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Title: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 27, 2017, 10:13:02 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rise on September 27, 2017, 10:17:48 PM
Welcome back.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: JCL on September 27, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
shawn mother fucking ray.

Finally not under bleckmans curse.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on September 27, 2017, 10:21:27 PM
Shawn was always cool and well respected at Gold's Venice. Solid citizen.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 27, 2017, 10:23:30 PM
Like him or hate him (and many do), can't deny he had a terrific physique.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 27, 2017, 10:23:52 PM
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.

At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on September 27, 2017, 10:24:03 PM
Shawn you are the best 212 bodybuilder of all time GOAT! Just my personal opinion

Conditioning, Symmetry, Balance, Poseing you had it all. (VACCUM)
Flex Lewis, Jose Raymond, Hadi Choopan... LOL 1992-1996 (1994 Mr. O) would wipe anyone off the stage

These guys got nothing on you...tell em all to enter the open.





Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: musclecenter on September 27, 2017, 10:24:20 PM
Welcome back !
You are one of great legends in this industry.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on September 27, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
Shawn did you every have a specific style of training like FST-7 or HIT?

or was it just more instinctive high volume-moderate to high rep twice a week based on destroying the muscle for that particular day?

also Did u ever want to be a prep Guru?

Had you not retired in 2001...at age 33-34.
Do you think you could have taken Dexter Jackson's 2006 Olympia trophy when Cutler was off or in 2007 as well? I do both 2006 and 2007.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 27, 2017, 10:44:19 PM
Shawn did you ever go to room 7 by the ice machine?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on September 27, 2017, 10:46:22 PM
Shawn did you ever go to room 7 by the ice machine?

Get serious...Bitch ass Homo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 27, 2017, 10:51:30 PM
Sounds like you've been there a few times, "incumbi-sexual"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 27, 2017, 10:57:42 PM
Shawn, welcome back.  You were always one of my favorite Pros and you were cool to me when I met you back in 1999 or 2000.  Thanks man.

What do you think of these Instagram fitness chicks that don't compete but can still make big bank just posting photos of their butts?  lol.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ron on September 27, 2017, 10:57:46 PM
What year and contest did I take these pictures of you... and which Olympia did you think you were at your all time best...



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Flexacon on September 27, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
In before Noel Fuller.

You vs 2017 Mr O line up. Where do you place?

Why did MD not have press passes for the Olympia?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: ratherbebig on September 27, 2017, 11:01:03 PM
shawn do you miss the lamborghini diablo?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 27, 2017, 11:08:57 PM
chadwick the beta incoming with questions about prolapsed asses.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 27, 2017, 11:10:03 PM
Shawn, what is wrong with Big Lenny's gut?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Top Poodle on September 27, 2017, 11:10:39 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!


WOW GH15 IS HERE!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 27, 2017, 11:12:56 PM
Nice to have you back.

When did you know that it was time to resign from MD?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: kreator on September 27, 2017, 11:14:07 PM
when is your next album coming out?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 27, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
We have a living legend here....no, not you, but Vince G CSN MFT PHD!  He has claimed in the past that he is related to a professional bodybuilder.

Can you confirm that this is true? I understand if you do not want to identify that relative if it is you!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: B R on September 27, 2017, 11:41:46 PM
Do you take kindly to disrespect?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on September 27, 2017, 11:49:56 PM
Shawn great too see you back Obviously you won't put yourself in a position too embarrass yourself doing any type of ridiculous comeback and that's fair enough your got nothing too prove competed in the toughest era in bodybuilding, in your opinion do you believe a 1993 version of Flex wheeler and a prime Kevin levrone, and a 1994 or 96 version of Shawn Ray could actually beat a prime Phil Heath (as in bringing your physiques back from the day and standing onstage in the 2011 or 2017 Mr Olympia?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2017, 12:03:52 AM
Any questions?

Yes, and hopefully posters will show respect and keep your family out of it, unless done so tastefully.

First of all, welcome back, Shawn.  While you have received negative comments on here, I should point out that you personally gave me a free copy of your Fit After 40 DVD for review in 2007 at the Arnold Classic.  This was just after some people in the expo came up to ask you about King Kamali, and you went on a rant about him and had the little group that formed around you laughing hysterically and at least three people filming it.

My question to you is:

You are in shape, but with your genetics, that doesn't tell me much, because realistically you could be in decent shape by doing push-ups and with minimal TRT.  So your in-shape physique does not really tell me how much you work out, if at all.  So what's up?  Is training still a part of your life?  If so, how has your training changed since your bodybuilding days?  You seem proud to have moved on from bodybuilding - as you should be when looking at Ronnie requiring a walker these days - but have you moved on from working out?  To what degree is training a part of your life?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 12:19:09 AM
how much did you learn from esfitness when he trained you back in the 90s when he was 15?

Did you know esfitness has never had a pbj sandwich.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2017, 12:19:18 AM
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.

At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)

I did not have a parsh while meeting Shawn in 2007.  ;D  That said, in 2001 when I saw Shawn on what was one of his very last covers at the time in Muscle & Fitness [picture attached], I almost got one.  I was like "Look at this hunka man."  ;D

 :-X

[No, but seriously - I was like "Dayum, some guys have all the luck, genetics-wise.]

Shawn you are the best 212 bodybuilder of all time GOAT! Just my personal opinion

Conditioning, Symmetry, Balance, Poseing you had it all. (VACCUM)
Flex Lewis, Jose Raymond, Hadi Choopan... LOL 1992-1996 (1994 Mr. O) would wipe anyone off the stage

These guys got nothing on you...tell em all to enter the open.





Yes, he would win for sure.  As great as Flex Lewis is, just do a side-by-side comparison with Shawn, and you can see that Shawn wins pretty easily.  Shawn also narrowly did indeed make the 212 class, as his heaviest competition weight was 217 I think, and he routinely came in under 215.  At the time, I would always wonder why Shawn didn't pack on more muscle, but looking back, I think it's pretty clear that he thought bodybuilding was about more than sheer size, and also considered his health to be a priority.  Nasser El Sonbaty was one of Shawn's biggest critiques, physique-wise [or vice versa], and...well... :( :-\ :'(

So yes, Shawn would be the 212 GOAT.  He doesn't beat Flex on size and muscularity, but the superiority in conditioning would have him crowned champ I think.  The disparity in conditioning would be too evident.  At least that is my opinion.

What year and contest did I take these pictures of you... and which Olympia did you think you were at your all time best...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745392;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745393;image)


2001.  :)

Shawn's final Mr. Olympia, final bodybuilding contest, period, and also a shot taken around the same time as the photo of Shawn on the Muscle & Fitness cover below, which almost gave me a semi at one of the Thunder Bay Wal-Mart stores.  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Desolate on September 28, 2017, 12:25:06 AM
I was a fan back in the day.

I don't know about your personal life.

I don't know the facts and lies about the tranny stuff...
I don't know the facts and lies about that drug situation involving your mother...

And I don't know why you didn't try to win more contests.
You should have gone back for The Night of Champions after the Phil Hill debacle.
It was there for the taking.

Also, multiple Ironman titles might have been a good idea.

Levrone and Taylor are proof that one can win many contests and still be very Olympia competitive.
You should have followed their example.

Now having said all this, you definitely won Joe Weider's 1994 Mr. Olympia contest.

You were robbed.

Any honest person knows it.
Any honest fan of Dorian Yates knows it. This includes good friend and fellow Bit Bob Wolff.
He was there and he said that you should have. and I quote: "Flown home with the Sandow."

Like myself, I'm sure you have that issue of Muscle & Fitness where said quote appears.

Have pride and take solace in that.

Also, you may have been robbed in 1996, but it was closer.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Top Poodle on September 28, 2017, 12:27:02 AM
shawn did you bang this broad?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745441;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 28, 2017, 12:28:22 AM
Welcome back, Shawn!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: jwb on September 28, 2017, 12:29:34 AM
Shawn was the first pro bodybuilder I ever saw train.

It was in Australia after a short seminar he did an upper back workout with one of the gym members.

The weights weren't super heavy but he did 15 reps per set with "I go, you go" tempo and the other guy almost fainted halfway through. The form was full range and reps were pretty fast.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: kreator on September 28, 2017, 01:19:28 AM
what do you think of Kamali's high ranking on this years's deadpool list?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2017, 01:25:43 AM
Nice to see that people are happy to have Shawn back.  :)

I always liked his posts, so I hope that this state of interest stays.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: _bruce_ on September 28, 2017, 01:27:56 AM
Great physique - one of the very best. Underrated size.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: wes on September 28, 2017, 01:33:16 AM
Great to have you back Shawn !!   :)

I used to post on your old board back in the day !!   


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 01:49:15 AM
Get serious...Bitch ass Homo

Room 7 by the Ice machine IS serious business!



Shawn, how long preparation did you have to get in this shape? And what year was it?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745396;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 28, 2017, 01:54:06 AM
Am i the only one that believes Shawn account was haked or bought?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 01:55:35 AM
Am i the only one that believes Shawn account was haked or bought?

he needs to post a pic with a white towel upside down cup.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: muscleman-2017 on September 28, 2017, 02:00:30 AM
Shawn, please share your thoughts on the following....

The Delray Misfits, Big Lenny and Jason Genova are more popular than any mainstream bodybuilder today.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: doggler on September 28, 2017, 02:19:19 AM
 Still fuckin with trannies ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Top Poodle on September 28, 2017, 02:19:37 AM
please acknowledge you are GH15


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The_Punisher on September 28, 2017, 02:30:19 AM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!



oh wow, we haven't had a Legend posting on here for years....nice to have you back , Shawn......let's make Getbig Great again


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 02:41:41 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=255113.0;attach=550458;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2017, 02:44:15 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=255113.0;attach=550458;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Randomum on September 28, 2017, 02:51:38 AM
Shawn tell us a bit of your politics. Are you repub or dem?

Also what is your real take on all the new divisions of bodybuilding?

Also can you go into your diet and how it changed as you learned your own body.

Are you on TRT?

Do you have any lingering health issues from being in bodybuilding? ( No disrespect just you seemed like a dude that didn't overdo the sauce so its interesting to see if you are symptom free).

Did you know Matt got a parsh for you ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2017, 03:06:03 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=255113.0;attach=550458;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 03:58:04 AM
Wonder if Booty will return?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on September 28, 2017, 04:00:56 AM
Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!

I'm not saying I'm an incredibly intelligent person or anything (I am) - but I knew you'd be back to the thunderdome, once the money to be on that ahh.. more friendly, but less exciting board wasn't coming in.

Welcome back, brother.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 04:04:34 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745444;image)

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/1humx1.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on September 28, 2017, 04:07:08 AM
ohhhhh

So that's why she's called booty.

I swear, I do not recall ever seeing her booty on here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 28, 2017, 04:08:33 AM
Maybe Lee Priest will come back too, now that Shawn Ray in in the house!!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on September 28, 2017, 04:09:27 AM
Also, Shawn, you're not doing your instagram correctly.  All former pros use filler where they just post old pics of themselves (often TBT - throwback tues/thursday).  Don't ask me why people lap that shit up - but they do.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Royalty on September 28, 2017, 04:24:35 AM
Welcome back Shawn. You are an Original Gangsta

The board is overrun with gimmick accounts. A few members have dozens of accounts. A guy named Joon, and another guy named Nether Animal will most likely bombard you with questions from their various accounts.

Other than that, the board has become very political. So be warned.




Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2017, 04:36:06 AM
This thread is giving me a parsh.  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 04:40:00 AM
This thread is giving me a parsh.  ;D

Didn't know you liked Shawn Ray that much Matt!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 04:42:55 AM
Shawn, why did you left MD for GI? Was it a better deal or due a conflict with Steve?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: BodyMachine on September 28, 2017, 04:48:03 AM
what was your steroid stack to compete in the Mr.
O 94'.
No BS, you put yourself out there for us to ask and you are retired done some "stuff" that was worse than roids, as such it's not a big deal to lay out your stack; help is understand what it takes to get at that level


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 28, 2017, 05:04:38 AM
Why did you wear a rug on your dome one year?... why didn't you shave it all off? 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: JCL on September 28, 2017, 05:05:45 AM
Why did you wear a rug on your dome one year?... why didn't you shave it all off? 

lol so many good questions, so many answers need to be answered.

Shawn needs to clear the air, this will be good for his character.

Welcome back.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 05:14:54 AM
ohhhhh

So that's why she's called booty.

I swear, I do not recall ever seeing her booty on here.

That isn't Booty's butt.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on September 28, 2017, 05:16:54 AM
Shawn,

A question on recent times,

How many bodybuilders didn't make it because they refused to 'Kneel' before Joe Weider? Or Steve W?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: sceagacros on September 28, 2017, 05:41:33 AM
Obviously an open and frank disclosure and discussion of your drug use during your time as a competitor would put you on a whole 'nother level above "I won the Olympia on 750 mg test and some creatine" Yates (not to mention all other Pros) and guarantee overwhelming interest in your thread . Obviously he (Yates) used mind blowing amounts of drugs - your take on this? Also - knowing that Dorian stayed with Weinberg while "winning" with only one arm reeks of corruption/ cronyism - your take on this?

Finally what do you see for the future of the O now that most consider it "fixed" like WWE wresting? Will it survive as "Entertainment" once the idea of "competition" is no longer consensual reality?
 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on September 28, 2017, 05:45:28 AM
Hi Shawn! Uncrowned mr O in da house! Nice to see you back bro!

Did you ever get an inviation for the Wbf championship? You were the top guy around this time so I guess it must have happend. Geez just watched that shit on youtube. Creds you never did that schmoe show!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
Can you still fit into your suits?
(https://www.gmv.com.au/images/2014%20general/2002%20Olympia%20Shawn%20Ray.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: ratherbebig on September 28, 2017, 06:56:43 AM
too many questions too much shit, thread is already 3 pages because the usual gang of getbiggers need to gossip every chance they get like little teenage girls on their phones who cant keep their mouth shut.

might as well lock the thread now


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 06:59:55 AM
too many questions too much shit, thread is already 3 pages because the usual gang of getbiggers need to gossip every chance they get like little teenage girls on their phones who cant keep their mouth shut.

might as well lock the thread now


(http://abload.de/img/0159_puaev.gif)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: ratherbebig on September 28, 2017, 07:01:08 AM
cool animated gif

loved that shit when it first appeared on the internet 15-20 years ago glad there's still people enjoying it


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 07:02:08 AM
cool animated gif

loved that shit when it first appeared on the internet 15-20 years ago glad there's still people enjoying it

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/52befb0ae4b0661652b3ac71/1388247835132/)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 28, 2017, 07:03:05 AM
    Going to wait 2 pages more, until it becomes obvious that 80 percent of posters in this thread, "Shawn Ray" included, is the same person.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 07:03:46 AM
    Going to wait 2 pages more, until it becomes obvious that 80 percent of posters in this thread, "Shawn Ray" included, is the same person.

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/52bf0413e4b0f14b4cc964ef/1388250161717/?format=300w)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 28, 2017, 07:04:26 AM
(http://abload.de/img/0159_puaev.gif)

Is that Denise Ruthkowski on the right?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: a_pupil on September 28, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
nearly came in my pants when I saw the date of this thread.

bring the chickster back as well. i've got some questions for him about room 7 in the mirage hotel (by the ice machine).

there is also the rumour of him being used by the cia to control saudi arabian oil shaykhs and that the current reforms going on there were initialized during muscle worship sessions.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290125.0;attach=330699;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2017, 07:32:31 AM
This is great!  :D

As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on September 28, 2017, 07:37:29 AM
No questions here, just paying respect:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/eV3MpFivz46be/giphy.gif)



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 28, 2017, 07:50:45 AM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!



A lot of questions already asked

Are you going to answer any of them.?
Hope you do - should be some interesting & entertaining answers

Pointless Starting a thread otherwise.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Danimal77 on September 28, 2017, 07:50:54 AM
WOW GH15 IS HERE!!!

Kid, you just registered this year and are 26. You weren't even alive when Shawn last posted on here and you don't know who GH15 was newb.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Skylge on September 28, 2017, 07:51:02 AM
Cool move.
At his prime Shawn looked a lot better than most of the later xxl gut builders. Things got out of control substance wise imo

Great poser too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acolks9sijg

Quality is the name of the game


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: macgyver on September 28, 2017, 07:56:02 AM
Can you unblock Jays_antics on Instagram??

My life hasn't been as great on there since you dropped the hammer and I'm not sure why!!!  :'(


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 07:58:45 AM
OH BOY, thats a lot of questions for less than 24 hours and being gone for nearly 10 years!

Short answers:

- Yes, I workout when or if I feel like it. I travel a lot and I'm raising my kids so thats my priorities and the gym will always be my first love so I return to it often in bunches with plenty of breaks in between. Calories in and Calories out. Im more concerned about how I feel rather than stuck on how I look. I worked out to be the Best Bodybuilder I could be, now I work out because I like to eat and stay active and healthy. My weight is 217 and steady (5lbs over my contest weight and 15 pounds under my Off Season Weight when I competed)

- I personally feel I was a more "Complete" bodybuilder than Flex Lewis at 212lb with fewer flaws.

- I never gave a shit about Dorian living and training with Weinberger, it answered a lot of questions for me while trying to beat Dorian which is how I rationalized closure on my career. It was what it was.

- Jim Manion has Big plans for the NPC & Pro League and Im on board with his ideas of making the sport better.

- I haven't used a Drug since I retired 17 years ago.

- Former Pro Bodybuilders using HRT is another word for ADDICT!

- I didn't compete more often because I never competed for Trophies or money, I was trying to be Mr Olympia which is the reason I got out of bed each day to go to work and focus on that singular Goal. I didn't care about how many shows I could win or prize money I could make, business was good for me Off Stage to where I didn't have to do a bunch of contests.

- I turned Pro in 1987 and immediately stated on camera, "I'll probably Lose more shows than I win however I just want to be considered One of the Best if not The Best by the time I'm done."

- My Drug Cycle lead me to gaining 14lbs in q14 years by design. I never wanted to be the Biggest, I wanted to be The Best.

- I don't mind "Disrespect" from Strangers I don't know or never met. I have thick skin and the Internet Warriors have Never approached me to tell me to my face that they Post online, not a Single One including Tamali & Nasser.

- I haven't spoken to Levrone in a Year since this weekend when I told him he was "Delusional" thinking he could beat Justin Compton let alone Akim Williams. I was right and we haven't talked since. # TruthHurts.

- Breon Ansley is the Real Deal!

- The new "Wellness: Division is the most Exciting Division!

- I never cared much about Not winning the Olympia, I knew too much about the reasons Why which had nothing to do with my Physique which made it easier for me to transition away from the stage.

- I Guest posed One Time Fat and Out of shape in 14 Years in 1996 substituting for Kevin Levrone in 1996 at Jim Manion show with 1 1/2 Week Notice. I was a Contracted Weider Athlete with a Contracted number of Appearances and was Directed to fill in for Kevin even though I was Offseason and Protested. I was after I placed 5th at the 96 ASC and people wrote me off for Dead.
I finished the year with a 2nd place finish at the 96 Mr Olympia the same year. I have yet to see a Fat Photo of me Guest Posing from any other contest the the one these Fat Pics are from in Pittsburgh. Looking back I laugh but the lesson was learned that day to Stand up and never do something I was not on board with doing regardless of a Contract or Whom was asking the favor. I tried to stress this to Dallas McCarver but his Trainer, "The Chad & Sponsor, Singerman" got in the kids head and pushed him into putting himself in a Bad Light.

- I comfortably Retired with Businesses that are flourishing with ZERO Interest in Competing again. For What?

- Big Army is the nicest most Humble Pro on the Circuit today.

- Flex Lewis was beaten in Asia.

- The Bubble Guts were on Full Display this years Olympia something I was talking about back in 1994.

- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.

- Racism is Alive and Well.

- The NFL is getting too political to enjoy.
#RAIDERNATION4LIFE!

- Classic Physique will replace Open Bodybuilding as the sports #1 Interest oneway soon if the criteria for Winning isn't changed soon.

- The New NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic is in Honolulu, Hawaii November 4th: www.SRHAwaiianClassic.co m

- I never had a Gimmick Account.

- My Best Years were 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 99, 01.

- Steve Blechman doesn't owe me a Dime.

- Generation Iron interests my Creative Ideas and Change is Good!

- MD was a great run but not room for Growth for me.

- This year Olympia Webcast was the Best Ever!

- Tight Booty was a Hot Topic here, lets bring her back to piss of Lee Priest! Is he still in Jail? Hospital? Tattoo Parlor? Looking for a Job? Locked out of the US? Details please..... ;D

- I've missed King Tamali, he's still on the Dead pool List? Amazing run for this guy who was supposed to beat me on stage ::)

- Brandon Curry is my Bodybuilder of the YEAR!

- My Drug Cycle while competing was a reflection of the respect I had for my Body and the Business.

- Ronnie Colemans disposition was predictable based on his style of training, thats an observation and a fact. Dorian was headed in the same direction but smartly backed off in 97 and changed directions with his physical interests.

- Is Lee Thompson still Alive?

- The Super League is Super Dead according to Dorian Yates.

- I'm happily retired and supporting the sport on a Global Scale MCING, Promoting and Covering the Sport.

- GENERATION IRON is Amazing with respect for the Sport, Opportunities, Coverage and promotions!

Thats all for now boys! Haters FLAME AWAY 8)
 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 28, 2017, 08:05:00 AM
Straight up truth.  Did you use HGH during your prime?  Was HGH widely used at the time?  How about Insulin?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: MAXX on September 28, 2017, 08:05:58 AM
how many times a day did you have to suck off Blechman to keep your job at MD?

also what do you think about his way of running MD and employees there?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:07:55 AM
how many times a day did you have to suck off Blechman to keep your job at MD?

also what do you think about his way of running MD and employees there?

No GH and Insulin were not part of Bodybuilding for me and my career.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 08:10:01 AM

The siren song of Karen. She has caused many a wreck upon Musclehead Rock.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:10:18 AM
how many times a day did you have to suck off Blechman to keep your job at MD?

also what do you think about his way of running MD and employees there?

The Disrespect gets ignored by me. ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on September 28, 2017, 08:10:28 AM
No hate from this cornor Shawn! I always thaught you were great and we would be great friends irl. Props to your post! One funny guy  :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 08:11:56 AM
What happened at the Arnold with Palumbo? When you stole Ahmad away from Rx. Whats your side of the story? That was awesome by the way!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2017, 08:17:18 AM
An important question, Shawn:

1) Why are getbiggers such hypocrites?  :D :D When you were not posting, they were saying you were overrated and you complain too much. Now, they are singing your praise because you're posting again. Can you explain this phenomenon?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Henda on September 28, 2017, 08:18:16 AM
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?

(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/15877336_949289191872942_7631165340252110848_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQyNjk0MjMwMDg4MjAxMzk5OQ%3D%3D.2  )


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 08:19:53 AM
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?

(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/15877336_949289191872942_7631165340252110848_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQyNjk0MjMwMDg4MjAxMzk5OQ%3D%3D.2  )

I dont see why not
(http://i46.tinypic.com/25psaxw.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: TheShape. on September 28, 2017, 08:22:40 AM
No GH and Insulin were not part of Bodybuilding for me and my career.
That much is obvious when comparing your physique to the modern pregnant and bloated pros. Glad to hear you're smart enough to stay away from bodybuilding drugs after competing, it's better to retire ahead than be a former shell of yourself just to prove something and end up hurting yourself in the process.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:35:44 AM
What happened at the Arnold with Palumbo? When you stole Ahmad away from Rx. Whats your side of the story? That was awesome by the way!

Palumbo was looking for publicity.
Ahmad was standing by himself, I walked over with the camera running and we hugged then I began to interview him. Palumbo was off in the distance or on the side apparently setting up his camera to interview him then ran over once he set up to crash my interview.
Got to love a Publicity hound with a Hard On against the guy who took his Job!
Dave constantly likes to talk about me, notice I never brought up his name?
The Jealousy is REAL at RX and Aceto is Palumbo's biggest Nut Hugger! ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on September 28, 2017, 08:35:53 AM
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?

(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/15877336_949289191872942_7631165340252110848_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQyNjk0MjMwMDg4MjAxMzk5OQ%3D%3D.2  )

I can see the insulin induced bubble gut.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:39:20 AM
An important question, Shawn:

1) Why are getbiggers such hypocrites?  :D :D When you were not posting, they were saying you were overrated and you complain too much. Now, they are singing your praise because you're posting again. Can you explain this phenomenon?

Traditionally Get Bigger waffle back n forth depending on which way the wind blows.
The Internet Warriors love to Hate and Love to Love!
I have a select few Haters here that regardless of my Success refuse to sho love or give props, its not in their DNA so I let them Flame Away!
My MOD Powers refuse to eliminate these guys because the they show whom they truly are and I like that everyone else can see their level of Discontent.
Its all good, its what makes the Board what it is. We have Highly Educated to extremely Ignorant. A true reflection of society at large!
Peanuts Popcorn!!!! :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:40:53 AM
Do you believe this to be a suitable physique for posting on a bodybuilding message board?

(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/15877336_949289191872942_7631165340252110848_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQyNjk0MjMwMDg4MjAxMzk5OQ%3D%3D.2  )

Only thing missing is some Oil, Tan, Muscle, Shave and a Pro Card!
Other than that, looks great me! ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
Palumbo was saying you have it out for Chad since the 90's, which is why you have been writing some negative stuff regarding gurus especially Chad, whats your opinion on gurus and The Chad?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
Palumbo was saying you have it out for Chad since the 90's, which is why you have been writing some negative stuff regarding gurus especially Chad, whats your opinion on gurus and The Chad?

Again, Palumbo reports what he wants people to think is News.
For the Record, I don't have it out for Chad. I pointed out how many people he has personally worked with that are DEAD!
Fact.
Ask The Chad how many Funerals of the guys hew has worked with did he attend?
I didn't have to tell you that Dallas' situation was fast tracked merely upon working with The CHAD! Stevie Wonder could see that.
Did The Chad go to this "FRIEND/ CLIENTs" Funeral? NO.
Nassers? NO.
Youngbloods? No.
Atwoods? NO.

Case closed.
#JustTheFacts


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: tres_taco_combo on September 28, 2017, 08:52:03 AM
shawn I might be moving to Hawaii soon (1-2 years)

I know you do a show in Hawaii (NPC event)

what is your opinion of being a bodybuilder in Hawaii? Maui to be specific. - good culture. i need a good ecosystem.


 my goal in 3-4 years is mens classic physique pro (not too too far off imho) goal is that IFBB pro card in my class



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:59:25 AM
shawn I might be moving to Hawaii soon (1-2 years)

I know you do a show in Hawaii (NPC event)

what is your opinion of being a bodybuilder in Hawaii? Maui to be specific. - good culture. i need a good ecosystem.


 my goal in 3-4 years is mens classic physique pro (not too too far off imho) goal is that IFBB pro card in my class



Its not "Where you Live' that makes you good! Its how hard you train and diet when you do it!
Maui is an island, not alot of Depth regarding comparisons but if you qualify with a Win for the next level of Competition, you will no doubt have to leave that island for Bigger Fish to compete against! Come to Oahu next year and do show!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on September 28, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
Certainly a throwback look and i heard he was 180lbs?

Real deal for sure!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 09:02:43 AM
Why are Lee and King trashing you on the last Rx Iron Debate? And is there any chance of these types of program formats on Generation Iron?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2017, 09:08:17 AM
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: LittleJ on September 28, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Sup Shawn, I'm friends with your nephew Bobby. All good peoples


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 09:16:27 AM
Shawn why did Sadik keep grabbing the mic when you interviewed him at the Olympia? ;D It looked like you became annoyed and finally told him to stop touching the mic, good stuff!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 28, 2017, 09:16:42 AM
Which bodybuilders are the biggest dickheads you ever met?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 28, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ap0OUpdVnKc/maxresdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on September 28, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
SHAWN ,,,OPINION ON THE GREAT LEE HANEY AND ESPECIALLY COMPETING AGAINST HIM?

I ALWAYS FELT AT LEAST PHYSIQUE WISE ON THE SHOW DAY'AMATEUR'LEVEL SHAWN'S 87 PRO CARD WIN AT 21 AND OF COURSE WHEELERS
USA WIN WERE PHENOMINAL INTERMS OF BUILD/POLISH/POSING AND ECT...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 28, 2017, 09:30:55 AM
Do you think Cedric has peaked and maximized his potential?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rascal full on September 28, 2017, 09:35:22 AM
Shawn, your opinion on Phil Heath and his Olympia winning streak please? Personally, I believe a lot of politics are involved and he wins partly because of his physique but also because he is considered a good ambassador for the sport, whereas his nearest contenders Kai and Big Ramy are not. Would you agree with this and do you think Phil can keep winning despite his midsection getting worse and worse?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DanielPaul on September 28, 2017, 09:57:12 AM
Thanks so much for giving us regular folks an open line to a true legend of BB.  As a teen you were def one of my favorites and I'd love to see you back at about 8% body fat natural and still maintain some serious muscle just to prove it can be done at your age.  Also while you were gone shizzo died, came back and sucked a dick, no bull shit.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: 10pints on September 28, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
Also while you were gone shizzo died, came back and sucked a dick, no bull shit.

Like some kind of homo Jesus.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The_Punisher on September 28, 2017, 10:00:47 AM
Damnit, I love this thread.. ;D.....getbig needed that in the midst of all these nonsenses lately.....Now, we need Cicherillo to get back here as well


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 10:10:43 AM
All I ask is Shawn, do not attempt to make a come back.

Also, comment on  Phil Heath's hernia situation.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
Damnit, I love this thread.. ;D.....getbig needed that in the midst of all these nonsenses lately.....Now, we need Cicherillo to get back here as well

its probably joon again....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: dan18 on September 28, 2017, 10:20:46 AM
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.

At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)
one whole nz-inch


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
Shawn, how was Milos able to sneak back into the US again? Do you really believe Nasser and Dorian banged his ex wife?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: macgyver on September 28, 2017, 10:49:36 AM
Shawn, how was Milos able to sneak back into the US again? Do you really believe Nasser and Dorian banged his ex wife?

Not sure either but there's no active warrant on him. Milamar's "issues" are pretty well known and old news.
I was lucky enough to work for them and train around Flex, Shawn, and the other pro's at the time. Good
ol days.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 28, 2017, 10:53:00 AM
Who do you think is the best "guru" on the scene right now?  What about the Camel Army in Oxygen?  You've been there correct?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ap0OUpdVnKc/maxresdefault.jpg)

Close tie with Chris Dickerson


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
OH BOY, thats a lot of questions for less than 24 hours and being gone for nearly 10 years!

Short answers:

- Yes, I workout when or if I feel like it. I travel a lot and I'm raising my kids so thats my priorities and the gym will always be my first love so I return to it often in bunches with plenty of breaks in between. Calories in and Calories out. Im more concerned about how I feel rather than stuck on how I look. I worked out to be the Best Bodybuilder I could be, now I work out because I like to eat and stay active and healthy. My weight is 217 and steady (5lbs over my contest weight and 15 pounds under my Off Season Weight when I competed)

- I personally feel I was a more "Complete" bodybuilder than Flex Lewis at 212lb with fewer flaws.

- I never gave a shit about Dorian living and training with Weinberger, it answered a lot of questions for me while trying to beat Dorian which is how I rationalized closure on my career. It was what it was.

- Jim Manion has Big plans for the NPC & Pro League and Im on board with his ideas of making the sport better.

- I haven't used a Drug since I retired 17 years ago.

- Former Pro Bodybuilders using HRT is another word for ADDICT!

- I didn't compete more often because I never competed for Trophies or money, I was trying to be Mr Olympia which is the reason I got out of bed each day to go to work and focus on that singular Goal. I didn't care about how many shows I could win or prize money I could make, business was good for me Off Stage to where I didn't have to do a bunch of contests.

- I turned Pro in 1987 and immediately stated on camera, "I'll probably Lose more shows than I win however I just want to be considered One of the Best if not The Best by the time I'm done."

- My Drug Cycle lead me to gaining 14lbs in q14 years by design. I never wanted to be the Biggest, I wanted to be The Best.

- I don't mind "Disrespect" from Strangers I don't know or never met. I have thick skin and the Internet Warriors have Never approached me to tell me to my face that they Post online, not a Single One including Tamali & Nasser.

- I haven't spoken to Levrone in a Year since this weekend when I told him he was "Delusional" thinking he could beat Justin Compton let alone Akim Williams. I was right and we haven't talked since. # TruthHurts.

- Breon Ansley is the Real Deal!

- The new "Wellness: Division is the most Exciting Division!

- I never cared much about Not winning the Olympia, I knew too much about the reasons Why which had nothing to do with my Physique which made it easier for me to transition away from the stage.

- I Guest posed One Time Fat and Out of shape in 14 Years in 1996 substituting for Kevin Levrone in 1996 at Jim Manion show with 1 1/2 Week Notice. I was a Contracted Weider Athlete with a Contracted number of Appearances and was Directed to fill in for Kevin even though I was Offseason and Protested. I was after I placed 5th at the 96 ASC and people wrote me off for Dead.
I finished the year with a 2nd place finish at the 96 Mr Olympia the same year. I have yet to see a Fat Photo of me Guest Posing from any other contest the the one these Fat Pics are from in Pittsburgh. Looking back I laugh but the lesson was learned that day to Stand up and never do something I was not on board with doing regardless of a Contract or Whom was asking the favor. I tried to stress this to Dallas McCarver but his Trainer, "The Chad & Sponsor, Singerman" got in the kids head and pushed him into putting himself in a Bad Light.

- I comfortably Retired with Businesses that are flourishing with ZERO Interest in Competing again. For What?

- Big Army is the nicest most Humble Pro on the Circuit today.

- Flex Lewis was beaten in Asia.

- The Bubble Guts were on Full Display this years Olympia something I was talking about back in 1994.

- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.

- Racism is Alive and Well.

- The NFL is getting too political to enjoy.
#RAIDERNATION4LIFE!

- Classic Physique will replace Open Bodybuilding as the sports #1 Interest oneway soon if the criteria for Winning isn't changed soon.

- The New NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic is in Honolulu, Hawaii November 4th: www.SRHAwaiianClassic.co m

- I never had a Gimmick Account.

- My Best Years were 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 99, 01.

- Steve Blechman doesn't owe me a Dime.

- Generation Iron interests my Creative Ideas and Change is Good!

- MD was a great run but not room for Growth for me.

- This year Olympia Webcast was the Best Ever!

- Tight Booty was a Hot Topic here, lets bring her back to piss of Lee Priest! Is he still in Jail? Hospital? Tattoo Parlor? Looking for a Job? Locked out of the US? Details please..... ;D

- I've missed King Tamali, he's still on the Dead pool List? Amazing run for this guy who was supposed to beat me on stage ::)

- Brandon Curry is my Bodybuilder of the YEAR!

- My Drug Cycle while competing was a reflection of the respect I had for my Body and the Business.

- Ronnie Colemans disposition was predictable based on his style of training, thats an observation and a fact. Dorian was headed in the same direction but smartly backed off in 97 and changed directions with his physical interests.

- Is Lee Thompson still Alive?

- The Super League is Super Dead according to Dorian Yates.

- I'm happily retired and supporting the sport on a Global Scale MCING, Promoting and Covering the Sport.

- GENERATION IRON is Amazing with respect for the Sport, Opportunities, Coverage and promotions!

Thats all for now boys! Haters FLAME AWAY 8)
 

Good stuff. Welcome back.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rambone on September 28, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
Would love to take Shawn to Sizzler sometime #noschmoe


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on September 28, 2017, 12:31:36 PM
he aint gonna answer any gear q's fellas, so give it up


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 12:44:33 PM
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?
No.
That would be Franco. :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 12:45:59 PM
Only thing missing is some Oil, Tan, Muscle, Shave and a Pro Card!
Other than that, looks great me! ;D
Shawn always did have an eye for talent.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 12:55:24 PM
Shawn why did Sadik keep grabbing the mic when you interviewed him at the Olympia? ;D It looked like you became annoyed and finally told him to stop touching the mic, good stuff!

I think he was excited & amped up!
I've let others take the Mic and you lose control of the interview and the timing. We were on a schedule and the last thing I wanted to do was cut him off. He's a cool kid and loves what he does! It's shows in his energy!
My move will remind him Not to do that in future interviews. 8)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
Thanks so much for giving us regular folks an open line to a true legend of BB.  As a teen you were def one of my favorites and I'd love to see you back at about 8% body fat natural and still maintain some serious muscle just to prove it can be done at your age.  Also while you were gone shizzo died, came back and sucked a dick, no bull shit.

PreDictable  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 01:07:47 PM
Chick is currently lurking......like he does everyday  :D

Come on Bob, throw on one of your sparkly button ups, and join the party.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
Melvin Goodrum said he talked to you recently. Are you two related? Well, we understand if you can't answer. I doubt anyone would fess up to that fact!

By the way, could you talk to Ron to help me get my competitor BLUE stars?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on September 28, 2017, 01:58:31 PM
Shawn: have you had any dealings with Scott Abel?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
Melvin Goodrum said he talked to you recently. Are you two related? Well, we understand if you can't answer. I doubt anyone would fess up to that fact!

By the way, could you talk to Ron to help me get my competitor BLUE stars?

Ron has already stated he doesn't like you and will never give you blue stars.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 02:07:55 PM
Which bodybuilders are the biggest dickheads you ever met?


That List is about the same length as the Internet Trolls like Joel Fuller, Lee Priest, Tamali, Palumbo, Aceto & Co.
Too many to mention✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
Shawn: have you had any dealings with Scott Abel?

No.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bosch on September 28, 2017, 02:10:10 PM
Shawn, do you think Phil Heath is the worst Mr. Olympia?
No.
That would be Franco. :o

Glad to see honest opinion on here, Shawn. :D
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 02:11:51 PM
Shawn who was the better bodybuilder, you or Danny Padilla?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2017, 02:16:36 PM
No.
That would be Franco. :o

Do you think Phil Heath's gut was out of control this Olympia?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: sceagacros on September 28, 2017, 02:19:13 PM
Very cool , thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
Here's one that's a bit different, a hypothetical:

If you had to choose between BB rows and chins as a main back exercise, for some reason you were running an abbreviated program and could use only one (in tandem with Romanian Deadlifts) for back - which one would you pick and why?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on September 28, 2017, 02:22:47 PM
What is your favorite pool side adult beverage?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 02:24:33 PM
What is your favorite pool side adult beverage?
Toequila.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
Shawn, just like you, Dave Palumbo likes to joke around, but I don't believe that's making him a 'troll'. Would you accept Dave's offer to do a 'Live with..' interview?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
Melvin Goodrum said he talked to you recently. Are you two related? Well, we understand if you can't answer. I doubt anyone would fess up to that fact!

By the way, could you talk to Ron to help me get my competitor BLUE stars?

