Shawn did you ever go to room 7 by the ice machine?
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
Any questions?
how much did you learn from esfitness when he trained you back in the 90s when he was 15?
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.
At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)
Shawn you are the best 212 bodybuilder of all time GOAT! Just my personal opinion
Conditioning, Symmetry, Balance, Poseing you had it all. (VACCUM)
Flex Lewis, Jose Raymond, Hadi Choopan... LOL 1992-1996 (1994 Mr. O) would wipe anyone off the stage
These guys got nothing on you...tell em all to enter the open.
What year and contest did I take these pictures of you... and which Olympia did you think you were at your all time best...
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Get serious...Bitch ass Homo
Am i the only one that believes Shawn account was haked or bought?
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=255113.0;attach=550458;image)
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Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
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This thread is giving me a parsh. ;D
Why did you wear a rug on your dome one year?... why didn't you shave it all off?
ohhhhh
So that's why she's called booty.
I swear, I do not recall ever seeing her booty on here.
too many questions too much shit, thread is already 3 pages because the usual gang of getbiggers need to gossip every chance they get like little teenage girls on their phones who cant keep their mouth shut.
might as well lock the thread now
cool animated gif
loved that shit when it first appeared on the internet 15-20 years ago glad there's still people enjoying it
Going to wait 2 pages more, until it becomes obvious that 80 percent of posters in this thread, "Shawn Ray" included, is the same person.
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As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
WOW GH15 IS HERE!!!
how many times a day did you have to suck off Blechman to keep your job at MD?
also what do you think about his way of running MD and employees there?
The siren song of Karen. She has caused many a wreck upon Musclehead Rock.
how many times a day did you have to suck off Blechman to keep your job at MD?
also what do you think about his way of running MD and employees there?
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?
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No GH and Insulin were not part of Bodybuilding for me and my career.That much is obvious when comparing your physique to the modern pregnant and bloated pros. Glad to hear you're smart enough to stay away from bodybuilding drugs after competing, it's better to retire ahead than be a former shell of yourself just to prove something and end up hurting yourself in the process.
What happened at the Arnold with Palumbo? When you stole Ahmad away from Rx. Whats your side of the story? That was awesome by the way!
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?
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An important question, Shawn:
1) Why are getbiggers such hypocrites? :D :D When you were not posting, they were saying you were overrated and you complain too much. Now, they are singing your praise because you're posting again. Can you explain this phenomenon?
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?
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Palumbo was saying you have it out for Chad since the 90's, which is why you have been writing some negative stuff regarding gurus especially Chad, whats your opinion on gurus and The Chad?
shawn I might be moving to Hawaii soon (1-2 years)
I know you do a show in Hawaii (NPC event)
what is your opinion of being a bodybuilder in Hawaii? Maui to be specific. - good culture. i need a good ecosystem.
my goal in 3-4 years is mens classic physique pro (not too too far off imho) goal is that IFBB pro card in my class
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?
Also while you were gone shizzo died, came back and sucked a dick, no bull shit.
Damnit, I love this thread.. ;D.....getbig needed that in the midst of all these nonsenses lately.....Now, we need Cicherillo to get back here as well
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.one whole nz-inch
At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)
Shawn, how was Milos able to sneak back into the US again? Do you really believe Nasser and Dorian banged his ex wife?
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OH BOY, thats a lot of questions for less than 24 hours and being gone for nearly 10 years!
Short answers:
- Yes, I workout when or if I feel like it. I travel a lot and I'm raising my kids so thats my priorities and the gym will always be my first love so I return to it often in bunches with plenty of breaks in between. Calories in and Calories out. Im more concerned about how I feel rather than stuck on how I look. I worked out to be the Best Bodybuilder I could be, now I work out because I like to eat and stay active and healthy. My weight is 217 and steady (5lbs over my contest weight and 15 pounds under my Off Season Weight when I competed)
- I personally feel I was a more "Complete" bodybuilder than Flex Lewis at 212lb with fewer flaws.
- I never gave a shit about Dorian living and training with Weinberger, it answered a lot of questions for me while trying to beat Dorian which is how I rationalized closure on my career. It was what it was.
- Jim Manion has Big plans for the NPC & Pro League and Im on board with his ideas of making the sport better.
- I haven't used a Drug since I retired 17 years ago.
- Former Pro Bodybuilders using HRT is another word for ADDICT!
- I didn't compete more often because I never competed for Trophies or money, I was trying to be Mr Olympia which is the reason I got out of bed each day to go to work and focus on that singular Goal. I didn't care about how many shows I could win or prize money I could make, business was good for me Off Stage to where I didn't have to do a bunch of contests.
- I turned Pro in 1987 and immediately stated on camera, "I'll probably Lose more shows than I win however I just want to be considered One of the Best if not The Best by the time I'm done."
- My Drug Cycle lead me to gaining 14lbs in q14 years by design. I never wanted to be the Biggest, I wanted to be The Best.
- I don't mind "Disrespect" from Strangers I don't know or never met. I have thick skin and the Internet Warriors have Never approached me to tell me to my face that they Post online, not a Single One including Tamali & Nasser.
- I haven't spoken to Levrone in a Year since this weekend when I told him he was "Delusional" thinking he could beat Justin Compton let alone Akim Williams. I was right and we haven't talked since. # TruthHurts.
- Breon Ansley is the Real Deal!
- The new "Wellness: Division is the most Exciting Division!
- I never cared much about Not winning the Olympia, I knew too much about the reasons Why which had nothing to do with my Physique which made it easier for me to transition away from the stage.
- I Guest posed One Time Fat and Out of shape in 14 Years in 1996 substituting for Kevin Levrone in 1996 at Jim Manion show with 1 1/2 Week Notice. I was a Contracted Weider Athlete with a Contracted number of Appearances and was Directed to fill in for Kevin even though I was Offseason and Protested. I was after I placed 5th at the 96 ASC and people wrote me off for Dead.
I finished the year with a 2nd place finish at the 96 Mr Olympia the same year. I have yet to see a Fat Photo of me Guest Posing from any other contest the the one these Fat Pics are from in Pittsburgh. Looking back I laugh but the lesson was learned that day to Stand up and never do something I was not on board with doing regardless of a Contract or Whom was asking the favor. I tried to stress this to Dallas McCarver but his Trainer, "The Chad & Sponsor, Singerman" got in the kids head and pushed him into putting himself in a Bad Light.
- I comfortably Retired with Businesses that are flourishing with ZERO Interest in Competing again. For What?
- Big Army is the nicest most Humble Pro on the Circuit today.
- Flex Lewis was beaten in Asia.
- The Bubble Guts were on Full Display this years Olympia something I was talking about back in 1994.
- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.
- Racism is Alive and Well.
- The NFL is getting too political to enjoy.
#RAIDERNATION4LIFE!
- Classic Physique will replace Open Bodybuilding as the sports #1 Interest oneway soon if the criteria for Winning isn't changed soon.
- The New NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic is in Honolulu, Hawaii November 4th: www.SRHAwaiianClassic.co m
- I never had a Gimmick Account.
- My Best Years were 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 99, 01.
- Steve Blechman doesn't owe me a Dime.
- Generation Iron interests my Creative Ideas and Change is Good!
- MD was a great run but not room for Growth for me.
- This year Olympia Webcast was the Best Ever!
- Tight Booty was a Hot Topic here, lets bring her back to piss of Lee Priest! Is he still in Jail? Hospital? Tattoo Parlor? Looking for a Job? Locked out of the US? Details please..... ;D
- I've missed King Tamali, he's still on the Dead pool List? Amazing run for this guy who was supposed to beat me on stage ::)
- Brandon Curry is my Bodybuilder of the YEAR!
- My Drug Cycle while competing was a reflection of the respect I had for my Body and the Business.
- Ronnie Colemans disposition was predictable based on his style of training, thats an observation and a fact. Dorian was headed in the same direction but smartly backed off in 97 and changed directions with his physical interests.
- Is Lee Thompson still Alive?
- The Super League is Super Dead according to Dorian Yates.
- I'm happily retired and supporting the sport on a Global Scale MCING, Promoting and Covering the Sport.
- GENERATION IRON is Amazing with respect for the Sport, Opportunities, Coverage and promotions!
Thats all for now boys! Haters FLAME AWAY 8)
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?No.
Only thing missing is some Oil, Tan, Muscle, Shave and a Pro Card!Shawn always did have an eye for talent.
Other than that, looks great me! ;D
Shawn why did Sadik keep grabbing the mic when you interviewed him at the Olympia? ;D It looked like you became annoyed and finally told him to stop touching the mic, good stuff!
Thanks so much for giving us regular folks an open line to a true legend of BB. As a teen you were def one of my favorites and I'd love to see you back at about 8% body fat natural and still maintain some serious muscle just to prove it can be done at your age. Also while you were gone shizzo died, came back and sucked a dick, no bull shit.
Melvin Goodrum said he talked to you recently. Are you two related? Well, we understand if you can't answer. I doubt anyone would fess up to that fact!
By the way, could you talk to Ron to help me get my competitor BLUE stars?
Which bodybuilders are the biggest dickheads you ever met?
Shawn: have you had any dealings with Scott Abel?
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?No.
That would be Franco. :o
No.
That would be Franco. :o
What is your favorite pool side adult beverage?Toequila.
Melvin Goodrum said he talked to you recently. Are you two related? Well, we understand if you can't answer. I doubt anyone would fess up to that fact!
By the way, could you talk to Ron to help me get my competitor BLUE stars?
Jesus Christ, Vince. Enough with the blue damn stars ::)
X2, this is a new time low :-\Probably because it's a gimmick. The real Vince, wouldn't have asked that.
Probably because it's a gimmick. The real Vince, wouldn't have asked that.
Trust me.
Shawn,Isn't that how most guys are blown ???
Do you agree with the Olympia placings? While Heath was better from the back, Ramy blew him away from the front, plus Phil's gut and hernia were pretty bad.
Isn't that how most guys are blown ???
Shawn, how much did Ron pay you to come back to the board?A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)
A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)
And a sponsorship with Jergens. Shawn will be mainly responsible for the cocoa butter branch of the company.
A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)
And a sponsorship with Jergens. Shawn will be mainly responsible for the cocoa butter branch of the company.
OH BOY, thats a lot of questions for less than 24 hours and being gone for nearly 10 years!
Short answers:
- Yes, I workout when or if I feel like it. I travel a lot and I'm raising my kids so thats my priorities and the gym will always be my first love so I return to it often in bunches with plenty of breaks in between. Calories in and Calories out. Im more concerned about how I feel rather than stuck on how I look. I worked out to be the Best Bodybuilder I could be, now I work out because I like to eat and stay active and healthy. My weight is 217 and steady (5lbs over my contest weight and 15 pounds under my Off Season Weight when I competed)
- I personally feel I was a more "Complete" bodybuilder than Flex Lewis at 212lb with fewer flaws.
- I never gave a shit about Dorian living and training with Weinberger, it answered a lot of questions for me while trying to beat Dorian which is how I rationalized closure on my career. It was what it was.
- Jim Manion has Big plans for the NPC & Pro League and Im on board with his ideas of making the sport better.
- I haven't used a Drug since I retired 17 years ago.
- Former Pro Bodybuilders using HRT is another word for ADDICT!
- I didn't compete more often because I never competed for Trophies or money, I was trying to be Mr Olympia which is the reason I got out of bed each day to go to work and focus on that singular Goal. I didn't care about how many shows I could win or prize money I could make, business was good for me Off Stage to where I didn't have to do a bunch of contests.
- I turned Pro in 1987 and immediately stated on camera, "I'll probably Lose more shows than I win however I just want to be considered One of the Best if not The Best by the time I'm done."
- My Drug Cycle lead me to gaining 14lbs in q14 years by design. I never wanted to be the Biggest, I wanted to be The Best.
- I don't mind "Disrespect" from Strangers I don't know or never met. I have thick skin and the Internet Warriors have Never approached me to tell me to my face that they Post online, not a Single One including Tamali & Nasser.
- I haven't spoken to Levrone in a Year since this weekend when I told him he was "Delusional" thinking he could beat Justin Compton let alone Akim Williams. I was right and we haven't talked since. # TruthHurts.
- Breon Ansley is the Real Deal!
- The new "Wellness: Division is the most Exciting Division!
- I never cared much about Not winning the Olympia, I knew too much about the reasons Why which had nothing to do with my Physique which made it easier for me to transition away from the stage.
- I Guest posed One Time Fat and Out of shape in 14 Years in 1996 substituting for Kevin Levrone in 1996 at Jim Manion show with 1 1/2 Week Notice. I was a Contracted Weider Athlete with a Contracted number of Appearances and was Directed to fill in for Kevin even though I was Offseason and Protested. I was after I placed 5th at the 96 ASC and people wrote me off for Dead.
I finished the year with a 2nd place finish at the 96 Mr Olympia the same year. I have yet to see a Fat Photo of me Guest Posing from any other contest the the one these Fat Pics are from in Pittsburgh. Looking back I laugh but the lesson was learned that day to Stand up and never do something I was not on board with doing regardless of a Contract or Whom was asking the favor. I tried to stress this to Dallas McCarver but his Trainer, "The Chad & Sponsor, Singerman" got in the kids head and pushed him into putting himself in a Bad Light.
- I comfortably Retired with Businesses that are flourishing with ZERO Interest in Competing again. For What?
- Big Army is the nicest most Humble Pro on the Circuit today.
- Flex Lewis was beaten in Asia.
- The Bubble Guts were on Full Display this years Olympia something I was talking about back in 1994.
- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.
- Racism is Alive and Well.
- The NFL is getting too political to enjoy.
#RAIDERNATION4LIFE!
- Classic Physique will replace Open Bodybuilding as the sports #1 Interest oneway soon if the criteria for Winning isn't changed soon.
- The New NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic is in Honolulu, Hawaii November 4th: www.SRHAwaiianClassic.co m
- I never had a Gimmick Account.
- My Best Years were 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 99, 01.
- Steve Blechman doesn't owe me a Dime.
- Generation Iron interests my Creative Ideas and Change is Good!
- MD was a great run but not room for Growth for me.
