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Holy shit!!!! Breaking news: White cop charged with murder for shooting 50 year old black man in the back.
Officer said he feared for his life.
This happened on Saturday :o
Stopped for having a break light out.
Live on CNN right now.
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A police officer in North Charleston, South Carolina, is being charged with murder after a bystander's video appears to show him firing at a fleeing suspect eight times or more, reports the Post and Courier. The video, which has not been made public, appears to contradict officer Michael Slager's version of events in the incident on Saturday that left 50-year-old Walter Scott dead. Initially, Slager's attorney released a statement saying that Scott grabbed control of the officer's Taser during a struggle and that Slager fired because he feared for his life. The attorney says he is no longer representing the officer.
"When you're wrong, you're wrong," North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey said today in announcing the murder charges. "When you make a bad decision, don't care if you're behind the shield or a citizen on the street, you have to live with that decision." The shooting took place after Slager stopped Scott about 9:30am for a broken tail light, reports WICV. Scott was wanted on a Family Court warrant, but the specifics of those charges aren't clear. He had been arrested previously on contempt charges for failing to pay child support. The 33-year-old officer is white, and Scott is black.
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WTH? And it looked like he cuffed dude after he shot him....and was yelling to have him put his hands behind his back...was dude dead at the time? No foot chase, just pull out the gun and start shooting? What is the full story?
Damn, just damn.
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Holy shit!!!! Breaking news: White cop charged with murder for shooting 50 year old black man in the back.
Officer said he feared for his life.
This happened on Saturday :o
Stopped for having a break light out.
Live on CNN right now.
Wow wtf? What is goin on with cops...
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Notice all these videos, of cops shooting criminals, never show what the perp did before the cop shot him.
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happens all the time
only in this case, it was all caught on camera finally
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WTH? And it looked like he cuffed dude after he shot him....and was yelling to have him put his hands behind his back...was dude dead at the time?
Don't know if he was dead. This looks fucking terrible though. How many times do you have to shoot someone who is clearly running away from you?
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Typical
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The officer claimed the the suspect went for his taser. It looks like it might be the black object that drops to the floor right at the beginning of the video.
Does that still give the officer the right to shoot a guy running away from him, 8 times?
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The officer claimed tht the suspect went for his taser. It looks like it might be the black object that drops to the floor right at the beginning of the video.
Does that still give the officer the right to shoot a guy running away from him, 8 times?
Of course not.
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Of course not.
The cop could argue that if he got the taser, then he could have tasered the cop, then shot him with his gun.
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The cop could argue that if he got the taser, then he could have tasered the cop, then shot him with his gun.
He could but it won't work. That video is really, really bad.
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doesn't look like a Gentle Giant situation at all, homie was running away then he handcuffed him after shooting?
messed up
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Not surprised
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He was 50 years old. An aspiring rapper. He planned to study medicine, and graduate, then join the Astronaut corp, after he straightened his life out first.
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Do you guys think that the cop would have reacted in the same fashion, if it were a white man?
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pigs always kill. thats what pigs do. nothing to see here.
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never show what the perp did before the cop shot him.
He ran.
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The main stream media's job is to keep people divided and inflamed in any and every way possible.
They are constantly dividing and conquering the people of world using race, sex, religion, politics and social class.
I'm not saying this cop was justified doing this (most are not), but the dumb-dumbs on here eat this shit up every single time.
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He ran.
No fast enough. Real smart move on the perp's part.
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I'm sorry, after looking at the video closer, the cop had 1-2 clear seconds to think about/see him running away before he fired.
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He was 50 years old. An aspiring rapper. He planned to study medicine, and graduate, then join the Astronaut corp, after he straightened his life out first.
You forgot showing a pic with his Mommy when he was 8-10 years old.
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Holy shit!!!! Breaking news: White cop charged with murder for shooting 50 year old black man in the back.
Officer said he feared for his life.
This happened on Saturday :o
Stopped for having a break light out.
Live on CNN right now.
What the fuck is going on with cops these days
That is some fucked up shit. Hopefully he gets some BBC in jail where he belongs
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The main stream media's job is to keep people divided and inflamed in any and every way possible.
They are constantly dividing and conquering the people of world using race, sex, religion politics and social class.
I'm not saying this cop was justified doing this (most are not), but the dumb-dumbs on here eat this shit up every single time.
I agree , crime is crime no matter who commits it.
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No justice. No peace.....of peace.
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That cop screwed up :o :(.
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LOL! just watched the video- murdering pig is even seen planning evidence on the dead guy. piggie walks over and tosses a gun next to the dead guy.
all pro pig lovers will say, "we didn't see what happened before the pig murdered the guy." LOL ;D ;D
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Thank you for your service, officer. That guy driving with a brake light out was really compromising the safety of the citizens you swore to protect.
It's just a shame you won't be able to attend college this upcoming fall due to that pesky murder charge....and civil suit.....you will be busy with. Oh, well.....there's always Penitentiary correspondence school.....
Again, thanks for spotlighting police activity while sacrificing your job, pension, and freedom.
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LOL! just watched the video- murdering pig is even seen planning evidence on the dead guy. piggie walks over and tosses a gun next to the dead guy.
all pro pig lovers will say, "we didn't see what happened before the pig murdered the guy." LOL ;D ;D
Where did you see that? It's not on the video posted here.
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Cop should get life. He probably will in this case. Totally fucked up, whether you like blacks or not.
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on CNN they are saying the Cop Took out the tazer shot him with it , then the cop tossed it for the GUN
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Where did you see that? It's not on the video posted here.
New York Times pig clearly tosses a gun next to the dead guy the video is crystal clear
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
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Also they are reporting the Cop wrote in the report that he took the tazer from him
the cop then picks something up (believed to be the tazer) and places it next the mans body
lol planting evidence while being recorded, what a dumb fuck
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Notice all these videos, of cops shooting criminals, never show what the perp did before the cop shot him.
Cops have gradually become above the law, and after a while of acting with impunity it bleeds into the culture. The all know what to say and do to get away with Murder, and they KNOW thy will get away with it, so their thuggish ways will continue to escalate until entire communities begin to protest regularly and hold them accountable. What is it Frederick Douglass said? “Power concedes nothing without a struggle.”
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at 1;39 in the video piggie is seen dropping a gun next to the dead guy LOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
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I remember a time when police would actually RUN after a fleeing suspect. Police Force or lazy, unfit pigs.
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Cop should get life. He probably will in this case. Totally fucked up, whether you like blacks or not.
not going to happen biggie will walk with back pay and big $$ from pig lovers
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Electric chair.
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Longer version
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
They said that Scott was wanted on a family court warrant. He probably tried to flee the scene when he knew the cop would find out.
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
if that is the case, whats the need to plant evidence ???
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
Who cares what happened before , did you even watch the video ?
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
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Who cares what happened before , did you even watch the video ?
I watched the video. If this was an extended chase. The perp trying to grab the cops tazer, and who knows what happened before that, adrenaline is pumping. Cop is in defense mode, if the perp runs, had a concealed weapon, he could turn and fire, so the cop fired first. Can't say as I blame him. As I pointed out, this whole situation was caused by the perp's stupidity, and the world is better off without him around any more stinking it up. Good riddance.
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I watched the video. If this was an extended chase. The perp trying to grab the cops tazer, and who knows what happened before that, adrenaline is pumping. Cop is in defense mode, if the perp runs, had a concealed weapon, he could turn and fire, so the cop fired first. Can't say as I blame him. As I pointed out, this whole situation was caused by the perp's stupidity, and the world is better off without him around any more stinking it up. Good riddance.
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if that is the case, whats the need to plant evidence ???
He didn't plant any evidence. Where does it show him planting evidence? He put cuffs on the still alive, at that point, perp, who he still considered dangerous, if left uncuffed.
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He didn't plant any evidence. Where does it show him planting evidence? He put cuffs on the still alive, at that point, perp, who he still considered dangerous, if left uncuffed.
at 1;39 in the video piggie is seen dropping a gun next to the dead guy LOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
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Simple equation:
[(Porky Wal*Mart Employee x No Girlfriend)+(Faux Left Wing Trolling To Annoy White Guys)]÷Norwood 7 Hair Loss= Shizzo
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The officer claimed the the suspect went for his taser. It looks like it might be the black object that drops to the floor right at the beginning of the video.
Does that still give the officer the right to shoot a guy running away from him, 8 times?
Absolutely not....if the guy is unarmed and fleeing, you can't shoot him in the back. He wasn't even running fast so I don't see why he needed to shoot a 50 year old man
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This all came about because of a traffic stop, for a broken tail light? So how does that escalate into this situation, unless the perp did something really stupid to make it happen. How is it when a dumb as a box of rocks black, does something really stupid, and gets dead, it's the fault of everyone else?
You driving around with a broken tail light, that's your fault. Say sorry officer, I didn't know, take the ticket, and say it won't happen again sir. Drive home alive, and pay the ticket later? Why is it that blacks have to act like fucking animals in any, and every, situation, putting their lives, and the lives of others, in danger?
Look at the video. Where's the perp's car. Where's the police car? Obviously the perp, at least ran. Did he attack the cop first? Where's the video of what happened at the beginning of this incident?
The black dude should not have ran from the cop. Why would he? Maybe he had a warrant? Who knows?
But the cop had no right to use deadly force. He will lose his court case. Jail time for sure.
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It's a bad shoot, on a relatively podunk charge. If the shooting occurs while wrestling for the taser? Ok, I can see it. If he catches up, and gives the guy a little nightstick action because he's flighty? Ok, I'm fine with that. But, you can't just back shoot a guy that hasn't injured you, that isn't a danger to society at large, etc.... No matter how you slice it, this cop screwed up.
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All we ever hear in these cases is how some petrified lethally armed policeman was terrified for his life. It makes no sense, it makes more sense for civilians to be terrified for their lives any time they deal with a police officer.
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The black dude should not have ran from the cop. Why would he? Maybe he had a warrant? Who knows?
But the cop had no right to use deadly force. He will lose his court case. Jail time for sure.
Maybe....a lot of the footage has been cut and it looks like the officer was wrestling with the guy and he grabbed hold of his Taser. Murder is way too high of a charge and I don't think a jury will go for it when the evidence is in. Who know
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The black dude should not have ran from the cop. Why would he? Maybe he had a warrant? Who knows?
But the cop had no right to use deadly force. He will lose his court case. Jail time for sure.
Victim Blaming is when a group of people place the victim under a spotlight, where the following pattern emerges:
1. The Spotlight: The focus of discussion is on the victim, not the perpetrator. This is true literally in terms of the number of words devoted to each, and also in terms of where the writer is focusing their research/investigation.
2. The Burden of Change: The responsibility of prevention/solution is put on the victim, not the perpetrator. This is usually implicit rather than explicit, and is often intermixed with point number 1.
3. Denial / Protestations to the Contrary: The person will claim that they are not blaming the victim, while proceeding to do just that (via points 1 and 2).
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Meh, when you live that life....
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All over a broken Taillight
(http://cdn.stangtv.com/image/2013/03/88LX-Purchase-1.jpg)
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Only good cop?
Is a dead cop.
My premise still stands: prove me wrong.
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Only good cop?
Is a dead cop.
My premise still stands: prove me wrong.
So are you saying that we don't need Law Enforcement at all?
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All over a broken Taillight
(http://cdn.stangtv.com/image/2013/03/88LX-Purchase-1.jpg)
They will kill you over ANYTHING. I once got busted for smoking a cigarette back in the early 2000s on an overhead train platform. Having gone through a really nasty police "situation" before, I got really nervous so I didn't know what to do. I made the mistake of putting my hands in my pockets, the cop got immediately really defensive and reached for his gun.
And as you can see, they will plant evidence to hide their obvious overreaction.
And, to prove what other folks here said before, where is the outrage from the other officers? Why aren't any of the officers asking WHY THE FUCK are you dropping that gun right next to the dead man's body?
Answer: They are all the same.
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So are you saying that we don't need Law Enforcement at all?
Law enforcement, yes.
Out of control cops killing innocent civilians, no.
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Law enforcement, yes.
Out of control cops killing innocent civilians, no.
"Innocent" lmao!!! ;D
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Loool at this nazi troll Erik C desperately trying to justify this mans murder
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Victim Blaming is when a group of people place the victim under a spotlight, where the following pattern emerges:
1. The Spotlight: The focus of discussion is on the victim, not the perpetrator. This is true literally in terms of the number of words devoted to each, and also in terms of where the writer is focusing their research/investigation.
2. The Burden of Change: The responsibility of prevention/solution is put on the victim, not the perpetrator. This is usually implicit rather than explicit, and is often intermixed with point number 1.
3. Denial / Protestations to the Contrary: The person will claim that they are not blaming the victim, while proceeding to do just that (via points 1 and 2).
I wasn't blaming the victim for being shot. I was speculating why he might be running. He surely was not running away because of a traffic violation.
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I wasn't blaming the victim for being shot. I was speculating why he might be running. He surely was not running away because of a traffic violation.
LOL! What possible difference would that make? Maybe he had a date. Maybe he hated jail food. Maybe his drivers license was suspended. the pig SHOT HIM IN THE BACK FIVE TIMES AND THEN PLANTED A GUN NEXT TO HIM.
Please tell me you're not another blind pig lover.
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LOL! What possible difference would that make? Maybe he had a date. Maybe he hated jail food. Maybe his drivers license was suspended. the pig SHOT HIM IN THE BACK FIVE TIMES AND THEN PLANTED A GUN NEXT TO HIM.
Please tell me you're not another blind pig lover.
*In my original post I stated that the cop should not have used deadly force ...will lose his court case... and will do jail time*
But I was courious what made the black dude feel like he had to run.
Did the cop threaten him? Did he have an outstanding warrant?
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Deadbeat dad. Traffic scofflaw. Taser grabber. Cop assault . A lifetime of bad decisions summed up in 60 seconds. we are each responsible for our choices in life and the bad ones tend to catch up with us.
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*In my original post I stated that the cop should not have used deadly force ...will lose his court case... and will do jail time*
But I was courious what made the black dude feel like he had to run.
Did the cop threaten him? Did he have an outstanding warrant?
Warrant over child support.
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He was running away? Damn.
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Warrant over child support.
Thank you for answering my question.
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LOL! What possible difference would that make? Maybe he had a date. Maybe he hated jail food. Maybe his drivers license was suspended. the pig SHOT HIM IN THE BACK FIVE TIMES AND THEN PLANTED A GUN NEXT TO HIM.
Please tell me you're not another blind pig lover.
He planted a gun?
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Deadbeat dad. Traffic scofflaw. Taser grabber. Cop assault . A lifetime of bad decisions summed up in 60 seconds. we are each responsible for our choices in life and the bad ones tend to catch up with us.
LOL!!! So the video proves the cop was lying in his report about everything and yet you believe the dead guy grabbed piggie's tazzer because piggie said that he did. LOL!
Here's a tip: If you're willing to murder people you're probably willing to lie about it.
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He planted a gun?
yes sir watch the video at 1:39 crystal clear
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
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Initially, Slager's attorney released a statement saying that Scott grabbed control of the officer's Taser during a struggle and that Slager fired because he feared for his life. The attorney says he is no longer representing the officer.
You know you're in the shit house when an attorney refuses to represent you any more.
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LOL! just watched the video- murdering pig is even seen planning evidence on the dead guy. piggie walks over and tosses a gun next to the dead guy.
all pro pig lovers will say, "we didn't see what happened before the pig murdered the guy." LOL ;D ;D
I believe people are saying it was a taser he tried to plant.
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I believe people are saying it was a taser he tried to plant.
yea looks like after he shot him, cuffed him, he ran back where he shot him from, picked up the tazer, and walked back to the body and dropped it next to him
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Initially, Slager's attorney released a statement saying that Scott grabbed control of the officer's Taser during a struggle and that Slager fired because he feared for his life. The attorney says he is no longer representing the officer.
You know you're in the shit house when an attorney refuses to represent you any more.
The Lawyer probably sensed that the cop was being dishonest with him. The Cop is in major trouble.
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I believe people are saying it was a taser he tried to plant.
I agree. porky clearly walked back 25-30 yards, probably more exercise than he's gotten in years, picks up his own tazzer that he himself dropped, walked back to the dead guy and dropped the tazzer/gun. That's called planting evidence.
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Jeez that appeared to be VERY stupid. Adios good job to take pride in. Hello shower sex in cell block #3.
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Lawyer probably sensed that the cop was being dishonest with him. Cop is in major trouble.
Exactly. Most lawyers will take any case for money lol. When a lawyer pulls out of the case, you know you're screwed lol.
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Essshh... There is no defending that.
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I agree. porky clearly walked back 25-30 yards, probably more exercise than he's gotten in years, picks up his own tazzer that he himself dropped, walked back to the dead guy and dropped the tazzer/gun. That's called planting evidence.
LMAO!!! Maybe he needs to join planet fitness lol
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It is illegal to shoot a fleeing felon unless maybe he's a danger to others while fleeing
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Wow, the cop is a moron.
Erik, you can't excuse this. They could have easily apprehended the guy by following him with backup. Or they could have arrested him later. Yes, maybe it would have been difficult to find him but really, this cop just destroyed his life by getting involved in this and making a rash decision to shoot the guy in the back.
All cops should demand body cam and follow their own damn laws. This one bad apple will create more problems for cops. They really should wise up and not give the critics anymore fucking ammo.
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In his first communication after the shooting.... the cop said "shots fired and the subject is down. He took my taser"
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Wow, the cop is a moron.
Erik, you can't excuse this. They could have easily apprehended the guy by following him with backup. Or they could have arrested him later. Yes, maybe it would have been difficult to find him but really, this cop just destroyed his life by getting involved in this and making a rash decision to shoot the guy in the back.
All cops should demand body cam and follow their own damn laws. This one bad apple will create more problems for cops. They really should wise up and not give the critics anymore fucking ammo.
exactly...the guy was a fifty year old fat guy.....he looked like he was running in slow motion..he could have been run down and overpowered easily..and if he got away, so what???????????????
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In his first communication after the shooting.... the cop said "shots fired and the subject is down. He took my taser"
;D And clearly the taser is laying on the ground behind the murdering pig. the pigs very first instinct is to lie.
Even the black piglet refuses to try and help the guy. JFC what is wrong with these freaks.
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Cold blooded murderer.
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seemingly there is additional footage where the cops goes back. gets the tazer and drops it near the man. You mutherfuckers asked for a police state after 9/11, so you got one.
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seemingly there is additional footage where the cops goes back. gets the tazer and drops it near the man. You mutherfuckers asked for a police state after 9/11, so you got one.
this did happen..I saw it on CNN
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;D And clearly the taser is laying on the ground behind the murdering pig. the pigs very first instinct is to lie.
Even the black piglet refuses to try and help the guy. JFC what is wrong with these freaks.
I wonder how many cops in his position would have told the truth and not try to cover it up :-\
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I wonder how many cops in his position would have told the truth and not try to cover it up :-\
Good cops should welcome and insist on body cams so bad cops cannot do this shit anymore. There are more good cops than bad ones.
Just remember cops deal with criminals day in and day out and if they are not careful they get shot and killed themselves. In this video below the cop was too trusting and paid for it with his life.
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but was he TOO trusting because the guy was white???
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seemingly there is additional footage where the cops goes back. gets the tazer and drops it near the man. You mutherfuckers asked for a police state after 9/11, so you got one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
here ya go 1;39 in the video
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happens all the time
It does? When? Where?
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Good cops should welcome and insist on body cams so bad cops cannot do this shit anymore. There are more good cops than bad ones.
Just remember cops deal with criminals day in and day out and if they are not careful they get shot and killed themselves. In this video below the cop was too trusting and paid for it with his life.
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but was he TOO trusting because the guy was white???
Was the guy white? He looked Hispanic / Indian to me.
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Was the guy white? He looked Hispanic / Indian to me.
EPIC denial
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It does? When? Where?
there you go,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States)
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Was the guy white? He looked Hispanic / Indian to me.
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He looks pretty white to me.
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there you go,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States)
The fuck is this? I don't see a list but 99% of these knobs deserved to die. The world is a better place. Thanks pigs :D
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Ok, I just saw that photo. Looks white there.
In the screenshots he looks like a paki:
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He was great in the Mummy.
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once a few getbiggers get zimmerman's cawk out of their throat, they can explain why this shoot was perfectly legal and justified.
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once a few getbiggers get zimmerman's cawk out of their throat, they can explain why this shoot was perfectly legal and justified.
LOL @ "Zimmerman's cock"
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That was god awful. Bad shooting no doubt. And it appears he tried to plant the taser by the body. If that was his story he's not only a cop who lost head during an altercation and needlessly and illegally shot someone fleeing, he is a dishonest piece of crap.
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So are you saying that we don't need Law Enforcement at all?
Yes. Anarchy would be a safer option for the average person. At least then people could choose their 'tribe', define what the actual threats are and come up with plans to defend themselves. The police force is over rated in terms of offering protection and safety for the average civilian. The Police force was essentially created by the Elites to keep the underclasses in their place.
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Yes. Anarchy would be a safer option for the average person. At least then people could choose their 'tribe', define what the actually threats are and come up with plans to defend themselves. The police force is over rated in terms of offering protection and safety for the average civilian. The Police force was essentially created by the Elites to keep the underclasses in their place.
yeah.. sounds reasonable.. ;)
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Yes. Anarchy would be a safer option for the average person. At least then people could choose their 'tribe', define what the actually threats are and come up with plans to defend themselves. The police force is over rated in terms of offering protection and safety for the average civilian. The Police force was essentially created by the Elites to keep the underclasses in their place.
Yeah the places where anarchy is alive and well (Liberia, Sudan, Ethiopia, etc) are functioning well. You are a sharp mother fucker brah
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I hope investigators review both of those officers reports to see what is said about the location of the taser. If they say that is where it was found, the other officer gets fired and charged with falsifying a government document. I think that is what happened, but I've also been to shootings where a crowd was gathering and weapons needed to be secured. Doubt that's the case here, but if they both state in their report the taser was moved to a secure area due to a crowd gathering, that's acceptable. But again, if they report that's where it was found.. fry them both
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That was god awful. Bad shooting no doubt. And it appears he tried to plant the taser by the body. If that was his story he's not only a cop who lost head during an altercation and needlessly and illegally shot someone fleeing, he is a dishonest piece of crap.
he claimed the dead man took his taser. then he went and picked up the taser and tossed it by the body, while his piece of shit partner saw the whole thing and didn't say a word.
they both belong in prison.
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Yes. Anarchy would be a safer option for the average person. At least then people could choose their 'tribe', define what the actually threats are and come up with plans to defend themselves. The police force is over rated in terms of offering protection and safety for the average civilian. The Police force was essentially created by the Elites to keep the underclasses in their place.
Well... you're a on to something here, but you've gone too far. You're acting just like those murdering piglets, that go from a traffic stop for a busted tail light to shooting a guy in the back five times. A measured sane, rational response is needed. You don't nuke Santa Ana, California because it's full of greasy mexicans- you arrest the greasy mexicans and deport them.
Zero police would not be a very good idea.
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Yeah the places where anarchy is alive and well (Liberia, Sudan, Ethiopia, etc) are functioning well. You are a sharp mother fucker brah
There isn't anywhere on the planet where anarchy is alive and well (except in the jungle), you are talking about failed states, not anarchy. It is your response which is typical of the average level of ignorance around what anarchy actually is.
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he claimed the dead man took his taser. then he went and picked up the taser and tossed it by the body, while his piece of shit partner saw the whole thing and didn't say a word.
they both belong in prison.
There appears to be taser wire in the video.. maybe the guy did take his taser from him at some point.. but when he shot the guy, the taser was irrelevant. Dude f**ked up big time. Bad shoot. Someone died because of this poor excuse.
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Yes. Anarchy would be a safer option for the average person. At least then people could choose their 'tribe', define what the actual threats are and come up with plans to defend themselves. The police force is over rated in terms of offering protection and safety for the average civilian. The Police force was essentially created by the Elites to keep the underclasses in their place.
Going back the stone ages is not how to advance in society...
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Well... you're a on to something here, but you've gone too far. You're acting just like those murdering piglets, that go from a traffic stop for a busted tail light to shooting a guy in the back five times. A measured sane, rational response is needed. You don't nuke Santa Ana, California because it's full of greasy mexicans- you arrest the greasy mexicans and deport them.
Zero police would not be a very good idea.
Well, having Police hasn't proven very effective either. In a true anarchistic society, like say the one Nature follows, eventually a natural order prevails. Is it perfect? Of course not, but it can't be any worse than the state the world is in currently.
