importantly, no one respected you, you delusional nut. I'm not going to bust your balls for being unsuccessful in business, because anyone who's ever tried to run a business has experienced failure at some point.
And nothing could be worse than your Metrolina appearance...well, except for that debacle at the Arnold that had even the booth girls laughing at your trick ass.
My job is to provide supplemental - or primary - income so that they can live the lives they've chosen for themselves. With respect to certain activities, if a person is in or aspiring to a certain profession like TEACHING, I won't hesitate to speak on the caveats. Regardless of how benign I may consider an activity like schmoe wrestling (just an example), I do recognize that not everyone sees the world through the same set of eyes as I do.
It's complicated, I know, but the rules I follow do not apply to anyone else in the schmoe site business. We're all different.
Don't give me that humanitarian bullshit, Tre. You run a site that perverts the image of which female bodybuilders and fitness competitors are viewed by the general public. You demean their true self-worth for your own self-interest and financial gain.
They won't be able to get a serious fitness job after their competitive careers because of all those embarrassing things you make them do for a pauper's salary.
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Vince, what's your take on carb and sodium manipulation close to a show? Do you have a specific protocol to come in dry?
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Vince, what's your take on carb and sodium manipulation close to a show? Do you have a specific protocol to come in dry?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Vince, what's your take on carb and sodium manipulation close to a show? Do you have a specific protocol to come in dry?
Pppppffffffffttttttttt! LMAO!
Yeah Vince spill the beans on your pre contest magic......and whilst your at it reply to BB25's posts you ignorant prick.
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A little off-topic, but:
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Showstoppa,
Can you imagine going to the lake with your kids and running into some creep wearing posing trunks?
You mean, besides me right? Thong and posing oil are mandatory! ;D
Seriously, notice there is NOBODY anywhere to be found on that lake? Doubt it's a coincidence.
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You mean, besides me right? Thong and posing oil are mandatory! ;D
Seriously, notice there is NOBODY anywhere to be found on that lake? Doubt it's a coincidence.
I just hope it's really posing oil and not lube, LOL!
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UPDATE!!!!!
1 Week out! :D
LOLZ ;D
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UPDATE!!!!!
1 Week out! :D
LOLZ ;D
wtf is wrong with him?
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When people tell him he looks like crap he melts down. ;D
LMAO I really want to know is this guy serious?
Every time showing up at 30% bodyfat and no muscle to speak of.
Can you believe that guy uses steroids? :-X
I believe he's the antichrist of bodybuilding if there is one.
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i swear he heas some probs man....
you look like absolute shit,like a big pile of shit my niggah
how in the hell can you think stepping on stage
WTF is wrong with you??
i would own you even without working out
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He just needs to lose the thin layer of water underneath the skin, it distorts his definition. Also a carb up will fill out those flat muscles in no time.
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He just needs to lose the thin layer of water underneath the skin, it distorts his definition. Also a carb up will fill out those flat muscles in no time.
Never fuck up the carb up!!!
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it must be the water from all the roids he takes
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UPDATE!!!!!
1 Week out! :D
LOLZ ;D
Wow.
No, dude. Just plain no.
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i swear he heas some probs man....
you look like absolute shit,like a big pile of shit my niggah
how in the hell can you think stepping on stage
WTF is wrong with you??
i would own you even without working out
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH!!!!!!! :D ;D ;D
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Never fuck up the carb up!!!
Yes but he's a veteran of the sport, I'm sure he knows how to get the muscles nice and full again without sacrificing too much of his definition and separation.
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UPDATE!!!!!
1 Week out! :D
LOLZ ;D
Wow, didn't know June 6th was a week away..... ;D But oh well.....everything's looking purdy and I'm keeping the carbs low until the Monday of the week of the show. That will give me sufficient time to fill the glycogen stores in the body and pump the muscle back up and come in with guns blazing.
My show is the same day as Arvilla's at the NGA Night Of Champions in Greensboro so if you're close by then show by and say hello.
BTW folks, I've used no steroids, no GH, no insulin, no diuretics, and no Species Nutrition ....so nice try folks....... ::)
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One thing is for sure, this "vince" guy never fucking ceases to amaze.
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One thing is for sure, this "vince" guy never fucking ceases to amaze.
QFT
he has some serious issues
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Hahahahaha it is too funny! ;D
One thing is for sure,
Vince Goo in the Bum, CSN(Cock Sucking Negro) MFT(Milky Fucking Tits)
is NOT an Aryan bastard with muscles ;D
he isn't even a black bastard with muscles
and i mean that's hard...these guys grow on rice and beans^^
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he isn't even a black bastard with muscles
and i mean that's hard...these guys grow on rice and beans^^
that's waaasist.
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God I wish ONLYME was not in time out right now.I would love to hear his opinion on Vinces Munzer like conditioning.I will bet anyone a $1000 Vince is goiong to be not have a vein on his body on that stage, and blame his carb loading.I over carb loaded, lol, I spilled over, lol.
Every friggin idiot I know who looks like shit always blames the carb loading.
How can you spill over your carbs when your at 10-12 % bodyfat on stage?
These are the guys that say, I was shredded 2 days ago, what happened?
What happened is in your home by yourself, in certain lighting everbody looks lean.But when your standing next to a guy who is really lean,or ripped what you really look like starts to show.
Anybody can have a good gym body.Heck right now I have a great gym body, but if you put me on stage right now I would look like dog shit.I see so many guys who look great in the gym, because there is no one to compare them to plus clothes hide flaws.On stage, is where you seperate the boys from the men.Vince I wish you luck, but I think you just didnt cut it this time.
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God I wish ONLYME was not in time out right now.I would love to hear his opinion on Vinces Munzer like conditioning.I will bet anyone a $1000 Vince is goiong to be not have a vein on his body on that stage, and blame his carb loading.I over carb loaded, lol, I spilled over, lol.
Every friggin idiot I know who looks like shit always blames the carb loading.
How can you spill over your carbs when your at 10-12 % bodyfat on stage?
These are the guys that say, I was shredded 2 days ago, what happened?
What happened is in your home by yourself, in certain lighting everbody looks lean.But when your standing next to a guy who is really lean,or ripped what you really look like starts to show.
Anybody can have a good gym body.Heck right now I have a great gym body, but if you put me on stage right now I would look like dog shit.I see so many guys who look great in the gym, because there is no one to compare them to plus clothes hide flaws.On stage, is where you seperate the boys from the men.Vince I wish you luck, but I think you just didnt cut it this time.
No shit sherlock.
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God I wish ONLYME was not in time out right now.I would love to hear his opinion on Vinces Munzer like conditioning.I will bet anyone a $1000 Vince is goiong to be not have a vein on his body on that stage, and blame his carb loading.I over carb loaded, lol, I spilled over, lol.
Every friggin idiot I know who looks like shit always blames the carb loading.
How can you spill over your carbs when your at 10-12 % bodyfat on stage?
These are the guys that say, I was shredded 2 days ago, what happened?
What happened is in your home by yourself, in certain lighting everbody looks lean.But when your standing next to a guy who is really lean,or ripped what you really look like starts to show.
Anybody can have a good gym body.Heck right now I have a great gym body, but if you put me on stage right now I would look like dog shit.I see so many guys who look great in the gym, because there is no one to compare them to plus clothes hide flaws.On stage, is where you seperate the boys from the men.Vince I wish you luck, but I think you just didnt cut it this time.
I believe I have cut it this time and come showtime, we shall see who's right and wrong.
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I believe I have cut it this time and come showtime, we shall see who's right and wrong.
Oh really Vince? Want to make a bet?
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Vince, who's your coach?
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Vince, who's your coach?
A comedian.
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I believe I have cut it this time and come showtime, we shall see who's right and wrong.