- This year Olympia Webcast was the Best Ever!
- Tight Booty was a Hot Topic here, lets bring her back to piss of Lee Priest! Is he still in Jail? Hospital? Tattoo Parlor? Looking for a Job? Locked out of the US? Details please..... ;D
- I've missed King Tamali, he's still on the Dead pool List? Amazing run for this guy who was supposed to beat me on stage ::)
- Brandon Curry is my Bodybuilder of the YEAR!
- My Drug Cycle while competing was a reflection of the respect I had for my Body and the Business.
- Ronnie Colemans disposition was predictable based on his style of training, thats an observation and a fact. Dorian was headed in the same direction but smartly backed off in 97 and changed directions with his physical interests.
- Is Lee Thompson still Alive?
- The Super League is Super Dead according to Dorian Yates.
- I'm happily retired and supporting the sport on a Global Scale MCING, Promoting and Covering the Sport.
- GENERATION IRON is Amazing with respect for the Sport, Opportunities, Coverage and promotions!
Thats all for now boys! Haters FLAME AWAY 8)
- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.
Shawn
Is Cour LaSkip natural?
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate. Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever. Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business. Did it the right way.he gets hate because bodybuilders are insecure and immature, and can't take the truth about their own physiques. They believe it's a personal attack on them, and chose to over look their own flaws. And when someone like Shawn is candid about them, they melt.
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate. Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever. Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business. Did it the right way.
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!Who?
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
No.Wow just awesome Pics of Franco!! Thx Bosch
That would be Franco. :o
Glad to see honest opinion on here, Shawn. :D
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Shopped
welcome back sean
Do you think Phil Heath's gut was out of control this Olympia?
Shawn who was the better bodybuilder, you or Danny Padilla?
Shawn, just like you, Dave Palumbo likes to joke around, but I don't believe that's making him a 'troll'. Would you accept Dave's offer to do a 'Live with..' interview?
Danny was good but I doubt he could ever beat; Levrone, Wheeler, Nasser or Coleman but I did so you tell me.
Like him or hate him (and many do), can't deny he had a terrific physique.
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Shawn
What would you do if Sadik refused to give you back the mic?
Shawn
Shawn how did Milos sneak back into America without getting arrested?
X2. Please update us on the Milos situation.
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
X2. Please update us on the Milos situation.I was thinking the same thing. Dude is crazy to come back.
Shawn, please share your thoughts on the following....
The Delray Misfits, Big Lenny and Jason Genova are more popular than any mainstream bodybuilder today.
No.
That would be Franco. :o
Glad to see honest opinion on here, Shawn. :D
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Jesus Christ, Vince. Enough with the blue damn stars ::)
Shawn, is there anyway to prove this is really you? I'm more inclined to think that your account has been hacked by joon.
SHAWN ,,,OPINION ON THE GREAT LEE HANEY AND ESPECIALLY COMPETING AGAINST HIM?
No GH and Insulin were not part of Bodybuilding for me and my career.
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate. Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever. Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business. Did it the right way.
I remember you mentioning this to me years ago when I asked you in person, this was 2002/2003, and I believe you. You said straight up no insulin
Shawn, do you know how tom prince is doing these days?
Also remember the days of Richard Jones, (heard he was making a comeback like 50x) you brought him up, helped get him a Weider contract worth almost 100k and he turned his back on you?
What’s the deal with Melvin Anthony? He’s in prison now?
Forgot your story on Silvio Samuel and the furniture he apparently sold ;D
Come on, Vince. Respectfully, you've been around the game for a very long time. Been there, done that. You've given a lot to the muscle game and shared some great stories.
But don't try to make us think you weren't earnest in asking Shawn to give you blue stars. It's obvious that you do still want them. Frankly, it's obvious that you deserve them. I can't answer the question of why Ron hasn't given them to you... but it's something you are clearly still hung up about.
I generally don't like to get involved... but come on now. At your age, it's time to be honest with yourself.
There was a FLEX mag back around 2000 where they listed the ultimate bodybuilder, comprised of different bodyparts. Arnold was chest and maybe arms, Mike Matarazzo was calves (I think), shoulders went to Levrone, etc. I think Shawn Ray was given best abs. 8)
I hope this helps😎
An important question, Shawn:
1) Why are getbiggers such hypocrites? :D :D When you were not posting, they were saying you were overrated and you complain too much. Now, they are singing your praise because you're posting again. Can you explain this phenomenon?
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?, you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
Vince, seems I was wrong. It's sometimes hard to interpret humor or sarcasm over the net.
Mass with class.
Good to have you back Sean.
I am a GB original. Been back and forth in time out for over a decade. Using a new account.
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?, you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it
::)
I never really knew Tom as in "The person or athlete."Rich was in LE, correct? And I think had an issue with what "he needed to do" to take it to the next level. Do you think Classic Physique is a good fit for him?
Richard Jones wasn't cut out for this sport but genetically gifted and Uber Smart!
Melvin? Predictable.
Silvio, well let's just say I was warned to be cautious helping this kid and yes I lost my furniture in the end I let him use to help him out.
Seems that most people believe what they read. Literally. If it is on the net it must be true. So I post about those lame Blue Stars and people immediately think, here he goes again. Just stirring which I am quite good at seeing that so many fall for it.
One of the components of my humour is to repeat things over and over. Instead of others being amused they conclude I am some whinger complaining about the colour of avatar stars.
Just when you think I have forgotten about them I bring the subject up.....for amusement.
Hope this helps.
Ron said I competed too long ago. Truth is I fearlessly criticize the IFBB and that infamous Pro League. And Bob the patsy Chick.
i wondered how long it would be before you posted in this thread.
So, Melvin, are you and Shawn related?
i wondered how long it would be before you posted in this thread.
So, Melvin, are you and Shawn related?
Seems that most people believe what they read. Literally. If it is on the net it must be true. So I post about those lame Blue Stars and people immediately think, here he goes again. Just stirring which I am quite good at seeing that so many fall for it.
One of the components of my humour is to repeat things over and over. Instead of others being amused they conclude I am some whinger complaining about the colour of avatar stars.
Just when you think I have forgotten about them I bring the subject up.....for amusement.
Hope this helps.
Ron said I competed too long ago. Truth is I fearlessly criticize the IFBB and that infamous Pro League. And Bob the patsy Chick.
Milos always felt you wanted his gym. But Koloseum Gym, Fullerton closed after Milomar betrayed him. Why didn't you buy it then?
tell us about Mr. Olympia private after parties, word is some really sick orgy shit used to go down
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.
Rich was in LE, correct? And I think had an issue with what "he needed to do" to take it to the next level. Do you think Classic Physique is a good fit for him?
On Melvin, he had the genetics to be on top, just not the drive.
And Silvio, since he is out of prison and making strides, so you think he can do well?
Agreed about what you said about Brandon Curry.
great to have you here shawn :)
do you think dorian at his best could have beaten ronnie at his best? ;D ;D
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.
tell us about Mr. Olympia private after parties, word is some really sick orgy shit used to go down
Also:
We don't know what happened to Mustapha Muhammad, Orville Burke...etc.
Do you have an insight on bodybuilders who suddenly and suspiciously dissapeared off the radar? I am presuming due to health issues?
Shawn Ray - Is The House!!!! `
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
Shaun, who was the white bodybuilder (that you competed against) that you respected the most?
Was it Dorian?
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?, you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it
Su entrenamiento está bién documentado, así como su dieta. Pesquisa un poquito.
Melvin was too distracted to focus on becoming Great! Women & Chasing Money were huge distractions for him.
A prime flex, Kevin, Shawn would have beaten phil at his best
Stop trying to make this thread about yourself. Be quiet you old turtle.
Shawn, is the guru to blame for Dallas McCarvers untimely death?
What did you do to relax in your spare time whilst competing? Movies? Playstation?
What really happened Orville Burke?
Also:
We don't know what happened to Mustapha Muhammad, Orville Burke...etc.
Do you have an insight on bodybuilders who suddenly and suspiciously dissapeared off the radar? I am presuming due to health issues?
Shawn,
what is your opinion of Black Lives Matter? Do you support this group?
Shawn, what do you think about the dispute between NPC and IFBB amateur ? thanks in advance.
Shawn, what's your opinion of the amount of protein a bodybuilder really needs each day?
Have you spoken to Chris Cormier lately? If so, what's he up to?
Regarding how much protein a person eats has never been a preoccupation of mine back then, now or ever.
I see Chris often, he's good 💪🏽
Chris doesnt look too good on there Shawn, looks like you are both holding him upright.
...
A look into the delusional mind of Shawn Ray. Said he was going to beat Lee Haney , failed , Said he was going to beat Dorian Yates, failed , reduced to slandering Ronnie Coleman on the night he was at his best ever. So bitter ;D
Acknowledges it's fair that Ronnie beat Flex but his placing was unfair ::) one contradiction after the next , He can't compete with Ronnie on size? He didn't need to he couldn't compete with Nasser on size either and beat him multiple times , The size excuse holds no water.
Shawn you simply weren't in Lee Haney , Dorians and Ronnie's league
Just because he didn't get an "o", doesn't mean he's not in their league.
He's a dumbass conspiracy Theorist.
I never wanted that gym or any gym.
I've always thought the gym business was a "Money Pit!"
Maybe that's why he was convicted of Steaking Money from his own gym.
Things that make you go, "Hhhhhmmmm...?" ???
I am hearing great things about the Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic taking place this November. You have big shoes to fill, replacing the oldest running and largest NPC show in Hawaii, but according to the coconut wireless, you are doing a fabulous job.
And check your PM. :)
He's a dumbass conspiracy Theorist.You should have bought it so you could have banned Greg/Gary....the dude that slapped you around for trying to steal his bench between sets. ;D
I never wanted that gym or any gym.
I've always thought the gym business was a "Money Pit!"
Maybe that's why he was convicted of Steaking Money from his own gym.
Things that make you go, "Hhhhhmmmm...?" ???
I am hearing great things about the Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic taking place this November. You have big shoes to fill, replacing the oldest running and largest NPC show in Hawaii, but according to the coconut wireless, you are doing a fabulous job.
And check your PM. :)
Hopefully the judges have improved a good bit.
Here's a few questions if you have time :
1 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Successful Pro Ever? (Arnold Excluded)
2 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Tragic Pro Ever? (Titus excluded)
3 - What is your honest opinion on the pre-made ready to drink protein shakes you see on the shelves. Like Myoplex, Met Rx, Muscle Milk, etc... any protein drink already pre made. I have heard from others that these are a poor choice that the process of making them and the time of sitting on the shelf has denatured the product greatly.
Shawn what do you think about the height and weight requirements for the classic physique category ?
Personally I think that a classic aesthetic physique has nothing to do with numbers.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/1TQv36Z2KtSslwAzJFcUTaF-R09d83ghZcnKdXQMjWo.jpg?w=424&s=caec1595d355c8c88d09a25f30f644ab)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/14207756_1099849276751493_3442017206750967_o.jpg?oh=28067a3e4bc9c6bd304bf49f7004926e&oe=5A552495)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/22.jpg)
Shawn, when you were competing, have you ever stuffed your posing trunk with a sock?
Dude, I'm sure someone else already bought it.
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
Ferrigno and aceto working with cormier now?
obviously i like all of them more, but based on how shows are judged i'm not sure any of them beat phil
phil doesn't have any bodyparts that can be considered lagging and he is always well conditioned
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Shawn, what's your opinion of the amount of protein a bodybuilder really needs each day?
Have you spoken to Chris Cormier lately? If so, what's he up to?
Welcome back shawn. Always nice to have a pro talking to us "youngsters" at getbig. How do u think u would do in todays open class? A prime shawn vs a prime dexter, who takes it?? (: and do u think nasser should have won in 97?
Do you agree with the general consensus around here that today's bodybuilders are worse than those of the 90s?
Just a 3rd party opinion here,- Probably because
3, its Getbig
My 2 cents, but I believe that you're a minority. Even Shizzo is more 'amusing'
Anyway, I respect your different opinion.
Like wise I respect what you have to say.
Though that idiot shizzo & the absolute drivel he posts I cant stand
clearly many others also cant stand him & are always asking for him to be banned again
Ha - opinions we've all got them.
Like wise I respect what you have to say.
Though that idiot shizzo & the absolute drivel he posts I cant stand
clearly many others also cant stand him & are always asking for him to be banned again
Ha - opinions we've all got them.
Hey Shawn ....good to have you back..you're a legend!....
I was at the 2001 Olympia and you looked fantastic...I had you for second place...no way Levrone beat you...I was happy that I got to see you in your last show...
I was attending the Olympia press conference as well and you seemed to be in a really foul mood....I remember you got into an argument with a female judge after she criticized your physique and said "Shawn, you always think you should win but your physique hasn't changed in years"....you then pointed out that her statement was proof that she was biased against you and she was removed as a judge..what are your feelings about that incident?
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat...who was that guy again? and whatever happened to him?>..he pretty much disappeared after that
Thanks for coming back Shawn
shawn,
what do you think of this guy?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=491677.0;attach=533009;image)
Looks better than a few board posters here.
Neither Shawn or Melvin will even acknowledge the question about whether they are related. What does this tell us? Well, Melvin Goodrum would like to boast he is related to a pro. He posted recently that he was going to speak with Shawn about some current issue. Made me wonder how he got Shawn's phone number. Melvin stated a few times that he was related to a professional bodybuilder. Could be where he got so much insider info in the past. So why keep this relationship a secret? Goodrum doesn't benefit by keeping this secret. Shawn might be embarrassed to be related to the resident buffoon. Whatever the reasons they are serious. They should both come out of the closet so to speak. Both have responded to posts I made in this thread but didn't address the relationship question. I mean, why wouldn't Shawn state clearly that he is definitely NOT related to Melvin Goodrum if he wasn't? That strongly suggests that he is related. Otherwise he wouldn't hesitate to deny it. Melvin can't admit it because he is committed to not revealing that fact. So their lack of a response or acknowlegment is a confirmation that they are, indeed, related.
NewsFlash:
I wasn't in a Foul Mood until the Judge, Late DeShay Ebert revealed Oublically what she thought Privatekt. She was from Texas a "Ronnie Coleman Loyalist" who believed he was unbeatable.