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I hope investigators review both of those officers reports to see what is said about the location of the taser. If they say that is where it was found, the other officer gets fired and charged with falsifying a government document. I think that is what happened, but I've also been to shootings where a crowd was gathering and weapons needed to be secured. Doubt that's the case here, but if they both state in their report the taser was moved to a secure area due to a crowd gathering, that's acceptable. But again, if they report that's where it was found.. fry them both
Lord have mercy. A007 admitting the cop(s) is dirty? Lord, I've got a case of the vapers.
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Well, having Police hasn't proven very effective either. In a true anarchistic society, like say the one Nature follows, eventually a natural order prevails. Is it perfect? Of course not, but it can't be any worse than the state the world is in currently.
I believe any rational person would agree policing is more effective than anarchy
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Going back the stone ages is not how to advance in society...
Take a look around you, war, corruption and inequality on an unprecedented scale. Is that what you consider an advanced society?
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I believe any rational person would agree policing is more effective than anarchy
Tell that to all those defenseless people that the Police Shoot, at least in an anarchistic society when confronted by someone wanting to control them with lethal force they would be prepared and willing to defend themselves. And who gets to determine that they are rational, the rest of the lunatics in the asylum? And what do you call effective, you mean keeping the elites in power? If you mean by effective that the Police are doing a good job of protecting civilians, excuse me while I laugh a big hearty laugh. Th average civilian needs some way of protecting themselves from the Police, this would be an option in an anarchistic society.
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Lord have mercy. A007 admitting the cop(s) is dirty? Lord, I've got a case of the vapers.
It happens... sadly...
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Where's Archer now??????????????????
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It happens... sadly...
It's a bummer too.
Some dude is dead. Taxpayers will pay millions in the civil suit that will follow. Some cop somewhere in the future will be killed because "all cops are murdering pigs that hate spookie". It's a real bummer.
Because of my years of powerlifting and bodybuilding I know LOTS of cops. I've trained, travel with, competed against, sold drugs to, bought drugs from, and partied with many cops. I've heard cops say (about a cop killed), "Dude was an asshole. He should have been shot years ago. Sure I'll go to the funeral- and get paid OT... and don't think we won't bring this up when we negotiate out next pay raise..."
Cops just need to learn that "shoot first and ask questions later" is just a joke, in real life you can't really shoot people as your first option. You can't kill people to resolve your problem every time.
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Did the world a favor.
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Did the world a favor.
Atticus might disagree.
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TERRIBLE!!!!!
My only question is, if it was a white man that got killed would he also have been charged with murder? Or would no one even record a cop and white man interaction?
RIP How can this be happening in the US
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TERRIBLE!!!!!
My only question is, if it was a white man that got killed would he also have been charged with murder? Or would no one even record a cop and white man interaction?
RIP How can this be happening in the US
Well I'm not an attorney, but "if it was a white man that got killed would he also have been charged with murder?"
-Since the white man would then already be dead, it seems silly to charge him with murder.
You state, "my only question is" and then you ask another question. Sir, please unplug your computer.
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TERRIBLE!!!!!
My only question is, if it was a white man that got killed would he also have been charged with murder? Or would no one even record a cop and white man interaction?
RIP How can this be happening in the US
LOL seriously? If this cop had killed a white man, he would probably be sitting on death row right now.
As terrible as this is, we only know about it because of the guy who filmed it. Imagine how much of this stuff goes on, covered up by policemen, everyday.
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Our country is heading towards some real serious problems with this race shit. I fear for our future.
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LOL seriously? If this cop had killed a white man, he would probably be sitting on death row right now.
Sorry but I think if he killed a white man there would be less media attention thus less pressure and in turn more of a "lets reassign him and wait to see what some DA says"
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Our country is heading towards some real serious problems with this race shit. I fear for our future.
I think racism is a bigger problem then it was 10 years ago. You have a massive resurgence of anti-black rhetoric, anti jewish movements and all of a sudden lots of anti asian talk (unrelated to getbig).
It could be we simply are getting to see more videos / comments than ever so there is just an illusion that there is an increase in racism, but I don't know.
WHAT WE DO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT is trigger points. Right now I would say the pot is cooking, lots of things are rolling around in the pot, anger stress etc. Historically trigger points involved poverty and financial collapses. Right now with the stock market high, unemployment low, consumer confidence at a record high etc. the chances are low of a financial stress trigger point.
YES, I know the argument that all the numbers are fudged and the real unemployment is 105% and all the homes and cars being sold are all to Russian and Chinese billionaires, but I am trying to have a real conversation here not a tinfoil hat club gathering.
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After firing eight shots at his back its very important to cuff the dead man. ::)
Oh and then stand around and in no way try to help him.
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Our country is heading towards some real serious problems with this race shit. I fear for our future.
It does have that slightly, "oh they're jews, they're animals, kill them, kill them all" feel to it.
Eventually, France or Russia, or Japan is going to ask, "Why do you keep killing all those black people?" If blacks were smart they would claim some sort of holocaust thing. Ghettos, street executions of blacks, seems sort of like what the nazis did.
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Yeah the places where anarchy is alive and well (Liberia, Sudan, Ethiopia, etc) are functioning well. You are a sharp mother fucker brah
I live in a country where there is no police force.
I am 100% serious. All cops where I live are simply part of an uniformed, organized gang of extortionists.
They could not give 2 fucks about solving crimes. Go to a cop shop to report a crime here and they will ask for money to investigate it.
They will of course, bust enough crims for drugs etc for the press.
They extort business, run prostitution, make money from human trafficking.
They do not prevent theft, burglary, traffic crime, violent crime and in most cases perps get away with it.
Yet on the whole, the place is fairly peaceful.
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It does have that slightly, "oh they're jews, they're animals, kill them, kill them all" feel to it.
Eventually, France or Russia, or Japan is going to ask, "Why do you keep killing all those black people?" If blacks were smart they would claim some sort of holocaust thing. Ghettos, street executions of blacks, seems sort of like what the nazis did.
This is were you lose all your credibility:
What ISIS is doing you justify by saying it is really the MI6, Mossad and the CIA
What Assad is doing you claim it is really the US doing it
What Al Queda is doing you claim it is a false flag
You only open your mouth when Israel fires back at Gaza after 4000 rockets were shot over Israel by Hamas in Gaza
How do you want anyone here to take you serious?
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I live in a country where there is no police force.
I am 100% serious. All cops where I live are simply part of an uniformed, organized gang of extortionists.
They could not give 2 fucks about solving crimes. Go to a cop shop to report a crime here and they will ask for money to investigate it.
They will of course, bust enough crims for drugs etc for the press.
They extort business, run prostitution, make money from human trafficking.
They do not prevent theft, burglary, traffic crime, violent crime and in most cases perps get away with it.
Yet on the whole, the place is fairly peaceful.
Sorry but there is a system that solves all problems, EVERY cop, federal agent or anyone in any position of power needs to be recorded and monitored live, every word spoken every action taken, once you do that corruption vanishes and the people who will apply for those positions will be automatically better qualified.
The above solution will also help innocent cops from falling victim to made up stories, a common problem for them.
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cop thought he was vic mackey. just casually tossing a taser next to the bad guy after he was dead.
looks great on tv, but if someone is filming it, that's prison, bitch.
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All we ever hear in these cases is how some petrified lethally armed policeman was terrified for his life. It makes no sense, it makes more sense for civilians to be terrified for their lives any time they deal with a police officer.
AMEN
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This is were you lose all your credibility:
What ISIS is doing you justify by saying it is really the MI6, Mossad and the CIA
What Assad is doing you claim it is really the US doing it
What Al Queda is doing you claim it is a false flag
You only open your mouth when Israel fires back at Gaza after 4000 rockets were shot over Israel by Hamas in Gaza
How do you want anyone here to take you serious?
Please sell me the drugs you are taking. Perhaps a trade? I'll give you 28 grams of PCP for whatever it is you're smoking/drinking/injecting.
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"Notice all these videos, of cops shooting criminals, never show what the perp did before the cop shot him."
- this
and society should reward every cop killing criminals...
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"Notice all these videos, of cops shooting criminals, never show what the perp did before the cop shot him."
- this
and society should reward every cop killing criminals...
Please, enlighten us. Give us a tale of what happened before the pig murdered the watermelon that would exonerate the pig. We're listening...
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It happens... sadly...
:o Jeez Louise.
You started off well by agreeing the cop is a cowardly scumbag.
Why the 'Sadly' Part.
Because he was caught on film killing that man.?
Because he is a Cop.?
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Sorry but there is a system that solves all problems, EVERY cop, federal agent or anyone in any position of power needs to be recorded and monitored live, every word spoken every action taken, once you do that corruption vanishes and the people who will apply for those positions will be automatically better qualified.
The above solution will also help innocent cops from falling victim to made up stories, a common problem for them.
Well made Point.
Why would Any Sane Rational Cop etc
Be against this idea.
Only if they have Behaviour They Want To Keep Hidden.
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He was 50 years old. An aspiring rapper. He planned to study medicine, and graduate, then join the Astronaut corp, after he straightened his life out first.
;D
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Please sell me the drugs you are taking. Perhaps a trade? I'll give you 28 grams of PCP for whatever it is you're smoking/drinking/injecting.
hahahaaa ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry but there is a system that solves all problems, EVERY cop, federal agent or anyone in any position of power needs to be recorded and monitored live, every word spoken every action taken, once you do that corruption vanishes and the people who will apply for those positions will be automatically better qualified.
The above solution will also help innocent cops from falling victim to made up stories, a common problem for them.
System on top of system, rules on top of rules.
Systems require enforcement. Enforcement means a new organisation with a budget. New organization with a budget means more corruption.
You ever thought that LESS systems & rules may be the way forward?
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(http://i.imgur.com/8jQaNVe.jpg)
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He was 50 years old. An aspiring rapper. He planned to study medicine, and graduate, then join the Astronaut corp, after he straightened his life out first.
Lol.
Sounds like a bad shoot to me. I didn't watch the video but if the description is correct the cop is in deep shit and he deserves it.
What the fuck was he thinking? With all the Ferguson shit going on this cop is as dumb as a box of rocks. Fuck him.
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this did happen..I saw it on CNN
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"Notice all these videos, of cops shooting criminals, never show what the perp did before the cop shot him."
- this
and society should reward every cop killing criminals...
Yes, because people are walking around with cameras 24/7/365 filming every fucking thing ::)
blame the police unions and the pigs for constantly refusing to wear Video Vest Cams while on the job getting paid by the public tax dollars
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Holy shit!!!! Breaking news: White cop charged with murder for shooting 50 year old black man in the back.
Officer said he feared for his life.
Of course he feared for his life!
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Lol.
Sounds like a bad shoot to me. I didn't watch the video but if the description is correct the cop is in deep shit and he deserves it.
What the fuck was he thinking? With all the Ferguson shit going on this cop is as dumb as a box of rocks. Fuck him.
Not dumb - ANGRY.
Cops get angy like everyone else, but some lack the ability to not PUNISH a person who has pissed them off. We all have to resist punching someone in the face daily, right? Even if it's just the fat man farting in line in front of us at 7-11. But some people feel they won't get in trouble for talking shit, pushing people, etc. Cops feel like that. The cop KNEW he could casually toss the tazer on the dead body, and his partner would back him up 100% on the story. Zero hesitation. One wonders if they've done this kinda thing before.
They think it's the Shield... just plant a gun on him.... cops' word agaisnt a dead man.
It's pathetic - and the PARTNER should be prosecuted also. THAT is how this shit stops... not when you lock up desperate cops that do desperate shit...but when you lock up the cops that see it and don't report the crime. Cops are viewed as rats for FOLLOWING THE FUCKING LAW and reporting when they see other cops commit crimes. WTF is that? imagine that in other parts of life.
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I believe any rational person would agree policing is more effective than anarchy
"Rational" being key. Consider who we're dealing with, though.
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unarmed man
trained officer, handcuffs, pepper spray, baton, taser, and gun
seems the only one that should be in fear of his life is the person being detained nowadays
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LOL seriously? If this cop had killed a white man, he would probably be sitting on death row right now.
Death Row before the trial, interesting.
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Do any of you think the cop shot him simply because he was black?
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Do any of you think the cop shot him simply because he was black?
Absurd
He shot and killed him because he had a broken taillight
(http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/63237528+w+h+q80+re0+cr1/subaru-legacy-broken-taillight-07)
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Absurd
He shot and killed him because he had a broken taillight
(http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/63237528+w+h+q80+re0+cr1/subaru-legacy-broken-taillight-07)
Justice!
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First case in a long time that actually was a bad shoot and the cop should go to jail.
Serious question to all you cop hating knuckleheads...
When you see this and compare it to other videos like Micheal Brown, the choking guy, the kid with the toy gun etc... Do you see the same thing in your crazy fruit loop, hippy go free free brains?
Because of all the nonsense in recent years over the bullshit cases... The one justified case of outrage will prolly not get the coverage or outrage it deserves because you fucking idiots cry racism and bad cops over every degenerate loser who deserves to be shot.
Well done.
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First case in a long time that actually was a bad shoot and the cop should go to jail.
Serious question to all you cop hating knuckleheads...
When you see this and compare it to other videos like Micheal Brown, the choking guy, the kid with the toy gun etc... Do you see the same thing in your crazy fruit loop, hippy go free free brains?
Because of all the nonsense in recent years over the bullshit cases... The one justified case of outrage will prolly not get the coverage or outrage it deserves because you ducking idiots cry racism and bad cops over every degenerate loser who deserves to be shot.
Well done.
Fuck you and fuck cops dick nick.
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First case in a long time that actually was a bad shoot and the cop should go to jail.
Serious question to all you cop hating knuckleheads...
When you see this and compare it to other videos like Micheal Brown, the choking guy, the kid with the toy gun etc... Do you see the same thing in your crazy fruit loop, hippy go free free brains?
Because of all the nonsense in recent years over the bullshit cases... The one justified case of outrage will prolly not get the coverage or outrage it deserves because you fucking idiots cry racism and bad cops over every degenerate loser who deserves to be shot.
Well done.
there was no mike brown video with the cop
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Fuck you and fuck cops dick nick.
Well thought out response my nebrew friend. Not sure what prompted such a response, but I guess even with video the truth doesn't matter. If you think this video and some of the others are the same you are mentally ill.
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there was no mike brown video with the cop
Plenty of witnesses who saw the assault... But you didn't answer the question... Same as this to you?
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First case in a long time that actually was a bad shoot and the cop should go to jail.
Serious question to all you cop hating knuckleheads...
When you see this and compare it to other videos like Micheal Brown, the choking guy, the kid with the toy gun etc... Do you see the same thing in your crazy fruit loop, hippy go free free brains?
Because of all the nonsense in recent years over the bullshit cases... The one justified case of outrage will prolly not get the coverage or outrage it deserves because you fucking idiots cry racism and bad cops over every degenerate loser who deserves to be shot.
Well done.
THICK Nick? THICK as in..
thick adjective (STUPID)
› informal stupid: I told you not to touch that - are you deaf or just thick?
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/thick
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Plenty of witnesses who saw the assault... But you didn't answer the question... Same as this to you?
yes excessive force on all cases , bad judgement by all sworn officers of the peace in all those cases
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THICK Nick? THICK as in..
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/thick
Do you plan on answering the question?
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Well thought out response my nebrew friend. Not sure what prompted such a response, but I guess even with video the truth doesn't matter. If you think this video and some of the others are the same you are mentally ill.
What prompted that response is you're one of these dipshits that believes that outside of this latest shooting that just about all if not all these killings were justified. They were not. I'm not going to get into a 10 pager over it. That's why prompted my short but blunt response.
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yes excessive force on all cases , bad judgement by all sworn officers of the peace in all those cases
Lol. Mental. Illness.
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What prompted that response is you're one of these dipshits that believes that outside of this latest shooting that just about all if not all these killings were justified. They were not. I'm not going to get into a 10 pager over it. That's why prompted my short but blunt response.
If you don't see a difference between this and some of the others it's simply because you hate cops and are an angry nebrew. I'm sorry but that's the truth. THIS is what excessive force is and the guy will pay for it... If you see the same thing in all the other crap, there is no hope for you. Mental illness.
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Even an extremely-racist friend of mine said the cop deserves to go to jail.
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If you don't see a difference between this and some of the others it's simply because you hate cops and are an angry nebrew. I'm sorry but that's the truth. THIS is what excessive force is and the guy will pay for it... If you see the same thing in all the other crap, there is no hope for you. Mental illness.
Yeah but we all know that a lot of cops are scum fucks independent of actually shooting perps. They are just scum fucks anyway.
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If we had VIDEO of those other shoots, things might get a lot blurrier, very quickly.
Of course, since we 100% trust the cop's word over the word of a dead person, yes, well...
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Yeah but we all know that a lot of cops are scum fucks independent of actually shooting perps. They are just scum fucks anyway.
The perps are always upstanding examples of humanity though right? Good, innocent kids unjustly killed by crazy cops... THIS IS THE PROBLEM EXACTLY. Lol thank you for putting your idiocy right out there for all to see.
And you still didn't answer.
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If we had VIDEO of those other shoots, things might get a lot blurrier, very quickly.
Of course, since we 100% trust the cop's word over the word of a dead person, yes, well...
We did all but 1 and there were plenty of witnesses for that one... Answer the question... Is this the same?
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First case in a long time that actually was a bad shoot and the cop should go to jail.
Serious question to all you cop hating knuckleheads...
When you see this and compare it to other videos like Micheal Brown, the choking guy, the kid with the toy gun etc... Do you see the same thing in your crazy fruit loop, hippy go free free brains?
Because of all the nonsense in recent years over the bullshit cases... The one justified case of outrage will prolly not get the coverage or outrage it deserves because you fucking idiots cry racism and bad cops over every degenerate loser who deserves to be shot.
Well done.
Well said
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Lol. Mental. Illness.
you seem to be of the thinking of murdering a human is the only way to resolve a physical altercation , in all the cases you mentioned, none of the victims had any deadly weapons
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The perps are always upstanding examples of humanity though right? Good, innocent kids unjustly killed by crazy cops... THIS IS THE PROBLEM EXACTLY. Lol thank you for putting your idiocy right out there for all to see.
And you still didn't answer.
I never said anything remotely like what you allege, you THICK headed moron.
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I never said anything remotely like what you allege, you THICK headed moron.
Still didn't answer. Thanks for playing numbskull.
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We did all but 1 and there were plenty of witnesses for that one... Answer the question... Is this the same?
obviously not the same - mike brown was "godzilla" against the 6 foot 4 cop LOL.
All kidding aside, Mike Brown punched the cop, as the one bruise showed. Whether he was a "deadly" threat when the cop ran 150 feeet to catch his punk ass, who knows. (I still believe the cop was angry he got punched, and decided to shoot the kid when he caught him no matter what).
ANyway, in this case, it was a soft-ass 50 year old man, RUNNING AWAY, and the cop fired on him. Then, to make things worse, he casually tosses a weapon near the body and includes it in his report.
Without planting the weapon, MAYBE MAYBE he gets away with the shoot... fired but not charged. At this point, he clearly murders the dude, and clearly plants evidence... even the police and his own lawyer are turning on him.
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Still didn't answer. Thanks for playing numbskull.
I didn't see any of these videos you mention.
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obviously not the same - mike brown was "godzilla" against the 6 foot 4 cop LOL.
All kidding aside, Mike Brown punched the cop, as the one bruise showed. Whether he was a "deadly" threat when the cop ran 150 feeet to catch his punk ass, who knows. (I still believe the cop was angry he got punched, and decided to shoot the kid when he caught him no matter what).
ANyway, in this case, it was a soft-ass 50 year old man, RUNNING AWAY, and the cop fired on him. Then, to make things worse, he casually tosses a weapon near the body and includes it in his report.
Without planting the weapon, MAYBE MAYBE he gets away with the shoot... fired but not charged. At this point, he clearly murders the dude, and clearly plants evidence... even the police and his own lawyer are turning on him.
I believe the 6 foot 4 , 38yr old cop compared the 18yr old kid Mike Brown to the Brutal Strength of HULK HOGAN, this 18 could not only bodyslam Andre the Giant , but probably Suplex him as well
LOL fucking Beta cops
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obviously not the same - mike brown was "godzilla" against the 6 foot 4 cop LOL.
All kidding aside, Mike Brown punched the cop, as the one bruise showed. Whether he was a "deadly" threat when the cop ran 150 feeet to catch his punk ass, who knows. (I still believe the cop was angry he got punched, and decided to shoot the kid when he caught him no matter what).
ANyway, in this case, it was a soft-ass 50 year old man, RUNNING AWAY, and the cop fired on him. Then, to make things worse, he casually tosses a weapon near the body and includes it in his report.
Without planting the weapon, MAYBE MAYBE he gets away with the shoot... fired but not charged. At this point, he clearly murders the dude, and clearly plants evidence... even the police and his own lawyer are turning on him.
You are the king of playing the fence. I clearly said this guy needs to go to jail. We do agree about this not being the same as the other cases.. Except for the outrage part. If you had outrage over those other cases you should feel like an ass after seeing this.
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Dude had a child support warrant... of course he deserved to die
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When cops go to prison, are they secluded from general population? If not, damn, I can only imagine what they are going to do to him.
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When cops go to prison, are they secluded from general population? If not, damn, I can only imagine what they are going to do to him.
PC, just like celebs.
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Justice!
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I bet your cock got hard when that pig murdered that man.
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Where's Archer now??????????????????
Posting under another account. If you look closely, you'll spot him.
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It's a bummer too.
Some dude is dead. Taxpayers will pay millions in the civil suit that will follow. Some cop somewhere in the future will be killed because "all cops are murdering pigs that hate spookie". It's a real bummer.
Because of my years of powerlifting and bodybuilding I know LOTS of cops. I've trained, travel with, competed against, sold drugs to, bought drugs from, and partied with many cops. I've heard cops say (about a cop killed), "Dude was an asshole. He should have been shot years ago. Sure I'll go to the funeral- and get paid OT... and don't think we won't bring this up when we negotiate out next pay raise..."
Cops just need to learn that "shoot first and ask questions later" is just a joke, in real life you can't really shoot people as your first option. You can't kill people to resolve your problem every time.
hadn't heard the overtime thing before.. we obviously don't get overtime for it. Can't personally recall an officer here that was killed that I thought that about but I've been lucky. I don't think 99 percent of the cops think shoot first ask questions later is a good motto but like you eluded to, 1 person killed without cause is 1 too many. He's dead. No fixing that. His family suffers, no fixing that. The tax payers pay out money.. people lose perspective and start hating all cops.. no one wins here, it's truly sad.
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Sorry but I think if he killed a white man there would be less media attention thus less pressure and in turn more of a "lets reassign him and wait to see what some DA says"
could be.. but I think it doesn't matter the race of the person in this case.. it was clearly a bad shooting. I also think this cop would have shot a white male in the same circumstances.. he was on tilt and lost all common sense and good judgement
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I bet your cock got hard when that pig murdered that man.
I'm just glad they got the whole tail light thing resolved.
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:o Jeez Louise.
You started off well by agreeing the cop is a cowardly scumbag.
Why the 'Sadly' Part.
Because he was caught on film killing that man.?
Because he is a Cop.?
Sad because a cop lost control and it cost someone a life.. and sadly.. it happens that people pay the ultimate price in a situation like this . I wish it didn't happen..ever
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Not dumb - ANGRY.
Cops get angy like everyone else, but some lack the ability to not PUNISH a person who has pissed them off. We all have to resist punching someone in the face daily, right? Even if it's just the fat man farting in line in front of us at 7-11. But some people feel they won't get in trouble for talking shit, pushing people, etc. Cops feel like that. The cop KNEW he could casually toss the tazer on the dead body, and his partner would back him up 100% on the story. Zero hesitation. One wonders if they've done this kinda thing before.
They think it's the Shield... just plant a gun on him.... cops' word agaisnt a dead man.
It's pathetic - and the PARTNER should be prosecuted also. THAT is how this shit stops... not when you lock up desperate cops that do desperate shit...but when you lock up the cops that see it and don't report the crime. Cops are viewed as rats for FOLLOWING THE FUCKING LAW and reporting when they see other cops commit crimes. WTF is that? imagine that in other parts of life.
I agree with the first part of your post 240, I think you -painted the picture pretty well. He was excited, adrenaline, pissed etc etc.. lost control. totally unacceptable. Was this the cops first rodeo? Man.....