You have horrible genetics - I hope you are doing the exact opposite of whatever you've done in the past for contest preparation.
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Vince, who's your coach?
Better question - who is your therapist?
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Better question - who is your therapist?
So it's not you then?
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So it's not you then?
LOL, good call!
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/o9hc9h.jpg)
Say hello to onlyme for me will ya?
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Wow, didn't know June 6th was a week away..... ;D But oh well.....everything's looking purdy and I'm keeping the carbs low until the Monday of the week of the show. That will give me sufficient time to fill the glycogen stores in the body and pump the muscle back up and come in with guns blazing.
My show is the same day as Arvilla's at the NGA Night Of Champions in Greensboro so if you're close by then show by and say hello.
BTW folks, I've used no steroids, no GH, no insulin, no diuretics, and no Species Nutrition ....so nice try folks....... ::)
Did you use any weights?
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LOL, good call!
;D
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Wow, didn't know June 6th was a week away..... ;D But oh well.....everything's looking purdy and I'm keeping the carbs low until the Monday of the week of the show. That will give me sufficient time to fill the glycogen stores in the body and pump the muscle back up and come in with guns blazing.
My show is the same day as Arvilla's at the NGA Night Of Champions in Greensboro so if you're close by then show by and say hello.
BTW folks, I've used no steroids, no GH, no insulin, no diuretics, and no Species Nutrition ....so nice try folks....... ::)
you dont say ::) must be all bee pollen
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you dont say ::) must be all bee pollen
haha as if someone would think that
i think he doesn't even work out
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haha as if someone would think that
i think he doesn't even work out
only part of his body that gets worked out is his asshole
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only part of his body that gets worked out is his asshole
And the jaw. His eyes take a beating too at the weekly bukkake parties.
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And the jaw. His eyes take a beating too at the weekly bukkake parties.
thats why he needs glasses ;D
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Eyesight 20/vince see's this....
(http://www.ifbb.com/newsletter/images/33/illnew04-4.jpg)
the rest of the world see's this...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=322255;image)
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Not even making fun of him.
Just no.
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Are you saying Vince is a disgrace to all black bastards with muscles?
Muscles? What muscles?
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Are you saying Vince is a disgrace to all black bastards with muscles?
Tre said they kicked vince out of the blacks awhile back...
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Muscles? What muscles?
exactly bro
btw why the fuck does AXA post under another name=?
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Just saying 'no'.
The guy obviously has issues and I can't derive pleasure from teasing or anything else associated with his pics. Maybe he should get some serious workout and nutrition guidance or at the very least have more realistic fitness goals.
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I just knew, this thread would have what it takes to go the distance.
Misery bump.
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It's 2 weeks until he's slated to step onstage.
His conditioning is terrible, and getbig just let him know it.
What will be his reason for pulling out of this show?
Top three guesses:
1) Faked injury
2) "Sponsor" asked him to hold off due to "politics"
3) Staged drama with another competitor involving crime drama, in which Vince will find out who else is competing, create some mess, and claim he was banned as a result.
Get on record now. What reason will Vince give for skipping this show?
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It's all about the alarm clock or the 1994 Ford Festiva failing to crank.... ;D
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What show is Vince doing? ???
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Sounds like Mr Novice Rhode Island?
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Experts say he's actually 6 weeks out in condition.
Was hiding the pics, which means he's seriously concerned about opinions here.
Tonight he's thinking about how he can break it to Vissy that maybe he's not ready for this show.
There is no shame in not being in shape.
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"I was late for prejudging, because I got lost in a watermelon patch."
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More than 20 weeks out
What about 20 years out? ;D
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Vince, next time you start snapping pic of yourself do you think you can clean up a bit. Also, you look like you have not gained any muscle although you do look leaner, I don't think that will win any show.
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Looking pretty shredded Vince.
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I bet his boyfriend dumps him for a fat mexican dude.
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I see Vince coming in third out of 3 guys and getting a trophy that he will rub in our faces.
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I bet his boyfriend dumps him for a fat mexican dude.
a fat mexican will probably place higher in the contest than Turdrum will ;D
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a fat mexican will probably place higher in the contest than Turdrum will ;D
Yes the immigrant would carry more quality mass.
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he misses his peak.
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Yes the immigrant would carry more quality mass.
would have done more cardio since he had to make a dash across the border
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Vince knows he will be humiliated for the boards.
He will back out of this show. He will take pics by the lake in glittery thongs, but when the show arrives he will be full of excuses.
This will be like all the other years. He does it every time.
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"Just bought another business which has kept me out of the gym"
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"had to play domino with my bros"
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I cant wait to see Vince's Comp pictures and pro bodybuilding type excuses why he placed where he did.
i feel the following will be this years excuses....
-he got confused about 'shitloading" and ate cheeseburgers and ice cream for the entire 12 weeks then ate clean the last 24 hours
-he got a tainted batch of bee pollen which mircuolously made him hold 30lbs of water and ate all his muscle
-his cell tech didnt arrive on time
-he forgot his posing trunks in the hamper at the shelter he lives in so he had to stop by K-Mart and pick up some fruit of the looms to wear on stage
-a supplement company is offering him a contract and will pay him for the rights to use his contest photos as the before pics so he had to stop training and dieting 2 weeks out
-his Tony Little Ecliptical and chuck Norris total Gym broke a month out so he couldnt train or do cardio
-he really believed that box of marshmallow scmores nutritional label that said 2 "net carbs" grams per serving.
-his trainer fucked up
-his nutritionist fucked up
-his cousin broke up with him and left him for another woman
-the judges were racist
-he wasnt managed by JMP
-he got a bogus batch of steroids...oops he is natural
-he got pulled over by the cops for speeding on the way to the show doing 140 miles per hour in his Saturn and didnt make it to the show on time to properly pump and oil up
-they saw his nipples and mistakenly entered him into the figure class
- we are all haters and he will show us next time
-someone spiked his chicken and veggies for donuts and beer
and last but not least
-he most likely overslept as a result of all the above
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Melvin is looking more defined. Definite improvement from Vince G CSN MFT PHD. We await his contest condition and three rows of abs.
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Looks like he's still about 15% BF. What does everyone else think? Serious opinions on his BF%.
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Looks like he's still about 15% BF. What does everyone else think? Serious opinions on his BF%.
15% sounds about right.
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Looks like he's still about 15% BF. What does everyone else think? Serious opinions on his BF%.
id say he is more like 12%, but it depends on if he is holding fat on his thighs and back
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id say he is more like 12%, but it depends on if he is holding fat on his thighs and back
LOL
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15% sounds about right.
yes. 15-16%.
In other words: 20 weeks out.id say he is more like 12%, but it depends on if he is holding fat on his thighs and back
That is not 12%.
And Vince is a moron. After years of competing, he has still not learned to start dieting early enough. Once again he will be a tremendous failure.
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That is not 12%.
to have abs defined like this is pretty lean. personally i store most of my fat on my lower stomach love handle region so if my midsection looked like this i would be 10-12% bf.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=322457)
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Looks like he's still about 15% BF. What does everyone else think? Serious opinions on his BF%.
Agree, either way thats the leanest Vince has ever looked in any of the pics that have been posted of him on this site so Ill give him props on that.. He needs to add alot more muscle before getting on stage though , just my opinion Vince.
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to have abs defined like this is pretty lean. personally i store most of my fat on my lower stomach love handle region so if my midsection looked like this i would be 10-12% bf.
Abs alone don't mean much. There are people who have abs at 20%.
He is not 12% in this shot.
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to have abs defined like this is pretty lean. personally i store most of my fat on my lower stomach love handle region so if my midsection looked like this i would be 10-12% bf.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=322457)
Stil not 12%. 15-16. His legs looks like playdough.