She pled her case and got herself Removed. I took no Formal Action to that end. Once she spoke, he opportunity to judge unbiased is what got her Canned! All I did was shed light on her Bias Opinions that would affect more than just me on the Olympia stage.
I have no idea bout you're Cat Story.
Shawn, what are some of the highlights of your career as a bodybuilder?
What are the things you're most proud of in your life, both in bodybuilding and in general?
Welcome back shawn. Always nice to have a pro talking to us "youngsters" at getbig. How do u think u would do in todays open class? A prime shawn vs a prime dexter, who takes it?? (: and do u think nasser should have won in 97?
Do you agree with the general consensus around here that today's bodybuilders are worse than those of the 90s?Yes. Stevie Wonder can see that from here👍🏽
I win.
No. Nasser 2nd, Dorian 3rd me 1st in 1997
Do many pro bodybuilders have cats?
Like the one Andre is talking about, the BB:er who used to talk about his cat.
How in the fuck would I know if bodybuilders like cats, I own a dog.
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat
You should have bought it so you could have banned Greg/Gary....the dude that slapped you around for trying to steal his bench between sets. ;D???
So is this "Shawn Ray" a gimmick or not? If your the real deal. What was it like knowing this guy was always going to best you, even when his arms where fucked up.
It's really Shawn.....also, even on his best day Dorian Yates looked like a bag of smashed assholes. He almost singlehandedly destroyed the sport.
we just need Lee Haney to sign up now....
It's really Shawn.....also, even on his best day Dorian Yates looked like a bag of smashed assholes. He almost singlehandedly destroyed the sport.
Hahaha. Oh man, that's too much. So your admitting that Dorian had great power in that he single handedly destroyed the sport?
Shame, I expected better than this.....
nope, the internet destroyed bodybuilding....
Hahaha. Oh man, that's too much. So your admitting that Dorian had great power in that he single handedly destroyed the sport?
Yes. Stevie Wonder can see that from here👍🏽
He set the standard because he was Mr O every year. Dude looked like a huge, grainy lump of shit. Everyone destroyed their physiques chasing him.Oddly, had Flex or Shawn won in 93 (or 98) we may have not seen the guts and extreme weight. Or Dex, Vic or Dennis Wolfe in 2007.
Shizzo also made fun of gymrats cancer and a war veteran.
Its simple, back in the days before the internet people didn't realise what a seedy filthy disgusting underbelly lay below the glitz and glamour of the pro bodybuilding image portrayed in the magazines.Yep.
Its simple, back in the days before the internet people didn't realise what a seedy filthy disgusting underbelly lay below the glitz and glamour of the pro bodybuilding image portrayed in the magazines.
The funny thing though - if you talk to a lot of crossfit people, people in other sports like MMA, etc - they are where we were over a decade ago realizing how prevalent drugs are in these things.The problem with them is, is that with a weight-training/bodybuilding background one can clearly see that they are not. Add in the internet, if a person still cannot tell, then I guess these folks still leave cookies out for Santa Claus as well.
Its amazing to see so many CF cult people think the top CF people are clean.
No.
We are not related.
I hope this helps you sleep better.
Shawn is 1g of test per day excessive?
By comparison to what? ::)
By comparison to what? ::)
ok Shawn,
1g of test per day compared to what you used to take.
Shawn,
Since you like to portray yourself as one who can speak on topics outside of bodybuilding, lets see if there is any depth to your claim:
1) What is your opinion of the systematic subjugation and consequent disenfranchisement of African Americans by the government,
particularly the current presidential administration?
(and if you don't like that)
2) What is your opinion of the widespread revisionism of our American heritage and culture with the removal and impugning of confederate monuments across the nation?
actually, you are here to improve your somewhat faded brand.
MD gave you exposure that you only have a fraction of now.
shame..
I am not surprised by your dodge (on the drugs) or your lack of knowledge or opinion on the non-bodybuilding questions.
You are considered smart in bodybuilding circles, which if you haven't figured it out, is a rather low bar.
He set the standard because he was Mr O every year. Dude looked like a huge, grainy lump of shit. Everyone destroyed their physiques chasing him.
actually, you are here to improve your somewhat faded brand.
MD gave you exposure that you only have a fraction of now.
shame..
I am not surprised by your dodge (on the drugs) or your lack of knowledge or opinion on the non-bodybuilding questions.
You are considered smart in bodybuilding circles, which if you haven't figured it out, is a rather low bar.
why the fuck would he answer the gear q's here?
he wouldn't answer them in that gear interview he did with Kev and Dorian for some mag a few years ago, so whiat makes you think he'd talk about here?
Hey dumbass, you're on a Bodybuilding Board!
I promise I won't come to McDonalds and evaluate you're Burger Flipping Skills✌🏽
Hey dumbass, you're on a Bodybuilding Board!
I promise I won't come to McDonalds and evaluate you're Burger Flipping Skills✌🏽
I've heard that before about 'Vince B', but I'm not that surprised by his (or 'his') request
Cheap Vino Roso is winning again ::)
Shawn, as you can tell, Getbig has become a bastion of racial topics, particularly discussing Black people.
What do you make of this?
No your thoughts are still dominated by Dorian Yates kicking your ass year-in-year-out.
You still evaded the question who was better in bed? Crackpot Karen the snitch or the " Dime-piece " tranny " Sasha?
I don't know about their red wines, but they have some excellent white wines in Down Under
Hey Shawn - Cedric and Rhoden both have the structure and capability to take an olympia, whats holding them back? Whaty cant they get it together for the show?What's holding Rhoden back is his back. What's holding Cedric back is himself.
Shawn, as you can tell, Getbig has become a bastion of racial topics, particularly discussing Black people.
What do you make of this?
and unpatriotic attention whores who kneel for their countries national anthem , who are spoilt brats with massively inflated overpriced salaries who actually contribute nothing to society
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.
Yea, me and Shawn are not related. Not sure where you got that idea Vince Basile. Hope you haven't dwelled on it for years... ;D
Wrong -- The judges placed him 1st Thus setting the standards
Dorian wasn't a judge - just a competitor.
Blame the judges - Not Dorian.
LOL at this thread getting shorter. Guess Sean still has the ability to mod threads. ::)
Nevermind, Ron is on....maybe he'll swing by the super secret mod board and check out the threads down there. :D
Shawn, 1970 Mr. Canada, Vince Basile, rigged the competition by picking his own judges.
My question is this:
Should Mr. Basile have become Mr. Canada if he picked his own judges?
I have the trophy and am proud to hold the title. I was surprised that I won.
Because you picked your own judges. Of course you won. ::)
Nevermind, Ron is on....maybe he'll swing by the super secret mod board and check out the threads down. Getting posts deleted.
Has Ron confirmed that this is actually Shawn?
Chris doesnt look too good on there Shawn, looks like you are both holding him upright
No he's not in their league because they all won multiple contests NOT just multiple Olympias , Shawn 2 pro win
Neither Shawn or Melvin will even acknowledge the question about whether they are related
Racial topics have been the hot topic on getbig for many years, even before this NFL stuff started to happen
I was attending the Olympia press conference as well and you seemed to be in a really foul mood....I remember you got into an argument with a female judge after she criticized your physique and said "Shawn, you always think you should win but your physique hasn't changed in years
Goddamn you Ron lol He's a big boy
Some posts are getting deleted because either they are too stupid or hostile to all with dumb statements, or just not relevant. This isn't a screw you thread. Or a fuck you place. Shawn has not asked me anything, as he is emceeing right now out of the country. But multiple IMs to me from people who enjoy bodybuilding or building up threads are concerned over some of you that just try to destroy things. Won't happen. So stop with the crap. Ask thoughtful question, not attack on something from 20+ years ago over and over again because you have an agenda.I have no "agenda", Ron, would like to see some other things addressed that would help all of us enjoy the board more that seem to be put off. >:(
Yes, this is Shawn. Others want to post too, but because of 3 or 4 idiots, why waste their time when these guys like to ruin things. I am working on others now that MD (in their contract, it stated can't post on other boards) and others are not as strong willed as before.
Just saw Chris at the Olympia - he looked fine, and judging by some pics that he showed me (as he has done for 20+ years), he is doing great.
Shawn was top 5 for 13 years at the Olympia contest. Smart moves in all. He should of won at least once, if not for the domination of the press and more (we did not have the internet back, so you only saw some of these guys a few times a year... aka Dorian the Shadow...)
Seriously - who cares. They are not. But once was enough - other posts get deleted.
Since the beginning in the 1990s, this was been somewhat an open board. I am not a PC person. Racial topics, as long as they were intelligent and not plain stupid, were topics that we all discussed. Even Politics, aka its own board.
I was there too... and Shawn was 100% right. That female judge said at the press conference - you look the same each year. That was crap. You should and ONLY judge a competitor on the day of the contest, not what you think if they improved or not. Judge them on how they look against the other competitors that day only. That judge was removed after her comments, rightfully so, by the Head Judge at that time.
You guys play nice or you play alone, it's that simple!And here I just gave you props for having the nuts to go back and forth with the fellas here and now you're threatening to quit.....already. ;D
Respect or Ignore, everything else is just shit.
I'm trying to engage but trust me, I can Watch instead it's as simple as that.
Don't push me cause I'm close to the Edge.... I'm trying not to lose my Head!
It's like a Jungle sometimes
You guys play nice or you play alone, it's that simple!
Respect or Ignore, everything else is just shit.
I'm trying to engage but trust me, I can Watch instead it's as simple as that.
Don't push me cause I'm close to the Edge.... I'm trying not to lose my Head!
It's like a Jungle sometimes
Respect is earned ;) and this Thunderdome
perhaps but you take this who was better shit over the top and ruin threads with your bullshit.There's a 1700+ page thread somewhere for his antics
perhaps but you take this who was better shit over the top and ruin threads with your bullshit.
Take that shit up with Shawn who's claiming he won in 97 ;)
Take that shit up with Shawn who's claiming he won in 97 ;)
your a weirdo who loves arguing moot points for hundreds of pages, and I am sure you will ruin this thread too if Ron doesn't step in
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.
It's "should have."
Should've = Should have
"Should of" is grammatically incorrect.
"Shawn Ray should have won once" or "Shawn Ray should've won once."
Should HAVE, Ron. ;)
It's "should have."
Should've = Should have
"Should of" is grammatically incorrect.
"Shawn Ray should have won once" or "Shawn Ray should've won once."
Fuck of!
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.
Hey Shawn ....good to have you back..you're a legend!....
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat... he pretty much disappeared after that
Well, does this suggest that the judging process at the Olympia sucks? Otherwise the many are mistaken.
In my opinion the judging process and selection sucks and will lead to bad results. History has proven
that I am right. For example, they use 3 rounds. Ben Weider tried to get bodybuilding into the Olympic games
so used a judging system used by other sports. He ignored the excellent system used by NABBA at their Mr Universe
contests. The rounds were not judged by placings but by points in the IFBB. 1980 revealed what happened using this system.
Too many 20 out of 20 scores were awarded in all rounds effectively making many of the scores irrelevant. Only the
scores that separated the competitors made a difference.
The posedown was a chance to correct what some judges voted for. Again, this allowed the results to change at
the last minute. Since people talked to judges and they talked among themselves this allowed some to influence
the scores. Thus we have seen corruption happening in many of the contest.
Shawn, what did the man's cat do to upset you?
Do you like the film, the nightmare on elm Street?
Also, sorry for my English, I'm not from america
Shawn, what about that cat?
Why were you upset with him for talking with his cat?
Did you make him disappear?
Im also trying to find out if Shawn ever stuffed his posing trunk with a sock (like Levrone).Maybe he stuffed it with a cat?
Maybe he stuffed it with a cat?
The super rare case of delts almost being too big.
The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"
He really seems to dislike cats. :'( :'( :'(
Vince Gironda was wearing leopards speedos :P
Denying isn't proof. You have to reveal who you are related to. Obviously no pro wants it known that he is related to you!
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!
My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!
We need more advices on cats and almonds.
Help us Shawn!
Semantics.
Hello Shawn. Quick question....I remember in the late 80's watching an episode of American Muscle Magazine on ESPN....in which you did an offseason training session with Sean Jenkins. I knew Sean from back east. I remember him as a good guy. Anyway...did you guys actually train together at some point? Or was that only for the episode. Something Lou Zwick thought up? Anyway....just curious. Thank you for posting up on this board. Much appreciated.
Shawn, what's the biggest mistake that top NPC guys make that prevents them from going pro?
No Facts
Facts it appears you either don't like or can't handle
Had flex wheeler or Shawn won your be fine with that no doubt
So when the judges vote how you want it to go They've got it Right
And when they don't they've got it wrong.... ::)
Lighten up Francis. Are you Dorian's mother or something? ;D
The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"they dont need to buy judges, judges are on a nice cushy expenses paid trip and dont want to rock the boat, the Olympia has always been judged on reputations and momentum going into the show, not on the condition and quality of each athlete on the day.
At the 1990 Olympia I overheard Robert Kennedy say you just didn’t have the back to pull off the win. What did you do to fix that? That was one of the greatest improvements I've ever seen.
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The super rare case of delts almost being too big.yup...but I think Dillet had him beat in the 2 big department his Delts were insane :o :o :o
Trying to compete at levels higher than their prepared for too soon.
Trying to get too big without building Quality first.
From them comparison pics A close callyup Shawn has a better flow too his physique classic shades of old school lines too boot with the ab/seratus tie ins etc, Phil's ridiculous muscle roundness though his Quads, arms, shoulders and crazy BDB has the whao factor on a prime ray...ether way imo it's a close call
Yes Phil is larger - Shawn has better lines
Again in those comparison pics Shawn has the better all round physique
All things considered
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.too each their own Vince, I see in that comparison Phil's shoulders over powering his chest, and sub par abs in relation too Shawn's version of the MM, Phil's definitely bigger and fuller but imo Shawn is more complete and equally as conditioned
Phil set the Bar for others to follow.jesus...the size of heaths head... :o :o :o...
So far no one can catch him.
Dexter
Kai
Rhoden
Ramy
All 2nd to Phil.