On your second part, if the police reports these guys did reflect anything other than what you see on the video, the other cops should have the book thrown at him as well.
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I'm just glad they got the whole tail light thing resolved.
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I'll be glad when your body is laying on a tray with a tag wrapped around your toes.
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I'll be glad when your body is laying on a tray with a tag wrapped around your toes.
lolol
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could be.. but I think it doesn't matter the race of the person in this case.. it was clearly a bad shooting. I also think this cop would have shot a white male in the same circumstances.. he was on tilt and lost all common sense and good judgement
NO WAY.....as a matter of fact, there are clips all over the internet of circumstances where white guys fought physically with cops and even brandished a weapon and the cop showed restraint
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In reading the latest news articles and the previous statements before the video was released, there are obvious problems with his story. I would HOPE the investigation would have uncovered the descripancies or at least cast serious doubt on the incident. For example; cop says they struggled over the taser after the deployment was unsuccessful. (one prong struck and stuck to Scott) So he then drew his weapon firing in fear of his life, implying the struggle was on going.
However, if it were an automatic (number of shots would indicate so ) then 8 spent shell casings would be near the vehicle, not anywhere near the body. This would present a problem. If his story, when he is getting specific is they were fired in close proximity, there would likely be powder burns on the clothing. Absent that, it should raise flags. Finally, all the rounds striking his back would not support his version. Adding all three of those things together... should indicate to an investigator the events as described couldn't have happened as told. If the department was too incompetent to figure it out, the back up system, which is the DOJ/FBI should have zeroed in on it.
I'm just glad the video surfaced so there is zero chance he skates on it
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NO WAY.....as a matter of fact, there are clips all over the internet of circumstances where white guys fought physically with cops and even brandished a weapon and the cop showed restraint
just as there are instances where minorities have done similar things and were not shot. I'm just giving my opinion, no way to really know but I think it was more a matter of a cop who mentally wasn't capable of dealing with the experience of someone fighting him and taking his taser and at that point, it wouldn't matter if it was a purple subject running from him. But I could be wrong.. just my opinion
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In reading the latest news articles and the previous statements before the video was released, there are obvious problems with his story. I would HOPE the investigation would have uncovered the descripancies or at least cast serious doubt on the incident. For example; cop says they struggled over the taser after the deployment was unsuccessful. (one prong struck and stuck to Scott) So he then drew his weapon firing in fear of his life, implying the struggle was on going.
However, if it were an automatic (number of shots would indicate so ) then 8 spent shell casings would be near the vehicle, not anywhere near the body. This would present a problem. If his story, when he is getting specific is they were fired in close proximity, there would likely be powder burns on the clothing. Absent that, it should raise flags. Finally, all the rounds striking his back would not support his version. Adding all three of those things together... should indicate to an investigator the events as described couldn't have happened as told. If the department was too incompetent to figure it out, the back up system, which is the DOJ/FBI should have zeroed in on it.
I'm just glad the video surfaced so there is zero chance he skates on it
The great thing about this video is it totally removes the white/black racist narrative in a way. Its now just a case of police brutality and deadly force when none was needed and proven with a great piece of video, so now this scum bag cop piece of shit will have loads of BBC in prison now.
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The great thing about this video is it totally removes the white/black racist narrative in a way. Its now just a case of police brutality and deadly force when none was needed and proven with a great piece of video, so now this scum bag cop piece of shit will have loads of BBC in prison now.
Unfortunately I think it still maintains a generous amount of racist narrative.. in that some people will believe it only happened because the subject was black.
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anyone have stats of Black Officers shooting white people ???
or Black officers Killing Black people ???
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I don't think 99 percent of the cops think shoot first ask questions later is a good motto.
1. With all the Police Shootings I think it's fair to say a Fair percentage Do Think Shoot First.
like you eluded to, 1 person killed without cause is 1 too many. He's dead. No fixing that. His family suffers, no fixing that. The tax payers pay out money.. people lose perspective and start hating all cops.. no one wins here, it's truly sad.
2. It is Truly Sad. Only it is Not Just The Very Occasional Shooting. It is Happening More & More.
And Yes The Public Lose ( have lost ) confidence & trust in Police. Rightly so.
When there is more openness & Honesty From all Police This Will Change For The Better.
3. As Stated Before. Police Should Wear Video Recording Equipment Switched on at All Times.
For Their & The Publics Best Interest.
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I'll be glad when your body is laying on a tray with a tag wrapped around your toes.
Racist post reported.
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1. I disagree. for every police shooting, there are thousands of contacts that do not end in shootings. Which proves it is not the motto
2. We'll have to disagree on this one
3. I agree with the concept, the reality is "on all the time" isn't practical. I agree cops should have in car cameras and body cameras. Strict policy on when it should be on, which in short, is any time they are in contact or about to be in contact with a citizen.
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lmao at all the cop haters wanking themselves into a frenzy
cause they finally have one where they are right
that cop should do life
fucking idiot
but the one percent doesnt prove the rule against he 99
like the armchair gangsters on here would have you believe
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On your second part, if the police reports these guys did reflect anything other than what you see on the video, the other cops should have the book thrown at him as well.
they didn;t know abouot the planting of the taser until the video came out - even though he tossed it there while cop #2 watched.
So cop #2 was never asked, or cop #2 quietly kept it to self... but tossing a weapon near a dead body that's still bleeding lol - usually that kind of 'disturbing the crime scene' should raise eyebrows with Cop #2.
If Cop #2 saw shooter toss weapon next to body, he should have alerted IA or whoever. That's a HUGE deal. Not saying anything - when you're a cop - is condoning the crime.
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Unfortunate. But some conflict of interests must have developed between the two men, and as a result, one died and the other is frowned upon.
Frowned upon rather vigorously I must say. I wonder if he will be deemed a wrongdoer in court or if he will be set free anew.
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its amazing that the very first time this has ever happened it was captured on Camera , what is the luck, first time cop ever shot a person in cold blooded murder in the day time, and planted evidence and it was captured on cam, you are far luckier to win the state lotto several time in a life time then to see this happen again for the 2nd time in history
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NO WAY.....as a matter of fact, there are clips all over the internet of circumstances where white guys fought physically with cops and even brandished a weapon and the cop showed restraint
Does this mean this never happens with black perps? The lunacy on this board still surprises me sometimes...
Because there are some videos of white cops not shooting white perps, that must mean no white cop ever doesn't shoot black perps... They always shoot to kill them. Of course.
Seriously... What the fuck is wrong with you?
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unarmed man
trained officer, handcuffs, pepper spray, baton, taser, and gun
seems the only one that should be in fear of his life is the person being detained nowadays
Damn Good Post.
Every Reason To Fear For Your Life.
If it Was The Other Way Round & Cops Were Unarmed
The 'In Fear Of Their Life' Line Would Be Believable.
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its amazing that the very first time this has ever happened it was captured on Camera , what is the luck, first time cop ever shot a person in cold blooded murder in the day time, and planted evidence and it was captured on cam, you are far luckier to win the state lotto several time in a life time then to see this happen again for the 2nd time in history
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It amazes me just as much that every perp never does anything to deserve being shot... They are good boys who didn't do nuffin wrong and were shot by evil cops. Amazing how often good boys just HAPPEN to be in the wrong place where a violent crime is commited AND the cop happens to be a murderer just at the right time. Amazing.
Idiot.
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its amazing that the very first time this has ever happened it was captured on Camera , what is the luck, first time cop ever shot a person in cold blooded murder in the day time, and planted evidence and it was captured on cam, you are far luckier to win the state lotto several time in a life time then to see this happen again for the 2nd time in history
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Conspiracy loons all over this im sure lol
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Ever watch myth busters? They have an episode where you would be stabbed to death from 60 feet away before you can draw a gun, take it off safety, and let alone fire accurately.
Look it up.
Damn Good Post.
Every Reason To Fear For Your Life.
If it Was The Other Way Round & Cops Were Unarmed
The 'In Fear Of Their Life' Line Would Be Believable.
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1. I disagree. for every police shooting, there are thousands of contacts that do not end in shootings. Which proves it is not the motto
1. Correct & that is as it should Be. We are Seeing The Shoot First Mentality More Often.
Now that there is a lot more video Recording Equipment in The Hands Of Public.
2. We'll have to disagree on this one.
2. What do you Disagree with.
A.These type of Police Shooting Happening or Rather Being Caught on Camera more & more Often.
B. The Loss Of Respect & Confidence in The Police.
C. The Police Being Open & Honest.
3. I agree with the concept, the reality is "on all the time" isn't practical. I agree cops should have in car cameras and body cameras. Strict policy on when it should be on, which in short, is any time they are in contact or about to be in contact with a citizen.
3. I fail to see why it is not Practical. It safe Guards The Police & Public.
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The cop added insult to injury by cuffing the dude after he unloaded his gun into him...Talk about fucked up...
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they didn;t know abouot the planting of the taser until the video came out - even though he tossed it there while cop #2 watched.
So cop #2 was never asked, or cop #2 quietly kept it to self... but tossing a weapon near a dead body that's still bleeding lol - usually that kind of 'disturbing the crime scene' should raise eyebrows with Cop #2.
If Cop #2 saw shooter toss weapon next to body, he should have alerted IA or whoever. That's a HUGE deal. Not saying anything - when you're a cop - is condoning the crime.
I looked for a copy of the police report on line. Hasn't been released yet far as I know. I don't know where you are getting your specific information from so please provide a link so I can educate myself on it. After I read it I may likely agree with you. Until then, I can't conclude he "planted" the taser there. If he and or the other officer's report addresses moving the taser then it's not planted. So while you may be right, it's not conclusive without knowing what they said if anything about it.
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fuck race.
asshole cop shoots person running away. it's that simple.
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if it were in another country, say UK, australia etc- that have strict gun laws it'd go like this..
guy runs off.. cops either chase and taser, or chase and apprehend, or dont chase.
if they dont chase- he gets away. they log his details and pick him up in follow up.
but because of the number of guns in the US, everything is heightened. the cops are shit scared of being shot. they are on edge.
everyone has their hands on the trigger ready to shoot. expecting people to make rational decisions under the stress of constantly being worried about your life is crazy.
and im not defending the cop here. yet people go to jail for acting in these stressful situations.
cue the pro gun lobbyists.
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The cop added insult to injury by cuffing the dude after he unloaded his gun into him...Talk about fucked up...
also lied about it in the police report that he performed CPR right away on him and never did
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Can you post responses outside the quoted posts, makes it easier to respond to them.
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also lied about it in the police report that he performed CPR right away on him and never did
I'd kill to read this report you guys have
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if it were in another country, say UK, australia etc- that have strict gun laws it'd go like this..
guy runs off.. cops either chase and taser, or chase and apprehend, or dont chase.
if they dont chase- he gets away. they log his details and pick him up in follow up.
but because of the number of guns in the US, everything is heightened. the cops are shit scared of being shot. they are on edge.
everyone has their hands on the trigger ready to shoot. expecting people to make rational decisions under the stress of constantly being worried about your life is crazy.
and im not defending the cop here. yet people go to jail for acting in these stressful situations.
cue the pro gun lobbyists.
good post
in the usa they genuinely dont know which person they stop is a shooter
must be on edge all the time
especially in high crime areas
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I'd kill to read this report you guys have
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html)
Email the New York TImes, im sure they will be glad to email it to you
"Police reports say that officers performed CPR and delivered first aid to Mr. Scott. T" -NY TIMES
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Can you post responses outside the quoted posts, makes it easier to respond to them.
I have spaced them out in the original post to make it easier for you.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html)
Email the New York TImes, im sure they will be glad to email it to you
"Police reports say that officers performed CPR and delivered first aid to Mr. Scott. T" -NY TIMES
A little different than your statement of "also lied about it in the police report that he performed CPR right away on him and never did "
It's missing the "right away" part which can make a big difference. A person only performs CPR on someone who is not breathing/no pulse. Right as the video is about to stop you see the officer reach down and try to find a pulse on the neck. Since the video cuts off, I don't know if he started CPR at that time or not.
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they didn;t know abouot the planting of the taser until the video came out - even though he tossed it there while cop #2 watched.
So cop #2 was never asked, or cop #2 quietly kept it to self... but tossing a weapon near a dead body that's still bleeding lol - usually that kind of 'disturbing the crime scene' should raise eyebrows with Cop #2.
If Cop #2 saw shooter toss weapon next to body, he should have alerted IA or whoever. That's a HUGE deal. Not saying anything - when you're a cop - is condoning the crime.
I just watched a 3min plus version of the shooting... If I'm "planting" a weapon on a subject, what would be the point in picking up the weapon and holstering it as this officer did with the taser? Wouldn't I leave it on the ground to be found by the crime scene personnel?
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I just watched a 3min plus version of the shooting... If I'm "planting" a weapon on a subject, what would be the point in picking up the weapon and holstering it as this officer did with the taser? Wouldn't I leave it on the ground to be found by the crime scene personnel?
the video cuts out, who is to say he didnt place it there again after cleaning off his finger prints ???
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It's not like he was going to write the Great American Novel.
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the video cuts out, who is to say he didnt place it there again after cleaning off his finger prints ???
He certainly could have.. will have to wait and see if that's the case. So far, the only claim made of planting a weapon is coming from the public based on the video and that certainly doesn't indicate it. If and when the police report is released, we'll know for sure.
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the video cuts out, who is to say he didnt place it there again after cleaning off his finger prints ???
Lol. Who's to say Xenu didn't show up toss them into a volcano. You have no credibility on this topic anymore.
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the video cuts out, who is to say he didnt place it there again after cleaning off his finger prints ???
The video also cuts out later, who's to say CPR wasnt performed? Looks like when it cuts back on, officers are attending to him. None of this makes the shooting any less bad.. let's be clear.. but accusations of planting a weapon/taser at this point is pretty premature in my opinion. We're assuming a lot
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I have spaced them out in the original post to make it easier for you.
Didn't help, when I click on it to respond, it's empty
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Lol. Who's to say Xenu didn't show up toss them into a volcano. You have no credibility on this topic anymore.
Volcanos in South Carolina ::)
boy are fucking dumb
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Volcanos in South Carolina ::)
boy are fucking dumb
Thick Nick trying to defend a cop who shoots a guy 5 times in the back and plants evidence. ??? :-\
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Thick Nick trying to defend a cop who shoots a guy 5 times in the back and plants evidence. ??? :-\
he thinks the guy sitting in prison with no bail is a good ol boy
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Thick Nick trying to defend a cop who shoots a guy 5 times in the back and plants evidence. ??? :-\
Wrong idiot. Go back and read.
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he thinks the guy sitting in prison with no bail is a good ol boy
Thick Nick believes its a good idea for cops to plant evidence. Thick Nick believes that cops are just doing their duty when they plant evidence. Thick Nick believes that planting evidence signifies cleverness. Thick Nick believes.
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Thick Nick believes its a good idea for cops to plant evidence. Thick Nick believes that cops are just doing their duty when they plant evidence. Thick Nick believes that planting evidence signifies cleverness. Thick Nick believes.
Thick Nick believes you can't read.
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I really do wonder about those who think the officer planted evidence. I guess facts don't matter for some.
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he thinks the guy sitting in prison with no bail is a good ol boy
Thick Nick is mad. Thick Nick always curses and screams and yells on getbig. GRRRRR. Thick Nick is big, strong powerlifter. This is what big, strong powerlifter do. They act mad and angry all the time. GRRRRR!!
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There are a lot of "If's" that need to happen before that is true
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I really do wonder about those who think the officer planted evidence. I guess facts don't matter for some.
Has any other reason came out why he dropped the taser right beside the guy?
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Has any other reason came out why he dropped the taser right beside the guy?
You hear any reason why he picked it up an holstered it?
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Has any other reason came out why he dropped the taser right beside the guy?
You read any REPORT where the officer SAID he found the taser next to the guy?
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Pretty good argument for why civilan oversight is a bad idea.. can't imagine some of the people here trying to sort through facts and leaving emotions at the door over a police shooting
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The video shows him drop the taser next to the guy. Why did he do that?
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It's not like he was going to write the Great American Novel.
or compose Beethovens 5th.
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(http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_15/967176/ws_21d713ac97c0ce379d3b23a3adcae87d.nbcnews-fp-320-240.jpg)
Two thumbs up for cell phone camera clarity! Bye, pig......
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Too much / many anti-cop, anti- American, terrorist sympathizers, uneducated, unintelligent, incoherent posts / posters on Getbig anymore. It is really sad. Time to move on I think. I just simply cannot deal with the utter lunacy anymore... because it's not just conspiracy stuff to laugh at... a lot of this stuff is real, deep seeded hatred for America etc. Already lost most of the normal, right thinking, white posters... this place has truly gone to shit with these threads.
And Shizzo is a mod. W T F.
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The Lawyer probably sensed that the cop was being dishonest with him. The Cop is in major trouble.
What? Are you stupid or something? Like a LAWYER would give two shits about being dishonest. ::) HE is probably the one in the first place to make up that story.
Believe me, there are no more filthy, corrupt and dishonest occupation than laywers. Scum of the Earth.
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What? Are you stupid or something? Like a LAWYER would give two shits about being dishonest. ::) HE is probably the one in the first place to make up that story.
Believe me, there are no more filthy, corrupt and dishonest occupation than laywers. Scum of the Earth.
Yeah, I thought he may have pulled out of the case because he couldn't even deal with the dishonesty. Unless he was behind the lies. Who knows.
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Yeah, I thought he may have pulled out of the case because he couldn't even deal with the dishonesty. Unless he was behind the lies. Who knows.
Lawyers only care about one thing: WINNING the damn case. ::)
They`ll make up all kinds of stories and excuses, but when they are faced with hard evidence like this, they put their tale between their legs and walk away like the filthy cowards they are...
I cant believe I have to say this, no getbigger should be this naive.... ::)
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To me getting taxed 40 % of each pay check is anti American. Do you agree?
You anti-cop, anti- American, terrorist sympathizers, uneducated, unintelligent, incoherent fuck! >:(
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To me getting taxed 40 % of each pay check is anti American. Do you agree?
Thick Nick believes we are all anti-American, yet has no problem with the corrupt government, who does not care about the American people, and are constantly trying to destroy America by filling their own pockets and greed. Yet, we are the ones who are anti-american.
Epic irony.
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The video shows him drop the taser next to the guy. Why did he do that?
obviously trying to set him up
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Slager then handcuffed his lifeless body before jogging back to where he had fired the shots to pick up an object from the ground - possibly the Taser.
The officer then returned to Scott where a second officer was on the scene. Slager can be seen on video tape appearing to drop an object next to the victim's body.
The footage also contradicted police claims that officers performed CPR on the suspect.
The parents of Walter Scott told the Today show on Wednesday that they wanted justice for their son.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11429860
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I watched the video a few times. I can't see the bullet wounds on the victim. I would've expected more blood. It goes to show how Hollywood over-dramatizes bullet wounds on a person, as they are being hit by bullets (in movies).
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Didn't help, when I click on it to respond, it's empty
Can you not Take Notes.
And then Reply.
I know, as that doesn't involve use of a Gun you don't know how to... :)
Before you get bent out of shape The Above is a Poor Attempt at Humour.
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I watched the video a few times. I can't see the bullet wounds on the victim. I would've expected more blood. It goes to show how Hollywood over-dramatizes bullet wounds on a person, as they are being hit by bullets (in movies).
dude died fast. blood stopped pumping pretty quickly. also the hollow points probably all stayed inside him after mushrooming.
hollywood does make it these massive garage-door size exit wounds.
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Dead guys family will get millions from the City as a result of this.
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Look at the distance this man is from the cop - back turned, running away. Look at that.
Taser (which cop tossed by the dead body) sitting at cop's feet during this shooting phase.
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I bet your cock got hard when that pig murdered that man.
Pig? Ah, all cops are pigs, forgot.
So you're cool with all blacks being ni66ers, right, you ignorant fuck?
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I read the Cops wife is 8 months pregnant. She must be a basket case.
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As Far as I Am Concerned
No Not All Cops are Pigs / Scumbags. Far From It.
And No Not All Black People are Scumbags & Deserve To Be Killed. Far From It.
And Not All Muslims are Terrorists. Far From It.
It Does Appear Though That A Mentality / Culture Does & Has Existed in Some
Cops To Shoot & Then Ask Questions.
We are Seeing This More & More Now With Virtually Everyone Having A Mobile Phone
To Record With.
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I read the Cops wife is 8 months pregnant. She must be a basket case.
This whole thing is a disaster.
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Pig? Ah, all cops are pigs, forgot.
So you're cool with all blacks being ni66ers, right, you ignorant fuck?
Why do you have so many gimmick accounts? Did you take your depression pills today?
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that guy wasn't running fast enough to catch a cold. Cop would have been able to catch him pretty easily. Heck, the runner looked winded when the bullets started striking him anyway.
Cop was angry and was punishing the fck out this this idiot that decided to run. I read on getbig the cop's wife was 8 months preggo. Let's see, angry cop, not getting laid, and just blows up on a guy when the taser doesn't get the results he wants.
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that guy wasn't running fast enough to catch a cold. Cop would have been able to catch him pretty easily. Heck, the runner looked winded when the bullets started striking him anyway.
Cop was angry and was punishing the fck out this this idiot that decided to run. I read on getbig the cop's wife was 8 months preggo. Let's see, angry cop, not getting laid, and just blows up on a guy when the taser doesn't get the results he wants.
Pride
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Look at the distance this man is from the cop - back turned, running away. Look at that.
Taser (which cop tossed by the dead body) sitting at cop's feet during this shooting phase.
That's not the taser ,watch the beginning of the video ,the black dude tossed the taser ,it landed about 6 feet behind the cop .
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Fucking idiot cop is going to the slammer. I feel sorry for all families involved, as I'm sure the cop leaves behind a family too. Damn shame, he had no business doing what he did.
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Fucking idiot cop is going to the slammer. I feel sorry for all families involved, as I'm sure the cop leaves behind a family too. Damn shame, he had no business doing what he did.
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lmao at all the cop haters wanking themselves into a frenzy
cause they finally have one where they are right
that cop should do life
fucking idiot
but the one percent doesnt prove the rule against he 99
like the armchair gangsters on here would have you believe
The whole department has a long history of this kind of behavior: http://www.salon.com/2015/04/08/it_wasnt_just_walter_scott_the_north_charleston_police_department_has_a_shocking_record_of_abuse_allegations/
It just took indisputable video evidence for the country to take notice.
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Lawyers only care about one thing: WINNING the damn case. ::)
They`ll make up all kinds of stories and excuses, but when they are faced with hard evidence like this, they put their tale between their legs and walk away like the filthy cowards they are...
I cant believe I have to say this, no getbigger should be this naive.... ::)
I think what SF1900 was saying was; the cop hired the lawyer BEFORE the video came out. The cop lied his ass off to the lawyer. Based on what he had heard (at that point), the lawyer thought that he could get an acquittal.
But....
Then, once the video footage was released; the lawyer realized that the cop had lied about everything. And the Lawyer also realized that there was no chance of winning the case. So, the lawyer bailed.
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I think what SF1900 was saying was; the cop hired the lawyer BEFORE the video came out. The cop lied his ass off to the lawyer. Based on what he had heard (at that point), the lawyer thought that he could get an acquittal.
But....
Then, once the video footage was released; the lawyer realized that the cop had lied about everything. And the Lawyer also realized that there was no chance of winning the case. So, the lawyer bailed.
This.
Thank you!
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obviously trying to set him up
or not
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or not
Why did he drop the taser near the guy?
Next thing youre going to be saying is the cop didnt shoot the guy in the back multiple times. ::) ::) ::)
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I read the Cops wife is 8 months pregnant. She must be a basket case.
If he kept his gun in the holster and pulled his cock out of the holster, he wouldn't be in this mess....
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Slager then handcuffed his lifeless body before jogging back to where he had fired the shots to pick up an object from the ground - possibly the Taser.
The officer then returned to Scott where a second officer was on the scene. Slager can be seen on video tape appearing to drop an object next to the victim's body.
The footage also contradicted police claims that officers performed CPR on the suspect.
The parents of Walter Scott told the Today show on Wednesday that they wanted justice for their son.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11429860
Video also shows Slagel tossing an item next to the police officers feet. I should assume he was trying to frame the officer.. but wait.. same video shows Slagel picking UP the item and placing it his taser holster.. which has to be the worst "planting" job known to date
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Look at the distance this man is from the cop - back turned, running away. Look at that.
