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MANHUNT For Former LAPD Officer Named Suspect In Irvine Double Homicide -Woman Was Daughter Of Former LAPD Officer
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According to the Los Angeles Times, three police officers were shot early Thursday -- one fatally -- and authorities believe the suspect is a former Los Angeles police officer who wrote an online manifesto threatening to harm police officials and their families.
The suspect was already wanted for allegedly killing the daughter of a former LAPD captain as well as the woman’s fiance in Irvine over the weekend.
The three new shootings occurred in Riverside County. One LAPD officer was grazed in the Corona area, law enforcement sources said. Then sometime later, two Riverside Police Department officers were shot in Riverside. One of those officers died, sources said.
Police have launched a manhunt for the suspect, Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33.
Irvine police on Wednesday night named Dorner as the suspect in the double slaying in the parking lot of an upscale Irvine apartment complex Sunday. Officials warned that Dorner is armed and dangerous. Law enforcement sources said police have placed security at the homes of LAPD officials named in the manifesto and believe Dorner has numerous weapons.
READ THE MANIFESTO
In the online postings, Dorner specifically named the father of Monica Quan, the Cal State Fullerton assistant basketball coach who was found dead Sunday, along with her fiance, Keith Lawrence.
Randy Quan, a retired LAPD captain, was involved in the review process that ultimately led to Dorner’s dismissal.
A former U.S. Navy reservist, Dorner was fired in 2009 for allegedly making false statements about his training officer.
Dorner said in his online postings that being a police officer had been his life’s ambition since he served in the Police Explorers program. Now that had been taken away from him, he said, and he suffered from severe depression and was filled with rage over the people who forced him from his job.
Dorner complained that Quan and others did not fairly represent him at the review hearing. More at the Los Angeles Times
Dorner is described as 6 feet tall, 270 pounds and “likely armed and dangerous.” His last known address was in LaPalma.
Blue 2005 Nissan Titan Truck -License plate
If you know Dorner’s whereabouts, you’re asked to call
(949) -724-7**2
To email tips: ipdcrimet***@cityofirvine.org.
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Probably will try to flee to CANADA or MEXICO, hopefully the border guards have been notified!!!!
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an asian reporter Quan Lee approached a police officer for an interview , he drew his gun at her and asked her who she was and what she wanted .... an ASIAN REPORTER with a Camera
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This isn't about justice denied,it's about revenge. Shoot the fucker.
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Complete manifesto....
http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.
The question is, what would you do to clear your name?
Name; A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.
Name Synonyms; reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.
A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It’s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you’ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don’t let anybody tarnish it when you know you’ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.
In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (Christopher Gettler), Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. Villanueva/Gallegos), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”. Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that Evans had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.
During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.
The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While on a assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers Hermilio Buridios IV and Marlon Magana (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard Magana refer to another individual as a guy. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a guy again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer Burdios, a friend of his, also stated that he would say guy when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdios’ neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdios, “Don’t fucking say that”. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana’s skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective Ty from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers (John Carey, Gary Parker, Jacob Waks, Abraham Schefres and names I have forgotten) all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective Ty (same ethnicity as Burdios) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (Schefres complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against Burdios and Magana. Don’t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so called blue line. I hope your son Ryan Ty, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective Ty.The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer Burdios and Magana were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers guys to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension Buridios and Magana received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.
Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won’t, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a guy or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a guy on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a guy. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a guy. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as a equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don’t ever call me a fucking bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That’s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.
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Christopher Dorner a true American Patriot
Check out this Quote from the FuckWads at LAPD. "Yes, we trained him, but lets get it straight , he isn't one of us" - lapd police chief ::) ::). talk about not wanting to take some fucking responsibility for your trained officers
More from the manifesto
During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. Hernandez, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. Hernandez stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that’s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! Hernandez, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr. Gettler. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where Gettler’s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick Christopher Gettler.
What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70′s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. Teresa Evans was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with Teresa Evans, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, Dominick Fuentes, and herself. Dominick Fuentes is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not Dominick Fuentes, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. Evans, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when Randy Quan asked you if you kicked Christopher Gettler. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.
I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. Christopher Gettler who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. Joel Sydanmaa a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer David Drew stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. Donald Deming ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. Thaddeus Faulk, and Sgt. Ed Clark. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. Faulk and Sgt. Clark can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.
I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.
I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! Capt Phil Tingirides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Quan, and Sgt. Anderson all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. Teresa Evans career. I know about the meeting between all of you where Evans attorney, Rico, confessed that she kicked Christopher Gettler (excessive force). Your day has come.
I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.
Luckily I don’t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don’t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You fuckers knew Evans was guilty of kicking (excessive force) Gettler and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. Gettler himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. Tingirides, Eisenberg, and Martella all heard it. You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!
Look what you did to Sgt. Gavin (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You’re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.
Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.
From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.
Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. Teresa Evans and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. Gettler. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.
Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. Christopher Gettler? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.
The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.
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This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain Rolando Solano is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. Gettler in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).
No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.
For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.
Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.
Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.
I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.
Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.
Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2′s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.
Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.
Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.
Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well.
Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.
Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.
Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.
You allow an officer, Thaniya Sungruenyos, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. Zolezzi shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. Zolezzi provided the evidence and you still do nothing.
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”.
No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and an substantial vetting in a backround investigation.
To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf’s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.
Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(Quan). He doesn’t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.
I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.
I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.
Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.
Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.
The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.
You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP’s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.
Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation. I will harm no outside agency unless it is a deadly force/IDOL situation. With today’s budgeting and fiscal mess, you guys can not afford lose several officers to IOD or KIA/EOW. Plus, other officers should not have to take on the additional duties and responsibilities of dead officers. Think about their families, outside agencies, Chiefs/Directors.
Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
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Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence.
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2 separate woman were driving around SoCAL in Gray Nissan Titans that just happen to drive by the same street that 2 cops lived on and then these pigs without any warning , opened fire and hit these woman simply for driving gray nissan titans
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IF YOU DRIVE A GRAY NISSAN TITAN DO NOT DRIVE WHILE chris Dorner is out there, THEY WILL NOT ASK YOU TO STOP, OR ASK YOU TO GET OUT , THEY WILL SIMPLY try and MURDER YOU ON THE SPOT
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Well, they'll make a movie about the guy.
More from the manifesto
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.
Mr. Freid, assistant principal, Cypress HS. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect (Miranda) stole my watch. Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teachers assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to peoples lockers, from the P.E. teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers and stole students personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft an I reported it to you. A week later you discovered that the theft suspect was Paul Miranda, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect. Campus security was called and you lied and stated that you never stated to me that you “know he stole my watch”. You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate, stern face. I never forgot that and was not surprised when 13 years later I was lied on again in the BOR by Teresa Evans. maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996.
If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual’s brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression. I’ve had two CT scans during my lifetime that are in my medical record at Kaiser Permanente. Both are from concussions resulting from playing football. The first one was in high school, 10/96. The second was in college and occurred in 10/99. Both were conducted at Kaiser Permanente hospitals in LA/Orange county. These two CT scans should give a good baseline for my brain activity before severe depression began in late 2008.
Sure, many of you “law enforcement experts and specialist” will state, “in all my years this is the worst……..”, Stop!!! That’s not important. Ask yourselves what would cause somebody to take these drastic measures like I did. That’s what is important.
To my friends listed below, I wish we could have grown old together and spent more time together. When you reminisce of our friendship and experiences, think of that and that only. Do not dwell on my recent actions the last few days. This was a necessary evil that had to be executed in order for me to obtain my NAME back. The only thing that changes policy and garners attention is death.
Luis Sanchez, greatest friend, Marine officer, aviator, and an even better father and husband. I Couldn’t have had a better big brother than you. Your spoken wisdom was always retained by me, you old salty Mustang. You sternly told me that no matter what I accomplish I will always be a ni#%er in many individuals eyes. At the time, I did not comprehend your words. I do now. I never forgot the quote you state below. I love you bro.
I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself. –D.H. Lawrence
Jason Valadao, greatest friend, Naval officer, aviator, Great Father, husband, doctor, and even better human being. I always strived to live my life parallel to your similar values and personal disciplines. Danika is lucky to have found a man like yourself, and you are fortunate to have married an irrefutable imperfect woman. Always focus on your IMMEDIATE family as they are the ones who have loved you unconditionally and always been their to support you in difficult times. I always lived my life as WWJD (what would Jason do). Danika, take care of this guy. Jason, I’m sorry I missed your wedding and you had to find another best man. I’m sorry my predicament with the department stopped me from watching you and Danika get married and arguing with you about issues that were insignificant when I was really angry at the LAPD for what they did to me. I’m deeply sorry and I love you guys.
James Usera, great friend, attorney, father, husband, and the most cynical/blatant/politically incorrect friend a man can have. Best quality about you in college and now is that you never sugar coated the truth. I will miss our political discussions that always turned argumentative. Thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding, and also respect for the land and resources. Us city boys don’t get out much like you Alaskans. You even introduced me to PBR. A beer, that when you’re a poor college student is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. I’m sorry I’ll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. I love you bro.
Kinta Smith, greatest friend, accountant, entrepreneur, and even better Human being. You are probably the most well balanced person I’ve ever met and the most driven for success. In college, and after graduation, I was inspired by your personal drive. Never settle. When you make your first million, promise me you won’t forget to enjoy it a bit. I know your first reaction will be to invest it somewhere else. Spend a little, just a little. I love you bro.
Jason Young, great friend, entrepeneur, husband and father. You showed me the importance of fatherhood and friendship. Love you bro.
Suzie Clark Cunningham, Kassandra Harrell, Melinda Yates, Cal Jackson, Ryan Smith, The Rebelledos, The Banks, Ben Bines, J. Work, Bill O’neill, Jeremy Fletcher, and Rob Harriston.
You guys were all important and very special to me. Don’t be angry with me. I missed some of your weddings and unfortunately, some of your funerals. This was a necessary evil.