Just like everything else you talk about, you fail to see details in relations to other details. ;D
And his home looks like it smells as bad as he does :-X
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God i'm envious of his tan
btw, I'M NOT JOKING
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Stil not 12%. 15-16. His legs looks like playdough.
Just like everything else you talk about, you fail to see details in relations to other details. ;D
And his home looks like it smells as bad as he does :-X
Debussey laying down the smack as usual
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Stil not 12%. 15-16. His legs looks like playdough.
Just like everything else you talk about, you fail to see details in relations to other details. ;D
And his home looks like it smells as bad as he does :-X
your a bitch
Abs alone don't mean much. There are people who have abs at 20%.
true.
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wow congrats Vince!
keep it up
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your a bitch
Why. Do you have problems accepting a reasonable argument and criticism towards your reasoning process? Do you fail to remain rational when faced with criticism that makes you question your reasoning powers, which in turn makes you reason like your ghetto friends want to inflict emotional pain on the opposition in the argument?
What you just did is the hallmark of an immature person. You need to grow up.
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Vince looks pretty good, he has decent structure and isn't as far away from the required condition that a lot of you think, give it 3-5 weeks of very hard dieting and it could be doable. Just think the shoulders let him down.
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wow congrats Vince!
keep it up
yes congrats...
.....you took a self pic with something other than a camera phone
...you must be well off financially
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Vince looks pretty good, he has decent structure and isn't as far away from the required condition that a lot of you think, give it 3-5 weeks of very hard dieting and it could be doable. Just think the shoulders let him down.
3-5 weeks? hahaha! What are you smoking? The guy is a natural, and won't be anywhere near good conditioning for months ;D
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Vince looks pretty good, he has decent structure and isn't as far away from the required condition that a lot of you think, give it 3-5 weeks of very hard dieting and it could be doable. Just think the shoulders let him down.
maybe if he goes on a starvation diet.
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i know it's popular to hate on vince, but that's probably the best he's ever looked and a hell of a lot better than a lot of the people hating on him.
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3-5 weeks? hahaha! What are you smoking? The guy is a natural, and won't be anywhere near good conditioning for months ;D
i beg to differ
if he sleeps with a sauna suit on,wakes up, runs (all while still wearing said suit) then repeating that for like a week, he will be shrededd
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Why. Do you have problems accepting a reasonable argument and criticism towards your reasoning process? Do you fail to remain rational when faced with criticism that makes you question your reasoning powers, which in turn makes you reason like your ghetto friends want to inflict emotional pain on the opposition in the argument?
What you just did is the hallmark of an immature person. You need to grow up.
or i just felt like calling you a bitch and not debating about it because i thought you would understand that i understood where you were coming from and was simply giving you a lame retort in order to make you know i did read your comment and thought it was amusing but didnt care to defend my thinking
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maybe if he goes on a starvation diet.
No.
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3-5 weeks? hahaha! What are you smoking? The guy is a natural, and won't be anywhere near good conditioning for months ;D
You can see seratus and the tie-ins to the abs and he has decent separation in the chest and arms. You're telling me he couldn't lose 15 pounds in 5 weeks from that kind of condition if he really wanted to?
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Looks like he's still about 15% BF. What does everyone else think? Serious opinions on his BF%.
Looks to be around 15-17%, but everything around 13-18% looks about the same.
His legs dont look like they have any seperation in them, and his abs are just starting to come through.
So 15% may be giving him a bit, but either way he's FAR from stage ready. About a good 12 weeks out.
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i know it's popular to hate on vince, but that's probably the best he's ever looked and a hell of a lot better than a lot of the people hating on him.
I agree but his coach should be shot for not telling him how far behind he actually is
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or i just felt like calling you a bitch and not debating about it because i thought you would understand that i understood where you were coming from and was simply giving you a lame retort in order to make you know i did read your comment and thought it was amusing but didnt care to defend my thinking
Your goal for your communication and the actual message conveyed was not in harmony.
You immature drug abusing criminal.
8)
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Why. Do you have problems accepting a reasonable argument and criticism towards your reasoning process? Do you fail to remain rational when faced with criticism that makes you question your reasoning powers, which in turn makes you reason like your ghetto friends want to inflict emotional pain on the opposition in the argument?
What you just did is the hallmark of an immature person. You need to grow up.
LMAO, Debuggery being a vicious bastard.
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No.
You're right, I take that back. ;D
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Your goal for your communication and the actual message conveyed was not in harmony.
You immature drug abusing criminal.
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yes well maybe your abilities to read into what i trying to convey was what was lacking ?
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i know it's popular to hate on vince, but that's probably the best he's ever looked and a hell of a lot better than a lot of the people hating on him.
Agree. Looks about 12-14%. Maybe he won't Stepin Fechit fall asleep for his carb-up this time.
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definitely the leanest vince has been, still some work to do though
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Where's TA when you need him to chime in.
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You can see seratus and the tie-ins to the abs and he has decent separation in the chest and arms. You're telling me he couldn't lose 15 pounds in 5 weeks from that kind of condition if he really wanted to?
He is 15-16% BF there.
At 190 pounds and 16% BF, he would need to lose 18 pounds and not a single gram of lean body mass in order to hit around 7% BF which would be approaching something resembling good conditioning for such a contest.
15 pounds would put him around 9%, not nearly enough.
With these calculations in mind, do you truly think that a natural can lose 3+ pounds of fat per week (especially after having dieted for some time) without muscle loss, especially when the BF gets low and the diet has been ongoing for some time? What are you smoking? ::)
You initially even said 3-5 weeks! 6 pounds of ONLY fatloss per week?
You = clueless. Fucking moron ;D
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yes well maybe your abilities to read into what i trying to convey was what was lacking ?
Or maybe you're just an idiot that thinks everybody comprehends information in the way people do in the ghetto?
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He is 15-16% BF there.
At 190 pounds and 16% BF, he would need to lose 18 pounds and not a single gram of lean body mass in order to hit around 7% BF which would be approaching something resembling good conditioning for such a contest.
15 pounds would put him around 9%, not nearly enough.
With these calculations in mind, do you truly think that a natural can lose 3+ pounds of fat per week (especially after having dieted for some time) without muscle loss, especially when the BF gets low and the diet has been ongoing for some time? What are you smoking? ::)
You initially even said 3-5 weeks! 6 pounds of ONLY fatloss per week?
You = clueless. Fucking moron ;D
Calm down. Who died and made you expert? These are only suggestions, not gospel truths.
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Or maybe you're just an idiot that thinks everybody comprehends information in the way people do in the ghetto?
Are you saying tdongz should post a "hukt on fonex" manuel with each of his posts?
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Calm down. Who died and made you expert? These are only suggestions, not gospel truths.
Your suggestions = so lost that it needed commenting.
The math don't not lie, and no amount of industry folklore = gonna make your "suggestions delusional horseshit" correct.
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He ain't a sad bloated blob, like he normally is, BUT PEOPLE... he ain't entering a "I'm not a pathetic tub of shit" contest, He's entering a "bodybuilding contest". He looks rancid, runtish & terrible.
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Are you saying tdongz should post a "hukt on fonex" manuel with each of his posts?
Yes!
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he should have used Debussey as his coach, he would have been bitch slapped back to reality in no time
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he should have used Debussey as his coach, he would have been bitch slapped back to reality in no time
Debussey knows nothing. >:(
Duck hijacked the account again without writing so >:(
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Debussey = Dong Uzi
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Debussey = Dong Uzi = DickPussey = SpermLucy = DickInThePussey = GaryUzi = GaryDebussey = Gary Busey
:o
:o
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Your suggestions = so lost that it needed commenting.
The math don't not lie, and no amount of industry folklore = gonna make your "suggestions delusional horseshit" correct.