Taser (which cop tossed by the dead body) sitting at cop's feet during this shooting phase.
uh... the taser is actually about 10 ft behind the cop Sherlock..
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uh... the taser is actually about 10 ft behind the cop Sherlock..
He dropped something by the body when he walked over.
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I think what SF1900 was saying was; the cop hired the lawyer BEFORE the video came out. The cop lied his ass off to the lawyer. Based on what he had heard (at that point), the lawyer thought that he could get an acquittal.
But....
Then, once the video footage was released; the lawyer realized that the cop had lied about everything. And the Lawyer also realized that there was no chance of winning the case. So, the lawyer bailed.
Cops are professional liars.....
If the good Samaritan hadn't recorded the murder, the pig would have lied his way to freedom, then watched his wife shit out a kid next month....life would be great.
Instead, he will be locked up (hopefully) for the rest of his life, unless he takes the coward's way out a perform a revolver root canal. Either way, his kid will know his father was a bullying, murdering, pussy.
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So what seems to be the problem? :D
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He dropped something by the body when he walked over.
It was likely the taser. It was by the body, it was by the other cop, it was in a secured place. The fact he picked it up and holstered it would indicate to me lacking his report where he talks about it.. that it wasn't intended to be planted. In retrospect, unless there was a chance a bystander would have access to the taser, he should leave it in place. However he just shot someone and probably wasn't thinking "crime scene" at that point. Again.. if the report says anything about Scott having the taser near his body, or running off with the taser then clearly he was trying to set him up. But more likely he picked it up, brought it over.. tossed it towards the other officer and the body.. then thought "Shit I don't want it to look like he brought it here, or screw up the scene I better pick it up". Again... bad shoot.. no doubt, screwed the pooch... but there isn't enough information as we speak,to conclude he was trying to plant the taser. Again.. he picked it up and holstered it.. not really consistant with planting a weapon
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You hear any reason why he picked it up an holstered it?
Ya...Other cop saw it was being videotaped and told him he's not covering for him on this one and to pick it up...
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I think what SF1900 was saying was; the cop hired the lawyer BEFORE the video came out. The cop lied his ass off to the lawyer. Based on what he had heard (at that point), the lawyer thought that he could get an acquittal.
But....
Then, once the video footage was released; the lawyer realized that the cop had lied about everything. And the Lawyer also realized that there was no chance of winning the case. So, the lawyer bailed.
They saw it was being videotaped as it was happening...The kid/guy who videotaped it will probably end up dead within a year.
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it'll be like ferguson, where they'll drag out releasing the inconsistent report for a year.
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Got to release those tapes anon...Fuck putting your name/handle behind it...
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it'll be like ferguson, where they'll drag out releasing the inconsistent report for a year.
If it's not, what will you complaint about next?
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Well shit that murder plan and simple. But let me ask you this if you reach for a cops gun and then drop it and run off and get shot. Would you still call it murder?
It one of those things. Is the simple act of reading for a weapon enough to use deathly force? I say so.
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Well shit that murder plan and simple. But let me ask you this if you reach for a cops gun and then drop it and run off and get shot. Would you still call it murder?
It one of those things. Is the simple act of reading for a weapon enough to use deathly force? I say so.
At the time you shoot the person, regardless of prior actions during a struggle, if that person isn't posing an immediate threat of serious injury or bodily harm or death to you or someone else, then you have no legal right to shoot them. Whether they tried to take your taser, gun, nightstick etc. Even if Scott was holding the taser or gun in his hand but running away, it would not be legal shoot in the instance we saw in the video.
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Well shit that murder plan and simple. But let me ask you this if you reach for a cops gun and then drop it and run off and get shot. Would you still call it murder?
It one of those things. Is the simple act of reading for a weapon enough to use deathly force? I say so.
Absolutely it would be wrongful use of lethal force....a cop should only use lethal force as a last resort when his life is in danger. In the situation you described, the perp is not an imminent threat to the police officer's life
We have a legal system for a reason. The role of a police officer within that legal system is to apprehend suspects and deliver them to the courts for sentencing. They are NOT judge, jury and executioner.
Only when there is no other option should they be drawing their gun and shooting the perpetrator
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It's not like he was gonna write Narrative of the Life of Fredrick Douglass.
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Absolutely it would be wrongful use of lethal force....a cop should only use lethal force as a last resort when his life is in danger. In the situation you described, the perp is not an imminent threat to the police officer's life
We have a legal system for a reason. The role of a police officer within that legal system is to apprehend suspects and deliver them to the courts for sentencing. They are NOT judge, jury and executioner.
Only when there is no other option should they be drawing their gun and shooting the perpetrator
on point
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THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY
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I heard the guy who did the filming talking on CNN awhile ago. Apparently there was a struggle prior to filming, officer had Scott on the ground at one point. Apparently Scott managed to break away, cop tried tasing him, didn't work out.. It seemed Scott was gassed when he was "running", cop didn't seem out of shape, or to be obviously out of shape.. in mid to large cities this scene plays out on almost any given day.. a cop with some experience should know about where his back up is coming from, how far away they are and... there were options most officers would do.
1. Chase him down again. Reengage. But..since he failed to control him the first time and his taser is not with him any longer..probably not the best option
2. Follow on foot behind until another unit arrives,(or he gasses and gives up) keeping him in sight.
3. (my favorite) Get back in your car.. follow him till he gives up.. (happens when gassed) or he leaves the roadway area out of your sight, then exit vehicle and continue on foot. If he remains parallel to the roadway (fence) follow until unit arrives.
Drawing my weapon and firing 8 shots while he is fleeing is just not something on the radar. Wouldn't even cross my mind where I would have to nix the idea.. which is why this seems so messed up to me
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on point
Funny I was just having this argument with a guy about a guy in Texas caught a man rapping his 5 year old daughter and he beat him to death. He tried to say he was wrong and took the law into his own hands. I argued that self defense is with in the law and he was not charged.
When it comes to cops self defense is one thing. This isn't judge dred. Cops can sentence you to death that's the job of the courts. They just enforce the law and bring you to the legal system for punishment if need be. But self defense can me a murky area. Laws differ from state to state
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The whole department has a long history of this kind of behavior: http://www.salon.com/2015/04/08/it_wasnt_just_walter_scott_the_north_charleston_police_department_has_a_shocking_record_of_abuse_allegations/
It just took indisputable video evidence for the country to take notice.
you know what the word allegation means i take it
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Just what Obama and minions want - they must be delighted.
Only thing I find rather infuriating is that this incident will be used as a further excuse for more black on white violence.
Leave the US while you can.
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Only thing I find rather infuriating is that this incident will be used as a further excuse for more black on white violence.
Leave the US while you can.
YEP. As if it wasn't out of control BEFORE these incidents. But of course our intrepid reporters aren't covering THAT.
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Funny I was just having this argument with a guy about a guy in Texas caught a man rapping his 5 year old daughter and he beat him to death. He tried to say he was wrong and took the law into his own hands. I argued that self defense is with in the law and he was not charged.
When it comes to cops self defense is one thing. This isn't judge dred. Cops can sentence you to death that's the job of the courts. They just enforce the law and bring you to the legal system for punishment if need be. But self defense can me a murky area. Laws differ from state to state
Don't create doubt where there isn't any.
Pig fucked up so bad his own department chief said he fucked up.
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At first sigh, all these pig over-reactions seem like isolated events, but no sooner do you scratch the surface, institutionalized racism rears its ugly head. Black folks have had to deal with this, silently, for many years. Too many years if you ask me.
See, to put it in historical context, the US had a defacto apartheid system in place until recently. Blacks weren't allowed to go to many places, and in fact were systematically forced into urban areas by exclusionary practices (sundown towns, verbal town mandates, et cetera). The only way for whites to be able to enforce these unwritten laws/rules was to ask the police to keep an eye on the African American population. Little by little, these completely whites-only police forces developed a nasty hostile stance towards black folks, and whites were perfectly fine with it.
In comes the internet and the ability of news to travel real time. All of a sudden Americans see themselves being criticized in RT, Aljazeera, BBC, et cetera; and seeing videos of rampant racist situations and realizing US media aren't showing them these images. Until now. All of a sudden we see pigs doing what they've done all their lives and we get white-boy mad.
The very society that fostered that kind of behavior just a generation ago, is suddently giving up on their police officer's nasty hostility. And it's happening so fast some racist pricks (including getbiggers) have been unable to adjust to the new normal.
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I heard the guy who did the filming talking on CNN awhile ago. Apparently there was a struggle prior to filming, officer had Scott on the ground at one point. Apparently Scott managed to break away, cop tried tasing him, didn't work out.. It seemed Scott was gassed when he was "running", cop didn't seem out of shape, or to be obviously out of shape.. in mid to large cities this scene plays out on almost any given day.. a cop with some experience should know about where his back up is coming from, how far away they are and... there were options most officers would do.
1. Chase him down again. Reengage. But..since he failed to control him the first time and his taser is not with him any longer..probably not the best option
2. Follow on foot behind until another unit arrives,(or he gasses and gives up) keeping him in sight.
3. (my favorite) Get back in your car.. follow him till he gives up.. (happens when gassed) or he leaves the roadway area out of your sight, then exit vehicle and continue on foot. If he remains parallel to the roadway (fence) follow until unit arrives.
Drawing my weapon and firing 8 shots while he is fleeing is just not something on the radar. Wouldn't even cross my mind where I would have to nix the idea.. which is why this seems so messed up to me
His testimony will either save or condemn the cop.
The dude that recorded the event seemed to be very level headed and well spoken. Calm. Very fair minded.
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Just what Obama and minions want - they must be delighted.
Only thing I find rather infuriating is that this incident will be used as a further excuse for more black on white violence.
Leave the US while you can.
White Power
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It's not like he was gonna write Narrative of the Life of Fredrick Douglass.
neither will the cop
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I heard the guy who did the filming talking on CNN awhile ago. Apparently there was a struggle prior to filming, officer had Scott on the ground at one point. Apparently Scott managed to break away, cop tried tasing him, didn't work out.. It seemed Scott was gassed when he was "running", cop didn't seem out of shape, or to be obviously out of shape.. in mid to large cities this scene plays out on almost any given day.. a cop with some experience should know about where his back up is coming from, how far away they are and... there were options most officers would do.
1. Chase him down again. Reengage. But..since he failed to control him the first time and his taser is not with him any longer..probably not the best option
2. Follow on foot behind until another unit arrives,(or he gasses and gives up) keeping him in sight.
3. (my favorite) Get back in your car.. follow him till he gives up.. (happens when gassed) or he leaves the roadway area out of your sight, then exit vehicle and continue on foot. If he remains parallel to the roadway (fence) follow until unit arrives.
Drawing my weapon and firing 8 shots while he is fleeing is just not something on the radar. Wouldn't even cross my mind where I would have to nix the idea.. which is why this seems so messed up to me
excellent post......and this was my problem with the Michael Brown shooting as well...why do cops let minor situations escalate to this???....like you said, the guy is 50 years old..HE CANT OUTRUN YOU....just follow him and wait for back up.....
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Just what Obama and minions want - they must be delighted.
Only thing I find rather infuriating is that this incident will be used as a further excuse for more black on white violence.
Leave the US while you can.
YOU FIRST
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At first sigh, all these pig over-reactions seem like isolated events, but no sooner do you scratch the surface, institutionalized racism rears its ugly head. Black folks have had to deal with this, silently, for many years. Too many years if you ask me.
See, to put it in historical context, the US had a defacto apartheid system in place until recently. Blacks weren't allowed to go to many places, and in fact were systematically forced into urban areas by exclusionary practices (sundown towns, verbal town mandates, et cetera). The only way for whites to be able to enforce these unwritten laws/rules was to ask the police to keep an eye on the African American population. Little by little, these completely whites-only police forces developed a nasty hostile stance towards black folks, and whites were perfectly fine with it.
In comes the internet and the ability of news to travel real time. All of a sudden Americans see themselves being criticized in RT, Aljazeera, BBC, et cetera; and seeing videos of rampant racist situations and realizing US media aren't showing them these images. Until now. All of a sudden we see pigs doing what they've done all their lives and we get white-boy mad.
The very society that fostered that kind of behavior just a generation ago, is suddently giving up on their police officer's nasty hostility. And it's happening so fast some racist pricks (including getbiggers) have been unable to adjust to the new normal.
Good post.....dead on
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At first sigh, all these pig over-reactions seem like isolated events, but no sooner do you scratch the surface, institutionalized racism rears its ugly head. Black folks have had to deal with this, silently, for many years. Too many years if you ask me.
See, to put it in historical context, the US had a defacto apartheid system in place until recently. Blacks weren't allowed to go to many places, and in fact were systematically forced into urban areas by exclusionary practices (sundown towns, verbal town mandates, et cetera). The only way for whites to be able to enforce these unwritten laws/rules was to ask the police to keep an eye on the African American population. Little by little, these completely whites-only police forces developed a nasty hostile stance towards black folks, and whites were perfectly fine with it.
In comes the internet and the ability of news to travel real time. All of a sudden Americans see themselves being criticized in RT, Aljazeera, BBC, et cetera; and seeing videos of rampant racist situations and realizing US media aren't showing them these images. Until now. All of a sudden we see pigs doing what they've done all their lives and we get white-boy mad.
The very society that fostered that kind of behavior just a generation ago, is suddently giving up on their police officer's nasty hostility. And it's happening so fast some racist pricks (including getbiggers) have been unable to adjust to the new normal.
Interesting post. But what about all the black on white crime that almost NEVER GETS COVERED? And certainly never gets covered outside the US (unlike these cop shootings). Seems there is a big problem here and maybe it is not the one we think.
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We all have to resist punching someone in the face daily, right?
Finally someone just comes out and says it. Amen.
Wrong idiot.
"I am not the idiot you're looking for."
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you know what the word allegation means i take it
the nature of the business itself makes claims of abuse and lawsuits common place. I wish the article would have compared the number of complaints with a similar city of that size and demographics to illustrate any disparity.
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His testimony will either save or condemn the cop.
The dude that recorded the event seemed to be very level headed and well spoken. Calm. Very fair minded.
I really can't see it saving the cop... I can't imagine anything he could say that would make that any more understandable.
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excellent post......and this was my problem with the Michael Brown shooting as well...why do cops let minor situations escalate to this???....like you said, the guy is 50 years old..HE CANT OUTRUN YOU....just follow him and wait for back up.....
I think the Michael Brown incident was different. That was pretty much in the hands of Michael Brown how it played out. Had Michael continued to run and was shot in the back, then I would say they were similar
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Just what Obama and minions want - they must be delighted.
Only thing I find rather infuriating is that this incident will be used as a further excuse for more black on white violence.
Leave the US while you can.
My local news has the story of course. The facebook comments aar 95% against the cop.
The 5% that support the cop are making comments like "shouldn't have ran" and "we didn't see the rest of the tape, what happened first". I clicked on their pages out of curiosity, and 100% of the time, they have some anti-obama stuff on their timeline, every single time.
I think there's some correlation between "supporting police" and "hating obama", which is odd, as they're both authority figures. Maybe it comes down to skin color, I dunno, but in this case, race seems very small. Cop is a hateful prick that gunned down a dude in broad daylight and fucked with evidence to shift blame. not much to say.
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Interesting post. But what about all the black on white crime that almost NEVER GETS COVERED? And certainly never gets covered outside the US (unlike these cop shootings). Seems there is a big problem here and maybe it is not the one we think.
yes but the difference is, all of those guys wind up in jail and they are not contested...everyone pretty much knows they are guilty
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My local news has the story of course. The facebook comments aar 95% against the cop.
The 5% that support the cop are making comments like "shouldn't have ran" and "we didn't see the rest of the tape, what happened first". I clicked on their pages out of curiosity, and 100% of the time, they have some anti-obama stuff on their timeline, every single time.
I think there's some correlation between "supporting police" and "hating obama", which is odd, as they're both authority figures. Maybe it comes down to skin color, I dunno, but in this case, race seems very small. Cop is a hateful prick that gunned down a dude in broad daylight and fucked with evidence to shift blame. not much to say.
sorry, got to call you out once again on the "fucked with evidence to shift blame" you lose credibility when you say that for all the reasons I outlined before. Don't be so obvious in your bias mister.
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Each case needs to looked at individually. There are some cases in which the police are often justified in their shootings and others in which they aren't. This seems to fall in the latter category.
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Each case needs to looked at individually. There are some cases in which the police are often justified in their shootings and others in which they aren't. This seems to fall in the latter category.
Couldn't agree more. And hopefully looked at by people without an axe to grind either way
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The question I have:
If the incident was not caught on camera, do you think the police officer would have lied or told the truth? :-\ :D
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Couldn't agree more. And hopefully looked at by people without an axe to grind either way
Unfortunately, people always think on emotion over reason. Those who hate cops will now claim that every shooting involving a cop is an example of police brutality. While people who defend cops on every case will continue to do so regardless of the increasing examples clearly showing cops behaving in a totally unacceptable manner (such as this one).
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The question I have:
If the incident was not caught on camera, do you think the police officer would have lied or told the truth? :-\ :D
Lied no doubt. Telling the truth would be admitting to murder.
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I really can't see it saving the cop... I can't imagine anything he could say that would make that any more understandable.
Yeah, the cop is going to prison for a long time. The only question is: for how long?
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Lied no doubt. Telling the truth would be admitting to murder.
Thats the issue right there. I agree that 99.9% of cops would have lied to avoid a murder charge. I cannot imagine any cop admitting he shot a guy 5 times in the back as he ran away.
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I just saw on CNN that a "Dash Cam" video will be released soon. Apparently the shooting isn't not visible... but we will see some additional footage soon
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Thats the issue right there. I agree that 99.9% of cops would have lied to avoid a murder charge. I cannot imagine any cop admitting he shot a guy 5 times in the back as he ran away.
Real case.. local cop-
Police have said that Kleinert was investigating a robbery at the Benchmark Bank on West 35th Street in Central Austin on July 26 when Jackson tried to open the bank’s locked door around 4 p.m.
Jackson, who was not suspected in the robbery, walked away but returned a minute later and tried to open the door again, drawing the attention of a bank manager. After speaking to Jackson, police have said the manager told Kleinert that Jackson had attempted to use the name of a bank customer employees knew wasn’t Jackson. Sources have told the American-Statesman that Jackson had the identification of at least one person that didn’t belong to him, and police have said that Jackson had possibly gone there to pass a forged check.
Kleinert then tried to question Jackson, who fled. Kleinert chased after Jackson and got a ride from a passing driver in his effort to find him. Kleinert and Jackson then got into a struggle under a nearby bridge, where Jackson was fatally shot in the back of the neck.
No weapon was found on Jackson.
Sources have told the Statesman that Kleinert told internal affairs investigators that he unintentionally fired the shot that killed Jackson. His weapon was drawn as part of his effort to subdue Jackson, according to sources, and Kleinert said a single round accidentally went off when he lost his balance and fell over.
--- No witnesses, just the Detective and the subject who is now dead. This cop could have said the subject went for his gun, a struggle insued, during the course of the struggle subject was on top of the officer, officer feared he was going to lose control of the weapon and shot suspect.... but he didn't. He is being indicted on manslaughter charges.. but he didn't lie.
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Real case.. local cop-
Police have said that Kleinert was investigating a robbery at the Benchmark Bank on West 35th Street in Central Austin on July 26 when Jackson tried to open the bank’s locked door around 4 p.m.
Jackson, who was not suspected in the robbery, walked away but returned a minute later and tried to open the door again, drawing the attention of a bank manager. After speaking to Jackson, police have said the manager told Kleinert that Jackson had attempted to use the name of a bank customer employees knew wasn’t Jackson. Sources have told the American-Statesman that Jackson had the identification of at least one person that didn’t belong to him, and police have said that Jackson had possibly gone there to pass a forged check.
Kleinert then tried to question Jackson, who fled. Kleinert chased after Jackson and got a ride from a passing driver in his effort to find him. Kleinert and Jackson then got into a struggle under a nearby bridge, where Jackson was fatally shot in the back of the neck.
No weapon was found on Jackson.
Sources have told the Statesman that Kleinert told internal affairs investigators that he unintentionally fired the shot that killed Jackson. His weapon was drawn as part of his effort to subdue Jackson, according to sources, and Kleinert said a single round accidentally went off when he lost his balance and fell over.
--- No witnesses, just the Detective and the subject who is now dead. This cop could have said the subject went for his gun, a struggle insued, during the course of the struggle subject was on top of the officer, officer feared he was going to lose control of the weapon and shot suspect.... but he didn't. He is being indicted on manslaughter charges.. but he didn't lie.
You often say, "A few bad cops does not mean that all or most cops are bad."
So, I will say, "A few honest cops does not mean that all or most cops are honest."
Works both ways.
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Don't create doubt where there isn't any.
Pig fucked up so bad his own department chief said he fucked up.
No he is wrong here it's pretty cut and dry. I'm just speaking in generalities
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Yeah, the cop is going to prison for a long time. The only question is: for how long?
Was just talking about this earlier with a couple friends. For me.. if it was possible to establish Slagel shot this man knowing full well he was wrong in doing so while firing, then lied to minimize what happened, I have no problem with the maximum possible sentence. He should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen and punished that much harder because he is a cop.
If it were established (not even sure it's possible) that psychologically he was in a mental state where he was experiencing tunnel vision and diminished capacity to make a judgement AND he was truthful about what happened to the best of his ability (high stress/adrenaline can affect recall) then I could see going easier than maximum. Second scenario is probably not as likely as the first but still waiting for all the information to come out.
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The question I have:
If the incident was not caught on camera, do you think the police officer would have lied or told the truth? :-\ :D
At what point did he find out it had been recorded?
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sorry, got to call you out once again on the "fucked with evidence to shift blame" you lose credibility when you say that for all the reasons I outlined before. Don't be so obvious in your bias mister.
I've watched the video a lot - my theory, and only my theory...
shooter picked up taser and tossed next to body.
Cop #2 points out someone is filming (cop 1 has tunnel vision, while cop 2 walks up and sees perimeter)
Cop 1 decides to pick taser back up and put back in its holster.
But there is nothing to explain tossing ANYTHING next to a dead body. That's a crime scene now.
They FIRED his ass... how often do departments do that?
They brought in the FBI on his ass... how often do departments do that.
His own lawyer publicly dissed him... that never happens.
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THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY
found it on the net...Not my work ;)
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The question I have:
If the incident was not caught on camera, do you think the police officer would have lied or told the truth? :-\ :D
The Hebrew would have went missing and probably never would have been found...Cop saw the guy videotaping him and threw a wrench in his spokes...When the mayor of NYC cleaned up the city by getting rid of bums and shit many years ago, some believe half to 3/4 of all the bums went missing for good. Never to be found again...
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Let's make bacon stripes out of this piggy
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At what point did he find out it had been recorded?
Cant answer that.
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The Hebrew would have went missing and probably never would have been found...Cop saw the guy videotaping him and threw a wrench in his spokes...When the mayor of NYC cleaned up the city by getting rid of bums and shit many years ago, some believe half to 3/4 of all the bums went missing for good. Never to be found again...
I believe you mean Mayor Guiliani. Where did you hear this from?
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I bet that Pig wasn't feeling DEM DuB RIMZ!
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I believe you mean Mayor Guiliani. Where did you hear this from?
he obviously made that up...I've been living in NY all my life and never heard of this.....Guiliani did rid the streets of beggars but the disappearance part sounds like sci-fi
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This Cop is going to have to grow eyes on the back of his head in prison. Being a former Cop in prison is bad enough, but being a former Cop who shot and killed an unarmed black man in a high profile case is going to be living hell for this guy.
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This Cop is going to have to grow eyes on the back of his head in prison. Being a former Cop in prison is bad enough, but being a former Cop who shot and killed an unarmed black man in a high profile case is going to be living hell for this guy.
I already asked this and was told he will be in protective custody.
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You often say, "A few bad cops does not mean that all or most cops are bad."
So, I will say, "A few honest cops does not mean that all or most cops are honest."
Works both ways.
Except mine makes more sense :)
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I've watched the video a lot - my theory, and only my theory...
shooter picked up taser and tossed next to body.
Cop #2 points out someone is filming (cop 1 has tunnel vision, while cop 2 walks up and sees perimeter)
Cop 1 decides to pick taser back up and put back in its holster.
But there is nothing to explain tossing ANYTHING next to a dead body. That's a crime scene now.
They FIRED his ass... how often do departments do that?
They brought in the FBI on his ass... how often do departments do that.
His own lawyer publicly dissed him... that never happens.