Jesus Christ, Vince. Enough with the blue damn stars ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 03:17:34 PM
Jesus Christ, Vince. Enough with the blue damn stars ::)

X2, this is a new time low :-\


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 03:18:34 PM
X2, this is a new time low :-\
Probably because it's a gimmick. The real Vince, wouldn't have asked that.

Trust me.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 03:21:54 PM
Probably because it's a gimmick. The real Vince, wouldn't have asked that.

Trust me.

I've heard that before about 'Vince B', but I'm not that surprised by his (or 'his') request


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: jaejonna on September 28, 2017, 03:25:41 PM
welcome back sean


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ssxa on September 28, 2017, 03:28:14 PM
Shawn,
Do you agree with the Olympia placings? While Heath was better from the back, Ramy blew him away from the front, plus Phil's gut and hernia were pretty bad.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
Shawn,
Do you agree with the Olympia placings? While Heath was better from the back, Ramy blew him away from the front, plus Phil's gut and hernia were pretty bad.
Isn't that how most guys are blown  ???


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
Isn't that how most guys are blown  ???

Well, you're the expert here ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Twaddle on September 28, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
Shawn, how much did Ron pay you to come back to the board?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 28, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
Shawn, how much did Ron pay you to come back to the board?
A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)

And a sponsorship with Jergens. Shawn will be mainly responsible for the cocoa butter branch of the company.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Twaddle on September 28, 2017, 04:02:03 PM
A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)

And a sponsorship with Jergens. Shawn will be mainly responsible for the cocoa butter branch of the company.

Jesus fuck.  I wasn't talking to you dipshit.  Ron would most likely pay you to leave the board.   ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2017, 04:07:57 PM
A lifetime supply of fake eyelashes ( so he doesn't waste time curling his own)

And a sponsorship with Jergens. Shawn will be mainly responsible for the cocoa butter branch of the company.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 28, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
OH BOY, thats a lot of questions for less than 24 hours and being gone for nearly 10 years!

Short answers:

- Yes, I workout when or if I feel like it. I travel a lot and I'm raising my kids so thats my priorities and the gym will always be my first love so I return to it often in bunches with plenty of breaks in between. Calories in and Calories out. Im more concerned about how I feel rather than stuck on how I look. I worked out to be the Best Bodybuilder I could be, now I work out because I like to eat and stay active and healthy. My weight is 217 and steady (5lbs over my contest weight and 15 pounds under my Off Season Weight when I competed)

- I personally feel I was a more "Complete" bodybuilder than Flex Lewis at 212lb with fewer flaws.

- I never gave a shit about Dorian living and training with Weinberger, it answered a lot of questions for me while trying to beat Dorian which is how I rationalized closure on my career. It was what it was.

- Jim Manion has Big plans for the NPC & Pro League and Im on board with his ideas of making the sport better.

- I haven't used a Drug since I retired 17 years ago.

- Former Pro Bodybuilders using HRT is another word for ADDICT!

- I didn't compete more often because I never competed for Trophies or money, I was trying to be Mr Olympia which is the reason I got out of bed each day to go to work and focus on that singular Goal. I didn't care about how many shows I could win or prize money I could make, business was good for me Off Stage to where I didn't have to do a bunch of contests.

- I turned Pro in 1987 and immediately stated on camera, "I'll probably Lose more shows than I win however I just want to be considered One of the Best if not The Best by the time I'm done."

- My Drug Cycle lead me to gaining 14lbs in q14 years by design. I never wanted to be the Biggest, I wanted to be The Best.

- I don't mind "Disrespect" from Strangers I don't know or never met. I have thick skin and the Internet Warriors have Never approached me to tell me to my face that they Post online, not a Single One including Tamali & Nasser.

- I haven't spoken to Levrone in a Year since this weekend when I told him he was "Delusional" thinking he could beat Justin Compton let alone Akim Williams. I was right and we haven't talked since. # TruthHurts.

- Breon Ansley is the Real Deal!

- The new "Wellness: Division is the most Exciting Division!

- I never cared much about Not winning the Olympia, I knew too much about the reasons Why which had nothing to do with my Physique which made it easier for me to transition away from the stage.

- I Guest posed One Time Fat and Out of shape in 14 Years in 1996 substituting for Kevin Levrone in 1996 at Jim Manion show with 1 1/2 Week Notice. I was a Contracted Weider Athlete with a Contracted number of Appearances and was Directed to fill in for Kevin even though I was Offseason and Protested. I was after I placed 5th at the 96 ASC and people wrote me off for Dead.
I finished the year with a 2nd place finish at the 96 Mr Olympia the same year. I have yet to see a Fat Photo of me Guest Posing from any other contest the the one these Fat Pics are from in Pittsburgh. Looking back I laugh but the lesson was learned that day to Stand up and never do something I was not on board with doing regardless of a Contract or Whom was asking the favor. I tried to stress this to Dallas McCarver but his Trainer, "The Chad & Sponsor, Singerman" got in the kids head and pushed him into putting himself in a Bad Light.

- I comfortably Retired with Businesses that are flourishing with ZERO Interest in Competing again. For What?

- Big Army is the nicest most Humble Pro on the Circuit today.

- Flex Lewis was beaten in Asia.

- The Bubble Guts were on Full Display this years Olympia something I was talking about back in 1994.

- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.

- Racism is Alive and Well.

- The NFL is getting too political to enjoy.
#RAIDERNATION4LIFE!

- Classic Physique will replace Open Bodybuilding as the sports #1 Interest oneway soon if the criteria for Winning isn't changed soon.

- The New NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic is in Honolulu, Hawaii November 4th: www.SRHAwaiianClassic.co m

- I never had a Gimmick Account.

- My Best Years were 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 99, 01.

- Steve Blechman doesn't owe me a Dime.

- Generation Iron interests my Creative Ideas and Change is Good!

- MD was a great run but not room for Growth for me.

- This year Olympia Webcast was the Best Ever!

- Tight Booty was a Hot Topic here, lets bring her back to piss of Lee Priest! Is he still in Jail? Hospital? Tattoo Parlor? Looking for a Job? Locked out of the US? Details please..... ;D

- I've missed King Tamali, he's still on the Dead pool List? Amazing run for this guy who was supposed to beat me on stage ::)

- Brandon Curry is my Bodybuilder of the YEAR!

- My Drug Cycle while competing was a reflection of the respect I had for my Body and the Business.

- Ronnie Colemans disposition was predictable based on his style of training, thats an observation and a fact. Dorian was headed in the same direction but smartly backed off in 97 and changed directions with his physical interests.

- Is Lee Thompson still Alive?

- The Super League is Super Dead according to Dorian Yates.

- I'm happily retired and supporting the sport on a Global Scale MCING, Promoting and Covering the Sport.

- GENERATION IRON is Amazing with respect for the Sport, Opportunities, Coverage and promotions!

Thats all for now boys! Haters FLAME AWAY 8)
 

Quote
- I didn't Vote for The Donald or Hillary.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 04:28:46 PM
Shawn



Is Cour LaSkip natural?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on September 28, 2017, 04:35:42 PM
your thoughts on the passing of keith "onlyme" jones

where would phil place in the 90's?   

if you, flex, nasser, and Mr. Levrone from 98 competed this year where would you guys place?

most unbeatable body you ever saw on stage?


E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 04:41:48 PM
What are your views on competitive bikini, and how will that class evolve?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: viking1 on September 28, 2017, 04:45:01 PM
Thanks for your answers, Shawn!!!



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: bigkid on September 28, 2017, 04:50:31 PM
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate.  Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever.  Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business.  Did it the right way.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 28, 2017, 04:58:15 PM
Shawn



Is Cour LaSkip natural?


Ask him about the original Hebrews, thanks


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on September 28, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Hi Shawn.  Big fan.  #fullhomo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 05:12:58 PM
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate.  Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever.  Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business.  Did it the right way.
he gets hate because bodybuilders are insecure and immature, and can't take the truth about their own physiques. They believe it's a personal attack on them, and chose to over look their own flaws. And when someone like Shawn is candid about them, they melt.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rambone on September 28, 2017, 05:30:46 PM
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate.  Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever.  Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business.  Did it the right way.

(https://j.gifs.com/nrQrgp.gif)

“Yeah! Rock n’ roll baby! Ahhhhhhhhh.”


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 28, 2017, 05:33:21 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!

Who?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on September 28, 2017, 05:55:03 PM
C'mon Shawn,
Really Franco worst Mr. O?
Maybe 1981 but not in 1976 or a prime Franco. Worlds strongest ever even by todays standards at 185lbs.
Worst Mr. O hands down is your friend Chris Dickerson, Chris shouldn't even made top 3 in any 80's contest.
Just a Horrible and ugly shape for a physique...Bill Pearls gifted Olympia trainee buddy as well.
1981 should have gave gone to Tom Platz.
1982 should be Samir Bannout's Olympia


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on September 28, 2017, 06:02:12 PM
No.
That would be Franco. :o


Glad to see honest opinion on here, Shawn. :D
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Wow just awesome Pics of Franco!! Thx Bosch


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 06:18:32 PM
Shopped

Nope, i used MSPaint.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on September 28, 2017, 06:19:34 PM
Did Squadfather ever make you melt?  He induced meltdowns on numerous pros in his day.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pete Nice on September 28, 2017, 06:30:26 PM
welcome back sean

Sean Rey was great in his day.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
Do you think Phil Heath's gut was out of control this Olympia?

Pictures don't lie but he wasn't alone.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Shawn who was the better bodybuilder, you or Danny Padilla?

Danny was good but I doubt he could ever beat; Levrone, Wheeler, Nasser or Coleman but I did so you tell me.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 06:39:48 PM
Shawn, just like you, Dave Palumbo likes to joke around, but I don't believe that's making him a 'troll'. Would you accept Dave's offer to do a 'Live with..' interview?

No, he has zero credibility.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 06:40:42 PM
Danny was good but I doubt he could ever beat; Levrone, Wheeler, Nasser or Coleman but I did so you tell me.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/DsFhEEGzo9LVu/giphy.gif)


Shawn


What would you do if Sadik refused to give you back the mic?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 28, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
is mike o'hair natty breh?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 28, 2017, 06:57:46 PM
Who was better, Ronnie or Dorian?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 28, 2017, 07:03:28 PM
Like him or hate him (and many do), can't deny he had a terrific physique.

LOL this reminded me when Piana died and suddenly everyone only had nice things to say about the big fella'


" Like him or hate him Piana always told it like it was "  ;D

Cant wait for Levroneeeeeee to join this board


That'd be the thread not to miss



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  BE YE KE



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: polychronopolous on September 28, 2017, 07:16:27 PM
hey Shawn what's up not much here


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 07:25:25 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/DsFhEEGzo9LVu/giphy.gif)


Shawn


What would you do if Sadik refused to give you back the mic?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 07:32:03 PM

Shawn

You seemed quite insistant on that Sadik shouldn't hold or get the mic from you.

It did seem that you did give a shit.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 28, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
Shawn how did Milos sneak back into America without getting arrested?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: agust on September 28, 2017, 07:48:54 PM
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?,  you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
 
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it





Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 07:50:57 PM
Shawn how did Milos sneak back into America without getting arrested?

X2. Please update us on the Milos situation.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 28, 2017, 08:00:59 PM
guys please sign up for any questons for sean rehy in the new pay section


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 08:18:37 PM
X2. Please update us on the Milos situation.

No Idea but I Bet he will find away to screw up again. :P


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: HTexan on September 28, 2017, 08:21:34 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!

Question 1: If you could give your young self one piece of advice, what would it be?
Question 2: Who in your opinion is the most under rated beer of all time?
Question 3: funniest gym story


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: jude2 on September 28, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
X2. Please update us on the Milos situation.
I was thinking the same thing. Dude is crazy to come back.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 28, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
Shawn, does Kamali make it to 2018 or does he fall off the cliff chasing a pie?

(http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/Guy_In_Armor/Pivot%20Animations/JumpoffaCliffcollab.gif)

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/243060838c8ffbcdca127c90f6554ec6/tumblr_inline_n87uufyJvp1rbs9l6.gif)

(https://penguinbears.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aligator-animation.gif)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: muscleman-2017 on September 28, 2017, 09:36:14 PM
Shawn, please share your thoughts on the following....

The Delray Misfits, Big Lenny and Jason Genova are more popular than any mainstream bodybuilder today.

Shawn it seems your silence has answered my question.

You have no way to deny it.

Modern bodybuilders cannot compete for popularity with this...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M4VVtYVRzM8/maxresdefault.jpg)




Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on September 28, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
No.
That would be Franco. :o


Glad to see honest opinion on here, Shawn. :D
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Franco looks great there. But I think Shawn was talking about Franco's 1981 version. Agree, the worst Mr.Olympia ever.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 09:59:03 PM
Jesus Christ, Vince. Enough with the blue damn stars ::)

Jesus Christ but you are one dense asshole. I couldn't give a damn about those silly stars but I love shit stirring.

Most guys who lift weights are too dumb to know when someone is having fun. If you and Shizzo really believe

I want those Blue Stars then no wonder you react like you do. I prefer that Ron breaks his own rules and not

give them to me. Suits me just fine.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 10:05:19 PM
Shawn, is there anyway to prove this is really you?  I'm more inclined to think that your account has been hacked by joon. 

I hope this helps😎


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 10:08:36 PM
What you, Shawn Ray.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
SHAWN ,,,OPINION ON THE GREAT LEE HANEY AND ESPECIALLY COMPETING AGAINST HIM?

He answered that in a 1990 isue oif Flex magazine - Shawn said that Lee had certain weaknesses such as a [I believe] small arms, lack of overall hardness, and lack of detail in his lower back.  Shawn said it was his intention to exploit these weaknesses in the champion.  8)

Then in the Battle for the Olympia 20 video, he said similar things about Ronnie.  ;D Ten years later, new champion, but same woes  :-\ - just proof that Shawn would have needed to do what it took to put on the 15-lb of muscle it would have taken for him to compare more favourably to Lee, Dorian, and Ronnie.  And you know what?  I think most on here can agree that it is a good thing that he did NOT do those things. He would be paying the price for it today, health-wise, if he had. Troy Alves could have put on 15-lb more mass too, but I think he purposely stayed away from the chemicals necessary to make that happen.

I used to think all pros had the same mentality, but Shawn and Lee Haney and some others are proof that longevity is more important and that there is more to life. Sadly, Nasser's life needs to be seen as a cautionary tale.

Come to think of it, that article where Shawn discussed Le Haney's weaknesses may have been Muscle & Fitness, and it may have been leading up to the 1991 Mr. Olympia contest. Great article - if I find it, I will scan it and post it here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on September 28, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
No GH and Insulin were not part of Bodybuilding for me and my career.

I remember you mentioning this to me years ago when I asked you in person, this was 2002/2003, and I believe you. You said straight up no insulin

Shawn, do you know how tom prince is doing these days?

Also remember the days of Richard Jones, (heard he was making a comeback like 50x) you brought him up, helped get him a Weider contract worth almost 100k and he turned his back on you?

What’s the deal with Melvin Anthony? He’s in prison now?

Forgot your story on Silvio Samuel and the furniture he apparently sold  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2017, 10:47:13 PM
I don't know why Shawn gets any hate.  Guy seems to be one of the smartest bbers ever.  Didn't abuse the drugs, trained smart, handled his own marketing and business.  Did it the right way.

I agree 100%.  Not trying to kiss Shawn's ass because he's posting here, it's just the truth.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 28, 2017, 10:48:34 PM
I remember you mentioning this to me years ago when I asked you in person, this was 2002/2003, and I believe you. You said straight up no insulin

Shawn, do you know how tom prince is doing these days?

Also remember the days of Richard Jones, (heard he was making a comeback like 50x) you brought him up, helped get him a Weider contract worth almost 100k and he turned his back on you?

What’s the deal with Melvin Anthony? He’s in prison now?

Forgot your story on Silvio Samuel and the furniture he apparently sold  ;D

I never really knew Tom as in "The person or athlete."
Richard Jones wasn't cut out for this sport but genetically gifted and Uber Smart!
Melvin? Predictable.
Silvio, well let's just say I was warned to be cautious helping this kid and yes I lost my furniture in the end I let him use to help him out.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 10:54:51 PM
Come on, Vince. Respectfully, you've been around the game for a very long time. Been there, done that. You've given a lot to the muscle game and shared some great stories.

But don't try to make us think you weren't earnest in asking Shawn to give you blue stars. It's obvious that you do still want them. Frankly, it's obvious that you deserve them. I can't answer the question of why Ron hasn't given them to you... but it's something you are clearly still hung up about.

I generally don't like to get involved... but come on now. At your age, it's time to be honest with yourself.

Seems that most people believe what they read. Literally. If it is on the net it must be true. So I post about those lame Blue Stars and people immediately think, here he goes again. Just stirring which I am quite good at seeing that so many fall for it.

One of the components of my humour is to repeat things over and over. Instead of others being amused they conclude I am some whinger complaining about the colour of avatar stars.

Just when you think I have forgotten about them I bring the subject up.....for amusement.

Hope this helps.

Ron said I competed too long ago. Truth is I fearlessly criticize the IFBB and that infamous Pro League. And Bob the patsy Chick.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 10:57:04 PM
There was a FLEX mag back around 2000 where they listed the ultimate bodybuilder, comprised of different bodyparts. Arnold was chest and maybe arms, Mike Matarazzo was calves (I think), shoulders went to Levrone, etc. I think Shawn Ray was given best abs.  8)

I would agree Shawn had the sickest abs.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on September 28, 2017, 11:02:13 PM
I hope this helps😎


Yes, However, Shizzo answered for you on your favorite pool side drink.

Are you two close? :D




Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2017, 11:10:07 PM
An important question, Shawn:

1) Why are getbiggers such hypocrites?  :D :D When you were not posting, they were saying you were overrated and you complain too much. Now, they are singing your praise because you're posting again. Can you explain this phenomenon?

x1000. Shawn's constantly bashed on this board. Just like virtually every single pro bber. But when a pro actually shows up they become obsequious, fawning puppy dogs.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2017, 11:23:39 PM
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?,  you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
 
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it


I was dreading a post like this. Where someone posts their daily diet listing every damn piece of food they eat, and asking a pro bber their opinion.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: trapz101 on September 28, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!



chiwawa keeping it real!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 11:31:29 PM
Milos always felt you wanted his gym. But Koloseum Gym, Fullerton closed after Milomar betrayed him. Why didn't you buy it then?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 28, 2017, 11:55:22 PM
Vince, seems I was wrong. It's sometimes hard to interpret humor or sarcasm over the net.

Mass with class.

No worries! :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2017, 12:01:25 AM
Shawn, how long preparation did you have to get in this shape? And what year was it?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745396;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on September 29, 2017, 12:08:34 AM
It's about damn time to come back, Shawn. Many waited for your return


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: kreator on September 29, 2017, 12:23:56 AM
tell us about Mr. Olympia private after parties, word is some really sick orgy shit used to go down


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bro Scientist on September 29, 2017, 12:33:50 AM
Good to have you back Sean.

I am a GB original.  Been back and forth in time out for over a decade.  Using a new account.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 12:35:49 AM
Good to have you back Sean.

I am a GB original.  Been back and forth in time out for over a decade.  Using a new account.

 ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 29, 2017, 12:47:13 AM
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?,  you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
 
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it





Su entrenamiento está bién documentado, así como su dieta. Pesquisa un poquito.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2017, 12:59:39 AM
::)

Bro Scientist has always been a big fan of Shaun C.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on September 29, 2017, 01:52:06 AM
I'm glad that those of you who were not around the first time are getting a very clearly stated confirmation of why I have often said that s.ray belonged here with the haters :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 29, 2017, 02:49:32 AM
I never really knew Tom as in "The person or athlete."
Richard Jones wasn't cut out for this sport but genetically gifted and Uber Smart!
Melvin? Predictable.
Silvio, well let's just say I was warned to be cautious helping this kid and yes I lost my furniture in the end I let him use to help him out.
Rich was in LE, correct? And I think had an issue with what "he needed to do" to take it to the next level. Do you think Classic Physique is a good fit for him?
On Melvin, he had the genetics to be on top, just not the drive.
And Silvio, since he is out of prison and making strides, so you think he can do well?
Agreed about what you said about Brandon Curry.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 29, 2017, 03:08:26 AM
Seems that most people believe what they read. Literally. If it is on the net it must be true. So I post about those lame Blue Stars and people immediately think, here he goes again. Just stirring which I am quite good at seeing that so many fall for it.

One of the components of my humour is to repeat things over and over. Instead of others being amused they conclude I am some whinger complaining about the colour of avatar stars.

Just when you think I have forgotten about them I bring the subject up.....for amusement.

Hope this helps.

Ron said I competed too long ago. Truth is I fearlessly criticize the IFBB and that infamous Pro League. And Bob the patsy Chick.


Stop trying to make this thread about yourself.   Be quiet you old turtle.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 29, 2017, 03:14:28 AM
i wondered how long it would be before you posted in this thread.

So, Melvin, are you and Shawn related?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 29, 2017, 03:15:20 AM
i wondered how long it would be before you posted in this thread.

So, Melvin, are you and Shawn related?

I guess they all look alike to you.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2017, 03:32:11 AM
i wondered how long it would be before you posted in this thread.

So, Melvin, are you and Shawn related?

They all look alike to me.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2017, 03:33:16 AM
Seems that most people believe what they read. Literally. If it is on the net it must be true. So I post about those lame Blue Stars and people immediately think, here he goes again. Just stirring which I am quite good at seeing that so many fall for it.

One of the components of my humour is to repeat things over and over. Instead of others being amused they conclude I am some whinger complaining about the colour of avatar stars.

Just when you think I have forgotten about them I bring the subject up.....for amusement.

Hope this helps.

Ron said I competed too long ago. Truth is I fearlessly criticize the IFBB and that infamous Pro League. And Bob the patsy Chick.

What exactly did you say about the IFBB too long ago Vince?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 06:06:10 AM
Milos always felt you wanted his gym. But Koloseum Gym, Fullerton closed after Milomar betrayed him. Why didn't you buy it then?

He's a dumbass conspiracy Theorist.
I never wanted that gym or any gym.
I've always thought the gym business was a "Money Pit!"
Maybe that's why he was convicted of Steaking Money from his own gym.
Things that make you go, "Hhhhhmmmm...?" ???


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 06:08:05 AM
tell us about Mr. Olympia private after parties, word is some really sick orgy shit used to go down

I wouldn't know, I never went to any.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 29, 2017, 06:14:19 AM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!


great to have you here shawn :)

do you think dorian at his best could have beaten ronnie at his best?  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 29, 2017, 06:14:58 AM
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.

Basile or Goodrum in a pose down currently? 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 06:26:21 AM
Rich was in LE, correct? And I think had an issue with what "he needed to do" to take it to the next level. Do you think Classic Physique is a good fit for him?
On Melvin, he had the genetics to be on top, just not the drive.
And Silvio, since he is out of prison and making strides, so you think he can do well?
Agreed about what you said about Brandon Curry.

RJ is in San Diego. Classic would have been an excellent choice for him back in the day, it's too late now.
True, he was not willing to jeapordy s his health for more Size. Smart move for him.

Silvio already had Heart Issues and Jaundice Eyes. Coming back won't have a Happy Ending for him.

Melvin was too distracted to focus on becoming Great! Women & Chasing Money were huge distractions for him.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 06:27:19 AM
great to have you here shawn :)

do you think dorian at his best could have beaten ronnie at his best?  ;D ;D

No.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 29, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.

Why not? You don't like free drugs and pussy?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Trev on September 29, 2017, 06:41:34 AM

Does anyone care enough about pro bodybuilding to save it? I haven't been to a show for nearly 20 years now - Loved it in the '90's


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 29, 2017, 06:44:11 AM
It is widely known that eating 15 almonds is extremely beneficial, but anything over that can be catastrophic.

Have you ever accidently eaten a 16th almond, and, if so, what detrimental effects did you experience, and what scientific methods did you learn over your career that you were able to utilize to survive?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 29, 2017, 06:51:08 AM
Shawn Ray should have used this song in his last thong battles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_e5oYqNRSM


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on September 29, 2017, 06:55:15 AM
...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on September 29, 2017, 07:08:06 AM
tell us about Mr. Olympia private after parties, word is some really sick orgy shit used to go down

You are asking the wrong person, ask Cormier about those


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on September 29, 2017, 07:17:24 AM
A prime flex, Kevin, Shawn would have beaten phil at his best

And as far as physique goes and not bbing competitions or wins Shawn was better than dexter


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 29, 2017, 07:26:55 AM
Shawn, is the guru to blame for Dallas McCarvers untimely death?
What did you do to relax in your spare time whilst competing? Movies? Playstation?
What really happened Orville Burke?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on September 29, 2017, 07:45:32 AM
Flex Wheeler was diagnosed with CKD and still pushed himself competing for many years post diagnosis and only retired once he was hospitalised for dialysis and then a transplant.

This seems to be a reocurring theme.

What's your take on bodybuilders not able to call it a day despite glaring health issues?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on September 29, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Also:

We don't know what happened to Mustapha Muhammad, Orville Burke...etc.

Do you have an insight on bodybuilders who suddenly and suspiciously dissapeared off the radar? I am presuming due to health issues?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on September 29, 2017, 07:49:30 AM
Also:

We don't know what happened to Mustapha Muhammad, Orville Burke...etc.

Do you have an insight on bodybuilders who suddenly and suspiciously dissapeared off the radar? I am presuming due to health issues?

No. One found Allah and the other found Jesus.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: a_pupil on September 29, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
what was your dieting style?

why do you think the new pros rely so heavily on coaths/gurus whereas in mid-90s and earlier all the greats did their own diets. i'm guessing it might have to do with supplements being procured from the doctors back in the day.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2017, 08:51:55 AM
Shawn Ray - Is The House!!!! `

As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

Shaun, who was the white bodybuilder (that you competed against) that you respected the most?

Was it Dorian?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 08:55:29 AM
Shaun, who was the white bodybuilder (that you competed against) that you respected the most?

Was it Dorian?

I didnt pay attention to "Color" these guys were competing for the same thing I desired, needed and wanted.
Never had to do with Respect.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on September 29, 2017, 08:58:18 AM
Shawn,

what is your opinion of Black Lives Matter? Do you support this group?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: musclecenter on September 29, 2017, 08:59:50 AM
Shawn, what do you think about the dispute between NPC and IFBB amateur ? thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: Taffin on September 29, 2017, 09:16:37 AM
greetings from Argentina,
the most complete and aesthetic physique. I have two simple questions, in a normal day that was what you ate ?,  you prefer a heavy training with few series, or with volume and about 12 repetitions doing a total of 25 sets per muscle. I feed is based on oats rice, sweet potatoes, chicken and eggs, since I have very little money, as a fruit per day and I use in two meals half a tomato.sorry for my English
that could improve from my diet?
 
first meal egg with oats, chicken with rice, 6 hard boiled eggs with half tomato chicken with sweet potatoes, chicken with 2 fried eggs and in the last meal chicken here would not know to combine it


Su entrenamiento está bién documentado, así como su dieta. Pesquisa un poquito.

Mi amigo, todo lo que necesitas saber es de seis gramos es el punto dulce...  ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Redux on September 29, 2017, 09:28:44 AM
Shawn, what's your opinion of the amount of protein a bodybuilder really needs each day?
Have you spoken to Chris Cormier lately? If so, what's he up to?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2017, 10:03:01 AM

Melvin was too distracted to focus on becoming Great! Women & Chasing Money were huge distractions for him.


 ;) Good man - cant knock him for that.
plus an awesome physique.

How has he ended up in prison.??


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on September 29, 2017, 11:39:43 AM
A prime flex, Kevin, Shawn would have beaten phil at his best



obviously i like all of them more, but based on how shows are judged i'm not sure any of them beat phil

phil doesn't have any bodyparts that can be considered lagging and he is always well conditioned

E



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 29, 2017, 11:49:13 AM

Stop trying to make this thread about yourself.   Be quiet you old turtle.

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
Shawn, is the guru to blame for Dallas McCarvers untimely death?
What did you do to relax in your spare time whilst competing? Movies? Playstation?
What really happened Orville Burke?

Put it this way,"The Guru" didn't help him be healthier.

When I want to relax, Bodybuilding doesn't play a role in the activities I choose: Comedy Clubs, Movies, Art Galleries, Brunches, Dinners, Sporting Events- Football, UFC, Concerts, Kids Gymnastics & Dance Competitions.
I've never played Play Station.

Orville Burke got hurt doing a photo shoot. Never heard from him again. We weren't friends.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
Also:

We don't know what happened to Mustapha Muhammad, Orville Burke...etc.

Do you have an insight on bodybuilders who suddenly and suspiciously dissapeared off the radar? I am presuming due to health issues?

No. I didn't follow the athletes to the degree I would know what they are doing or if they are healthy.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
Shawn,

what is your opinion of Black Lives Matter? Do you support this group?

I'm not a member or part of any "Groups."


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:14:54 PM
Shawn, what do you think about the dispute between NPC and IFBB amateur ? thanks in advance.

As a former NPC National Overall Champion I can tell you the decision for the Pro League to finally Globalize their Mission Statement was long over due.
#ProLeague👌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:30:10 PM
 :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 01:31:50 PM
Shawn, what's your opinion of the amount of protein a bodybuilder really needs each day?
Have you spoken to Chris Cormier lately? If so, what's he up to?

Regarding how much protein a person eats has never been a preoccupation of mine back then, now or ever.

I see Chris often, he's good 💪🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 01:35:55 PM
Regarding how much protein a person eats has never been a preoccupation of mine back then, now or ever.

I see Chris often, he's good 💪🏽


Chris doesnt look too good on there Shawn, looks like you are both holding him upright.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 29, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
Chris doesnt look too good on there Shawn, looks like you are both holding him upright.

(https://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/weekendatbernies.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
...

A look into the delusional mind of Shawn Ray. Said he was going to beat Lee Haney , failed , Said he was going to beat Dorian Yates, failed , reduced to slandering Ronnie Coleman on the night he was at his best ever. So bitter  ;D

Acknowledges it's fair that Ronnie beat Flex but his placing was unfair   ::) one contradiction after the next , He can't compete with Ronnie on size? He didn't need to he couldn't compete with Nasser on size either and beat him multiple times , The size excuse holds no water.

Shawn you simply weren't in Lee Haney , Dorians and Ronnie's league



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on September 29, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
I am hearing great things about the Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic taking place this November.  You have big shoes to fill, replacing the oldest running and largest NPC show in Hawaii, but according to the coconut wireless, you are doing a fabulous job. 

And check your PM.   :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: macgyver on September 29, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
A look into the delusional mind of Shawn Ray. Said he was going to beat Lee Haney , failed , Said he was going to beat Dorian Yates, failed , reduced to slandering Ronnie Coleman on the night he was at his best ever. So bitter  ;D

Acknowledges it's fair that Ronnie beat Flex but his placing was unfair   ::) one contradiction after the next , He can't compete with Ronnie on size? He didn't need to he couldn't compete with Nasser on size either and beat him multiple times , The size excuse holds no water.

Shawn you simply weren't in Lee Haney , Dorians and Ronnie's league




Just because he didn't get an "o", doesn't mean he's not in their league.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Slapper on September 29, 2017, 02:49:21 PM
You're still whining about... Haven't changed a bit.

In all seriousness, it's nice to see you're healthy and enjoying life!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2017, 02:51:09 PM

Just because he didn't get an "o", doesn't mean he's not in their league.

No he's not in their league because they all won multiple contests NOT just multiple Olympias , Shawn 2 pro wins  ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: che on September 29, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Shawn  what do you think about the height and weight requirements for the classic physique category ?
  

Personally I think that a classic aesthetic physique has nothing to do with numbers.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/1TQv36Z2KtSslwAzJFcUTaF-R09d83ghZcnKdXQMjWo.jpg?w=424&s=caec1595d355c8c88d09a25f30f644ab)

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(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/22.jpg)



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 29, 2017, 02:54:33 PM
He's a dumbass conspiracy Theorist.
I never wanted that gym or any gym.
I've always thought the gym business was a "Money Pit!"
Maybe that's why he was convicted of Steaking Money from his own gym.
Things that make you go, "Hhhhhmmmm...?" ???

Don't most people that own gyms do it as a way to sell drugs?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 29, 2017, 02:55:44 PM
How much did Ron pay you to come back here to drive up traffic?  Was it the 2 or 3 combo plate from Panda Express?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 29, 2017, 03:51:17 PM
I am hearing great things about the Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic taking place this November.  You have big shoes to fill, replacing the oldest running and largest NPC show in Hawaii, but according to the coconut wireless, you are doing a fabulous job. 

And check your PM.   :)

Mahalo🤙🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2017, 05:06:55 PM
He's a dumbass conspiracy Theorist.
I never wanted that gym or any gym.
I've always thought the gym business was a "Money Pit!"
Maybe that's why he was convicted of Steaking Money from his own gym.
Things that make you go, "Hhhhhmmmm...?" ???
You should have bought it so you could have banned Greg/Gary....the dude that slapped you around for trying to steal his bench between sets. ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2017, 05:11:19 PM
I am hearing great things about the Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic taking place this November.  You have big shoes to fill, replacing the oldest running and largest NPC show in Hawaii, but according to the coconut wireless, you are doing a fabulous job. 

And check your PM.   :)

Hopefully the judges have improved a good bit.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2017, 05:15:59 PM
Here's a few questions if you have time :

 1 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Successful Pro Ever? (Arnold Excluded)

 2 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Tragic Pro Ever?  (Titus excluded)

 3 - What is your honest opinion on the pre-made ready to drink protein shakes you see on the shelves.  Like Myoplex, Met Rx, Muscle Milk, etc...  any protein drink already pre made.  I have heard from others that these are a poor choice that the process of making them and the time of sitting on the shelf has denatured the product greatly.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on September 29, 2017, 05:33:31 PM
Hopefully the judges have improved a good bit.

 ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: andreisdaman on September 29, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Hey Shawn ....good to have you back..you're a legend!....

I was at the 2001 Olympia and you looked fantastic...I had you for second place...no way Levrone beat you...I was happy that I got to see you in your last show...

I was attending the Olympia press conference as well and you seemed to be in a really foul mood....I remember you got into an argument with a female judge after she criticized your physique and said "Shawn, you always think you should win but your physique hasn't changed in years"....you then pointed out that her statement was proof that she was biased against you and she was removed as a judge..what are your feelings about that incident?

Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat...who was that guy again?  and whatever happened to him?>..he pretty much disappeared after that

Thanks for coming back Shawn


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Schmoff on September 29, 2017, 05:39:31 PM
shawn,

what do you think of this guy?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=491677.0;attach=533009;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sceagacros on September 29, 2017, 05:59:34 PM
^ Ouch.......

Well she IS wider than Cheath.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 29, 2017, 06:58:03 PM
Good to see Shawn in here. A legend of the sport.
But the only question I have at this time, if anyone in here knows a good link for some skittles. With The Fall, comes that Blues, so its time to get jacked!!!
Thanks, Guys. Thanks, Shawn for taking the time


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 07:03:45 PM
Here's a few questions if you have time :

 1 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Successful Pro Ever? (Arnold Excluded)

 2 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Tragic Pro Ever?  (Titus excluded)

 3 - What is your honest opinion on the pre-made ready to drink protein shakes you see on the shelves.  Like Myoplex, Met Rx, Muscle Milk, etc...  any protein drink already pre made.  I have heard from others that these are a poor choice that the process of making them and the time of sitting on the shelf has denatured the product greatly.

Would you exclude Stan Efferding as well?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 29, 2017, 07:22:25 PM
Shawn  what do you think about the height and weight requirements for the classic physique category ?
  

Personally I think that a classic aesthetic physique has nothing to do with numbers.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/1TQv36Z2KtSslwAzJFcUTaF-R09d83ghZcnKdXQMjWo.jpg?w=424&s=caec1595d355c8c88d09a25f30f644ab)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/14207756_1099849276751493_3442017206750967_o.jpg?oh=28067a3e4bc9c6bd304bf49f7004926e&oe=5A552495)

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/22.jpg)



i think they set a maximum weight for each height.. shorter guys must weigh lighter than taller guys in order not to have short blocky bbrs like the 212 class..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 29, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Shawn, when you were competing, have you ever stuffed your posing trunk with a sock?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 29, 2017, 07:27:05 PM
Shawn, when you were competing, have you ever stuffed your posing trunk with a sock?

Dude, I'm sure someone else already bought it.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 29, 2017, 07:40:12 PM
Dude, I'm sure someone else already bought it.

Definitely a getbigger purchased it!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 29, 2017, 07:58:35 PM
Neither Shawn or Melvin will even acknowledge the question about whether they are related. What does this tell us? Well, Melvin Goodrum would like to boast he is related to a pro. He posted recently that he was going to speak with Shawn about some current issue. Made me wonder how he got Shawn's phone number. Melvin stated a few times that he was related to a professional bodybuilder. Could be where he got so much insider info in the past. So why keep this relationship a secret? Goodrum doesn't benefit by keeping this secret. Shawn might be embarrassed to be related to the resident buffoon. Whatever the reasons they are serious. They should both come out of the closet so to speak. Both have responded to posts I made in this thread but didn't address the relationship question. I mean, why wouldn't Shawn state clearly that he is definitely NOT related to Melvin Goodrum if he wasn't? That strongly suggests that he is related. Otherwise he wouldn't hesitate to deny it. Melvin can't admit it because he is committed to not revealing that fact. So their lack of a response or acknowlegment is a confirmation that they are, indeed, related.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on September 29, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!


"Haters"?!  How Phildoesque of you to use that term.  Otherwise, welcome. Back.  I guess. 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Tennisballz on September 29, 2017, 08:48:35 PM

Ferrigno and aceto working with cormier now?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on September 29, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
obviously i like all of them more, but based on how shows are judged i'm not sure any of them beat phil

phil doesn't have any bodyparts that can be considered lagging and he is always well conditioned

E



I agree

I think all those mentioned are better and as much hate phil gets his real weakness is his width (of course the gut but that’s majority of pros) he’s complete and always conditioned

With how the judging criteria is judged and how different eras we are in I wouldn’t put it past them in phil beating all of them in this current state


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Shawn, what's your opinion of the amount of protein a bodybuilder really needs each day?
Have you spoken to Chris Cormier lately? If so, what's he up to?

back n forth from palm springs area and LA training people.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sancho ed on September 29, 2017, 09:35:57 PM
Welcome back shawn. Always nice to have a pro talking to us "youngsters" at getbig. How do u think u would do in todays open class? A prime shawn vs a prime dexter, who takes it?? (: and do u think nasser should have won in 97?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 29, 2017, 09:43:22 PM
Welcome back shawn. Always nice to have a pro talking to us "youngsters" at getbig. How do u think u would do in todays open class? A prime shawn vs a prime dexter, who takes it?? (: and do u think nasser should have won in 97?

shawn is busy today covering the prague pro show so i will answer you on his behalf:

shawn had beaten dex more than once before he retired and i dont think dex physique has changed dramatically since then..

as for the 97 olympia shawn saw himself or nasser (apple vs. orange) deserved to win more than dorian..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: cephissus on September 29, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
Do you agree with the general consensus around here that today's bodybuilders are worse than those of the 90s?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: seCrawler on September 30, 2017, 02:05:45 AM
Who is the best dancer, Tatim McQuay or Asia Monet Ray, Shawn?  I thought I'd try something different since 90% of these questions were answered years ago.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on September 30, 2017, 02:34:43 AM
MD seeing the type of reception that Shawn is getting at Getbig...... :-*

MD and Getbig work well together.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DooM_ on September 30, 2017, 03:07:14 AM
Do you agree with the general consensus around here that today's bodybuilders are worse than those of the 90s?

x2


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 30, 2017, 06:16:56 AM

Just a 3rd party opinion here,- Probably because


3, its Getbig


Winner.