Well maybe Vince would get in shape and shock us all if we actually keep telling him he's nowhere near ::). Or, he might feel inspired by some positive comments and stick to a strict diet.
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Well maybe Vince would get in shape and shock us all if we actually keep telling him he's nowhere near ::). Or, he might feel inspired by some positive comments and stick to a strict diet.
Do you think sugahcoating the reality and feeding his delusions = gonna help him?
Or do you think that giving him a reality check that could (if he had the ability to learn from his mistakes, which he does not) help him rectify his flawed strategies in the future would be more beneficial?
::)
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Or maybe you're just an idiot that thinks everybody comprehends information in the way people do in the ghetto?
good looking people who know about recent pop culture and stuff like that..
didnt you just say resorting to attacks like this is a sure sign of being immature, but then what do you do
or are you back to playing the way i was playing?
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Do you think sugahcoating the reality and feeding his delusions = gonna help him?
Or do you think that giving him a reality check that could (if he had the ability to learn from his mistakes, which he does not) help him rectify his flawed strategies in the future would be more beneficial?
::)
Who knows. Each to their own. Only Vince can give us that answer.
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good looking people who know about recent pop culture and stuff like that..
didnt you just say resorting to attacks like this is a sure sign of being immature, but then what do you do
or are you back to playing the way i was playing?
You don't have good genetics.
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good looking people who know about recent pop culture and stuff like that..
didnt you just say resorting to attacks like this is a sure sign of being immature, but then what do you do
or are you back to playing the way i was playing?
Who cares about the stupid "pop culture" in the US. It = full of morons trying to be all "gangsta". Hardly something to be a part of.
Debussey had to play it down to "your level" you retarded little mongoloid.
;) :-* 8) ;)
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Have a look at the Vince G transformation. Reminds me of what happened to Arvilla and True Adonis. To get in shape for contests most blokes end up looking rather small. That is the price Goodrum has to pay to salvage some respect from the flotsam on Getbig.
Look at how long Goodrum's biceps are. Those long biceps must be difficult to make grow.
Maybe someone living near Goodrum can send him a laundry basket for his room. Is that a toilet roll in the photo?
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Who knows. Each to their own. Only Vince can give us that answer.
In all seriousness, you = correct. Each to their own.
His problems are not that he ain't on a strict diet, his problem is that he walks around in a perpetual state of flabbyness that makes him require about 20-30 more weeks of dieting before a competition than he put in every time.
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good looking people who know about recent pop culture and stuff like that..
didnt you just say resorting to attacks like this is a sure sign of being immature, but then what do you do
or are you back to playing the way i was playing?
Tbombz what say you? How long do you think it would take Vince to get into the 6-8 percent range?
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Have a look at the Vince G transformation. Reminds me of what happened to Arvilla and True Adonis. To get in shape for contests most blokes end up looking rather small. That is the price Goodrum has to pay to salvage some respect from the flotsam on Getbig.
Look at how long Goodrum's biceps are. Those long biceps must be difficult to make grow.
Maybe someone living near Goodrum can send him a laundry basket for his room. Is that a toilet roll in the photo?
Dear Vince: How = your fat exwife Roz doing? Are you still sleeping in a warehouse and stalking kids in your van during the daytime?
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Let's look at the bright side: if he gets down a few pounds more, it's a good starting point for a contest diet.
He just needs to choose a different contest.
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Let's look at the bright side: if he gets down a few pounds more, it's a good starting point for a contest diet.
He just needs to choose a different contest.
Badabing!
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Let's look at the bright side: if he gets down a few pounds more, it's a good starting point for a contest diet.
He just needs to choose a different contest.
I want to know who his diet adviser is. He claims he "got help" this time around.
Earlier in this thread I predicted he wouldn't dip below 15% and looks like I was right.
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I want to know who his diet adviser is. He claims he "got help" this time around.
Earlier in this thread I predicted he wouldn't dip below 15% and looks like I was right.
ROFL, "need help"? Who the hell = so dumb that they can't estimate how many pounds to lose to get in shape and the time it will take to get there after being in this industry for years? ;D
Dear Vince: Why pay when you could have done the following stuff?:
You are 200 pounds at 20% BF. This turns out to be: 160 pounds of lean bodymass and 40 pounds of flab.
In a perfect world where no muscle is lost, you need to get down to 172 pounds in order to reach about 7% BF (12 pounds of fat, 160 pounds of LBM for a total of 172 pounds of Bodyweight). Total weightloss = 28 pounds.
Since you will lose some muscle++, you would need lose more than that due to some muscle loss ect, but let's keep it simple just for you.
A good rate of weightloss for you would be about 1 pound per week, 1.2 if pushing it, but nothing more.
This would mean about 23 - 28 weeks of dieting, losing 1 - 1.2 pounds per week.
Do you really need to "get help" to understand this? The help you got could not understand much if they had you at 16% BF this close before the contest. You will never make it.
Edit: Gross math error in this post. Edited for accuracy.
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Debussey= The Dream Crusher. ;D
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ROFL, "need help"? Who the hell = so dumb that they can't estimate how many pounds to lose to get in shape and the time it will take to get there after being in this industry for years? ;D
Dear Vince: Why pay when you could have done the following stuff?:
You are 200 pounds at 20% BF. This turns out to be: 160 pounds of lean bodymass and 40 pounds of flab.
In a perfect world where no muscle is lost, you need to get down to 172 pounds in order to reach about 7% BF (12 pounds of fat, 160 pounds of LBM for a total of 172 pounds of Bodyweight). Total weightloss = 38 pounds.
Since you will lose some muscle++, you would need lose more than that due to some muscle loss ect, but let's keep it simple just for you.
A good rate of weightloss for you would be about 1 pound per week, 1.2 if pushing it, but nothing more.
This would mean about 32 - 38 weeks of dieting, losing 1 - 1.2 pounds per week.
Do you really need to "get help" to understand this? The help you got could not understand much if they had you at 16% BF this close before the contest. You will never make it.
Jeg elsker deg!
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Debussey= The Dream Crusher. ;D
Debussey = the destroyer of delusions and mental glass houses.
Debussey = the dream enabler through proper analysis of what needs to be done in order to obtain a goal.
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Debussey = the destroyer of delusions and mental glass houses.
Debussey = the dream enabler through proper analysis of what needs to be done in order to obtain a goal.
Debussey=major force for change in Deicide's life
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Debussey = the destroyer of delusions and mental glass houses.
Debussey = the dream enabler through proper analysis of what needs to be done in order to obtain a goal.
LOL. Well, good criticism, D, but Vince is one of a few people on this board who is so dumb he believes he's smart, so you're just wasting your time. ;)
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Debussey=major force for change in Deicide's life
Debussey = honored by your words. You = a good guy. :)
LOL. Well, good criticism, D, but Vince is one of a few people on this board who is so dumb he believes he's smart, so you're just wasting your time. ;)
Debussey's time = definitely wasted on Goodbum, you can't teach an old or utterly retarded dog new tricks.
But teh funny of writing these posts make it worth it. ;D
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Debussey = the destroyer of delusions and mental glass houses.
Debussey = the dream enabler through proper analysis of what needs to be done in order to obtain a goal.
In reality the dieting thing is so simple, it's boring as hell.
Once you get rid of the delusions that is.
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In reality the dieting thing is so simple, it's boring as hell.
Once you get rid of the delusions that is.
Exactly.
The delusions = strong in Goodrum.
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In reality the dieting thing is so simple, it's boring as hell.
Once you get rid of the delusions that is.
One thing is tough...you need insane amounts of patience.
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One thing is tough...you need insane amounts of patience.
That = true for any pursuit of excellence.
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That = true for any pursuit of excellence.