Except that.. isnt there video that is going to be released later? Can I assume it is dash cam? Should I assume if it is, the officer would already KNOW the video will show him picking up the taser? We are "Ifing" lke MF's here.. ;)
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Yeah, the cop is going to prison for a long time. The only question is: for how long?
I can't see him going for anything but one of the degrees of murder. If I were him, I'd try to whittle it down to 2nd degree murder with a sentence recommendation, and count myself lucky if I could get that.
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Lots of cities used one-way bus tickets as a means to get rid of people. But C.A.s in places that were common destinations started to catch on and sue the cities of origin.
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The question I have:
If the incident was not caught on camera, do you think the police officer would have lied or told the truth? :-\ :D
That is a very Good Question.
Sadly Chances are he would of lied,
And That is What is at The Root of The Cop Problem.
The Honesty is Disappearing.
He would of lied & Likely His Partner Too.
Thankfully it Was Caught on Camera.
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That is a very Good Question.
Sadly Chances are he would of lied,
And That is What is at The Root of The Cop Problem.
The Honesty is Disappearing.
He would of lied & Likely His Partner Too.
Thankfully it Was Caught on Camera.
Just curious, how do you conclude that in general, honesty among cops is disappearing?
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Just curious, how do you conclude that in general, honesty among cops is disappearing?
The same way that you conclude it probably isn't.
Opinion.
Based on my own interactions & of incidents like this & others that are caught on video.
One bad cop doesn't make them all Bad.
One Honest Cop doesn't make them all Honest.
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The same way that you conclude it probably isn't.
Opinion.
Based on my own interactions & of incidents like this & others that are caught on video.
One bad cop doesn't make them all Bad.
One Honest Cop doesn't make them all Honest.
Fair enough
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Except that.. isnt there video that is going to be released later? Can I assume it is dash cam? Should I assume if it is, the officer would already KNOW the video will show him picking up the taser? We are "Ifing" lke MF's here.. ;)
Again, you only need 60 college credits to be a cop. Some of them are not the brightest around. :-\ :-\
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Fair enough
Yes.
I thought so.
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For black folks, the USA has been a police state for 240+ years.
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I doubt the dash cam would catch something on the side of the road that far. Methinks cops know how far to walk to avoid that.
If not, then the camera will 'malfunction" just like the radio malfunctioned with Ferguson shooter. then the body cam malfunctioned in that other shooting at gas station.
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I doubt the dash cam would catch something on the side of the road that far. Methinks cops know how far to walk to avoid that.
If not, then the camera will 'malfunction" just like the radio malfunctioned with Ferguson shooter. then the body cam malfunctioned in that other shooting at gas station.
Cops seem very unfortunate in purchasing Sub Standard
& Malfunctioning Video Surveillance Equipment.
Perhaps They Should Invest In Better Quality Products.
To Safe Guard Themselves in Difficult Situations.
;)
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also the ferguson cop who *may have* wounded himself with a gun to enjoy early retirement/payout.
The body camera turned off right before the shooting, 2 other cops didn't see anyone, nobody found in area, no weapon... just shady as can be.
seriously, the "oops, I turned off my body camera" is the worst excuse ever.
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also the ferguson cop who *may have* wounded himself with a gun to enjoy early retirement/payout.
The body camera turned off right before the shooting, 2 other cops didn't see anyone, nobody found in area, no weapon... just shady as can be.
seriously, the "oops, I turned off my body camera" is the worst excuse ever.
Not for Someone on Here. ::)
They Probably have a very valid Reason why
& We are Not in possession of the Full Facts
Of the Case. And are not Qualified to have
A proper understanding of the Events.
And Cannot Possibly Understand the Work load,
Stress, Strain & Constant Fear for Their Lives
These Honest & True Heroic Cops Must
Work Under.
;) I'm being a wee bit Facetious.
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Cops seem very unfortunate in purchasing Sub Standard
& Malfunctioning Video Surveillance Equipment.
Perhaps They Should Invest In Better Quality Products.
To Safe Guard Themselves in Difficult Situations.
;)
sometimes cities can't or won't pay for good equipment until something bad happens, then they suddenly find the money to buy everyone body cams.
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I doubt the dash cam would catch something on the side of the road that far. Methinks cops know how far to walk to avoid that.
If not, then the camera will 'malfunction" just like the radio malfunctioned with Ferguson shooter. then the body cam malfunctioned in that other shooting at gas station.
Ah, so we're still playing the what if thingy.. Let me play 240 for a bit..but from the other view;
I think the cop shot the guy, was traumatized because he just capped a guy for no legal reason. He thinks "Dang, my taser is on the ground over there, what if some kids walk up on it? I better go get it" He trots back and picks it up. Doesn't holster it because he knows it's an important part of the situation and there are wires coming from the cartridge. Gets back to the main scene as the black officer is walking up and tosses the taser to the ground, in front of the other cop which happens to be a few feet from the body. There they can both keep an eye on it. After a minute he thinks "damn, I can't leave that there, people will think the subject brought it over here. It will give a false picture and look bad for the guy" so he then picks it up from the ground and places it in his holster.
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Ah, so we're still playing the what if thingy.. Let me play 240 for a bit..but from the other view;
I think the cop shot the guy, was traumatized because he just capped a guy for no legal reason. He thinks "Dang, my taser is on the ground over there, what if some kids walk up on it? I better go get it" He trots back and picks it up. Doesn't holster it because he knows it's an important part of the situation and there are wires coming from the cartridge. Gets back to the main scene as the black officer is walking up and tosses the taser to the ground, in front of the other cop which happens to be a few feet from the body. There they can both keep an eye on it. After a minute he thinks "damn, I can't leave that there, people will think the subject brought it over here. It will give a false picture and look bad for the guy" so he then picks it up from the ground and places it in his holster. His partner saw they were being filmed and said to him, "Oh crap, don't plant the evidence now, you're being filmed."
Fixed.
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also the ferguson cop who *may have* wounded himself with a gun to enjoy early retirement/payout.
The body camera turned off right before the shooting, 2 other cops didn't see anyone, nobody found in area, no weapon... just shady as can be.
seriously, the "oops, I turned off my body camera" is the worst excuse ever.
what are you talking about?
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Ah, so we're still playing the what if thingy.. Let me play 240 for a bit..but from the other view;
I think the cop shot the guy, was traumatized because he just capped a guy for no legal reason. He thinks "Dang, my taser is on the ground over there, what if some kids walk up on it? I better go get it" He trots back and picks it up. Doesn't holster it because he knows it's an important part of the situation and there are wires coming from the cartridge. Gets back to the main scene as the black officer is walking up and tosses the taser to the ground, in front of the other cop which happens to be a few feet from the body. There they can both keep an eye on it. After a minute he thinks "damn, I can't leave that there, people will think the subject brought it over here. It will give a false picture and look bad for the guy" so he then picks it up from the ground and places it in his holster.
You forgot the "and then he proceeded to give the victim mouth-to-mouth through he victim's penis". That would've added a little credibility to the story.
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Fixed.
It's my story, it ends the way I want it to.. I get the same rights 240 gets
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You forgot the "and then he proceeded to give the victim mouth-to-mouth through he victim's penis". That would've added a little credibility to the story.
not bad.. made me chuckle
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Again, you only need 60 college credits to be a cop. Some of them are not the brightest around. :-\ :-\
good point.....and that's in New York...in other places its a high school diploma
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My local news has the story of course. The facebook comments aar 95% against the cop.
The 5% that support the cop are making comments like "shouldn't have ran" and "we didn't see the rest of the tape, what happened first". I clicked on their pages out of curiosity, and 100% of the time, they have some anti-obama stuff on their timeline, every single time.
I think there's some correlation between "supporting police" and "hating obama", which is odd, as they're both authority figures. Maybe it comes down to skin color, I dunno, but in this case, race seems very small. Cop is a hateful prick that gunned down a dude in broad daylight and fucked with evidence to shift blame. not much to say.
Obama is, like many of his peers, definitely not an authority figure - but I understand... despots dare to dream.
Race has been The issue and will be climbing the ranks. Maybe the bacefook people felt better because the could go off on the "oppressive cops" and thus avoid any instigating remarks.
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This Agnostic guy is all over this thread like the usual guys on a race thread.
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This Agnostic guy is all over this thread like the usual guys on a race thread.
true...what I'd like to know is where's Archer?
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true...what I'd like to know is where's Archer?
Probably checking his compound perimeter and ascertaining supplies. He'll be back ASAP to set us all straight.
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This Agnostic guy is all over this thread like the usual guys on a race thread.
So, he's racist? Or is it a cop thing?
Also, where are you on Brown and/or Gardener, just for clarification?
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Dash Cam video.
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reason he stopped him is because the 3rd Break light is out ::)
the 3rd break light
3rd
::)
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To be fair, that Everlast song could drive anyone to kill....
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Dash Cam video.
Doesn't really help, but there is really no defending the first video.
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Scott ran because there was a bench warrant for his arrest. He owed over $18,000 dollars in back child support.
I guess he didn't want to go to jail. Now he is dead.
Never run. This isn't the movies......you won't get away.
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the way Walter was running, looks to me like he had the bubble guts , he was probably lactose intolerant and that whey protien shake in the morning he had was on its way out
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I gotta say; The cop seemed pretty cool during the initial conversation
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I gotta say; The cop seemed pretty cool during the initial conversation
You hear the cop running after Scott, then the cop says "stop or ill use the taser"!
Then you hear the cop following protocol by saying "Taser!, Taser!, Taser!" three times as he attempted to fire it.
who knows what transpired from that point, to the moment that the cop decided to pump 8 into a running Scott's back.
Trying to run has to be the worst thing a person can do. I think it triggers the officer's fight or flight instincts, and makes them think the person running could be a dangerous criminal.
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I gotta say; The cop seemed pretty cool during the initial conversation
He's a real take-no-shit kinda guy.
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He's a real take-no-shit kinda guy.
Watching the initial conversation; I would've never suspected that the cop would eventually end up unloading his gun on the driver.
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Watching the initial conversation; I would've never suspected that the cop would eventually end up unloading his gun on the driver.
Ditto. I thought it'd be a spray paint can.
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Watching the initial conversation; I would've never suspected that the cop would eventually end up unloading his gun on the driver.
Which makes what happens in between these two videos the real focal point. Was there a huge struggle? Did the cop genuinely fear for his life at some point?
In my opinion, shooting a fleeing man 8 times, and allegedly planting the taser closer to Scott's body deserves punishment on it's own.
Officers on this forum have said that cops are trained to end a threat, not shoot to wound, if the situation is deemed severe enough.
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Which makes what happens in between these two videos the real focal point. Was there a huge struggle? Did the cop genuinely fear for his life at some point?
even if he did fear for his life...
The cop has to be able to "turn off" the kill mode when the "deadly threat" is no longer present.
Even if the guy pointed a gun at the cop, and dropped it an ran, he can't waste him.
We know AT MOST it was an unarmed ass-whooping, and since the cop didn't have a scratch...
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Which makes what happens in between these two videos the real focal point. Was there a huge struggle? Did the cop genuinely fear for his life at some point?
In my opinion, shooting a fleeing man 8 times, and allegedly planting the taser closer to Scott's body deserves punishment on it's own.
Officers on this forum have said that cops are trained to end a threat, not shoot to wound, if the situation is deemed severe enough.
Video shows no threat, even if dude still had taser. Slam dunk.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=102892.0;attach=334314;image)
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Why run though? What good could possibly come from trying to run from the police? Either way you will end up in jail with more time tacked on, or in extreme cases such as this, dead.
Scott wins a Darwin award.
Cop is an idiot as well.
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reason he stopped him is because the 3rd Break light is out ::)
the 3rd break light
3rd
::)
I'm sure him being black while driving a Mercedes had nothing to do with it.
I once had the tail light in my XC90 broken for a full year until I had enough time to go and fix it.
Never got stopped for it. And I drove it every day.
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Why run though? What good could possibly come from trying to run from the police? Either way you will end up in jail with more time tacked on, or in extreme cases such as this, dead.
Scott wins a Darwin award.
Cop is an idiot as well.
It's genetic.
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He ran because he was afraid of that fix-a-ticket for the 3rd brake light being out
i got one of those about 4 years ago, cost me a total of about $180 once i left the court house , missed day of work, light bulb, getting a fucking asshole CHP officer to sign it, pay the fine , i would of booked too
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He ran because he was afraid of that fix-a-ticket for the 3rd brake light being out
i got one of those about 4 years ago, cost me a total of about $180 once i left the court house , missed day of work, light bulb, getting a fucking asshole CHP officer to sign it, pay the fine , i would of booked too
No, he was definitely getting arrested. The cop would have pulled up the fact that he had an outstanding warrant.
Running is pointless 100% of the time.
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Scott was a dumb guy.
But obviously that didn't give the cop the right to start blasting away. The cop just lost his patience and lost control. Once it got to a certain point, the cop just wanted to end the situation.
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Typical
And this is a problem because???
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Scott was a dumb guy.
But obviously that didn't give the cop the right to start blasting away. The cop just lost his patience and lost control. Once it got to a certain point, the cop just wanted to end the situation.
The cop deserves whatever a jury decides, but that doesn't take some of the blame away from Scott.
If he doesn't run, none of this shit happens.
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The cop deserves whatever a jury decides, but that doesn't take some of the blame away from Scott.
If he doesn't run, none of this shit happens.
Don't think anyone's questioning that.
Wait, I take that back. Forgot who we're dealing with here.
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The cop just lost his patience and lost control. Once it got to a certain point, the cop just wanted to end the situation.
Which is fine and dandy, but you shoot him in the legs and then call an ambulance.
You cannot shoot another human being in the back five or six times and then claim that you were just trying to end the situation.
Why must this EVEN need to be pointed out?
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Which is fine and dandy, but you shoot him in the legs and then call an ambulance.
You cannot shoot another human being in the back five or six times and then claim that you were just trying to end the situation.
Why must this EVEN need to be pointed out?
Cops will tell you that they don't shoot "to wound". But I agree with your second sentence.
The cops decision making was terrible. Scott's decision making was terrible.
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The cop deserves whatever a jury decides, but that doesn't take some of the blame away from Scott.
If he doesn't run, none of this shit happens.
Yeah, sure, the same way Hiroshima and Nagasaki wouldn't have been bombed to smithereens had they just moved them 25 miles to the north.
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Which is fine and dandy, but you shoot him in the legs and then call an ambulance.
You cannot shoot another human being in the back five or six times and then claim that you were just trying to end the situation.
Why must this EVEN need to be pointed out?
I agree with you man.
The cop simply lost it
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Yeah, sure, the same way Hiroshima and Nagasaki wouldn't have been bombed to smithereens had they just moved them 25 miles to the north.
I don't think that the cop was being a dick during the initial stop. But the cop would've had to arrest Scott with the pending bench warrant. And Scott obviously did not want to stick around for that.
Scott didn't realize that the cop that he was about to run from was VERY willing to start blasting away.
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Cops will tell you that they don't shoot "to wound". But I agree with your second sentence.
The cops decision making was terrible. Scott's decision making was terrible.
Again the situation was started and ended BY THE COP. And the circumstances, the beginning, what happened in the middle and the end was the USUAL same: White cop stops black person and at the end of the encounter the black person is dead and the white cop comes out of it unscathed. Had it happened once, it would've been OK, but it's the sheer amount of these seemingly "disinterested" killings that do not make it OK. And yes, I DO want cops, from now on, when they stop a black person, just as when they stop a white person, to better think sixteen hundred times before unholstering that gun. And if you do, shoot the man/woman in a non-vital body part so that we get to hear what a fucking racist pig the cop is.
He stopped this MAN because of a "broken brake light," which in cop talk really means "I stopped you because you are black".
The rest is bullshit and senseless prick-waving.
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Again the situation was started and ended BY THE COP. And the circumstances, the beginning, what happened in the middle and the end was the USUAL same: White cop stops black person and at the end of the encounter the black person is dead and the white cop comes out of it unscathed. Had it happened once, it would've been OK, but it's the sheer amount of these seemingly "disinterested" killings that do not make it OK. And yes, I DO want cops, from now on, when they stop a black person, just as when they stop a white person, to better think sixteen hundred times before unholstering that gun. And if you do, shoot the man/woman in a non-vital body part so that we get to hear what a fucking racist pig the cop is.
He stopped this MAN because of a "broken brake light," which in cop talk really means "I stopped you because you are black".
The rest is bullshit and senseless prick-waving.
White folks get pulled over for the same shit daily. Your prejudice is clouding your judgment. Cop didn't start anything; just didn't finish real strong.
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And yes, perjury is a problem with pigs.
Judges, prosecutors and lawyers even have a name for it.
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White folks get pulled over the same shit daily. Your prejudice is clouding your judgment. Cop didn't start it; just didn't finish real strong.
Who put the lights on and stopped a car because of a "broken brake light"? The pig.
But, ya know what? Knowing you, I'm sure you'll snowball this shit into a "well, had he not come from Africa illegally in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation huh?".
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Again the situation was started and ended BY THE COP. And the circumstances, the beginning, what happened in the middle and the end was the USUAL same: White cop stops black person and at the end of the encounter the black person is dead and the white cop comes out of it unscathed. Had it happened once, it would've been OK, but it's the sheer amount of these seemingly "disinterested" killings that do not make it OK. And yes, I DO want cops, from now on, when they stop a black person, just as when they stop a white person, to better think sixteen hundred times before unholstering that gun. And if you do, shoot the man/woman in a non-vital body part so that we get to hear what a fucking racist pig the cop is.
He stopped this MAN because of a "broken brake light," which in cop talk really means "I stopped you because you are black".
The rest is bullshit and senseless prick-waving.
And do you know why they do that? Because it gives them an excuse to check your background, to see if you are a criminal on the run.
I'd say that the cop was doing a good thing initially. He picked right, and the guy was wanted for a warrant.
Cops probably high five each other in the office, for getting lucky like that.
FYI: I have been stopped for a license plate light being out, and having my tint too dark as well.
Even had a police officer ask to search my vehicle for no reason. I had nothing to hide, and actually didn't mind that they were doing it.
If you follow the law, you usually have nothing to worry about.
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And do you know why they do that? Because it gives them an excuse to check your background, to see if you are a criminal on the run.
I'd say that the cop was doing a good thing initially. He picked right, and the guy was wanted for a warrant.
Cops probably high five each other in the office, for getting lucky like that.
FYI: I have been stopped for license plate light being out, and having my tint too dark as well.
Even had a police officer ask to search my vehicle for no reason. I had nothing to hide, and actually didn't mind that they were doing it.
If you follow the law, you usually have nothing to worry about.
Are you black?
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Are you black?
From the waist down.
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Who put the lights on and stopped a car because of a "broken brake light"? The pig.
But, ya know what? Knowing you, I'm sure you'll snowball this shit into a "well, had he not come from Africa illegally in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation huh?".
Already answered your stupid question. You're clearly not objective enough to discuss this rationally.
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I do find it quite sad that Scott was about to buy a Mercedes Benz...
....while owing over 18,000 in child support payments. I wonder how long it has been since his kid received money from Scott.
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From the waist down.
LOL
But white from the knees down (big calves)
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Already answered your stupid question. You're clearly not objective enough to discuss this rationally.
Ok, so you agree that even though you're being an irrational prick, you're hell bent on having a rational conversation. Beautiful.
It's like when a drunk person tries to have a normal conversation with another human being.
You are that drunk person.
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I do find it quite sad that Scott was about to buy a Mercedes Benz...
....while owing over 18,000 in child support payments. I wonder how long it has been since his kid received money from Scott.
They said since 2012 :-\
Also, I wouldn't believe what Scott was telling the officer. He was just trying to explain away why he didn't have proof of registration or insurance on the vehicle.
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What's sad is the cop has a wife who is 8 months pregnant. Gee, I can't even imagine what she is going through. :-\
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What's sad is the cop has a wife who is 8 months pregnant. Gee, I can't even imagine what she is going through. :-\
Exactly, if your pregnant wife can't stop you from going KKK on a guy... Society has a place for you: Jail.
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Ok, so you agree that even though you're being an irrational prick, you're hell bent on having a rational conversation. Beautiful.
It's like when a drunk person tries to have a normal conversation with another human being.
You are that drunk person.
The irrational one who doesn't understand probable cause and tosses "pig" around, yet expects to be taken seriously.
Yep, that's me.
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What's sad is the cop has a wife who is 8 months pregnant. Gee, I can't even imagine what she is going through. :-\
And his insurance is only going to cover her until the baby is born.
She will need a new baby daddy asap!
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And his insurance is only going to cover her until the baby is born.
She will need a new baby daddy asap!
she will probably go on welfare
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They said since 2012 :-\
Also, I wouldn't believe what Scott was telling the officer. He was just trying to explain away why he didn't have proof of registration or insurance on the vehicle.
I guess we will eventually find out if the title for the car was in Scott's name
(Not that it will change things for the cop that killed him)
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There was a similar case near my house a few years ago: Danroy Henry Jr; a Pace football player and a white police officer, Aaron Hess (aka "Rudolf" Hess) met at a bar and the black kid ended up dead.
Imagine this: You are with your friends at a bar having a few beers. A brawl ensues and someone calls the police. Danroy, knowing danger is imminent, goes outside and gets his car, which he parks right in front of the bar waiting for his friends.
All of a sudden cops show up (Mt. Pleasant + Pleasantville police,) Danroy has no idea what the fuck is going on, a cop starts hitting his car, he thinks someone is trying to attack him so he hits the gas. Dumbass "Rudolf" Hess (Pleasantville police) gets in front of the car and shoots to kill. Another cop (Mt. Pleasant police) hears the gunshots and starts shooting at Hess, who is also a cop.
4˝ years later, the judge lets this Hess asshole go free, even though a Mt. Pleasant cop indicated that Hess was the aggressor.
Hess is named Officer of the Year by the Pleasantville Police Department.
THIS is the shit that has to stop.
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And his insurance is only going to cover her until the baby is born.
She will need a new baby daddy asap!
I hope she finds the darkest guy in the state.
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There was a similar case near my house a few years ago: Danroy Henry Jr; a Pace football player and a white police officer, Aaron Hess (aka "Rudolf" Hess) met at a bar and the black kid ended up dead.
Imagine this: You are with your friends at a bar having a few beers. A brawl ensues and someone calls the police. Danroy, knowing danger is imminent, goes outside and gets his car, which he parks right in front of the bar waiting for his friends.
All of a sudden cops show up (Mt. Pleasant + Pleasantville police,) Danroy has no idea what the fuck is going on, a cop starts hitting his car, he thinks someone is trying to attack him so he hits the gas. Dumbass "Rudolf" Hess (Pleasantville police) gets in front of the car and shoots to kill. Another cop (Mt. Pleasant police) hears the gunshots and starts shooting at Hess, who is also a cop.
4˝ years later, the judge lets this Hess asshole go free, even though a Mt. Pleasant cop indicated that Hess was the aggressor.
Hess is named Officer of the Year by the Pleasantville Police Department.
THIS is the shit that has to stop.
What happened to Danroy?
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This is how Slapper thinks all white cops act.
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What happened to Danroy?
Danroy dead cause Danroy a dummy. Don't go drunk driving into cops causing them to blow out their knees, and you won't get shot. What would been a simple DWI turns into a death sentence.
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/westchester/2015/04/07/federal-charges-henry-shooting/25440287/ .
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What's sad is the cop has a wife who is 8 months pregnant. Gee, I can't even imagine what she is going through. :-\
cop was angry. This dipshit running away is driving a tricked out BMW and getting more ass than a seat on a city bus. Child support due and whatnot.
the cop probably drove a hyndai. his wife is 8 months preggo, so he's not even getting BJ, much less laid, at this point. He's making peanuts as a cop and blames obama for his hemorrhoids, not his lack of fiber.
When the two world collide, what happened is inevitable.
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This is how Slapper thinks all white cops act.
Yeah, offers nothing of value to the conversation. Too emotionally invested, no logic, like a chick.
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Man, the world is a fucked up place. :(
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#slowpeoplematter
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unarmed man
trained officer, handcuffs, pepper spray, baton, taser, and gun
seems the only one that should be in fear of his life is the person being detained nowadays
end of thread.
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The top defensive player on the #1 seed in the EAST... and his NBA season is over.
"Injured during arrest" by NYPD. ??? LOL unreal.