BeThere is operating within the context of this place.  If someone can't effectively counter, they lose.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2017, 06:21:27 AM
My 2 cents, but I believe that you're a minority. Even Shizzo is more 'amusing'
Anyway, I respect your different opinion.

Like wise I respect what you have to say.
 
Though that idiot shizzo & the absolute drivel he posts I cant stand
clearly many others also cant stand him & are always asking for him to be banned again

Ha - opinions we've all got them.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 06:28:06 AM
Like wise I respect what you have to say.
 
Though that idiot shizzo & the absolute drivel he posts I cant stand
clearly many others also cant stand him & are always asking for him to be banned again

Ha - opinions we've all got them.

Shizzo also made fun of gymrats cancer and a war veteran.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 06:31:34 AM
this thread proving even Shawn Ray is less important than the drivel that is "getbig"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on September 30, 2017, 06:35:18 AM
Like wise I respect what you have to say.
 
Though that idiot shizzo & the absolute drivel he posts I cant stand
clearly many others also cant stand him & are always asking for him to be banned again


Ha - opinions we've all got them.

I think he posted on MD, and his posts were ok.  I have not noticed the quality of his posts here.  I fear that some people on Getbig get trashed for no good reason...I will have to watch this one in the future.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Hey Shawn ....good to have you back..you're a legend!....

I was at the 2001 Olympia and you looked fantastic...I had you for second place...no way Levrone beat you...I was happy that I got to see you in your last show...

I was attending the Olympia press conference as well and you seemed to be in a really foul mood....I remember you got into an argument with a female judge after she criticized your physique and said "Shawn, you always think you should win but your physique hasn't changed in years"....you then pointed out that her statement was proof that she was biased against you and she was removed as a judge..what are your feelings about that incident?

Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat...who was that guy again?  and whatever happened to him?>..he pretty much disappeared after that

Thanks for coming back Shawn

NewsFlash:

I wasn't in a Foul Mood until the Judge, Late DeShay Ebert revealed Publically what she thought Privately. She was from Texas a "Ronnie Coleman Loyalist" who believed he was unbeatable. She pled her case and got herself Removed. I took no Formal Action to that end. Once she spoke, he opportunity to judge unbiased is what got her Canned! All I did was shed light on her Bias Opinions that would affect more than just me on the Olympia stage.

I have no idea bout you're Cat Story.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:46:54 AM
shawn,

what do you think of this guy?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=491677.0;attach=533009;image)

Looks better than a few board posters here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2017, 06:49:05 AM
Looks better than a few board posters here.

 :o Maybe
And you would hit that..??

I hope not Shawn   ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:50:32 AM
Neither Shawn or Melvin will even acknowledge the question about whether they are related. What does this tell us? Well, Melvin Goodrum would like to boast he is related to a pro. He posted recently that he was going to speak with Shawn about some current issue. Made me wonder how he got Shawn's phone number. Melvin stated a few times that he was related to a professional bodybuilder. Could be where he got so much insider info in the past. So why keep this relationship a secret? Goodrum doesn't benefit by keeping this secret. Shawn might be embarrassed to be related to the resident buffoon. Whatever the reasons they are serious. They should both come out of the closet so to speak. Both have responded to posts I made in this thread but didn't address the relationship question. I mean, why wouldn't Shawn state clearly that he is definitely NOT related to Melvin Goodrum if he wasn't? That strongly suggests that he is related. Otherwise he wouldn't hesitate to deny it. Melvin can't admit it because he is committed to not revealing that fact. So their lack of a response or acknowlegment is a confirmation that they are, indeed, related.


No.
We are not related.
I hope this helps you sleep better.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2017, 06:51:14 AM
NewsFlash:
I wasn't in a Foul Mood until the Judge, Late DeShay Ebert revealed Oublically what she thought Privatekt. She was from Texas a "Ronnie Coleman Loyalist" who believed he was unbeatable.
She pled her case and got herself Removed. I took no Formal Action to that end. Once she spoke, he opportunity to judge unbiased is what got her Canned! All I did was shed light on her Bias Opinions that would affect more than just me on the Olympia stage.

I have no idea bout you're Cat Story.

Do many pro bodybuilders have cats?

Like the one Andre is talking about, the BB:er who used to talk about his cat.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:52:05 AM
Shawn, what are some of the highlights of your career as a bodybuilder?

What are the things you're most proud of in your life, both in bodybuilding and in general?


Winning the Mr Cal & Nationals Overall 1987!
I'm also very proud of my kids 💪🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:54:06 AM
Welcome back shawn. Always nice to have a pro talking to us "youngsters" at getbig. How do u think u would do in todays open class? A prime shawn vs a prime dexter, who takes it?? (: and do u think nasser should have won in 97?

I win.
No. Nasser 2nd, Dorian 3rd me 1st in 1997


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 06:56:27 AM
Do you agree with the general consensus around here that today's bodybuilders are worse than those of the 90s?
Yes. Stevie Wonder can see that from here👍🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 06:56:51 AM
I win.
No. Nasser 2nd, Dorian 3rd me 1st in 1997

Heed your own advice


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 07:05:26 AM
Do many pro bodybuilders have cats?

Like the one Andre is talking about, the BB:er who used to talk about his cat.

How in the fuck would I know if bodybuilders like cats, I own a dog.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2017, 07:10:15 AM
How in the fuck would I know if bodybuilders like cats, I own a dog.

Andre insinuated that you got upset with a cat-owner.

Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2017, 07:11:27 AM
You should have bought it so you could have banned Greg/Gary....the dude that slapped you around for trying to steal his bench between sets. ;D
???


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Eric2 on September 30, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
So is this "Shawn Ray" a gimmick or not? If your the real deal. What was it like knowing this guy was always going to best you, even when his arms where fucked up.

(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/gallery_slide_612xany/public/media/2015%20Article%20Content/Dorian%20Yates_%20R.%20Gardner026_0.jpg?itok=f8D3O9Rl)

(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2009/09/wu2ioh-1.jpg)

Also how long did it take you to realize you would never be awarded the top prize?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/Suy3xoN-yxI/AAAAAAAABbI/9zmP4_suero/s400/000+Mr+Olympia+1997.JPG)

(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2016/01/7270eb0d07d7ea854e3e2adac72f236d-1.jpg)

And yes I am trolling for fun. It's so funny how when your gone from the board you are trash talked. Yet when you come back so many want to climb aboard your wagon. It seems so fake to me.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 07:39:29 AM
we just need Lee Haney to sign up now....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 07:39:55 AM
So is this "Shawn Ray" a gimmick or not? If your the real deal. What was it like knowing this guy was always going to best you, even when his arms where fucked up.



It's really Shawn.....also, even on his best day Dorian Yates looked like a bag of smashed assholes.  He almost singlehandedly destroyed the sport.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 07:40:31 AM
It's really Shawn.....also, even on his best day Dorian Yates looked like a bag of smashed assholes.  He almost singlehandedly destroyed the sport.

Shame, I expected better than this.....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Eric2 on September 30, 2017, 07:40:54 AM
we just need Lee Haney to sign up now....

No shit, Dorian would be great. Also ain't nuttin but a peanut as well.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Eric2 on September 30, 2017, 07:42:42 AM
It's really Shawn.....also, even on his best day Dorian Yates looked like a bag of smashed assholes.  He almost singlehandedly destroyed the sport.

Hahaha. Oh man, that's too much. So your admitting that Dorian had great power in that he single handedly destroyed the sport?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 07:43:52 AM
Hahaha. Oh man, that's too much. So your admitting that Dorian had great power in that he single handedly destroyed the sport?

nope, the internet destroyed bodybuilding....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
Shame, I expected better than this.....

Of all the things that someone could give me shit about, you chose that?  ¿Por qué?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Eric2 on September 30, 2017, 07:45:50 AM
nope, the internet destroyed bodybuilding....

To some extent yes.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 07:48:06 AM
Hahaha. Oh man, that's too much. So your admitting that Dorian had great power in that he single handedly destroyed the sport?

He set the standard because he was Mr O every year.  Dude looked like a huge, grainy lump of shit.  Everyone destroyed their physiques chasing him.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Ugly on September 30, 2017, 07:58:45 AM
Yes. Stevie Wonder can see that from here👍🏽

Mr. Wonder is blind, sir. The dark glasses, c'mon. Ray Charles can see that shit.

Also, why do you hate cats?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2017, 08:01:00 AM
He set the standard because he was Mr O every year.  Dude looked like a huge, grainy lump of shit.  Everyone destroyed their physiques chasing him.


Oddly, had Flex or Shawn won in 93 (or 98) we may have not seen  the guts and extreme weight. Or Dex, Vic or Dennis Wolfe in 2007.
And it seems that the true purity of bodybuilding and weightlifting was/is the guys like Craig Monson, dudes who just loved to lift and look good, not necessarily competitive.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2017, 08:02:04 AM
Why do you hate cats Shawn?

Why were you upset with him?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: stuntmovie on September 30, 2017, 08:17:47 AM
BETHERE, In what ways did the internet destroy bodybuilding?

I've seen it grow from the days when  6 contenders competed for a plastic medal with a cheap red ribbon beneath a 60 watt lightbulb hung from a basketball net with only mom's and dad's and family members watching the event.

One BB pro back then said it was more like a family picnic.

And I've never seen any other 'sporting' event even come close to the fast growth in the number of today's participating NPC contenders.

And a lot of this growth has to be a result of the internet today.

Sure .... The internet has destroyed a good number of individuals whose original concept of bodybuilding was once pristine ... but still ...the worldwide  interest in the 'game' seems to be ever-expanding .... and I see no end in sight.

Where do you see it differently?

Thanks, BETHERE!







Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 08:33:33 AM

Its simple, back in the days before the internet people didn't realise what a seedy filthy disgusting underbelly lay below the glitz and glamour of the pro bodybuilding image portrayed in the magazines.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 30, 2017, 08:37:56 AM
Shizzo also made fun of gymrats cancer and a war veteran.

sf is that true ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 08:47:44 AM
stuntmovie and Be There -

You are actually both correct.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2017, 08:57:24 AM
Its simple, back in the days before the internet people didn't realise what a seedy filthy disgusting underbelly lay below the glitz and glamour of the pro bodybuilding image portrayed in the magazines.
Yep.

One never looks at flannel shirts with cut off jeans and boots in the same light again.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 30, 2017, 09:02:59 AM
Its simple, back in the days before the internet people didn't realise what a seedy filthy disgusting underbelly lay below the glitz and glamour of the pro bodybuilding image portrayed in the magazines.

The funny thing though - if you talk to a lot of crossfit people, people in other sports like MMA, etc - they are where we were over a decade ago realizing how prevalent drugs are in these things.

Its amazing to see so many CF cult people think the top CF people are clean. 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2017, 09:21:42 AM
The funny thing though - if you talk to a lot of crossfit people, people in other sports like MMA, etc - they are where we were over a decade ago realizing how prevalent drugs are in these things.

Its amazing to see so many CF cult people think the top CF people are clean. 
The problem with them is, is that with a weight-training/bodybuilding background one can clearly see that they are not. Add in the internet, if a person still cannot tell, then I guess these folks still leave cookies out for Santa Claus as well.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 30, 2017, 10:14:48 AM

No.
We are not related.
I hope this helps you sleep better.


Yea, me and Shawn are not related.  Not sure where you got that idea Vince Basile.  Hope you haven't dwelled on it for years... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: stuntmovie on September 30, 2017, 10:24:39 AM
PRAY4. Yes, I will agree with your statement that both myself and BeThere are basically correct, but apparently the old Hollywood  saying, "There's no such thing as bad publicity!!" is evident here within the world of bodybuilding also.

No matter how badly one sees it, it continues to grow  beyond anyone's expectations.

Thanks BeThere and Pray4 for your intelligent comments about this ''situation".

Intelligence on this GetBig Board is always appreciated but seldom expected.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on September 30, 2017, 10:35:11 AM
Shawn is 1g of test per day excessive?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 10:41:21 AM
Shawn is 1g of test per day excessive?

By comparison to what? ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 10:45:52 AM
By comparison to what? ::)




stupid answer...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on September 30, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
By comparison to what? ::)

ok Shawn,

1g of test per day compared to what you used to take.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on September 30, 2017, 11:20:19 AM
Shawn,

Since you like to portray yourself as one who can speak on topics outside of bodybuilding, lets see if there is any depth to your claim:


1) What is your opinion of the systematic subjugation and consequent disenfranchisement of African Americans by the government,
particularly the current presidential administration?

(and if you don't like that)

2) What is your opinion of the widespread revisionism of our American heritage and culture with the removal and impugning of confederate monuments across the nation?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 11:21:42 AM
ok Shawn,

1g of test per day compared to what you used to take.

Since you guys will listen to anybody then Sounds good to me.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 11:25:25 AM
Shawn,

Since you like to portray yourself as one who can speak on topics outside of bodybuilding, lets see if there is any depth to your claim:


1) What is your opinion of the systematic subjugation and consequent disenfranchisement of African Americans by the government,
particularly the current presidential administration?

(and if you don't like that)

2) What is your opinion of the widespread revisionism of our American heritage and culture with the removal and impugning of confederate monuments across the nation?

Do I look like I'm here to amuse you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY

https://youtu.be/IWINtUCshxY


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 30, 2017, 11:36:38 AM
Damn, don't check on here for 24 hours and Shawn is back here after 10 years. No Steve Blechman to keep you off of here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on September 30, 2017, 12:16:32 PM
actually, you are here to improve your somewhat faded brand.
MD gave you exposure that you only have a fraction of now.
shame..

I am not surprised by your dodge (on the drugs) or your lack of knowledge or opinion on the non-bodybuilding questions.
You are considered smart in bodybuilding circles, which if you haven't figured it out, is a rather low bar.

why the fuck would he answer the gear q's here?

he wouldn't answer them in that gear interview he did with Kev and Dorian for some mag a few years ago, so whiat makes you think he'd talk about here?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2017, 12:43:19 PM
He set the standard because he was Mr O every year.  Dude looked like a huge, grainy lump of shit.  Everyone destroyed their physiques chasing him.



Wrong -- The judges placed him 1st Thus setting the standards
Dorian wasn't a judge - just a competitor.

Blame the judges - Not Dorian.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
actually, you are here to improve your somewhat faded brand.
MD gave you exposure that you only have a fraction of now.
shame..

I am not surprised by your dodge (on the drugs) or your lack of knowledge or opinion on the non-bodybuilding questions.
You are considered smart in bodybuilding circles, which if you haven't figured it out, is a rather low bar.

Hey dumbass, you're on a Bodybuilding Board!
I promise I won't come to McDonalds and evaluate you're Burger Flipping Skills✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 30, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
why the fuck would he answer the gear q's here?

he wouldn't answer them in that gear interview he did with Kev and Dorian for some mag a few years ago, so whiat makes you think he'd talk about here?



Finally you say something that makes sense, keep it up :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 01:01:54 PM
Shawn, as you can tell, Getbig has become a bastion of racial topics, particularly discussing Black people.

What do you make of this?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
Hey dumbass, you're on a Bodybuilding Board!
I promise I won't come to McDonalds and evaluate you're Burger Flipping Skills✌🏽

after reading your posts on MD in the past you certainly seem to have a different style on here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on September 30, 2017, 01:05:37 PM
Hey dumbass, you're on a Bodybuilding Board!
I promise I won't come to McDonalds and evaluate you're Burger Flipping Skills✌🏽

with being a public figure comes the spoils, notoriety the like..... along with the criticism

i thought you could handle it better.

i guess i was wrong



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Henda on September 30, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
Shawn do you believe your decision to abandon the awesome flat top fade haircut was detrimental to your efforts to secure an Olympia title?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SGT BARNES on September 30, 2017, 01:14:36 PM
Hey Shawn - Cedric and Rhoden both have the structure and capability to take an olympia, whats holding them back? Whaty cant they get it together for the show?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2017, 01:22:11 PM
I've heard that before about 'Vince B', but I'm not that surprised by his (or 'his') request

Cheap Vino Roso is winning again  ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 30, 2017, 01:30:12 PM
Cheap Vino Roso is winning again  ::)

I don't know about their red wines, but they have some excellent white wines in Down Under


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
Shawn, as you can tell, Getbig has become a bastion of racial topics, particularly discussing Black people.

What do you make of this?

It's like thumbing thru the Yellow pages back in the day.
Garbage in Garbage out.
I don't give that shit a chance to consume any of my thoughts.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
No your thoughts are still dominated by Dorian Yates kicking your ass year-in-year-out.

You still evaded the question who was better in bed? Crackpot Karen the snitch or the " Dime-piece " tranny " Sasha?




he does seem to be very selective in who he responds to... ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
I don't know about their red wines, but they have some excellent white wines in Down Under

Basile is consuming cheap import , not too many coins in his pockets  ;)



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Hey Shawn - Cedric and Rhoden both have the structure and capability to take an olympia, whats holding them back? Whaty cant they get it together for the show?
What's holding Rhoden back is his back. What's holding Cedric back is himself.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DooM_ on September 30, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
Shawn, as you can tell, Getbig has become a bastion of racial topics, particularly discussing Black people.

What do you make of this?

and unpatriotic attention whores who kneel for their countries national anthem , who are spoilt brats with massively inflated overpriced salaries who actually contribute nothing to society


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
and unpatriotic attention whores who kneel for their countries national anthem , who are spoilt brats with massively inflated overpriced salaries who actually contribute nothing to society


Racial topics have been the hot topic on getbig for many years, even before this NFL stuff started to happen.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 30, 2017, 02:24:46 PM
Shawn what exactly upset you about the man's cat?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Da Freak on September 30, 2017, 02:35:14 PM
I wouldn't know, I never went to any.

coz you never won shit  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 30, 2017, 02:41:26 PM
Shawn who is your fav GB poster ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: bailey on September 30, 2017, 02:43:04 PM
I don't see this re-union so to speak lasting too long. Having just read the last two pages, the idiot patrol, tough guy Internet warriors, are out in full force giving Shawn shit all over again. You guys all keep asking for the pros to come back on the boards, and when one does (A legend ) he gets shit! Do you really think any other pros want to come on here and deal with dumb ass wannabes? I'm sure Shawn has a tough skin, but it will get old to him real quickly. For those of you that have sensible questions you want answered, and I have seen a lot of them. Keep giving him shit and he will be gone by page 20! Rave on idiot patrol.  :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 30, 2017, 02:49:40 PM

Yea, me and Shawn are not related.  Not sure where you got that idea Vince Basile.  Hope you haven't dwelled on it for years... ;D

Denying isn't proof. You have to reveal who you are related to. Obviously no pro wants it known that he is related to you!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
Shawn, 1970 Mr. Canada, Vince Basile, rigged the competition by picking his own judges.

My question is this:

Should Mr. Basile have become Mr. Canada if he picked his own judges?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
Wrong -- The judges placed him 1st Thus setting the standards
Dorian wasn't a judge - just a competitor.

Blame the judges - Not Dorian.

Semantics.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
LOL at this thread getting shorter. Guess Sean still has the ability to mod threads. ::)
Nevermind, Ron is on....maybe he'll swing by the super secret mod board and check out the threads down there. :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 02:57:10 PM
LOL at this thread getting shorter. Guess Sean still has the ability to mod threads. ::)
Nevermind, Ron is on....maybe he'll swing by the super secret mod board and check out the threads down there. :D

Chaos, are you implying that Shawn is dodging certain questions?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 30, 2017, 02:59:44 PM
Shawn, 1970 Mr. Canada, Vince Basile, rigged the competition by picking his own judges.

My question is this:

Should Mr. Basile have become Mr. Canada if he picked his own judges?

I have the trophy and am proud to hold the title. I was surprised that I won.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 30, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Man this place is mental


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 30, 2017, 03:01:53 PM
Shawn, do you feel your lack of quad sweep is what kept you from ever holding the Sandow?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on September 30, 2017, 03:04:14 PM
Shawn do you believe a 1993 Flex wheeler, a 1995-98 Kevin levrone and a 1994 or 1996 Version of Shawn Ray could beat a 2011-2017 Version of a Phil Heath under today's judging criteria?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 03:05:50 PM
I have the trophy and am proud to hold the title. I was surprised that I won.

Because you picked your own judges. Of course you won.  ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2017, 03:11:55 PM
Because you picked your own judges. Of course you won.  ::)

No, such luck on Mr.AU '75    ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ron on September 30, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
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Nevermind, Ron is on....maybe he'll swing by the super secret mod board and check out the threads down. Getting posts deleted.

Some posts are getting deleted because either they are too stupid or hostile to all with dumb statements, or just not relevant. This isn't a screw you thread. Or a fuck you place.  Shawn has not asked me anything, as he is emceeing right now out of the country. But multiple IMs to me from people who enjoy bodybuilding or building up threads are concerned over some of you that just try to destroy things. Won't happen. So stop with the crap. Ask thoughtful question, not attack on something from 20+ years ago over and over again because you have an agenda.

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Has Ron confirmed that this is actually Shawn?

Yes, this is Shawn.  Others want to post too, but because of 3 or 4 idiots, why waste their time when these guys like to ruin things. I am working on others now that MD (in their contract, it stated can't post on other boards) and others are not as strong willed as before.

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Chris doesnt look too good on there Shawn, looks like you are both holding him upright

Just saw Chris at the Olympia - he looked fine, and judging by some pics that he showed me (as he has done for 20+ years), he is doing great.

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No he's not in their league because they all won multiple contests NOT just multiple Olympias , Shawn 2 pro win

Shawn was top 5 for 13 years at the Olympia contest. Smart moves in all. He should of won at least once, if not for the domination of the press and more (we did not have the internet back, so you only saw some of these guys a few times a year... aka Dorian the Shadow...)

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Neither Shawn or Melvin will even acknowledge the question about whether they are related

Seriously - who cares. They are not. But once was enough - other posts get deleted.

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Racial topics have been the hot topic on getbig for many years, even before this NFL stuff started to happen

Since the beginning in the 1990s, this was been somewhat an open board.  I am not a PC person. Racial topics, as long as they were intelligent and not plain stupid, were topics that we all discussed. Even Politics, aka its own board.

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I was attending the Olympia press conference as well and you seemed to be in a really foul mood....I remember you got into an argument with a female judge after she criticized your physique and said "Shawn, you always think you should win but your physique hasn't changed in years

I was there too... and Shawn was 100% right. That female judge said at the press conference - you look the same each year. That was crap. You should and ONLY judge a competitor on the day of the contest, not what you think if they improved or not. Judge them on how they look against the other competitors that day only. That judge was removed after her comments, rightfully so, by the Head Judge at that time.






Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
Goddamn you Ron lol He's a big boy


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ron on September 30, 2017, 03:26:17 PM
Goddamn you Ron lol He's a big boy

So am I.   But I enjoy the questions and answer, even certain banter.  Pure hate... no...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 03:35:24 PM
You guys play nice or you play alone, it's that simple!
Respect or Ignore, everything else is just shit.

I'm trying to engage but trust me, I can Watch instead it's as simple as that.

Don't push me cause I'm close to the Edge.... I'm trying not to lose my Head!
It's like a Jungle sometimes


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2017, 03:35:41 PM
Some posts are getting deleted because either they are too stupid or hostile to all with dumb statements, or just not relevant. This isn't a screw you thread. Or a fuck you place.  Shawn has not asked me anything, as he is emceeing right now out of the country. But multiple IMs to me from people who enjoy bodybuilding or building up threads are concerned over some of you that just try to destroy things. Won't happen. So stop with the crap. Ask thoughtful question, not attack on something from 20+ years ago over and over again because you have an agenda.

Yes, this is Shawn.  Others want to post too, but because of 3 or 4 idiots, why waste their time when these guys like to ruin things. I am working on others now that MD (in their contract, it stated can't post on other boards) and others are not as strong willed as before.

Just saw Chris at the Olympia - he looked fine, and judging by some pics that he showed me (as he has done for 20+ years), he is doing great.

Shawn was top 5 for 13 years at the Olympia contest. Smart moves in all. He should of won at least once, if not for the domination of the press and more (we did not have the internet back, so you only saw some of these guys a few times a year... aka Dorian the Shadow...)

Seriously - who cares. They are not. But once was enough - other posts get deleted.

Since the beginning in the 1990s, this was been somewhat an open board.  I am not a PC person. Racial topics, as long as they were intelligent and not plain stupid, were topics that we all discussed. Even Politics, aka its own board.

I was there too... and Shawn was 100% right. That female judge said at the press conference - you look the same each year. That was crap. You should and ONLY judge a competitor on the day of the contest, not what you think if they improved or not. Judge them on how they look against the other competitors that day only. That judge was removed after her comments, rightfully so, by the Head Judge at that time.





I have no "agenda", Ron, would like to see some other things addressed that would help all of us enjoy the board more that seem to be put off. >:(
As far as Shawn goes, fun to have him back and watch him go back and forth with the fellas. He seems to do just fine responding to critics and fans. Never actually met the guy but have heard numerous stories from several people that have.
I agree with the sentiment of being judged the day of the competition, not the last performance. There is some huge issues with the ifbb judging as it is don't you think?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2017, 03:37:12 PM
You guys play nice or you play alone, it's that simple!
Respect or Ignore, everything else is just shit.

I'm trying to engage but trust me, I can Watch instead it's as simple as that.

Don't push me cause I'm close to the Edge.... I'm trying not to lose my Head!
It's like a Jungle sometimes

And here I just gave you props for having the nuts to go back and forth with the fellas here and now you're threatening to quit.....already. ;D
Damn, son.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 30, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
He's avoided my almond question, which was asked is a respectful manner.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 03:43:28 PM
You guys play nice or you play alone, it's that simple!
Respect or Ignore, everything else is just shit.

I'm trying to engage but trust me, I can Watch instead it's as simple as that.

Don't push me cause I'm close to the Edge.... I'm trying not to lose my Head!
It's like a Jungle sometimes


Respect is earned  ;) and this Thunderdome


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 30, 2017, 03:56:00 PM
Respect is earned  ;) and this Thunderdome

perhaps but you take this who was better shit over the top and ruin threads with your bullshit.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on September 30, 2017, 03:57:08 PM
Hello Shawn. Quick question....I remember in the late 80's watching an episode of American Muscle Magazine on ESPN....in which you did an offseason training session with Sean Jenkins. I knew Sean from back east. I remember him as a good guy. Anyway...did you guys actually train together at some point? Or was that only for the episode. Something Lou Zwick thought up? Anyway....just curious. Thank you for posting up on this board. Much appreciated.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2017, 04:01:25 PM
perhaps but you take this who was better shit over the top and ruin threads with your bullshit.
There's a 1700+ page thread somewhere for his antics


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 04:09:23 PM
perhaps but you take this who was better shit over the top and ruin threads with your bullshit.

Take that shit up with Shawn who's claiming he won in 97  ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 30, 2017, 04:17:17 PM
Take that shit up with Shawn who's claiming he won in 97  ;)

your a weirdo who loves arguing moot points for hundreds of pages, and I am sure you will ruin this thread too if Ron doesn't step in


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ron on September 30, 2017, 04:22:38 PM
Take that shit up with Shawn who's claiming he won in 97  ;)

According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler. 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 04:30:50 PM
your a weirdo who loves arguing moot points for hundreds of pages, and I am sure you will ruin this thread too if Ron doesn't step in

You're an idiot.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 04:32:43 PM
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler. 

According to a bunch of independent judges they say he shouldn't have won. If they got it right when he won they certainly got it right it when he lost.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 04:34:26 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2017, 04:35:09 PM
Shawn, what's the biggest mistake that top NPC guys make that prevents them from going pro?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Nether Animal on September 30, 2017, 04:36:10 PM
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler. 

Should HAVE, Ron.  ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 04:49:51 PM
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler. 

It's "should have."

Should've = Should have

"Should of" is grammatically incorrect.

"Shawn Ray should have won once" or "Shawn Ray should've won once."


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on September 30, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
It's "should have."

Should've = Should have

"Should of" is grammatically incorrect.

"Shawn Ray should have won once" or "Shawn Ray should've won once."

Fuck of!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 30, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
Should HAVE, Ron.  ;)

It's "should have."

Should've = Should have

"Should of" is grammatically incorrect.

"Shawn Ray should have won once" or "Shawn Ray should've won once."

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 30, 2017, 05:03:10 PM
Fuck of!

Grammatically it's 'fuck off', just saying


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 30, 2017, 05:06:59 PM
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler. 

Well, does this suggest that the judging process at the Olympia sucks? Otherwise the many are mistaken.

In my opinion the judging process and selection sucks and will lead to bad results. History has proven

that I am right. For example, they use 3 rounds. Ben Weider tried to get bodybuilding into the Olympic games

so used a judging system used by other sports. He ignored the excellent system used by NABBA at their Mr Universe

contests. The rounds were not judged by placings but by points in the IFBB. 1980 revealed what happened using this system.

Too many 20 out of 20 scores were awarded in all rounds effectively making many of the scores irrelevant. Only the

scores that separated the competitors made a difference.

The posedown was a chance to correct what some judges voted for. Again, this allowed the results to change at

the last minute. Since people talked to judges and they talked among themselves this allowed some to influence

the scores. Thus we have seen corruption happening in many of the contest.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2017, 05:11:16 PM
Shawn, what about that cat?


Hey Shawn ....good to have you back..you're a legend!....

Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat...  he pretty much disappeared after that


Why were you upset with him for talking with his cat?

Did you make him disappear?

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 05:19:13 PM
Well, does this suggest that the judging process at the Olympia sucks? Otherwise the many are mistaken.

In my opinion the judging process and selection sucks and will lead to bad results. History has proven

that I am right. For example, they use 3 rounds. Ben Weider tried to get bodybuilding into the Olympic games

so used a judging system used by other sports. He ignored the excellent system used by NABBA at their Mr Universe

contests. The rounds were not judged by placings but by points in the IFBB. 1980 revealed what happened using this system.

Too many 20 out of 20 scores were awarded in all rounds effectively making many of the scores irrelevant. Only the

scores that separated the competitors made a difference.

The posedown was a chance to correct what some judges voted for. Again, this allowed the results to change at

the last minute. Since people talked to judges and they talked among themselves this allowed some to influence

the scores. Thus we have seen corruption happening in many of the contest.

The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 30, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
Shawn, what did the man's cat do to upset you?
Do you like the film, the nightmare on elm Street?
Also, sorry for my English, I'm not from america


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 05:29:52 PM
Shawn, what did the man's cat do to upset you?
Do you like the film, the nightmare on elm Street?
Also, sorry for my English, I'm not from america

WOT,

Nightmare on Elm Street is awesome. Definitely a classic. I own the whole box sex.  8) 8) 8)

Sorry, had to answer.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 05:30:54 PM
Shawn, what about that cat?



Why were you upset with him for talking with his cat?

Did you make him disappear?

Im also trying to find out if Shawn ever stuffed his posing trunk with a sock (like Levrone).


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
Im also trying to find out if Shawn ever stuffed his posing trunk with a sock (like Levrone).
Maybe he stuffed it with a cat?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on September 30, 2017, 05:33:40 PM
The super rare case of delts almost being too big.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 05:38:29 PM
Maybe he stuffed it with a cat?

He really seems to dislike cats.  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2017, 05:43:29 PM
The super rare case of delts almost being too big.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on September 30, 2017, 05:44:28 PM
Damn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on September 30, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"

They got rid of Demilia which was probably a shame. Why do they need to score the rounds and then have a posedown that is scored after the judging process is over. Answer, to correct 'errant' judges scores. They don't publish what individual judges scored. There is no transparency. Also, who picks the judges? Everyone assumes the results are valid. But even Ron has heard that some contests didn't choose the best competitor. How did Dorian win with a torn biceps? The IFBB evolved to be a system that rewarded loyal people and didn't reward those not loyal. End of story. Worst judging ever was the 1983 contest in Las Vegas where Bev Francis was placed 8th. Unbelievable but typical of what the IFBB does.

The rounds are pure bullshit. That isn't what bodybuilding is about. It is about being the best guy after posing and best among the comparisons. Overall placings is all that is required. Yes, they can use rounds to select the finalists but no scores accumulate. All that is scored is the last comparisons. Posedown okay for the crowd but impossible to score so doesn't count. The end of the judging should be the end of scoring.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2017, 06:30:37 PM
He really seems to dislike cats.  :'( :'( :'(

 Vince Gironda was wearing leopards speedos  :P


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 30, 2017, 06:34:30 PM
Hey Shawn, would U accept V.Basile  Mr.Olympia trophy  like C.Dickerson did in 1980 !!!.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
Vince Gironda was wearing leopards speedos  :P

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 30, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
Denying isn't proof. You have to reveal who you are related to. Obviously no pro wants it known that he is related to you!


If you get your blue stars then I'll tell you....promise


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Moontrane on September 30, 2017, 09:03:24 PM
As an Original "Get Bigger" from back in the day, let me say it's Good to be Back!!!

My Haters are still here I see but so are the New Jacks & I'm excited to see what the next 10 years have in store for us after my 10 year sabbatical.

Any questions?
Retired Life, Bubble Guts, MD, Generation Iron, IFBB, Pro League, Wellness Division, Trolls, Haters, Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic, Beating Ronnie Coleman 5 straight Years in a Row, Guest Posing Fat in 96 when I placed 2nd in the Mr O, Being Fat & Happy, My Big Fat Mouth, 17 years in Retirement, The Donald, National Anthem, The Next Beyonce, State of Bodybuilding, The Comeback😜
Fire away!!!


At the 1990 Olympia I overheard Robert Kennedy say you just didn’t have the back to pull off the win.  What did you do to fix that?  That was one of the greatest improvements I've ever seen.

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 30, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
We need more advices on cats and almonds.

Help us Shawn!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on September 30, 2017, 09:31:14 PM
We need more advices on cats and almonds.

Help us Shawn!

"Help me Obi Shawn Kenobi.  You're my only hope."     ;D

For the record, this is a superb physique.  One that any sane individual would choose over a slob like Phildo.

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2017, 09:31:21 PM
Semantics.

No Facts
Facts it appears you either don't like or can't handle

Had flex wheeler or Shawn won your be fine with that no doubt
So when the judges vote how you want it to go They've got it Right
And when they don't they've got it wrong....  ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 10:01:37 PM
Hello Shawn. Quick question....I remember in the late 80's watching an episode of American Muscle Magazine on ESPN....in which you did an offseason training session with Sean Jenkins. I knew Sean from back east. I remember him as a good guy. Anyway...did you guys actually train together at some point? Or was that only for the episode. Something Lou Zwick thought up? Anyway....just curious. Thank you for posting up on this board. Much appreciated.

I worked out with JJ Marsh and it was rumored that he & Sean were cousins. I never trained with Sean outside that episode.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 10:04:06 PM
Shawn, what's the biggest mistake that top NPC guys make that prevents them from going pro?

Trying to compete at levels higher than their prepared for too soon.
Trying to get too big without building Quality first.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 30, 2017, 10:40:27 PM
No Facts
Facts it appears you either don't like or can't handle

Had flex wheeler or Shawn won your be fine with that no doubt
So when the judges vote how you want it to go They've got it Right
And when they don't they've got it wrong....  ::)

Lighten up Francis. Are you Dorian's mother or something?   ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2017, 11:37:31 PM
Lighten up Francis. Are you Dorian's mother or something?   ;D


Yes I'm his Father

And I see you don't like facts
And resort back to stupidity level.

You made a statement & it was wrong - your fault


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"
they dont need to buy judges, judges are on a nice cushy expenses paid trip and dont want to rock the boat, the Olympia has always been judged on reputations and momentum going into the show, not on the condition and quality of each athlete on the day.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 30, 2017, 11:57:53 PM
At the 1990 Olympia I overheard Robert Kennedy say you just didn’t have the back to pull off the win.  What did you do to fix that?  That was one of the greatest improvements I've ever seen.

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When someone like Robert Kennedy tells you to work harder on you're Back, You simply do it!
I focused on my Back like never before because Mr Kennedy said to!
#RespectWisdom



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 12:18:08 AM
Shawn dodging the cat-question.


He must've really been upset.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 01:14:16 AM
The super rare case of delts almost being too big.

yup...but I think Dillet had him beat in the 2 big department his Delts were insane  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2017, 01:44:14 AM
Trying to compete at levels higher than their prepared for too soon.
Trying to get too big without building Quality first.

building quality as opposed to quantity , please explain...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 01:48:49 AM
A few comparisons of a prime Ray vs a Prime Heath...who would win, I definitely give the FDB, Ab/Thigh,FLS and maybe the MM too Ray (more complete with a actual chest) Heaths the bigger guy with extreme muscle fullness etc and a BDB that's the trademark of his domination of his era


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 01:50:17 AM
....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 01, 2017, 01:57:03 AM
From them comparison pics A close call

Yes Phil is larger - Shawn has better lines

Again in those comparison pics Shawn has the better all round physique   
All things considered     


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 02:01:24 AM
From them comparison pics A close call

Yes Phil is larger - Shawn has better lines

Again in those comparison pics Shawn has the better all round physique   
All things considered     
yup Shawn has a better flow too his physique classic shades of old school lines too boot with the ab/seratus tie ins etc, Phil's ridiculous muscle roundness though his Quads, arms, shoulders and crazy BDB has the whao factor on a prime ray...ether way imo it's a close call


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2017, 02:04:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7hVNW9sMxs

this version of Phil Heath beats anything Shawn has ever brought and Shawn did bring some fantastic packages in his time.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 01, 2017, 02:34:23 AM
Phil set the Bar for others to follow.
So far no one can catch him.
Dexter
Kai
Rhoden
Ramy

All 2nd to Phil.

Anyone else to stop this guy will have to match him from the BACK or it's on to #8 for Phil


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Vince B on October 01, 2017, 02:35:30 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 02:45:28 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.
too each their own Vince, I see in that comparison Phil's shoulders over powering his chest, and sub par abs in relation too Shawn's version of the MM, Phil's definitely bigger and fuller but imo Shawn is more complete and equally as conditioned


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 02:47:14 AM
Phil set the Bar for others to follow.
So far no one can catch him.
Dexter
Kai
Rhoden
Ramy

All 2nd to Phil.