Although patience always refers to the expectation of a certain outcome at a certain time.
The better approach is to just do the work and enjoy it without expecting anything.
Zero patience is required for that.
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One thing is tough...you need insane amounts of patience.
Yes. And will! My problem is that I get so side-tracked by life's pleasures. ;D
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Although patience always refers to the expectation of a certain outcome at a certain time.
The better approach is to just do the work and enjoy it without expecting anything.
Zero patience is required for that.
Debussey disagrees.
The quality of your practice/work in most areas = influenced by your emotional state, which in turn = influenced by your expectations. If you utilize things like creative visualization techniques to program your mind into expecting the outcome you desire, your emotional state will most likely lead to more focus and better practice in general.
Of course, different folks, different strokes, but still. Useful obsession = most often easier when fueled by the expectation of an outcome.
And the dieting process itself does not need much thinking. You just eat the foods planned out and nothing more. But in other areas where the quality of practice really matters, look above.
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Have a look at the Vince G transformation. Reminds me of what happened to Arvilla and True Adonis. To get in shape for contests most blokes end up looking rather small. That is the price Goodrum has to pay to salvage some respect from the flotsam on Getbig.
Look at how long Goodrum's biceps are. Those long biceps must be difficult to make grow.
Maybe someone living near Goodrum can send him a laundry basket for his room. Is that a toilet roll in the photo?
Why would I want respect from Getbig trolls for???? Most of the time I don't even listen to them as they act like immature children which they problably are. You on the other hand go the other way as seeing a senile old man who tries to fit in with the immature children and end up getting ridiculed yourself.
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Although patience always refers to the expectation of a certain outcome at a certain time.
The better approach is to just do the work and enjoy it without expecting anything.
Zero patience is required for that.
You are a master.
On getbig there are: The Threefold Masters, Debussey, Wavelength, Dr. Chimps
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Goodrum = black man with white guy genetics
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Why would I want respect from Getbig trolls for???? Most of the time I don't even listen to them as they act like immature children which they problably are. You on the other hand go the other way as seeing a senile old man who tries to fit in with the immature children and end up getting ridiculed yourself.
That = a problem for you. If you had listened to some people like Wavelength (who knows more about dieting than you), you could actually have gotten yourself into decent shape.
And a sign of immaturity is to make the same mistake over and over again and believing you'll get a different result. A great man once called that insanity as well :D (so you calling people immature = quite an interesting thing!)
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You are a master.
On getbig there are: The Threefold Masters, Debussey, Wavelength, Dr. Chimps
It's a lower-case 'd' as I got my degree from the same Ukrainian diploma mill as that racist POS David Duke. ;D
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Debussey disagrees.
The quality of your practice/work in most areas = influenced by your emotional state, which in turn = influenced by your expectations. If you utilize things like creative visualization techniques to program your mind into expecting the outcome you desire, your emotional state will most likely lead to more focus and better practice in general.
Of course, different folks, different strokes, but still. Useful obsession = most often easier when fueled by the expectation of an outcome.
Useful obsession = enthusiasm for what is happening at this moment.
I don't believe in "programming" the mind, it's not a computer.
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ROFL, "need help"? Who the hell = so dumb that they can't estimate how many pounds to lose to get in shape and the time it will take to get there after being in this industry for years? ;D
Dear Vince: Why pay when you could have done the following stuff?:
You are 200 pounds at 20% BF. This turns out to be: 160 pounds of lean bodymass and 40 pounds of flab.
In a perfect world where no muscle is lost, you need to get down to 172 pounds in order to reach about 7% BF (12 pounds of fat, 160 pounds of LBM for a total of 172 pounds of Bodyweight). Total weightloss = 38 pounds.
Since you will lose some muscle++, you would need lose more than that due to some muscle loss ect, but let's keep it simple just for you.
A good rate of weightloss for you would be about 1 pound per week, 1.2 if pushing it, but nothing more.
This would mean about 32 - 38 weeks of dieting, losing 1 - 1.2 pounds per week.
Do you really need to "get help" to understand this? The help you got could not understand much if they had you at 16% BF this close before the contest. You will never make it.
Keep bodybuilding from a calculator. If you ever work up the guts to ever show your picture or even compete which I'd doubt, I'll be interested to see how well you do...... ::)
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Goodrum = black man with white guy genetics
and genetics=everything
and Vince=shit genetics=shit everything
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Keep bodybuilding from a calculator. If you ever work up the guts to ever show your picture or even compete which I'd doubt, I'll be interested to see how well you do...... ::)
Debussey is one of the threefold masters; you should heed his words.
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Useful obsession = enthusiasm for what is happening at this moment.
I don't believe in "programming" the mind, it's not a computer.
Brutal conflict of opinion between two of the threefold masters! :o
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Keep bodybuilding from a calculator. If you ever work up the guts to ever show your picture or even compete which I'd doubt, I'll be interested to see how well you do...... ::)
Who is your diet adviser?
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Keep bodybuilding from a calculator.
Are you stupid or something? The best way to fail in dieting is to ignore the numbers ::) You have failed again and again with your approach (which mimics your attitude). You truly are a moron and you will fail once again...
Fatloss = a numbers game.
Now, please tell us why dieting to get shredded can't be reduced to the numbers? Do you think there exists magical ways for you to get in shape in 10 weeks or something? :D
Useful obsession = enthusiasm for what is happening at this moment.
I don't believe in "programming" the mind, it's not a computer.
Debussey disagrees with you. Research in psychology suggests that your actions = controlled by subconscious expectations/beliefs which can be influenced by stuff like creative visualization ("programming"). You can change your behavioural patterns through such techniques, and thereby optimize your performance.
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You are 200 pounds at 20% BF. This turns out to be: 160 pounds of lean bodymass and 40 pounds of flab.
In a perfect world where no muscle is lost, you need to get down to 172 pounds in order to reach about 7% BF (12 pounds of fat, 160 pounds of LBM for a total of 172 pounds of Bodyweight). Total weightloss = 38 pounds.
Debussey = Not great at maths.
;D
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Debussey = Not great at maths.
;D
Oops, must be the 52IQ kicking in again :'(
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Debussey = Not great at maths.
;D
Not great at anything. Just another troll under the bridge...afraid to show his face..... ;D
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Debussey disagrees with you. Research in psychology suggests that your actions = controlled by subconscious expectations/beliefs which can be influenced by stuff like creative visualization ("programming"). You can change your behavioural patterns through such techniques, and thereby optimize your performance.
That's a topic for another thread.
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Not great at anything. Just another troll under the bridge...afraid to show his face..... ;D
Check out Debussey's training thread here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=206513.0
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That's a topic for another thread.
(http://www.kenlauher.com/Portals/40296/images%5C/oprah_eckhart.jpg)
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Debussey = Not great at maths.
;D
Typo. Actually Debussey=best mathematician on getbig
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Vince you do look leaner but I do not see any gains in muscle mass, just my 02.
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(http://www.kenlauher.com/Portals/40296/images%5C/oprah_eckhart.jpg)
I think that dude lives out West in British Columbia.
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Not great at anything. Just another troll under the bridge...afraid to show his face..... ;D
While you do look better than any of your previous pics, you still don't look on course to be on stage in a matter of weeks. It's hard to tell in the pic, but you don't look to be showing much definition in your legs yet, and you've still got a layer of fat covering the abs. Also, your shoulders need some serious work.
If you're aiming to achieve a personal best, to show yourself you can get in better condition than last time, then you'll reach that goal and well done for doing it. But if you're looking to make an impact on stage, and get a decent placing, then I think unfortunately you're going to be disappointed.
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Debussey knows nothing. Debussey = a retard in a wheelchair.
Fixed.