Anyone else to stop this guy will have to match him from the BACK or it's on to #8 for Phil
Phil set the Bar for others to follow.
So far no one can catch him.
Dexter
Kai
Rhoden
Ramy
All 2nd to Phil.
Anyone else to stop this guy will have to match him from the BACK or it's on to #8 for Phil
phildo doesn't look that impressive in that picture..just a blob of massexactly huge arms and delts and a huge head...that's it.
they dont need to buy judges, judges are on a nice cushy expenses paid trip and dont want to rock the boat, the Olympia has always been judged on reputations and momentum going into the show, not on the condition and quality of each athlete on the day.
Yeah 1998 Mr Olympia contradicts that notion real quick , Ronnie had NO momentum or reputation going into that show , in fact it was a forgone conclusion it was Flex's show. Same could be said for Dorian's 2nd place in 1991 he came out of no where to give Haney a real run for his money. I admire your confidence in your opinion but unless you back it with facts it's still nothing more than an opinion.
How the Olympia was fixed - Give Pete a Chance - Brief Article
Flex , Feb, 2002 by Peter McGough
It was shortly after 2:25 PM on Saturday, October 27, at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino Events Center in Las Vegas. The prejudging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest had just concluded and Jim Manion looked with horror at the score sheets he had collected from the IFBB judging panel. As NPC chairman and head of the IFBB judges committee, Manion couldn't believe his eyes. Jay Cutler had won both the muscularity and symmetry rounds, and he led defending champ Ronnie Coleman by two rounds to nil.
Manion rushed from the auditorium in search of Wayne DeMilia, IFBB Pro Division chairman and promoter of the IFBB Mr. Olympia contest. DeMilia went pale, instantly realizing, as Manion had done earlier, that this was not meant to be. This was Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia contest and a Weider-contracted athlete -- namely Coleman -- had to win. Cutler had ceased to be a Weider athlete shortly after the 2000 Mr. Olympia. DeMilia and Manion both knew that something had gone horribly wrong, that once Joe Weider learned his man was second, he would go ballistic and there would be hell to pay. The duo promptly left for the hotel suite that acted as IFBB base of Olympia operations.
As they walked through the door of the suite, the phone rang, and DeMilia picked it up to hear the well-known twang of Joe Weider. Joe had already heard that Coleman was marooned in second place and he demanded the circumstances be changed in order for his man to win. Later that evening, under DeMiia and Manion's direction, the judging panel gave the posing and posedown rounds to Coleman, thus ensuring he, and not Cutler, was crowned 2001 Mr. Olympia. Oh, and Lou Ferrigno and Gary Coleman are twins separated at birth.
For the record, the last sentence is more credible than the contents of the first three paragraphs. Believe it or not, the fictionalized version of what went on at the judging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest has been spun in certain quarters by some presenting themselves as insiders. Here are the facts. 1. Joe Weider plays no part in deciding who is. judged Mr. Olympia. At the time of the prejudging, he was in fact at one of his residences in Las Vegas and was not even aware that Coleman's crown had been in jeopardy until after the event.
2. If the reality was that a Weider man had to win the Olympia, why would the judges have given Cutler the first two rounds, thereby giving themselves a problem to sort out later?
3. The truth is that Coleman was off at the prejudging but was sharper at the evening show, and his posing was much more outgoing and aggressive than Cutler's. Therefore, the defending champ winning the posing and posedown rounds is entirely believable. (Coleman actually won the contest because his winning margins in the final two rounds were greater than Cutler's in the first two rounds.)
4. Leaving aside the opinion that a bodybuilding contest (i.e., the assessment of who has the best body) is really decided during the first two rounds, current judging criteria holds that all four rounds have equal value. So, again, Coleman's manner of victory is entirely understandable, if a bit unorthodox. You can make an argument that, in the end, the posedown should not decide the Mr. Olympia contest, but that's a question of the process needing modification and irrelevant to the judging format that existed on
October 27, 2001.
5. In a subjective sport like bodybuilding, conjecture will always reign that a contest has been rigged, especially if there is an unpopular result. For an Olympia contest to be fixed, 13 judges have to be in cahoots and conspire to control the result. Over the years, rumormongers have ventured that Olympias have been manipulated, but in all those years, no member of those judging panels (many of whom have left or broken away from bodybuilding in acrimonious circumstances) have blown the whistle. The reason: There is no whistle to blow.
6. The bodybuilding community isn't exactly known to be a great keeper of secrets. Rumors of a hangnail become an amputated leg once the story goes around gyms for a couple of days. I've been involved in this sport for decades. If there had been corruption in the judging of Mr. Olympia, I'd have heard about it long before now.
7. History shows there is no Weider bias in the judging of an Olympia. When Ronnie Coleman first won the Mr. Olympia in 1998, he was not a Weider athlete and had not been considered as a candidate for one until he won the O. Shortly before the 1991 Mr. Olympia, reigning champ Lee Haney severed his ties with Weider and signed a megabucks contract with Twinlab. The rumor was that Joe Weider would not "allow" him to win the O. Another Weider athlete, Dorian Yates, entered his first Olympia that year and pushed Haney all the way. If Weider bias ruled at the Olympia, Yates would have been named the 1991 Mr. Olympia.
Stop press: As this column was completed, news broke of Jay Cutler's notification that his Olympia drug-test sample had tested positive. (This was before all tests at the 2001 Olympia were declared null and void. See page 118 for full details.) Again, the rumor mill hummed to the tune that the Weider/IFBB combine, not content with simply "fixing" the Olympia, was trying to fix Cutler, period. When the drug tests were declared null and void, the same uninformed cynics postulated that the IFBB, fearing legal intervention, had decided to close the issue down. Totally untrue. The reasons for the tests being declared null and void are completely due to the facts stated on page 118.
The bottom line is that neither the Weider company nor the IFBB had anything to gain by derailing Cutler's bandwagon. With Cutler nearly dethroning Coleman, DeMilia was almost salivating at the prospect of a new young contender who could be promoted as a legitimate threat for the 2002 Olympia crown. Any attempt to undermine Cutler undermined the sport, the IFBB and the Olympia contest. As it is, the IFBB followed due process and did the right thing. But, for some people, that's kinda boring.
Shawn, whatever happened to Edgar Fletcher? He dropped out of sight. Have you talked to him at all, and if so how does he feel about not getting his pro card, yet seeing the mediocrity now that have earned their pro cards?
I never knew Edgar petsonnaly. I think he lived in Pittsburgh?Did Edgar Petsonnaly have a pet of some sort? Maybe a cat?
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat... he pretty much disappeared after that
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.
I DEFINITELY agree with that, Ron. My theory is that Shawn was perceived as an arrogant pretty boy and had a nice Weider contract so he really didn't have to compete more than once a year....I really think there was a lot of jealousy toward Shawn and he was downgraded in judging (maybe unconsciously) because of that....He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.
so my entire theory is wrong based on 2 Olympia results?
Nice logic...
this version of Phil Heath beats anything Shawn has ever brought and Shawn did bring some fantastic packages in his time.
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.
I DEFINITELY agree with that, Ron. My theory is that Shawn was perceived as an arrogant pretty boy and had a nice Weider contract so he really didn't have to compete more than once a year....I really think there was a lot of jealousy toward Shawn and he was downgraded in judging (maybe unconsciously) because of that....
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.Obviously a lower level. Heath's physique doesn't flow like Shawns. Overpowering Arms and delts, make his chest look small and bunched up. Not to mention his narrow clavicles.
A few comparisons of a prime Ray vs a Prime Heath...who would win, I definitely give the FDB, Ab/Thigh,FLS and maybe the MM too Ray (more complete with a actual chest) Heaths the bigger guy with extreme muscle fullness etc and a BDB that's the trademark of his domination of his era
Obviously a lower level. Heath's physique doesn't flow like Shawns. Overpowering Arms and delts, make his chest look small and bunched up. Not to mention his narrow clavicles.
Oops.. Flex Wheeler ;D
Shawn has narrow clavicles as well not as evident because he's not 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag like PhilI think that pic is misleading because Dorian is squared up, whereas Shawn has his shoulders fwd and in for that pose. Try it an see how you look compared to be squared up relaxed.
Trying to get too big without building Quality first.This single statement is bound to make some heads explode!
This single statement is bound to make some heads explode!
I asked for explanation but it was ignored, Shawn has ignored every question I have asked, thats why I think it isnt him...
I think that pic is misleading because Dorian is squared up, whereas Shawn has his shoulders fwd and in for that pose. Try it an see how you look compared to be squared up relaxed.
A better comparison would be both Shawn and Dorian in the front relaxed pose
Shawn has narrow clavicles as well not as evident because he's not 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag like PhilExactly my point, it doesn't flow, not balanced like Shawns physique.
I worked out with JJ Marsh and it was rumored that he & Sean were cousins. I never trained with Sean outside that episode.
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.
Anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding knows that Shawn is beating Phil in that back double bicep pose.
Although Phil is bigger, Shawn has WAY more detail in his back and hamstrings. Phil's shoulders and back looks bloofy and watery; Shawns back looks like a road map.
And Phil looks absolutely atrocious in the front relaxed spread. Horrible proportions.
Shawn....who in your opinion...over the span of your entire competitive career.....was the most impressive bodybuilder you ever viewed in person? I mean...just standing there. Whether at a weigh in, pump room or in the gym. Even if the person wasnt a top competitor-placer. Very curious. Thank you.
You can't tell that from pics. Side by side on stage, Sean's perceived advantage in condition might get completely obliterated by the size difference.
Both look awesome though.
He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.
But I do agree with you.
I also wonder did any of these guys back have attorneys to negotiate their contracts, like Pros of other sports did?
He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.
But I do agree with you.
I also wonder did any of these guys back have attorneys to negotiate their contracts, like Pros of other sports did?
Not misleading Shawn has narrow clavicles
I'm pretty sure I posted those screenshots before to demonstrate this very point. Dorian was light years ahead of Shawn.
Jealous of what exactly? All of his pro wins? Oh wait ::)
Shawn was living the high life...had women trannies, cars, nice house..TV Show,,,good money rolling in...and lets face it..he was perceived as cocky and arrogant by some.....yes I think there was some jealousy
Ive already stated that Phil is bigger. But his size doesn't take away from the fact that Shawn is clearly more detailed.
I'm pretty sure I posted those screenshots before to demonstrate this very point. Dorian was light years ahead of Shawn.I wouldn't say "light years", because that denotes that he was far ahead. When he wasn't. He was heavier and wider. And taller. That's it.
Not misleading Shawn has narrow claviclesNever said he didn't have narrow clavicles, only that the pic was misleading. But thanks for posting the relaxed pics.
I wouldn't say "light years", because that denotes that he was far ahead. When he wasn't. He was heavier and wider. And taller. That's it.
Never said he didn't have narrow clavicles, only that the pic was misleading. But thanks for posting the relaxed pics.
In pics.
Side by side on stage, it might not matter.
why did my posts get deleted.
guess ND is the "guest"
;)
Seems like "The Powers that Be" do not want Shawn's thread getting derailed.
I think the pics show enough to draw a conclusion, independent if they were on stage.
They never do in that context.
hey mods
why do my posts calling ND out for his bullshit get deleted yet he can slam Shawn in this thread?
Fucking bullshit, obviously he is the "guest"
There is a photo of Shawn standing in the surf... one of the best photos I have ever seen
I asked for explanation but it was ignored, Shawn has ignored every question I have asked, thats why I think it isnt him...
Thanks for all your posts shawnGene are you high on preworkouts again?
It’s great you’re back on getbig
Plz send my wishes to Phil
I hope he recovers from his surgery well
Could you ask him to post again on here -bob chick as well?
Shawn, what do you like about my Freddy Krueger doll?
Also which is your favorite the nightmare of elm Street moviefilm?
Mine is number six, Freddy is back!!
I apologize for my bad English as I'm not American
Mine is 1. Classic!The remake is actually quite good, better backstop to freddy and more realistic
The remake is actually quite good, better backstop to freddy and more realistic
You like any other classics? Halloween? Friday the 13th? Child's Play? Hell Raiser?All of them man. Watching horrors since I'm a child. Hammer horror like slaughter high, classics like candyman, all the serial films like Friday the 13th. Only one ever freaked me out was pet cemetery, oh and the ending of the first insidious.
All of them man. Watching horrors since I'm a child. Hammer horror like slaughter high, classics like candyman, all the serial films like Friday the 13th. Only one ever freaked me out was pet cemetery, oh and the ending of the first insidious.
Same here, broskie. I always watch a few horror movies every week. I grew up watching it with my pops (hes 65); he enjoyed the old school horror classics (Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, etc). Candyman is some good stuff. Ive been watching stuff like Exorcist, Children of the Corn, Poltergeist, etc.Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Check out slaughter high, still a good watch.
And you are?someone you selectively ignore...
Yes, they do. There have been pics that have been posted online, in which a conclusion was drawn and backed up by people who were actually in the audience. Its not a perfect comparison, but you can make a good enough prediction based on pictures. It's of course, still subjective, but so is being in the audience.
Unless the pics are correctly scaled, the size difference in real life, side by side, isn't captured.
Size difference doesn't matter, as I already stated that Phil is much bigger than Shawn.
However, there is clearly a difference of detail in their backs. Shawn exhibiting greater detail. It just is. Accept it.
That's not the point.
The point was that the detail, if viewed side by side in real life, may not be able to overcome the size difference, as Phil's condition was excellent as well. But you cannot tell that context from the photos, or ever, since it didn't happen.
In terms of competition, you may be correct, that the detail may not be able to overcome the size difference. However, I disagree that Phil had excellent condition. Shawn had excellent conditioning; Phil's conditioning was decent, not excellent.
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.
At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)
In the bethere vid, he's spot on.
I shall check it out.
I also like cheesy horror movies. Check out "Slumber Party Massacre, Leprachaun, Dead-Alive, Piranha, Sleepaway Camp.
Id have to look at the video, but saying someone is "spot on" is subjective. I may or may not agree depending on what I consider to be "conditioned."
Check it out see.
If you recall, what page is it on?