Video: Cops Throw Thabo Sefolosha To The Ground And Arrest Him
http://deadspin.com/cops-throw-thabo-sefolosha-to-the-ground-and-arrest-him-1696879611
ATLANTA — Atlanta forward Thabo Sefolosha will miss the Hawks’ final four regular-season games and the postseason because of a fractured right fibula and ligament damage suffered when he and teammate Pero Antic were arrested early Wednesday in New York.
The Hawks confirmed Sefolosha’s injury Thursday and said he will need surgery. The Swiss player was limping following the arrest.
“This is a very difficult situation for Thabo and our thoughts and support will be with him during his recovery,” Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer said in a statement. “We know that his approach and dedication will serve him well in his rehabilitation. Our team remains focused and will be prepared as we head into the postseason.”
Sefolosha’s attorney, Alex Spiro, said Wednesday the forward was injured during the arrest, which followed the stabbings of Indiana Pacers forward Chris Copeland, his girlfriend and another woman on the street near a Manhattan nightclub.
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Exactly, if your pregnant wife can't stop you from going KKK on a guy... Society has a place for you: Jail.
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Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....
What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.
It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.
When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.
Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.
It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?
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Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....
What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.
It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.
When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.
Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.
It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?
Without suspecting this on solid info, though, you can't simply open fire because the possibility exists that he's armed. Doesn't work that way. Fleeing suspect can certainly be dangerous, no doubt, but it doesn't justify lethal force without that threat being observed. Suspects flee all the time; they aren't gunned down for fleeing alone, however.
Probably just didn't wanna go to jail is all.
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Without suspecting this on solid info, though, you can't simply open fire because the possibility exists that he's armed. Doesn't work that way. Fleeing suspect can certainly be dangerous, no doubt, but it doesn't justify lethal force without that threat being observed. Suspects flee all the time; they aren't gunned down for fleeing alone, however.
Probably just didn't wanna go to jail is all.
Any officer that assumes someone is unarmed without actually having had the possibility to make 100% sure is not suitable for the job. I concur that the shooting was an excessive response, but am also of the opinion that noone would have batted an eye if let's say the officer was killed in pursuit.
Personally I differentiate between the suspect and the officer as such that; the suspect has more knowledge than the officer regarding weapons and intent, as you know what an officer has on his/herself and their capabilities. Whereas the officer is left having to anticipate and 'guesstimate' intent and potential threats. This combined with pretty much everyone being aware of incidents involving shootings by and of police officers at this stage, leaves me to question why anyone would would place themselves in a situation that could make them come-off as a potential threat.
Fleeing when your identity has already been confirmed is idiotic in every sense of the word, and really isn't worth risking your life for. In fact, it is a confirmation that you are aware that you've done something wrong. Knowing so, what right does one think they have to resist the system? My main issue is the apparent constant opposition of the police, a government institution instated to uphold the law.
There are 2 major issues right now; 1. being police transparency, and 2. the mindset, attitudes and perceptions of the police by the public.
Media and the public are claymoring for the first issue to be tackled, but personally I'm of the opinion that the second is much more needing of change.
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Any officer that assumes someone is unarmed without actually having had the possibility to make 100% sure is not suitable for the job. I concur that the shooting was an excessive response, but am also of the opinion that noone would have batted an eye if let's say the officer was killed in pursuit.
Personally I differentiate between the suspect and the officer as such that; the suspect has more knowledge than the officer regarding weapons and intent, as you know what an officer has on his/herself and their capabilities. Whereas the officer is left having to anticipate and 'guesstimate' intent and potential threats. This combined with pretty much everyone being aware of incidents involving shootings by and of police officers at this stage, leaves me to question why anyone would would place themselves in a situation that could make them come-off as a potential threat.
Fleeing when your identity has already been confirmed is idiotic in every sense of the word, and really isn't worth risking your life for. In fact, it is a confirmation that you are aware that you've done something wrong. Knowing so, what right does one think they have to resist the system? My main issue is the apparent constant opposition of the police, a government institution instated to uphold the law.
There are 2 major issues right now; 1. being police transparency, and 2. the mindset, attitudes and perceptions of the police by the public.
Media and the public are claymoring for the first issue to be tackled, but personally I'm of the opinion that the second is much more needing of change.
Possibly the dumbest 50 year old ever. His name and address was known.
He was running because of the $18,000 owed in back child support. I could understand him running if he was wanted for murder or kidnapping. But that was not the case.
Yeah, he would've spent the next day or two in jail. But he would've been bailed out. At his court date, the judge would order that his weekly paycheck would be garnished 10%-20%.
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Possibly the dumbest 50 year old ever. His name and address was known.
He was running because of the $18,000 owed in back child support. I could understand him running if he was wanted for murder or kidnapping. But that was not the case.
Yeah, he would've spent the next day or two in jail. But he would've been bailed out. At his court date, the judge would order that his weekly paycheck would be garnished 10%-20%.
both the officer and the suspect were idiots.......taking such minor matters and making them into something so serious
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both the officer and the suspect were idiots.......taking such minor matters and making them into something so serious
I agree.
Irresponsible.... On both sides of the equation
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Again the situation was started and ended BY THE COP. And the circumstances, the beginning, what happened in the middle and the end was the USUAL same: White cop stops black person and at the end of the encounter the black person is dead and the white cop comes out of it unscathed. Had it happened once, it would've been OK, but it's the sheer amount of these seemingly "disinterested" killings that do not make it OK. And yes, I DO want cops, from now on, when they stop a black person, just as when they stop a white person, to better think sixteen hundred times before unholstering that gun. And if you do, shoot the man/woman in a non-vital body part so that we get to hear what a fucking racist pig the cop is.
He stopped this MAN because of a "broken brake light," which in cop talk really means "I stopped you because you are black".
The rest is bullshit and senseless prick-waving.
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As much as i hate bad Police and have had issues before with them lying and losing in court to me, the stupid fuck reached for his taser, dropped it, and ran off. Also why are they not near a car?
Damm right the Police should be nervous around people like this guy when they are unpredictable.
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As much as i hate bad Police and have had issues before with them lying and losing in court to me, the stupid fuck reached for his taser, dropped it, and ran off. Also why are they not near a car?
Damm right the Police should be nervous around people like this guy when they are unpredictable.
I think you are interpreting it wrong....when you see the taser fall to the ground it may have been stuck in the guy and when he ran he jerked the taser out of the cop's hand..however, I could be wrong as well
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I don't think that the cop was being a dick during the initial stop. But the cop would've had to arrest Scott with the pending bench warrant. And Scott obviously did not want to stick around for that.
Scott didn't realize that the cop that he was about to run from was VERY willing to start blasting away.
Yes, and I'm not sure the cop knew he was very willing to start blasting away.. until he did.
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Which is fine and dandy, but you shoot him in the legs and then call an ambulance.
You cannot shoot another human being in the back five or six times and then claim that you were just trying to end the situation.
Why must this EVEN need to be pointed out?
Dude, go to a shooting range. Look at the target, there are no arms and legs on a target. You are taught "center mass". Shooting with a handgun in a high stress situation is hard enough as it is, limbs are hard targets to hit. Compound the issue that many officers have never drawn their weapons and shot someone. Most have only drawn their weapons to qualify on the range.
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I think a lot of people becoming cops because of the benefits it provides, with real no desire to serve and protect. You can retire after 20 years with a nice pension, benefits, etc. While youre on the force, you are part of a union, good medical coverage, annual raises, paid vacation, and as stated above, full pension after 20 years.
This definitely draws in people who are not bright enough to have jobs that require advanced degrees and cognitive skills.
I knew a kid in high school who was a bully. Not the brightest kid. Graduated high school, got 60 college credits by taking classes like Art appreciation, then became a cop. I mean, what else could he have done? Probably not much. However, he obviously needed a job, so become a cop. After 20 years, he is set with a nice pension.
Can you imagine if it was required that you needed a Masters degree to become a cop. 90% of the police officers would never make it. :-\ :-\ If this was the case, at least you'd have smarter cops.
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cop was angry. This dipshit running away is driving a tricked out BMW and getting more ass than a seat on a city bus. Child support due and whatnot.
the cop probably drove a hyndai. his wife is 8 months preggo, so he's not even getting BJ, much less laid, at this point. He's making peanuts as a cop and blames obama for his hemorrhoids, not his lack of fiber.
When the two world collide, what happened is inevitable.
You just love the fantasy game dontcha? ;)
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I think a lot of people becoming cops because of the benefits it provides, with real no desire to serve and protect. You can retire after 20 years with a nice pension, benefits, etc. While youre on the force, you are part of a union, good medical coverage, annual raises, paid vacation, and as stated above, full pension after 20 years.
This definitely draws in people who are not bright enough to have jobs that require advanced degrees and cognitive skills.
I knew a kid in high school who was a bully. Not the brightest kid. Graduated high school, got 60 college credits by taking classes like Art appreciation, then became a cop. I mean, what else could he have done? Probably not much. However, he obviously needed a job, so become a cop. After 20 years, he is set with a nice pension.
Can you imagine if it was required that you needed a Masters degree to become a cop. 90% of the police officers would never make it. :-\ :-\ If this was the case, at least you'd have smarter cops.
I do get a kick out of your perception of how dull witted officers are. You'd be surprised at the level of talent a department with competitive pay and opportunities gets. You'd also be surprised at the screening process the funded and supported departments get to do in order to pick from the talent pool. The days of the bubba jock are over my friend. Welcome to 2015. I think I would be willing to bet with you I could randomly go to any show up/roll call in our city, randomly pick out an officer, and they would go toe to toe with you on an IQ test.
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Dude, go to a shooting range. Look at the target, there are no arms and legs on a target. You are taught "center mass". Shooting with a handgun in a high stress situation is hard enough as it is, limbs are hard targets to hit. Compound the issue that many officers have never drawn their weapons and shot someone. Most have only drawn their weapons to qualify on the range.
why do you even bother?
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I do get a kick out of your perception of how dull witted officers are. You'd be surprised at the level of talent a department with competitive pay and opportunities gets. You'd also be surprised at the screening process the funded and supported departments get to do in order to pick from the talent pool. The days of the bubba jock are over my friend. Welcome to 2015. I think I would be willing to bet with you I could randomly go to any show up/roll call in our city, randomly pick out an officer, and they would go toe to toe with you on an IQ test.
haha, sure lol. Keep thinking that, buddy. Fact of the matter is that if a Masters was required to become a cop, you'd have a great reduction in cops, as many would not be able to meet that requirement. But keep telling yourself that cops are "hidden geniuses." haha lol Most cops don't even know the constitution or laws lol.
I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol
And for what its worth, IQ is probably not the best predictor of intelligence. But you're a genius cop. You should have known that. ??? ???
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Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....
What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.
It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.
When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.
Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.
It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?
While I agree with the majority of what you say, and your painting the picture of the plight the police face these days is spot on, I have to disagree with your conclusions that the actions of Scott lead to the shooting. The actions of Scott lead to a foot chase, to a ineffective deployment of a taser, to a physical altercation. It may have eventually led to charges of evading, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer... but they should NOT have lead to a shooting. At the moment Scott disengaged and turned to run, he took deadly force off the table
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haha, sure lol. Keep thinking that, buddy. Fact of the matter is that if a Masters was required to become a cop, you'd have a great reduction in cops, as many would not be able to meet that requirement. But keep telling yourself that cops are "hidden geniuses." haha lol Most cops don't even know the constitution or laws lol.
I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol
And for what its worth, IQ is probably not the best predictor of intelligence. But you're a genius cop. You should have known that. ??? ???
What makes you think a Masters would make a better cop? My wife has a Masters, you do NOT want her being a cop.. I think you put too much weight on education verses intelligence
Buddy... you are painting a picture they are slow witted high school drop outs. I'm not painting a picture they are hidden geniuses. I AM saying you are off base on your perception...not that it's the first time. Glad to know you know what most cops know about the constitution or laws. should I add an "lol" to appear smart? is that what that does?
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What makes you think a Masters would make a better cop? My wife has a Masters, you do NOT want her being a cop.. I think you put too much weight on education verses intelligence
Buddy... you are painting a picture they are slow witted high school drop outs. I'm not painting a picture they are hidden geniuses. I AM saying you are off base on your perception...not that it's the first time. Glad to know you know what most cops know about the constitution or laws. should I add an "lol" to appear smart? is that what that does?
You're going to stick up for cops no matter what. You can't be objective.
Lets be honest here. Most cops don't become cops because they TRULY want to serve and protect. They do it because they want that full pension after 20 years (and all of its other benefits), and being a cop is probably the easiest road to go down to get all of those benefits. Again, 60 college credits, which are mostly classes like Art Appreciation, and you're on your way to becoming a cop. Pass a physical and psych exam (and perhaps some other tests), and you're a cop. Like I said, the kid in my high school became a cop, and that is not saying much!! :-\ :-\ If he can do it, any dolt can. How this kid became a cop is beyond me. Sure, there are bad people in every profession, but it seems like anyone with half a brain can become a cop. Glad I never went down that road. Id choose firefighter or court officer over a police officer any day.
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You're going to stick up for cops no matter what. You can't be objective.
Lets be honest here. Most cops don't become cops because they TRULY want to serve and protect. They do it because they want that full pension after 20 years (and all of its other benefits), and being a cop is probably the easiest road to go down to get all of those benefits. Again, 60 college credits, which are mostly classes like Art Appreciation, and you're on your way to becoming a cop. Pass a physical and psych exam (and perhaps some other tests), and you're a cop. Like I said, the kid in my high school became a cop, and that is not saying much!! :-\ :-\ If he can do it, any dolt can. How this kid became a cop is beyond me. Sure, there are bad people in every profession, but it seems like anyone with half a brain can become a cop. Glad I never went down that road. Id choose firefighter or court officer over a police officer any day.
You're going to stick up for cops no matter what. You can't be objective. - I've already proven this false
Lets be honest here. Most cops don't become cops because they TRULY want to serve and protect. They do it because they want that full pension after 20 years (and all of its other benefits), -- Then lets be brutally honest.. you're talking out of your ass again
Glad I never went down that road. -- That makes two of us.
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haha, sure lol. Keep thinking that, buddy. Fact of the matter is that if a Masters was required to become a cop, you'd have a great reduction in cops, as many would not be able to meet that requirement. But keep telling yourself that cops are "hidden geniuses." haha lol Most cops don't even know the constitution or laws lol.
I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol
And for what its worth, IQ is probably not the best predictor of intelligence. But you're a genius cop. You should have known that. ??? ???
I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol -- No...just you ...lol
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Family of Walter Scott tells Rev. Al Sharpton to keep away; police release dash-cam video from cop Michael Slager’s cruiser
That was the message from the family of South Carolina police shooting victim Walter Scott to the civil rights activist Thursday two days before the funeral for the slain father of four.
“We don’t want another Ferguson type of circus here,” a source close to the Scott family told The Daily News.
That was a reference to the Missouri town that was rocked by violent demonstrations last year after black teen Michael Brown was killed by a white cop.
Sharpton gave a rousing speech at the 18-year-old’s funeral, which was attended by thousands.
Scott family attorney Chris Stewart said they appreciate Sharpton’s support but “the funeral is only going to be close family members.”
GUEST COLUMN: FEDS MUST FIND STATS ON BLACKS KILLED BY COPS
“The Reverend Al has called and expressed his support and condolences,” said Stewart. “The family is very appreciative.”
Sharpton said he has been in touch with the Scott family and their lawyers but insisted “we had no plans to go down.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-walter-scott-shot-dead-preparing-lawsuit-article-1.2179020
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Family of Walter Scott tells Rev. Al Sharpton to keep away; police release dash-cam video from cop Michael Slager’s cruiser
That was the message from the family of South Carolina police shooting victim Walter Scott to the civil rights activist Thursday two days before the funeral for the slain father of four.
“We don’t want another Ferguson type of circus here,” a source close to the Scott family told The Daily News.
That was a reference to the Missouri town that was rocked by violent demonstrations last year after black teen Michael Brown was killed by a white cop.
Sharpton gave a rousing speech at the 18-year-old’s funeral, which was attended by thousands.
Scott family attorney Chris Stewart said they appreciate Sharpton’s support but “the funeral is only going to be close family members.”
GUEST COLUMN: FEDS MUST FIND STATS ON BLACKS KILLED BY COPS
“The Reverend Al has called and expressed his support and condolences,” said Stewart. “The family is very appreciative.”
Sharpton said he has been in touch with the Scott family and their lawyers but insisted “we had no plans to go down.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-walter-scott-shot-dead-preparing-lawsuit-article-1.2179020
I don't necessarily dislike Al Sharpton. But that statement is most likely false. I bet that he had made plans to go there; and the vicitm's family said "no".
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I do get a kick out of your perception of how dull witted officers are. You'd be surprised at the level of talent a department with competitive pay and opportunities gets. You'd also be surprised at the screening process the funded and supported departments get to do in order to pick from the talent pool. The days of the bubba jock are over my friend. Welcome to 2015. I think I would be willing to bet with you I could randomly go to any show up/roll call in our city, randomly pick out an officer, and they would go toe to toe with you on an IQ test.
I'm sure that that is how it appears to you.
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I like that race is staying out of it. That clouds too many things with emotion.
Stick to the FACTS. Person is running away from cop, unarmed.
Cop fires at him 8 times, striking him 5 times, when person was 10+ feet away and fleeing.
Cop handcuffs him and gives no medical attention, even though he claims CPR on the report.
Keep skin color out of it. Cop shot someone he shouldn't have shot. Period.
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What makes you think a Masters would make a better cop? My wife has a Masters, you do NOT want her being a cop.. I think you put too much weight on education verses intelligence
Buddy... you are painting a picture they are slow witted high school drop outs. I'm not painting a picture they are hidden geniuses. I AM saying you are off base on your perception...not that it's the first time. Glad to know you know what most cops know about the constitution or laws. should I add an "lol" to appear smart? is that what that does?
Why do you even bother?
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I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol -- No...just you ...lol
That's the thing: I never claimed I was a genius or smart or can go toe-to-toe with anyone (I am not saying I am smart, I am not saying I am not smart. I make no claims). You're the one who claimed that cops all secretly have such great IQ scores. So, try again before you put words into my mouth.
Not too bright, are we? ;) ;)
Bicmc is probably the only smart cop out there!
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Bicmc is probably the only smart cop out there!
You just lost all credibility with that statement.
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Any officer that assumes someone is unarmed without actually having had the possibility to make 100% sure is not suitable for the job.
THIS is why I think pigs are out of control.
How can your job be "to serve and protect" those who, from the get-go, you have to assume are armed and ready to kill you. This takes away any legitimacy.
Close the doors and shut the lights on the way out.
This guy pretty much put the lid on this sucker.
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THIS is why I think pigs are out of control.
How can your job be "to serve and protect" those who, from the get-go, you have to assume are armed and ready to kill you. This takes away any legitimacy.
Close the doors and shut the lights on the way out.
This guy pretty much put the lid on this sucker.
Now take your head out of your ass and consider why an officer would have to have that type of mindset?
Pretty simple answer: You can't help anyone if you're injured or dead.
An officers first duty is to remain safe, to then ensure the safety of others. It has been proven countless times that people are unable to peacefully interact and comply with officers despite knowing full well they are in the wrong.
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How can your job be "to serve and protect"
Been a long time since the police actually did that. If you are in danger, they will only arrive AFTER the event has transpired.
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It's a vicious circle which will get more intense.
This case was murder(8 shots of peace) along with the nicotine suffocation issue(smoking kills after all).
Brown was justified and a bullet well put.
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A clear case of murder any way you slice it.
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Geraldo: Dashcam Video Gets Officer Slager Off His Murder Charge
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The dashcam footage released by North Charleston officials provides enough context about Officer Michael Slager‘s slaying of Walter Scott to get the cop off his murder charge, says Fox’s Geraldo Rivera.
Speaking with Fox & Friends, Rivera, a former attorney, said the video showed that the incident “started as a righteous traffic stop” because 50-year-old Scott was “acting very hinky and edgy” before bolting during the roadside exchange. This provides important context for the officer’s legal case, Rivera said (emphasis added):
There is reliable eyewitness account that there is then a struggle after the Taser. So, up until that point, the cop with his adrenaline pumping, now he’s been in a physical tussle, and now the perpetrator has reached for the Taser allegedly. Now it gives you the context of his blood boiling. [Officer Slager] has done everything professional and now he’s had this, this civilian has dared to physically have this altercation with the officer. Put that in the officer’s head now. I think it saves him from the murder rap.
The comfy couch hosts were stunned to hear him declare this wasn’t murder, and so Rivera clarified: “This is a horrible, horrible shooting, but there was no premeditation. This is manslaughter. I believe that this is manslaughter.”
When Steve Doocy mentioned how “one of the other morning shows on another channel” suggested Scott’s death was the result of police targeting black men — hoping for Rivera to shut down the race talk — the guest replied: “I don’t think there is any doubt that too many black moms fear cops when their kids go out more than they fear crooks.”
Doocy responded that “more white people are shot by cops than black people,” which prompted Rivera’s correction that he was speaking on the black community’s widespread perception, not statistics.
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Geraldo: Dashcam Video Gets Officer Slager Off His Murder Charge
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The dashcam footage released by North Charleston officials provides enough context about Officer Michael Slager‘s slaying of Walter Scott to get the cop off his murder charge, says Fox’s Geraldo Rivera.
Speaking with Fox & Friends, Rivera, a former attorney, said the video showed that the incident “started as a righteous traffic stop” because 50-year-old Scott was “acting very hinky and edgy” before bolting during the roadside exchange. This provides important context for the officer’s legal case, Rivera said (emphasis added):
There is reliable eyewitness account that there is then a struggle after the Taser. So, up until that point, the cop with his adrenaline pumping, now he’s been in a physical tussle, and now the perpetrator has reached for the Taser allegedly. Now it gives you the context of his blood boiling. [Officer Slager] has done everything professional and now he’s had this, this civilian has dared to physically have this altercation with the officer. Put that in the officer’s head now. I think it saves him from the murder rap.
The comfy couch hosts were stunned to hear him declare this wasn’t murder, and so Rivera clarified: “This is a horrible, horrible shooting, but there was no premeditation. This is manslaughter. I believe that this is manslaughter.”
When Steve Doocy mentioned how “one of the other morning shows on another channel” suggested Scott’s death was the result of police targeting black men — hoping for Rivera to shut down the race talk — the guest replied: “I don’t think there is any doubt that too many black moms fear cops when their kids go out more than they fear crooks.”
Doocy responded that “more white people are shot by cops than black people,” which prompted Rivera’s correction that he was speaking on the black community’s widespread perception, not statistics.
So what's the punishment for maximum manslaughter?
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In SC
"A person convicted of manslaughter, or the unlawful killing of another without malice, express or implied, must be imprisoned not more than thirty years or less than two years."
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In SC
"A person convicted of manslaughter, or the unlawful killing of another without malice, express or implied, must be imprisoned not more than thirty years or less than two years."
What does that translate to?
He serves 6 months to a year in jail and ends up with a few more years on parole?
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Geraldo seems right. South Carolina doesn't have a 2nd degree murder provision, which this could've gone under. It just has a singular murder charge that goes anywhere from 30 years - death.
This could go badly.
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Geraldo seems right. South Carolina doesn't have a 2nd degree murder provision, which this could've gone under. It just has a singular murder charge that goes anywhere from 30 years - death.
This could go badly.
if it goes badly, south Carolina will burn
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Now take your head out of your ass and consider why an officer would have to have that type of mindset?
Pretty simple answer: You can't help anyone if you're injured or dead.
An officers first duty is to remain safe, to then ensure the safety of others. It has been proven countless times that people are unable to peacefully interact and comply with officers despite knowing full well they are in the wrong.
I don't give two bucket-fulls of horse shit as to why an officer has to presume everyone's out to get them. That's not his fucking job! His job, if he/she wants to genuinely "serve and protect," is to presume everyone's innocence and let a judge or a panel of jurors decide otherwise.
How fucking difficult is this for you numbskulls to understand? Why, WHY, must someone on page 12,456 have to remind everyone the basics of our legal system? It's on a piece of paper. Oh wait, you don't read.
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if it goes badly, south Carolina will burn
Goodrum won't allow such nonsense.
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Goodrum won't allow such nonsense.
LOL
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The cop stealing in the bodega should be charged and fired. That's exactly what will happen. The only time you can shoot a guy in the back is if he has a weapon he can turn an use or if you he is a threat to commit something like murder again. To let you guys understand this here's an example. The cops found where a serial killer lives. They kick in the door and find bodies. The killer is seen with a knife in his hand but drops it running away. You can blast away at his back assuming he is a risk to commit more murders.