Anyone else to stop this guy will have to match him from the BACK or it's on to #8 for Phil
jesus...the size of heaths head... :o :o :o...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: trapz101 on October 01, 2017, 02:55:30 AM
Phil set the Bar for others to follow.
So far no one can catch him.
Dexter
Kai
Rhoden
Ramy

All 2nd to Phil.

Anyone else to stop this guy will have to match him from the BACK or it's on to #8 for Phil

phildo doesn't look that impressive in that picture..just a blob of mass


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 03:01:31 AM
phildo doesn't look that impressive in that picture..just a blob of mass
exactly huge arms and delts and a huge head...that's it.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 03:03:34 AM
Not sure the year this was taken but it was a hall mark of his consistently over the years...balance.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 03:50:31 AM
Shawn "Cat-Hater" Ray > Pill "Shoe-room" Heath


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 03:58:12 AM
they dont need to buy judges, judges are on a nice cushy expenses paid trip and dont want to rock the boat, the Olympia has always been judged on reputations and momentum going into the show, not on the condition and quality of each athlete on the day.

Yeah 1998 Mr Olympia contradicts that notion real quick , Ronnie had NO momentum or reputation going into that show , in fact it was a forgone conclusion it was Flex's show. Same could be said for Dorian's 2nd place in 1991 he came out of no where to give Haney a real run for his money. I admire your confidence in your opinion but unless you back it with facts it's still nothing more than an opinion.

How the Olympia was fixed - Give Pete a Chance - Brief Article
Flex ,  Feb, 2002   by Peter McGough



It was shortly after 2:25 PM on Saturday, October 27, at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino Events Center in Las Vegas. The prejudging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest had just concluded and Jim Manion looked with horror at the score sheets he had collected from the IFBB judging panel. As NPC chairman and head of the IFBB judges committee, Manion couldn't believe his eyes. Jay Cutler had won both the muscularity and symmetry rounds, and he led defending champ Ronnie Coleman by two rounds to nil.

 Manion rushed from the auditorium in search of Wayne DeMilia, IFBB Pro Division chairman and promoter of the IFBB Mr. Olympia contest. DeMilia went pale, instantly realizing, as Manion had done earlier, that this was not meant to be. This was Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia contest and a Weider-contracted athlete -- namely Coleman -- had to win. Cutler had ceased to be a Weider athlete shortly after the 2000 Mr. Olympia. DeMilia and Manion both knew that something had gone horribly wrong, that once Joe Weider learned his man was second, he would go ballistic and there would be hell to pay. The duo promptly left for the hotel suite that acted as IFBB base of Olympia operations.

As they walked through the door of the suite, the phone rang, and DeMilia picked it up to hear the well-known twang of Joe Weider. Joe had already heard that Coleman was marooned in second place and he demanded the circumstances be changed in order for his man to win. Later that evening, under DeMiia and Manion's direction, the judging panel gave the posing and posedown rounds to Coleman, thus ensuring he, and not Cutler, was crowned 2001 Mr. Olympia. Oh, and Lou Ferrigno and Gary Coleman are twins separated at birth.

For the record, the last sentence is more credible than the contents of the first three paragraphs. Believe it or not, the fictionalized version of what went on at the judging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest has been spun in certain quarters by some presenting themselves as insiders. Here are the facts. 1. Joe Weider plays no part in deciding who is. judged Mr. Olympia. At the time of the prejudging, he was in fact at one of his residences in Las Vegas and was not even aware that Coleman's crown had been in jeopardy until after the event.

2. If the reality was that a Weider man had to win the Olympia, why would the judges have given Cutler the first two rounds, thereby giving themselves a problem to sort out later?

3. The truth is that Coleman was off at the prejudging but was sharper at the evening show, and his posing was much more outgoing and aggressive than Cutler's. Therefore, the defending champ winning the posing and posedown rounds is entirely believable. (Coleman actually won the contest because his winning margins in the final two rounds were greater than Cutler's in the first two rounds.)

4. Leaving aside the opinion that a bodybuilding contest (i.e., the assessment of who has the best body) is really decided during the first two rounds, current judging criteria holds that all four rounds have equal value. So, again, Coleman's manner of victory is entirely understandable, if a bit unorthodox. You can make an argument that, in the end, the posedown should not decide the Mr. Olympia contest, but that's a question of the process needing modification and irrelevant to the judging format that existed on

October 27, 2001.

5. In a subjective sport like bodybuilding, conjecture will always reign that a contest has been rigged, especially if there is an unpopular result. For an Olympia contest to be fixed, 13 judges have to be in cahoots and conspire to control the result. Over the years, rumormongers have ventured that Olympias have been manipulated, but in all those years, no member of those judging panels (many of whom have left or broken away from bodybuilding in acrimonious circumstances) have blown the whistle. The reason: There is no whistle to blow.

6. The bodybuilding community isn't exactly known to be a great keeper of secrets. Rumors of a hangnail become an amputated leg once the story goes around gyms for a couple of days. I've been involved in this sport for decades. If there had been corruption in the judging of Mr. Olympia, I'd have heard about it long before now.

7. History shows there is no Weider bias in the judging of an Olympia. When Ronnie Coleman first won the Mr. Olympia in 1998, he was not a Weider athlete and had not been considered as a candidate for one until he won the O. Shortly before the 1991 Mr. Olympia, reigning champ Lee Haney severed his ties with Weider and signed a megabucks contract with Twinlab. The rumor was that Joe Weider would not "allow" him to win the O. Another Weider athlete, Dorian Yates, entered his first Olympia that year and pushed Haney all the way. If Weider bias ruled at the Olympia, Yates would have been named the 1991 Mr. Olympia.

Stop press: As this column was completed, news broke of Jay Cutler's notification that his Olympia drug-test sample had tested positive. (This was before all tests at the 2001 Olympia were declared null and void. See page 118 for full details.) Again, the rumor mill hummed to the tune that the Weider/IFBB combine, not content with simply "fixing" the Olympia, was trying to fix Cutler, period. When the drug tests were declared null and void, the same uninformed cynics postulated that the IFBB, fearing legal intervention, had decided to close the issue down. Totally untrue. The reasons for the tests being declared null and void are completely due to the facts stated on page 118.

The bottom line is that neither the Weider company nor the IFBB had anything to gain by derailing Cutler's bandwagon. With Cutler nearly dethroning Coleman, DeMilia was almost salivating at the prospect of a new young contender who could be promoted as a legitimate threat for the 2002 Olympia crown. Any attempt to undermine Cutler undermined the sport, the IFBB and the Olympia contest. As it is, the IFBB followed due process and did the right thing. But, for some people, that's kinda boring.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 01, 2017, 03:59:42 AM
Shawn, whatever happened to Edgar Fletcher? He dropped out of sight. Have you talked to him at all, and if so how does he feel about not getting his pro card, yet seeing the mediocrity now that have earned their pro cards?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2017, 04:39:10 AM
Yeah 1998 Mr Olympia contradicts that notion real quick , Ronnie had NO momentum or reputation going into that show , in fact it was a forgone conclusion it was Flex's show. Same could be said for Dorian's 2nd place in 1991 he came out of no where to give Haney a real run for his money. I admire your confidence in your opinion but unless you back it with facts it's still nothing more than an opinion.

How the Olympia was fixed - Give Pete a Chance - Brief Article
Flex ,  Feb, 2002   by Peter McGough



It was shortly after 2:25 PM on Saturday, October 27, at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino Events Center in Las Vegas. The prejudging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest had just concluded and Jim Manion looked with horror at the score sheets he had collected from the IFBB judging panel. As NPC chairman and head of the IFBB judges committee, Manion couldn't believe his eyes. Jay Cutler had won both the muscularity and symmetry rounds, and he led defending champ Ronnie Coleman by two rounds to nil.

 Manion rushed from the auditorium in search of Wayne DeMilia, IFBB Pro Division chairman and promoter of the IFBB Mr. Olympia contest. DeMilia went pale, instantly realizing, as Manion had done earlier, that this was not meant to be. This was Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia contest and a Weider-contracted athlete -- namely Coleman -- had to win. Cutler had ceased to be a Weider athlete shortly after the 2000 Mr. Olympia. DeMilia and Manion both knew that something had gone horribly wrong, that once Joe Weider learned his man was second, he would go ballistic and there would be hell to pay. The duo promptly left for the hotel suite that acted as IFBB base of Olympia operations.

As they walked through the door of the suite, the phone rang, and DeMilia picked it up to hear the well-known twang of Joe Weider. Joe had already heard that Coleman was marooned in second place and he demanded the circumstances be changed in order for his man to win. Later that evening, under DeMiia and Manion's direction, the judging panel gave the posing and posedown rounds to Coleman, thus ensuring he, and not Cutler, was crowned 2001 Mr. Olympia. Oh, and Lou Ferrigno and Gary Coleman are twins separated at birth.

For the record, the last sentence is more credible than the contents of the first three paragraphs. Believe it or not, the fictionalized version of what went on at the judging of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest has been spun in certain quarters by some presenting themselves as insiders. Here are the facts. 1. Joe Weider plays no part in deciding who is. judged Mr. Olympia. At the time of the prejudging, he was in fact at one of his residences in Las Vegas and was not even aware that Coleman's crown had been in jeopardy until after the event.

2. If the reality was that a Weider man had to win the Olympia, why would the judges have given Cutler the first two rounds, thereby giving themselves a problem to sort out later?

3. The truth is that Coleman was off at the prejudging but was sharper at the evening show, and his posing was much more outgoing and aggressive than Cutler's. Therefore, the defending champ winning the posing and posedown rounds is entirely believable. (Coleman actually won the contest because his winning margins in the final two rounds were greater than Cutler's in the first two rounds.)

4. Leaving aside the opinion that a bodybuilding contest (i.e., the assessment of who has the best body) is really decided during the first two rounds, current judging criteria holds that all four rounds have equal value. So, again, Coleman's manner of victory is entirely understandable, if a bit unorthodox. You can make an argument that, in the end, the posedown should not decide the Mr. Olympia contest, but that's a question of the process needing modification and irrelevant to the judging format that existed on

October 27, 2001.

5. In a subjective sport like bodybuilding, conjecture will always reign that a contest has been rigged, especially if there is an unpopular result. For an Olympia contest to be fixed, 13 judges have to be in cahoots and conspire to control the result. Over the years, rumormongers have ventured that Olympias have been manipulated, but in all those years, no member of those judging panels (many of whom have left or broken away from bodybuilding in acrimonious circumstances) have blown the whistle. The reason: There is no whistle to blow.

6. The bodybuilding community isn't exactly known to be a great keeper of secrets. Rumors of a hangnail become an amputated leg once the story goes around gyms for a couple of days. I've been involved in this sport for decades. If there had been corruption in the judging of Mr. Olympia, I'd have heard about it long before now.

7. History shows there is no Weider bias in the judging of an Olympia. When Ronnie Coleman first won the Mr. Olympia in 1998, he was not a Weider athlete and had not been considered as a candidate for one until he won the O. Shortly before the 1991 Mr. Olympia, reigning champ Lee Haney severed his ties with Weider and signed a megabucks contract with Twinlab. The rumor was that Joe Weider would not "allow" him to win the O. Another Weider athlete, Dorian Yates, entered his first Olympia that year and pushed Haney all the way. If Weider bias ruled at the Olympia, Yates would have been named the 1991 Mr. Olympia.

Stop press: As this column was completed, news broke of Jay Cutler's notification that his Olympia drug-test sample had tested positive. (This was before all tests at the 2001 Olympia were declared null and void. See page 118 for full details.) Again, the rumor mill hummed to the tune that the Weider/IFBB combine, not content with simply "fixing" the Olympia, was trying to fix Cutler, period. When the drug tests were declared null and void, the same uninformed cynics postulated that the IFBB, fearing legal intervention, had decided to close the issue down. Totally untrue. The reasons for the tests being declared null and void are completely due to the facts stated on page 118.

The bottom line is that neither the Weider company nor the IFBB had anything to gain by derailing Cutler's bandwagon. With Cutler nearly dethroning Coleman, DeMilia was almost salivating at the prospect of a new young contender who could be promoted as a legitimate threat for the 2002 Olympia crown. Any attempt to undermine Cutler undermined the sport, the IFBB and the Olympia contest. As it is, the IFBB followed due process and did the right thing. But, for some people, that's kinda boring.


so my entire theory is wrong based on 2 Olympia results?

Nice logic...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 01, 2017, 04:39:36 AM
bena-fucking-fatto FUCK YEAH  8)

and dont forget Paul-Jean Guillume (altjough his quads were a bit too big compared to his upper body)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fipTZPJTN00


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 01, 2017, 04:54:11 AM
Shawn, whatever happened to Edgar Fletcher? He dropped out of sight. Have you talked to him at all, and if so how does he feel about not getting his pro card, yet seeing the mediocrity now that have earned their pro cards?

I never knew Edgar petsonnaly. I think he lived in Pittsburgh?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 04:55:43 AM
I never knew Edgar petsonnaly. I think he lived in Pittsburgh?
Did Edgar Petsonnaly have a pet of some sort? Maybe a cat?

The plot thickens!

Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat... he pretty much disappeared after that


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: andreisdaman on October 01, 2017, 04:56:11 AM
According to many, Shawn Ray should of won once, as should of Flex Wheeler.  

I DEFINITELY agree with that, Ron.  My theory is that Shawn was perceived as an arrogant pretty boy and had a nice Weider contract so he really didn't have to compete more than once a year....I really think there was a lot of jealousy toward Shawn and he was downgraded in judging (maybe unconsciously) because of that....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 01, 2017, 05:35:40 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.

From that photo, it's obvious that Phil's chest starts and ends too high and that a maxed out physique is not necessarily a good one.

Shawn looks much, much better than Phil ever has.  Phil can win 10,000 olympias, but he'll never have a chest or proportions that flow.  Ever.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 01, 2017, 05:38:06 AM
I DEFINITELY agree with that, Ron.  My theory is that Shawn was perceived as an arrogant pretty boy and had a nice Weider contract so he really didn't have to compete more than once a year....I really think there was a lot of jealousy toward Shawn and he was downgraded in judging (maybe unconsciously) because of that....
He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.

But I do agree with you.

I also wonder did any of these guys back have attorneys to negotiate their contracts, like Pros of other sports did?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
so my entire theory is wrong based on 2 Olympia results?

Nice logic...

Well seeing it's an opinion it's neither right or wrong. If it's a theory you omitted any supporting facts.

Nice logic...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 06:13:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7hVNW9sMxs

this version of Phil Heath beats anything Shawn has ever brought and Shawn did bring some fantastic packages in his time.

Still amazing to me that after all this time, they still can't get cameramen with any type of clue.

For the RLS and RDB, the angle is from the floor and never shows the complete shot.  They only show full body while he's in transition.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DooM_ on October 01, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.

heath has more size but he looks puffed up and 'bloofy' , doesn't have the solid granite look of the guys in the 90's . . . his head has also morphed it seems . . . insulin and gh and injected oil have ruined bodybuilding . . .


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 06:41:27 AM
I DEFINITELY agree with that, Ron.  My theory is that Shawn was perceived as an arrogant pretty boy and had a nice Weider contract so he really didn't have to compete more than once a year....I really think there was a lot of jealousy toward Shawn and he was downgraded in judging (maybe unconsciously) because of that....

Jealous of what exactly? All of his pro wins? Oh wait  ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 01, 2017, 06:50:54 AM
Trying again

Here's a few questions if you have time :

 1 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Successful Pro Ever? (Arnold Excluded)

 2 - Which IFBB pro (current or past) when all things considered (life style, career, placings, rewards, consequences, etc..) would you consider to be a candidate for Most Tragic Pro Ever?  (Titus excluded)

 3 - What is your honest opinion on the pre-made ready to drink protein shakes you see on the shelves.  Like Myoplex, Met Rx, Muscle Milk, etc...  any protein drink already pre made.  I have heard from others that these are a poor choice that the process of making them and the time of sitting on the shelf has denatured the product greatly.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 01, 2017, 07:06:25 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.
Obviously a lower level. Heath's physique doesn't flow like Shawns. Overpowering Arms and delts, make his chest look small and bunched up. Not to mention his narrow clavicles.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 07:13:59 AM
A few comparisons of a prime Ray vs a Prime Heath...who would win, I definitely give the FDB, Ab/Thigh,FLS and maybe the MM too Ray (more complete with a actual chest) Heaths the bigger guy with extreme muscle fullness etc and a BDB that's the trademark of his domination of his era

Anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding knows that Shawn is beating Phil in that back double bicep pose.

Although Phil is bigger, Shawn has WAY more detail in his back and hamstrings. Phil's shoulders and back looks bloofy and watery; Shawns back looks like a road map.

And Phil looks absolutely atrocious in the front relaxed spread. Horrible proportions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on October 01, 2017, 07:15:36 AM
Oops.. Flex Wheeler   ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 07:16:15 AM
Obviously a lower level. Heath's physique doesn't flow like Shawns. Overpowering Arms and delts, make his chest look small and bunched up. Not to mention his narrow clavicles.


Shawn has narrow clavicles as well not as evident because he's not 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag like Phil


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 07:17:08 AM
Oops.. Flex Wheeler   ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 01, 2017, 07:21:50 AM
Shawn has narrow clavicles as well not as evident because he's not 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag like Phil
I think that pic is misleading because Dorian is squared up, whereas Shawn has his shoulders fwd and in for that pose. Try it an see how you look compared to be squared up relaxed.

A better comparison would be both Shawn and Dorian in the front relaxed pose


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: che on October 01, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
Shawn's physique is better than Phil's ,  Phil is just a  better bodybuilder .


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on October 01, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
Trying to get too big without building Quality first.
This single statement is bound to make some heads explode!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2017, 07:45:43 AM
This single statement is bound to make some heads explode!

I asked for explanation but it was ignored, Shawn has ignored every question I have asked, thats why I think it isnt him...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 07:52:57 AM
I asked for explanation but it was ignored, Shawn has ignored every question I have asked, thats why I think it isnt him...

You can stop with the trolling with this schtick.

Apparently, Ron has already confirmed its Shawn.

Unless Joon made contact with Shawn and convinced Shawn to lie to Ron.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 07:53:32 AM
I think that pic is misleading because Dorian is squared up, whereas Shawn has his shoulders fwd and in for that pose. Try it an see how you look compared to be squared up relaxed.

A better comparison would be both Shawn and Dorian in the front relaxed pose

Not misleading Shawn has narrow clavicles


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 01, 2017, 08:03:20 AM
Shawn has narrow clavicles as well not as evident because he's not 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag like Phil
Exactly my point, it doesn't flow, not balanced like Shawns physique.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 08:08:46 AM
I worked out with JJ Marsh and it was rumored that he & Sean were cousins. I never trained with Sean outside that episode.

They were cousins. I trained with both JJ and Sean back in the early 90's at Powerhouse Gym in Fountain Valley and then World Gym In HB.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 01, 2017, 08:26:15 AM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.

Not to blow smoke up Shawn's ass but Phil may be developed more than anyone, but I prefer the quality of Shawn's physique

And sorry to all the Phil Fans but Ronnie blows him out of the water, well he blows everyone out of the water most of his years as Mr O


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 08:28:16 AM
Anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding knows that Shawn is beating Phil in that back double bicep pose.

Although Phil is bigger, Shawn has WAY more detail in his back and hamstrings. Phil's shoulders and back looks bloofy and watery; Shawns back looks like a road map.

And Phil looks absolutely atrocious in the front relaxed spread. Horrible proportions.

You can't tell that from pics.   Side by side on stage, Sean's perceived advantage in condition might get completely obliterated by the size difference.

Both look awesome though.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 01, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
Shawn....who in your opinion...over the span of your entire competitive career.....was the most impressive bodybuilder you ever viewed in person? I mean...just standing there. Whether at a weigh in, pump room or in the gym. Even if the person wasnt a top competitor-placer. Very curious. Thank you.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 08:32:52 AM
Shawn....who in your opinion...over the span of your entire competitive career.....was the most impressive bodybuilder you ever viewed in person? I mean...just standing there. Whether at a weigh in, pump room or in the gym. Even if the person wasnt a top competitor-placer. Very curious. Thank you.

Himself of course


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
You can't tell that from pics.   Side by side on stage, Sean's perceived advantage in condition might get completely obliterated by the size difference.

Both look awesome though.

Ive already stated that Phil is bigger. But his size doesn't take away from the fact that Shawn is clearly more detailed.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: andreisdaman on October 01, 2017, 08:36:36 AM
He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.

But I do agree with you.

I also wonder did any of these guys back have attorneys to negotiate their contracts, like Pros of other sports did?
He, Flex, and Kevin (correct?) had Weider contracts. I think even Dorian had a Weider contract as well.

But I do agree with you.

I also wonder did any of these guys back have attorneys to negotiate their contracts, like Pros of other sports did?

hey parker, that's definitely an excellent point.....DID ANY OF THESE GUYS HAVE A LAWYER at least look at the contracts they were signing?????..or was it just show up at Weider's office, sign the contract, and trust ole uncle Joe???....

Can you answer this Shawn?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: PJim on October 01, 2017, 08:38:01 AM
Not misleading Shawn has narrow clavicles

I'm pretty sure I posted those screenshots before to demonstrate this very point. Dorian was light years ahead of Shawn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 08:40:43 AM
I'm pretty sure I posted those screenshots before to demonstrate this very point. Dorian was light years ahead of Shawn.

You sir are correct !!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: andreisdaman on October 01, 2017, 08:41:04 AM
Jealous of what exactly? All of his pro wins? Oh wait  ::)

Shawn was living the high life...had women, cars, nice house..TV Show,,,good money rolling in...and lets face it..he was perceived as cocky and arrogant by some.....yes I think there was some jealousy


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 08:45:30 AM
Shawn was living the high life...had women trannies, cars, nice house..TV Show,,,good money rolling in...and lets face it..he was perceived as cocky and arrogant by some.....yes I think there was some jealousy



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 09:14:23 AM
Ive already stated that Phil is bigger. But his size doesn't take away from the fact that Shawn is clearly more detailed.

In pics.

Side by side on stage, it might not matter.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 01, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
I'm pretty sure I posted those screenshots before to demonstrate this very point. Dorian was light years ahead of Shawn.
I wouldn't say "light years", because that denotes that he was far ahead. When he wasn't. He was heavier and wider. And taller. That's it.

Not misleading Shawn has narrow clavicles
Never said he didn't have narrow clavicles, only that the pic was misleading. But thanks for posting the relaxed pics.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 01, 2017, 09:30:58 AM
Shawn, what's your take on the whole prep coaching business? Should advanced competitors still hire one or should they do all the home/guessing work themselves?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 09:33:54 AM
I wouldn't say "light years", because that denotes that he was far ahead. When he wasn't. He was heavier and wider. And taller. That's it.
Never said he didn't have narrow clavicles, only that the pic was misleading. But thanks for posting the relaxed pics.

He was far ahead , if you want to argue aesthetics you could make a case or what the ideal of the sport should represent  , but in terms of professional bodybuilding and the IFBB judging criteria Dorian was eons ahead of Shawn , and everyone else.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 01, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
Phil vs Shawn

Both at there best its a very tough call
Phil's Bigger but not necessarily better

we'll never know as they would've had to be on the same stage
at the same time.

Shawn was consistently in better condition than phil

Pictures don't always give a true perspective
Some look amazing in photos and not so good in real life
and the opposite is also true.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sancho ed on October 01, 2017, 12:19:21 PM
Poses:
Shawn ray takes:
Abs and thighs
Front double
Front lat spread

Phil takes:
All side shots and rear shots.
And most muscular

To shawns credit he was more consistent with conditioning, better poser, more pleasing physique, and didnt have a bubble gut lol


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 12:35:43 PM
In pics.

Side by side on stage, it might not matter.

I think the pics show enough to draw a conclusion, independent if they were on stage.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: jr on October 01, 2017, 12:42:03 PM
From this photo it is obvious that Phil is on a different level from Shawn.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745808;image)

Yeah, the GH and insulin level.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: balzac on October 01, 2017, 01:06:45 PM
hey shawn,

back in your competition days - how often did you do health check ups and what did you test ?

many thanks

greetings from europe




Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 01, 2017, 01:29:35 PM
Another question Shawn. Who was or were the most influential bodybuilders to you knowledge wise or just helpful to you as a source of inspiration. Thanks again for answering our questions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 01, 2017, 01:42:10 PM
why did my posts get deleted.

guess ND is the "guest"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 01:44:02 PM
why did my posts get deleted.

guess ND is the "guest"

 ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQyiIFrdriY


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 01, 2017, 01:44:28 PM
hey mods

why do my posts calling ND out for his bullshit get deleted yet he can slam Shawn in this thread?

Fucking bullshit, obviously he is the "guest"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 01:44:49 PM
;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQyiIFrdriY

Seems like "The Powers that Be" do not want Shawn's thread getting derailed.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 01, 2017, 01:45:41 PM
Seems like "The Powers that Be" do not want Shawn's thread getting derailed.

honestly I have no problem with that but ND keeps derailing it himself


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 01:50:39 PM
I think the pics show enough to draw a conclusion, independent if they were on stage.

They never do in that context.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 01:52:25 PM
They never do in that context.

Yes, they do. There have been pics that have been posted online, in which a conclusion was drawn and backed up by people who were actually in the audience. Its not a perfect comparison, but you can make a good enough prediction based on pictures. It's of course, still subjective, but so is being in the audience.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 01:52:32 PM
hey mods

why do my posts calling ND out for his bullshit get deleted yet he can slam Shawn in this thread?

Fucking bullshit, obviously he is the "guest"

I told you boy , I am a God around here  ;)

Shawn Ray related.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 01:56:10 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 01:57:45 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 01:59:46 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 01, 2017, 01:59:54 PM
There is a photo of Shawn standing in the surf... one of the best photos I have ever seen


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 01, 2017, 02:01:51 PM
There is a photo of Shawn standing in the surf... one of the best photos I have ever seen


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 02:04:04 PM
Shawn, Ronnie is making you look small here! Was Ronnie THAT big in real life?

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41120&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 01, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
I asked for explanation but it was ignored, Shawn has ignored every question I have asked, thats why I think it isnt him...

And you are?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 01, 2017, 02:34:07 PM
Thanks for all your posts shawn
It’s great you’re back on getbig

Plz send my wishes to Phil
I hope he recovers from his surgery well
Could you ask him to post again on here -bob chick as well?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on October 01, 2017, 02:35:03 PM
Thanks for all your posts shawn
It’s great you’re back on getbig

Plz send my wishes to Phil
I hope he recovers from his surgery well
Could you ask him to post again on here -bob chick as well?
Gene are you high on preworkouts again?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 01, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Shawn, what do you like about my Freddy Krueger doll?
Also which is your favorite the nightmare of elm Street moviefilm?
Mine is number six, Freddy is back!!
I apologize for my bad English as I'm not American


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 02:50:48 PM
Shawn, what do you like about my Freddy Krueger doll?
Also which is your favorite the nightmare of elm Street moviefilm?
Mine is number six, Freddy is back!!
I apologize for my bad English as I'm not American

Mine is 1. Classic!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 01, 2017, 03:01:19 PM
Mine is 1. Classic!
The remake is actually quite good, better backstop to freddy and more realistic


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 03:06:21 PM
The remake is actually quite good, better backstop to freddy and more realistic

You like any other classics? Halloween? Friday the 13th? Child's Play? Hell Raiser?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 01, 2017, 03:09:25 PM
You like any other classics? Halloween? Friday the 13th? Child's Play? Hell Raiser?
All of them man. Watching horrors since I'm a child. Hammer horror like slaughter high, classics like candyman, all the serial films like Friday the 13th. Only one ever freaked me out was pet cemetery, oh and the ending of the first insidious.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
All of them man. Watching horrors since I'm a child. Hammer horror like slaughter high, classics like candyman, all the serial films like Friday the 13th. Only one ever freaked me out was pet cemetery, oh and the ending of the first insidious.

Same here, broskie. I always watch a few horror movies every week. I grew up watching it with my pops (hes 65); he enjoyed the old school horror classics (Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, etc). Candyman is some good stuff. Ive been watching stuff like Exorcist, Children of the Corn, Poltergeist, etc.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 01, 2017, 03:18:00 PM
Same here, broskie. I always watch a few horror movies every week. I grew up watching it with my pops (hes 65); he enjoyed the old school horror classics (Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, etc). Candyman is some good stuff. Ive been watching stuff like Exorcist, Children of the Corn, Poltergeist, etc.
Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Check out slaughter high, still a good watch.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 03:32:20 PM
Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Check out slaughter high, still a good watch.

I shall check it out.

I also like cheesy horror movies. Check out "Slumber Party Massacre, Leprachaun, Dead-Alive, Piranha, Sleepaway Camp.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 01, 2017, 03:42:36 PM


Close.  But he was actually in the water.

That is still a good photo though.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2017, 03:45:41 PM
And you are?

someone you selectively ignore...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
Yes, they do. There have been pics that have been posted online, in which a conclusion was drawn and backed up by people who were actually in the audience. Its not a perfect comparison, but you can make a good enough prediction based on pictures. It's of course, still subjective, but so is being in the audience.

Unless the pics are correctly scaled, the size difference in real life, side by side, isn't captured.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 03:52:18 PM
Unless the pics are correctly scaled, the size difference in real life, side by side, isn't captured.

Size difference doesn't matter, as I already stated that Phil is much bigger than Shawn.

However, there is clearly a difference of detail in their backs. Shawn exhibiting greater detail. It just is. Accept it.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: old-school-lifter on October 01, 2017, 04:12:48 PM
Shawn

besides Chris Cormier, are you friends with other BB's from the 90's?

were you friends with Nasser or was there bad blood between you guys?

also, do you still train with Boyer Coe? I remember that BFO , you had the living legend Boyer spot you on incline bench


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 04:15:56 PM
Size difference doesn't matter, as I already stated that Phil is much bigger than Shawn.

However, there is clearly a difference of detail in their backs. Shawn exhibiting greater detail. It just is. Accept it.

That's not the point.

The point was that the detail, if viewed side by side in real life, may not be able to overcome the size difference, as Phil's condition was excellent as well.  But you cannot tell that context from the photos, or ever, since it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
That's not the point.

The point was that the detail, if viewed side by side in real life, may not be able to overcome the size difference, as Phil's condition was excellent as well.  But you cannot tell that context from the photos, or ever, since it didn't happen.

In terms of competition, you may be correct, that the detail may not be able to overcome the size difference. However, I disagree that Phil had excellent condition. Shawn had excellent conditioning; Phil's conditioning was decent, not excellent.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 04:27:41 PM
In terms of competition, you may be correct, that the detail may not be able to overcome the size difference. However, I disagree that Phil had excellent condition. Shawn had excellent conditioning; Phil's conditioning was decent, not excellent.

In the bethere vid, he's spot on.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: shiftedShapes on October 01, 2017, 04:29:25 PM
Shawn I got a photo with you at the olympia expo in 2010.

At the time I got a half chubb (no homo)

It's called a parsh genius


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 04:30:54 PM
In the bethere vid, he's spot on.

Id have to look at the video, but saying someone is "spot on" is subjective. I may or may not agree depending on what I consider to be "conditioned."


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on October 01, 2017, 04:38:40 PM
Shawn has ignored my question, but don't know why??
but probably ignored because it involves both Dexter and Jays legacy.
Shawn would have had 18-19 Mr.O appearances.

Here is the question Again...

Shawn...If u had stayed in the Olympia instead of retiring in 2001, Could you be the Mr. O winner in 2006 and 2007?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: che on October 01, 2017, 04:40:51 PM
I shall check it out.

I also like cheesy horror movies. Check out "Slumber Party Massacre, Leprachaun, Dead-Alive, Piranha, Sleepaway Camp.

How about math camp massacre :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5a5eGBZKJE


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
Id have to look at the video, but saying someone is "spot on" is subjective. I may or may not agree depending on what I consider to be "conditioned."

Check it out see.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 05:21:12 PM
Check it out see.

If you recall, what page is it on?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2017, 06:44:44 PM
If you recall, what page is it on?

Top of 18


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 01, 2017, 06:48:30 PM
Oops.. Flex Wheeler   ;D
jesus that pic of Flex is awesome  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 01, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
It's called a parsh genius

Are you telling me what i have to call my cock?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sancho ed on October 01, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
Since a good portion of your income when u competed came frm shows, sponsors, appearances, g4p(just kidding), now that you are retired, what kinds of sources of income do u have now besides generation iron? I always had an impression that u were pretty business savvy, as opposed to most pros.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 01, 2017, 10:36:31 PM
Haha children of the corn, malachi the red haired guy!!
Check out slaughter high, still a good watch.
[/quote

I spent about $600 on some of the Blu ray releases of Friday the 13th Blu ray collection, Halloween (scream factory release), The Fog Blu ray and They Live steel books.
  (I'm a collector of ole horror movies on Blu ray plus the Toxic Avenger Blu ray film each one with rare slipcovers.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 10:39:30 PM
Also you got upset with another body builder (I forget his name) because he was talking about his cat... ..he pretty much disappeared after that

Shawn might be in the House


But he sure is avoiding the Cathouse!

Talk about upsetting!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 01, 2017, 10:47:38 PM
Shawn might be in the House


But he sure is avoiding the Cathouse!

Talk about upsetting!


A cat is nothing to get upset about.

Shawn needs to be tolerant.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 10:51:11 PM
A cat is nothing to get upset about.

Shawn needs to be tolerant.

Why did he make that guy disappear though?

Merely for talking to his cat?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 01, 2017, 10:52:24 PM
Why did he make that guy disappear though?

Merely for talking to his cat?

Perhaps there were things?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2017, 10:57:59 PM
Perhaps there were things?
One must assume such!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 02, 2017, 12:42:40 AM
Dear Shawn, do you consider yourself the founding father of the white towel trend?

(https://archive.is/FRQwJ/f3ababcc2d2987874ff9dc67b3072eaaad73751d.jpg)
(https://archive.is/FRQwJ/887d0c47e43cce62b46c368e47c139177e0eeb23.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 02, 2017, 03:22:35 AM
Shawn

besides Chris Cormier, are you friends with other BB's from the 90's?

were you friends with Nasser or was there bad blood between you guys?

also, do you still train with Boyer Coe? I remember that BFO , you had the living legend Boyer spot you on incline bench

Chris & I are cool. We have lunch and watch football. I don't keep in close contact with the guys I competed against we were not close back in the day and have Real Lives outside of the sport with lots of different interests.
My friends were not bodybuilders but guys I grew up with from grade school to college and beyond. Boyer happened to work out at the same gym I did but that gym changed ownership and it was 16 years ago.
I meet up with Boyer every so often for lunch.
I never knew Nasser, he lived in San Diego and I lived in Orange County. Only saw him a couple times a year if that at various shows.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 02, 2017, 03:23:40 AM
Dear Shawn, do you consider yourself the founding father of the white towel trend?

(https://archive.is/FRQwJ/f3ababcc2d2987874ff9dc67b3072eaaad73751d.jpg)
(https://archive.is/FRQwJ/887d0c47e43cce62b46c368e47c139177e0eeb23.jpg)

Nobody wore it better 8)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 02, 2017, 03:26:04 AM
Shawn has ignored my question, but don't know why??
but probably ignored because it involves both Dexter and Jays legacy.
Shawn would have had 18-19 Mr.O appearances.

Here is the question Again...

Shawn...If u had stayed in the Olympia instead of retiring in 2001, Could you be the Mr. O winner in 2006 and 2007?

How the hell would I know?
I was busy getting married and having kids, buying houses.
You tell me. ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:30:15 AM
You tell me. ::)

Shawn could be the Mr. O winner in 2006 and 2007.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on October 02, 2017, 03:35:50 AM
Nobody wore it better 8)

Were you ever approached by creeps with weird requests, such as hotel room wrestling matches, selling underwear and worn gym panties.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 02, 2017, 05:37:26 AM
I know Shawn is a huge raiders fan but what do you think of the cowboys?  ;D

Your boy chris is a huge cowboys fan, so is dexter


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: polychronopolous on October 02, 2017, 06:37:38 AM
Nobody wore it better 8)

haha  :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 02, 2017, 07:07:01 AM
Shawn - who picked out these outfits for you and Lee for this thing?

 :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OxJjDDA9o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2017, 08:00:25 AM
HOW WOULD HAVE DENNIS NEWMAN  YOUR FORMER TRAINING PARTNER FARED ' HIS PEAK'MR USA PHYSIQUE IN THOSE DAYS..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 02, 2017, 08:01:01 AM
Shawn - who picked out these outfits for you and Lee for this thing?

 :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OxJjDDA9o

Haha frank trying to save face saying he used to can do 50/60 pound dbs for single hand tricep extension  ::) I’m sure he could when he was younger......

Lee actually looks normal without all those stupid tattoos he has now


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 02, 2017, 08:38:38 AM
Were you ever approached by creeps with weird requests, such as hotel room wrestling matches, selling underwear and worn gym panties.

No.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 02, 2017, 01:45:28 PM
shawn where do you think phil this year would've placed in the 98 olympia?

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: old-school-lifter on October 02, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
Chris & I are cool. We have lunch and watch football. I don't keep in close contact with the guys I competed against we were not close back in the day and have Real Lives outside of the sport with lots of different interests.
My friends were not bodybuilders but guys I grew up with from grade school to college and beyond. Boyer happened to work out at the same gym I did but that gym changed ownership and it was 16 years ago.
I meet up with Boyer every so often for lunch.
I never knew Nasser, he lived in San Diego and I lived in Orange County. Only saw him a couple times a year if that at various shows.


thanks for clarifying all that Shawn

I think a lot of fans think the pro's are all good friends but in reality I think that is not the case especially when you are all competing against each other for $


u competed in Haney's era and the 90's- which do you think was better and was the 90's the best bodybuilders will ever look or was it Haney's era?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: luckyone on October 03, 2017, 02:02:45 AM
Shawn, thanks for coming back to Get Big and for all your honesty over the years regardless of the nature of the questions. I remember being inspired by you on the televised FLEX Workouts and couldn't believe how big your arms were. I remember you honestly answering about actual arm size of competitors when in a competition as opposed to off season and how what was important was how they looked and not what they measured. That always stayed with me. Best of luck to you and thanks again for all your contributions to the sport.

your brother in Christ,

Lucky, still training hard at 62 years old

PS your still one of my prime inspirations on arm day, pick is recent one of me and my daughter


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2017, 02:30:30 AM
Huge Arms Lucky One!