Oops.. Flex Wheeler ;Djesus that pic of Flex is awesome :o :o :o
It's called a parsh genius
Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Check out slaughter high, still a good watch.
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I spent about $600 on some of the Blu ray releases of Friday the 13th Blu ray collection, Halloween (scream factory release), The Fog Blu ray and They Live steel books.
(I'm a collector of ole horror movies on Blu ray plus the Toxic Avenger Blu ray film each one with rare slipcovers.
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat... ..he pretty much disappeared after that
Shawn might be in the House
But he sure is avoiding the Cathouse!
Talk about upsetting!
A cat is nothing to get upset about.
Shawn needs to be tolerant.
Why did he make that guy disappear though?
Merely for talking to his cat?
Perhaps there were things?One must assume such!
Shawn
besides Chris Cormier, are you friends with other BB's from the 90's?
were you friends with Nasser or was there bad blood between you guys?
also, do you still train with Boyer Coe? I remember that BFO , you had the living legend Boyer spot you on incline bench
Dear Shawn, do you consider yourself the founding father of the white towel trend?
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Shawn has ignored my question, but don't know why??
but probably ignored because it involves both Dexter and Jays legacy.
Shawn would have had 18-19 Mr.O appearances.
Here is the question Again...
Shawn...If u had stayed in the Olympia instead of retiring in 2001, Could you be the Mr. O winner in 2006 and 2007?
You tell me. ::)
Nobody wore it better 8)
Nobody wore it better 8)
Shawn - who picked out these outfits for you and Lee for this thing?
:D
Were you ever approached by creeps with weird requests, such as hotel room wrestling matches, selling underwear and worn gym panties.
Chris & I are cool. We have lunch and watch football. I don't keep in close contact with the guys I competed against we were not close back in the day and have Real Lives outside of the sport with lots of different interests.
My friends were not bodybuilders but guys I grew up with from grade school to college and beyond. Boyer happened to work out at the same gym I did but that gym changed ownership and it was 16 years ago.
I meet up with Boyer every so often for lunch.
I never knew Nasser, he lived in San Diego and I lived in Orange County. Only saw him a couple times a year if that at various shows.
WOW GH15 IS HERE!!!
No.
That would be Franco. :o
Sean welcome to getbig. Great to have someone like you here. Hope the idiots here don't scare you off like what happened with other pros who have come and gone.
Shawn was here before, brother. He only left because he was paid $$ to go to another (weaker) board.
The best and worst compliment I can pay to Shawn is that he belonged here back then - and he still displays the same outspoken nature that tends to work well with this board.
One thing you all need to be aware of is that historically, Shawn is one of the only pros I have ever seen use his mod powers. Make of that what you will. I'm just saying - don't be surprised if the house is cleaner (perhaps to some people's chagrin), from now on.
Shawn was here before, brother. He only left because he was paid $$ to go to another (weaker) board.
The best and worst compliment I can pay to Shawn is that he belonged here back then - and he still displays the same outspoken nature that tends to work well with this board.
One thing you all need to be aware of is that historically, Shawn is one of the only pros I have ever seen use his mod powers. Make of that what you will. I'm just saying - don't be surprised if the house is cleaner (perhaps to some people's chagrin), from now on.
Great abs here :o
Yes all got great midsections
Phil Hill looks enormous in that pic.
The only thing that held Phil Hill back in the pros was the fact that he was only 1 Heath wide.
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?
A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.
One which board is he a mod, or only for this thread?
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?
A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?
A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.
If you honestly think that, quit thinking, you're a fucking moron.
If that's a troll, thumbs up.. it's very amusing.
Dear Shane Ray,
Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer questions for us here. I have a few that I would like to put to you, if I may:
1. As my blue stars indicate, I am a serious competitor. My current coach (former IFBB pro), however, has put me on a rather dubious regime and I could really do with your advice. The precariousness of incorporating almonds into one's diet has already been mentioned earlier, but I must respectfully press you for elaboration here. I'm currently taking both almonds and DNP as part of my weekly diet, but I'm uncomfortable with this due to the inherent risks involved with the dosing of both. I'd like to ask you if it would be wiser to switch them out for a more low-risk combination - specifically, clenbuterol and pistachios? I love the taste of pistachios and have often devoured entire bags of them in one sitting, with no observable side effects. Good idea to make the switch?
2. If you could travel back in time to when Dorian Yates was still an infant, what method of execution would you choose to dispatch of him?
3. I understand that you have already repudiated the allegation of you and Vince Goodrum being related in some manner; but have you considered the possibility of kinship through, perhaps, an illicit affair, sperm donation, or some other type of extramarital sexual encounter, unbeknownst to you? I ask because, aside from the uncanny physical and intellectual similarities, Vince recently made a particularly disgraceful post in which he boasted about participating in the starvation and subsequent grisly death of a cat. It's well known that you too have an irrational yet explicit detestation of all things feline - could this be reason enough to undergo a DNA test if the Getbig community agrees to fund it?
Sorry to spell your name wrong above.
Next question. Do you think Josh Leonardowiyz could win an Olympia? What advice would you give him if he wants to win? I think he has amazing potential but needs to come in leaner and more vascular.
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽
Dear Shane Ray,
Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer questions for us here. I have a few that I would like to put to you, if I may:
1. As my blue stars indicate, I am a serious competitor. My current coach (former IFBB pro), however, has put me on a rather dubious regime and I could really do with your advice. The precariousness of incorporating almonds into one's diet has already been mentioned earlier, but I must respectfully press you for elaboration here. I'm currently taking both almonds and DNP as part of my weekly diet, but I'm uncomfortable with this due to the inherent risks involved with the dosing of both. I'd like to ask you if it would be wiser to switch them out for a more low-risk combination - specifically, clenbuterol and pistachios? I love the taste of pistachios and have often devoured entire bags of them in one sitting, with no observable side effects. Good idea to make the switch?
2. If you could travel back in time to when Dorian Yates was still an infant, what method of execution would you choose to dispatch of him?
3. I understand that you have already repudiated the allegation of you and Vince Goodrum being related in some manner; but have you considered the possibility of kinship through, perhaps, an illicit affair, sperm donation, or some other type of extramarital sexual encounter, unbeknownst to you? I ask because, aside from the uncanny physical and intellectual similarities, Vince recently made a particularly disgraceful post in which he boasted about participating in the starvation and subsequent grisly death of a cat. It's well known that you too have an irrational yet explicit detestation of all things feline - could this be reason enough to undergo a DNA test if the Getbig community agrees to fund it?
Wtf are you rambling on about?
Block & Delete me please✌🏽
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!Josh winning the Olympia is like Ulisses Jr turning IFBB pro and winning the Arnold Classic in Columbus, on his first try. And I think Ulisses Jr has a better physique.
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽
He is too slik for you. One of the best getbig scholars.Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.Look, you should know better than to take time out of Sugar Shawn Shane's day to a ask complicate aged asinine questions.
Shawn,
What was your favorite old-school workout clothing style?
And Larry Scott / Chris Dickerson / Dexter Jackson are Genetic Freaks Then ?
The ones made by the company that paid him the most.Must be NPC Wear. Where he and Milamar Flores (at the time) did a photoshoot together.
J
And Larry Scott / Chris Dickerson / Dexter Jackson are Genetic Freaks Then ?Josh is not comparable to those guys in their Time.
Shawn please ask Phil Cheath to give you all of his Sandows and prize money to you as you are a bazillion times more deserving.
It helps if you get you're Facts Straight:
Classic example of an Idiot who knows nothing of what he speaks. It's clowns like you that keep me coming back to share the GOSPEL "Truth" with Fans who are easily mislead by out right Lies:
Watch and weep.
School is out✌🏽
Josh is not comparable to those guys in their Time.
Next✌🏽
Still hang out with Dennis, Shawn?Yes.
Or that Milo guy? Fucker hooked up with my gal after we broke up. So much better looking. What can you do, right?
Dear Mr. Ray, it's no secret that there is some bad blood between yourself and gentleman Lee Priest. Could you elaborate on what started it, given that you are both ambassadors of this sport?
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..
He said he didn't want to do what it took to get to the next level. Although Jones took "supplements" I assume, I wonder how he still got into the Police force.same way Ronnie did I suppose..
Are you asking about this guy? Richard Jones?no there was a middleweight in the 90's he trained with,,if this question interests him maybe he will answer it...
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Dear Mr. Ray, it's no secret that there is some bad blood between yourself and gentleman Lee Priest. Could you elaborate on what started it, given that you are both ambassadors of this sport?
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..
His last attempt at Nationals landed him in the hospital from dehydration. He quit after that, got married and had another kid then moved to Georgia and opened a Anytime Fitness Gym in Lawrenceville. He's a Trainer with his wife & son, happy and healthy. :o
Are you asking about this guy? Richard Jones?
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no there was a middleweight in the 90's he trained with,,if this question interests him maybe he will answer it...
Shawn! You seem like you are quite full of yourself! Like u see yourself as a celebrity of sorts? You’re a nobody! The average person has no clue who u are-a soft pretzel is more famous than you!
Did u envision all the forum members bowing to you and praising you?
Why don’t u answer everyone’s questions?
You’re a fat old fossil-no one even cares about the dumb interviews you do
bad advice from his guru?
why does shawn dodge every question about phil heath and where he would place in the 90's?im not sure Earl I've asked him a couple of times, a prime Kevin, a prime Flex a prime Ray vs a prime Heath...
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Do you think a certain bodybuilders have an unrealistic approach to the internet in that they want everyone to like them? and get riled up about nobodies criticising them, what advice would you give if it was your son? as even the most popular stars in the world take Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez they sell out hundred of thousand ticket tours in minutes which reflects how much people like they're shit but make no mistake their online presence is riddled with hate and trolls.
Don't you think this reflects badly on their IQ? Or is this an emotional growth issue.
Shawn, I see some people on here throwing little stones at you and you selectively engage with those who are after a constructive debate and ignore the idiots such as Be There.
Do you think a certain bodybuilders have an unrealistic approach to the internet in that they want everyone to like them? and get riled up about nobodies criticising them, what advice would you give if it was your son? as even the most popular stars in the world take Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez they sell out hundred of thousand ticket tours in minutes which reflects how much people like they're shit but make no mistake their online presence is riddled with hate and trolls.
Don't you think this reflects badly on their IQ? Or is this an emotional growth issue.
im not sure Earl I've asked him a couple of times, a prime Kevin, a prime Flex a prime Ray vs a prime Heath...
bad advice from his guru?
Your thin skin looked great on stage, but in life you need a thick skin
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."
Afraid of a brother that speaks his mind? :)
Afraid of a brother that speaks his mind? :)
Hi Benny
Shawn! You seem like you are quite full of yourself! Like u see yourself as a celebrity of sorts? You’re a nobody! The average person has no clue who u are-a soft pretzel is more famous than you!
Did u envision all the forum members bowing to you and praising you?
Why don’t u answer everyone’s questions?
You’re a fat old fossil-no one even cares about the dumb interviews you do
You're too much of a dumb fuck to understand my words, ask your parents for a better brain
Hi Benny
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"ok well thanks for addressing the question, but with due respect it wasn't a "what" if Question Shawn if was a...in your opinion...question, for most the 1990s I was arguably the best Greco wrestler in my country bar none I haven't competed in over 15 years now but the younger kids (guys in their 20s) ask me frequently how I'd do against the best wrestlers nowadays...and I answer them honestly...in my opinion...it doesn't make it a FACT...it's just my opinion.
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.
#KeepItMovin
May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.
May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.
And you didn’t mention Kevin who was one of the greatest of the 90’s and should have a been a O winner hahaobviously potential wise i do not see him there.please tell me a year when he should have won Olympia and did,t..Bit over rated tbh.
flex was a skinny ecto who destroyed himself with oil..flex would win over 90% vote on any board for being all time best bodybuilding physique on Olympia stage.
shawn, at the olympia 2000 back stage why did you refuse to give levrone a piece of the orange you had when he asked you to stop his cramps?.. >:( >:( >:(
Because he got it from a young Kai Greene...
Shawn,Good question.
One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.
If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines
That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks
Good question.
I knew that Shawn would visit the Netherlands, but I forget the date. Well, it was last weekend, so Hi Shawn, hope you liked your visit
Is Shawn Ray a sociopath or the greatest Mr.O never crowned? Speak up for yourselfdefinetly NOT the greatest Mr O never crowned
Shawn,
One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.
If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines
That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks
pro tip
turn volume control down for bits you don't want commentary
Thanks but the point is hearing the music to the posing
Loved your honesty and commentary at the Olympia. It was a breath of fresh air :)
shawn, at the olympia 2000 back stage why did you refuse to give levrone a piece of the orange you had when he asked you to stop his cramps?.. >:( >:( >:(
Shawn,
One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.
If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines
That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks
First, the Commentary is there not for the experienced & Educated but rather the Newbie and Curious watching for perhaps the 1st Time. These Broadcasts are to reach a Wider Audience than the typical die hard whom we know will tune in regardless.
Secondly, the commentary is necessary due to Music Copy Rights. When commentary is voiced over the Music the artists can't come after the Network for Monetary Royalties.
The alternative is the athletes pose to pre-purchased House Music Owned by the Network and of course then all the routines would look out of sinc and sloppy.
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
First, the Commentary is there not for the experienced & Educated but rather the Newbie and Curious watching for perhaps the 1st Time. These Broadcasts are to reach a Wider Audience than the typical die hard whom we know will tune in regardless.
Secondly, the commentary is necessary due to Music Copy Rights. When commentary is voiced over the Music the artists can't come after the Network for Monetary Royalties.
The alternative is the athletes pose to pre-purchased House Music Owned by the Network and of course then all the routines would look out of sinc and sloppy.
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.It was only an Orange, man!!!
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
There's competition but then there's also sportsmanship.A slice or two of an orange may have given Kevin an unfair advantage over Shawn. I mean, Shawn didn't have an American flag stuffed in his trunks.
I'd rather beat my opponent because I'm better, not because he got hurt or injured.
obviously potential wise i do not see him there.please tell me a year when he should have won Olympia and did,t..Bit over rated tbh.