Some say it is my fault that I was terminated. Yes, DDX, I remember you stating this to me in an angry fit. You said that I should have kept my mouth shut about another officer’s misconduct. Maybe you were right. But I’m not built like others, it’s not in my DNA and my history has always shown that. When you view the video of the suspect stating he was kicked by Evans, maybe you will see that I was a decent person after all. I told the truth. It still hurt that you abandoned me in my time of need. I hope you’re happy, that’s all I ever wanted for you.
Sgt. Leonard Perez, you meant well but you should have known with your time on the job that the department would attempt to protect someone like Evans because of her time on the job, personal friendships, and ethicity. I’m not angry with you, but you should have known as an IA investigator.
Sgt Maggie Faust LPPD, Ofcr John Thomas LPPD (ret), and Chief Eric Nunez LPPD, your guidance and mentoring as a young police explorer was second to none and invaluable as a young man, police officer, and naval officer. Sgt Faust, you forewarned me long ago about joining LAPD as they were “different” and operated differently from other modern law enforcement agencies. I now know it was your humbleness and respect for all who wear the badge and protect their communities that you didn’t just express what you wanted to say, that they lack values and basic ethics as law enforcement officers. Chief Nunez, your fucking awesome. Thanks for the long talks over the years when I was an explorer, college student, Naval officer, and Police officer. Your are a great leader and carry your heart on your sleeve. Your son will be a great Air Force officer with the upringing you provided. John, what can I say? Your just an awesome person and my first exposure to what law enforcement was really about was on our ride alongs. Your realistic approach and empathetic approach to treating all people as humans first is something I carried with me daily. Thank you, every one of you.
Dr. Funahashi, thank you for the superb surgery you performed on my knee on 7/98 in Irvine, CA. I never had the opportunity to thank you for allowing me to live a life free of knee joint pain. Thank you.
CM1 Bissett (Ret.), I learned more from you about leadership than most of my own commanders. You lived by a strict ethos of get it done, and get it done right. I wanted to attend your retirement, I really did. But because of my predicament I was unable to. Hope you and Ritchie are still together. I’ve always held you in high regard.
Sgt Maj. Kenneth “Rock” Rocquemore USMC, Thank you for the intense instruction and mentorship and time spent forging me into a never quit officer. You were challenging as a DI. You made sure the vicious and intense personality I possess was discovered. On a lighter note….Don’t feel humbled you never broke me. I made it a personal goal to never give up years before. The Corp is lucky to have you at the front. Your leadership is essential and needed for all marines, especially staff NCO’s and mentorship and advisement to company grade officers. You are the epitome of a US marine and never forget that.
I thank my friends for the awesome shared experiences. I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex.
It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.
Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.
Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.
Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.
Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.
Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they’re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire’s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.
Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.
Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I’ve never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.
The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.
General Petraeus, you made a mistake that the majority of men make once, twice, or unfortunately many times in a lifetime. You are human. You thought with your penis. It’s okay.I personally believe you should have never resigned and told your critics to shove it. You only answer to two people regarding the affair, your wife and children, period. I hope you return to government service to your country as it is visibly in your DNA.
General Colin Powell, your book “My American Journey” solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.
To all SEA’s (senior enlisted advisers), you are just as important if not a greater viability to large and small commands. It’s time you take a more active role in leading your enlisted and advising officers. These are not your twilight years or time to relax. You can either strengthen the tip of the spear, or make it brittle. You decide.
Pat Harvey, I’ve always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.
Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are know different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the fuck do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shit.
Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.
Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be “Tebowing” when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.
Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.
Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N’bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.
Dave Brubeck’s “Take Five” is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies.
Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination.
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John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions. You are one of the few media personalities who speak the truth, even when the truth is not popular. I will miss listening to your discussions.
Bill Handel, your effin awesome. For years I enjoyed your show.
Anthony Bourdain, you’re a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying “too cool for school”.
Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses. I’m a big fan of all of your work. As a child my mom caught me watching Def Jam comedy at midnight when I should have been asleep. Instead of scolding me, the next night she let me stay up late and watch George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor comedy specials with her for hours. My sides were sore for days.
Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.
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I think this tragedy is a clear signal that we need to disarm the police.
Still more manifesto (continued)
Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.
Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.
If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.
KCCO
Anonymous, you are hated, vilified, and considered an enemy to the state. I personally view you as a culture and a necessity that brings truth to a cloaked world. Forge ahead!
Charlie Sheen, you’re effin awesome.
My opinion on women in combat MOS’, Designators, Rates, and AFSC’s. I wish all of you who attempt to pursue combat occupational roles the greatest success in completing, graduating, and qualifying in their respective schools/courses. Many want to see you fail. Remember, everyone of you is a pioneer. There was a time when they didn’t allow blacks to fight the good fight. This is your civil rights. Don’t quit!!!
It’s time to allow gay service member’s spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can’t really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn’t be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.
LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That’s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don’t be assholes and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.
Mr. Bill Cosby, you are a reasonable and talented man who has spoken the truth of the cultural anomalies within the black communities that need to change now. The black communities’ resentment toward you is because they don’t like hearing the truth or having their clear and evident dirty laundry aired to the nation. The problem is, the country is not blind nor dumb. They believe we are animals. Do not mute your unvarnished truthful speech or moral compass. Blacks must strive for more in life than bling, hoes, and cars. The current culture is an epidemic that leaves them with no discernible future. They’re suffocating and don’t even know it. MLK Jr. Would be mortified at what he worked so hard for in our acceptance as equal beings and how unfortunately we stopped progressing and began digressing. Chicago’s youth violence is a prime example of how our black communities values have declined. We can not address this nation’s intolerant issues until we address our own communities morality issues first. Accountability. We need to hold ou”
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The Manifesto
Uncensored Manifesto from Retired LAPD Officer Christopher Dorner
Its just way to long to post on GB so ill link it
http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveyDsHipHopCorner-theBlog+%28Davey+D%27s+Hip+Hop+Corner%29 (http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveyDsHipHopCorner-theBlog+%28Davey+D%27s+Hip+Hop+Corner%29)
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I think this tragedy is a clear signal that we need to disarm the police.
QFT
Going around shooting innocent people driving a Nissan Titan is fucking outrageous
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LL Cool J can play him in the TV movie.
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nothing to see here. Black on black crime
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that s one pissed off big dude that shouldnt have been pissed off.
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I'd get into the normal black on black getbig thing, but this guy was in the usa military. guys come out fucked after serving. ::)
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I'd get into the normal black on black getbig thing, but this guy was in the usa military. guys come out fucked after serving. ::)
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I'd get into the normal black on black getbig thing, but this guy was in the usa military. guys come out fucked after serving. ::)
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This smells like some sort of elaborate set up - right in the middle of his manfesto he has a long rant about the need for "gun control" ::) talking about how easily he obtained all his super deadly weapons.
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Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
WTF!
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Guy could have still had a great life.
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Then he adds a pro Obama rant:
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.
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Then he adds a pro Obama rant:
He's black, what were expecting? Black people blindly support Obama simply due to skin color, nothing more. Just like many white people supported Bush. Generally speaking, people stick to their own kind.
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It won't end well for this guy. My prayers are with him. They will take this rogue fighter out. Quickly.
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Oh good grief, near the end he does a movie and TV roundup.
It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.
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It won't end well for this guy. My prayers are with him. They will take this rogue fighter out. Quickly.
Why are your prayers w him?
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This guy reminds me of Wiggs.
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Now some diet and exercise advice for one of his favourite politicians
Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.
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This guy reminds me of Wiggs.
I wouldn't post a manifesto on the internet then threaten cops.
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ha ha fuck now he is praising Piers Morgan
give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.
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ha ha fuck now he is praising Piers Morgan
Mind changed.....Take this negro out! >:(
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ha ha
Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment.
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I can`t confirm this yet, but I think he may have had a Getbig account...
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More movie commentary
Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.
Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N’bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.
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LOL @ this nut being for more gun control and then killing people
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Good guys like this don't just go crazy. Something bad happened and that something bad is the LAPD.
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Good guys like this don't just go crazy. Something bad happened and that something bad is the LAPD.
Maybe he is a twink and the affair was about to come out?
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Maybe he is a twink and the affair was about to come out?
Huh? Am I missing something?
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He is a Charlie Sheen fan:
Charlie Sheen, you’re effin awesome.
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Huh? Am I missing something?
Nothing else makes sense here. And it is GB so that is as good an explanation as any
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This is what happens when good guys follow the rules, get fucked and lose all sense of reality because what they thought was an entity of good turns out not be so much.
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This is what happens when good guys follow the rules, get fucked and lose all sense of reality because what they thought was an entity of good turns out not be so much.
He wont recover
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LOL @ this nut being for more gun control and then killing people
I don`t think he will make it that long.
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PIGS (LAPD) shot 2 woman delivering newspapers in a Nissan Titan the same color as his???
Is there a MAN HUNT For these reckless LAPD pigs ??? Will they be brought up on charges or Attempted Murder ??? ??? ???
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this is his woman
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Is she dead too?
this is his woman
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PIGS shot 2 woman delivering newspapers in a Nissan Titan
Is there a MAN HUNT For this reckless pigs ??? Will they be brought up on charges or Attempted Murder ??? ??? ???
I know its bullshit but it doesn't lessen what this guy did. He killed two innocent people.
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He was fired in 2009 - only now he blows up?
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can't wait for the aftermath of this debacle. all of the asshole fringe goups, conspiracy dildos, gun-nutters, and anti-gun penis pullers will be whining for another three months
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He was fired in 2009 - only now he blows up?
This whole thing is some whacky shit. There is a lot more to this than what he writes. For instance he says the LAPD caused his family to turn against him, but there is nothing in what he writes which would cause his family to turn on him (prior to going psycho).
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can't wait for the aftermath of this debacle. all of the asshole fringe goups, conspiracy dildos, gun-nutters, and anti-gun penis pullers will be whining for another three months
;D
PSY-OP!
FALSE FLAG!