Ernie Taylor-esque Triceps!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2017, 03:14:07 AM
Great physique coupled with good looks.  Just lose the ghetto language, e.g. "In the house".  Levrone needs to do the same thing.  Nothing wrong with reminiscing about a past as storied as yours.  The dais tramps of today could not hold a candle to what you presented on stage.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 03:53:18 AM
Sean welcome to getbig. Great to have someone like you here. Hope the idiots here don't scare you off like what happened with other pros who have come and gone.

Question for you. There are some bodybuilders that are in my view just genetic "fatties"'. Trey Brewer is an example. Another is that Jason Genova moron. Lee Priest is another example. And in my view so is Jay Cutler (look at his early pics). My question - how did a guy like Jay get so lean? Yes obviously diet and cardio etc, but I'm amazed at Jay's transformation to leanness. Any substances you think are responsible for long term fat loss? Correct use of clen or other fat burners? Ronnie also looks to have stayed increabibly lean. Did these guys take something that literally "burned fat"?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 03:55:33 AM
Sorry to spell your name wrong above.

Next question. Do you think Josh Leonardowiyz could win an Olympia? What advice would you give him if he wants to win? I think he has amazing potential but needs to come in leaner and more vascular.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 03:57:18 AM
WOW GH15 IS HERE!!!

No Nasser left us a while back ...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 04:07:23 AM
No.
That would be Franco. :o

I agree.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 03, 2017, 04:50:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fAbVEcu1qA


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 03, 2017, 05:00:03 AM
Sean welcome to getbig. Great to have someone like you here. Hope the idiots here don't scare you off like what happened with other pros who have come and gone.

Shawn was here before, brother.  He only left because he was paid $$ to go to another (weaker) board.

The best and worst compliment I can pay to Shawn is that he belonged here back then - and he still displays the same outspoken nature that tends to work well with this board.

One thing you all need to be aware of is that historically, Shawn is one of the only pros I have ever seen use his mod powers.  Make of that what you will.  I'm just saying - don't be surprised if the house is cleaner (perhaps to some people's chagrin), from now on.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 05:48:00 AM
Shawn was here before, brother.  He only left because he was paid $$ to go to another (weaker) board.

The best and worst compliment I can pay to Shawn is that he belonged here back then - and he still displays the same outspoken nature that tends to work well with this board.

One thing you all need to be aware of is that historically, Shawn is one of the only pros I have ever seen use his mod powers.  Make of that what you will.  I'm just saying - don't be surprised if the house is cleaner (perhaps to some people's chagrin), from now on.


Fair enough too. If people are idiots just delete them I reckon.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2017, 05:50:42 AM
Shawn was here before, brother.  He only left because he was paid $$ to go to another (weaker) board.

The best and worst compliment I can pay to Shawn is that he belonged here back then - and he still displays the same outspoken nature that tends to work well with this board.

One thing you all need to be aware of is that historically, Shawn is one of the only pros I have ever seen use his mod powers.  Make of that what you will.  I'm just saying - don't be surprised if the house is cleaner (perhaps to some people's chagrin), from now on.


One which board is he a mod, or only for this thread?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on October 03, 2017, 09:05:11 AM
Great abs here  :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Meta-physical on October 03, 2017, 10:07:41 AM
Dear Shane Ray,

Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer questions for us here. I have a few that I would like to put to you, if I may:

1. As my blue stars indicate, I am a serious competitor. My current coach (former IFBB pro), however, has put me on a rather dubious regime and I could really do with your advice. The precariousness of incorporating almonds into one's diet has already been mentioned earlier, but I must respectfully press you for elaboration here. I'm currently taking both almonds and DNP as part of my weekly diet, but I'm uncomfortable with this due to the inherent risks involved with the dosing of both. I'd like to ask you if it would be wiser to switch them out for a more low-risk combination - specifically, clenbuterol and pistachios? I love the taste of pistachios and have often devoured entire bags of them in one sitting, with no observable side effects. Good idea to make the switch?

2. If you could travel back in time to when Dorian Yates was still an infant, what method of execution would you choose to dispatch of him?

3. I understand that you have already repudiated the allegation of you and Vince Goodrum being related in some manner; but have you considered the possibility of kinship through, perhaps, an illicit affair, sperm donation, or some other type of extramarital sexual encounter, unbeknownst to you? I ask because, aside from the uncanny physical and intellectual similarities, Vince recently made a particularly disgraceful post in which he boasted about participating in the starvation and subsequent grisly death of a cat. It's well known that you too have an irrational yet explicit detestation of all things feline - could this be reason enough to undergo a DNA test if the Getbig community agrees to fund it?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 03, 2017, 11:25:33 AM
Great abs here  :o

Yes all got great midsections

Phil Hill looks enormous in that pic.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 03, 2017, 11:29:27 AM
Yes all got great midsections

Phil Hill looks enormous in that pic.

The only thing that held Phil Hill back in the pros was the fact that he was only 1 Heath wide.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 03, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
The only thing that held Phil Hill back in the pros was the fact that he was only 1 Heath wide.



Hmmm.... sadly it hasn't held Phil "the Gut" heath back


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on October 03, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
A real pro never lets coverage
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on October 03, 2017, 05:43:19 PM
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?


A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2017, 09:21:14 PM
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?


A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.

Shane Di Mora was the youngest pro...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 04, 2017, 01:48:15 AM
One which board is he a mod, or only for this thread?

G&O and maybe more.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 04, 2017, 01:51:14 AM
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?


A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.

If you honestly think that, quit thinking, you're a fucking moron.

If that's a troll, thumbs up.. it's very amusing.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 04, 2017, 02:04:49 AM
Q - why Shawn repeatedly go out of his way to take take cheap shots, veiled as pro commentary, at Dallas Mccarver?


A - Shawn felt threatened when Dallas broke his record (youngest to turn pro) and sought to delegitimize him. This stems from Shawn's insecurity.

It helps if you get you're Facts Straight:

Classic example of an Idiot who knows nothing of what he speaks. It's clowns like you that keep me coming back to share the GOSPEL "Truth" with Fans who are easily mislead by out right Lies:

Watch and weep.
https://youtu.be/4hCcMrpumso

https://youtu.be/FcPe_y_tw4s

https://youtu.be/v0IXaukCzKk

https://youtu.be/-kpnX59Jzok

School is out✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 04, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
If you honestly think that, quit thinking, you're a fucking moron.

If that's a troll, thumbs up.. it's very amusing.

If it was , it worked.... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 04, 2017, 02:08:29 AM
Dear Shane Ray,

Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer questions for us here. I have a few that I would like to put to you, if I may:

1. As my blue stars indicate, I am a serious competitor. My current coach (former IFBB pro), however, has put me on a rather dubious regime and I could really do with your advice. The precariousness of incorporating almonds into one's diet has already been mentioned earlier, but I must respectfully press you for elaboration here. I'm currently taking both almonds and DNP as part of my weekly diet, but I'm uncomfortable with this due to the inherent risks involved with the dosing of both. I'd like to ask you if it would be wiser to switch them out for a more low-risk combination - specifically, clenbuterol and pistachios? I love the taste of pistachios and have often devoured entire bags of them in one sitting, with no observable side effects. Good idea to make the switch?

2. If you could travel back in time to when Dorian Yates was still an infant, what method of execution would you choose to dispatch of him?

3. I understand that you have already repudiated the allegation of you and Vince Goodrum being related in some manner; but have you considered the possibility of kinship through, perhaps, an illicit affair, sperm donation, or some other type of extramarital sexual encounter, unbeknownst to you? I ask because, aside from the uncanny physical and intellectual similarities, Vince recently made a particularly disgraceful post in which he boasted about participating in the starvation and subsequent grisly death of a cat. It's well known that you too have an irrational yet explicit detestation of all things feline - could this be reason enough to undergo a DNA test if the Getbig community agrees to fund it?



Wtf are you rambling on about?
Block & Delete me please✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 04, 2017, 02:12:57 AM
Sorry to spell your name wrong above.

Next question. Do you think Josh Leonardowiyz could win an Olympia? What advice would you give him if he wants to win? I think he has amazing potential but needs to come in leaner and more vascular.

Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 04, 2017, 02:19:55 AM
Hyperpthical question I know shawn but in your view a 1995 Dorian Yates, a 1998 or 99 Coleman a 2011 Phil Heath you're seen all @ their absolute best who in your opinion would win under today's judging criteria?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gib on October 04, 2017, 03:15:20 AM
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽

Thanks!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 04, 2017, 05:03:13 AM
Dear Shane Ray,

Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer questions for us here. I have a few that I would like to put to you, if I may:

1. As my blue stars indicate, I am a serious competitor. My current coach (former IFBB pro), however, has put me on a rather dubious regime and I could really do with your advice. The precariousness of incorporating almonds into one's diet has already been mentioned earlier, but I must respectfully press you for elaboration here. I'm currently taking both almonds and DNP as part of my weekly diet, but I'm uncomfortable with this due to the inherent risks involved with the dosing of both. I'd like to ask you if it would be wiser to switch them out for a more low-risk combination - specifically, clenbuterol and pistachios? I love the taste of pistachios and have often devoured entire bags of them in one sitting, with no observable side effects. Good idea to make the switch?

2. If you could travel back in time to when Dorian Yates was still an infant, what method of execution would you choose to dispatch of him?

3. I understand that you have already repudiated the allegation of you and Vince Goodrum being related in some manner; but have you considered the possibility of kinship through, perhaps, an illicit affair, sperm donation, or some other type of extramarital sexual encounter, unbeknownst to you? I ask because, aside from the uncanny physical and intellectual similarities, Vince recently made a particularly disgraceful post in which he boasted about participating in the starvation and subsequent grisly death of a cat. It's well known that you too have an irrational yet explicit detestation of all things feline - could this be reason enough to undergo a DNA test if the Getbig community agrees to fund it?



Hahahahahaha!

Post of the year!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 04, 2017, 05:04:39 AM
Wtf are you rambling on about?
Block & Delete me please✌🏽

He is too slik for you. One of the best getbig scholars.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽

And Larry Scott / Chris Dickerson / Dexter Jackson are Genetic Freaks Then ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2017, 05:26:45 AM
Josh is a likesble guy but winning the Olympia is a stretch!
He certainly belongs on that stage but the Winners Circle is reserved for Genetic Freaks of which he is not.
He has some shows he can win on the circuit that will keep him in the Olympia Line up tho 💪🏽
Josh winning the Olympia is like Ulisses Jr turning IFBB pro and winning the Arnold Classic in Columbus, on his first try. And I think Ulisses Jr has a better physique.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 05:31:16 AM
Shawn, if you had to compete today, would you go the length some of these young guys are doing with the Insulin and HGH?  Do you think you'd be able to even compete today without it?

Also what was Ronnie running to go from Last in the Olympia to first in 2 years.  His transformation was crazy. Don't say hard work.  He was always working hard but he discovered something that helped him transform into the beast that won the Mr. O


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: stuntmovie on October 04, 2017, 07:41:44 AM
SHAWN, Thanks for the info on the Kuwait contest.

You might have mentioned this earlier but can you offer an update on the foreign 'affiliates' who may be joining Jim Manion and the Pro League?

I am assuming that those who become 'affiliates' will therefore be cutting their ties with Rafael S.

And I assume that there is lots going on behind the curtain during this 'transition phase' especially with Arnold's worldwide events.

And the possibility that many decisions will be reliant upon any future legal outcome/decisions .... if it comes to that.

PS..... I first met you at Joe Welder's office the day after or the day before the NPC bodybuilding contest that was held in the Disneyland area in which Jeff Everson was MC.

DO you recall the year of that event? You were a young kid back then. And I guess that I was also.

Thanks again, Shawn!



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Meta-physical on October 04, 2017, 12:30:26 PM
He is too slik for you. One of the best getbig scholars.
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on October 04, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.

Shayne is second only to Nasser in the number of uncrowned Mr Olympia prizes won. 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 04, 2017, 12:36:37 PM
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.

lol..... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Henda on October 04, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.

It was very ignorant of Shawn to spitefully dismiss your well worded and deeply heartfelt questions, he also selfishly ignored my question about his hair and it’s relation to his Olympia placing which I am very upset about.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2017, 12:48:34 PM
Thank you, Falco. I have no idea what I said to provoke such a volatile response from Shane. Sure, I may unintentionally waffle a little, but my questions were asked with sincerity. Shane: please accept my apology if I offended you for some reason, and please consider addressing my questions once you've calmed down.
Look, you should know better than to take time out of Sugar Shawn Shane's day to a ask complicate aged asinine questions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SquatsRule on October 04, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
Shawn,
What was your favorite old-school workout clothing style?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: JAGO on October 04, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
Shawn,
What was your favorite old-school workout clothing style?

The ones made by the company that paid him the most.

J


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 02:17:07 PM
And Larry Scott / Chris Dickerson / Dexter Jackson are Genetic Freaks Then ?

Larry scott and dickerson's physiques may be laughable as to comparing their physiques to the olympias from the last 2 decades because of size, other criteria and what is judged compared to their heydays, but their overall physique miles ahead in quality and relateable because they dont look retarded big or cut

I think the physques the last 2 decades are awesome but the nicest physiques are from the 60's 70's 80's. after that they got too cartooney and for the most part ugly.

even the so called mass freaks from the 60'2-80's look better than what has been considered a classic physique the last decade


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
The ones made by the company that paid him the most.

J
Must be NPC Wear. Where he and Milamar Flores (at the time) did a photoshoot together.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 04, 2017, 02:20:45 PM
And Larry Scott / Chris Dickerson / Dexter Jackson are Genetic Freaks Then ?
Josh is not comparable to those guys in their Time.
Next✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 04, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
Chris Dickerson most be the worst olympia ever! Even more so than Franco... Dude had awesome elbows anyway...  8)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 04, 2017, 03:32:00 PM
Shawn!!! Have U spoke with the champ lately? How has his spirits been after his hernia surgery? Phils second wife mentioned this wAs a life threatening worst hernia the dr has even seen.

And could u ask bob to post on here again? Thanks


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 04, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
Shawn please ask Phil Cheath to give you all of his Sandows and prize money to you as you are a bazillion times more deserving.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 04, 2017, 04:35:03 PM
Shawn please ask Phil Cheath to give you all of his Sandows and prize money to you as you are a bazillion times more deserving.

Agreed.  If Phil had any humanity he would do the right thing.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on October 04, 2017, 05:20:20 PM
Shawna,

thanks for replying to me and proving my point about your insecurity.


It helps if you get you're Facts Straight:

Classic example of an Idiot who knows nothing of what he speaks. It's clowns like you that keep me coming back to share the GOSPEL "Truth" with Fans who are easily mislead by out right Lies:

Watch and weep.
https://youtu.be/4hCcMrpumso

https://youtu.be/FcPe_y_tw4s

https://youtu.be/v0IXaukCzKk

https://youtu.be/-kpnX59Jzok

School is out✌🏽



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Josh is not comparable to those guys in their Time.
Next✌🏽

Maybe maybe not.
Regardless either way he is as genetically gifted as Scott & Dickerson
Easily & They won the Olympia

Wheeler / cormier / dillet / Kevin / yourself all Genetically Gifted Beyond the likes
Of Scott & Dickerson Yet None of you won a single Mr O

Takes more than just being genetically gifted

Next...........


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 06:38:48 PM
Still hang out with Dennis, Shawn?

Or that Milo guy? Fucker hooked up with my gal after we broke up. So much better looking. What can you do, right?  


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 04, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Still hang out with Dennis, Shawn?

Or that Milo guy? Fucker hooked up with my gal after we broke up. So much better looking. What can you do, right?  
Yes.
Both of them are doing fine thanks we meet up often 💪🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 05, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
Dear Mr. Ray, it's no secret that there is some bad blood between yourself and gentleman Lee Priest. Could you elaborate on what started it, given that you are both ambassadors of this sport?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on October 05, 2017, 09:45:41 AM
Dear Mr. Ray, it's no secret that there is some bad blood between yourself and gentleman Lee Priest. Could you elaborate on what started it, given that you are both ambassadors of this sport?

Lee said on YouseTube that he whipped Sean's ass more than once.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on October 05, 2017, 09:48:17 AM
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with  middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 05, 2017, 11:13:29 AM
why does shawn dodge every question about phil heath and where he would place in the 90's?

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 05, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with  middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..

Are you asking about this guy?  Richard Jones?

(http://i.imgur.com/3e7uO.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: macgyver on October 05, 2017, 11:40:00 AM
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with  middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..

He said he didn't want to do what it took to get to the next level. Although Jones took "supplements" I assume, I wonder how he still got into the Police force.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 05, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
He said he didn't want to do what it took to get to the next level. Although Jones took "supplements" I assume, I wonder how he still got into the Police force.

same way Ronnie did I suppose..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on October 05, 2017, 11:44:10 AM
Are you asking about this guy?  Richard Jones?

(http://i.imgur.com/3e7uO.jpg)
no there was a middleweight in the 90's he trained with,,if this question interests him maybe he will answer it...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 05, 2017, 12:27:14 PM
Dear Mr. Ray, it's no secret that there is some bad blood between yourself and gentleman Lee Priest. Could you elaborate on what started it, given that you are both ambassadors of this sport?

If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 05, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin

Your thin skin looked great on stage, but in life you need a thick skin


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 05, 2017, 12:42:09 PM
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin

its not a sport...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 05, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin

Thank you for being condescendent with my poor judgment. Be carefull coming off your high horse, you might hurt yourself.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 05, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
Shawn! You seem like you are quite full of yourself! Like u see yourself as a celebrity of sorts? You’re a nobody! The average person has no clue who u are-a soft pretzel is more famous than you!
Did u envision all the forum members bowing to you and praising you?
Why don’t u answer everyone’s questions?
You’re a fat old fossil-no one even cares about the dumb interviews you do


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 12:13:54 AM
shawn..whatever happened to the mr usa guy you trained with  middleweight Richard longwidth sp?dude had good build and never competed again..

His last attempt at Nationals landed him in the hospital from dehydration. He quit after that, got married and had another kid then moved to Georgia and opened a Anytime Fitness Gym in Lawrenceville. He's a Trainer with his wife & son, happy and healthy. :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 06, 2017, 12:14:38 AM
His last attempt at Nationals landed him in the hospital from dehydration. He quit after that, got married and had another kid then moved to Georgia and opened a Anytime Fitness Gym in Lawrenceville. He's a Trainer with his wife & son, happy and healthy. :o

bad advice from his guru?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 12:15:21 AM
Are you asking about this guy?  Richard Jones?

(http://i.imgur.com/3e7uO.jpg)

No. Ones white the other Black.
One I trained with for 3 years the other I mentored.
One turned Pro, the other quit.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 12:30:35 AM
no there was a middleweight in the 90's he trained with,,if this question interests him maybe he will answer it...

Richard Longwith won the Mr Orange County & Mr USA Middle Wt before quitting at the 98 Nats in Atlanta following Prejudging.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 12:32:48 AM
Shawn! You seem like you are quite full of yourself! Like u see yourself as a celebrity of sorts? You’re a nobody! The average person has no clue who u are-a soft pretzel is more famous than you!
Did u envision all the forum members bowing to you and praising you?
Why don’t u answer everyone’s questions?
You’re a fat old fossil-no one even cares about the dumb interviews you do


Is that supposed to be a question? Lol


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 12:33:51 AM
bad advice from his guru?

He was trying to "Make Weight"
Should have done Light Hvys.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 06, 2017, 12:40:47 AM
why does shawn dodge every question about phil heath and where he would place in the 90's?

E
im not sure Earl I've asked him a couple of times, a prime Kevin, a prime Flex a prime Ray vs a prime Heath...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on October 06, 2017, 12:45:33 AM
Shawn, I see some people on here throwing little stones at you and you selectively engage with those who are after a constructive debate and ignore the idiots such as Be There.

Do you think a certain bodybuilders have an unrealistic approach to the internet in that they want everyone to like them? and get riled up about nobodies criticising them, what advice would you give if it was your son? as even the most popular stars in the world take Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez they sell out hundred of thousand ticket tours in minutes which reflects how much people like they're shit but make no mistake their online presence is riddled with hate and trolls.

Don't you think this reflects badly on their IQ? Or is this an emotional growth issue.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 06, 2017, 01:54:08 AM
Do you think a certain bodybuilders have an unrealistic approach to the internet in that they want everyone to like them? and get riled up about nobodies criticising them, what advice would you give if it was your son? as even the most popular stars in the world take Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez they sell out hundred of thousand ticket tours in minutes which reflects how much people like they're shit but make no mistake their online presence is riddled with hate and trolls.

Don't you think this reflects badly on their IQ? Or is this an emotional growth issue.

I just need to correct something here - wanting to be liked.. is not what you're actually talking about.  What you're actually vectoring towards is more akin to "expecting to have tremendous respect, (ala that which they experience in real life), without any particularly previous communication with a person" and then having poor reactions as a result.

And the answer to your question is NO, it does not reflect badly on their IQ.  

See, there is this thing on the internet - an unspoken rule that most of us know.  It says:  Anybody can be a massive dick to you, if you have a bit of fame - but you, as a person with fame - you're not allowed to react to it with a similarly immature response at all - or you're the asshole ::)

You could label the lack of respecting that unspoken rule as "low iq" or "emotional growth" issues, but really, it's just a fucking stupid little quirk of the internet that mediocre people who will never have outstanding lives treat as gospel, to assuage their comparatively shit lives.

And don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading trolling - but anybody who trolls and thinks that the "other person" reacting poorly is the one with the IQ/Emotional problems is a mental midget and a half.  Sure, push buttons - have fun, be a dick - but don't get so invested in your foolishness that you actually start thinking you are in the right, you're not, you're a dick :)

(I don't mean YOU who I am responding to).



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 01:55:36 AM
sean what do you think of trannies

and after you answer in the way you have to because you're a public figure, please give your true opinion in a pm

kthxbai


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 04:49:49 AM
Shawn, I see some people on here throwing little stones at you and you selectively engage with those who are after a constructive debate and ignore the idiots such as Be There.

Do you think a certain bodybuilders have an unrealistic approach to the internet in that they want everyone to like them? and get riled up about nobodies criticising them, what advice would you give if it was your son? as even the most popular stars in the world take Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez they sell out hundred of thousand ticket tours in minutes which reflects how much people like they're shit but make no mistake their online presence is riddled with hate and trolls.

Don't you think this reflects badly on their IQ? Or is this an emotional growth issue.

I think you nailed it.
Trolls want to be Noticed.
I don't have time for those fools. Foolishness gets ignored by me. Internet Trolls, Troll. It's what they do. Why be surprised? They have a place in this world, just not in my world.
Next.....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 04:52:01 AM
Shawn - if you had the 1 picture - the only one - you personally feel you were at your peak was at - what would it be? 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 06, 2017, 04:55:13 AM
im not sure Earl I've asked him a couple of times, a prime Kevin, a prime Flex a prime Ray vs a prime Heath...

I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: JAGO on October 06, 2017, 05:24:34 AM
bad advice from his guru?

Shawn went full Chad on him.

J


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LittleJ on October 06, 2017, 10:11:32 AM
Your thin skin looked great on stage, but in life you need a thick skin

Afraid of a brother that speaks his mind? :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 06, 2017, 10:42:18 AM
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."


Bodybuilding is not a sport.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 06, 2017, 10:58:21 AM
Afraid of a brother that speaks his mind? :)

You're too much of a dumb fuck to understand my words, ask your parents for a better brain


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Beefjake on October 06, 2017, 11:39:49 AM
Shawn.

Did you do any college level football or was it just in high school?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
Afraid of a brother that speaks his mind? :)

Hi Benny


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on October 06, 2017, 11:42:16 AM
Hi Benny

Schlomo Manciewicz aka Benny Blanco


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 06, 2017, 11:48:09 AM
Shawn! You seem like you are quite full of yourself! Like u see yourself as a celebrity of sorts? You’re a nobody! The average person has no clue who u are-a soft pretzel is more famous than you!
Did u envision all the forum members bowing to you and praising you?
Why don’t u answer everyone’s questions?
You’re a fat old fossil-no one even cares about the dumb interviews you do



I'M sure Shawn is more than able to answer you if chooses.

It's strange you would attack him like that
This is Bodybuilding Forum or at least it's meant to be
And Shawn was one of top professional competitors of his era
Whether you or I like that or not.

If you dislike Shawn or his physique that's a different matter & your opinion

Your delusional if you really think Shawn is a nobody in terms of his success as a pro bodybuilder
And his status on a Bodybuilding forum.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DarthSidious on October 06, 2017, 12:11:28 PM
Shawn,

You were/are known for not snapping your shit up from lifting, but you moved some impressive weights on video.  What were your best training poundages?

Also, why do you rate Franco the worst Olympia winner?  Even with his shitty quads and bitch tits in his comeback, his upper body was still killer.  I think Dickerson is far and away the worst Mr. O...his arms were small, he'd torn a pec (and his chest was unimpressive to begin with), he had those retarded-looking elbows, weird abs, was narrow and just *small* overall.  Great calves, outstanding quad separation, good triceps but only evident in the side tri pose, OK back thickness and he was ripped...that's really all I can say for him.  Many guys in the early eighties destroyed him in most of the mandatories.  How he beat Platz, Padilla, Callender, Viator, Zane, Mentzer, Boyer and Wilcosz (sp?) some of those years simply baffles me.

At the risk of sounding like a total kissass, I could say the same about your Arnold and Ironman platings in '96.  I like Vince Taylor, but his pecs were pancake thin compared to his delts and arms, and even though you came in heavier than usual, you were still better conditioned.  Then, Paul was lean as hell and gigantic, but from the waist up, he looked terrible from the back.  You should have been second at the Ironman and battling Levrone for second at the ASC.

Fwiw, I also had you third in the '99 Olympia.  I scored it Ron, Chris, you, Ken, Kevin and then your pal, Lee :D, followed by your other good buddy Nasser.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LittleJ on October 06, 2017, 12:34:17 PM
You're too much of a dumb fuck to understand my words, ask your parents for a better brain

Don't you have a concert to shoot up


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LittleJ on October 06, 2017, 12:35:30 PM
Hi Benny

I thought he was dead ???


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: johnny1 on October 06, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."

ok well thanks for addressing the question, but with due respect it wasn't a "what" if Question Shawn if was a...in your opinion...question, for most the 1990s I was arguably the best Greco wrestler in my country bar none I haven't competed in over 15 years now but the younger kids (guys in their 20s) ask me frequently how I'd do against the best wrestlers nowadays...and I answer them honestly...in my opinion...it doesn't make it a FACT...it's just my opinion.

You were one of the very best of ANY GENARATION of bodybuilders and you proved it consistently over the 1980s-1990s...that's the reason I asked you YOUR OPINION shawn it's not a crime too say you feel you could beat the best of today personally I think there's a good chance you'd beat MOST top guys nowadays but heaths a tougher closer thing against Phil because regardless of his persona he's pretty complete...and so we're you.

It's not a crime too admit you were good enough too beat the newer generation it's just your opinion.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 06, 2017, 07:57:33 PM
I don't live in a world of "What if's?"
It's that simple.
We all 3 took turns beating each other in head to head competition which made us all better and more Aware of each other's gifts, strengths & weaknesses.
It's a sport of Opinion.
I'm raising my kids not wondering "If" this or if that.
I'm 16 years removed from the stage bro, I look back with admiration and appreciation not with "What if'."


i'm guessing this is your way of saying phil would beat you guys, because you did say that you would beat flex lewis

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 07, 2017, 02:14:10 AM
If you think Lee is an "Ambassador" for this sport, I certainly won't try to dignify you're question with an answer.
#KeepItMovin
May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 07, 2017, 02:17:01 AM
May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.

flex was a skinny ecto who destroyed himself with oil..


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 07, 2017, 02:23:35 AM
May be not as a person but his physique has been and will be inspirational in years to come.here is what i see as a follower of the sports.You,Padilla,labrada,dexter,priest,Makkway and of course the greatest potential ever walked on bodybuilding stage flex wheeler will always be source of inspiration for young or old school bodybuilders.lots of people have problem with your self cantered attitude.i never seen you conducting an interview without mentioning you glory day story...very petty and insecure if you ask me.so much for being judgemental.here is question for you.tell me if Jim Manion and Rafael santonja are fighting over money or ego.either way they will destroy the sports.where you standing in this dispute.

And you didn’t mention Kevin who was one of the greatest of the 90’s and should have a been a O winner haha


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 07, 2017, 03:02:38 AM
So Shawn do you think this is a sport or a schport?  ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: m8 on October 07, 2017, 05:56:15 AM
Loved your honesty and commentary at the Olympia. It was a breath of fresh air  :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 07, 2017, 07:21:34 AM
And you didn’t mention Kevin who was one of the greatest of the 90’s and should have a been a O winner haha
obviously potential wise i do not see him there.please tell me a year when he should have won Olympia and did,t..Bit over rated tbh.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 07, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
flex was a skinny ecto who destroyed himself with oil..
flex would win over 90% vote on any board for being all time best bodybuilding physique on Olympia stage.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 07, 2017, 07:30:11 AM
I knew that Shawn would visit the Netherlands, but I forget the date. Well, it was last weekend, so Hi Shawn, hope you liked your visit


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on October 07, 2017, 09:56:08 AM
shawn, at the olympia 2000 back stage why did you refuse to give levrone a piece of the orange you had when he asked you to stop his cramps?..  >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 07, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
shawn, at the olympia 2000 back stage why did you refuse to give levrone a piece of the orange you had when he asked you to stop his cramps?..  >:( >:( >:(

Because he got it from a young Kai Greene...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 07, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
Never met anyone else like Shawn. A sociologist, a bodybuilder and also a bodybuildingwriter. Creds to him! Like myself.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on October 07, 2017, 10:23:46 AM
Because he got it from a young Kai Greene...

 ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 07, 2017, 10:43:53 AM
Shawn,

One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.

If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines

That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 10:53:29 AM
Shawn,

One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.

If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines

That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks
Good question.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 07, 2017, 01:17:55 PM
Good question.

here is a good example, minimal talk during the routine, different sport but similar where they have personal routines to music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivQ9Sb-PZEA


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 08, 2017, 06:17:12 AM
Is Shawn Ray a sociopath or the greatest Mr.O never crowned? Speak up for yourself


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 08, 2017, 07:28:24 AM
The day Shawn Ray runned away from a challenge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2SNVjAJAA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSlJOheheo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 08, 2017, 09:04:14 AM
I knew that Shawn would visit the Netherlands, but I forget the date. Well, it was last weekend, so Hi Shawn, hope you liked your visit

wonder if he nailed any of your dutch white girls  ???


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 08, 2017, 09:10:38 AM
Is Shawn Ray a sociopath or the greatest Mr.O never crowned? Speak up for yourself
definetly NOT the greatest Mr O never crowned
He was one of the more boring pros of his time-and left no legacy and paved no way -and he set no standards for anything
On video he was boring as hell and spoke with an irritating effeminate voice
His junky red car had the worst sounding brakes when he backed out of his garage-and u just about fell asleep listening to him talk about his diet and training
There were countless pros more deserving than him who should have won the O
If u wanted a pro from back in the day to represent the time period or how great bodybuilding used to be-Sean would not be it
He’s most known for trannies, confused backwards dieting, and eating a plate of fruit as a snack when he was dieting


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Conker on October 08, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
Shawn,

One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.

If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines

That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks

pro tip

turn volume control down for bits you don't want commentary


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 08, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
pro tip

turn volume control down for bits you don't want commentary

Thanks but the point is hearing the music to the posing


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 08, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Thanks but the point is hearing the music to the posing

none of them pose to the music anymore, its just background...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 08, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
Loved your honesty and commentary at the Olympia. It was a breath of fresh air  :)

Thank you.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 08, 2017, 01:27:00 PM
Shawn how long would you take off the gym and off supplements each year


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 08, 2017, 01:29:54 PM
shawn, at the olympia 2000 back stage why did you refuse to give levrone a piece of the orange you had when he asked you to stop his cramps?..  >:( >:( >:(

If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 08, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
Shawn,

One thing I noticed on all the boards and online in general in reference to the Olympia broadcast on Amazon was that people generally enjoyed the feed for a change. What they did not enjoy and this is something that is brought up online every year and nobody who does the broadcast does not seem to pay attention to is that during the personal posing routines, that nobody wants to hear the commentator yapping away because it takes away from the routine we are watching. Like seriously, you and Dan do a great job commentating, but perhaps someone needs to tell Dan specifically to shut the fuck up during the routine. You like to tell it like it is, so appreciate that I am telling it like it is. If you do not believe me, pull up the commentary of people online during the podcast and you will see those comments specifically like crazy.

If we went back to when you did your awesome routine at the Nationals, the whole would have beenruined had 2 guys been babbling the whole time during. Everyone including you talks about the lack of good posing today, but one other facet ruining the posing is exactly the babbling that goes on during live streaming of events. Boxers, hockey football, mma are geared to commentators talking during play because they don't do it to music, the posing routines are done to music 100%.. Huge difference. I suggest wathing figure skating routines as an example, they talk very little during routines

That is my major criticsm about the commentary, everything else is great, thanks

First, the Commentary is there not for the experienced & Educated but rather the Newbie and Curious watching for perhaps the 1st Time. These Broadcasts are to reach a Wider Audience than the typical die hard whom we know will tune in regardless.
Secondly, the commentary is necessary due to Music Copy Rights. When commentary is voiced over the Music the artists can't come after the Network for Monetary Royalties.
The alternative is the athletes pose to pre-purchased House Music Owned by the Network and of course then all the routines would look out of sinc and sloppy.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 08, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
First, the Commentary is there not for the experienced & Educated but rather the Newbie and Curious watching for perhaps the 1st Time. These Broadcasts are to reach a Wider Audience than the typical die hard whom we know will tune in regardless.
Secondly, the commentary is necessary due to Music Copy Rights. When commentary is voiced over the Music the artists can't come after the Network for Monetary Royalties.
The alternative is the athletes pose to pre-purchased House Music Owned by the Network and of course then all the routines would look out of sinc and sloppy.

Thanks for the response


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 08, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.

Very well articulated. I was a competitive cyclist for many years. If I guy was dying in a race and needed water I'd help out but otherwise it was up to him to be prepared. It's a race, not a party.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 08, 2017, 02:05:36 PM
First, the Commentary is there not for the experienced & Educated but rather the Newbie and Curious watching for perhaps the 1st Time. These Broadcasts are to reach a Wider Audience than the typical die hard whom we know will tune in regardless.
Secondly, the commentary is necessary due to Music Copy Rights. When commentary is voiced over the Music the artists can't come after the Network for Monetary Royalties.
The alternative is the athletes pose to pre-purchased House Music Owned by the Network and of course then all the routines would look out of sinc and sloppy.

As opposed to polished and professional as they are normally?

Come on Shawn, even you have got to admit posing has gone down the shitter.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 08, 2017, 02:11:08 PM
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
It was only an Orange, man!!!
Then again, even Arnold made a distinction between competitors during competition and friendship.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on October 08, 2017, 02:40:56 PM
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.

There's competition but then there's also sportsmanship.

I'd rather beat my opponent because I'm better, not because he got hurt or injured, but that's just me.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 08, 2017, 02:45:11 PM
There's competition but then there's also sportsmanship.

I'd rather beat my opponent because I'm better, not because he got hurt or injured.
A slice or two of an orange may have given Kevin an unfair advantage over Shawn. I mean, Shawn didn't have an American flag stuffed in his trunks.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 08, 2017, 06:06:03 PM
obviously potential wise i do not see him there.please tell me a year when he should have won Olympia and did,t..Bit over rated tbh.

please tell me what year shawn or flex should've won

Mr. Levrone won more shows than both, beat both more than he lost to them, and was runner up 4 times so you tell me what he lacked "potential wise" compared to those 2

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 09, 2017, 01:44:29 AM
Some great pics of Sean:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310733.0;attach=350796;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40972&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1998-mr-olympia-48_20090830_1212431558.jpg)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41218&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.ambal.ru/02415771615.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 09, 2017, 02:03:15 AM
Lol

Did you purposely post pics where Shawn is getting destroyed


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 09, 2017, 02:28:44 AM
Lol

Did you purposely post pics where Shawn is getting destroyed

NO!

That's preposterous!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sceagacros on October 09, 2017, 02:38:24 AM
I understand denying a competitor a bite from an orange, but what if Levrone had asked to borrow your sock to stuff his thong? Where exactly do you draw the line between giving an opponent an unfair advantage and basic human decency?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 09, 2017, 04:27:14 AM
I think Shawn is one of the best bb:s to never be crowned Olympia. It is very close between him Levrone, Wheeler. Maybe he's a jerk but don't really know him. Hope he lives a good life not bitter about Yates wins still though.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 09, 2017, 04:39:31 AM
Dear Shawn Ray, i remember a 1995 Flex magazine article, where you reported your secrets to get ready for contest. I was a teenager then.
You gave credit to your superior diet discipline, taking suplements to stay sharp and energized for workouts, like multiminerals, multivitamins, branched-chain and free-form amino acids, and specially drinking two large glasses of water, with every meal.
We all know that without steroids you wouldn't have gone anywhere, bodybuilding wise.

My question to you is this:

Do you feel guilty for misleading a whole generation of young bodybuilders, for not telling them the truth, ruinning their dreams, of becoming competitive thongsters?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 09, 2017, 11:32:53 AM
If Kevin liked Oranges so much he should have packed some.
I didn't go to the Mr Olympia contest to feed the Hungry, Poor, Neglated or the Idiotic.
I was there to Compete and brought what I needed to be effective in doing so. If he was cramping he should as for a doctor. We were Competitors not Friends at competitions.
You think he would share his Prize Money with me?
Looked like he survived and competed for years to come.
See, you have to be a good judge when it comes to "Want vs Need."
Kevin "wanted" some of my Orange, he didn't Need it.
Therein lies the difference in giving an opponent an Unfair Advantage.
ah yes! There’s the old Sean we all know-oh man these shows sounded brutal to compete in!! I would love to see a nfl player, or an Olympic athelete try to survive the meal prep and walking on the treadmill you guys endured! Not even navy seal training compares to how rough it sounded like u guys had it!!!
How did u survive Sean??? How did u get through the arm workouts and drinking your 2 glasses of water a meal??


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 09, 2017, 10:46:36 PM
As opposed to polished and professional as they are normally?

Come on Shawn, even you have got to admit posing has gone down the shitter.

Stevie Wonder could see that.
What's you're point?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 09, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
Dear Shawn Ray, i remember a 1995 Flex magazine article, where you reported your secrets to get ready for contest. I was a teenager then.
You gave credit to your superior diet discipline, taking suplements to stay sharp and energized for workouts, like multiminerals, multivitamins, branched-chain and free-form amino acids, and specially drinking two large glasses of water, with every meal.
We all know that without steroids you wouldn't have gone anywhere, bodybuilding wise.

My question to you is this:

Do you feel guilty for misleading a whole generation of young bodybuilders, for not telling them the truth, ruinning their dreams, of becoming competitive thongsters?