Lol
Did you purposely post pics where Shawn is getting destroyed
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.ah yes! There’s the old Sean we all know-oh man these shows sounded brutal to compete in!! I would love to see a nfl player, or an Olympic athelete try to survive the meal prep and walking on the treadmill you guys endured! Not even navy seal training compares to how rough it sounded like u guys had it!!!
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
As opposed to polished and professional as they are normally?
Come on Shawn, even you have got to admit posing has gone down the shitter.
Dear Shawn Ray, i remember a 1995 Flex magazine article, where you reported your secrets to get ready for contest. I was a teenager then.
You gave credit to your superior diet discipline, taking suplements to stay sharp and energized for workouts, like multiminerals, multivitamins, branched-chain and free-form amino acids, and specially drinking two large glasses of water, with every meal.
We all know that without steroids you wouldn't have gone anywhere, bodybuilding wise.
My question to you is this:
Do you feel guilty for misleading a whole generation of young bodybuilders, for not telling them the truth, ruinning their dreams, of becoming competitive thongsters?
Stevie Wonder could see that.
What's you're point?
Shawn your physique was one of the few that never got bloated in the 2000s. Did you use slin and gh? If so how much compared to your competition?already said no....
please tell me what year shawn or flex should've woni dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.
Mr. Levrone won more shows than both, beat both more than he lost to them, and was runner up 4 times so you tell me what he lacked "potential wise" compared to those 2
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i dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.
i dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.
Shawn, Kevin, Flex, Cormier and their fellow competitors were the last generation of professional bodybuilders that actually looked incredible . Dorian came in and looked good for the first few years before the big guts took over. Now, with a few exceptions, they look like crap . Phil Heath is an abortion.
Shawn what do you think of the 212 class?
Would you have competed in it or would you have stayed in the open class even though your chances of winning a Mr Olympia 212 title would have been a lot better obviously?
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No I would not have competed in it as it was clear I was already the Best 212lb BBer.
I was trying to be The Best Bodybuilder, anything less would not be very appealing to me.
ah yes! There’s the old Sean we all know
Shane was great .;D
Yes. Sad too😎
Agreed.
Though, I would doubt many current people here would know that Shawn is an asshole.
No I would not have competed in it as it was clear I was already the Best 212lb BBer.
I was trying to be The Best Bodybuilder, anything less would not be very appealing to me.
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)Shawn and Dorian had thicker lats than Flex. Flex's natural taper is what gave him an illusion. Imagine if he had more lat muscle at that condition and waist size, he'd be like a more complete Brian Buchanan.
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Lee Priest was also one of the Best, like you.
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Shawn was much better
Lee had the freaky factor and more weaknesses, long torso, short legs, no chest, subpar back, even narrower than phil
out of hall of fame?kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.
ok you are right, shawn winning 2 shows while Mr. Levrone won 20 and beat shawn and flex more than he lost to them means nothing and more "wao" factor ::)
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all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.
kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.
Shawn which pro do you think retired/quit before their true potential was realized. Meaning if they had stuck to it a little bit longer their careers would have gone higher?
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all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.
Phil did look good the 1st couple of years - Quickly went all pudgy dough boy looking & as for his midsection awful.
Shawn what are your thoughts on Jose Raymond's latest youtube video in particular around the 10:30 mark and on, when his wife calls you a "Prick" and is trying to find you I guess to confront you. Why were they so mad at you? What did you say about Jose?
Dear Shane:Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.
When you took this picture, were you aware of the previous fecal developments, surrounding that cleavage?
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Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.
Do I blame Shawn? Hell no. She is the definition of a groupie.
Completely off-topic, but what's going on with your posts counter?
kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.
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all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.
Completely off-topic, but what's going on with your posts counter?It means what I have been telling you guys the entire time.
leet = 1337
Ron set that up a long time ago. Kinda funny.
It means what I have been telling you guys the entire time.
It is nerd term for elite. He named me King, now he just confirms it. 8)
Shawn what are your thoughts on Jose Raymond's latest youtube video in particular around the 10:30 mark and on, when his wife calls you a "Prick" and is trying to find you I guess to confront you. Why were they so mad at you? What did you say about Jose?
You can be honest in your criticism without getting hated by so many, but Shawn doesn't know how or he simply doesn't care...
Some of the memorabilia on the walls, is only visible with luminol.sean what is he referring to?
He looks expectant
My commentary on Jose Raymond.
Not sure what the fuss by his wife was all about?
Anyone want to help me understand?
Are we that sensitive that we can't acknowledge the Aging process?
In his own words at the Press Conference he references he's "Older, Older, Eldest."
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2017-olympia-press-conference-part-3
skipping from his prime? what does that mean? they competed against each other from 92 - 2001what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.
the fact still remains Mr. Levrone beat both more than they beat him, and that includes the beginning, middle and end of their careers so i don't know where you are getting this "no chance" at beating them during their prime condition
shawn competed once a year while Mr. Levrone competed all year, it's easy to peak for one show
all you have are your opinions which are wrong, lee priest? get outta here with your stupid biases i'll stick to the facts
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I don't do Critiques based on what others might think of me.José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.
Hence the reason I got the job. ✌🏽
José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.
José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.And still Jose Raymond has a terrible unaesthetic shape. He has no real flow, and is just a lump of muscle. Back when Phil Heath won his first two contests, David Henry could hold his own in those contests. I sincerely doubt Jose could.
Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.
Do I blame Shawn? Hell no. She is the definition of a groupie.
What I gathered from Jose's YouTube video was that you didn't talk enough about him during your live commentary.
My commentary on Jose Raymond.
Not sure what the fuss by his wife was all about?
Anyone want to help me understand?
Are we that sensitive that we can't acknowledge the Aging process?
In his own words at the Press Conference he references he's "Older, Older, Eldest."
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2017-olympia-press-conference-part-3
Shawn Derek really held his own in his first Olympia. Do you see him as the future of the 212 division or will he outgrow it?
i think shawn's legs look better, but dorian wins this shot
back is bigger, harder, more detailed look at the difference in christmas trees
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Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!! Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings
Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!! Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings
what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.
Huh?? That means Kevin is better ::)
I don’t understand how you looked at pro wins and say flex is better than Kevin but yet Shawn competed in one show year round and concluded Shawn is better than Kevin (no knock on Shawn either)
If you want to say pro shows and wins then dexter is better than all 3 cause he’s won so many Arnold’s I can’t remember and a O title
And phil also, a long with jay since they are O winners
Agree with you on thisBadar is new bad news for the sports in longer period.camel crew is rude ignorant pricks with lots of money.they not doing it for the love of the sports they doing it to make themselves look good.their head is up their ass.their controlling nature will fuck things up sooner than latter.
Jose was clearly better than ahmed - ridiculous not to compare them.
The camel crews $ has also been used to prevent a certain other bodybuilder from
Being given his pro card - As he's beaten ahmed on a few previous occasions.
And still Jose Raymond has a terrible unaesthetic shape. He has no real flow, and is just a lump of muscle. Back when Phil Heath won his first two contests, David Henry could hold his own in those contests. I sincerely doubt Jose could.How can you place Mr no legs Badar,s donkey ahmed over even unaesthetic jose without being compared. you really don't see anything wrong in it?
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.
dullian seemed to bring in the all torso/legs no arms/chest look, which is just god awfulYou re so obsessed with arms yet yours are tiny. Ya they are cut but I have seen skinny heroin addicts with arms like yours
Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!! Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings
Shawn, did you play football in high school? You seem like you could have been a good running back. Also, are you still going to support the Raiders when they’re in Vegas?
I played from 8 to 18 then I quit to pursue Bodybuilding. Turned Pro 3 years later.
Raider Fans aren't "Seasonal" we are Lifers!
Just like Pats fans. Born in southie Patriots fan for life.
Just like Pats fans. Born in southie Patriots fan for life.
what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.
Not much getting answered on here anymore
He only answers the boring stuff. I'm reading this thread before beadtime, to get sleepy.
Rings are blinding that cute little guy (I have a Boston). :D
Ronnie is bigger in those pics with more dramatic shape, but Shawn is more aesthetic with rounder muscle bellies and way better abs. Given the choice, I'd rather look like Shawn.
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.
Ronnie had sub par calves Shawns were perfectly in proportion.
And competitions are won by the calves?complete physiques should win shows, they seldom do...
complete physiques should win shows, they seldom do...
Everyone has his flaws
wrong
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Bob had one of the most pleasing physiques ever (no homo myself), but his quads, chest & arms could be better.
in comparison to what, he has perfect balance, bring his quads, chest and arms up???
Why, he would just be a bigger version of himself with imbalanced back and calves.
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.
Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.
Shawn,
I'd like some answers straight from the horses mouth and please be very honest and Thank you!
I can completely understand if you do not want to answer and plead the 5th like Lil Jon.
Lets get started!
I understand that you tried to be a genuine IFBB athletes rep many years ago making sure No Olympia athlete left without some prize money, getting health insurance and a voice heard for all top pro athletes ect...
Did you ever consider working for the NPC and or the IFBB to get them to give out Fitness related prizes as well like Golds gym memberships, exercise equipment, food and travel gift cards, airline tickets, 100lbs of protein, or whatever as long as it was fitness related prizes?
Why are all these nutritional companies so cheap with contracts and sponsorships in your opinion, do you consider yourself cheap?
Did you ever contact Tyson chicken or the starfish Tuna, Pasta companies or any other food related brand?
The organization can rake and take in all this money from competitors and only give out hand shakes, pats on the back, $10 medals and $20 trophies literally giving nothing back in terms of prizes, don't you think this is long over do in both the IFBB and NPC?
Did Sponsorship seem like looking for a needle in a haystack if you were an IFBB pro and were not signed by Weiders?
Did you ever contribute financially towards Donations, disaster relief or religious affiliates, if so which ones?
What did uncle Joe pay?
According Jean Pierre Fux he got over 10k a month, how bout Mr. Ray's Pay?
What is your real nickname Sugar? or Stingray??...according to Kevin or is it "El Chihuahua" according to Nasser-RIP-1997 MR.0
you mentioned you were not friends with Kevin backstage over a piece of orange, C'mon man...really?
u really would have Slipped from 3rd to 4th over a piece of orange?
Did you top 5 guys really think u could beat Doz if he had been a wheelchair athlete in 1997?
Torn bicep, torn tricep, torn Quad, boils with back acne, bloated distended stomach, awkward shoulders, over weight spilled over and just awful.
How many points should have been knocked off his perfect score points total round for round?
Speaking of Doz he never got any better after 1993 but you did and the judges had already seen yates at his best, 1994 yates was nothing special anymore but you were awarded 2nd. pound for pound you were the better bodybuilder, had you been 5'10 and 260lb your the winner.
What the fuck went thru your mind that night after the 1994 O when you lost but had won the show?
U also rolled your eyes in 1996 just after being announced 2nd, please elaborate on your mental thoughts when this happened?
Why were you always going after Lee Priest's sloppy seconds girlfriends like Laurie Donnelly?
Do you have a fetish for other bodybuilders ex's or just Andrew McCutcheon's aka LP?
U dirty dawg Chihuahua, Did you ever hit it with Adela Garcia?
Did you ever feel like you were a spiritual demon and not an angel of light when it comes to Personal Character, Integrity and Sportsmanship?
how long did you lease the red Lambo Diablo?
No more questions at this time Mr. Ray.
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say
4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his NPC pro card. This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine. However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour. ;D
Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY! 8)
;D ;D ;D
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!
4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his NPC pro card. This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine. However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour. ;D
Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY! 8)
;D ;D ;D
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say
X2 He's just as lame as Howard
Nah, that's interesting, if true.
3rd~Levrone~ The fact that Kevin was even allowed to compete stunned the rest of the athletes. Kevin had not paid for his IFBB Pro card which was due in Dec 2000. Kevin had not even signed the Olympia Contract to compete due in July! The IFBB ruled as late as Sunday, October 20th, that Kevin would not be allowed to compete for these reasons. Apparently Kevin was to hold a 'NO Holds Barred' Press Conference at the Mr. O and suddenly Weider allowed Kevin entrance into the show which the IFBB said they would impose the largest fine ever in this sport of $25,000.00! Kevin would compete, slight off his best of last year. Legs were considerably down, abs still good, back not thick but detailed, calves non-existent. Posing routine entertaining and a crowd favorite.
On behalf of the Peanut Gallery, I accept this award.😜
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.
Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.
Yes, from a pure competition bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie, pre gut, destroys just about anybody. But Shawn, from a purely aesthetics, balance and completeness perspective, destroys just about anybody.
a prime Ronnie was almost perfection in every area,
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Yes, from a pure competition bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie, pre gut, destroys just about anybody. But Shawn, from a purely aesthetics, balance and completeness perspective, destroys just about anybody.
this right here is your aesthetics winner brother
dont get me wrong benfatto had an awesome physique,but his look back then was way too fag gy
who's better? Bob weatherhill ;D
Bob had one of the most pleasing physiques ever (no homo myself), but his quads, chest & arms could be better.
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!Did you own a pair of grass-stained shoes?
Did you own a pair of grass-stained shoes?
Sean
On message boards you are known as “history’s most boring bodybuilder”
Do you attribute this to not getting involved in unnecessary drama? Or the fact that when you were contest prepping you were very regimented and never partied?
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!
yepwhite guys only,,lose the hair lose the look,,rusty Jefferies stayed aesthetic bald,,rest get balder and bigger'lose lines'titus looked better with hair,this guy,joe deangelis.
bob got bigger late 90s early 2000's and lost his beauty :'(
thickass waist ripped, just awful :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!
4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his IFBB pro card. This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine. However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour. ;D
Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY! 8)
;D ;D ;D
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.
Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.
Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.
Nice to see Shawn has moved away from MD to the Generation Iron Fitness Network empire!Ron Harris is a good guy.
Is the GIFN a Rothschild-based empire? I have heard that only 3 or 5 or 7 fitness outlets are not Rothschild-owned? Oh wait, never mind. That meme was referring to central banks.