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this guy was also a guest:
(http://anthony-robbins.org.uk/pics/anthony_robbins_picture.jpg)
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While you do look better than any of your previous pics, you still don't look on course to be on stage in a matter of weeks. It's hard to tell in the pic, but you don't look to be showing much definition in your legs yet, and you've still got a layer of fat covering the abs. Also, your shoulders need some serious work.
If you're aiming to achieve a personal best, to show yourself you can get in better condition than last time, then you'll reach that goal and well done for doing it. But if you're looking to make an impact on stage, and get a decent placing, then I think unfortunately you're going to be disappointed.
As long as he remains hostile to the truth and those telling the truth he will forever fail.
Judging by his lack of smarts, he will fail for the rest of his life.
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Vince=horrible genetics...maybe even worse than mine. :-\
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this guy was also a guest:
(http://anthony-robbins.org.uk/pics/anthony_robbins_picture.jpg)
What about this guy?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/WayneDyerByPhilKonstantin.jpg)
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What about this guy?
Probably slightly less of a fraud than Toney, but not by much.
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Vince=horrible genetics...maybe even worse than mine. :-\
and to make that even worse, he is a negro. Talk about a genetic fuck up....... :-X
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Probably slightly less of a fraud than Toney, but not by much.
What about this guy?
(http://thinkpeace.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/napoleon-hill.jpg)
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and to make that even worse, he is a negro. Talk about a genetic fuck up....... :-X
There are plenty of negros with shit genetics.
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What about this guy?
He is at least an originator.
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Looks to be around 15-17%, but everything around 13-18% looks about the same.
His legs dont look like they have any seperation in them, and his abs are just starting to come through.
So 15% may be giving him a bit, but either way he's FAR from stage ready. About a good 12 weeks out.
I was thinking around 17% but holding a lot of water.
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There are plenty of negros with shit genetics.
Bullshit
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He is at least an originator.
What about this guy?
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/648979/2/istockphoto_648979_butt_kisser.jpg)
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(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/648979/2/istockphoto_648979_butt_kisser.jpg)
LOL!
Have you actually read "Think and grow rich"?
It's so funny how all the "gurus" of today simply copied him and added some irrelevant fluff and pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.
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LOL!
Have you actually read "Think and grow rich"?
It's so funny how all the "gurus" of today simply copied him and added some irrelevant fluff and pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.
I am spreading your gospel, master. :)
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LOL!
Have you actually read "Think and grow rich"?
It's so funny how all the "gurus" of today simply copied him and added some irrelevant fluff.
Gayer than having it a copy on teh bookshelf + having the audiobook in mp3 format :o
And yes, many copycats out there, but the original covers most of it. A lot of newer writers also adds irrelevant shit as you say.
Debussey's interest in things like creative visualization comes from reading about its use in sports psychology and having tested it out itself in many areas with great results.
Debussey = also interested in how one can use techniques used by psychologists (like EMDR) to improve performance.
One thing = for sure. There are no "secret methods". Using these ways of thinking and advanced techniques requires lots of practice.
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Yeah, Melvin is right about the many dickheads on Getbig. Sometimes they goad people into changing for the better. When it comes to bodybuilding competitions it is always wise to err on the side of being too ripped. Makes you wonder how big the pros are who manage to compete at heavy bodyweights and still show striations.
Melvin is on track for a better showing. Trouble is he will end up a middleweight the way he is going. What happened to those 19 inch arms? They can't be over 17 at the moment.
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Gayer than having it a copy on teh bookshelf + having the audiobook in mp3 format :o
And yes, many copycats out there, but the original covers most of it. A lot of newer writers also adds irrelevant shit as you say.
Debussey's interest in things like creative visualization comes from reading about its use in sports psychology and having tested it out itself in many areas with great results.
Debussey = also interested in how one can use techniques used by psychologists (like EMDR) to improve performance.
One thing = for sure. There are no "secret methods". Using these ways of thinking and advanced techniques requires lots of practice.
My take is this: the methods work great for some people but IMO for other reasons than theorized. Most people are born to be mediocre and nothing will change that. On the other hand, there are great geniuses, who would laugh in your face if you told them about "visualizing".
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My take is this: the methods work great for some people but IMO for other reasons than theorized. Most people are born to be mediocre and nothing will change that. On the other hand, there are great geniuses, who would laugh in your face if you told them about "visualizing".
Interesting take on it.
Debussey agrees that most people are born to be mediocre. Groups of humans have a tendency to cluster around the average, and only a few deviates greatly. (Gayer than the bell curve).
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Bullshit
ABO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
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That is the price Goodrum has to pay to salvage some respect from the flotsam on Getbig.
Next time you call me flotsam, I'm gonna kick your creepy ass.
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Next time you call me flotsam, I'm gonna kick your creepy ass.
Ignore the guy, he is garbage. He will soon be dead and forgotten.
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Next time you call me flotsam, I'm gonna kick your creepy ass.
LOL ;D
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Yeah, Melvin is right about the many dickheads on Getbig. Sometimes they goad people into changing for the better. When it comes to bodybuilding competitions it is always wise to err on the side of being too ripped. Makes you wonder how big the pros are who manage to compete at heavy bodyweights and still show striations.
Melvin is on track for a better showing. Trouble is he will end up a middleweight the way he is going. What happened to those 19 inch arms? They can't be over 17 at the moment.
Even depleted, I still have some decent guns. But I really need to get some carbs in....chuckle
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Serious question Vince,who takes your picture??
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Serious question Vince,who takes your picture??
Yes, how can they get a clear picture with all the laughing they must be doing?
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Serious question Vince,who takes your picture??
My guess, Queen Vissy, Vince you have a long way to go. Suggestion up the dose.
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Looking good Vince, keep it up.
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as I said, good starting point for a contest diet
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Looking good Vince, keep it up.
You stop that!
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keep working vince, you're getting there
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You stop that!
He's looking better than ever, let's just see if he can keep it up.
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More Pictures at Bodyspace.com...... ;D
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as I said, good starting point for a contest diet
haha
laying the smack down
if you seemememeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeell what the wave is cooking
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LOLLL
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LOLLL
hahahahahaha
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hahahahahaha
Well it does say "Estimated" ;D
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damn this guy is funny
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As this information proves: He is a moron and will fail once again due to acting on his delusions instead of the facts.
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damn this guy is funny
Vince I was rooting for you. Then I read your weight and supposed bodyfat ???
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maybe he can rap?
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;D ;D
But seriously Vince, why didn't you buy a decent powerrack in stead of all those fancy machine equipment?
Exactly
This is what I have and it never fails.
(http://www.americanfitness.net/images/products/detail/01810900.jpg)
(http://www.dynamicfitness.com/images/products/PAAAIAHIOODJKODB.jpg)
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First off, I don't have to pay for equipment but I didn't get a Powerrack because I didn't have the room to put one in along with all the other essentials. The equipment I have is sufficient to getting the job done
You have got to be kidding me. ???
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You have got to be kidding me. ???
"getting the job done" could potentially mean absolutely anything, including the transformation into melted dogturd.
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Brutal photoshop ???
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/SANY1055.JPG)
Compare the arm size/length above and below.........wtf?
(http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com//img/user_images/growable/2009/05/21/26485/progresspic/1CRpZa4vHwGigh3QxxDngwOi1t40010p.jpeg)
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Where are the contest pics? I need some inspiration :-X
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Where are the contest pics? I need some inspiration :-X
;D
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/mountaineer.jpg)
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Muntzeresque ;)
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Even depleted, I still have some decent guns. But I really need to get some carbs in....chuckle
You=horrible, horrible genetics. :-\
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Brutal photoshop ???
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/SANY1055.JPG)
Compare the arm size/length above and below.........wtf?