MIND CONTROL!
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That whole manifesto was either written by a mad man, or written by SOMEONE ELSE.
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Just shot at 3 more cops a couple of hours ago, 1 dead, one seriously wounded, 1 grazed in Corona, California.
Serious stuff.
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He has this shit bumpin on repeat in the truck i bet
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He has this shit bumpin on repeat in the truck i bet
More like this
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Just shot at 3 more cops a couple of hours ago, 1 dead, one seriously wounded, 1 grazed in Corona, California.
Serious stuff.
Yep, hes not coming in alive. Whether that is his choice is yet to be seen.
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Yep, hes not coming in alive. Whether that is his choice is yet to be seen.
Do we know what he is using? A rifle - handguns?
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I never understood why a cops life is more important than anybody else.
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Do we know what he is using? A rifle - handguns?
He talks about his weapons in his manifesto. Apparently he has got some heavy duty stuff that he was able to buy because he is ex miltary, stuff the normal citizen cannot get.
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Do we know what he is using? A rifle - handguns?
Rifle. I'm guessing AR.
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this is his woman
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Who is she?
Also, WYHI?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/lapd-shooting-at-innocent-people_n_2638701.html
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He's clearly went nuts.
I'm no longer on his side. Didn't know he was killing innocents.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/lapd-shooting-at-innocent-people_n_2638701.html
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Clearly the cowards are shitting themselves and killing innocents in their crazy panic.
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Who is she?
Also, WYHI?
I'd hit it. Looks like a younger, better looking booty.
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I'd hit it. Looks like a younger, better looking booty.
Um no. Booty looks way better than this broad.
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Um no. Booty looks way better than this broad.
You think? Hmm
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PSY-OP!
FALSE FLAG!
MIND CONTROL!
Look at his manifesto...The guy is giving props to everyone who is either CIA or CIA trained including people in Hollywood. Who the fukc does that? He even brings up the movie Inglourious Bastards. A movie that couldn't get anymore PRO Hierarchy. This guy is a ghost. If they supposedly kill him, no one will ever really get a good look at the body.
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He's clearly went nuts.
I'm no longer on his side. Didn't know he was killing innocents.
He is not killing innocents
the police are shooting the Innocent people
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Look at his manifesto...The guy is giving props to everyone who is either CIA or CIA trained including people in Hollywood. Who the fukc does that? He even brings up the movie Inglourious Bastards. A movie that couldn't get anymore PRO Hierarchy. This guy is a ghost. If they supposedly kill him, no one will ever really get a good look at the body.
Someone suffering a major psychosis with extreme narsicism and delusions of grandeur and active fantasy life
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I never understood why a cops life is more important than anybody else.
These people love looking at themselves in a uniform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
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You think? Hmm
Yes. We've had our differences but the broad is hot. And she has an accent too? She's dingy like all women but I'd tear that up...I mean make sweet romance where two become one...lol
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He is not killing innocents
the police are shooting the Innocent people
He killed an innocent women and her boyfriend
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Someone suffering a major psychosis with extreme narsicism and delusions of grandeur and active fantasy life
Good point...Yes agreed...
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LOS ANGELES -- Police officers shot innocent people during the frenzied manhunt for Christopher Dorner, a former cop suspected of murdering 3 people and shooting several more.
Officers from the Los Angeles and Torrance police departments engaged in two separate shootings Thursday morning in Torrance, Calif., reports KTLA. They had come across two different vehicles that matched the description of Dorner's getaway car, a gray 2005 Nissan Titan pickup.
The first shooting incident happened at 5:20 a.m. Officers from the Hollywood division of the LAPD shot two people who turned out to have no connection to Dorner's crimes. They were transported to the hospital with gunshot injuries.
The second incident occurred 25 minutes later and involved Torrance police. While shots were fired, there were no reported injuries.
In a press conference Thursday morning, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck confirmed that police shot innocent bystanders during the hunt for Dorner. He detailed the two victims' gunshot wounds:
"One has a minor gunshot wound and is in the process of being released. The second person is in stable condition, with two gunshot wounds," said Chief Beck. "Tragically, we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers."
Dorner, a former LAPD officer and Navy reservist, is suspected of fatally shooting Cal State Fullerton basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiance, USC security officer Keith Lawrence. When Quan and Lawrence were found in their car Sunday evening, authorities publicly stated they had no known motive or suspects.
That changed Wednesday, when Dorner published a multi-page manifesto on Facebook implicating himself in the murders of Quan and Lawrence.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," wrote Dorner on his Facebook profile. The former cop blamed the LAPD for his termination, listing people he believed were responsible for his dismissal.
One of the people on the list included Quan's father, retired LAPD captain Randal Quan. Cpt. Quan had represented Dorner during his dismissal hearing before the police Board of Rights, reports Associated Press.
During a press conference that night, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard announced a manhunt for Dorner, warning the public that he was armed and dangerous.
Thursday morning, Dorner is believed to have resumed his shooting rampage. More, from AP:
Early Thursday, the first shooting occurred in Corona and involved two LAPD officers working a security detail, LAPD Sgt. Alex Baez. One officer was grazed.
Later, two officers on routine patrol in neighboring Riverside were ambushed at a stop light, said Riverside Lt. Guy Toussaint. One died and the other was in surgery. The officers shot were not actively looking for Dorner, Toussaint said.
Anyone with more information about Dorner's whereabouts is encouraged to call police at 213-486-5230. Reach the police during non-business hours at 877-LAPD-24-7.
WTF!
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He killed an innocent women and her boyfriend
She is the daughter of his Attorney? that was repping him in his case against the LAPD.... she maybe innocent but her father is a dirt bag , her father will have to live with her death now
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LOS ANGELES -- Police officers shot innocent people during the frenzied manhunt for Christopher Dorner, a former cop suspected of murdering 3 people and shooting several more.
Officers from the Los Angeles and Torrance police departments engaged in two separate shootings Thursday morning in Torrance, Calif., reports KTLA. They had come across two different vehicles that matched the description of Dorner's getaway car, a gray 2005 Nissan Titan pickup.
The first shooting incident happened at 5:20 a.m. Officers from the Hollywood division of the LAPD shot two people who turned out to have no connection to Dorner's crimes. They were transported to the hospital with gunshot injuries.
The second incident occurred 25 minutes later and involved Torrance police. While shots were fired, there were no reported injuries.
In a press conference Thursday morning, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck confirmed that police shot innocent bystanders during the hunt for Dorner. He detailed the two victims' gunshot wounds:
"One has a minor gunshot wound and is in the process of being released. The second person is in stable condition, with two gunshot wounds," said Chief Beck. "Tragically, we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers."
Dorner, a former LAPD officer and Navy reservist, is suspected of fatally shooting Cal State Fullerton basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiance, USC security officer Keith Lawrence. When Quan and Lawrence were found in their car Sunday evening, authorities publicly stated they had no known motive or suspects.
That changed Wednesday, when Dorner published a multi-page manifesto on Facebook implicating himself in the murders of Quan and Lawrence.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," wrote Dorner on his Facebook profile. The former cop blamed the LAPD for his termination, listing people he believed were responsible for his dismissal.
One of the people on the list included Quan's father, retired LAPD captain Randal Quan. Cpt. Quan had represented Dorner during his dismissal hearing before the police Board of Rights, reports Associated Press.
During a press conference that night, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard announced a manhunt for Dorner, warning the public that he was armed and dangerous.
Thursday morning, Dorner is believed to have resumed his shooting rampage. More, from AP:
Early Thursday, the first shooting occurred in Corona and involved two LAPD officers working a security detail, LAPD Sgt. Alex Baez. One officer was grazed.
Later, two officers on routine patrol in neighboring Riverside were ambushed at a stop light, said Riverside Lt. Guy Toussaint. One died and the other was in surgery. The officers shot were not actively looking for Dorner, Toussaint said.
Anyone with more information about Dorner's whereabouts is encouraged to call police at 213-486-5230. Reach the police during non-business hours at 877-LAPD-24-7.
WTF!
So they're basically shooting first and asking questions later. Some major lawsuits and lost jobs look to be in order.
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LOS ANGELES -- Police officers shot innocent people during the frenzied manhunt for Christopher Dorner, a former cop suspected of murdering 3 people and shooting several more.
Officers from the Los Angeles and Torrance police departments engaged in two separate shootings Thursday morning in Torrance, Calif., reports KTLA. They had come across two different vehicles that matched the description of Dorner's getaway car, a gray 2005 Nissan Titan pickup.
The first shooting incident happened at 5:20 a.m. Officers from the Hollywood division of the LAPD shot two people who turned out to have no connection to Dorner's crimes. They were transported to the hospital with gunshot injuries.
The second incident occurred 25 minutes later and involved Torrance police. While shots were fired, there were no reported injuries.
In a press conference Thursday morning, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck confirmed that police shot innocent bystanders during the hunt for Dorner. He detailed the two victims' gunshot wounds:
"One has a minor gunshot wound and is in the process of being released. The second person is in stable condition, with two gunshot wounds," said Chief Beck. "Tragically, we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers."
Dorner, a former LAPD officer and Navy reservist, is suspected of fatally shooting Cal State Fullerton basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiance, USC security officer Keith Lawrence. When Quan and Lawrence were found in their car Sunday evening, authorities publicly stated they had no known motive or suspects.
That changed Wednesday, when Dorner published a multi-page manifesto on Facebook implicating himself in the murders of Quan and Lawrence.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," wrote Dorner on his Facebook profile. The former cop blamed the LAPD for his termination, listing people he believed were responsible for his dismissal.
One of the people on the list included Quan's father, retired LAPD captain Randal Quan. Cpt. Quan had represented Dorner during his dismissal hearing before the police Board of Rights, reports Associated Press.
During a press conference that night, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard announced a manhunt for Dorner, warning the public that he was armed and dangerous.