When myself and Gaereth [sp?] saw Keith "Only Me" Jones at the 2007 Arnold Classic Expo at Pete Grymkowski's booth...I believe "Muscle Mafia" clothing/apparel or something like that [which Grymkowski got in trouble for spamming during the press conference ;D]...Only Me looked to be well over 600-lb. :( I believe there were comments on Getbig to the effect that he was "over 300" or "over 400", but he was almost certainly over 600. I felt badly when Gaereth [whose real name may have been something like Grant Higginbotham - positive on the last name, but not sure on the first] and myself essentially stared and pointed at him. :( I imagine both Only Me and Shawn Ray had people staring at them due to their size...but for different reasons. :(
Little did I realize at the time that within 3.5 years, Keith would be dead, most likely with his morbid obesity being a primary cause. I suppose Keith spent the final years of his life being unable to train, and likely unable to do a lot of things. Being over 300-lb must be debilitating. I can't imagine being over 600-lb.
In any case, Shawn's thread about the Shawn Ray Classic reminded me of Keith. I believe that Keith asked Shawn to guest-pose for him in 2002, basically out of the blue. Since Shawn was virtually always in shape, I think it was somewhat reasonable to think Shawn would be in contest shape, but I really think things like that should be sorted out beforehand, as well as confirmed. As it was, Shawn wasn't in horrible shape by any means, but was soft by his own standards, and Keith was upset about it.
Has that matter been discussed in this thread so far? If so, can someone please let me know roughly where it was posted in here? If not, I am going to do some searches for it now, to see if that matter was ever settled in the public eyes. These stories are eye-opening to me for a variety of reason, and as often as possible, I like to get all sides of the story. I believe that is the fair thing to do.
Nice to see Shawn has moved away from MD to the Generation Iron Fitness Network empire!
Is the GIFN a Rothschild-based empire? I have heard that only 3 or 5 or 7 fitness outlets are not Rothschild-owned? Oh wait, never mind. That meme was referring to central banks.
When myself and Gaereth [sp?] saw Keith "Only Me" Jones at the 2007 Arnold Classic Expo at Pete Grymkowski's booth...I believe "Muscle Mafia" clothing/apparel or something like that [which Grymkowski got in trouble for spamming during the press conference ;D]...Only Me looked to be well over 600-lb. :( I believe there were comments on Getbig to the effect that he was "over 300" or "over 400", but he was almost certainly over 600. I felt badly when Gaereth [whose real name may have been something like Grant Higginbotham - positive on the last name, but not sure on the first] and myself essentially stared and pointed at him. :( I imagine both Only Me and Shawn Ray had people staring at them due to their size...but for different reasons. :(
Little did I realize at the time that within 3.5 years, Keith would be dead, most likely with his morbid obesity being a primary cause. I suppose Keith spent the final years of his life being unable to train, and likely unable to do a lot of things. Being over 300-lb must be debilitating. I can't imagine being over 600-lb.
In any case, Shawn's thread about the Shawn Ray Classic reminded me of Keith. I believe that Keith asked Shawn to guest-pose for him in 2002, basically out of the blue. Since Shawn was virtually always in shape, I think it was somewhat reasonable to think Shawn would be in contest shape, but I really think things like that should be sorted out beforehand, as well as confirmed. As it was, Shawn wasn't in horrible shape by any means, but was soft by his own standards, and Keith was upset about it.
Has that matter been discussed in this thread so far? If so, can someone please let me know roughly where it was posted in here? If not, I am going to do some searches for it now, to see if that matter was ever settled in the public eyes. These stories are eye-opening to me for a variety of reason, and as often as possible, I like to get all sides of the story. I believe that is the fair thing to do.
I remember.
Keith wanted me to pose for Free as if I was there to ppse.
Not!
It was never discussed nor agreed but when all the other guys posed he assumed I would.
I told him I get Paid to Pose, he didn't want to pay and I didn't want to pose.
He talked shit after that until he died.
what was the name of that lady Sheriff from OC you dated again?
Sexual preferences are a very complex subject,, one cannot generalize.
this right here is your aesthetics winner brother
not really
men like women
women like men
a very small minority of retards who have control of the media and have the proper backing to get elected and also are in the schools (which are glorious safe spaces with no interaction with the outside world where your ideas might be challenged) want you to believe otherwise
and 80% of beauty is objective, 20% is subjective, theyve done studies etc etc
basically everything we hear from the libtard leftists is against objectivity, reality, human nature, common sense, rationality, etc etc
Well said. I can easily state that Bob Paris was a handsome, well built man but in no way would I want to be homosexual. I think men and women are hard-wired to be heterosexual but somewhere along the way, some choose to do what they want to do. And the current (since the 1960s) societal zeitgeist of if it feels good do it, makes it easier to tell nature to go fuck itself.Bob paris was a great bodybuilder. Homo or not a great physique.
Back on topic.
I think Shawn Ray possessed one of the more aesthetic physiques of his time on the dais. Like Labrada, he was probably denied a win or three due to thepoliticssexual deviancy of Schmoes. Additionally the pose down is harder on shorter men as that is where a blob like Coleman or a chiseled blob like Yates (both were excessively overbuilt) is able to look more impressive just by being "bigger". Put a lion alone on a stage and it looks commanding. Stand an African Elephant (they were originally BLACK...FACT!) and the lion is overshadowed by the larger elephant.
After all, schmoes are size-queens.
Since Shawn must have missed my previous questions, will try again with different ones :
Have you ever had any injuries over the course of your career? Were they from training?
What is the biggest mistake you see pros making today? Top amateurs? The average bodybuilder?
what was the name of that lady Sheriff from OC you dated again?
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.where was the pinched nerve? did it effect your biceps or triceps?
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.
The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.
The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.
Next question :
From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute. Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task? Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing. How you prep for it? More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?
Next question :Drinking two big glasses of water with every meal, would do magic.
From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute. Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task? Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing. How you prep for it? More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.
The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.
trouble shawn..the ego kinghaha Steve would have snapped Sean in 2 quite easily
Shawn,
How was Sasha (the Asian tranny man) in bed?
How the fuck did Nasser (gh15) know so much about your woman-man?
Why were afraid to go to Europe and compete against Doz, Kevin, Nasser, Ronnie at the grand Prix?
Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.
Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.
Cool thread. Ron, hope you get a few more pros on here.
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.
The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.
Sean
In that old video of u backing out of your garage in your red sports car-why did your brakes sound so bad? Why wouldn’t u get them fixed before filming?
Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.
where was the pinched nerve? did it effect your biceps or triceps?
Does that pinched nerve still affect you today? How did it occur?
Next question :
From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute. Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task? Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing. How you prep for it? More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?
Shawn what is your opinion on training in the morning in a fasted state?
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Wow! Sh#t got almost real.
It was in the base of my neck on the lower right side. It affected all lifting especially when I strained.
Loved it! My favorite when I was in prep mode!
Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?
What if they are the same person! :oYou just blew my mind braaah!
What if they are the same person! :o
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Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?
Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?
Can you give more details? Last time you ate at night and when you trained the next day? How long was your fasted state?
I'm already pretty racist anyway. At least this month. Just like every October. When the blacks shuttle their kids - 10-15 to a car - into our community. There will literally be a line of cars like a funeral procession waiting at the gate for it to open when someone like UPS or FedEx comes through. Then they file in and disgorge their little turds in the area, while the "mama" sits behind the steering wheel of a 15 year old beater car ("mismatched tires and the whitewall's flaking.... " ~ mixalot reference) with her hair in curls, cigarette in one hand, cell phone in the other (using it like a damn walkie talkie - at the ear to listen then holds it front of her mouth while she speaks... back to ear.. .back to mouth)... sitting there alternately yelling out the car window (as the little monkeys trample up our lawns because they never heard of using a damn sidewalk before) "HEY! WHAT THEM GIVE YOU IN DAT HOUSE OVER THERE? YOU BETTER GO BACK AND GET ME ONE"
I have taken stocking lots of fruits and peanut packs for these hordes. Though I tend to give the whiniest little crybaby in the group something extra like a pack of Now And Laters or M&Ms. Knowing damn well that when they get back in the car it is going to instigate a fight in the back seat between them all wanting it. That won't end until "mama" (or "auntie") takes it away from them and eats it right there in front of the brood. And then the whiny little bastard is going to cry and sniffle and whine all the way home over them being mean to him.
Don't worry, by my birthday in November my grass will have recovered, I will have replaced all the cracked and broken sprinkler heads in the yard that got stomped on, or dug up ("hey look whut I found whut dis is?") and my postal guy will have wiped off all the grimey hand prints from the mailbox. Life will be back to normal.
Until next October.
I, smell, pussssssssssssssssssssy!
why are you stirring the pot? maybe you want Shawn to do your dirty work?
You make a very good point.
Yes why are they not exchanging messages
Especially for GayHoe15 as shawn would be able
to back some of his competitive claims up.
why are you stirring the pot? maybe you want Shawn to do your dirty work?
how bad is the magazine industry dieing? do you think they can recover?
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?
I doubt the small to medium sized niche content will survive in real print form for much longer. And even then, the bodybuilding mags face a special challenge. With the bigger magazines and some smaller ones that skew toward the collectible hobbies, repackaging of old content has become a big thing. They reissue some stuff as ebooks, they offer pay access to their archives, etc..... Also a lot of money is still made from folks that just never bothered to stop their subscriptions, places like doctor's offices, etc.....
You just won't see that with bodybuilding magazines. It's a short attention span hobby meaning that a lot of the people involved are only in it for a few years, and many just aren't interested in the history of it, at least to the point of paying for it. So I doubt that you'll anyone offer archives of past issues, etc..... Also since it is a young men's hobby, piracy is pretty strong. The kids just aren't paying for them much in any form anymore.
It's been a while since I looked, but even the big ones were losing subscribers at a rate of #5000 - 10000 a year the past decade, and that just continues to grow.
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?
ya its kinda depressing. I remember at age 15 going to the grocery store in the magazine isle and read FLEX and the other mag Robert Kennedys mag(i forgot the name). I would see people walk up to pick out some magazine and read. i would always hide the bodybuilder mags really fast and grab something else because i didn't want them to think i was gay. i laugh now about it. i used to buy a FLEX and put all my groceries on top of it to hide it till the lady scanned it last.Musclemag from Bob Kennedy i liked. was a good read.
Shawn, what do you think of the gh15 character that posts here on getbig claiming to have been a pro that competes against you?
Seanwell, I thought my question was going to be the one Shawn ignored.... ;D
You were known as histories most boring bodybuilder
When u eventually kick the bucket-do u feel you’ll be remembered for anything? Will u have a legacy? Or will you pass and the world won’t skip a beat?
My other question-do u have any organ damage from the stupid bodybuilding drugs u took back when u were a drug addict?
Shawn, what do you think of the gh15 character that posts here on getbig claiming to have been a pro that competes against you?
X3 great question.Shawn wont go within a million miles of answering that....
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?
yeah I miss the days of waiting in the store line with the front cover of the magazine facing my stomach so nobody would see the Greased up Muscle guy with Daisy Dukes and sunglasses training with another greased up freaked wearing daisy dukes and sunglasses
then of course the checkout girl would have to pass the barcode over which was on the front cover, after which she would turn it over and now half my town would think I was a fucking homo
Thank god Muscle Mag started putting hot sluts on the front
yeah I miss the days of waiting in the store line with the front cover of the magazine facing my stomach so nobody would see the Greased up Muscle guy with Daisy Dukes and sunglasses training with another greased up freaked wearing daisy dukes and sunglasses
then of course the checkout girl would have to pass the barcode over which was on the front cover, after which she would turn it over and now half my town would think I was a fucking homo
Thank god Muscle Mag started putting hot sluts on the front
Oh yes. I remember early 2000s I would always buy MD. Felt so embarrassing making the walk of shame to the cashier, felt as if I was buying gay porn.
haha Yep
Exactly. It's all online now. The only reason anyone buys a magazine is their battery is dead and they have a long flight ahead of them :)
Exactly. It's all online now. The only reason anyone buys a magazine is their battery is dead and they have a long flight ahead of them :)
I always felt a little weird when others in the store saw me buy a bodybuilding magazine.
They were thibking "who's this for?".
Do I really need to get GH15 in here to own you? He continues to demolish you in every thread.
Quite the contrary
Does GH15 have to come in here and call you out on all your liars? He has continuously owned you in every thread and have proven you wrong on ALL accounts. You better hope he doesn't come in this thread and prove you wrong.
Again total opposite. He has yet to address anything he's been accused of and uses deflection in every response. And then today he comes in here with an obscure charity India that helps Street dogs and cats begging for help. Lol
*no homo here, but you two gentlemen are probably my favorite getbiggers and it pains me to see
the animus between you both. Can't you let by-gones be by-gones?
:)
Are you referring to Goodrum and Basile? ;D ;D
LOFL. No, you and ESF.
seems hes disappeared when pressed to talk to GH15.....
Maybe - or - because his show (in Hawaii) was at the weekend he might have failed to prioritise GetBig over that...?
seems hes disappeared when pressed to talk to GH15.....:)
He just stopped by briefly to pimp his Hawaii show. Guy must be desperate to make a few bucks. He won't be back.
what are your thoughts on gh15?
Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
what are your thoughts on gh15?
Yes Shawn what do you know & think of him.
This should make for interesting reading....
Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
The issue doesn't endorse or promote him, so he won't adress it.
Don't worry, Shawn. You are a luxury yacht, in a sea filled with losers.
This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?
Don't worry, Shawn. You are a luxury yacht, in a sea filled with losers.
Don't trust anyone here.
This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?
This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?
Shawn are you saying you dont know who gh15 is ?
or you've never heard of him ?
He constantly makes reference to you & competing against you
Also claims he know exactly what every IFBB Pro used & uses
Makes some strong claims he does.
Personally & a lot of other posters on here think he's full of crap
& is a known scam artist.
I tend to think Shawn is so self absorbed he doesnt even read any other threads on here apart from his own, Go4it and Harley Brite were exactly the same.
::) oh That's kinda of sad if he's like that
maybe he'll surprises us all with his reply.......
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?he loves you....
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys whenyouryou're wrong.
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.
Thanks for the above.
This gh15 very likely is not going to like what you've said
He tends not to like the truth.
He calls you chiwi says that was your nickname.!!