(http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com//img/user_images/growable/2009/05/21/26485/progresspic/1CRpZa4vHwGigh3QxxDngwOi1t40010p.jpeg)
Sorry, not Photoshop. Don't know how to use it
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you should try to become the first black pokemon trainer
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you should try to become the first black pokemon trainer
Is this guy joking? ???
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who won that posedown between him and billy guns? Always saw pics but didnt know what the result was
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who won that posedown between him and billy guns? Always saw pics but didnt know what the result was
Certainly nobody who viewed it....
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Is this guy joking? ???
i wished he was bro
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Melvin has improved heaps since his last contest. He will win a trophy for sure. Surely Vince G CSN MFT PHD has the longest biceps in bodybuilding history.
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I just rubbed out the rest of the pic, otherwise no manipulation done.
Seems like queen vissy favor a left hand fisting.
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He looks like a black Gumby doll in that front lat shot
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
You might want to consider laying off whatever it is your smoking Bastile, talk about "clouded". I esp like the part about "carrying his training bag". Thats almost as good as the "keeps improving" part.
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
I wish I had that pic of you at the beach standing next to the sign.........
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I wish I had that pic of you at the beach standing next to the sign.........
G o t h b o y to the rescue.
In 3... 2... 1...
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seems Basile is trying find allies, does he envision a future flotsam vs getscum war ???
either that or he wants to play queen vissey for a night
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
You bagged on him more than anyone, you fuckin hypocrite.
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
Aren't you dead yet!
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Aren't you dead yet!
158 and still stuntin'
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I have to laugh at the flotsam who bag Melvin yet couldn't carry his training bag. Wannabe after wannabe dreams of being huge but when we see photos they appear rather small. These same heroes can bag Melvin who in fact has made progress re his condition. The lads here aren't fair to the dude who battles on and keeps improving.
Aren't you the old washed-up queen who takes pictures of himself in a cage? Hardly one who should be passing judgement....
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Aren't you the old washed-up queen who takes pictures of himself in a cage? Hardly one who should be passing judgement....
Fuckin guy is close to eighty years old and has nothing better to do then stalk a gay negro on Getbig, really pathetic existence.
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G o t h b o y to the rescue.
In 3... 2... 1...
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;D
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as far as the rest of this board goes with hammering on vince basile...i really dont understand it. the guy had a great physique, is an innovator with unique ideas, and posts intelligent stuff. yet getbig ridicules him?
Basile = a fat freak and pervert.
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i am not a fan of melvin, but he has made improvements as vince says. he has not yet "arrived", but he is headed in the right direction.
as far as the rest of this board goes with hammering on vince basile...i really dont understand it. the guy had a great physique, is an innovator with unique ideas, and posts intelligent stuff. yet getbig ridicules him?
Becasue his posts are epic novels that rival War and Peace, typed in purple font, and all without saying anything.
Also he has a fat chick fetish, which makes him a deviant pervert.
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where do you come up with that accusation? based on WHAT.
By reading his posts and getting creeped out when understanding what a freak he is.
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ive read a lot of vinces post...and havent gathered any of that...
i think its more of everyone on here is joining the bandwagon b/c they think it makes them cool and unites them to make fun of the same person....
for gradeschool mentality stuff. give credit where credit is due. he has accomplished much more than any getbigger will probably ever be able to.
Stick to posting pics of yourself, its what you do best, otherwise STFU!
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ive read a lot of vinces post...and havent gathered any of that...
i think its more of everyone on here is joining the bandwagon b/c they think it makes them cool and unites them to make fun of the same person....
for gradeschool mentality stuff. give credit where credit is due. he has accomplished much more than any getbigger will probably ever be able to.
Bandwagon? I've been making fun of Basile's dumb ass ever since he came on here in the late 90's and wanted to talk about his "bicep supinator machine" invention and argue his crackpot theories of hypertrophy.
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Bandwagon? I've been making fun of Basile's dumb ass ever since he came on here in the late 90's and wanted to talk about his "bicep supinator machine" invention and argue his crackpot theories of hypertrophy.
I don't remember anything specific about hypertrophy Vince said besides noting some scientist once did experiments on chickens. Vince was pretty vague. I think he's gonna take his theory to the grave.
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Bandwagon? I've been making fun of Basile's dumb ass ever since he came on here in the late 90's and wanted to talk about his "bicep supinator machine" invention and argue his crackpot theories of hypertrophy.
haha, Goat. Gotta love a good ole veteran smackdown on a newb...
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he used to talk about doms for best results for hypertrophy. it was an interesting theory, and quite possibly right.
Can you chance your nick to SimplySperm?
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i could if i wished, but i wont. hope this helps you my internet genius.
But why? The name is so nice! You need it!
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and you claim vince B is the perv...tisk tisk. i dont recall vince talking about sperm...
When will you change your name to SimplySperm?
Also, some sperm might help you with teh diet. Good protein.
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cant be serious.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=265610.0;attach=322587;image)
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something looks odd about the arms in this pic.
First thing that struck me, too.
/maybe someone can rotate it
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wanna make me internet bad boy ::) you seem to be obsessed with my pics. you've posted comments like this more than once....
i have a thread that im doing progress pics on my diet. and ive had a thread on the old diet i did with progress pics. why wouldnt i post pics, its a thread about MY progress.
why dont you throw up a pick my little stalker? come on, let us all have a good laugh :-*
It's laughable to me that someone would start a progress thread on an internet message board. Is your life so void of human interaction that you seek acceptance here? My guess is that you are a insecure homosexual who has been butthurt his whole life and now seeks approval through bodybuilding. Carry on DOUCHEBAG! I have been training way longer then you and my stats are way better, although I do not need approval from anonymous internet screennames.
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First thing that struck me, too.
/maybe someone can rotate it
::) Pay attention bitches, I've already done it some pages ago!
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vince goodrum's 2009 showing (if it happens) will be the event of the summer.
we'll be howling with laughter as he struts around in tightie whities, proud of his 6 foot 1, 170 pound physique.
18 inch arms, his body space says. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. v
*breathe*
delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional. delusional.
Good luck Wince. we await the excuse you used for bypassing this show.
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Melvin is on target. Getbig flotsam hate to give credit where it is due. Goodrum is smaller but looks more like a bodybuilder now. Good for him.
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i just scanned through some of elite_lifters posts from when he first joined the board. even from the beginning they are nothing but negative comments and claims which have never been backed up. a very sad statement that all that you can contribute to this board is negativity stemming from your own life.
relax and enjoy life a little bit. no need to hate all the time. life's too short to live it in negativity.
Your opinion is only shared by the lowlife scum here.
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Melvin is on target. Getbig flotsam hate to give credit where it is due. Goodrum is smaller but looks more like a bodybuilder now. Good for him.
" Looks like a Bodybuilder". Not even in Ethiopia. Maybe's he's managed to drop some bodyfat, he still looks he's untrained.
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Melvin is on target. Getbig flotsam hate to give credit where it is due. Goodrum is smaller but looks more like a bodybuilder now. Good for him.
He looks like a homeless person who's had their arms stretched out in a torture rack.
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Let's hope Melvin omits the fancy posing transitions that make him look ridiculous. Just get into the compulsory poses without trying to duplicate what some professional posers do. Vince G will surprise a lot of people when he competes. He should win another trophy.
BTW I use navy and not purple font.
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To SimplyHuge. The flotsam and resident guard dogs like to make sure everyone gets baptised on Getbig. If you are an independent thinker people will target you and try to upset you. When you don't respond to taunts and bagging they step up the attack. The first putdowns are that you are stupid. If you keep posting then you must be gay as well. If all else fails then you must be perverted. The ultimate insult is to call someone a pedophile. Thus, I have been called old, gay, stupid, and perverted. I might not like the descriptions but I don't reply to people who post rubbish.