I don't know the circumstances of why he shot the guy running away but from him but it looks like a homicide and he will be found guilty.
A lot of cop hating on this thread from low lives that I assume have a lot of run ins with the law whether for criminal stuff or just traffic violations.
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I like that race is staying out of it. That clouds too many things with emotion.
Stick to the FACTS. Person is running away from cop, unarmed.
Cop fires at him 8 times, striking him 5 times, when person was 10+ feet away and fleeing.
Cop handcuffs him and gives no medical attention, even though he claims CPR on the report.
Keep skin color out of it. Cop shot someone he shouldn't have shot. Period.
I find it funny when you say "stick with the facts" and then state Slager planted evidence :)
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It's a vicious circle which will get more intense.
This case was murder(8 shots of peace) along with the nicotine suffocation issue(smoking kills after all).
Brown was justified and a bullet well put.
If things happened according to how the cop said it, then yes.
Parts of his story included "I didn't call it in because my radio malfunctioned" and "i was a little baby and he was godzilla" and then, he estimated a 150 feet chase to be 30 feet.
Maybe if there's a video of that shoot, we're in a whole 'nother spot right now. Look at this shooting - without a video? The cop is cleared 100%, we all know it.
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Been a long time since the police actually did that. If you are in danger, they will only arrive AFTER the event has transpired.
nope
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That's the thing: I never claimed I was a genius or smart or can go toe-to-toe with anyone (I am not saying I am smart, I am not saying I am not smart. I make no claims). You're the one who claimed that cops all secretly have such great IQ scores. So, try again before you put words into my mouth.
Not too bright, are we? ;) ;)
Bicmc is probably the only smart cop out there!
Now you're just lying.. :)
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A clear case of murder any way you slice it.
I'd say manslaughter for sure
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Alright. Manslaughterer.
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Geraldo: Dashcam Video Gets Officer Slager Off His Murder Charge
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The dashcam footage released by North Charleston officials provides enough context about Officer Michael Slager‘s slaying of Walter Scott to get the cop off his murder charge, says Fox’s Geraldo Rivera.
Speaking with Fox & Friends, Rivera, a former attorney, said the video showed that the incident “started as a righteous traffic stop” because 50-year-old Scott was “acting very hinky and edgy” before bolting during the roadside exchange. This provides important context for the officer’s legal case, Rivera said (emphasis added):
There is reliable eyewitness account that there is then a struggle after the Taser. So, up until that point, the cop with his adrenaline pumping, now he’s been in a physical tussle, and now the perpetrator has reached for the Taser allegedly. Now it gives you the context of his blood boiling. [Officer Slager] has done everything professional and now he’s had this, this civilian has dared to physically have this altercation with the officer. Put that in the officer’s head now. I think it saves him from the murder rap.
The comfy couch hosts were stunned to hear him declare this wasn’t murder, and so Rivera clarified: “This is a horrible, horrible shooting, but there was no premeditation. This is manslaughter. I believe that this is manslaughter.”
When Steve Doocy mentioned how “one of the other morning shows on another channel” suggested Scott’s death was the result of police targeting black men — hoping for Rivera to shut down the race talk — the guest replied: “I don’t think there is any doubt that too many black moms fear cops when their kids go out more than they fear crooks.”
Doocy responded that “more white people are shot by cops than black people,” which prompted Rivera’s correction that he was speaking on the black community’s widespread perception, not statistics.
I think He is probably right.. It wasn't premeditated. Manslaughter will likely be the final result
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In SC
"A person convicted of manslaughter, or the unlawful killing of another without malice, express or implied, must be imprisoned not more than thirty years or less than two years."
Except that there will be a Federal case for civil rights violation.. which you will serve every day of your sentence in the Federal system
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I don't give two bucket-fulls of horse shit as to why an officer has to presume everyone's out to get them. That's not his fucking job! His job, if he/she wants to genuinely "serve and protect," is to presume everyone's innocence and let a judge or a panel of jurors decide otherwise.
How fucking difficult is this for you numbskulls to understand? Why, WHY, must someone on page 12,456 have to remind everyone the basics of our legal system? It's on a piece of paper. Oh wait, you don't read.
the presumed innocent thing is a little vague.. If I presume someone innocent, why would I arrest them? Why would they sit in jail until trial often times? If someone is swinging at me.. it's a little tough to presume them innocent of attempting to assault me.. can you expound? Because I think "presumed innocent" mainly deals with the burden of proving guilt at trial
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If things happened according to how the cop said it, then yes.
Parts of his story included "I didn't call it in because my radio malfunctioned" and "i was a little baby and he was godzilla" and then, he estimated a 150 feet chase to be 30 feet.
Maybe if there's a video of that shoot, we're in a whole 'nother spot right now. Look at this shooting - without a video? The cop is cleared 100%, we all know it.
Thanks to independent witnesses and physical evidence in that particular case
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Thanks to independent witnesses and physical evidence in that particular case
physical evidence actually countered what the cop said.
Blood evidence showed after being hit, he ran 150 feet to shoot again. In his story, it was 30 feet.
Either he can't judge distance, got his bell rung very hard with the punch, or is lying. But the PD repeated that 30 feet lie over and over, KNOWING it was 150 feet. They wished to minimize how long the cop ran with the kill order in his mind.
Tough to justify wasting a fucker 150 feet from the original assault. They kept trying to connect the two. Cop got punched, made the decision to chase down and shoot Brown, and that's exactly what happened. With a video, the ending is WAY different, you can bet on that. That's 1/2 a football field, this "injured" cop ran. Remember the PD leaking the "fractured orbital bone" lie over and over? Never happened.
Ferguson is another example of 1) cops exaggerating shit and 2) police dept perpetuating a known falsehood to pacify the public. Both of these practices can suck a dick.
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physical evidence actually countered what the cop said.
Blood evidence showed after being hit, he ran 150 feet to shoot again. In his story, it was 30 feet.
Either he can't judge distance, got his bell rung very hard with the punch, or is lying. But the PD repeated that 30 feet lie over and over, KNOWING it was 150 feet. They wished to minimize how long the cop ran with the kill order in his mind.
Tough to justify wasting a fucker 150 feet from the original assault. They kept trying to connect the two. Cop got punched, made the decision to chase down and shoot Brown, and that's exactly what happened. With a video, the ending is WAY different, you can bet on that. That's 1/2 a football field, this "injured" cop ran. Remember the PD leaking the "fractured orbital bone" lie over and over? Never happened.
Ferguson is another example of 1) cops exaggerating shit and 2) police dept perpetuating a known falsehood to pacify the public. Both of these practices can suck a dick.
240 is Back on top of his measurements
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240 is Back on top of his measurements
;D
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physical evidence actually countered what the cop said.
Blood evidence showed after being hit, he ran 150 feet to shoot again. In his story, it was 30 feet.
Either he can't judge distance, got his bell rung very hard with the punch, or is lying. But the PD repeated that 30 feet lie over and over, KNOWING it was 150 feet. They wished to minimize how long the cop ran with the kill order in his mind.
Tough to justify wasting a fucker 150 feet from the original assault. They kept trying to connect the two. Cop got punched, made the decision to chase down and shoot Brown, and that's exactly what happened. With a video, the ending is WAY different, you can bet on that. That's 1/2 a football field, this "injured" cop ran. Remember the PD leaking the "fractured orbital bone" lie over and over? Never happened.
Ferguson is another example of 1) cops exaggerating shit and 2) police dept perpetuating a known falsehood to pacify the public. Both of these practices can suck a dick.
We discussed this on the Fergesun page. You still won't listen to reason.
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if it goes badly, south Carolina will burn
They'll burn shit anyway.
By burn I mean steal, of course.
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I don't give two bucket-fulls of horse shit as to why an officer has to presume everyone's out to get them. That's not his fucking job! His job, if he/she wants to genuinely "serve and protect," is to presume everyone's innocence and let a judge or a panel of jurors decide otherwise.
How fucking difficult is this for you numbskulls to understand? Why, WHY, must someone on page 12,456 have to remind everyone the basics of our legal system? It's on a piece of paper. Oh wait, you don't read.
That's a jury's job, dummy, not a cop's. Naive shit like that'll get you killed on the street.
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physical evidence actually countered what the cop said.
Blood evidence showed after being hit, he ran 150 feet to shoot again. In his story, it was 30 feet.
Either he can't judge distance, got his bell rung very hard with the punch, or is lying. But the PD repeated that 30 feet lie over and over, KNOWING it was 150 feet. They wished to minimize how long the cop ran with the kill order in his mind.
Tough to justify wasting a fucker 150 feet from the original assault. They kept trying to connect the two. Cop got punched, made the decision to chase down and shoot Brown, and that's exactly what happened. With a video, the ending is WAY different, you can bet on that. That's 1/2 a football field, this "injured" cop ran. Remember the PD leaking the "fractured orbital bone" lie over and over? Never happened.
Ferguson is another example of 1) cops exaggerating shit and 2) police dept perpetuating a known falsehood to pacify the public. Both of these practices can suck a dick.
You and 150, man. Let it f'n go. Brown is in a better place now. The cemetery.
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I wonder if anyone ever named their ice cream shop The Cream-atorium. And then they actually put dead people's ashes in the ice cream and fed them to the unsuspecting public. "Sprinkles?" That'd be some twisted shit.
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MY FAVORITE COP VIDEO...
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Without a doubt, I think we can all agree... Without a video of this recent shooting, the cop's story holds up and the cop is never charged. He paints the events his way, he claims they were closer, a taser found near body, and this goes down as a GOOD SHOOT. I think we can all agree on this. The bad guy is dead, the cop is a hero, and that's the end of it. Makes you wonder how often incidents like this happen.
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Without a doubt, I think we can all agree... Without a video of this recent shooting, the cop's story holds up and the cop is never charged. He paints the events his way, he claims they were closer, a taser found near body, and this goes down as a GOOD SHOOT. I think we can all agree on this. The bad guy is dead, the cop is a hero, and that's the end of it. Makes you wonder how often incidents like this happen.
What country/decade are you living in, dude?
The cop is white. Your "bad guy" here is black. Under no imaginable circumstances, regardless of how legit this shooting might have been, the officer would never have been considered a hero. Nor would it have been the end of it.
Ask Darren Wilson.
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Now what in the wide, wide, worlda sports is a goin' on here?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e3_1428698048
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Spectacular ruckus. One dead.
It's ok, though, dude was white.
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How come no seems to care that despite the substantial head start the White cop was able to out run and catch up to a fleeing Black man.
I've never heard of this happening before.
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How come no seems to care that despite the substantial head start the White cop was able to out run and catch up to a fleeing Black man.
I've never heard of this happening before.
Due to the hazardous and toxic multicultural environment, endangered whites are starting to aggressively adapt in order to survive the age of Tut-Ench-Obama.
Various gene transfusions by extra terrestrials are speeding up the process.
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That's a jury's job, dummy, not a cop's. Naive shit like that'll get you killed on the street.
You fucking dumb ass, don't take my comment out of context. READ.
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Without a doubt, I think we can all agree... Without a video of this recent shooting, the cop's story holds up and the cop is never charged. He paints the events his way, he claims they were closer, a taser found near body, and this goes down as a GOOD SHOOT. I think we can all agree on this. The bad guy is dead, the cop is a hero, and that's the end of it. Makes you wonder how often incidents like this happen.
No we can't all agree. CNN reported last night that there were already questions about his story among the cops prior to the video release and the investigation, both by state and federal, would have likely raised serious red flags
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What country/decade are you living in, dude?
The cop is white. Your "bad guy" here is black. Under no imaginable circumstances, regardless of how legit this shooting might have been, the officer would never have been considered a hero. Nor would it have been the end of it.
Ask Darren Wilson.
Good point
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You fucking dumb ass, don't take my comment out of context. READ.
You're too emotionally invested to think rationally, I'm afraid. Pretty apparent you've got some authority issues that haven't been fully resolved.
Let the grown ups discuss now, K.
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You're too emotionally invested to think rationally, I'm afraid. Pretty apparent you've got some authority issues that haven't been fully resolved.
Let the grown ups discuss now, K.
Your problem is that you can't READ.
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It's not about emotions, it's about having to deal with a guy with attention deficit disorder mixed in with a rampant case of reading comprehension.
Seems as though everything that is written weezes right through like there's nothing between your ears.
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the presumed innocent thing is a little vague.. If I presume someone innocent, why would I arrest them? Why would they sit in jail until trial often times? If someone is swinging at me.. it's a little tough to presume them innocent of attempting to assault me.. can you expound? Because I think "presumed innocent" mainly deals with the burden of proving guilt at trial
I didn't mean presumed innocence from the judicial standpoint, I was merely responding to someone else's insinuations that a good cop is a cop that approaches any stop assuming the person(s) in the car have guns and are ready to shoot.
If you think that way you should not be a cop.
Why, WHY! It's my fucking car! Why must I place my arms on the steering wheel so that the pig can see where my hands are? Should I take my pants off too and let him drill a hole in the back of my ass too?
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I didn't mean presumed innocence from the judicial standpoint, I was merely responding to someone else's insinuations that a good cop is a cop that approaches any stop assuming the person(s) in the car have guns and are ready to shoot.
If you think that way you should not be a cop.
I absolutely do think that way until I assess the situation. Keeps me healthy
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I absolutely do think that way until I assess the situation. Keeps me healthy
Ok, then you should find another job.
I don't go to work every day thinking that the folks around me are looking to embezzle funds or fuck the company we work for over.
If you presume the American in the car you just stopped has a gun and is ready to shoot you, then you are not serving and protecting that American citizen, which you sworn to do when you got your job.
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Ok, then you should find another job.
I don't go to work every day thinking that the folks around me are looking to embezzle funds or fuck the company we work for over.
If you presume the American in the car you just stopped has a gun and is ready to shoot you, then you are not serving and protecting that American citizen, which you sworn to do when you got your job.
you should just stay in your job. You have no clue then about mine. A traffic stop is one of THE most dangerous situation officers face. I could post a string of videos about what happens when you let your guard down approaching a vehicle on a traffic stop. I'm not advocating walking up with gun drawn.. I am advocating until you know who you are dealing with, you are better off assuming the worst. That's how ALL officers are trained, I agree with it. IF someone embezzles, you don't die
I am stunned at your cluelessness..and irrational thought process
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Now what in the wide, wide, worlda sports is a goin' on here?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e3_1428698048
;D. LOL. That was the stupidest Battle Royal ever.
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you should just stay in your job. You have no clue then about mine. A traffic stop is one of THE most dangerous situation officers face. I could post a string of videos about what happens when you let your guard down approaching a vehicle on a traffic stop. I'm not advocating walking up with gun drawn.. I am advocating until you know who you are dealing with, you are better off assuming the worst. That's how ALL officers are trained, I agree with it. IF someone embezzles, you don't die
I am stunned at your cluelessness..and irrational thought process
What about these stops? Are they dangerous? :D :D ;D ;D
(http://theantimedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cops-dunkin-donuts-21.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Cops_in_a_Donut_Shop_2011_Shankbone.jpg)
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What about these stops? Are they dangerous? :D :D ;D ;D
(http://theantimedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/cops-dunkin-donuts-21.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Cops_in_a_Donut_Shop_2011_Shankbone.jpg)
that's funny. you know the history behind donut shops and cops?
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you are better off assuming the worst
Good to know you admit you are not serving and protecting and that you think I am your enemy until you see my pearly whites and hands on the steering wheel.
Next time you stop me feel free to ask me if you can fuck my wife too.
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Nígga pleaze.
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Good to know you admit you are not serving and protecting and that you think I am your enemy until you see my pearly whites and hands on the steering wheel.
Next time you stop me feel free to ask me if you can fuck my wife too.
I think you are clueless. I think you have issues. I think I am wasting my time even attempting to converse with you on an adult level. That's pretty much what I think ;)
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I think you are clueless. I think you have issues. I think I am wasting my time even attempting to converse with you on an adult level. That's pretty much what I think ;)
It's not that you are wasting your time, it's that you are trying to explain something that cannot be explained.
It's not your fault either.
I'm against capital punishment altogether. That you actually shoot someone in the back is inexcusable in my world. And trying to explain the circumstances surrounding the cops decisions is inconsequential because the act of killing someone you are sworn to serve and protect prevents you from doing such a thing.
What is it YOU do not understand? Why must a civilian point THIS out to you?
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It's not that you are wasting your time, it's that you are trying to explain something that cannot be explained.
It's not your fault either.
I'm against capital punishment altogether. That you actually shoot someone in the back is inexcusable in my world. And trying to explain the circumstances surrounding the cops decisions is inconsequential because the act of killing someone you are sworn to serve and protect prevents you from doing such a thing.
What is it YOU do not understand? Why must a civilian point THIS out to you?
I read "Blah blah blah blah...." sorry..it's just not making sense to me
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I read "Blah blah blah blah...." sorry..it's just not making sense to me
Of course.
After all, another pig in the pigsty. I bet you understand that.
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Of course.
After all, another pig in the pigsty. I bet you understand that.
No.. just "blah blah blah..." sorry.. :-\
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No.. just "blah blah blah..." sorry.. :-\
Tell your gun to be careful.
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that's funny. you know the history behind donut shops and cops?
Nope.
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Nope.
Years ago.. cops working the night shift had limited places to get coffee. There weren't the 24 hr places there are now so the Donut shops were it.. kinda became a tradition. I can't tell you the last time I've been in a donut shop but there are IHOPs and a few other places open 24 hrs these days.
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Years ago.. cops working the night shift had limited places to get coffee. There weren't the 24 hr places there are now so the Donut shops were it.. kinda became a tradition. I can't tell you the last time I've been in a donut shop but there are IHOPs and a few other places open 24 hrs these days.
I thought it would have been a much cooler story like:
Cops are notorious for shaken down donut shops for money because they were open 24/7.
That story would have actually been more believable. :D :D
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I thought it would have been a much cooler story like:
Cops are notorious for shaken down donut shops for money because they were open 24/7.
That story would have actually been more believable. :D :D
I want a do-over... I can make it more exciting, I promise!
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This poor getbigger is shot and killed while in fucking handcuffs and the officer was not indicted!
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Years ago.. cops working the night shift had limited places to get coffee. There weren't the 24 hr places there are now so the Donut shops were it.. kinda became a tradition. I can't tell you the last time I've been in a donut shop but there are IHOPs and a few other places open 24 hrs these days.
years ago, Dunkin Donuts would staff their shops with young single good lucking girls. The girls were scared at night and would encourage the officers to stick around by openly flirting with them..
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This poor getbigger is shot and killed while in fucking handcuffs and the officer was not indicted!
Cop's side - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/daniel-saenz-fatal-shooting-video_n_5507701.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular .
Still from video that shows bump -
(http://i1.huffpost.com/gen/1862585/thumbs/n-DANIEL-SAENZ-large.jpg).
Original Getbig thread -
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=539719.0 .
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years ago, Dunkin Donuts would staff their shops with young single good lucking girls. The girls were scared at night and would encourage the officers to stick around by openly flirting with them..
Some chicks are really into cops, too. There's a certain type of female personality that's like that.
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he obviously made that up...I've been living in NY all my life and never heard of this.....Guiliani did rid the streets of beggars but the disappearance part sounds like sci-fi
The BBC was going to release a documentary on where all the bums went...But it got squashed. lmao at because you live in NY that you would know everything about what's gone on in NYC...You probably told people who worked in the twin towers to stay home on 9/11 because you knew what was going to happen :-\
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Your problem is that you can't READ.
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It's not about emotions, it's about having to deal with a guy with attention deficit disorder mixed in with a rampant case of reading comprehension.
Seems as though everything that is written weezes right through like there's nothing between your ears.
Yeah, just too unreasonable - and hysterical, really - for any honest contribution to objective discourse. Seems you'd be much better served by simply asking the officer who fucked your sister for an apology.
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Yeah, just too unreasonable - and hysterical, really - for any honest contribution to objective discourse. Seems you'd be much better served by simply asking the officer who fucked your sister for an apology.
"Objective discourse"? You probably don't even know what those words mean.
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Deadbeat dad. Traffic scofflaw. Taser grabber. Cop assault . A lifetime of bad decisions summed up in 60 seconds. we are each responsible for our choices in life and the bad ones tend to catch up with us.
Exactly. An utter and total fuck up of a creature. Dead, alive. No difference.
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Exactly. An utter and total fuck up of a creature. Dead, alive. No difference.
youre going way way overboard...people fall behind in child support all the time.....and dude..it was a traffic stop....come on..hardly evil
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Some chicks are really into cops, too. There's a certain type of female personality that's like that.
Badge Bunnies.
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Badge Bunnies.
The freakiest of them all.
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"Objective discourse"? You probably don't even know what those words mean.
I found the phrase on Wikipedia and it sounded smart.
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I found the phrase on Wikipedia and it sounded smart.
Good find.
Invaluable verbiage.
I've used it in every conversation so far today.
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At least this cop said he was sorry to the guy he shot before he died.
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At least this cop said he was sorry to the guy he shot before he died.
"He shot me, I didn't do shit"
Then why you running? ::)
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At least this cop said he was sorry to the guy he shot before he died.
That's a New one to me.
What had / was the man who got shot doing.
Why was the cop kneeling on his head if he
Was shot, not a clear video only he didn't
Appear to be struggling.
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Cop though he pulled his taser, but apparently it was his gun. Hence the "I'm sorry".
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Cop though he pulled his taser, but apparently it was his gun. Hence the "I'm sorry".
The best is when the guy said he couldnt breathe and the cop said, "Fuck your breathe."
To serve and protect. ::) ::)
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You should never be shot in the back unless you are posing a threat, i.e.reaching for weapon. This guy was posing no threat. He was retreating, NOT advancing. On the streets when you shoot someone in the back, that's considered a bitch move. You face your adversary and if he makes a move then you make yours. All the obvious facts considered in the video and what we know this cop murdered this guy in cold blood. His reason we don't know. Then we witness him lie and the police department lie (perhaps unintentionally) until the video shows up. This isn't an isolated event throughout this country. This happens often and gets covered up. Does it happen to whites and browns as well? I'm sure but I'm willing to bet it happens more to Hebrews disproportionately. Then we get into a chicken and egg argument about what's causing it, a different topic though. Add on top of that that the video shows he knows he was wrong when he moves the taser. He moved evidence which would greatly alter a case! He's done. This is not an isolated case.
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You should never be shot in the back unless you are posing a threat, i.e.reaching for weapon. This guy was posing no threat. He was retreating, NOT advancing. On the streets when you shoot someone in the back, that's considered a bitch move. You face your adversary and if he makes a move then you make yours. All the obvious facts considered in the video and what we know this cop murdered this guy in cold blood. His reason we don't know. Then we witness him lie and the police department lie (perhaps unintentionally) until the video shows up. This isn't an isolated event throughout this country. This happens often and gets covered up. Does it happen to whites and browns as well? I'm sure but I'm willing to bet it happens more to Hebrews disproportionately. Then we get into a chicken and egg argument about what's causing it, a different topic though. Add on top of that that the video shows he knows he was wrong when he moves the taser. He moved evidence which would greatly alter a case! He's done. This is not an isolated case.
gangsts shit cuz
seems the films I see is da bortherz going fifteen on one on some honky
aint no code their brah
those playerz be shooting every mother fucker in the back
you hear me cuz
word
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The best is when the guy said he couldnt breathe and the cop said, "Fuck your breathe."
To serve and protect. ::) ::)
A truly thoughtful & compassionate Cop.
He Probably got promotion for showing such fine honed skills.
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Coincidentally, Tulsa is the only place in the continental US to have sustained aerial bombardment.
In the spring of 1921, during one of those episodes of the country's history that's best not to talk about, gangs of white Tulsonians, helped no doubt by the local law enforcement teams, tried and failed in the forceful expulsion of the African American population in the city.
At one point during the event, planes from a local air base were deployed and the black neighborhoods were bombarded to smithereens, while gangs of gun-carrying whites massacred the retreating the African American Tulsonians.
White law enforcement officials, both police as well as military personnel, played an active part in the event.
But hey, race has nothing to do with what's going on nowadays.
It's all an imagination.
I'm white by the way.
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Coincidentally, Tulsa is the only place in the continental US to have sustained aerial bombardment.
In the spring of 1921, during one of those episodes of the country's history that's best not to talk about, gangs of white Tulsonians, helped no doubt by the local law enforcement teams, tried and failed in the forceful expulsion of the African American population in the city.
At one point during the event, planes from a local air base were deployed and the black neighborhoods were bombarded to smithereens, while gangs of gun-carrying whites massacred the retreating the African American Tulsonians.