Would you post on the gh15 thread just to shut him the fuck up
He'd go crackers ranting & raving - Surely you'd enjoy that,
& Do us all a favour.
you idiot racist muslim i don't see a problem with wht chiwi said there.. i am annonimous and this is how i remain,, period end of case
i gave here names along the years,, I'm one of those names,,
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.
^lol I have millions search enegines results just if you type my name in.. I make more than all ifbb profesionals of my era,, and! in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life
what else can one ask for?
I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..
learn something when someone is not important you cease talking about them period,, hush.. you just cease it but you cant because I have a penthouse built from the rent I take inside of your head..
I love it how few drug dealers come on here and try to play with me.. they don't understand how strong I am now days,, I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017
your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
the brownie from united kingdom is offended and hurt he doesn't know what hit him lol
he is pretty much a stalker level right now lol I have them all over but this brownie is hurt big time and lie consistently with no shame lol
LOCAL! you kjnwo what a local is? it is the worst thing a bodybuild can hear.. when he is a local.. lol you! are! a! local! lol
gh15 approved
yes my gawd imterrified
im so scared you should phone me
306-807-2672
remember fukface, youre the anonymous bitch whos scared of me. Lol all you can do is hide and type empty threats. What a sad loser you are
^lol I have millions search enegines results just if you type my name in.. I make more than all ifbb profesionals of my era,, and! in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life
what else can one ask for?
I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..
learn something when someone is not important you cease talking about them period,, hush.. you just cease it but you cant because I have a penthouse built from the rent I take inside of your head..
I love it how few drug dealers come on here and try to play with me.. they don't understand how strong I am now days,, I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017
your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
^if i say you are local i know what im talking about,,
you dont make money from bodybuild and never was able to make money from bodybuild,,
gh15 approved
Always was and continues to be a gimmick account set up by a nobody
If I say you are Wife beater & scam artist I know what im talking about,,
you no make money from bodybuild ever And only Beat wife & Scam Newbie
you Informer to police You is scared scared person
Scamming bible
blue Top
saizen
kigtropin
Don trump
Vlad Putin
Chairman mao
wife beatings
Approved.
Shawn, How did the Hawaii show go?
Is the MODERN HOTEL a part of the ILIKAI with the boat piers directly behind it?
Dud you use Hawaii NPC judges and who won each event?
How many total contestants?
How many fans in the seats?
Did you run into Ernie Santiago while you were there?
Any info you could provide about the event would be appreciated.
Thanks Shawn .... Stunt
Shawn , you are always the shortest in a photo.(https://media.gq.com/photos/57d9ab2e9c577e122a48a699/master/pass/verne-troyer-yeezys.jpg)
I tend to think Shawn is so self absorbed he doesnt even read any other threads on here apart from his own, Go4it and Harley Brite were exactly the same.
How does it feel to be ignored by Shawn in a 40 page thread?
shawn will most likely skip this page...
Shawn,
You said that you personally never used Hgh or the various Insulin's...
with that being said, if you were to use Insulin how would you personally take it?
What makes sense to you on how to use Insulin?
I'm 100% sure you have read all about Insulin during your Heydays, but choose not to use it since you get fat easily and it probably didn't benefit you in anyway, no disrespect intended.
Do you agree with either Milos Mindless Sacev or Dave Palumboism or neither one?
When are you going on RX muscle?
Ill ask Dorian the Hgh question so please don't comment on the master hormone.
I personally don't believe a blood sugar hormone does shit for quality mass or conditioning if know your body well and it responds to the 1-2-3 BB Basics, Milos and Dave are both Snake oil con men and that's a fact.
Dave's physique was a train wreck drug abuse of garbage and Milos was never more than 235lb in condition for a taller BB so how did Insulin make him these so called significant gains he claims...Insulin didn't... or he would have been 275lbs conditioned...All Lies!
Last question...Mike Ashley Natural??? LOL...sure he was...just like Skip LaCour was a Natty.
Shawn always avoids the tough questions, like if he's really on the stand.
Pleading the 5th. I plead the 5ifth judge.
If he thinks they are trash questions, now he knows how we feel about him wearing sunglasses indoors all the time.
David Spade syndrome...sensitive eyes all of a sudden but not a sensitive tongue, will it ever happen?
Now wearing shades on the Olympia stage would have been KOOL!
under the real bright lights where were the sunglasses?
Shawn, please ignore the poster above and just post more pictures of the bikini overall winner.
Her name is Carissa Bluth
How does it feel to be ignored by Shawn in a 40 page thread?Perfect...I know hes bothered by me and the questions I ask.
Shawn your thoughts on Vince Goodrum ?
Maybe Shawn can convince goodrum to compete again in one of his shows ?
Shawn I think you should answer this question (and this groupie's numerous other questions) when he reconciles his October racism with him following you around begging for advice. I mean this is still October.
Maybe Shawn can convince goodrum to compete again in one of his shows ?
Hello Be There,
How does it feel to be ignored under two handles by Shawn in a 40+ page thread?
2017 Classic Physique Mr Olympia Winner, Breon Ansley in Hawaii performing at the NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic Nov 4
lol
gh15 approved
Perfect...I know hes bothered by me and the questions I ask.
Does it make you feel useless and small deep down?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-XfaNDWAAAlNWA.jpg)
Bearing in mind I am older than Shawn and not fat and I have a full head of hair, no, I feel great...
LoL
At you Dipstick
Shawn Doesn't Know You Hasn't Heard of you & Thinks you're a Gimmick
Why don't you Interact with Shawn -- Tell Him who you are - who you're connected too
And your an expert on all things steroids.
In fact tell him what exactly he was using.
Leave the wife beating & Scamming & snitching parts out.
All's it may help if you can type properly & fairly coherently
(http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2939a221786968eb0d4e83d629675aca.jpeg)(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/16230666_1754694754556521_2726152215357030400_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ0MDA5Njg4NjkzNzM3NTE1OA%3D%3D.2)
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only after you stop lieing every 2 words.. and face me in pm or on my site and reveal who stand behind your lovely account then some of your questions wil be answerd.. until then you are an aged no one..
a
l o c a l
and sean.. knows who I am and competed against me,, I don't get into other threads unless I'm stimulated and thee is no stimulation here I told you I made getbig.. you cant get me to act the way you want.. I'm dicrating the beat always,, its always like this my friend
you need to learn me to know how I am.. to read tru the years.. im very alpha it is vry hard to get me to do what someone wants unless I feel compassion to some cause,,
try diferent way or adopt what I wrote.. and my English is not first language,, if I write well its usualy due to autospeling like I have right now.. you see where I wrote English the e gets capital.. its because the dumb computer I type on makes it that way,,
in any case local.. try diferent way or you can always reveal yourself on gh15.. it will be your easiest way to get some answers,,
gh15 approved
Wow, I didnt realise Shawn still looked like that, in clothes he looks like an oversized Vern Troyer.
Does your wife know she married a 50 year old online troll?a 52 year old online troll...
Awww poor baby. Nice knowing I occupy a place in the narrow head of yours.
I was unaware I was begging for advice. If asking Shawn for his insight on fellow competitors and his own career is "begging" then ok... if that helps you sleep better at night. Retard.
Do you have any Halloween candy left? Or just going to blame being chubby on the Islander's genetics for being "thick skinned"?
Barbells are attached to benches? Pathetic..
Keeps the blacks from stealing them I suppose
^ in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life
I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..
I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017
your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy
Hey the little racist groupie is back. No more questions for Hall of Fame Bodybuilder Shawn Ray?
Maybe you should ask him if he steals barbells?
Begging.... LOL.
What other quotes of mine do you have stored on your hard drive? Please share with us. Hopefully some more recent ones.
Would you like me to ask Shawn for some weight loss tips? I won't tell him they are for him.
Blacks vs gays? Let's see which loud mouth group cries "foul" the most often. Maybe Al Sharpton and Elton John can be team captains.
No, little racist groupie, there is nothing on my hard drive. Just about 20 seconds using the search function. Like this one:
Are you going to ask Shawn if he is a loud mouth?
I recommend you quit now. I'm sure I can find more you little racist turd. ;D
Poor baby.... I'm so far in your head. Perhaps you can find more recent ones. There should be plenty.
Share with us some more. I don't think those were my best ones.
I'm going to ask Shawn for the best solution to man boobs. That should help you out some with your insecurities.
NAIROBI: Mannequins were stripped clean, jewellery cases smashed, racks of expensive suits carted off, dozens of cash registers cracked open and at least one member of the Kenyan security services arrested, caught with a bloody wallet.
The looting of the Westgate mall, the scene of a siege in which scores of people were killed last month, appeared to have the scope and organisation of a large-scale military operation, and many Kenyans are asking if that is what it was.
Four-day siege or four-day shopping spree?
From the first hours after Islamist militants burst into the mall on September 21, executing men, women and children, until a week later when shopkeepers were let back in to sweep up the broken glass, very few people were allowed inside the mall except the Kenyan security forces, mainly the army.
More and more Kenyans believe those soldiers methodically cleaned out the mall, and that the barrages of gunfire ringing out for days were being directed not at the last of the militants but at safes and padlocks to blast them open. Some business leaders even question whether the Kenyan army deliberately prolonged the crisis by saying shooters were still in the building when they were actually dead, to give themselves extra time to steal.
Advertisement Witnesses said that the most they saw militants loot was a couple cans of soda, and shopkeepers cited no instances of panicked shoppers helping themselves to merchandise as they ran for their lives, leading to the widespread conclusion that the security forces must have been involved.
Kenyans are accustomed to corruption - their country is consistently rated as one of the most corrupt in the world - but the evidence of looting amid a national tragedy has been too much for many to take.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/kenyan-mall-looting-blamed-on-soldiers-20131004-2uymp.html#ixzz2glOTPKqn
What do you expect from blacks in black areas?
I did ask for more. More recent ones that is. My better work started after 2015. Can you post some of those? I'd appreciate it.
You sure are working hard for the Shawn Ray Fan Club award. Now I see where you little "groupie" projection comes from. Brown nosing it huh? Hee Hee, I said "brown" nose. Pun intended.
BTW have you tried Preparation H for those titties? Heard it shrinks them. Only temporary though.
Blacks being lazy and not wanting to work is because Obama hates them? I thought he loved them and was all about giving them free stuff so they wouldn't have to work.
Might want to work a little bit of consistency in your bullshit posts.
Has Shawn responded to you yet? You are working pathetically hard to get his attention. I would hate for you to put all this work in with your projections and he didn't at least acknowledge your desperate efforts. "Groupie".
Resort to your Chris Lund photo collection again.
Poor baby. Bad enough you only have three brain cells and one of them devoted to baby jesus. We see the other two are obsessed with shorts and male nudity.
Hard to believe you are black. Most blacks keep their little male fantasies to themselves on the down low.
Hey Boy - You Pathetic Piece of Crap
You're a Fucking Joke - Face You Via PM or on Your Site.... Ha Ha Ha ::)
Yellow Belly
I'll Go Better Than That Retard Meet me Face to Face
You're unable to Meet me or Anyone- Your to Scared !!
As for your weak answers - we don't really care
I have Zero interest in your answers as they are utter Drivel
Insert them up your arse & regurgitate them out through your mouth
& repeat.
Shawn has said you're a Gimmick & a very lame one at that.
first it is you're you are not your,, sad tht you need to be corrected since you truly don't know the diference bwteen the 2 like im sure you don't know the diferentce between then and than,,
second,, i am older than you and a ifbb pro something you could not achieve.. shredded wheat lol
thirdly pm me on the gh15 site and you wil get some of your questions answered,, you are a lieing filt.. a scammer.. you sell rubbish and crap.. you were kicked out for scamming people who did not know better,,
you are a...........
local! wanna! be!
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
^you are right now bordering a sad joke,, a local! sad joke lol
even with your broken third world English from the blocks you can come up with a way to not disturb chiwis thread nor my thread,, take it into pms,, right now i consider you a local the thing is that i dont even consider you a competitor.. i consider you a local dealer.. like professional scam muscle type local,,
you cant just disturb threads with your idiotic remarks,, there are individuals here who teach.. while you sit and play with your ballz,,
go look for fatmc.. ask him how he is doing i promise you he has news for you.. big promise,,
local lol
lieing! local,,
gh15 approved
Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
All you need to do is Man Up
Don't be a Pussy all your Life
Here's an idea for You Why Don't You PM Me
And Explain Is Very Easy to do.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
And you knock about with Donald ::)
Yet You have time & effort to be on Forums
Replying Someone Who You say is a Nobody just Like Yourself
Pot calling Kettle ::)
Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved
HTH
I agree. As would Wiggs would put it if he had the brains, gh15 is the pot calling the kettle, hebrew.
"GayHoe15"... ;D
Go carefully He's likely to Call you names in his oh so Intimidating Broken Pigeon English
Insult you & Threaten to expose you ::)
Also will say you were banned from his site ::)
And PM him & he will get you back on there ::)
He will Get his best friend Donald To set the CIA on You ::)
He is a very well know Wife beater & Scammer
He doesn't take lightly to disrespect.
Please Be warned
;)
;D
I have heard in hushed tones and airy whispers the kind of claims that would freeze a normal man's sphincter... that gh15 is the Master of the DarkWeb®.
I just spoke with Mother Theresa via my Ouibee™™ Board (the original Ouija Board was BLACK! FACK!) and while she can neither confirm nor deny these fears as well founded, she advised that I light two candles at the Our Lady of Perpetual Pinning shrine for our mutual protection. Consider it done, my friend.
:D
Is Shawn Ray a total retard after all?
you ruinning chiwis thread.. bunch of idiots once again demonstrate the reason why we limited the time we give to gtbig..
you need to understand we don't hve a lot of time,, when I come here and play with you I do it in order to boost gtbig.. I don't do it for myself,, its about time you get it,,
tht wanna be local delusionalti lol single handedly ruin sean rays tread,, ban him the fuck off this tread,, he also ruining my own thread with nonsense lies and juvinal balonie that no one take seriously beside him..
there is a place and time for fun.. do it in yoru own threads
if delusionati wants he can always pm me on my site or even on here,, always!
gh15 approved
Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved
Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
Phew- Thanks
Close call as Not wanting Trump & CIA on me back.
;)