Yes. Sad too😎


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 12:25:20 AM
Stevie Wonder could see that.
What's you're point?

the point is you said they had to talk over the music and if they didn't the competitors would have to pose to music dubbed over and that it would ruin the routines.

My point is you could sing a chorus of "happy birthday to you" over 90% of todays routines and you wouldn't know that they hadnt picked it themselves.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 10, 2017, 12:48:34 AM
Some more extraordinary pictures:

(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41506&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160812/c7f0bf927781d48ec94570714c2ceba3.png)
(https://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1999.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41101&option=com_joomgallery)
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/flex-wheeler-and-shawn-ray.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 10, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=39910&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=39911&option=com_joomgallery)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Randomum on October 10, 2017, 02:41:55 AM
Shawn your physique was one of the few that never got bloated in the 2000s. Did you use slin and gh? If so how much compared to your competition?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 02:43:51 AM
Shawn your physique was one of the few that never got bloated in the 2000s. Did you use slin and gh? If so how much compared to your competition?
already said no....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dave19 on October 10, 2017, 02:50:29 AM
Shawn what do you think of the 212 class?

Would you have competed in it or would you have stayed in the open class even though your chances of winning a Mr Olympia 212 title would have been a lot better obviously?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 10, 2017, 09:17:44 AM
please tell me what year shawn or flex should've won

Mr. Levrone won more shows than both, beat both more than he lost to them, and was runner up 4 times so you tell me what he lacked "potential wise" compared to those 2

E
i dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.


Title: Re: Jay - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rambone on October 10, 2017, 09:27:31 AM
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/vqz2NM.gif)


Title: Re: Jay - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 10, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/vqz2NM.gif)

My son and I were working out at the SLC Gold's on Van Winkle Drive, sometime around 2007-2008.  In waddles Jay Cutler (must have been there for some promotional deal) and lumbers across the gym while texting on his phone.  My kid had no idea who he was but he remarked that the big dude was "terminally buff."  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2017, 10:59:45 AM
i dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.


Opinions -- Clearly the judges didn't quite see at that way as kev did place ahead of them several times.

All 3 were top of the tree pro's in their day.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 10, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
i dont care how many shows he won kevin has weak back which throw him out of hall of fame instantly .shawn and flex simply has wao factor when they hit front and back db cuz they flow better from head to toe better tie ins and muscle density.not sure about shawn because small guy will always have disadvantage winning olympia but if flex did not got hurt he would have taken at least 2 Olympia titles from Ronnie.he was the only guy who could beat less than 100% Ronnie.

out of hall of fame?

ok you are right, shawn winning 2 shows while Mr. Levrone won 20 and beat shawn and flex more than he lost to them means nothing and more "wao" factor ::)

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 10, 2017, 06:31:57 PM
Shawn, Kevin, Flex, Cormier and their fellow competitors were the last generation of professional bodybuilders that actually looked incredible . Dorian came in and looked good for the first few years before the big guts took over. Now, with a few exceptions, they look like crap . Phil Heath is an abortion. 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2017, 10:20:58 PM
Shawn, Kevin, Flex, Cormier and their fellow competitors were the last generation of professional bodybuilders that actually looked incredible . Dorian came in and looked good for the first few years before the big guts took over. Now, with a few exceptions, they look like crap . Phil Heath is an abortion. 


Phil did look good the 1st couple of years - Quickly went all pudgy dough boy looking & as for his midsection awful.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 10, 2017, 11:01:01 PM
Shawn what do you think of the 212 class?

Would you have competed in it or would you have stayed in the open class even though your chances of winning a Mr Olympia 212 title would have been a lot better obviously?

No I would not have competed in it as it was clear I was already the Best 212lb BBer.
I was trying to be The Best Bodybuilder, anything less would not be very appealing to me.


Title: Re: Jay - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: kreator on October 10, 2017, 11:01:37 PM
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/vqz2NM.gif)

typical gym behaviour, nothing to see here, move along ...


Title: Re: Jay - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: seCrawler on October 10, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/vqz2NM.gif)

There couldn't be another Mr O more boring than this clown and his protege Heath.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on October 10, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
Shawn's answer to some questions/posts


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: denarii on October 11, 2017, 12:46:53 AM
Shawn are you going to write an expose? Maybe even get a Netflix series out of it?


Title: Re: Jay - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 11, 2017, 12:48:14 AM
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/vqz2NM.gif)

A grown man pulling his pants down and waddling around the gym in his underpants.

Some "sport" this is.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 01:09:04 AM
No I would not have competed in it as it was clear I was already the Best 212lb BBer.
I was trying to be The Best Bodybuilder, anything less would not be very appealing to me.

Do you believe you never won because you didn't pay your dues, hard enough?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on October 11, 2017, 01:40:36 AM
If you had to be resurrected, would you come back as a black man or white?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 11, 2017, 02:16:48 AM
ah yes! There’s the old Sean we all know

Agreed.

Though, I would doubt many current people here would know that Shawn is an asshole.

I'm sure they'll become clearer on that as he expresses himself with more charmless justifications on subjects - such as why Kevin Levrone couldn't have a piece of orange.

And don't get me wrong, I think you're entitled to wage your thong war however you please - I think an asshole is also someone who says that you must give your food to someone - no, it's the phrasing - the bitchiness.

You can get the same pettiness you're watching that video where he wandering around hotel grounds?, luxuriating on Lee Priest's fortunes.   You can tell, this is man that is lacking in class.

That being said, honestly, bodybuilding needs someone who is willing to go into that territory and say it like it is because geez it is full of very fragile egos.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 02:24:22 AM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvACy16mO7bHQ99Hex9eN0G1056CfrKXfa1wP3_4k3OYfMfempqg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I76Y8xXdT4Y/0.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 11, 2017, 02:52:41 AM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)

all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 02:59:55 AM
Shane was great .


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 11, 2017, 03:07:02 AM
Shane was great .
;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 11, 2017, 03:09:48 AM
Yes. Sad too😎

Hahaha! You crack me up man  :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on October 11, 2017, 03:35:30 AM
Agreed.

Though, I would doubt many current people here would know that Shawn is an asshole.

He's short, american and a bodybuilder.

Chances of the above not being an asshole is like coming across a vegan Hyena.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 04:23:35 AM
No I would not have competed in it as it was clear I was already the Best 212lb BBer.
I was trying to be The Best Bodybuilder, anything less would not be very appealing to me.

Lee Priest was also one of the Best, like you.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1SHl8mfICgg/T3YnTMmWa1I/AAAAAAAAH-o/GL2Dmu8ux_0/s1600/02-lee-priest-17.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 11, 2017, 04:25:39 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b2/f2/97/b2f297c3e80229cd40c81655ad59d3bc.jpg)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40008&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9f/40/8d/9f408d2842f56bdf085a46fe26cbb138.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 11, 2017, 04:57:18 AM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvACy16mO7bHQ99Hex9eN0G1056CfrKXfa1wP3_4k3OYfMfempqg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I76Y8xXdT4Y/0.jpg)
Shawn and Dorian had thicker lats than Flex. Flex's natural taper is what gave him an illusion. Imagine if he had more lat muscle at that condition and waist size, he'd be like a more complete Brian Buchanan.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 11, 2017, 05:44:41 AM
Lee Priest was also one of the Best, like you.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1SHl8mfICgg/T3YnTMmWa1I/AAAAAAAAH-o/GL2Dmu8ux_0/s1600/02-lee-priest-17.jpg)

Shawn was much better

Lee had the freaky factor and more weaknesses, long torso, short legs, no chest, subpar back, even narrower than phil


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 11, 2017, 05:52:27 AM
Shawn was much better

Lee had the freaky factor and more weaknesses, long torso, short legs, no chest, subpar back, even narrower than phil

Agreed, Shawn much better.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 11, 2017, 07:07:06 AM
out of hall of fame?

ok you are right, shawn winning 2 shows while Mr. Levrone won 20 and beat shawn and flex more than he lost to them means nothing and more "wao" factor ::)

E

kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 11, 2017, 07:49:36 AM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)

all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.

Agreed.  I thought so too at the time.

Who came up with this "you can't just beat the champ, you've got to knock him out" bullshit?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 11, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.

This is ridiculous!!

Lee could never hold Kevin’s stuffed thong, EVER

I’ve always said flex 93 was one of the greatest but flex is so up and down, oil all over the place

Kevin, at many times was better than both, I would say Cormier a lot of times was better than flex and in 1999 he should have been 2nd, not flex, chris is a more compete bber overall than flex, no missing body parts


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 11, 2017, 07:56:36 AM
Lots of history in this pic--we see in the background from L-R:  Darrem Charles (still competing at the highest level in Classic Physique today), Chris Cormier getting a zit on his back popped by, who is that, Roland Cziurlok?  And Mike Francois.

(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40008&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on October 11, 2017, 08:17:46 AM
Q - What does Shawn Ray do when his peers and writers point out to him that he started out relatively well off and pampered?

A - Shawn invents and pushes narrative that when he was starting out he cleaned toilets. Therefore making Shawn seem one of the bluecollar guys.
      (another classic bodybuilding lie by a classic bodybuilder)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 11, 2017, 09:39:22 AM
Yeah its an even call between Shawn and Priest. But symmetry and cuts is a prime cieria and Shawn had him every time. Scores dont lie!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 11, 2017, 11:00:02 AM
Shawn which pro do you think retired/quit before their true potential was realized.  Meaning if they had stuck to it a little bit longer their careers would have gone higher?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: denarii on October 11, 2017, 11:31:07 AM
Shawn which pro do you think retired/quit before their true potential was realized.  Meaning if they had stuck to it a little bit longer their careers would have gone higher?

Dialysis mckidney has to be up there.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 11, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)

all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.

shanes arms are the same size as his delts which is ace

plates arms suck ass and his delts and back crush his arms

the back and delts of a superheavy and the arms of a middeweight lol


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 11, 2017, 11:45:49 AM

Phil did look good the 1st couple of years - Quickly went all pudgy dough boy looking & as for his midsection awful.

I agree. But it didn't take long for that to happen!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 11, 2017, 11:50:21 AM
Phil is still the CLEAR winner. It's not all about the size Big Ramy brings. Kuwait mofo needs to get cut. He's close but needs to walk the distance. Not taking away anything from Shawn even if I joke with him.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Keto Kid on October 11, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
Shawn what are your thoughts on Jose Raymond's latest youtube video in particular around the 10:30 mark and on, when his wife calls you a "Prick" and is trying to find you I guess to confront you. Why were they so mad at you? What did you say about Jose?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9eiU6i0sOg


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2017, 01:22:18 PM
Shawn what are your thoughts on Jose Raymond's latest youtube video in particular around the 10:30 mark and on, when his wife calls you a "Prick" and is trying to find you I guess to confront you. Why were they so mad at you? What did you say about Jose?

You can be honest in your criticism without getting hated by so many, but Shawn doesn't know how or he simply doesn't care...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on October 11, 2017, 01:41:48 PM
Dear Shane:

When you took this picture, were you aware of the previous fecal developments, surrounding that cleavage?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=745444;image)
Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.

Do I blame Shawn? Hell no. She is the definition of a groupie.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2017, 01:52:09 PM
Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.

Do I blame Shawn? Hell no. She is the definition of a groupie.

Completely off-topic, but what's going on with your posts counter?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 11, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Completely off-topic, but what's going on with your posts counter?

leet = 1337

Ron set that up a long time ago.  Kinda funny.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 11, 2017, 01:57:40 PM
kevin came in when shawn was skipping from his prime and flex was climbing.if them 3 stand to gather at their prime condition kevin have no chance beating both of them.actually when flex hit his prime at 1998 olympia kevin hardly manage to make 4th.he should have been out of top 6.lee priest was screwed there should have been 3rd.he knew than his time is up..that is why that was his last olympia.

skipping from his prime?  what does that mean?  they competed against each other from 92 - 2001

the fact still remains Mr. Levrone beat both more than they beat him, and that includes the beginning, middle and end of their careers so i don't know where you are getting this "no chance" at beating them during their prime condition

shawn competed once a year while Mr. Levrone competed all year, it's easy to peak for one show

all you have are your opinions which are wrong, lee priest?  get outta here with your stupid biases i'll stick to the facts

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 11, 2017, 02:00:23 PM
(http://www.diariodoculturismo.com.br/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1994-mr-olympia-bw-47_20090830_1589987291.jpg)

all the talk of Dorians granite hardness, Shawn looks more detailed in that shot and for me takes it.

i think shawn's legs look better, but dorian wins this shot

back is bigger, harder, more detailed look at the difference in christmas trees

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on October 11, 2017, 02:02:15 PM
Completely off-topic, but what's going on with your posts counter?
It means what I have been telling you guys the entire time.

It is nerd term for elite. He named me King, now he just confirms it.  8)

leet = 1337

Ron set that up a long time ago.  Kinda funny.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2017, 02:10:53 PM
It means what I have been telling you guys the entire time.

It is nerd term for elite. He named me King, now he just confirms it.  8)


So papa Ron loves easter eggs, nice one


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on October 11, 2017, 11:08:26 PM
Shawn,

I'd like some answers straight from the horses mouth and please be very honest and Thank you!
I can completely understand if you do not want to answer and plead the 5th like Lil Jon.
Lets get started!

I understand that you tried to be a genuine IFBB athletes rep many years ago making sure No Olympia athlete left without some prize money, getting health insurance and a voice heard for all top pro athletes ect...
Did you ever consider working for the NPC and or the IFBB to get them to give out Fitness related prizes as well like Golds gym memberships, exercise equipment, food and travel gift cards, airline tickets, 100lbs of protein, or whatever as long as it was fitness related prizes?

Why are all these nutritional companies so cheap with contracts and sponsorships in your opinion, do you consider yourself cheap?
Did you ever contact Tyson chicken or the starfish Tuna, Pasta companies or any other food related brand?

The organization can rake and take in all this money from competitors and only give out hand shakes, pats on the back, $10 medals and $20 trophies literally giving nothing back in terms of prizes, don't you think this is long over do in both the IFBB and NPC?

Did Sponsorship seem like looking for a needle in a haystack if you were an IFBB pro and were not signed by Weiders?

Did you ever contribute financially towards Donations, disaster relief or religious affiliates, if so which ones?

What did uncle Joe pay?
According Jean Pierre Fux he got over 10k a month, how bout Mr. Ray's Pay?

What is your real nickname Sugar? or Stingray??...according to Kevin or is it "El Chihuahua" according to Nasser-RIP-1997 MR.0
you mentioned you were not friends with Kevin backstage over a piece of orange, C'mon man...really?
u really would have Slipped from 3rd to 4th over a piece of orange?

Did you top 5 guys really think u could beat Doz if he had been a wheelchair athlete in 1997?
Torn bicep, torn tricep, torn Quad, boils with back acne, bloated distended stomach, awkward shoulders, over weight spilled over and just awful.
How many points should have been knocked off his perfect score points total round for round?

Speaking of Doz he never got any better after 1993 but you did and the judges had already seen yates at his best, 1994 yates was nothing special anymore but you were awarded 2nd. pound for pound you were the better bodybuilder, had you been 5'10 and 260lb your the winner.
What the fuck went thru your mind that night after the 1994 O when you lost but had won the show?
U also rolled your eyes in 1996 just after being announced 2nd, please elaborate on your mental thoughts when this happened?

Why were you always going after Lee Priest's sloppy seconds girlfriends like Laurie Donnelly?
Do you have a fetish for other bodybuilders ex's or just Andrew McCutcheon's aka LP?
U dirty dawg Chihuahua, Did you ever hit it with Adela Garcia?

Did you ever feel like you were a spiritual demon and not an angel of light when it comes to Personal Character, Integrity and Sportsmanship?

how long did you lease the red Lambo Diablo?

No more questions at this time Mr. Ray.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2017, 06:40:25 AM
Shawn what are your thoughts on Jose Raymond's latest youtube video in particular around the 10:30 mark and on, when his wife calls you a "Prick" and is trying to find you I guess to confront you. Why were they so mad at you? What did you say about Jose?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9eiU6i0sOg


Laughable

What "wife" wouldn't get angry if her husband was being analyzed and broken down on camera? A wife only wa Rd to hear Praise and positivity of her man who's dieted & sacrifices so much to compete. I get it.
My job however is not to cater to the wives of the competitors in my analysis. Hence, the evaluation is not all Roses and Sunshine.
I don't have an opinion here. Listen to my Olympia commentary and you tell me if this isn't a classic case of Denial & Over-reacting.
Jose has always been cool with me but god forbid I mention he's among the older 212 competitors nearing the end of a glamourous career, battling lingering injuries and is not as good as he once was.
Gotta love the Peanut Gallery😜


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2017, 06:41:29 AM
You can be honest in your criticism without getting hated by so many, but Shawn doesn't know how or he simply doesn't care...

I don't do Critiques based on what others might think of me.
Hence the reason I got the job. ✌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 12, 2017, 07:21:57 AM
Sean
What are the Weider offices like? Any interesting memorabilia on the walls?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 12, 2017, 07:25:02 AM
Some of the memorabilia on the walls, is only visible with luminol.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 12, 2017, 07:26:42 AM
Some of the memorabilia on the walls, is only visible with luminol.
sean what is he referring to?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on October 12, 2017, 07:37:01 AM
He looks expectant

This was the day before he prolapsed her anus.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2017, 10:23:42 AM
My commentary on Jose Raymond.
Not sure what the fuss by his wife was all about?
Anyone want to help me understand?
Are we that sensitive that we can't acknowledge the Aging process?
https://youtu.be/gj1fj1lWW-M


In his own words at the Press Conference he references he's "Older, Older, Eldest."
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2017-olympia-press-conference-part-3


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dan-O on October 12, 2017, 10:27:10 AM
My commentary on Jose Raymond.
Not sure what the fuss by his wife was all about?
Anyone want to help me understand?
Are we that sensitive that we can't acknowledge the Aging process?
https://youtu.be/gj1fj1lWW-M


In his own words at the Press Conference he references he's "Older, Older, Eldest."
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2017-olympia-press-conference-part-3

What I gathered from Jose's YouTube video was that you didn't talk enough about him during your live commentary.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 12, 2017, 01:32:51 PM
skipping from his prime?  what does that mean?  they competed against each other from 92 - 2001

the fact still remains Mr. Levrone beat both more than they beat him, and that includes the beginning, middle and end of their careers so i don't know where you are getting this "no chance" at beating them during their prime condition

shawn competed once a year while Mr. Levrone competed all year, it's easy to peak for one show

all you have are your opinions which are wrong, lee priest?  get outta here with your stupid biases i'll stick to the facts

E
what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 12, 2017, 01:42:39 PM
I don't do Critiques based on what others might think of me.
Hence the reason I got the job. ✌🏽
José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2017, 03:48:33 PM
José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.

Agree with you on this
Jose was clearly better than ahmed - ridiculous not to compare them.

The camel crews $ has also been used to prevent a certain other bodybuilder from
Being given his pro card - As he's beaten ahmed on a few previous occasions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 12, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
José Raymond was the best Jose Raymond ever on 2017 Olympia stage.one of the very few people who got better with age.He was close 2nd with better front than flex.Ahmed guy was bound to placed 2nd because of Badar money influence in IFBB.that is why he was not compared with Jose just to save face.IFBB got away with nonsense like these for long time but this circus is going to be end soon.process is already started its just matter of time.
And still Jose Raymond has a terrible unaesthetic shape. He has no real flow, and is just a lump of muscle. Back when Phil Heath won his first two contests, David Henry could hold his own in those contests. I sincerely doubt Jose could.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Oblique on October 12, 2017, 04:34:23 PM
Shawn,

Do you agree with most that the sport is pretty much dead?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 12, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Ahhhh......"booty". I have to give her some credit. She named herself perfectly, as to what the male population sees her as.

Do I blame Shawn? Hell no. She is the definition of a groupie.

Why did she chose to be a bodybuilding groupie? Bodybuilders are among the poorest pro "athletes". We not go after legit athletes that make millions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
What I gathered from Jose's YouTube video was that you didn't talk enough about him during your live commentary.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 12, 2017, 08:37:42 PM
My commentary on Jose Raymond.
Not sure what the fuss by his wife was all about?
Anyone want to help me understand?
Are we that sensitive that we can't acknowledge the Aging process?
https://youtu.be/gj1fj1lWW-M


In his own words at the Press Conference he references he's "Older, Older, Eldest."
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2017-olympia-press-conference-part-3

It was great commentary- and I see nothing wrong with it. A lot of time people lash out at whomever they can when things don't go as planned. Jose seems like a cool guy. He just didn't win. That's the way bodybuilding, and life, is.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on October 12, 2017, 08:45:16 PM
Shawn Derek really held his own in his first Olympia. Do you see him as the future of the 212 division or will he outgrow it?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 12, 2017, 09:31:24 PM
Shawn Derek really held his own in his first Olympia. Do you see him as the future of the 212 division or will he outgrow it?

Derek is on the right path! He will be the Real Deal in another couple years!
He needs bigger posing trunks from the rear tho👌🏽


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Trev on October 13, 2017, 02:09:42 AM
i think shawn's legs look better, but dorian wins this shot

back is bigger, harder, more detailed look at the difference in christmas trees

E

Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!!  Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!!  Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings

dullian seemed to bring in the all torso/legs no arms/chest look, which is just god awful


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SquatsRule on October 13, 2017, 11:00:55 AM
Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!!  Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings

He was also awarded for his conditioning. He was huge no doubt, but I was never really a big fan of his physique. I thought Shawn, Kevin or Flex should of won a few of those olympias.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 13, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.



Huh?? That means Kevin is better  ::)

I don’t understand how you looked at pro wins and say flex is better than Kevin but yet Shawn competed in one show year round and concluded Shawn is better than Kevin (no knock on Shawn either)

If you want to say pro shows and wins then dexter is better than all 3 cause he’s won so many Arnold’s I can’t remember and a O title

And phil also, a long with jay since they are O winners


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 13, 2017, 12:30:46 PM

Huh?? That means Kevin is better  ::)

I don’t understand how you looked at pro wins and say flex is better than Kevin but yet Shawn competed in one show year round and concluded Shawn is better than Kevin (no knock on Shawn either)

If you want to say pro shows and wins then dexter is better than all 3 cause he’s won so many Arnold’s I can’t remember and a O title

And phil also, a long with jay since they are O winners
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 13, 2017, 12:38:30 PM
Agree with you on this
Jose was clearly better than ahmed - ridiculous not to compare them.

The camel crews $ has also been used to prevent a certain other bodybuilder from
Being given his pro card - As he's beaten ahmed on a few previous occasions.
Badar is new bad news for the sports in longer period.camel crew is rude ignorant pricks with lots of money.they not doing it for the love of the sports they doing it to make themselves look good.their head is up their ass.their controlling nature will fuck things up sooner than latter.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rajkapoor on October 13, 2017, 12:55:21 PM
And still Jose Raymond has a terrible unaesthetic shape. He has no real flow, and is just a lump of muscle. Back when Phil Heath won his first two contests, David Henry could hold his own in those contests. I sincerely doubt Jose could.
How can you place Mr no legs Badar,s donkey ahmed over even unaesthetic jose without being compared. you really don't see anything wrong in it?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 13, 2017, 12:55:29 PM
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.

Shawn didn’t win more than Kevin though...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mclovin on October 13, 2017, 04:07:28 PM
Shawn, did you play football in high school? You seem like you could have been a good running back. Also, are you still going to support the Raiders when they’re in Vegas?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 13, 2017, 04:34:19 PM
Not much getting answered on here anymore


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ChristopherA on October 13, 2017, 04:46:19 PM
dullian seemed to bring in the all torso/legs no arms/chest look, which is just god awful
You re so obsessed with arms yet yours are tiny. Ya they are cut but I have seen skinny heroin addicts with arms like yours


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2017, 05:25:37 PM
Even though I am a brit I couldn't understand how a one armed guy could ever win the Olympia!!  Dorian was incredible but with a busted bicep he should have relegated down the final placings


Same as
How did Franco win with huge gyno & no leg development
How did Dickerson win with 2 busted biceps & a busted pec & pointy elbows
How did Ronnie win with  huge gyno / torn lat / thigh / tricep / huge gut
How did Heath win with a busted gut no abs & that alien growing out of it.

Dorian in comparison to some of these wiiners at times Was Damn  Near Perfect
In Comparison.... ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 13, 2017, 08:32:36 PM
Shawn, did you play football in high school? You seem like you could have been a good running back. Also, are you still going to support the Raiders when they’re in Vegas?

I played from 8 to 18 then I quit to pursue Bodybuilding. Turned Pro 3 years later.

Raider Fans aren't "Seasonal" we are Lifers!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on October 13, 2017, 08:40:12 PM
I played from 8 to 18 then I quit to pursue Bodybuilding. Turned Pro 3 years later.

Raider Fans aren't "Seasonal" we are Lifers!


Just like Pats fans. Born in southie Patriots fan for life.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 13, 2017, 08:47:12 PM
Just like Pats fans. Born in southie Patriots fan for life.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on October 13, 2017, 08:52:50 PM



Rings are blinding that cute little guy (I have a Boston). :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on October 13, 2017, 09:54:38 PM
They say a picture tells a thousand words.

Brissett is just happy to be there and Jimmy G has the look of: "I want your job".

And Tom just looks like a middle-aged Asian man with no worries in the world.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=746944;image)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Bevo on October 13, 2017, 10:45:49 PM
Just like Pats fans. Born in southie Patriots fan for life.

You shouldn’t have done that, every raiders fans nightmare is the 2001 playoffs and then of course, the 2003 super bowl  :'( ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 14, 2017, 12:06:22 AM
what facts you talking about here are the facts. kevin had 20 victories out of over 60 pro shows while flex had 17 victories out of 30 shows.kevin had 4 2nd Olympia placings out of 12 Olympia and flex has 3 2nd places out of 7.plus flex has 4 Arnold's victories towering over Kevin,s whole career.every time kevin meet 100% on flex he get slaughtered every time he meets 100% on shawn he get hammered or narrowly able to win.you can check the score sheets of all their encounters. if you still think kevin is better bber than flex and shawn than you are delusional and biased.why not start a thread about who are top 6 greatest bodybuilding potential ever.


like i said it is easier to peak when you rarely compete, harder to stay at your peak when you compete all year

also longevity counts for a lot just look at any sports hall of fame many guys had a great peak but if it's too short they don't get into the hall or they have to wait a long time

20 pro wins > 2 pro wins

more career wins against both of them than losses even when at the disadvantage of competing more often

all facts but you are free to carry on with your delusions and biases, you can't rewrite history

E


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 14, 2017, 12:15:53 AM
No my claim for flex and shawn being hall of fame bodybuilders was not on the biases of their pro victories.you brought that up.so I had to through the counter argument for both of them being competed less and winning more than kevin.if you still not agreed than you only agree to be disagree. i can not beat that..let me say it again Flex and shawn had wao factor in every pose better muscle tie in,s density more tissues per sq inch than Kevin.Most importantly kevin,s back don't belong in pro ranks like Nasser or paul dellet.To me being in hall of fame means most perfect physique from every angle from head to toe from front to back sides.if you have major weak body part you could be great bodybuilder and win shows but can not be in hall of fame.i rest my case...and yes dexter was in my list.

you can't be perfect when you are shorter and out muscled by the competition

flex had a middle weight chest with super heavyweight arms and abused synthol, soft glutes and hams, yeah total "perfection"  ::)

E



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: kreator on October 14, 2017, 12:18:31 AM
Gayer than worshipping athletes and “athletes”


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 14, 2017, 06:11:42 AM
Not much getting answered on here anymore

He only answers the boring stuff. I'm reading this thread before beadtime, to get sleepy.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 14, 2017, 07:40:24 AM
He only answers the boring stuff. I'm reading this thread before beadtime, to get sleepy.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 07:51:24 AM

Rings are blinding that cute little guy (I have a Boston). :D

Haters gonna hate Brady!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 07:52:02 AM
Mr. Shawn Ray, I know that you are a very forthright person when it comes to speaking your mind. With that said, I believe you will respect me if I also speak in a forthright manner. Based on the pictures below, it is quite clear that Mr. Ronnie Coleman is making you look like an amateur bodybuilder. Did you feel inferior to Mr. Coleman's superior physique?

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41116&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41465&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.ambal.ru/95207256581.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 14, 2017, 10:07:54 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZz7XxTDR6L/?taken-by=leeapriest


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on October 14, 2017, 10:33:12 AM
Ronnie is bigger in those pics with more dramatic shape, but Shawn is more aesthetic with rounder muscle bellies and way better abs. Given the choice, I'd rather look like Shawn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
Ronnie is bigger in those pics with more dramatic shape, but Shawn is more aesthetic with rounder muscle bellies and way better abs. Given the choice, I'd rather look like Shawn.

Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 14, 2017, 10:46:40 AM
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.

Ronnie had sub par calves Shawns were perfectly in proportion.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 14, 2017, 11:07:54 AM
Ronnie had sub par calves Shawns were perfectly in proportion.

And competitions are won by the calves?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 14, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
And competitions are won by the calves?
complete physiques should win shows, they seldom do...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 14, 2017, 12:05:13 PM
complete physiques should win shows, they seldom do...

Everyone has his flaws


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 14, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Everyone has his flaws

wrong
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 14, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
wrong
(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bob_Paris_55.jpg)

Bob had one of the most pleasing physiques ever (no homo myself), but his quads, chest & arms could be better.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 14, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
Bob had one of the most pleasing physiques ever (no homo myself), but his quads, chest & arms could be better.

in comparison to what, he has perfect balance, bring his quads, chest and arms up???

Why, he would just be a bigger version of himself with imbalanced back and calves.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 14, 2017, 12:18:57 PM
in comparison to what, he has perfect balance, bring his quads, chest and arms up???

Why, he would just be a bigger version of himself with imbalanced back and calves.

That's all subjective, but I can agree with you that Bob had one of the most aesthetic looking physiques, just like Milos Sarcev and Charles Clairmonte.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Lord Chronos on October 14, 2017, 12:48:39 PM
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.

From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.

Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 14, 2017, 12:51:30 PM
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.

Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.

to be fair they would be repulsed by both.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Lord Chronos on October 14, 2017, 12:56:33 PM
Shawn,

I'd like some answers straight from the horses mouth and please be very honest and Thank you!
I can completely understand if you do not want to answer and plead the 5th like Lil Jon.
Lets get started!

I understand that you tried to be a genuine IFBB athletes rep many years ago making sure No Olympia athlete left without some prize money, getting health insurance and a voice heard for all top pro athletes ect...
Did you ever consider working for the NPC and or the IFBB to get them to give out Fitness related prizes as well like Golds gym memberships, exercise equipment, food and travel gift cards, airline tickets, 100lbs of protein, or whatever as long as it was fitness related prizes?

Why are all these nutritional companies so cheap with contracts and sponsorships in your opinion, do you consider yourself cheap?
Did you ever contact Tyson chicken or the starfish Tuna, Pasta companies or any other food related brand?

The organization can rake and take in all this money from competitors and only give out hand shakes, pats on the back, $10 medals and $20 trophies literally giving nothing back in terms of prizes, don't you think this is long over do in both the IFBB and NPC?

Did Sponsorship seem like looking for a needle in a haystack if you were an IFBB pro and were not signed by Weiders?

Did you ever contribute financially towards Donations, disaster relief or religious affiliates, if so which ones?

What did uncle Joe pay?
According Jean Pierre Fux he got over 10k a month, how bout Mr. Ray's Pay?

What is your real nickname Sugar? or Stingray??...according to Kevin or is it "El Chihuahua" according to Nasser-RIP-1997 MR.0
you mentioned you were not friends with Kevin backstage over a piece of orange, C'mon man...really?
u really would have Slipped from 3rd to 4th over a piece of orange?

Did you top 5 guys really think u could beat Doz if he had been a wheelchair athlete in 1997?
Torn bicep, torn tricep, torn Quad, boils with back acne, bloated distended stomach, awkward shoulders, over weight spilled over and just awful.
How many points should have been knocked off his perfect score points total round for round?

Speaking of Doz he never got any better after 1993 but you did and the judges had already seen yates at his best, 1994 yates was nothing special anymore but you were awarded 2nd. pound for pound you were the better bodybuilder, had you been 5'10 and 260lb your the winner.
What the fuck went thru your mind that night after the 1994 O when you lost but had won the show?
U also rolled your eyes in 1996 just after being announced 2nd, please elaborate on your mental thoughts when this happened?

Why were you always going after Lee Priest's sloppy seconds girlfriends like Laurie Donnelly?
Do you have a fetish for other bodybuilders ex's or just Andrew McCutcheon's aka LP?
U dirty dawg Chihuahua, Did you ever hit it with Adela Garcia?

Did you ever feel like you were a spiritual demon and not an angel of light when it comes to Personal Character, Integrity and Sportsmanship?

how long did you lease the red Lambo Diablo?

No more questions at this time Mr. Ray.



the time you took to write this, you'll never get back.....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on October 14, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!

4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his IFBB pro card.  This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine.  However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour.  ;D

Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY!  8)

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 14, 2017, 05:31:13 PM
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!

4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his NPC pro card.  This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine.  However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour.  ;D

Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY!  8)

 ;D ;D ;D
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 14, 2017, 05:39:46 PM
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say

X2 He's just as lame as Howard


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: rocket on October 14, 2017, 05:45:50 PM
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say

Nah, that's interesting, if true.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 14, 2017, 05:47:23 PM
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!

4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his NPC pro card.  This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine.  However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour.  ;D

Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY!  8)

 ;D ;D ;D

On behalf of the Peanut Gallery, I accept this award.😜


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on October 14, 2017, 06:22:53 PM
shut the fuck up matt-no wants to hear your humor and no one cares what you have to say

X2 He's just as lame as Howard

It is hard to be funny, but...

Nah, that's interesting, if true.

Exactly!  But it's a fact.  I would have to dig up an archived copy of the IFBB rule book from 2001, but I'm pretty sure posing trunks are supposed to be one solid colour.  Not like that would have disqualified Ronnie, but technically, if Shawn hired lawyers, the way that Jay did, who knows?

The fact of the matter was, Kevin was late in paying his IFBB pro card fee, something that Shawn pointed out himself in his review of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest:

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3rd~Levrone~ The fact that Kevin was even allowed to compete stunned the rest of the athletes. Kevin had not paid for his IFBB Pro card which was due in Dec 2000. Kevin had not even signed the Olympia Contract to compete due in July! The IFBB ruled as late as Sunday, October 20th, that Kevin would not be allowed to compete for these reasons. Apparently Kevin was to hold a 'NO Holds Barred' Press Conference at the Mr. O and suddenly Weider allowed Kevin entrance into the show which the IFBB said they would impose the largest fine ever in this sport of $25,000.00! Kevin would compete, slight off his best of last year. Legs were considerably down, abs still good, back not thick but detailed, calves non-existent. Posing routine entertaining and a crowd favorite.

Oddly enough, when I do a search for this, Shawn's review shows up on my website, but I don't see the link on the Getbig main page, just a link to this thread, where someone copies and pastes it just before the midway mark on page one of this thread:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=379272.0

EDIT: Here is the original link/primary source for the above review by Shawn - Shawn's analysis is really good, and I encourage any interested parties to read what he has to say about the 2001 Mr. Olympia:

http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2001/olympiareport04.htm

Either way, I may be joking about Shawn winning the coveted "O" in 2001, but the fact is, Kev probably shouldn't have been allowed to compete.  We all know that Jay tested positive for banned diuretics, and it was for the same diuretic - LASIX - that cost Nasser El Sonbaty his 3rd place finish at the 1996 Mr. Olympia contest where he received a standing ovation.

I admit, I am not the funniest guy, but my post was actually mostly factual - in a fair world, Shawn should have been 2nd at the 2001 Mr. Olympia because Kevin was late paying his IFBB pro card fee and signing the Mr. Olympia contract, and Jay failed the diuretics test.  Obviously, the bit about Ronnie being disqualified on a technicality is a little lame, but ultimately, it isn't a stretch to say that Shawn should have been 2nd.  And ultimately, it's not like Shawn never got 2nd before - memories of 1994 and 1996 come to mind.  So ultimately, Shawn's retirement contest should have been a 2nd place finish.  You could even argue for a W for that matter, with Ronnie out due to the posing trunks technicality, but that's stretching it a little.

On behalf of the Peanut Gallery, I accept this award.😜

Great, so it's settled.  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on October 14, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
Highly disagree. A prime Shawn is not in the same league as a prime Ronnie. This is not about who you would rather look. Its about who is better from a bodybuilding perspective. Ronnie just destroys Shawn.

Yes, from a pure competition bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie, pre gut, destroys just about anybody. But Shawn, from a purely aesthetics, balance and completeness perspective, destroys just about anybody.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 07:19:42 PM
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.

Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.

But, see, that's the thing. When Ronnie was in his prime, he had size, mass, and muscularity, plus the aesthetics, small waist, and proportions. A prime Ronnie had it ALL!! Later on in his career, he got way too big. But, as I stated, a prime Ronnie was almost perfection in every area, especially at the 1998 and 1999 Mr. Olympia.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 07:21:30 PM
Yes, from a pure competition bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie, pre gut, destroys just about anybody. But Shawn, from a purely aesthetics, balance and completeness perspective, destroys just about anybody.

I sort of agree, but as I stated above, a prime Ronnie even had damn good aesthetics, balance and proportion, especially for someone his size.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: che on October 14, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
a prime Ronnie was almost perfection in every area,

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 08:44:18 PM
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 ??? ??? ??? :D :D :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
Yes, from a pure competition bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie, pre gut, destroys just about anybody. But Shawn, from a purely aesthetics, balance and completeness perspective, destroys just about anybody.

this right here is your aesthetics winner brother


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 14, 2017, 11:15:48 PM
this right here is your aesthetics winner brother

dont get me wrong benfatto had an awesome physique,but his look back then was way too fag gy


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
dont get me wrong benfatto had an awesome physique,but his look back then was way too fag gy

who's better? Bob weatherhill  ;D



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 15, 2017, 12:55:55 PM
who's better? Bob weatherhill  ;D



actually I feel that the physique that bob turned pro with in the nineties had the potential to go to the top and/or was very marketable, he had shape as well as mass, not Bob Paris but alot of similarities. But by the mid nineties what the judges started rewarding was a very different look.

Proof of that is Shawn Ray nor Flex did not win an Olympia during that time  from the mass monsters despite being mass with class, better posers, more consistent in being in shape, no torn fucked up muscles.

By that time the freak era started and anyone coming up who had mass with class like Bob but like him not big names at that time they got very over looked. The thing is if guys with mass with class like labrada, shawn, benfatto had of turned pro in the mid nineties they would have been placed just like bob because the judging criteria changed and only those who were still at the top got compared. They would have got lost in the shuffle, whether they think their positive drive and determination was there or not, they would have got fucked as well.