There are some good guys here but most go along with the bullshit to steady the ship. The social cohesion on Getbig is rank and sordid. Goatboy and Debussey are heroes on line but nobodies in real life. They can't post photos of themselves and have achieved bugger all as far as bodybuilding and the Irongame goes. It is far easier to throw stones than build a decent physique. Competing like Melvin Goodrum does is a feather in his cap. Not many on Getbig will ever get up on stage and pose. That much is certain.
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very true, very true.
melvin has at least "manned up" to the challenge, and has shown improvements. most of getbig has yet to post a pic, but all claim to be "better than melvin". by no means am i saying melvin looks great or anything of the sort, BUT he looks good for HIM. he has shown improvement in himself, and that is all that matters.
the idea most getbiggers use is that if you cant win an argument logically, then the next best thing is to undermine a persons character, and therefore what he says, by saying "he's gay, pedophile, etc. etc."
i am currently thinking of converting to Muscular Development. im not sure how much of this goes on over there. a lot of the posts on getbig are stolen from there anyways....which shows lack of creativity here...
You're gay and your ugly mug actually makes me aggressive in previously unknown ways.
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very true, very true.
melvin has at least "manned up" to the challenge, and has shown improvements. most of getbig has yet to post a pic, but all claim to be "better than melvin". by no means am i saying melvin looks great or anything of the sort, BUT he looks good for HIM. he has shown improvement in himself, and that is all that matters.
the idea most getbiggers use is that if you cant win an argument logically, then the next best thing is to undermine a persons character, and therefore what he says, by saying "he's gay, pedophile, etc. etc."
i am currently thinking of converting to Muscular Development. im not sure how much of this goes on over there. a lot of the posts on getbig are stolen from there anyways....which shows lack of creativity here...
seriously you are an insecure homosexual, why do you want everyone to post a pic of themselves in a thong on a forum full of guys??? its because you get sexual pleasure from it and you hope there will be someone with a worse physique than yours so you feel good about yourself, and you want all the nuthuggers to say how great you look ::) go over to MD then, dont just say, nobody here cares!
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this is great stuff
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I cant wait to see Vince's Comp pictures and pro bodybuilding type excuses why he placed where he did.
i feel the following will be this years excuses....
-he got confused about 'shitloading" and ate cheeseburgers and ice cream for the entire 12 weeks then ate clean the last 24 hours
-he got a tainted batch of bee pollen which mircuolously made him hold 30lbs of water and ate all his muscle
-his cell tech didnt arrive on time
-he forgot his posing trunks in the hamper at the shelter he lives in so he had to stop by K-Mart and pick up some fruit of the looms to wear on stage
-a supplement company is offering him a contract and will pay him for the rights to use his contest photos as the before pics so he had to stop training and dieting 2 weeks out
-his Tony Little Ecliptical and chuck Norris total Gym broke a month out so he couldnt train or do cardio
-he really believed that box of marshmallow scmores nutritional label that said 2 "net carbs" grams per serving.
-his trainer fucked up
-his nutritionist fucked up
-his cousin broke up with him and left him for another woman
-the judges were racist
-he wasnt managed by JMP
-he got a bogus batch of steroids...oops he is natural
-he got pulled over by the cops for speeding on the way to the show doing 140 miles per hour in his Saturn and didnt make it to the show on time to properly pump and oil up
-they saw his nipples and mistakenly entered him into the figure class
- we are all haters and he will show us next time
-someone spiked his chicken and veggies for donuts and beer
and last but not least
-he most likely overslept as a result of all the above
:)
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Why is it so bad to tell someone he is way behind schedule?
It's just too obvious, nothing personal against Vince.
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-he only use 750 mg test each week despite the advice of GH.15,, for using 1000mg.
-it's a jewish worldwide conspiration against him.
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The condition that Melvin is currently in was believed to be unobtainable by Vince G despite his CSN MFT and PHD. The dude must be hyper-motivated to succeed because of all the crap he gets on line. We are finally seeing some definition, unlike the spectacle he presented in the Billy Guns showdown where he look like a pork chop. With those long muscle bellies he could develop much larger size. The potential is there.
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Why is it so bad to tell someone he is way behind schedule?
It's just too obvious, nothing personal against Vince.
you=ripped aryan bastard with muscles
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Looks like he has an old neck injury.
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He'll drop out due to Vissy's prolapsing his colon after a night of vigorous pre-contest sex.
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What excuse will Vince Goodrum use when drops out of show?
AIDS
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Goodrum!
Gay, black, and retarded ain't no way to go through life, son. ::)
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Goodrum!
Gay, black, and retarded ain't no way to go through life, son. ::)
It is all he has to work with. Some are blessed and some ::)
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The condition that Melvin is currently in was believed to be unobtainable by Vince G despite his CSN MFT and PHD. The dude must be hyper-motivated to succeed because of all the crap he gets on line. We are finally seeing some definition, unlike the spectacle he presented in the Billy Guns showdown where he look like a pork chop. With those long muscle bellies he could develop much larger size. The potential is there.
nobody is denying that he looks better, it just has nothing to do with contest condition
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Vince make sure you don't peak too early, it's clear from his comments that Basille has.
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Vince make sure you don't peak too early, it's clear from his comments that Basille has.
I should be fine as I'm not doing anything drastic. I'm going to simply keep following the plan laid out and be onstage next week
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This is the best Vince has ever looked, IMO.
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This is the best Vince has ever looked, IMO.
his best still sucks
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Good luck Vince.
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his best still sucks
Post pics of your nose, titanic turkish tank.
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Post pics of your nose, titanic turkish tank.
The doctors said there was nothing they could do.
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Post pics of your nose, titanic turkish tank.
not yet bro
not with the plaster
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Ironneck is a Twat Terrorizing Turk.
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you wished you looked that good buddy :)
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you wished you looked that good buddy :)
Yep, getting cheap suburban tats as we speak. BMW and golden necklace left and I'm all set to go!
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Yep, getting cheap suburban tats as we speak. BMW and golden necklace left and I'm all set to go!
my tats are cool >:(
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my BMW and my goldchains too :D
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Goodrum!
Gay, black, and retarded ain't no way to go through life, son. ::)
-Dean Vernon Wormer
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my tats are cool >:(
ironneck - You should write something like "Lone wolf" or "Gray wolf" underneath it.
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my tats are cool >:(
Hey man I'm just not a tattoo person. I just can't understand how you are willing to mark yourself for life with something that you might regret 10 years from now.
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my BMW and my goldchains too :D
Out of curiosity, did you pay for the BMW with your own hard earned money?
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ironneck - You should write something like "Lone wolf" or "Gray wolf" underneath it.
if i write gray wolf underneath it than people will finally think i'm a fascist
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Out of curiosity, did you pay for the BMW with your own hard earned money?
lol i'm 20 and soon a student,of course not
my mom is the best :D
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lol i'm 20 and soon a student,of course not
my mom is the best :D
Awesome man, keep up the turk.
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Awesome man, keep up the turk.
turks up hoes down
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Seems everybody in these pictures needs to hang it up ;D
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Keep telling yourself that Keath bar. But you now realize that you are fat and I'm obviously not..... ;D
I've let you all talk shit for the past week about my physique and now that I bust out the pictures, all you can say is that my house is small....my have things have changed
I got news for you. My house isn't that small, its just that my arms are just that BIG. And come showtime, I'm going to ride these 19's onto my first place
Hard work pays off....deal with it bitches.... ;)
My favourite getbig post of ALL time. For a week I laughed every time I thought about it. ;D
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Haven't used them in 8 years. I have the overall size and muscular thickness to win a WNBF or NGA pro card. Just have to put things all together. Lots of cardio and lots of tuna will do that
Another beauty.