Thursday morning, Dorner is believed to have resumed his shooting rampage. More, from AP:
Early Thursday, the first shooting occurred in Corona and involved two LAPD officers working a security detail, LAPD Sgt. Alex Baez. One officer was grazed.
Later, two officers on routine patrol in neighboring Riverside were ambushed at a stop light, said Riverside Lt. Guy Toussaint. One died and the other was in surgery. The officers shot were not actively looking for Dorner, Toussaint said.
Anyone with more information about Dorner's whereabouts is encouraged to call police at 213-486-5230. Reach the police during non-business hours at 877-LAPD-24-7.
WTF!
TO PROTECT AND SERVE ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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She is the daughter of his Attorney? that was repping him in his case against the LAPD.... she maybe innocent but her father is a dirt bag , her father will have to live with her death now
Come on, man. That's no reason to kill them. I don't think you believe that.
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Man this shit is nuts. And it think, it's still going on as we speak!
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Come on, man. That's no reason to kill them. I don't think you believe that.
no , thats really fucked up, she had nothing to do with it, and its sad that she was killed because of this fucking wackjobs issues
but , cops have happy tigger fingers so i dont really care when they die as well
and i especially do not care when one of their own goes after them
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reporting that one of the cops had a single Headshot to the forehead
Marks man
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reporting that one of the cops had a single Headshot to the forehead
Marks man
CIA Blackops marksman.
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This night end up like that shootout from the seen in HEAT
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"The Deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." -Full Metal Jacket
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If police didn't have guns this wouldn't be happening. I hope President Obama does something about this!
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no , thats really fucked up, she had nothing to do with it, and its sad that she was killed because of this fucking wackjobs issues
but , cops have happy tigger fingers so i dont really care when they die as well
and i especially do not care when one of their own goes after them
I hear ya. The profession seems to attract a lot of hotheads on power trips.
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If police didn't have guns this wouldn't be happening. I hope President Obama does something about this!
Yes! England's cops don't carry guns why should ours!
Ban cops with guns!
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http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=12&xmldoc=In%20CACO%2020111003006.xml&docbase=CsLwAr3-2007-Curr&SizeDisp=7 .
His legal side of the brouhaha with the LAPD.
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Remember this wild LA bank robbery shootout
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Remember this wild LA bank robbery shootout
When I think of real shootouts this is always the first to come to mind. That shit was insane. Could you imagine if they planned it better with more guys and more AKs? FUCK! :-X :-X :-X :-X
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When I think of real shootouts this is always the first to come to mind. That shit was insane. Could you imagine if they planned it better with more guys and more AKs? FUCK! :-X :-X :-X :-X
ya wildest real shootout i've ever seen on video.
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If this dude has been planning this for awhile - this is going to get probably way worse.
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Finally, a Shoot-out with a decent motivation, payback for some corrupt pigs who thought they could do whatever they like. I blame Corruption!
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Finally, a Shoot-out with a decent motivation, payback for some corrupt pigs who thought they could do whatever they like. I blame Corruption!
Corruption is as common as grains of sand everywhere on this planet, Churches, Business, Sports, Law, Family. I've come to learn that over time. As long as humans are around on this plane there will always be corruption.
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Finally, a Shoot-out with a decent motivation, payback for some corrupt pigs who thought they could do whatever they like. I blame Corruption!
I wouldn't argue with this if he were only targeting cops who can shoot back. He killed two innocents.
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I wouldn't argue with this if he were only targeting cops who can shoot back. He killed two innocents.
I blame the father of the slain girl, he was corrupt, fucked over the wrong person and his daughter paid the price. If he fucked with a Mexican drug cartel and the cartel left his daughter headless in a ditch, everybody would blame the father for fucking with the wrong people. this is why it is best to be a decent human-being, that way you don't endanger your friends or family. The aggrieved man shot the daughter, but the father contributed to her death! Also, corruption itself sees many innocent people killed, punished, jailed and basically fucked over, at some point it needs to be addressed, quite often it is the good guy whistle-blower who ends up with the short end of the stick, just not this time!
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The department also pulled officers from motorcycle duty, fearing they would make for easy targets. - Jesus, this guy has got the whole Police Force on Lockdown. Talk about Black Rambo!
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I blame the father of the slain girl, he was corrupt, fucked over the wrong person and his daughter paid the price. If he fucked with a Mexican drug cartel and the cartel left his daughter headless in a ditch, everybody would blame the father for fucking with the wrong people. this is why it is best to be a decent human-being, that way you don't endanger your friends or family. The aggrieved man shot the daughter, but the father contributed to her death! Also, corruption itself sees many innocent people killed, punished, jailed and basically fucked over, at some point it needs to be addressed, quite often it is the good guy whistle-blower who ends up with the short end of the stick, just not this time!
Yeah we all read your idiotic fucking post the first time. try a little harder to get a reaction, why don't you ;)
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Los Angeles officers guarding a "target" named in the posting shot and wounded two women in suburban Torrance who were in a pickup but were not involved, authorities said. It's not clear if the target is a person or a location. Beck said one woman was in stable condition with two gunshot wounds and the other was being released after treatment.
"Tragically we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers," Beck said.
The Daily Breeze in Torrance also reports that there was another police shooting nearby involving another pickup truck, but the driver wasn't hurt.
"We're asking our officers to be extraordinarily cautious just as we're asking the public to be extraordinarily cautious with this guy. He's already demonstrated he has a propensity for shooting innocent people," said Smith, the LAPD commander.
Do Police departments have any insight or self awareness?, or are they actually this dumb! Did the LAPD commander just say that his officers have fired at three innocent people, injuring two of them but to be careful of the bad guy because he has a propensity for shooting innocent people.
^^^^ WTF?
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Do Police De[departments have any insight or self awareness, or are they actually this dumb!
They are clearly all pissing themselves in fear and showing themselves unqualified to be on the streets with guns.
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Too bad he's not a linebacker in the NFL, there could be a story of redemption down the road.
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When "Training Day" goes bad...
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reporting that one of the cops had a single Headshot to the forehead
Marks man
Not true. The lapd shot in corona had a graze wound to the head. The 2 riverside cops were stopped at a light and ambushed. Nothing marksman just a bitch move
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This guy reminds me of Wiggs.
Asshole lol
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Interesting LAPD occurence here with a few very dumb GetBig comtributions to a very serious situation.
So here's a question I throw out to the relatively few GetBig intelligencia.....
Can the LAPD or any police agency within the USA live up to the high standsards expected of them ..... within the conditions in which they find themselves???
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Man this proves you'll never know which one of your friends or strangers you know of is a happy go lucky type of guy, but then one thing goes wrong in his life and all of a sudden is a killer.
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Man this proves you'll never know which one of your friends or strangers you know of is a happy go lucky type of guy, but then one thing goes wrong in his life and all of a sudden is a killer.
More stuff will come out about this guy to show he was unstable for a long time. It takes ALOT for a cop to get fired, he must have done some dumb shit
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Interesting LAPD occurence here with a few very dumb GetBig comtributions to a very serious situation.
So here's a question I throw out to the relatively few GetBig intelligencia.....
Can the LAPD or any police agency within the USA live up to the high standsards expected of them ..... within the conditions they find themselves in???
Modern Western Police Forces are nothing more than highly organised Criminal groups, to think otherwise is naive and what led this vigilante ex-policemen to be in the position he is in now. Like any criminal organisation, those who are ruthless, lack a conscience, are criminally minded and enjoy using force on the perceived enemies of the group will rise quickly through the ranks. The remaining Police officers are just do-gooders and pussies who are terrified to speak out against the constant corruption they witness within this criminal organisation. Their motto is, go along to get along.
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Not true. The lapd shot in corona had a graze wound to the head. The 2 riverside cops woman were stopped at a light delivering newspapers and ambushed. Nothing marksman just a bitch move
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Damn, I guess winning American Idol wasn't enough for Reuben Studdard.
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Damn, I guess winning American Idol wasn't enough for Reuben Studdard.
this is his sorry for 2013, he aint gonna shoot no moreeeee this yearrrrr
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More stuff will come out about this guy to show he was unstable for a long time. It takes ALOT for a cop to get fired, he must have done some dumb shit
Might be true. But I'm not sure if I'm missing anything of the puzzle here. This guy Chris Dorner was an ex-LAPD, then under whatever ground was fired due to turning on a fellow police officer for some sort of police brutality? Then on the flip side you have the LAPD randomly "shoot first ask questions later" killed two innocent women in the same look alike type of car that apparently Chris Dorner is fleeing in.
Man there's definitely more into it than all this. My belief is some scumbag is trying to cover something up over at LAPD. Is it just me or does this movie remind you of "Training Day" with Denzel Washington.
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seems like just another butt hurt man whose ancestors came from africa
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I'm all for revenge. But this guy has killed 3 people who had nothing to do with his firing. ???
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I'm all for revenge. But this guy has killed 3 people who had nothing to do with his firing. ???
The 3 innocent people he killed were relatives/families to the police officers he's trying to apparently get revenge on if I've read the story correctly. A friend of mine from Cali just said there are marked and unmarked police cars on almost every on-ramp and side street from San Diego to Los Angeles.
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When "Training Day" goes bad...
first thing I thought of too :-\
"It takes a wolf to catch a wolf'
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Interesting LAPD occurence here with a few very dumb GetBig comtributions to a very serious situation.
So here's a question I throw out to the relatively few GetBig intelligencia.....
Can the LAPD or any police agency within the USA live up to the high standsards expected of them ..... within the conditions in which they find themselves???
yes , how about they Stay Professional and do their jobs what they are paid and trained to do, and stop putting their lives first instead of the general public
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The girl killed in irvine was the daughter of a guy involved in dudes firing. Her boyfriend was also killed. The riverside cop was just a random cop. Nothing to do with it ( as far as I know)
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Why isn't security1 on this case?
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Reporting now that they found his Truck Burning in Big Bear, Ca.
dude has taken the fight to the woods
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Why isn't security1 on this case?
He might chip a nail.