Look at any of the olympia competitions from the past 2 decades and you will always find a couple of people out of the top 10 or 15 who should have been placed higher but never got fairly compared or were overlooked. Not saying it is necessarily always a conspiracy, but I think it is easier to get lost in the shuffle when there are mutiple people up there.

also remember that the only avenue of getting known up even till early to mid 2000's was magazines only. The internet and specifically the bodybuilding boards did not explode until around 2003-04, before that it was small in comparision even with pictures/videos etc because alot of people had slow ass dial up. also supplement contracts were in the hey day for everyone, not just those who worked for weider or md.

People since then have been able to come on the scene and the smart ones could market the hell out of themselves on the net but I think now with the whole instagram/twitter era it is becoming watered down

I think what I am trying to say DJ is, that Bob could very well have been alot more competitive in the pros had he marketed or had someone markketing himself better, along with better exposure and putting yourself out there. Back in the nineties most of the Canucks who did well were wither freaks, in california or were just plain better at marketing themselves and their physique

You can never tell, look at top Nabba guy Jeff King, guy had a Mr Olympia physique, but outside pretty much older hardcore fans he was unknown compared to haney, etc


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 16, 2017, 04:46:59 AM
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 16, 2017, 04:54:51 AM
Thonging generates friendships for life:

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Trev on October 16, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
Bob had one of the most pleasing physiques ever (no homo myself), but his quads, chest & arms could be better.

Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on October 16, 2017, 06:58:30 AM
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!
Did you own a pair of grass-stained shoes?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rambone on October 16, 2017, 09:21:20 AM
Did you own a pair of grass-stained shoes?

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 16, 2017, 09:36:04 AM
Sean
On message boards you are known as “history’s most boring bodybuilder”
Do you attribute this to not getting involved in unnecessary drama? Or the fact that when you were contest prepping you were very regimented and never partied?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 16, 2017, 09:57:55 AM
Sean
On message boards you are known as “history’s most boring bodybuilder”
Do you attribute this to not getting involved in unnecessary drama? Or the fact that when you were contest prepping you were very regimented and never partied?

Lee Haney never partied
He was the consummate family man...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 10:11:03 AM
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!

yep

bob got bigger late 90s early 2000's and lost his beauty  :'(

thickass waist ripped, just awful  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on October 16, 2017, 10:29:18 AM
yep

bob got bigger late 90s early 2000's and lost his beauty  :'(

thickass waist ripped, just awful  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
white guys only,,lose the hair lose the look,,rusty Jefferies stayed aesthetic bald,,rest get balder and bigger'lose lines'titus looked better with hair,this guy,joe deangelis.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: denarii on October 16, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
Little known fact, Shawn Ray was actually the rightful winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest!

4th place Shawn = Should have been 1st because...
3rd place Kevin Levrone was late paying the fee for his IFBB pro card.  This should have been an immediate disqualification.
2nd place Jay Cutler failed the diuretics test, but brought his lawyers in to state that the testing facility was not IOC-approved.
1st place Ronnie Coleman, ripped off his posing trunks to reveal a pair of USA flag posing trunks during his finals routine.  However, in the IFBB rule book at the time, posing trunks were required to be solely one colour.  ;D

Thus the real winner of the 2001 Mr. Olympia contest was Getbig's own SHAWN RAY!  8)

 ;D ;D ;D

Actually if Ronnie ripped his trunks off on stage then the real winner was the Mayor of Bodybuilding beating one out in the front row


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 16, 2017, 11:49:45 AM
Met Bob twice the late '80's and early '90's and he was a lot bigger than you would have thought. His legs were huge!

Bob was descent. But cmon! He was not overlly symetrical and his hardness was not up to par. As a person hes great though.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on October 16, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.

Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.

if that was how it was judged neither would be mr. olympia

Mr. Levrone or flex would've won, both are bigger and have aesthetically better looking bodies than shawn

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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 17, 2017, 01:08:05 AM
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Ronnie beats Shawn if your judging criteria is based on size, mass and muscularity.
From a bodybuilding perspective, a prime Shawn beats Ronnie if your judging criteria is based on aesthetics, small waist, taper, proportions and muscularity.

Based on todays official judging criteria, Ronnie is the better bodybuilder.
Based on the average man in the streets personal judging criteria, 99.999999999999999999999 99999% of men on earth would choose the physique of a prime Shawn over a prime Ronnie.

Sexual preferences are a very complex subject,, one cannot generalize.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Matt on October 19, 2017, 09:39:56 AM
Nice to see Shawn has moved away from MD to the Generation Iron Fitness Network empire!

Is the GIFN a Rothschild-based empire?  I have heard that only 3 or 5 or 7 fitness outlets are not Rothschild-owned?  Oh wait, never mind.  That meme was referring to central banks.

When myself and Gaereth [sp?] saw Keith "Only Me" Jones at the 2007 Arnold Classic Expo at Pete Grymkowski's booth...I believe "Muscle Mafia" clothing/apparel or something like that [which Grymkowski got in trouble for spamming during the press conference  ;D]...Only Me looked to be well over 600-lb.  :(  I believe there were comments on Getbig to the effect that he was "over 300" or "over 400", but he was almost certainly over 600.  I felt badly when Gaereth [whose real name may have been something like Grant Higginbotham - positive on the last name, but not sure on the first] and myself essentially stared and pointed at him.  :(  I imagine both Only Me and Shawn Ray had people staring at them due to their size...but for different reasons.  :(

Little did I realize at the time that within 3.5 years, Keith would be dead, most likely with his morbid obesity being a primary cause.  I suppose Keith spent the final years of his life being unable to train, and likely unable to do a lot of things.  Being over 300-lb must be debilitating.  I can't imagine being over 600-lb.

In any case, Shawn's thread about the Shawn Ray Classic reminded me of Keith.  I believe that Keith asked Shawn to guest-pose for him in 2002, basically out of the blue.  Since Shawn was virtually always in shape, I think it was somewhat reasonable to think Shawn would be in contest shape, but I really think things like that should be sorted out beforehand, as well as confirmed.  As it was, Shawn wasn't in horrible shape by any means, but was soft by his own standards, and Keith was upset about it.

Has that matter been discussed in this thread so far?  If so, can someone please let me know roughly where it was posted in here?  If not, I am going to do some searches for it now, to see if that matter was ever settled in the public eyes.  These stories are eye-opening to me for a variety of reason, and as often as possible, I like to get all sides of the story.  I believe that is the fair thing to do.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: darkeyes on October 19, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
Nice to see Shawn has moved away from MD to the Generation Iron Fitness Network empire!

Is the GIFN a Rothschild-based empire?  I have heard that only 3 or 5 or 7 fitness outlets are not Rothschild-owned?  Oh wait, never mind.  That meme was referring to central banks.

When myself and Gaereth [sp?] saw Keith "Only Me" Jones at the 2007 Arnold Classic Expo at Pete Grymkowski's booth...I believe "Muscle Mafia" clothing/apparel or something like that [which Grymkowski got in trouble for spamming during the press conference  ;D]...Only Me looked to be well over 600-lb.  :(  I believe there were comments on Getbig to the effect that he was "over 300" or "over 400", but he was almost certainly over 600.  I felt badly when Gaereth [whose real name may have been something like Grant Higginbotham - positive on the last name, but not sure on the first] and myself essentially stared and pointed at him.  :(  I imagine both Only Me and Shawn Ray had people staring at them due to their size...but for different reasons.  :(

Little did I realize at the time that within 3.5 years, Keith would be dead, most likely with his morbid obesity being a primary cause.  I suppose Keith spent the final years of his life being unable to train, and likely unable to do a lot of things.  Being over 300-lb must be debilitating.  I can't imagine being over 600-lb.

In any case, Shawn's thread about the Shawn Ray Classic reminded me of Keith.  I believe that Keith asked Shawn to guest-pose for him in 2002, basically out of the blue.  Since Shawn was virtually always in shape, I think it was somewhat reasonable to think Shawn would be in contest shape, but I really think things like that should be sorted out beforehand, as well as confirmed.  As it was, Shawn wasn't in horrible shape by any means, but was soft by his own standards, and Keith was upset about it.

Has that matter been discussed in this thread so far?  If so, can someone please let me know roughly where it was posted in here?  If not, I am going to do some searches for it now, to see if that matter was ever settled in the public eyes.  These stories are eye-opening to me for a variety of reason, and as often as possible, I like to get all sides of the story.  I believe that is the fair thing to do.
Ron Harris is a good guy.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 19, 2017, 07:03:01 PM
Nice to see Shawn has moved away from MD to the Generation Iron Fitness Network empire!

Is the GIFN a Rothschild-based empire?  I have heard that only 3 or 5 or 7 fitness outlets are not Rothschild-owned?  Oh wait, never mind.  That meme was referring to central banks.

When myself and Gaereth [sp?] saw Keith "Only Me" Jones at the 2007 Arnold Classic Expo at Pete Grymkowski's booth...I believe "Muscle Mafia" clothing/apparel or something like that [which Grymkowski got in trouble for spamming during the press conference  ;D]...Only Me looked to be well over 600-lb.  :(  I believe there were comments on Getbig to the effect that he was "over 300" or "over 400", but he was almost certainly over 600.  I felt badly when Gaereth [whose real name may have been something like Grant Higginbotham - positive on the last name, but not sure on the first] and myself essentially stared and pointed at him.  :(  I imagine both Only Me and Shawn Ray had people staring at them due to their size...but for different reasons.  :(

Little did I realize at the time that within 3.5 years, Keith would be dead, most likely with his morbid obesity being a primary cause.  I suppose Keith spent the final years of his life being unable to train, and likely unable to do a lot of things.  Being over 300-lb must be debilitating.  I can't imagine being over 600-lb.

In any case, Shawn's thread about the Shawn Ray Classic reminded me of Keith.  I believe that Keith asked Shawn to guest-pose for him in 2002, basically out of the blue.  Since Shawn was virtually always in shape, I think it was somewhat reasonable to think Shawn would be in contest shape, but I really think things like that should be sorted out beforehand, as well as confirmed.  As it was, Shawn wasn't in horrible shape by any means, but was soft by his own standards, and Keith was upset about it.

Has that matter been discussed in this thread so far?  If so, can someone please let me know roughly where it was posted in here?  If not, I am going to do some searches for it now, to see if that matter was ever settled in the public eyes.  These stories are eye-opening to me for a variety of reason, and as often as possible, I like to get all sides of the story.  I believe that is the fair thing to do.

I remember.
Keith wanted me to pose for Free as if I was there to ppse.
Not!
It was never discussed nor agreed but when all the other guys posed he assumed I would.
I told him I get Paid to Pose, he didn't want to pay and I didn't want to pose.
He talked shit after that until he died.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 19, 2017, 07:06:26 PM
I remember.
Keith wanted me to pose for Free as if I was there to ppse.
Not!
It was never discussed nor agreed but when all the other guys posed he assumed I would.
I told him I get Paid to Pose, he didn't want to pay and I didn't want to pose.
He talked shit after that until he died.

what was the name of that lady Sheriff from OC you dated again?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on October 19, 2017, 07:55:10 PM
what was the name of that lady Sheriff from OC you dated again?

Tasha?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 20, 2017, 01:46:00 AM
Were the Weider brothers, the harvey weinstein of bodybuilding?

Were the Weiders givers or takers?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Top Poodle on October 20, 2017, 01:49:59 AM
Sexual preferences are a very complex subject,, one cannot generalize.

not really

men like women

women like men

a very small minority of retards who have control of the media and have the proper backing to get elected and also are in the schools (which are glorious safe spaces with no interaction with the outside world where your ideas might be challenged) want you to believe otherwise

and 80% of beauty is objective, 20% is subjective, theyve done studies etc etc

basically everything we hear from the libtard leftists is against objectivity, reality, human nature, common sense, rationality, etc etc


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on October 20, 2017, 05:47:23 AM
this right here is your aesthetics winner brother

Can't disagree. I said just about everybody, not everybody. Benfatto and Paris are right at the top aesthetics wise.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 20, 2017, 06:29:50 AM
Since Shawn must have missed my previous questions, will try again with different ones :

Have you ever had any injuries over the course of your career?  Were they from training?

What is the biggest mistake you see pros making today?  Top amateurs?  The average bodybuilder?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on October 20, 2017, 06:59:41 AM
not really

men like women

women like men

a very small minority of retards who have control of the media and have the proper backing to get elected and also are in the schools (which are glorious safe spaces with no interaction with the outside world where your ideas might be challenged) want you to believe otherwise

and 80% of beauty is objective, 20% is subjective, theyve done studies etc etc

basically everything we hear from the libtard leftists is against objectivity, reality, human nature, common sense, rationality, etc etc

Well said.  I can easily state that Bob Paris was a handsome, well built man but in no way would I want to be homosexual. I think men and women are hard-wired to be heterosexual but somewhere along the way, some choose to do what they want to do.  And the current (since the 1960s) societal zeitgeist of if it feels good do it, makes it easier to tell nature to go fuck itself.


Back on topic.

I think Shawn Ray possessed one of the more aesthetic physiques of his time on the dais.  Like Labrada, he was probably denied a win or three due to the politics sexual deviancy of Schmoes.    Additionally the pose down is harder on shorter men as that is where a blob like Coleman or a chiseled blob like Yates (both were excessively overbuilt) is able to look more impressive just by being "bigger".    Put a lion alone on a stage and it looks commanding.  Stand an African Elephant (they were originally BLACK...FACT!) and the lion is overshadowed by the larger elephant.

After all, schmoes are size-queens.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: darkeyes on October 20, 2017, 07:29:38 AM
Well said.  I can easily state that Bob Paris was a handsome, well built man but in no way would I want to be homosexual. I think men and women are hard-wired to be heterosexual but somewhere along the way, some choose to do what they want to do.  And the current (since the 1960s) societal zeitgeist of if it feels good do it, makes it easier to tell nature to go fuck itself.


Back on topic.

I think Shawn Ray possessed one of the more aesthetic physiques of his time on the dais.  Like Labrada, he was probably denied a win or three due to the politics sexual deviancy of Schmoes.    Additionally the pose down is harder on shorter men as that is where a blob like Coleman or a chiseled blob like Yates (both were excessively overbuilt) is able to look more impressive just by being "bigger".    Put a lion alone on a stage and it looks commanding.  Stand an African Elephant (they were originally BLACK...FACT!) and the lion is overshadowed by the larger elephant.

After all, schmoes are size-queens.
Bob paris was a great bodybuilder. Homo or not a great physique.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 20, 2017, 07:33:43 AM
Since Shawn must have missed my previous questions, will try again with different ones :

Have you ever had any injuries over the course of your career?  Were they from training?

What is the biggest mistake you see pros making today?  Top amateurs?  The average bodybuilder?

Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.

The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 20, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
what was the name of that lady Sheriff from OC you dated again?

Debbie


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: darkeyes on October 20, 2017, 07:36:51 AM
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.

The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.
where was the pinched nerve? did it effect your biceps or triceps?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Parker on October 20, 2017, 07:50:53 AM
Shawn what do you think of Rasheed Oldacre? He looks like he has that Ronnie-sque type of muscle, but without the conditioning needed.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 20, 2017, 09:10:00 AM
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.

The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.

Does that pinched nerve still affect you today?  How did it occur?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 20, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
Next question :

From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute.  Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task?  Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing.  How you prep for it?  More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dj181 on October 20, 2017, 09:35:15 AM
Next question :

From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute.  Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task?  Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing.  How you prep for it?  More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?

id bet more tren less estrogenic compounds, but we all know he wont go there




Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 20, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
Next question :

From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute.  Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task?  Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing.  How you prep for it?  More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?
Drinking two big glasses of water with every meal, would do magic.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on October 24, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
Shawn,
How was Sasha (the Asian tranny man) in bed?
How the fuck did Nasser (gh15) know so much about your woman-man?
Why were afraid to go to Europe and compete against Doz, Kevin, Nasser, Ronnie at the grand Prix?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 24, 2017, 11:03:47 AM
Shawn what is your opinion on training in the morning in a fasted state? 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Nether Animal on October 24, 2017, 12:34:45 PM
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.

The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.

I remember you talking about this in your interview with john hansen. Thrn levrone got away with a lot later.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: buresu on October 24, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
trouble shawn..the ego king


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 24, 2017, 05:11:19 PM
trouble shawn..the ego king
haha Steve would have snapped Sean in 2 quite easily


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: old-school-lifter on October 24, 2017, 07:30:33 PM
Weinberger is a gutless bully

he likes getting sodomised in the ass by Bev wearing a strap on with Doz watching so the rumors go  8)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 25, 2017, 04:34:07 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=747897;image)

Wow! Sh#t got almost real.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 25, 2017, 06:16:55 AM
Shawn,
How was Sasha (the Asian tranny man) in bed?
How the fuck did Nasser (gh15) know so much about your woman-man?
Why were afraid to go to Europe and compete against Doz, Kevin, Nasser, Ronnie at the grand Prix?



Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 25, 2017, 06:36:15 AM
Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.

???

Hopefully  not, and if so... what kind of "accomplishment" is this for the idiots who caused it?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 25, 2017, 07:56:30 AM
Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.

(http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Bryan-Cranston-Crying.gif)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: MP on October 25, 2017, 07:56:49 AM
Cool thread. Ron, hope you get a few more pros on here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: buresu on October 25, 2017, 01:17:50 PM
Cool thread. Ron, hope you get a few more pros on here.

 ;D..... ::)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: macos on October 25, 2017, 01:19:55 PM
Yes, 1989 I had a Pinched nerve in my neck training for the Arnold Classic.
Wayne deMilia suspended me from competition for 1 year because I couldn't compete in that show.

The biggest mistake pros make today is not allowing themselves to learn their bodies Before they bring in a Guru/ Trainer.


X2


This is the truth


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 25, 2017, 04:34:30 PM
Sean
In that old video of u backing out of your garage in your red sports car-why did your brakes sound so bad? Why wouldn’t u get them fixed before filming?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 25, 2017, 04:57:27 PM
Sean
In that old video of u backing out of your garage in your red sports car-why did your brakes sound so bad? Why wouldn’t u get them fixed before filming?


Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on October 25, 2017, 06:10:48 PM

Shawn has been ran off the board and will no longer be posting here. Please stop asking him questions.

What a pussy.  No heart.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 06:45:05 AM
where was the pinched nerve? did it effect your biceps or triceps?

It was in the base of my neck on the lower right side. It affected all lifting especially when I strained.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 06:46:31 AM
Does that pinched nerve still affect you today?  How did it occur?


Of course not.
I was fine about 2 months later with treatment, massages, time off and muscle stimulation treatments


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 06:48:25 AM
Next question :

From the photos pics of your "fat" guest posing incident, you stated it was at the last minute.  Based on the photos, if you were approached to do a guest posing, how long would you need to get in a condition you felt was acceptable for the task?  Not contest ready, but good enough for guest posing.  How you prep for it?  More cardio or simply cutting the carbs?

Back then 4 weeks.
Lower carbs
More cardio
Two training sessions per day
Tanning
Posing


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 06:49:32 AM
Shawn what is your opinion on training in the morning in a fasted state? 

Loved it! My favorite when I was in prep mode!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 06:54:38 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=747897;image)

Wow! Sh#t got almost real.

These pics were taken immediately after I told Wayne DeMilia, "How come none of the other athletes can have a "second" backstage helping but Dorian is in a room getting pumped and oiled with Weinberger and Jim Manion is watching them?"

Steve came out pissed and came out to address helping everyone.
I said how if you're in a closed room with Mr Olympia are you going to help us oil up?
Lol
Good times.😂


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 26, 2017, 10:03:23 AM
It was in the base of my neck on the lower right side. It affected all lifting especially when I strained.

did it hinder your ability to "pinch a loaf"


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 26, 2017, 11:00:12 AM
Loved it! My favorite when I was in prep mode!

Can you give more details?  Last time you ate at night and when you trained the next day?  How long was your fasted state?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 26, 2017, 06:59:38 PM
To the Extreme is still one of the best bodybuilding training videos ever. Prior to that most of the training tapes were bodybuilders demonstrating exercises instead of actual training footage.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ChristopherA on October 26, 2017, 07:24:35 PM
Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 26, 2017, 07:25:38 PM
Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?

What if they are the same person!  :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ChristopherA on October 26, 2017, 07:28:26 PM
What if they are the same person!  :o
You just blew my mind braaah!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 26, 2017, 08:07:27 PM
What if they are the same person!  :o


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on October 26, 2017, 08:08:17 PM


I, smell, pussssssssssssssssssssy!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Skeletor on October 26, 2017, 08:25:10 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637068.0;attach=748081;image)

Already?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 27, 2017, 01:29:20 AM
Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?


You make a very good point.

Yes why are they not exchanging messages
Especially for GayHoe15 as shawn would be able
to back some of his competitive claims up.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 27, 2017, 01:33:48 AM




Not one fucking post from gh15 in a thread with a guy he supposedly went head to head with? C'mon gh15 come shoot the suit with Shawn. All your bs can be confirmed right here. What do you think of this clown Shawn?


I hope you are not off shawn - ChristopherA does make a very valid point.
Why are you not engaging GayHoe15 you could back his claims up or expose them.

Hope you find it within yourself to Answer.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Can you give more details?  Last time you ate at night and when you trained the next day?  How long was your fasted state?

Shawn I think you should answer this question (and this groupie's numerous other questions) when he reconciles his October racism with him following you around begging for advice.  I mean this is still October.

I'm already pretty racist anyway.  At least this month.  Just like every October.  When the blacks shuttle their kids - 10-15 to a car - into our community.  There will literally be a line of cars like a funeral procession waiting at the gate for it to open when someone like UPS or FedEx comes through.  Then they file in and disgorge their little turds in the area, while the "mama" sits behind the steering wheel of a 15 year old beater car ("mismatched tires and the whitewall's flaking.... " ~ mixalot reference) with her hair in curls, cigarette in one hand, cell phone in the other (using it like a damn walkie talkie - at the ear to listen then holds it front of her mouth while she speaks... back to ear.. .back to mouth)...  sitting there alternately yelling out the car window (as the little monkeys trample up our lawns because they never heard of using a damn sidewalk before)  "HEY! WHAT THEM GIVE YOU IN DAT HOUSE OVER THERE?  YOU BETTER GO BACK AND GET ME ONE"

I have taken stocking lots of fruits and peanut packs for these hordes.  Though I tend to give the whiniest little crybaby in the group something extra like a pack of Now And Laters or M&Ms.  Knowing damn well that when they get back in the car it is going to instigate a fight in the back seat between them all wanting it.  That won't end until "mama" (or "auntie") takes it away from them and eats it right there in front of the brood.  And then the whiny little bastard is going to cry and sniffle and whine all the way home over them being mean to him. 

Don't worry, by my birthday in November my grass will have recovered, I will have replaced all the cracked and broken sprinkler heads in the yard that got stomped on, or dug up ("hey look whut I found whut dis is?") and my postal guy will have wiped off all the grimey hand prints from the mailbox.  Life will be back to normal.

Until next October.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 27, 2017, 08:47:48 PM
I, smell, pussssssssssssssssssssy!

Well, Shawn was signed on today, so he can't be too far away.  :D :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: darkeyes on October 28, 2017, 01:29:44 AM

You make a very good point.

Yes why are they not exchanging messages
Especially for GayHoe15 as shawn would be able
to back some of his competitive claims up.

why are you stirring the pot? maybe you want Shawn to do your dirty work?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2017, 03:06:22 PM
why are you stirring the pot? maybe you want Shawn to do your dirty work?


Why not..
Why does it bother you so much.

I can do my own 'Dirty Work' Thanks.

Why does it bother you if Shaun could/can add any creditability to him.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mobil on October 28, 2017, 06:18:59 PM
how bad is the magazine industry dieing? do you think they can recover?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 28, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
how bad is the magazine industry dieing? do you think they can recover?

No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mobil on October 28, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?

Flex 10 years ago


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on October 28, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
available including newspapers/books. the internet kills the paper editions


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mobil on October 28, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
do you think sponsor ship deals with bodybuilders has gone away? i dont really see top pros with supplements like i used too... see Heath with Optimum Nutrition thats about it. Do you see it much more difficult for a pro bber to make money anymore compared to the 80s-2000s?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BB on October 28, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
I doubt the small to medium sized niche content will survive in real print form for much longer. And even then, the bodybuilding mags face a special challenge. With the bigger magazines and some smaller ones that skew toward the collectible hobbies, repackaging of old content has become a big thing. They reissue some stuff as ebooks, they offer pay access to their archives, etc..... Also a lot of money is still made from folks that just never bothered to stop their subscriptions, places like doctor's offices, etc.....

You just won't see that with bodybuilding magazines. It's a short attention span hobby meaning that a lot of the people involved are only in it for a few years, and many just aren't interested in the history of it, at least to the point of paying for it. So I doubt that you'll anyone offer archives of past issues, etc..... Also since it is a young men's hobby, piracy is pretty strong. The kids just aren't paying for them much in any form anymore.

It's been a while since I looked, but even the big ones were losing subscribers at a rate of #5000 - 10000 a year the past decade, and that just continues to grow.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mobil on October 29, 2017, 12:12:15 AM
I doubt the small to medium sized niche content will survive in real print form for much longer. And even then, the bodybuilding mags face a special challenge. With the bigger magazines and some smaller ones that skew toward the collectible hobbies, repackaging of old content has become a big thing. They reissue some stuff as ebooks, they offer pay access to their archives, etc..... Also a lot of money is still made from folks that just never bothered to stop their subscriptions, places like doctor's offices, etc.....

You just won't see that with bodybuilding magazines. It's a short attention span hobby meaning that a lot of the people involved are only in it for a few years, and many just aren't interested in the history of it, at least to the point of paying for it. So I doubt that you'll anyone offer archives of past issues, etc..... Also since it is a young men's hobby, piracy is pretty strong. The kids just aren't paying for them much in any form anymore.

It's been a while since I looked, but even the big ones were losing subscribers at a rate of #5000 - 10000 a year the past decade, and that just continues to grow.

ya its kinda depressing. I remember at age 15 going to the grocery store in the magazine isle and read FLEX and the other mag Robert Kennedys mag(i forgot the name). I would see people walk up to pick out some magazine and read. i would always hide the bodybuilder mags  really fast and grab something else because i didn't want them to think i was gay. i laugh now about it. i used to buy a FLEX and put all my groceries on top of it to hide it till the lady scanned it last.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on October 29, 2017, 01:59:04 AM
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?

Flex 1995.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: darkeyes on October 29, 2017, 02:05:18 AM
ya its kinda depressing. I remember at age 15 going to the grocery store in the magazine isle and read FLEX and the other mag Robert Kennedys mag(i forgot the name). I would see people walk up to pick out some magazine and read. i would always hide the bodybuilder mags  really fast and grab something else because i didn't want them to think i was gay. i laugh now about it. i used to buy a FLEX and put all my groceries on top of it to hide it till the lady scanned it last.
Musclemag from Bob Kennedy i liked. was a good read.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Lord Chronos on October 29, 2017, 02:35:21 AM


Hi Shawn,

Appreciate the insight your providing on this thread.

When you were competing and particularly when you were dieting for a show, were there any foods that you avoided, ie foods that some people suggested caused belly fat or water retention, dairy products, milk, wheat, bread etc.

Likewise when dieting, what were your go-to foods, did you stick to the same type of food day in day out or mix things up much?

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on October 29, 2017, 11:50:51 AM
Shawn, what do you think of the gh15 character that posts here on getbig claiming to have been a pro that competes against you?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 29, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
Shawn, what do you think of the gh15 character that posts here on getbig claiming to have been a pro that competes against you?

x2

And if he ignores this we should fuck him off

ps, no edits please.... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 29, 2017, 03:02:07 PM
Sean
You were known as histories most boring bodybuilder
When u eventually kick the bucket-do u feel you’ll be remembered for anything? Will u have a legacy? Or will you pass and the world won’t skip a beat?

My other question-do u have any organ damage from the stupid bodybuilding drugs u took back when u were a bodybuilding drug addict?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 29, 2017, 03:03:04 PM
Sean
You were known as histories most boring bodybuilder
When u eventually kick the bucket-do u feel you’ll be remembered for anything? Will u have a legacy? Or will you pass and the world won’t skip a beat?

My other question-do u have any organ damage from the stupid bodybuilding drugs u took back when u were a drug addict?
well, I thought my question was going to be the one Shawn ignored.... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on October 29, 2017, 03:05:40 PM
Shawn, what do you think of the gh15 character that posts here on getbig claiming to have been a pro that competes against you?

X3 great question.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on October 29, 2017, 03:11:07 PM
X3 great question.
Shawn wont go within a million miles of answering that....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 29, 2017, 04:21:05 PM
No idea?
When's the last time you paid for a magazine and which one?

Exactly. It's all online now. The only reason anyone buys a magazine is their battery is dead and they have a long flight ahead of them :)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 29, 2017, 04:24:49 PM
yeah I miss the days of waiting in the store line with the front cover of the magazine facing my stomach so nobody would see the Greased up Muscle guy with Daisy Dukes and sunglasses training with another greased up freaked wearing daisy dukes and sunglasses

then of course the checkout girl would have to pass the barcode over which was on the front cover, after which she would turn it over and now half my town would think I was a fucking homo

Thank god Muscle Mag started putting hot sluts on the front



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 29, 2017, 04:25:35 PM
yeah I miss the days of waiting in the store line with the front cover of the magazine facing my stomach so nobody would see the Greased up Muscle guy with Daisy Dukes and sunglasses training with another greased up freaked wearing daisy dukes and sunglasses

then of course the checkout girl would have to pass the barcode over which was on the front cover, after which she would turn it over and now half my town would think I was a fucking homo

Thank god Muscle Mag started putting hot sluts on the front



haha Yep


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on October 29, 2017, 04:30:52 PM
yeah I miss the days of waiting in the store line with the front cover of the magazine facing my stomach so nobody would see the Greased up Muscle guy with Daisy Dukes and sunglasses training with another greased up freaked wearing daisy dukes and sunglasses

then of course the checkout girl would have to pass the barcode over which was on the front cover, after which she would turn it over and now half my town would think I was a fucking homo

Thank god Muscle Mag started putting hot sluts on the front



Oh yes. I remember early 2000s I would always buy MD. Felt so embarrassing making the walk of shame to the cashier, felt as if I was buying gay porn.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 29, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
Oh yes. I remember early 2000s I would always buy MD. Felt so embarrassing making the walk of shame to the cashier, felt as if I was buying gay porn.
haha Yep


(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/degrassi/images/0/0c/Bennett_gay_porn.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140913161559)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 08:03:02 PM
Exactly. It's all online now. The only reason anyone buys a magazine is their battery is dead and they have a long flight ahead of them :)

Even then its Esquire or GQ.. Not a bbing mag with contest coverage from 4 months ago that u already saw on YouTube (if u even give a fuck anymore. Onlybcontests I care about anymore are bikini or figure or mpd shows a client has in a few months), or the same rehashed arm workout from 3yrs ago and 7yrs ago and 14yrs ago etc...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 29, 2017, 08:10:20 PM
Exactly. It's all online now. The only reason anyone buys a magazine is their battery is dead and they have a long flight ahead of them :)

I always felt a little weird when others in the store saw me buy a bodybuilding magazine.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 08:12:51 PM
I always felt a little weird when others in the store saw me buy a bodybuilding magazine.

They were thibking "who's this for?".


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 29, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
They were thibking "who's this for?".

Do I really need to get GH15 in here to own you? He continues to demolish you in every thread.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 08:25:46 PM
Do I really need to get GH15 in here to own you? He continues to demolish you in every thread.

Quite the contrary


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 29, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Quite the contrary

Does GH15 have to come in here and call you out on all your liars? He has continuously owned you in every thread and have proven you wrong on ALL accounts. You better hope he doesn't come in this thread and prove you wrong.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 08:28:37 PM
Does GH15 have to come in here and call you out on all your liars? He has continuously owned you in every thread and have proven you wrong on ALL accounts. You better hope he doesn't come in this thread and prove you wrong.

Again total opposite. He has yet to address anything he's been accused of and uses deflection in every response. And then today he comes in here with an obscure charity India that helps Street dogs and cats begging for help. Lol


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
& yes, please bring him in here. Please see above.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 29, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
Again total opposite. He has yet to address anything he's been accused of and uses deflection in every response. And then today he comes in here with an obscure charity India that helps Street dogs and cats begging for help. Lol

He completely demolishes all of your arguments. He calls out all of your lies. Yet, you keep going back for more. I don't get it. You're his whipping dog.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on October 31, 2017, 08:04:15 PM
*no homo here, but you two gentlemen are probably my favorite getbiggers and it pains me to see
the animus between you both.  Can't you let by-gones be by-gones?

:)



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 31, 2017, 08:21:24 PM
*no homo here, but you two gentlemen are probably my favorite getbiggers and it pains me to see
the animus between you both.  Can't you let by-gones be by-gones?

:)



Are you referring to Goodrum and Basile?  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on October 31, 2017, 08:28:26 PM
Are you referring to Goodrum and Basile?  ;D ;D

LOFL.  No, you and ESF.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: SF1900 on October 31, 2017, 08:49:32 PM
LOFL.  No, you and ESF.

Maybe Ill take a trip to California, sit down with ESFITNESS, have a latte, and talk out our difficulties!  :D :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Mothballs on October 31, 2017, 09:46:18 PM
That moment when you realize Shawn’s been gone for ten years and still has nothing interesting to say...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: BSN on November 01, 2017, 07:01:05 AM
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Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 02, 2017, 01:12:11 AM
seems hes disappeared when pressed to talk to GH15.....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Taffin on November 05, 2017, 03:33:21 AM
seems hes disappeared when pressed to talk to GH15.....

Maybe - or - because his show (in Hawaii) was at the weekend he might have failed to prioritise GetBig over that...?



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 05, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Maybe - or - because his show (in Hawaii) was at the weekend he might have failed to prioritise GetBig over that...?



HOW FUCKING DARE HE......


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: calfzilla on November 05, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
He just stopped by briefly to pimp his Hawaii show. Guy must be desperate to make a few bucks. He won't be back.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: chaos on November 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
seems hes disappeared when pressed to talk to GH15.....
:)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on November 05, 2017, 07:11:09 PM
Do Shawn Ray now be in de dawg house or de out house?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 05, 2017, 11:22:48 PM
Shawn did u say on the radio show that you sent Labrada into retirement??...ROFL.

Doz and rookie sensation Flex Wheeler probably sent Labrada into retirement or that fact that Labrada realized way before anyone else that it was gonna become a mass monster contest from that year going forward and thought to himself "Fuck this Monsters Inc. show"

Shawn you did have a better package and should have been ahead of Labrada before 93 but that's the judges fault, so agreed.

1991 or 1992 would have been Shawn's best years to win it all after getting 3rd in 1990, he let it slip away and out of reach forever going forward.

1994 he got screwed for just being 1/2 foot shorter and lb. for lb. 50lb lighter.

After 1993 yates was just too big and a two time reigning champ, Ray's 1996 package looked small next to the "guy from England" Arnold quote.

Shawn you should have retired in 1994 or stuck around until 2006....take your pick...2001 Cutler sent you into retirement...not Ronnie. FACT!!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 06, 2017, 12:48:37 AM
He just stopped by briefly to pimp his Hawaii show. Guy must be desperate to make a few bucks. He won't be back.


Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 04:33:04 AM

Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo
what are your thoughts on gh15?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2017, 04:35:07 AM

Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo

what are your thoughts on gh15?


Yes Shawn what do you know & think of him.
This should make for interesting reading....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on November 06, 2017, 05:31:07 AM

Yes Shawn what do you know & think of him.
This should make for interesting reading....

The issue doesn't endorse or promote him, so he won't adress it.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 06, 2017, 07:52:15 AM

Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo

You're quite a baller, but the venue looks great.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 06, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
The issue doesn't endorse or promote him, so he won't adress it.


This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shizzo on November 06, 2017, 08:47:05 AM

This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?
Don't worry, Shawn. You are a luxury yacht, in a sea filled with losers.

Don't trust anyone here.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Henda on November 06, 2017, 09:33:20 AM
Don't worry, Shawn. You are a luxury yacht, in a sea filled with losers.

Don't trust anyone here.

Haha most pathetic pitiful arse licking reply ever on getbig

I bet you were eyeing up your gloryhole wig hanging on the corner of your dressing table mirror as you typed this



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 10:05:07 AM

This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?

so a guy who claims he knows you and competed with you as a top 5 Olympia competitor spouts shit on the net and you have zero comment?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2017, 10:14:31 AM

This. I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about..?

Shawn are you saying you dont know who gh15 is ?
or you've never heard of him ?

He constantly makes reference to you & competing against you
Also claims he know exactly what every IFBB  Pro used & uses

Makes some strong claims he does.

Personally & a lot of other posters on here think he's full of crap
& is a known scam artist.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
Shawn are you saying you dont know who gh15 is ?
or you've never heard of him ?

He constantly makes reference to you & competing against you
Also claims he know exactly what every IFBB  Pro used & uses

Makes some strong claims he does.

Personally & a lot of other posters on here think he's full of crap
& is a known scam artist.


I tend to think Shawn is so self absorbed he doesnt even read any other threads on here apart from his own, Go4it and Harley Brite were exactly the same.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2017, 10:45:52 AM
I tend to think Shawn is so self absorbed he doesnt even read any other threads on here apart from his own, Go4it and Harley Brite were exactly the same.

 ::) oh That's kinda of sad if he's like that
maybe he'll surprises us all with his reply.......


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 06, 2017, 01:04:40 PM
::) oh That's kinda of sad if he's like that
maybe he'll surprises us all with his reply.......

I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 06, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.

he loves you....


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 06, 2017, 02:07:02 PM
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.


Shawn - do you think you would be a good contestant on one of those shows? 


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2017, 02:20:45 PM

I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your you're wrong.


Returning the favor.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2017, 02:29:02 PM
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.



Thanks for the above.
This gh15 very likely is not going to like what you've said
He tends not to like the truth.

He calls you chiwi says that was your nickname.!!

Would you post on the gh15 thread just to shut him the fuck up
He'd go crackers ranting & raving - Surely you'd enjoy that,
& Do us all a favour.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: dearth on November 06, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.



Shawn,

can you insult Dallas McCarver again, for old times sake?
It will make you feel better since he broke your record.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: stuntmovie on November 06, 2017, 03:22:19 PM
Shawn, How did the Hawaii show go?

Is the MODERN HOTEL a part of the ILIKAI with the boat piers directly  behind it?

Dud you use Hawaii NPC judges and who won each event?

How many total contestants?

How many fans in the seats?

Did you run into Ernie Santiago while you were there?

Any info you could provide about the event would be appreciated.

Thanks Shawn .... Stunt


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2017, 04:54:33 PM

Thanks for the above.
This gh15 very likely is not going to like what you've said
He tends not to like the truth.

He calls you chiwi says that was your nickname.!!