White law enforcement officials, both police as well as military personnel, played an active part in the event.
But hey, race has nothing to do with what's going on nowadays.
It's all an imagination.
I'm white by the way.
nice history lesson......you should be commended..good job
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Badge Bunnies.
Badge bunnies provide a great service to society.
Pigs cheat. Pigs get caught. Luring dolt-like women to f*ck them through tales of false heroism, they are eventually found out by their wives. The result? Child support, alimony, and kiss half of that undeserved pension good-bye! Good times!
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On the streets when you shoot someone in the back, that's considered a bitch move. You face your adversary and if he makes a move then you make yours.
I dunno... if the name of the game is straight up survival, and I'm engaged in a gun battle where one of us is going to be killed before it's over... and my adversary turns back on me to run to a better position to shoot me, then it's totally cool to shoot him in that case. Not as honorable as the movies, but IF he gets to that advantage shot, he will shoot and I'm dead. So in real life, if it's a gun battle, you take any shot you can get.
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Cop on Paid Leave After Allegedly Tickling Body of Man (unarmed) Killed by Police
A California police officer has been placed on paid leave after he allegedly tickled and tampered with the dead body of a man who was shot and killed by police, according to the New York Daily News.
Lawyer Mark Geragos told the NYDN that the Bakersfield, California officer, Aaron Stringer, pulled on Ramiro James Villegas‘s toes and said “tickle tickle” while touching Villegas’s feet. He also allegedly told a trainee probationary officer that he “loved” to play with dead bodies, and tried opening Villegas’s mouth, according to KBAK.
“We are grossly disturbed by the ghoulish behavior of the police,” Geragos told the NYDN. “The family wants answers and accountability.”
The Bakersfield Californian newspaper published an internal report on Friday which detailed the allegations. Bakersfield Police Chief Greg Williamson called Stringer’s alleged comments “disturbing,” placing him on paid leave. According to that newspaper, the alleged incident occurred at a hospital as Villegas’s body was laying on a gurney.
Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/cop-on-paid-leave-after-allegedly-tickling-body-of-man-killed-by-police/
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Thug pig harasses decent, respectful, and totally sane driver over some stupid bullshit sign.
http://www.surenews.com/bizarre/when-stupid-people-think-they-know-their-rights/
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nice history lesson......you should be commended..good job
Any time.
By the by, back in those days, whites (no doubt aided by the police on many occasions) invading black communities was something usual.
Kind of like what is happening nowadays with ISIS in the Middle East, instead it happened right here in the US, all over the country, north and south. Lynchings, public illegal executions (pigs watching,) public burnings, et cetera.
Whites going mad. Like ISIS in the Middle East.
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Any time.
By the by, back in those days, whites (no doubt aided by the police on many occasions) invading black communities was something usual.
Kind of like what is happening nowadays with ISIS in the Middle East, instead it happened right here in the US, all over the country, north and south. Lynchings, public illegal executions (pigs watching,) public burnings, et cetera.
Whites going mad. Like ISIS in the Middle East.
Can you point me to a link which reports a public lynchings, with "pigs" watching, in the US?
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Can you point me to a link which reports a public lynchings, with "pigs" watching, in the US?
Look for it.
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Look for it.
If it were true you would be posting links all over the place and it would be huge news all over the world.
So you just made it up.
Typical. Just tell a blatant lie to support a view point that doesn't exist.
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Coincidentally, Tulsa is the only place in the continental US to have sustained aerial bombardment.
In the spring of 1921, during one of those episodes of the country's history that's best not to talk about, gangs of white Tulsonians, helped no doubt by the local law enforcement teams, tried and failed in the forceful expulsion of the African American population in the city.
At one point during the event, planes from a local air base were deployed and the black neighborhoods were bombarded to smithereens, while gangs of gun-carrying whites massacred the retreating the African American Tulsonians.
White law enforcement officials, both police as well as military personnel, played an active part in the event.
But hey, race has nothing to do with what's going on nowadays.
It's all an imagination.
I'm white by the way.
Why do you hate black people?
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If it were true you would be posting links all over the place and it would be huge news all over the world.
So you just made it up.
Typical. Just tell a blatant lie to support a view point that doesn't exist.
Did you even read what I posted? Did you even try? Just a little bit.
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Cop on Paid Leave After Allegedly Tickling Body of Man (unarmed) Killed by Police
A California police officer has been placed on paid leave after he allegedly tickled and tampered with the dead body of a man who was shot and killed by police, according to the New York Daily News.
Lawyer Mark Geragos told the NYDN that the Bakersfield, California officer, Aaron Stringer, pulled on Ramiro James Villegas‘s toes and said “tickle tickle” while touching Villegas’s feet. He also allegedly told a trainee probationary officer that he “loved” to play with dead bodies, and tried opening Villegas’s mouth, according to KBAK.
“We are grossly disturbed by the ghoulish behavior of the police,” Geragos told the NYDN. “The family wants answers and accountability.”
The Bakersfield Californian newspaper published an internal report on Friday which detailed the allegations. Bakersfield Police Chief Greg Williamson called Stringer’s alleged comments “disturbing,” placing him on paid leave. According to that newspaper, the alleged incident occurred at a hospital as Villegas’s body was laying on a gurney.
Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/cop-on-paid-leave-after-allegedly-tickling-body-of-man-killed-by-police/
Love playing with dead bodies?
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I think Slapper is E Kul. Remember him? The stupidity in this thread is beyond epic. It's embarrassing really. Slapper, SF1900, Andrei... What a fucking mess. I never thought I'd say this... The person with common sense in this thread is bigmc lol.
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I think Slapper is E Kul. Remember him? The stupidity in this thread is beyond epic. It's embarrassing really. Slapper, SF1900, Andrei... What a fucking mess. I never thought I'd say this... The person with common sense in this thread is bigmc lol.
Radical Plato is E-Kul.
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http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/explosive-revelation-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts-in-chest-and-legs/#
I looked over this page briefly. There are some things, like the possiblity the taser prongs were in the officer that I didn't think about. But even had they been, and even if the authors speculation that he fired because he 1. thought the prongs were still in him (possible) and 2. He didn't know Scott didn't have the taser (possible) my reaction would have been like many of the subjects tased in the past, pull the prong out, rendering the taser inefffective if deployed again, not shoot 8 times.
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http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/explosive-revelation-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts-in-chest-and-legs/#
I looked over this page briefly. There are some things, like the possiblity the taser prongs were in the officer that I didn't think about. But even had they been, and even if the authors speculation that he fired because he 1. thought the prongs were still in him (possible) and 2. He didn't know Scott didn't have the taser (possible) my reaction would have been like many of the subjects tased in the past, pull the prong out, rendering the taser inefffective if deployed again, not shoot 8 times.
The more I look into the situation I think there is a chance Officer Slager is going to come out this with a slap on the wrist rather than significant prison time.
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The more I look into the situation I think there is a chance Officer Slager is going to come out this with a slap on the wrist rather than significant prison time.
If every word and supposition in that article was accurate and completely true, I think it may mitigate the sentence, but still, I've tased enough people to know that in between the cycle (5 seconds each cycle) if the prongs are in a reachable area, if they are pulled out it renders the taser practically ineffective. So yes, it is a tense situation, yes his adrenaline is high, yes he just got tased or attempted tasing (again, not saying it happened, but if the article is true) you had a choice between pulling the prong out of your chest which takes 1/10 of a second, or drawing your handgun, taking aim, and firing 8 shots down range, 5 striking the subject and you pick door number 2, that's a hard sell.
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-guy-audio-recording
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That's a New one to me.
What had / was the man who got shot doing.
Why was the cop kneeling on his head if he
Was shot, not a clear video only he didn't
Appear to be struggling.
Cop totally said sorry, what more do you want?
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If every word and supposition in that article was accurate and completely true, I think it may mitigate the sentence, but still, I've tased enough people to know that in between the cycle (5 seconds each cycle) if the prongs are in a reachable area, if they are pulled out it renders the taser practically ineffective. So yes, it is a tense situation, yes his adrenaline is high, yes he just got tased or attempted tasing (again, not saying it happened, but if the article is true) you had a choice between pulling the prong out of your chest which takes 1/10 of a second, or drawing your handgun, taking aim, and firing 8 shots down range, 5 striking the subject and you pick door number 2, that's a hard sell.
First degree murder is going to be extremely difficult for the prosecution to prove if the officers own tazer was used being against him.
I think it would behoove the DA to go for a charge a little less extreme.
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First degree murder is going to be extremely difficult for the prosecution to prove if the officers own tazer was used being against him.
I think it would behoove the DA to go for a charge a little less extreme.
Murder was not a good charge to begin with. Manslaughter would be the appropriate charge. I am assuming the DA knew this going in, but bumped the charge in hopes of using it to his or her advantage during pre trial bargaining.
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If every word and supposition in that article was accurate and completely true, I think it may mitigate the sentence, but still, I've tased enough people to know that in between the cycle (5 seconds each cycle) if the prongs are in a reachable area, if they are pulled out it renders the taser practically ineffective. So yes, it is a tense situation, yes his adrenaline is high, yes he just got tased or attempted tasing (again, not saying it happened, but if the article is true) you had a choice between pulling the prong out of your chest which takes 1/10 of a second, or drawing your handgun, taking aim, and firing 8 shots down range, 5 striking the subject and you pick door number 2, that's a hard sell.
you go into tunnel vision mode when in combat
your ability to process reasonable thoughts is overtaken by fight or flight syndrome
after two minutes of fighting
unless you are a robot
you act first think later
its that simple
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you go into tunnel vision mode when in combat
your ability to process reasonable thoughts is overtaken by fight or flight syndrome
after two minutes of fighting
unless you are a robot
you act first think later
its that simple
You know Agnostic is a cop right? Im sure he has some of the best insight on what goes on in a cop's head during these situations.
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You know Agnostic is a cop right? Im sure he has some of the best insight on what goes on in a cop's head during these situations.
yes I do
so was I
he is trying to reason with idiots in this thread
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you go into tunnel vision mode when in combat
your ability to process reasonable thoughts is overtaken by fight or flight syndrome
after two minutes of fighting
unless you are a robot
you act first think later
its that simple
For the most part I agree with you. However, we are still held accountable for our decisions otherwise every time a cop gets into a fight he can just shoot the person and we can chalk it up to tunnel vision and fight or flight. Now I've never been tased by a suspect, don't know if Slagel was or not. But I have been in some down and dirty fights were bad guy was trying to take my duty weapon. I can pretty well put myself in Slagels shoes based on my experience. If fighting a suspect puts him in such a state that he will calmly draw his weapon and fire off 8 shots down range.. the guy has more than just manslaughter charges to worry about.
I'l also say again, that IF his report reflects pretty much what happened..taking the adrenaline and tunnel vision into account, I can see him not getting the maximum possible sentence. By all appearances he seemed like a cop trying to handle a traffic stop that turned into a foot pursuit and then a physical altercation. He made a really bad decision in the end which ended a life and no doubt screwed up his. But decades in prison for it wouldn't be justice.
But if it becomes apparent he tried to cover it up or lie about what happened... all bets are off
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Did you even read what I posted? Did you even try? Just a little bit.
How could I have responded and quoted your post without reading it.
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Radical Plato is E-Kul.
Easy to figure out.
American police need to learn more peacful tactics such as those used in Muslim countries.
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For the most part I agree with you. However, we are still held accountable for our decisions otherwise every time a cop gets into a fight he can just shoot the person and we can chalk it up to tunnel vision and fight or flight. Now I've never been tased by a suspect, don't know if Slagel was or not. But I have been in some down and dirty fights were bad guy was trying to take my duty weapon. I can pretty well put myself in Slagels shoes based on my experience. If fighting a suspect puts him in such a state that he will calmly draw his weapon and fire off 8 shots down range.. the guy has more than just manslaughter charges to worry about.
I'l also say again, that IF his report reflects pretty much what happened..taking the adrenaline and tunnel vision into account, I can see him not getting the maximum possible sentence. By all appearances he seemed like a cop trying to handle a traffic stop that turned into a foot pursuit and then a physical altercation. He made a really bad decision in the end which ended a life and no doubt screwed up his. But decades in prison for it wouldn't be justice.
But if it becomes apparent he tried to cover it up or lie about what happened... all bets are off
I think he is fucked
I think he executed the guy
but I think he wasn't thinking rationally at the time
should be a mitigating factor
maybe manslaughter instead of murder
or what ever the equivalent is in the usa
give people guns civilian or cop
and people get killed
if he only had non lethal options the outcome is the guy lives
and he gets to go on with his life
guns are too effective humans don't have the ability to use them wisely
we never have and never will
I get that it is enshrined within your constitution
but people are going to keep dying
its as simple as that
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I think he is fucked
I think he executed the guy
but I think he wasn't thinking rationally at the time
should be a mitigating factor
maybe manslaughter instead of murder
or what ever the equivalent is in the usa
give people guns civilian or cop
and people get killed
if he only had non lethal options the outcome is the guy lives
and he gets to go on with his life
guns are too effective humans don't have the ability to use them wisely
we never have and never will
I get that it is enshrined within your constitution
but people are going to keep dying
its as simple as that
A Excellent Post.
So True About the Guns.
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I get that it is enshrined within your constitution
but people are going to keep dying
its as simple as that
Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.
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Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.
Which is exactly why cops need them to even the playing field.
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yes I do
so was I
he is trying to reason with idiots in this thread
Excellent point.
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I think Slapper is E Kul. Remember him? The stupidity in this thread is beyond epic. It's embarrassing really. Slapper, SF1900, Andrei... What a fucking mess. I never thought I'd say this... The person with common sense in this thread is bigmc lol.
Fuck you.
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you go into tunnel vision mode when in combat
your ability to process reasonable thoughts is overtaken by fight or flight syndrome
after two minutes of fighting
unless you are a robot
you act first think later
its that simple
Hahahahaha......
You consider it combat when an aged, overweight, unarmed man is running from you and you shoot him dead in cold blood?
Did they teach you the tried and true "Act first, think later" method at the academy you attended?
Being too stupid to be a cop is like answering the phone when the Special Olympics calls. You say "Sorry, I cannot donate, as I've lost my security guard job." The person calling instead says "I'm sorry but we called to say that you didn't make the team.....again."
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He's going to walk!
lol http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/)
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I think he is fucked
I think he executed the guy
but I think he wasn't thinking rationally at the time
should be a mitigating factor
maybe manslaughter instead of murder
or what ever the equivalent is in the usa
give people guns civilian or cop
and people get killed
if he only had non lethal options the outcome is the guy lives
and he gets to go on with his life
guns are too effective humans don't have the ability to use them wisely
we never have and never will
I get that it is enshrined within your constitution
but people are going to keep dying
its as simple as that
He DID have non lethal.. he had a taser
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Which is exactly why cops need them to even the playing field.
Yes, the barn door has opened and the horses have left the barn
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So you saying that police should not be armed?
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It was either the black guy or the giraffe. You guys are impossible to please.
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So you saying that police should not be armed?
no
not while all the bad guys have guns
my point is with the proliferation of guns in the us and the fact that people shoot at cops a lot
cops are going to shoot people
and that by and large people will fuck up
especially in stressful situations
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its better to shoot too early than too late.
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How could I have responded and quoted your post without reading it.
Ok, so did you do a google search? The law enforcement-lynchings love affair is a well-known fact of the post-reconstruction period. I'm getting almost 500,000 hits. There's no way you can't inform yourself about what you're asking for me to do for you.
I can lead a horse to water...
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Slapper what do you think of pit bulls?
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This thread = ::)
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Ok, so did you do a google search? The law enforcement-lynchings love affair is a well-known fact of the post-reconstruction period. I'm getting almost 500,000 hits. There's no way you can't inform yourself about what you're asking for me to do for you.
I can lead a horse to water...
Post Reconstruction? I'm talking about what police approved lynchings happening today.
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(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/2015-04-13T23-10-23-966Z--1280x720.nbcnews-video-reststate-854.jpg)
Not really Smiling too much today the old fuck ;D
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_robert_bates_tulsa_county_jail_jc_150414_4x3_992.jpg)
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Post Reconstruction? I'm talking about what police approved lynchings happening today.
Thank you. See? Reading helps.
I was talking about the post-Reconstruction era and you took the comment out of context.
Ok? Can we move on now?
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(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/2015-04-13T23-10-23-966Z--1280x720.nbcnews-video-reststate-854.jpg)
Not really Smiling too much today the old fuck ;D
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_robert_bates_tulsa_county_jail_jc_150414_4x3_992.jpg)
Can he bring lubricant to jail? That 12'' black cock going up his ass is going to hurt.
Karma is such a frigging bitch, it's racist!
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Thank you. See? Reading helps.
I was talking about the post-Reconstruction era and you took the comment out of context.
Ok? Can we move on now?
Point taken.
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Whether it'd be in the constitution or not wouldn't have mattered a single bit.
The mere fact that guns exist means they'll be misused (in the broadest sense of the word, since it's designed to incapacitate/kill), and that is something that won't or even can't be changed.
I disagree. Of course now that guns exist there will always be some around but different laws can still change the situation A LOT. For example take a look at the different situation in Germany compared to the US.
In the US every hoodrat/ghetto thug has a gun and a lot of them carry them around. When the police stops a car they draw their guns, most police officiers will make use of their gun probably more than once during their carreer, in some areas even on a regular base.
In Germany on the other hand were owning a gun is a certain prison sentence it's very different. The only criminals who own guns are almost always organized crime and those rarely use it on regular people.
The common thug here in Germany simply does not need a gun since the people he is dealing with are not armed either. Hell even most knifes, batons etc. are illegal to own, yet alone carry around. You can go to the areas that are considered really tough and "ghetto" here in Germany and still barely no one carries a gun because the risk is too damn high.
I come from a big city that is considered a social hot spot with high crime rates and the main scene for the feud between Hells Angels and Bandidos and yet shootings are almost unheard of. A shooting might happen once a year or every other year and then it's a high possibility that organized crime was behind it. 99% of the police officers will never ever use their gun during their whole carreer, most will probably not even draw it.
So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.
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I disagree. Of course now that guns exist there will always be some around but different laws can still change the situation A LOT. For example take a look at the different situation in Germany compared to the US.
In the US every hoodrat/ghetto thug has a gun and a lot of them carry them around. When the police stops a car they draw their guns, most police officiers will make use of their gun probably more than once during their carreer, in some areas even on a regular base.
In Germany on the other hand were owning a gun is a certain prison sentence it's very different. The only criminals who own guns are almost always organized crime and those rarely use it on regular people.
The common thug here in Germany simply does not need a gun since the people he is dealing with are not armed either. Hell even most knifes, batons etc. are illegal to own, yet alone carry around. You can go to the areas that are considered really tough and "ghetto" here in Germany and still barely no one carries a gun because the risk is too damn high.
I come from a big city that is considered a social hot spot with high crime rates and the main scene for the feud between Hells Angels and Bandidos and yet shootings are almost unheard of. A shooting might happen once a year or every other year and then it's a high possibility that organized crime was behind it. 99% of the police officers will never ever use their gun during their whole carreer, most will probably not even draw it.
So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.
Good post.
Things could change in America.
It would take a huge turn around though.
And possibly like Germany it might be for the better.
There must be a good number of countries that lessons
Can be learnt from.
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So don't say the situation can't be changed because it can be changed. It's the law that makes it change and not the availability of guns since that's pretty much the same anywhere in the world .. if you want a gun you can get one, same with drugs or most other illegal stuff.
Wrong, it has all to do with accessibility and availability. Look for example at XTC, which is much more prevailant in Western-Europe than pretty much anywhere else, due to it beign manufactured in the Netherlands/Germany. Just like cocaine (higher quality/quantity) is more present in the drug scene in North-America due to its' geographic proximity to the producing countries.
Laws have never been able to prevent people from acquiring dangerous items/substances, simply because there is a market. Arguably the market for people wishing to own firearms is a lot larger than it is in Germany.
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Wrong, it has all to do with accessibility and availability. Look for example at XTC, which is much more prevailant in Western-Europe than pretty much anywhere else, due to it beign manufactured in the Netherlands/Germany. Just like cocaine (higher quality/quantity) is more present in the drug scene in North-America due to its' geographic proximity to the producing countries.
Laws have never been able to prevent people from acquiring dangerous items/substances, simply because there is a market. Arguably the market for people wishing to own firearms is a lot larger than it is in Germany.
Of course the availability does have an influence and might even be the most important factor depending on what we're talking about. But if you'd get a 5 year prison sentence for owning a single tablet of XTC I'm sure it would change things a bit ... and drugs and guns is a bit different anyway.
Why do you think there are so few guns in Germany if it's not the law? I can tell you that the availability is there just as there are tons of people who would love to have one .. I have to admit that I'm an absolute gun freak and I can assure you that the only reason why I don't own a basement full of guns is the law. If the law however was the same as for possession of drugs I would certainly go ahead and buy some guns...
I know that even in countries were you potentially face the death penalty for even personal use of drugs there is still more drug abuse going on there than you'd might expect but I think when it comes to drugs most people can't act rational. A smack junkie would do a lot to get his gear, you can't compare that to the wish to own a firearm.
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Of course the availability does have an influence and might even be the most important factor depending on what we're talking about. But if you'd get a 5 year prison sentence for owning a single tablet of XTC I'm sure it would change things a bit ... and drugs and guns is a bit different anyway.
Why do you think there are so few guns in Germany if it's not the law? I can tell you that the availability is there just as there are tons of people who would love to have one .. I have to admit that I'm an absolute gun freak and I can assure you that the only reason why I don't own a basement full of guns is the law. If the law however was the same as for possession of drugs I would certainly go ahead and buy some guns...
I know that even in countries were you potentially face the death penalty for even personal use of drugs there is still more drug abuse going on there than you'd might expect but I think when it comes to drugs most people can't act rational. A smack junkie would do a lot to get his gear, you can't compare that to the wish to own a firearm.
It's difficult to make a fair comparison between two countries. The ethnic make up and culture of the two countries are quite different. America is far more diverse both in ethnicity and culture. When one speaks of a German one has a pretty fair idea of what a German is. What is an American? You go to Venice, CA and then go to Arkansas and you might as be on a different planet. Hell, in America you can't even compare two cities let alone two States. For instance in Cali you can live in Rancho Palos Verdes, upper class city, and then drive six miles and be in Compton -- a totally different world.
You can pass all the laws you want but they don't not apply to criminals. Criminals by definition operate outside of the law
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You can pass all the laws you want but they don't not apply to criminals. Criminals by definition operate outside of the law
Sure but criminals still consider the potential consequences every time they break the law and most criminals in Germany made the decision
that it's not worth breaking the law to own a gun because the risk is just too damn high and if caught you will end up in jail for several years.
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Sure but criminals still consider the potential consequences every time they break the law and most criminals in Germany made the decision
that it's not worth breaking the law to own a gun because the risk is just too damn high and if caught you will end up in jail for several years.
Now we are talking a matter of degrees. Of course laws, consequences and punishment deters undesirable behavior. But not for everyone. Harden criminals are a very small proportion of the population but they make a disproportional impact.
You can completely ban gun ownership, like they do in Mexico. In fact, you can shut down all gun companies in the country. In "double" fact, you can ban all guns in the world. But it's still not going to stop the availability of guns.
There is something about this world that people are just not willing to accept. The "cosmic" battle between good and evil is never going to end. There will always be a perpetual state of conflict. There is no solution per se other than to allow the good guys to defend, protect and fight the bad guys. The way you stop a person with a gun is another person with a gun. It's already been shown that States that allow concealed carry have less gun crimes than States that don't. What house are you going to break into? A house that has a sign: "Ban Guns" or a house that has a sign: "Protected by Smith and Wesson". That why schools, a designated "gun free" zone is a better target than, say, a police station.
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Sure but criminals still consider the potential consequences every time they break the law and most criminals in Germany made the decision
that it's not worth breaking the law to own a gun because the risk is just too damn high and if caught you will end up in jail for several years.
Man I wish that were true..
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Breaking on Lawrence - Robert Bates - the pay to play killer 'deputy'
did not receive the required training.
Three supervisors were required to falsify his training record and were transferred after refusing to do so
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Breaking on Lawrence - Robert Bates - the pay to play killer 'deputy'
did not receive the required training.
Three supervisors were required to falsify his training record and were transferred after refusing to do so
Deceased felon's family just hit the jackpot, courtesy inept and incompetent resereve officer and good ol boy department. Oh, and the taxpayers..