Reporting now that they found his Truck Burning in Big Bear, Ca.
dude has taken the fight to the woods
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Oh shit, he's gone full blambo
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Where'd you hear the big bear thing nail? Nothing on the news yet about this
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Where'd you hear the big bear thing nail? Nothing on the news yet about this
it was on live right now on Fox LA news... they had a Chopper over head on it
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Lol @ Rambo
Anyway, this story is going full blown headlining all over New York newspapers too.
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BIg Bear, ca. is now on Lock Down
http://rotwnews.com/2013/02/07/blue-alert-christopher-domer/ (http://rotwnews.com/2013/02/07/blue-alert-christopher-domer/)
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it was on live right now on Fox LA news... they had a Chopper over head on it
Hmm....I didn't see it.
Dude will wait for tonight, then shoot it out again. Dead by 4am
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Dude looks like Barry Bonds. Anyway, is this the dude that posted crap about the lapd coming to attack him because he ratted out other officers? There was a post earlier about it.
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it's surprising considering he has a big smile in every picture
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Then he adds a pro Obama rant:
Man, he liked Huntsman, just like I did...
Dude wants to die, he wants to make a big statement...gun control and other things...
The LAPD still has it's issues if its still churning out guys like these. When a military trained cop starts killing cops, and talks about his cache of weapons, in the future tense ("you will find") like he knows where the road will take him, you know that America had a Bigger problem on its hands than gun control. Authority figures killing other Authority figures due to perceived wrong-doing is a symptom of a nation that is falling apart at the seams.
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If dude got fired from LAPD he must have burned down an orphanage and then killed three donut makers at Donut World. Its f-Ing impossible to fire a cop.
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Meanwhile in Texas....
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Dude looks like Barry Bonds. Anyway, is this the dude that posted crap about the lapd coming to attack him because he ratted out other officers? There was a post earlier about it.
yes, it appears he didnt wanna play by the corrupt LAPD rules and was whistleblowing on all kinds of crimes the lapd were doing
well LAPD did not like that one bit
if you think the LAPD isnt involved in coverups look into Training day inspired cop Rafael Pérez from the rampart district
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_P%C3%A9rez_%28police_officer%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_P%C3%A9rez_%28police_officer%29)
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Yeah we all read your idiotic fucking post the first time. try a little harder to get a reaction, why don't you ;)
Its stating the obvious. Getting revenge on someone by hurting the people they love the most. An age old tactic.
The guy has gone crazy no doubt, but its still an effective tactic. The guy will be suffering, his whole family will turn on him ( fair or not) he will be blamed for the deaths and he will be paying for it every single day of the rest of his life. HARSH FUCKING PUNISHMENT!
I hate cops and their ego-maniacal power trips. Useless fucking drain on the taxpayers.
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He's a fucking idiot if he went to big bear, unless he got out of there already. There are 4 ways off that mountain and I guarentee those will be closed soon. If he thinks he's going to live the life of grizzly Adams, he's a retard. It's cold as fuck up there right now
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he probably couldn't handle the job, gets called up to the boss and fired. but instead of taking it like a man he decides to make up falls stories and then go out on a rampage like the disturbed emo that he apparently is/was.
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Its stating the obvious. Getting revenge on someone by hurting the people they love the most. An age old tactic.
The guy has gone crazy no doubt, but its still an effective tactic. The guy will be suffering, his whole family will turn on him ( fair or not) he will be blamed for the deaths and he will be paying for it every single day of the rest of his life. HARSH FUCKING PUNISHMENT!
I hate cops and their ego-maniacal power trips. Useless fucking drain on the taxpayers.
Kaiser Souza.
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he probably couldn't handle the job, gets called up the boss and fired. but instead of taking it like a man he decides to make up falls stories and then go out on a rampage like the disturbed emo that he apparently is/was.
Clearly you know jack shit about this and just showed your ignorance. There is a 20 page manifesto that explains everything.
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Clearly you know jack shit about this and just showed your ignorance. There is a 20 page manifesto that explains everything.
manifesto, the sure fire sign of a fully fledged emo.
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They're reporting the truck in big bear was found on the 2n10. It's a dirt road, Ive hiked there a million times. You really have to be looking for that road to find it. Seems odd that he'd go there. Unless he's a backpacker too
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They're reporting the truck in big bear was found on the 2n10. It's a dirt road, Ive hiked there a million times. You really have to be looking for that road to find it. Seems odd that he'd go there. Unless he's a backpacker too
He is a Marine
ttt
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Navy I thought
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Clearly you know jack shit about this and just showed your ignorance. There is a 20 page manifesto that explains everything.
Did he mention not being able to take being OWNED on Getbig any more?
Personally, I'm rooting fort his guy, I hope he makes the Police Department look like Fools, although, personally I think he will be lucky to make it through the night. I know what he is doing by targeting innocents is EVIL, but I think what he is fighting against is a far greater evil, and one that most people would never in their wildest dreams stand up too. The fact is, people let others in power push them around all the time, and they do ZERO, NAUGHT, NADA, not this guy, He's taking it too the man.
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They're reporting the truck in big bear was found on the 2n10. It's a dirt road, Ive hiked there a million times. You really have to be looking for that road to find it. Seems odd that he'd go there. Unless he's a backpacker too
Maybe you could head on up there and help with the search! But seriously, with your experience of the trails, what are his chances of evading Police up there?
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Interesting LAPD occurence here with a few very dumb GetBig comtributions to a very serious situation.
So here's a question I throw out to the relatively few GetBig intelligencia.....
Can the LAPD or any police agency within the USA live up to the high standsards expected of them ..... within the conditions in which they find themselves???
That Sir, is a very good question. Books have been written on that very subject. Not even sure I know the answer at this point.
Some "experts" will argue Noble Cause corruption is inevitable. Its just a matter of degrees. Cops are wired to catch bad guys. Some believe the ends justifies the means. The rules tend to be tilted in the suspects favor, so some cops will try and even the playing field. But the good news is that in my 20 yrs of civilian L.E. I have seen an evolution towards a more educated and professional PD. recruits are being taught lying is a fire-able offense and examples have been made. I think both sides, citizens and cops probably are adjusting the expectations over time. To answer the question in a nutshell, maybe not, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't continuously strive to..
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His Favorite quote off facebook
Favorite Quotations
I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself-D.H. Lawrence
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Did he mention not being able to take being OWNED on Getbig any more?
Personally, I'm rooting fort his guy, I hope he makes the Police Department look like Fools, although, personally I think he will be lucky to make it through the night. I know what he is doing by targeting innocents is EVIL, but I think what he is fighting against is a far greater evil, and one that most people would never in their wildest dreams stand up too. The fact is, people let others in power push them around all the time, and they do ZERO, NAUGHT, NADA, not this guy, He's taking it too the man.
you Sir, have issues... just sayin
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Maybe you could head on up there and help with the search! But seriously, with your experience of the trails, what are his chances of evading Police up there?
Not good. The forest isn't thick and there are is a fair amount of snow do I would think he'd be easy to track. Maybe that's what he want and is planning an ambush.
I can't imagine that this is going to be his car though. Why box yourself like that. There are trails off that mountain but he'd have to cross about a 10000 ft ridge and it's about a 20 mile hike.
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This Guy put his life on the line for America
I will not turn by back on Christopher ,
NO SIR-RE BOB
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Bob Sapp better go into hiding before they shoot him too.
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you Sir, have issues... just sayin
Your full of shit, considering that RAMBO was a Number 1 Box Office hit, I imagine their are plenty of Americans living vicariously through this guy!
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Not good. The forest isn't thick and there are is a fair amount of snow do I would think he'd be easy to track. Maybe that's what he want and is planning an ambush.
I can't imagine that this is going to be his car though. Why box yourself like that. There are trails off that mountain but he'd have to cross about a 10000 ft ridge and it's about a 20 mile hike.
maybe he put the truck there , set it on fire , had another car there in big bear and used it to go down the mountain , the way he is avoiding the police dude can be already half way to canada
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All bald fat black guys should lay low in the Southern California area. We are talking about the LAPD.
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i just hope they get in on video when they kill him. hopeully they blow his head right off
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"According to court documents, Mr Dorner was fired in 2008 after making a complaint against his field training officer, saying she had kicked a suspect, a schizophrenic man with severe dementia, during an arrest."
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you Sir, have issues... just sayin
Not as many issues as corrupt Police Forces by the looks of it, and personally just shooting at civilians because they are driving a similar car to a perp, now that's issues.
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maybe he put the truck there , set it on fire , had another car there in big bear and used it to go down the mountain , the way he is avoiding the police dude can be already half way to canada
Yeah if he's been planning this, not a bad idea. Draw the cops up there and you've been gone for 6 hours
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Yeah if he's been planning this, not a bad idea. Draw the cops up there and you've been gone for 6 hours
He's a former Navy guy and Cop. He knows what he's doing. He knows what they are trained to look for. He's not there.
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All bald fat black guys should lay low in the Southern California area. We are talking about the LAPD.
Isn't that what they normally do anyway.
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Your full of shit, considering that RAMBO was a Number 1 Box Office hit, I imagine their are plenty of Americans living vicariously through this guy!
No doubt...I'd say the same to them..
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html
Only police should have guns. ::) ::) ::)
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i just hope they get in on video when they kill him. hopeully they blow his head right off
Like this!, that's a painting done by my brother by the way, for sale if anybody is Interested.
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Like this!, that's a painting done by my brother by the way, for sale if anybody is Interested.
(http://contemporary-artist.info/img/suicide-bomber-1200.jpg)
this would look fabulous over groinks fireplace or dinner table ;D
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doesn't believe in god, thinks he has to kill for vengeance, claims his morals and ethics is in his DNA, ::) does he even realize he is not in a jungle?
emotional reaction / low intelligence / tremendously butt hurt = bad combo
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doesn't believe in god, thinks he has to kill for vengeance, claims his morals and ethics is in his DNA, ::) does he even realize he is not in a jungle?
emotional reaction / low intelligence / tremendously butt hurt = bad combo
??? he got fucked over and now he's pissed off, and, hes human.