Would you post on the gh15 thread just to shut him the fuck up
He'd go crackers ranting & raving - Surely you'd enjoy that,
& Do us all a favour.


you idiot racist muslim i don't see a problem with wht chiwi said there.. i am annonimous and this is how i remain,, period end of case

i gave here names along the years,, I'm one of those names,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: che on November 06, 2017, 07:14:58 PM
 GH15 is Shawn Ray


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2017, 07:49:50 PM
you idiot racist muslim i don't see a problem with wht chiwi said there.. i am annonimous and this is how i remain,, period end of case

i gave here names along the years,, I'm one of those names,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah




I dont know or follow whomever this GH15 guy is, why would I ?
I come here to Answer Questions, Share information and Correct you guys when your wrong.
I don't come here to waste time on trying to go back n forth with Anonymous Posters who post shit, talk shit and don't know shit.
Why would I?
I'd rather watch Survivor or Make and Afraid on TV at least I can see who these strangers are and what if anything I'd do if I were with them or portraying them.
Some peeps here are foolishly believing they know what they are talking bout or have a clue on the industry yet never attend shows, know the athletes or even compete for that matter.
Deuces.



Why don't you address Shawn chiwi Himself
You Pathetic Excuse of a person.

Shawn has never heard of you - god of bullshit   ::)
So much for your being anything other than a Wife Beater

Owned & exposed by Shawn chiwi Ray A Known & Real IFBB Pro.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 06, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
the brownie from united kingdom is offended and hurt he doesn't know what hit him lol

he is pretty much a stalker level right now lol I have them all over but this brownie is hurt big time and lie consistently with no shame lol

LOCAL! you kjnwo what a local is? it is the worst thing a bodybuild can hear.. when he is a local.. lol you! are! a! local! lol

gh15 approved



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: sceagacros on November 06, 2017, 11:56:50 PM
Of course Shawn never heard of some wanna be Rich Piana.
GH15 is strictly a GetBig character - not even a blip on the outside world's radar, including the bodybuilding industry.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2017, 12:34:23 AM
^lol I have millions search enegines results just if you type my name in.. I make more than all ifbb profesionals of my era,, and! in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life

what else can one ask for?

I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..

learn something when someone is not important you cease talking about them period,, hush.. you just cease it but you cant because I have a penthouse built from the rent I take inside of your head..

I love it how few drug dealers come on here and try to play with me.. they don't understand how strong I am now days,, I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017

your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy

gh15 approved
lion of Judah



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: falco on November 07, 2017, 01:01:35 AM
^lol I have millions search enegines results just if you type my name in.. I make more than all ifbb profesionals of my era,, and! in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life

what else can one ask for?

I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..

learn something when someone is not important you cease talking about them period,, hush.. you just cease it but you cant because I have a penthouse built from the rent I take inside of your head..

I love it how few drug dealers come on here and try to play with me.. they don't understand how strong I am now days,, I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017

your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy

gh15 approved
lion of Judah



This thread is about Sean Ray only. Dont try to make it about yourself.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 07, 2017, 02:12:47 AM
the brownie from united kingdom is offended and hurt he doesn't know what hit him lol

he is pretty much a stalker level right now lol I have them all over but this brownie is hurt big time and lie consistently with no shame lol

LOCAL! you kjnwo what a local is? it is the worst thing a bodybuild can hear.. when he is a local.. lol you! are! a! local! lol

gh15 approved




Hey Wife Beater

You Missed answering this post Some one wants to talk to you
yes my gawd imterrified
im so scared you should phone me
306-807-2672

remember fukface, youre the anonymous bitch whos scared of me. Lol all you can do is hide and type empty threats. What a sad loser you are

Now as You wont dare engage Shawn in a sensible conversation
Lets Keep off his Thread As Falco Suggested

Shawn has Never heard of you. End of.
Your Not Even Local level - Likely Never been inside a Gym.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2017, 05:25:41 AM
^if i say you are local i know what im talking about,,

you dont make money from bodybuild and never was able to make money from bodybuild,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Trev on November 07, 2017, 07:24:22 AM
^lol I have millions search enegines results just if you type my name in.. I make more than all ifbb profesionals of my era,, and! in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life

what else can one ask for?

I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..

learn something when someone is not important you cease talking about them period,, hush.. you just cease it but you cant because I have a penthouse built from the rent I take inside of your head..

I love it how few drug dealers come on here and try to play with me.. they don't understand how strong I am now days,, I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017

your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy

gh15 approved
lion of Judah



Always was and continues to be a gimmick account set up by a nobody


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 07, 2017, 08:39:29 AM
^if i say you are local i know what im talking about,,

you dont make money from bodybuild and never was able to make money from bodybuild,,

gh15 approved


If I say you are Wife beater & scam artist I know what im talking about,,
you no make money from bodybuild ever And only Beat wife & Scam Newbie
you Informer to police You is scared scared person

Scamming bible
blue Top
saizen
kigtropin
Don trump
Vlad Putin
Chairman mao
wife beatings

Approved.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: akkari on November 07, 2017, 05:13:38 PM
Shawn does it make you sad when your thread falls to the bottom?
Theres a TON of Shawn Ray's in California, it took me forever to find you and all your info.

Shall I call you on your mobile phone? the AT and T number?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Always was and continues to be a gimmick account set up by a nobody

only won few pro shows but what is it for the average gtbiger eh?

especialy when they are filts and criminals penetrated this site from professional scam muscle..

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 07, 2017, 05:20:26 PM
If I say you are Wife beater & scam artist I know what im talking about,,
you no make money from bodybuild ever And only Beat wife & Scam Newbie
you Informer to police You is scared scared person

Scamming bible
blue Top
saizen
kigtropin
Don trump
Vlad Putin
Chairman mao
wife beatings

Approved.



the worst thing is when a wanna be try to sound like he is in the know lol

you are a wanna be local.. the worst thing is to try to excel in something like bodybuild into the pro and not be able to get there..

it just a fact my friend.. no mater how you try to insult gh15 you cant because the achievements are there.. both on ifbb stages and financially,, both ways!

keep on making up balonie for attention and dream on.. local,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 07, 2017, 05:30:22 PM
Shawn, How did the Hawaii show go?

Is the MODERN HOTEL a part of the ILIKAI with the boat piers directly  behind it?

Dud you use Hawaii NPC judges and who won each event?

How many total contestants?

How many fans in the seats?

Did you run into Ernie Santiago while you were there?

Any info you could provide about the event would be appreciated.

Thanks Shawn .... Stunt

The show was the BIGGEST SHOW IN the last 20 years in Hawaii!
253 and 380 with CrossOvers!!!!!
I used Hawaii based Judges and next year we move into the Hawaii Convention Center!

Congratulations to our 2017 NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic Overall Champion Winners:
Open Bikini: Carissa Bluth
Men's Physique: Justin Tanaka
Men's Classic Physique: Clint Riggin
Women's Physique: Diana Bumanglag
Bodybuilding: Ramil Valbuena

https://youtu.be/5rLRZCQpQjA

https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 07, 2017, 05:39:21 PM
Overall Winners🎉🤙🏽🎉


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rascal full on November 07, 2017, 06:06:09 PM
Wow, the Bikini Over all winner.....what a stunner!!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rambone on November 08, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
While driving today, I saw a 2-door Mercedes with a tag that said “IFBB”. Sure enough it was Darrem Charles. Excellent physique aside, what’s your opinion of him? I’ve trained at the same gym as him in the past, and I believe he was married at the time, yet I always noticed him getting mighty comfortable with the women clientele if you know what I mean. He’s a really quiet guy and also seemed like his son was pretty distant from him. One of his side pieces at that time now trains at my current gym and wouldn’t even look in the direction of Darrem when he randomly dropped in for a workout. He’s still living the selfish bodybuilding dream I guess.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 08, 2017, 02:27:50 PM
Why do most shows have distracting desktop-like backgrounds? They should be black and nothing else


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: doggler on November 08, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
 Shawn , you are  always the shortest in a photo.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 08, 2017, 02:57:30 PM
Shawn , you are  always the shortest in a photo.
(https://media.gq.com/photos/57d9ab2e9c577e122a48a699/master/pass/verne-troyer-yeezys.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 09, 2017, 02:01:10 AM
Shawn,
You said that you personally never used Hgh or the various Insulin's...

with that being said, if you were to use Insulin how would you personally take it?

What makes sense to you on how to use Insulin?

I'm 100% sure you have read all about Insulin during your Heydays, but choose not to use it since you get fat easily and it probably didn't benefit you in anyway, no disrespect intended.

Do you agree with either Milos Mindless Sacev or Dave Palumboism or neither one?

When are you going on RX muscle?

Ill ask Dorian the Hgh question so please don't comment on the master hormone.

I personally don't believe a blood sugar hormone does shit for quality mass or conditioning if know your body well and it responds to the 1-2-3 BB Basics, Milos and Dave are both Snake oil con men and that's a fact.

Dave's physique was a train wreck drug abuse of garbage and Milos was never more than 235lb in condition for a taller BB so how did Insulin make him these so called significant gains he claims...Insulin didn't... or he would have been 275lbs conditioned...All Lies!

Last question...Mike Ashley Natural??? LOL...sure he was...just like Skip LaCour was a Natty.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 09, 2017, 02:07:58 AM
Shawn were you ever groped or Sexually assaulted by Wayne Demilia?

He looks like a sexual predator....Be honest he grabbed your lil package, pinched your butt cheek, nipples, backstage didn't he?

Please Lets talk about and expose the Kevin Spacey's of the IFBB, I'm a counselor and can help with your inner feelings.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 09, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
I tend to think Shawn is so self absorbed he doesnt even read any other threads on here apart from his own, Go4it and Harley Brite were exactly the same.

How does it feel to be ignored by Shawn in a 40 page thread?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 09, 2017, 02:32:12 AM
Shawn can you please please stop wearing fucking sunglasses inside?

Lee Priest thinks about Dog shit more than Shawn Ray, Does that mean that you think about Vanilla ice cream more than Lee Priest?

You and Kevin need to make up and be friends, you should sincerely apologize and help him with his 2018 prep, would ya?

Can you take Wheeler with you, so all three of you all can finally hold and share the Sandow together in 2018?

Do you agree that Phil's Hammy's have always been so Sick, his Chest not so Sick?

I would really like for you to be likeable by other Pros again, Please apologize to each one you offended, you have a long list to write, agreed?

How much is a gallon of Milk in Hawaii?

What ever happened to your dog from the magazines?, if he/she passed I'm very sorry to hear that, I love all pet animals.

Thanks for answering these questions Shawn.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 09, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
How does it feel to be ignored by Shawn in a 40 page thread?

Shawn always avoids the tough questions, like if he's really on the stand.
Pleading the 5th. I plead the 5ifth judge.
If he thinks they are trash questions, now he knows how we feel about him wearing sunglasses indoors all the time.
David Spade syndrome...sensitive eyes all of a sudden but not a sensitive tongue, will it ever happen?
Now wearing shades on the Olympia stage would have been KOOL!
under the real bright lights where were the sunglasses?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Incubi on November 09, 2017, 04:12:59 AM
THE Shawn Ray ROAST:
Shawn is like a 7th grader who can dish it out but can't take it.

A Phd in BB..No such thing Dr. Ray!

ROFLMAO...Shawn has the equivalent of a doctorate in BB.

Oh yeah player hater degree, my bad. your are absolutely right Chihuahua you do have a Phd with other BB's.

I get to forever ROAST SR for never winning the Olympia...Fucking First place looser, get out there and train harder, stop giving us excuses!!

This over cooked SR ROAST sux.. give Shawn extra white cream gravy on his well done roast dinner plate.
Seat him between Lee Priest and Wayne Demelia for tonight's BB cult gathering and give Lee and Wayne Med rare roast slices.
Only Shawn gets the Well, since he's so Well these days hanging out in Hawaii drinking alcohol.

Shawn's head is so bald that every time I look at it, I feel like I need to shave my right nut.

Shawns's Hawaii shirt is so cheap that he picked it up at the Hawaii thrift store on a 99 cent blue hangar special.

I asked Phil Heath to join in the SR Roast and he replied that he doesn't associate with Losers, sorry Shawn I tried to get you a "Gift".

After contacting SR's former Sponsorships for the Roast, all I got was, who the hell is Shawn Ray?

Steve Blechman called to confirm then cancelled at the last moment due to still owing Shawn a lot of money.

Big Louie Confirmed, you still owe him $20 Shawn...WTF Shawn you got Louie's autograph photo in 1992 and still haven't paid him.

Planet Fitness is all in and wants you to promote their gyms on Generation iron 3, Free Pizza Fridays.

Speaking of Generation Iron, Vlad was both Sad and Glad to hear about the roast so he's undecided at the moment.

The Raymond brothers are here Tito and Jose, they have a bone to pick with you Shawn and watch your back for Jose's wifey!

Kevin Levrone brought an extra orange so there's no need to share fruit tonight.

The Grapfruit is here Kai Greene, special invite!

Some one who couldn't make it tonight but sends his condolences, Flex Wheeler was attacked by ninjas earlier today buying Equipoise.

Wayne Demelia brought all of the secret X-files official judges score sheets from the Olympias going back to 1988.

Doz is here, whatever else he thinks of you Shawn, he always respects you as a smaller and weaker competitor. Enjoy your Silver and Bronze.

Nice to see you here Mike Ashley, Shawn has your 1990 Arnold Trophy ready for you to take home.

Chris Cormier will be here shortly Shawn, he's over getting you both Carls Jr for a late night snack.

1995-Nasser El Sonbaty, 1996- Nasser El Sonbaty, 1997 Nasser El Sonbaty, 1998-Nasser El Sonbaty,  Nasser??? RIP-uncrowned champ.

Lee Labrada isn't here due to his son Hunter, Lee retired from attending all the freak shows since 1993.

Craig Titus is here via skype Clark County Prison, Shawn bro, Lets train together when I get out of this shithole.

King Kamali...Is that King Kamali ? you two fucking loud trash mouths got a lot of catching up to do, Best Buds!

Ronnie Coleman 8x Mr O, hobble on over here, Shawn is all carbed up and has you on size now Ronnie.

to be continued...









Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on November 09, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
Shawn, please ignore the poster above and just post more pictures of the bikini overall winner.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2017, 05:07:40 AM
shawn will most likely skip this page...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on November 09, 2017, 05:29:53 AM
shawn will most likely skip this page...

Yes.  "Incubi" seems to be very vested in all this.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 09, 2017, 06:19:43 AM
Shawn,
You said that you personally never used Hgh or the various Insulin's...

with that being said, if you were to use Insulin how would you personally take it?

What makes sense to you on how to use Insulin?

I'm 100% sure you have read all about Insulin during your Heydays, but choose not to use it since you get fat easily and it probably didn't benefit you in anyway, no disrespect intended.

Do you agree with either Milos Mindless Sacev or Dave Palumboism or neither one?

When are you going on RX muscle?

Ill ask Dorian the Hgh question so please don't comment on the master hormone.

I personally don't believe a blood sugar hormone does shit for quality mass or conditioning if know your body well and it responds to the 1-2-3 BB Basics, Milos and Dave are both Snake oil con men and that's a fact.

Dave's physique was a train wreck drug abuse of garbage and Milos was never more than 235lb in condition for a taller BB so how did Insulin make him these so called significant gains he claims...Insulin didn't... or he would have been 275lbs conditioned...All Lies!

Last question...Mike Ashley Natural??? LOL...sure he was...just like Skip LaCour was a Natty.


That question has already been answered (never)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 09, 2017, 06:35:44 AM
Shawn always avoids the tough questions, like if he's really on the stand.
Pleading the 5th. I plead the 5ifth judge.
If he thinks they are trash questions, now he knows how we feel about him wearing sunglasses indoors all the time.
David Spade syndrome...sensitive eyes all of a sudden but not a sensitive tongue, will it ever happen?
Now wearing shades on the Olympia stage would have been KOOL!
under the real bright lights where were the sunglasses?

Hello Be There,

How does it feel to be ignored under two handles by Shawn in a 40+ page thread?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 09, 2017, 06:44:08 AM
Shawn, please ignore the poster above and just post more pictures of the bikini overall winner.

Her name is Carissa Bluth



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on November 09, 2017, 07:24:13 AM
Her name is Carissa Bluth



Yup.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 09, 2017, 07:50:36 AM
How does it feel to be ignored by Shawn in a 40 page thread?
Perfect...I know hes bothered by me and the questions I ask.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: doggler on November 09, 2017, 12:09:57 PM
 Shawn your thoughts on Vince Goodrum ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2017, 01:21:49 PM
Shawn your thoughts on Vince Goodrum ?

Maybe Shawn can convince goodrum to compete again in one of his shows ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: doggler on November 09, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
Maybe Shawn can convince goodrum to compete again in one of his shows ?

Bay likey  :P


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Shawn I think you should answer this question (and this groupie's numerous other questions) when he reconciles his October racism with him following you around begging for advice.  I mean this is still October.


Awww poor baby.  Nice knowing I occupy a place in the narrow head of yours.  

I was unaware I was begging for advice.  If asking Shawn for his insight on fellow competitors and his own career is "begging" then ok... if that helps you sleep better at night.  Retard.

Do you have any Halloween candy left?  Or just going to blame being chubby on the Islander's genetics for being "thick skinned"?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 09, 2017, 01:42:09 PM
Maybe Shawn can convince goodrum to compete again in one of his shows ?

They have to introduce a new class, but under which name?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2017, 07:02:20 PM
Hello Be There,

How does it feel to be ignored under two handles by Shawn in a 40+ page thread?


lol

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 09, 2017, 08:52:14 PM
GENERATION IRON EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW:

2016 Classic Physique Olympia Winner, Danny Hester performs with his wife Monique at the NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic in Honolulu, Hawaii.

https://youtu.be/6Zka4OBvucs
@Generation Iron
@MoniquesVoice


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 09, 2017, 11:05:51 PM
2017 Classic Physique Mr Olympia Winner, Breon Ansley in Hawaii performing at the NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic Nov 4

https://youtu.be/HVuujJspZuo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: WalterWhite on November 09, 2017, 11:17:03 PM
2017 Classic Physique Mr Olympia Winner, Breon Ansley in Hawaii performing at the NPC Shawn Ray Hawaiian Classic Nov 4

https://youtu.be/HVuujJspZuo

Shawn I have followed Breon for some time and think has a great throwback physique. Could you tell me what his competitive weight is vs his off season?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuujJspZuo


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2017, 12:01:06 AM

lol

gh15 approved

LoL
At you Dipstick

Shawn Doesn't Know You Hasn't Heard of you & Thinks you're a Gimmick

Why don't you Interact with Shawn  -- Tell Him who you are - who you're connected too
And your an expert on all things steroids.

In fact tell him what exactly he was using.

Leave the wife beating & Scamming & snitching parts out.

All's it may help if you can type properly & fairly coherently


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 10, 2017, 02:32:18 AM
Perfect...I know hes bothered by me and the questions I ask.

Does it make you feel useless and small deep down?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-XfaNDWAAAlNWA.jpg)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 10, 2017, 02:37:40 AM
Does it make you feel useless and small deep down?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-XfaNDWAAAlNWA.jpg)

Bearing in mind I am older than Shawn and not fat and I have a full head of hair, no, I feel great...


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 10, 2017, 03:05:50 AM
Bearing in mind I am older than Shawn and not fat and I have a full head of hair, no, I feel great...

(http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2939a221786968eb0d4e83d629675aca.jpeg)(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/16230666_1754694754556521_2726152215357030400_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ0MDA5Njg4NjkzNzM3NTE1OA%3D%3D.2)


(https://media.giphy.com/media/13x1bIbTXgIpWg/giphy.gif)



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 10, 2017, 03:10:43 AM
LoL
At you Dipstick

Shawn Doesn't Know You Hasn't Heard of you & Thinks you're a Gimmick

Why don't you Interact with Shawn  -- Tell Him who you are - who you're connected too
And your an expert on all things steroids.

In fact tell him what exactly he was using.

Leave the wife beating & Scamming & snitching parts out.

All's it may help if you can type properly & fairly coherently

only after you stop lieing every 2 words.. and face me in pm or on my site and reveal who stand behind your lovely account then some of your questions wil be answerd.. until then you are an aged no one..

a
 
l o c a l


and sean.. knows who I am and competed against me,, I don't get into other threads unless I'm stimulated and thee is no stimulation here I told you I made getbig.. you cant get me to act the way you want.. I'm dicrating the beat always,, its always like this my friend

you need to learn me to know how I am.. to read tru the years.. im very alpha it is vry hard to get me to do what someone wants unless I feel compassion to some cause,,

try diferent way or adopt what I wrote.. and my English is not first language,, if I write well its usualy due to autospeling like I have right now.. you see where I wrote English the e gets capital.. its because the dumb computer I type on makes it that way,,

in any case local.. try diferent way or you can always reveal yourself on gh15.. it will be your easiest way to get some answers,,


gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 10, 2017, 04:54:25 AM
(http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2939a221786968eb0d4e83d629675aca.jpeg)(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/16230666_1754694754556521_2726152215357030400_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ0MDA5Njg4NjkzNzM3NTE1OA%3D%3D.2)


(https://media.giphy.com/media/13x1bIbTXgIpWg/giphy.gif)



Wow, I didnt realise Shawn still looked like that, in clothes he looks like an oversized Vern Troyer.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2017, 05:21:51 AM
only after you stop lieing every 2 words.. and face me in pm or on my site and reveal who stand behind your lovely account then some of your questions wil be answerd.. until then you are an aged no one..

a
 
l o c a l


and sean.. knows who I am and competed against me,, I don't get into other threads unless I'm stimulated and thee is no stimulation here I told you I made getbig.. you cant get me to act the way you want.. I'm dicrating the beat always,, its always like this my friend

you need to learn me to know how I am.. to read tru the years.. im very alpha it is vry hard to get me to do what someone wants unless I feel compassion to some cause,,

try diferent way or adopt what I wrote.. and my English is not first language,, if I write well its usualy due to autospeling like I have right now.. you see where I wrote English the e gets capital.. its because the dumb computer I type on makes it that way,,

in any case local.. try diferent way or you can always reveal yourself on gh15.. it will be your easiest way to get some answers,,


gh15 approved


Hey Boy - You Pathetic Piece of Crap

You're a Fucking Joke - Face You Via PM or on Your Site.... Ha Ha Ha  ::)
Yellow Belly

I'll Go Better Than That Retard Meet me Face to Face

You're unable to Meet me or Anyone- Your to Scared !!

As for your weak answers - we don't really care
I have Zero interest in your answers as they are utter Drivel
Insert them up your arse & regurgitate them out through your mouth
& repeat.

Shawn has said you're a Gimmick & a very lame one at that.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Rimstinger on November 10, 2017, 05:46:54 AM
Wow, I didnt realise Shawn still looked like that, in clothes he looks like an oversized Vern Troyer.

Does your wife know she married a 50 year old online troll?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Simple Simon on November 10, 2017, 09:02:13 AM
Does your wife know she married a 50 year old online troll?
a 52 year old online troll...

I occasionally tell her things that happen on here, she sits behind me watching the TV, she just shakes her head disgusted.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 09:20:56 AM
Awww poor baby.  Nice knowing I occupy a place in the narrow head of yours.  

I was unaware I was begging for advice.  If asking Shawn for his insight on fellow competitors and his own career is "begging" then ok... if that helps you sleep better at night.  Retard.

Do you have any Halloween candy left?  Or just going to blame being chubby on the Islander's genetics for being "thick skinned"?

Hey the little racist groupie is back.  No more questions for Hall of Fame Bodybuilder Shawn Ray?

Maybe you should ask him if he steals barbells?

 
Barbells are attached to benches? Pathetic..

Keeps the blacks from stealing them I suppose


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Taffin on November 10, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
^ in 2016 November 8th I became invisible in real life

Huh?  This means....?  ???


I pee on you secrtatos.. pee on you in beautiful ark..

Ohh, so you are related to President Trump then.... cool  8)



I m stronger than ever.. stronger than 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 and soon to be stronger than 2017

your hope is to drag me into chiwis thread to create drama.. I don't havbe time for dramas.. I have 3 fucking sites to be in.. its not easy

But you do have time to type out all those years in full!  LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Meta-physical on November 10, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
Dear Shane,

What's the name of the guy you're standing next to here? He looks fantastic!


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Hey the little racist groupie is back.  No more questions for Hall of Fame Bodybuilder Shawn Ray?

Maybe you should ask him if he steals barbells?

 

Begging.... LOL.

What other quotes of mine do you have stored on your hard drive?  Please share with us.  Hopefully some more recent ones.

Would you like me to ask Shawn for some weight loss tips?  I won't tell him they are for you.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Begging.... LOL.

What other quotes of mine do you have stored on your hard drive?  Please share with us.  Hopefully some more recent ones.

Would you like me to ask Shawn for some weight loss tips?  I won't tell him they are for him.

No, little racist groupie, there is nothing on my hard drive.  Just about 20 seconds using the search function.  Like this one:

Blacks vs gays?  Let's see which loud mouth group cries "foul" the most often.  Maybe Al Sharpton and Elton John can be team captains.

Are you going to ask Shawn if he is a loud mouth?  

I recommend you quit now.  I'm sure I can find more you little racist turd.   ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2017, 02:14:11 PM
No, little racist groupie, there is nothing on my hard drive.  Just about 20 seconds using the search function.  Like this one:
Are you going to ask Shawn if he is a loud mouth? 

I recommend you quit now.  I'm sure I can find more you little racist turd.   ;D


Poor baby.... I'm so far in your head.  Perhaps you can find more recent ones.  There should be plenty.

Share with us some more.  I don't think those were my best ones. 

I'm going to ask Shawn for the best solution to man boobs.  That should help you out some with your insecurities.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Poor baby.... I'm so far in your head.  Perhaps you can find more recent ones.  There should be plenty.

Share with us some more.  I don't think those were my best ones. 

I'm going to ask Shawn for the best solution to man boobs.  That should help you out some with your insecurities.



Back for more little racist groupie?  I knew you were too stupid to know when to quit.  You want more?  Ok.  This took me 15 seconds.   ;D

NAIROBI: Mannequins were stripped clean, jewellery cases smashed, racks of expensive suits carted off, dozens of cash registers cracked open and at least one member of the Kenyan security services arrested, caught with a bloody wallet.

The looting of the Westgate mall, the scene of a siege in which scores of people were killed last month, appeared to have the scope and organisation of a large-scale military operation, and many Kenyans are asking if that is what it was.

Four-day siege or four-day shopping spree?
From the first hours after Islamist militants burst into the mall on September 21, executing men, women and children, until a week later when shopkeepers were let back in to sweep up the broken glass, very few people were allowed inside the mall except the Kenyan security forces, mainly the army.


More and more Kenyans believe those soldiers methodically cleaned out the mall, and that the barrages of gunfire ringing out for days were being directed not at the last of the militants but at safes and padlocks to blast them open. Some business leaders even question whether the Kenyan army deliberately prolonged the crisis by saying shooters were still in the building when they were actually dead, to give themselves extra time to steal.

Advertisement Witnesses said that the most they saw militants loot was a couple cans of soda, and shopkeepers cited no instances of panicked shoppers helping themselves to merchandise as they ran for their lives, leading to the widespread conclusion that the security forces must have been involved.

Kenyans are accustomed to corruption - their country is consistently rated as one of the most corrupt in the world - but the evidence of looting amid a national tragedy has been too much for many to take.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/kenyan-mall-looting-blamed-on-soldiers-20131004-2uymp.html#ixzz2glOTPKqn

What do you expect from blacks in black areas?

If Shawn decides to answer your numerous questions, at least he knows he is responding to a racist groupie.  lol   ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2017, 02:26:57 PM
I did ask for more.  More recent ones that is.  My better work started after 2015.  Can you post some of those?  I'd appreciate it.

You sure are working hard for the Shawn Ray Fan Club award.   Now I see where you little "groupie" projection comes from.  Brown nosing it huh?  Hee Hee, I said "brown" nose.  Pun intended. 

BTW have you tried Preparation H for those titties?  Heard it shrinks them.  Only temporary though.



Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
I did ask for more.  More recent ones that is.  My better work started after 2015.  Can you post some of those?  I'd appreciate it.

You sure are working hard for the Shawn Ray Fan Club award.   Now I see where you little "groupie" projection comes from.  Brown nosing it huh?  Hee Hee, I said "brown" nose.  Pun intended. 

BTW have you tried Preparation H for those titties?  Heard it shrinks them.  Only temporary though.


And the racist groupie is back, asking for more.  Ok.  lol   ;D

Blacks being lazy and not wanting to work is because Obama hates them?  I thought he loved them and was all about giving them free stuff so they wouldn't have to work.

Might want to work a little bit of consistency in your bullshit posts. 

Maybe the racist groupie can ask Shawn if he is lazy?  lol


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
Has Shawn responded to you yet?  You are working pathetically hard to get his attention.  I would hate for you to put all this work in with your projections and he didn't at least acknowledge your desperate efforts.  "Groupie". 





Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Has Shawn responded to you yet?  You are working pathetically hard to get his attention.  I would hate for you to put all this work in with your projections and he didn't at least acknowledge your desperate efforts.  "Groupie". 


The little racist groupie cannot help himself.  Maybe he should ask Shawn if he has a male fantasy?

Resort to your Chris Lund photo collection again.

Poor baby.  Bad enough you only have three brain cells and one of them devoted to baby jesus.  We see the other two are obsessed with shorts and male nudity.

Hard to believe you are black.  Most blacks keep their little male fantasies to themselves on the down low.

Ok.  My work here is done.  Have fun little racist groupie.  ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
If Shawn doesn't respond to this thread until Monday is that going to ruin your whole weekend?

The only "work" we have seen is your pathetic attempt at getting attention from Shawn.  "Groupie".


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 10, 2017, 11:21:44 PM

Hey Boy - You Pathetic Piece of Crap

You're a Fucking Joke - Face You Via PM or on Your Site.... Ha Ha Ha  ::)
Yellow Belly

I'll Go Better Than That Retard Meet me Face to Face

You're unable to Meet me or Anyone- Your to Scared !!

As for your weak answers - we don't really care
I have Zero interest in your answers as they are utter Drivel
Insert them up your arse & regurgitate them out through your mouth
& repeat.

Shawn has said you're a Gimmick & a very lame one at that.

first it is you're you are not your,, sad tht you need to be corrected since you truly don't know the diference bwteen the 2 like im sure you don't know the diferentce between then and than,,

second,, i am older than you and a ifbb pro something you could not achieve.. shredded wheat lol

thirdly pm me on the gh15 site and you wil get some of your questions answered,, you are a lieing filt.. a scammer.. you sell rubbish and crap.. you were kicked out for scamming people who did not know better,,

you are a...........

local! wanna! be!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
first it is you're you are not your,, sad tht you need to be corrected since you truly don't know the diference bwteen the 2 like im sure you don't know the diferentce between then and than,,

second,, i am older than you and a ifbb pro something you could not achieve.. shredded wheat lol

thirdly pm me on the gh15 site and you wil get some of your questions answered,, you are a lieing filt.. a scammer.. you sell rubbish and crap.. you were kicked out for scamming people who did not know better,,

you are a...........

local! wanna! be!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Hey Boy.

The only stalker is You.
How many Times have you been called out
And all you can do or say is PM ME
What kind of a Pussy are You

Enough with your incoherent Kiddie Writing

Grow Some Balls You Sniveling Wife Beater

Your not even local level - Very Likely Never Set Foot in A Gym

Go Scam so more fools on your Site
Or Better Scam Donald.

Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved

HTH.
 ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 10, 2017, 11:36:55 PM
^all you need is a little pm.. very easy to do,, vry simple to do,,

you are the definition of a liar! the straight out definition of a liar from the things you sell that you buy from china.. to how you tried to fool us on gh15.. to all the rest of your balonie storys and sub average physiqe

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2017, 01:46:32 AM
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
All you need to do is Man Up

Don't be a Pussy all your Life

Here's an idea for You Why Dont You PM Me
And Explain Is Very Easy to do.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 11, 2017, 02:59:39 AM
^you are right now bordering a sad joke,, a local! sad joke lol

even with your broken third world English from the blocks you can come up with a way to not disturb chiwis thread nor my thread,, take it into pms,, right now i consider you a local the thing is that i dont even consider you a competitor.. i consider you a local dealer.. like professional scam muscle type local,,

you cant just disturb threads with your idiotic remarks,, there are individuals here who teach.. while you sit and play with your ballz,,

go look for fatmc.. ask him how he is doing i promise you he has news for you.. big promise,,

local lol

lieing! local,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2017, 08:32:28 AM
^you are right now bordering a sad joke,, a local! sad joke lol

even with your broken third world English from the blocks you can come up with a way to not disturb chiwis thread nor my thread,, take it into pms,, right now i consider you a local the thing is that i dont even consider you a competitor.. i consider you a local dealer.. like professional scam muscle type local,,

you cant just disturb threads with your idiotic remarks,, there are individuals here who teach.. while you sit and play with your ballz,,

go look for fatmc.. ask him how he is doing i promise you he has news for you.. big promise,,

local lol

lieing! local,,

gh15 approved
Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved





^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
All you need to do is Man Up

Don't be a Pussy all your Life

Here's an idea for You Why Don't You PM Me
And Explain Is Very Easy to do.



^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

And you knock about with Donald  ::)

Yet You have time & effort to be on Forums
Replying Someone Who You say is a Nobody just Like Yourself

Pot calling Kettle  ::)

Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved

HTH


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on November 11, 2017, 08:59:00 AM




^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

And you knock about with Donald  ::)

Yet You have time & effort to be on Forums
Replying Someone Who You say is a Nobody just Like Yourself

Pot calling Kettle  ::)

Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved

HTH

I agree.  As would Wiggs would put it if he had the brains, gh15 is the pot calling the kettle, hebrew.
"GayHoe15"... ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2017, 09:07:38 AM
I agree.  As would Wiggs would put it if he had the brains, gh15 is the pot calling the kettle, hebrew.
"GayHoe15"... ;D


Go carefully He's likely to Call you names in his oh so Intimidating Broken Pigeon English
Insult you & Threaten to expose you  ::)

Also will say you were banned from his site  ::)

And PM him & he will get you back on there  ::)

He will Get his best friend Donald To set the CIA on You  ::)

He is a very well know Wife beater & Scammer
He doesn't take lightly to disrespect.

Please Be warned
 ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on November 11, 2017, 09:15:43 AM

Go carefully He's likely to Call you names in his oh so Intimidating Broken Pigeon English
Insult you & Threaten to expose you  ::)

Also will say you were banned from his site  ::)

And PM him & he will get you back on there  ::)

He will Get his best friend Donald To set the CIA on You  ::)

He is a very well know Wife beater & Scammer
He doesn't take lightly to disrespect.

Please Be warned
 ;)

 ;D

I have heard in hushed tones and airy whispers the kind of claims that would freeze a normal man's sphincter... that gh15 is the Master of the DarkWeb®

I just spoke with Mother Theresa via my Ouibee™™ Board (the original Ouija Board was BLACK!  FACK!)  and while she can neither confirm nor deny these fears as well founded, she advised that I light two candles at the Our Lady of Perpetual Pinning shrine for our mutual protection.   Consider it done, my friend.

 :D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: NotMrAverage on November 11, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
Is Shawn Ray a total retard after all?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2017, 02:11:12 PM
;D

I have heard in hushed tones and airy whispers the kind of claims that would freeze a normal man's sphincter... that gh15 is the Master of the DarkWeb®

I just spoke with Mother Theresa via my Ouibee™™ Board (the original Ouija Board was BLACK!  FACK!)  and while she can neither confirm nor deny these fears as well founded, she advised that I light two candles at the Our Lady of Perpetual Pinning shrine for our mutual protection.   Consider it done, my friend.

 :D



Phew- Thanks
Close call as Not wanting Trump & CIA on me back.

 ;)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: gh15 on November 11, 2017, 11:33:25 PM
you ruinning chiwis thread.. bunch of idiots once again demonstrate the reason why we limited the time we give to gtbig..

you need to understand we don't hve a lot of time,, when I come here and play with you I do it in order to boost gtbig.. I don't do it for myself,, its about time you get it,,

tht wanna be local delusionalti lol single handedly ruin sean rays tread,, ban him the fuck off this tread,, he also ruining my own thread with nonsense lies and juvinal balonie that no one take seriously beside him..

there is a place and time for fun.. do it in yoru own threads

if delusionati wants he can always pm me on my site or even on here,, always!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 12, 2017, 01:48:45 AM
Is Shawn Ray a total retard after all?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: illuminati on November 12, 2017, 02:13:02 AM
you ruinning chiwis thread.. bunch of idiots once again demonstrate the reason why we limited the time we give to gtbig..

you need to understand we don't hve a lot of time,, when I come here and play with you I do it in order to boost gtbig.. I don't do it for myself,, its about time you get it,,

tht wanna be local delusionalti lol single handedly ruin sean rays tread,, ban him the fuck off this tread,, he also ruining my own thread with nonsense lies and juvinal balonie that no one take seriously beside him..

there is a place and time for fun.. do it in yoru own threads

if delusionati wants he can always pm me on my site or even on here,, always!

gh15 approved
Bible of Lies
GayHoe15
Man of No Balls
Wife Beater Approved



It is You who wasting time & ruining threads
With your semi literate Writing
and in ability to answer any questions with straight & honest answers
That's why your are Shown up to be a retard
Making Grandiose claims with zero proof

You cant even send a pm.

You have been told countless times by numerous posters
your a GobShite Liar & We have No interest in your pathetic site
so shut the fuck up about it.
Your on Getbig so stop mentioning it.

No wonder Shawn doesn't know you or want to
He's got more sense than knowing you.

IFBB Pro  ::)
of course you are Boy.


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: seCrawler on November 12, 2017, 03:41:45 AM

Boom🎉🤙🏽🎉
https://youtu.be/XL7_1jR6Mpo

At least your sponsors won't go bankrupt from this show and location.  You must have been out of your mind to put a show in Colorado, all dust, dirty skin, salty roads, shitty snow storms and black ice, and ugly people.  And that's the best things.  


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: The Scott on November 12, 2017, 11:17:14 AM

Phew- Thanks
Close call as Not wanting Trump & CIA on me back.

 ;)

 ;D


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Shawn Ray on November 12, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
https://youtu.be/tLiGXu45PlY


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: doggler on November 12, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
  Shawn , is your hood pass revoked ?


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: Spike on November 19, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BbqNBJVFLXJ/


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: seCrawler on November 23, 2017, 06:02:00 AM
Nice interview with one of Shawn's past babes.

https://es.xhamster.com/videos/sasha-bts-interview-6889086 (https://es.xhamster.com/videos/sasha-bts-interview-6889086)


Title: Re: Shawn Ray - Is in The House!!!!
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 23, 2017, 06:29:52 AM
I used to watch a shawn ray video for motivation when he was training for the olympia

and he said " this is how you know i am getting in shape, you see those cheekbones  ;D"