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His message for the Jets 'Tim Tebow'
“Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game,” Christopher Dorner wrote. “You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be 'Tebowing' when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.”
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this would look fabulous over groinks fireplace or dinner table ;D
Maybe a-ahmed might be Interested! It's a Muslim Brother, The potential suicide bomber was walking up to a roadside checkpoint shouting “Allah akbhar” (god is great) and despite being given several warnings he continued. The result is as you can see.
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We really need to ban liberals and cops from owning guns.
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We really need to ban liberals and cops from owning guns.
Maybe the Police just need some armed guards!
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??? he got fucked over and now he's pissed off, and, hes human.
no, he got fired, his family disowned him, because he is a gravely disturbed individual
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Next year, we can all look back and reflect on this day in black history.
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They drew first blood.
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no, he got fired, his family disowned him, because he is a gravely disturbed individual
thats a way of looking at things through the view of a straw..
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thats a way of looking at things through the view of a straw..
you can't see from what he wrote, what he has done and what he is doing that he is mentally disturbed?
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you can't see from what he wrote, what he has done and what he is doing that he is mentally disturbed?
This guy sounds like the guy from Falling Down
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He has a few Grammy Awards!
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you can't see from what he wrote, what he has done and what he is doing that he is mentally disturbed?
more like mentally crushed and defeated, a sane brain can only take so much, like wiggs says everything he believed in was bollux and thats alot for someone loyal like that to handle. but yes, he's absolutely lost his mind.
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They drew first blood.
LMFAO
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ALL PED
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more like mentally crushed and defeated, a sane brain can only take so much, like wiggs says everything he believed in was bollux and thats alot for someone loyal like that to handle. but yes, he's absolutely lost his mind.
more like "I didn't get my way so now I'll show them! They'll see!" It's the classic temper tantrum.
Immature lowlife with little to now impulse control and rational thinking.
They should screen better for these arrested development types so they don't receive any military or police training.
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Im big and brown skinned... and i work in torrance...
Stayin my black ass in the house... theyre shootin Brothas like hot cakes out here
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From far away i can be mistaken cuz i got the fat ass face too...
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Stay safe D
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From far away i can be mistaken cuz i got the fat ass face too...
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What in the fuck is that your standing next to D ??? ???
Looks like Storm from X-men
sexxxy ;D ;D
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oh my bad i see a football player and Minni mouse back there, must be a costume party
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Wonder if BIG ALEX is out and about with his broskies on their own manhunt for this dude
Big Ron A. any pics of the poppos going berzerk on your side of town
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With my extensive explosives training (none) I'm going to say that truck was blown up with a delayed devise and homeboy is long off that mountain
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Feel bad for the guy for some reason. Seems like a good dude that was just too idealistic. Ironic in that he probably watch all those cop movies (L.A. Confidential, Training Day, Heat, etc) and didn't realize that the reality was far worse than what the movies portrayed.
Sad to know that he decided to basically end his life over some bullshit. I hope he takes out many pigs on his way out.
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i knew a broad who was a cop for a police dept in SOcal
she would tell me she that her coworkers would always drive drunk, she also said she would pull over drunk cops from other dept would they would just show her their badge and she would let them drive drunk home
Cops do not give a shit about your safety, they only care about hiding behind the badge and being above the law
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What in the fuck is that your standing next to D ??? ???
Looks like Storm from X-men
sexxxy ;D ;D
thats my sister.. halloween costume
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With my extensive explosives training (none) I'm going to say that truck was blown up with a delayed devise and homeboy is long off that mountain
Lol ;D
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you can't see from what he wrote, what he has done and what he is doing that he is mentally disturbed?
No way, do you consider a LION killing a man who provokes it as mentally disturbed. Humans are animals and this is the law of the land, as a matter of fact, humanities attempts at civilisation have thwarted this type of behaviour. If people were actually free to stand up for themselves and use everything in their power to protect themselves from being dominated, you would see a lot more of this type of behaviour. But people would think before giving other people shit though! The truth is, doing what's right and standing up for yourself have been outlawed. That's why I believe the current system is mentally ill, everybody would be better of under an anarchist system! Nothing could be worse than the current BS system we have now!
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From far away i can be mistaken cuz i got the fat ass face too...
And you'd get shot if you say, "Option D?"
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more like "I didn't get my way so now I'll show them! They'll see!" It's the classic temper tantrum.
Immature lowlife with little to now impulse control and rational thinking.
They should screen better for these arrested development types so they don't receive any military or police training.
You must be a cop, you sure carry on like one, a typical temper tantrum is when children react inappropriately to fair and reasonable treatment. This man is standing up for what is right and teaching corrupt people in power a lesson. And he seems to have plenty of impulse control, using planning and skill to enact his revenge, unlike the useless LAPD who blatantly open fire on innocent unsuspecting citizens. those pigs deserve everything they get. Sometimes a lesser evil (collateral damage when taking revenge on corrupt cops) is necessary to prevent a greater evil.(the overt corruption of power that sees many innocent people killed, jailed or unfairly treated)
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Above the law.
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Just reading the manifesto now, better than Breivik's. I like this quote "Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. Theywould not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers thatthey had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place.Sometimes a reset needs to occur
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upsidedown?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth."
or this
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
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Just reading the manifesto now, better than Breivik's. I like this quote "Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. Theywould not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers thatthey had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place.Sometimes a reset needs to occur
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upsidedown?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth."
or this
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
This man speaks the truth
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How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
My ex mother in law is a Senior Deputy Public Defender... my ex father in law is a retired Senior Deputy District Attorney... both Los Angeles... they say that this is TRUE.
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How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
My ex mother in law is a Senior Deputy Public Defender... my ex father in law is a retired Senior Deputy District Attorney... both Los Angeles... they say that this is TRUE.
How can you be sure, Is that based on their experience and training?
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this deranged man of self serving lies should be hunted down with dogs and dealt with
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If i had a son, he would look like Christopher , but i would think long and Hard before letting him join the military or the Lapd
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this deranged man of self serving lies should be hunted down with dogs and dealt with
That's what Dorner is doing! Good to see the corrupt Pigs get what was coming to them hey!!
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He just went Jason Bourne on some more
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Check out the Hail of Bullets by the Cops against the woman delivering News Papers this morning
Fit the description of a black buff dude in a gray Nissan titan
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(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017d40da0bf1970c-640wi)
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they have been getting fucked by the judges and cops the entire time they see the lies, drugs, crimes, etc., these corrupt people live above the law
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damn they are going after all big black guys just saw three on the news that are terrified
did that paper lady get killed?
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;)
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damn they are going after all big black guys just saw three on the news that are terrified
did that paper lady get killed?
no , they are calling it a Miracle they survived , i guess GOD was on the side of these woman and not the badge today
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That's what Dorner is doing! Good to see the corrupt Pigs get what was coming to them hey!!
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How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
My ex mother in law is a Senior Deputy Public Defender... my ex father in law is a retired Senior Deputy District Attorney... both Los Angeles... they say that this is TRUE.
well, that's how they state their probable cause---"based on training and experience" and they go into their training on drugs, weapons, etc.
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He just went Jason Bourne on some more
So dude is tearing the LAPD up? Lolz.
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no , they are calling it a Miracle they survived , i guess GOD was on the side of these woman and not the badge today
Wait, the LAPD are shooting at innocent people thinking it's him? You have got to be fucking kidding.
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they just shot up some poor mexican woman delivering the daily news shoot first ask later
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they just shot up some poor mexican woman delivering the daily news shoot first ask later
Well, I guess he's proving his point. Lol. Piss of the LAPD and anyone in their way is fair game evidently, clearly bitch shouldn't have been driving the wrong colored vehicle down the road while being mexican.
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this deranged man of self serving lies should be hunted down with dogs and dealt with
OK Officer.
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Wait, the LAPD are shooting at innocent people thinking it's him? You have got to be fucking kidding.
Not that it matters but I think it was Torrence pd. still total fuckwd up move. How do two small korean ladies look like a 270lb black dude? Barney fucking fife
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Man, you should see all the love this guy is getting on /b/
Everyone is rooting for him to plug some pigs. I feel bad for the family members shot and killed, but I'm sure there is probably a few members of the LAPD that society wouldn't miss one bit.
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-manhunt-anderson-cooper-got-package-from-fugitive-20130207,0,6906979.story
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html
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How much does/did the cop killer bench ?
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What's /b/?
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What's /b/?
It's the random forum on 4chan.
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What's /b/?
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They ruined his life.
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;D
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Man, you should see all the love this guy is getting on /b/
Everyone is rooting for him to plug some pigs. I feel bad for the family members shot and killed, but I'm sure there is probably a few members of the LAPD that society wouldn't miss one bit.
They are going to give the police false information on the man.
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Our dear officers• hahahahaha
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Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off!
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Just listen to captain bill Bratton lying on TV. He's pathological in his lies. He can't tell the truth even when he wants to.
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Man, you should see all the love this guy is getting on /b/
Everyone is rooting for him to plug some pigs. I feel bad for the family members shot and killed, but I'm sure there is probably a few members of the LAPD that society wouldn't miss one bit.
This thread just got serious, what's /b/
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Man, you should see all the love this guy is getting on /b/
Everyone is rooting for him to plug some pigs. I feel bad for the family members shot and killed, but I'm sure there is probably a few members of the LAPD that society wouldn't miss one bit.
I'm certain of it.
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Just listen to captain bill Bratton lying on TV. He's pathological in his lies. He can't tell the truth even when he wants to.
he said some ol bullshit to like
"yes we trained him, but lets get it straight he is NOT ONE OF US" - bill Bratton
what a fucking pig, not taking responsibility for one of his officers
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Dude probably had a used black and white cop car he bought from a auction and is rolling in his old Cop uniform to mexico
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he said some ol bullshit to like
"yes we trained him, but lets get it straight he is NOT ONE OF US" - bill Bratton
what a fucking pig, not taking responsibility for one of his officers
By saying, he is not one of us, What he meant was that he wasn't a lying corrupt scum bag who would fist fuck his own grandmother to save them self.
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By saying, he is not one of us, What he meant was that he wasn't a lying corrupt scum bag who would fist fuck his own grandmother to save them self.
LOL @ the moron who lives in Australia acting like he knows the first thing about the LAPD
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Dude is a sociopath. Probably learn it when he was killing women and children in Afghanistan
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By saying, he is not one of us, What he meant was that he wasn't a lying corrupt scum bag who would fist fuck his own grandmother to save them self.
That's an absolutely atrocious thing to say; you really should clean up your depraved mind.
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That's an absolutely atrocious thing to say; you really should clean up your depraved mind.
;)
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LOL @ the moron who lives in Australia acting like he knows the first thing about the LAPD
Rampart - Nothings changed! As a matter of fact, Western police forces everywhere are similar. Power breeds corruption. large-scale corruption involving the police not only exists but has become institutionalized. Believe it or not, I don't give a fuck!
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http://www.infowars.com/lapd-whistleblower-targeting-suspected-corrupt-cops-for-assassination/
Former LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is in the middle of a brutal retribution campaign against what he says are lying, racist and criminal members of the LAPD and their Board of Rights, according to a so-called manifesto allegedly posted to Facebook by the ex-officer.
Former LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner.
According to police, the manifesto appears to be written by Dorner because of details mentioned only he could know.
In what Dorner calls an attempt “to correct and calibrate” the “morale compasses (sic)” of the LAPD “to true north,” Dorner has reportedly killed three people while seeking to bring the department’s entrenched culture of lying under oath and brutality against innocent civilians to light.
He says the LAPD dragged his name through the mud and cost him his position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit, his relationship with his mother and sister and several relationships with close friends. He rhetorically asks, “What would you do to clear your name?” all the while admitting he knows his days are numbered.
According to the edited nine-page version of the manifesto posted by KTLA.com, Dorner was relieved of duty by the LAPD after filing a report against an officer who kicked a handcuffed suspect twice in the chest and once in the face.
Dorner infers he was the target of retaliation because of this and that reporting such activity must have crossed “their supposed blue line,” a reference to the “blue code of silence,” an unspoken code of conduct cops are rumored to adhere to which demands they stand up for each other at all times.
In the lengthy document, he states that an internal affairs investigation was also launched against him after he reported two officers for using the word “black” while traveling in a van with them, an allegation he owns up to in the document: “At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around XXXX’s neck and squeezed.”
“No one is saying you can’t be predjudiced or a bigot,” he says, adding, “We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.” (sic)
Dorner also reveals sordid, grisly tales of routine police life, telling of officers that would take photos of “recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions.”
He also tells of an officer nicknamed “Chupacabra” – because of her penchant for drawing blood from her victims – who performed an Indian burn on a 70-year-old woman while cuffing her for spraying a neighbor with a garden hose, intentionally ripping the flesh off the arm of the grandmother.
In Dorner’s own words, “The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.”
Like an aberration of the comic book character The Punisher, Dorner says he will bring swift justice to those that have turned their back on the oaths they swore to uphold: “Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over. Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep.” (sic)
Thousands of state and local police are now looking for the man who says he will not stop until the department comes clean about his innocence: “The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!!”
However, police seem more intent on eliminating the threat rather than admitting any wrongdoing, even to the point of firing on innocent victims in vain efforts to capture him.
According to the Huffington Post, “Officers from the Hollywood division of the LAPD shot two people who turned out to have no connection to Dorner’s crimes. They were transported to the hospital with gunshot injuries.” The LA Times reports that the two women shot were delivering newspapers when police riddled their pickup truck with bullets, shooting one in the hand and the other in the back.
Dorner’s manifesto makes it clear that he will not be an easy target and labels efforts by police to arrest or kill him “reactive and predictable.”
“I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey… I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving,” he says. “Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.”
Dorner acknowledges that he will not be around to hear police recant their claims against him, stating, “Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared.”
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Just saw on CNN he's an expert level shooter with a 9mm and marksmen with a rifle.
Which is much more training and proficiency then your average cop has. Also he's been planning for this for the past 4 years. This guy is going to go out with a bang. Who knows he might be in the woods planning to go all Rambo on these cops who are hunting for him.
This is going to end ugly.
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Just saw on CNN he's an expert level shooter with a 9mm and marksmen with a rifle.
Which is much more training and proficiency then your average cop has. Also he's been planning for this for the past 4 years. This guy is going to go out with a bang. Who knows he might be in the woods planning to go all Rambo on these cops who are hunting for him.
This is going to end ugly.
X2. I think the shits gunna hit the fan tonight. I don't think he's still In big bear tho. Somewhere back in orange county is my guess.
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I am all for killing corrupt cops as they are the worst kind of criminal.
Any one that stands in his way is an enemy of the people and is on the side of the worst kind of criminal pig and therefore deserves to die as well.
fuck a cop. fuck em all.
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;)
There's nothing wrong with saying the truth, is there? 8)
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if he's cornered, I doubt he'll take his own life, but this will not end well....I hope this muthafucker don't take out innocent cops that has nothing to do with this shit.....
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly rooting for this guy, except for the whole targeting of family members. That's fucked.
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There's nothing wrong with saying the truth, is there? 8)
Please let me know when you decide to speak some. It will be a welcome change to all the religious fantasy you spew up everywhere.
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly rooting for this guy, except for the whole targeting of family members. That's fucked.
Exactly. As I said before, I fully support revenge. But this guy is all fucked up in his execution of the executions
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Look at all the anti-gun humanitarians creaming their panties over a guy on a killing spree ::)
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"Curb Your Enthusiasm" star Larry David:
Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.
Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses.
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if he's cornered, I doubt he'll take his own life, but this will not end well....I hope this muthafucker don't take out innocent cops that has nothing to do with this shit.....
Oxymoron dude. no such thing as an innocent cop. well maybe 2 or 3 bur definitely not in LA.
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Look at all the anti-gun humanitarians creaming their panties over a guy on a killing spree ::)
It's not so bad, the perp is anti gun also, anti NRA and he also agrees with Piers Morgan. Plus he likes killing cops. Awesome.
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It's not so bad, the perp is anti gun also, anti NRA and he also agrees with Piers Morgan. Plus he likes killing cops. Awesome.
So he's a hypocrite like yourself. I can see why you like him.
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724 Loughton St
Las Vegas, NV 89178
his Las Vegas home
google Images shows the INFAMOUS , GRAY NISSAN TITAN
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&q=724+Loughton+St+las+vegas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c8b81dc020b5ff:0xbc111463f25ebcc7,724+Loughton+St,+Las+Vegas,+NV+89178&gl=us&sa=X&ei=OmEUUbGIBeKDiwLi24DgCw&ved=0CDAQ8gEwAA (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&q=724+Loughton+St+las+vegas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c8b81dc020b5ff:0xbc111463f25ebcc7,724+Loughton+St,+Las+Vegas,+NV+89178&gl=us&sa=X&ei=OmEUUbGIBeKDiwLi24DgCw&ved=0CDAQ8gEwAA)
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So he's a hypocrite like yourself. I can see why you like him.
So it's ok for gun nutters to go on shooting sprees but not anti-gun nutters. As an anti gun advocate he is simply proving why guns should be heavily restricted. He wrote this in his manifesto:
If you had [sic] a well regulated AWB [assault-weapons ban], this would not happen. The time is now to reinstate a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle?”
He also ranted against the NRA and its executive vice president and CEO, Wayne LaPierre, calling him “vile” and “inhumane.”
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So it's ok for gun nutters to go on shooting sprees but not anti-gun nutters. As an anti gun advocate he is simply proving why guns should be heavily restricted. He wrote this in his manifesto:
If you had [sic] a well regulated AWB [assault-weapons ban], this would not happen. The time is now to reinstate a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle?”
This thread is about an awesome patriotic American, please leave the gunfag shit in another thread.
And you're wrong FYI.
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This thread is about an awesome patriotic American, please leave the gunfag shit in another thread.
And you're wrong FYI.
Hey ! , his anti gun stance is a big part of the story, he wrote quite a bit about it in his manifesto, can't ignore part of the story just to suit a few gun nutters!
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Hey ! , his anti gun stance is a big part of the story, he wrote quite a bit about it in his manifesto, can't ignore part of the story just to suit a few gun nutters!
Not talking about his manifesto, talking about you attempting to derail this thread with the gun bullshit. Lets focus on real life Rambo for a bit.
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Not talking about his manifesto, talking about you attempting to derail this thread with the gun bullshit. Lets focus on real life Rambo for a bit.
Alright, just for you dude, but he is right about Gun Control FYI
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This is going to end with more civilians killed by the LAPD than cops killed by Dorner. Good lord, what a bunch of dumbasses.
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This is going to end with more civilians killed by the LAPD than cops killed by Dorner. Good lord, what a bunch of dumbasses.
What if I told you....
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That getting the LAPD to expose themselves as violent thugs, was his plan all along?
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What if I told you....
That getting the LAPD to expose themselves as violent thugs, was his plan all along?
WHHOOOAA! DEEP
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Look at all the anti-gun humanitarians creaming their panties over a guy on a killing spree ::)
I find this development disturbing.
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I find this development disturbing.
I would have no problem with regular killing sprees if the targets were arseholes who deliberately cause others to suffer. Personally, if the only victims were NRA Gun Nutters, I think that could be a win/win situation. Then I would definitely be against Gun Control. or the alternative idea by George Harrison “If everyone who had a gun just shot themselves, there wouldn't be a problem.”
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I would have no problem with regular killing sprees if the targets were arseholes who deliberately cause others to suffer. Personally, if the only victims were NRA Gun Nutters, I think that could be a win/win situation. Then I would definitely be against Gun Control. or the alternative idea by George Harrison “If everyone who had a gun just shot themselves, there wouldn't be a problem.”
George Harrison was stabbed by a nut with a knife.
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Evidently some people are saying that the manifesto they released was manipulated, and that the original didn't involve of the NRA, AWB, media, or stupid other shit.
Possible I guess, considering that this incident could easily be used to push the assault weapons agenda.
Link to supposed original.
http://imgur.com/kbndSWY
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George Harrison was stabbed by a nut with a knife.
Lucky the attacker didn't have a gun then, obviously would have turned out pretty bad otherwise. If the attacker had a gun their would have been no way he would have been overpowered by a woman.
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Look at all the anti-gun humanitarians creaming their panties over a guy on a killing spree ::)
They ought to be creaming their collective panties over the fact that not only did he pass psych evals for the police dept but also the navy and made it to, through?, fucking flight school. In a news interview with a former associate who knew him in college and went to flight school with him basically said that he is not surprised, the guy had real issues with owning his own shortcomings and would blame it on others
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They ought to be creaming their collective panties over the fact that not only did he pass psych evals for the police dept but also the navy and made it to, through?, fucking flight school. In a news interview with a former associate who knew him in college and went to flight school with him basically said that he is not surprised, the guy had real issues with owning his own shortcomings and would blame it on others
What is disturbing is that as long as it helps their argument, they are ok with the killing of people.
I find that fucked up.
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Someone just faced the absurdity of life and decided to give a bullshit meaning to it , by killing people to release his anger. An animal who cant play by the rules anymore. There s nobody to defend in this story, him, or the cops who want to kill him cause...he didn tplay the game, was fired, and killed cops. Lol at firing randomly at every truck that barely look like the official description of his; who are these clowns? More absurdity.
BUT...
It makes us feel better about how we keep following the rules of the game daily, to see him fail, sink into madness, all of this entertain us. We want to see more of this nonsense, we want blood, failures. Even more absurdity.
The sheer animal nature of man exposed. There s no particular meaning to any of this, except that some people , all guided by bullshits reasons, are killing each others to feel alive.
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724 Loughton St
Las Vegas, NV 89178
his Las Vegas home
google Images shows the INFAMOUS , GRAY NISSAN TITAN
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&q=724+Loughton+St+las+vegas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c8b81dc020b5ff:0xbc111463f25ebcc7,724+Loughton+St,+Las+Vegas,+NV+89178&gl=us&sa=X&ei=OmEUUbGIBeKDiwLi24DgCw&ved=0CDAQ8gEwAA (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&q=724+Loughton+St+las+vegas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c8b81dc020b5ff:0xbc111463f25ebcc7,724+Loughton+St,+Las+Vegas,+NV+89178&gl=us&sa=X&ei=OmEUUbGIBeKDiwLi24DgCw&ved=0CDAQ8gEwAA)
who living in such a disgusting place wouldnt want to destroy mankind.
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who living in such a disgusting place wouldnt want to destroy mankind.
Its nicer than your shit house. ;)
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I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a black. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being
:D
I like this guy.
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I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a guy. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being
:D
I like this guy.
Hey Adam, did you receive my messages? You were supposed to send me some stuff so I can help you better.
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Hey Adam, did you receive my messages? You were supposed to send me some stuff so I can help you better.
Yes. I am ready to Paypal you whenever you are ready.
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Yes. I am ready to Paypal you whenever you are ready.
I need to assess the materials first to determine your present condition before I accept payment. I'm a professional with ethics, you know.
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I need to assess the materials first to determine your present condition before I accept payment. I'm a professional with ethics, you know.
I pay first, then I send pictures. That way I know you are serious.
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I pay first, then I send pictures. That way I know you are serious.
My Paypal account isn't up now (my Australia one I can no longer use since I'm in Canada now). In the meantime you can send your current pictures and diet/training/cardio/supp/drug routines so I can do some preliminary work on you. I can assure you I'm very serious with my clients.
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Its nicer than your shit house. ;)
Still butthurt cause I randomly expose your and your fugly whore real life names on here, which prevents you and her from using them on the internet of fear that some getbigger might find everything about you, adam abeles (and caroline gresham) after a google search :D
I could fit his house twice just in my backyard alone btw. But again, how would you know, I'm not stupid enough to post private infos on the internet, contrary to someone of a "superior intellect" like you right ;D
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Still butthurt cause I randomly expose your and your fugly whore real life names on here, which prevents you and her from using them on the internet of fear that some getbigger might find everything about you, adam abeless (and caroline gresham) after a google search :D
I could fit his house twice just in my backyard alone btw. But again, how would you know, I'm not stupid enough to post private infos on the internet, contrary to someone of a "superior intellect" like you right ;D
Not cool
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Still butthurt cause I randomly expose your and your fugly whore real life names on here, which prevents you and her from using them on the internet of fear that some getbigger might find everything about you, adam abeles (and caroline gresham) after a google search :D
I could fit his house twice just in my backyard alone btw. But again, how would you know, I'm not stupid enough to post private infos on the internet, contrary to someone of a "superior intellect" like you right ;D
Pretty sure we've known Adams real name for a long, long time.
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Do you live in san fransisco adam? I mean, all the gay shit about being a hipster cooking for your gf etc..
http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamabeles
I can picture you selling fucking flowers lol.
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Pretty sure we've known Adams real name for a long, long time.
yeah only about a decade now
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I wonder what excuse he found to prevent her from using her real name on the internet ;)
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It's the random forum on 4chan.
"The Darkie Knight" ;D
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Feel bad for the guy for some reason. Seems like a good dude that was just too idealistic. Ironic in that he probably watch all those cop movies (L.A. Confidential, Training Day, Heat, etc) and didn't realize that the reality was far worse than what the movies portrayed.
Sad to know that he decided to basically end his life over some bullshit. I hope he takes out many pigs on his way out.
good post, man.
truth is stranger than fiction..
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"The Darkie Knight" ;D
Lulz.
And they're listening to the police frequencies over on 4chan, they have military helicopters flying over with thermals looking for him evidently.
Supposedly on a media blackout, and possible that the LAPD has killed an innocent shooting at the wrong truck.
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:D
(http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1360298701399.jpg)
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Still butthurt cause I randomly expose your and your fugly whore real life names on here, which prevents you and her from using them on the internet of fear that some getbigger might find everything about you, adam abeles (and caroline gresham) after a google search :D
I could fit his house twice just in my backyard alone btw. But again, how would you know, I'm not stupid enough to post private infos on the internet, contrary to someone of a "superior intellect" like you right ;D
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I`ve been using my name for over a decade on the internet. You did nothing. Furthermore, your piece of shit house with ZERO land would fit on my property over 50,000 times. The size of your "garden" is pathetic and is what you would find in the inner city. You have no land and your house is not even 2000 square foot.
Hope this helps slumdog.
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I wonder what excuse he found to prevent her from using her real name on the internet ;)
None. Its something you made up. Now tell us, how fat is your wife or do you want the pictures posted?
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None. Its something you made up. Now tell us, how fat is your wife or do you want the pictures posted?
Here are the results you may expect TA from my programs. ;)
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Exactly - what I said 8 hours ago.
Evidently some people are saying that the manifesto they released was manipulated, and that the original didn't involve of the NRA, AWB, media, or stupid other shit.
Possible I guess, considering that this incident could easily be used to push the assault weapons agenda.
Link to supposed original.
http://imgur.com/kbndSWY
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Exactly - what I said 8 hours ago.
It's much more coherent without all that bullshit tacked on.
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If he was a Christian, he might have refrained from killing innocents. It might have given him a better moral framework in his despair. Clearly his athieism isn't working out too well for him.
I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a guy. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being
:D
I like this guy.
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/b/ is having a kick
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If he was a Christian, he might have refrained from killing innocents. It might have given him a better moral framework in his despair. Clearly his athieism isn't working out too well for him.
No. Most murders are committed by Religious people. In this country, the majority of murderers are overwhelmingly Christian.
This Dorner character had a religious education from the start as he went to Private Christians Schools as he stated in his manifesto. That is something to think about perhaps.
He is not killing because of religion or lack of one, he is killing because he thinks its the right thing to do (justifying his revenge) and that it will clear his name in the end.
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No. Most murders are committed by Religious people. In this country, the majority of murderers are overwhelmingly Christian.
This Dorner character had a religious education from the start as he went to Private Christians Schools as he stated in his manifesto. That is something to think about perhaps.
He is not killing because of religion or lack of one, he is killing because he thinks its the right thing to do (justifying his revenge) and that it will clear his name in the end.
Dude is definitely on a mission. You almost have to respect the mans resolve.
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Yes, absolutely.
It's much more coherent without all that bullshit tacked on.
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No. Most murders are committed by Religious people. In this country, the majority of murderers are overwhelmingly Christian.
Yeah, because majority are white or black or hispanic with Christian ancestry, go figure.
But what I said is true, it MAY have helped stem his behaviour, or even stop it.
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Yes, it is like the NYPD has it in law that they have no obligation to protect - but the US politicians tell the people they cannot have guns and have to rely on police for protection ::)
Just reading the manifesto now, better than Breivik's. I like this quote "Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. Theywould not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers thatthey had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place.Sometimes a reset needs to occur
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upsidedown?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth."
or this
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”
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i knew a broad who was a cop for a police dept in SOcal
she would tell me she that her coworkers would always drive drunk, she also said she would pull over drunk cops from other dept would they would just show her their badge and she would let them drive drunk home
Cops do not give a shit about your safety, they only care about hiding behind the badge and being above the law
This is standard MO the world over with cops.
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Yeah, because majority are white or black or hispanic with Christian ancestry, go figure.
But what I said is true, it MAY have helped stem his behaviour, or even stop it.
No. The only thing that would have prevented this is him not being fired from the LAPD. For whatever reason, that was the straw that seemed to break the camels back. Religion has an abysmal track record for stopping murder or preventing it. Besides, if that is the only thing holding people back from committing murder then those people are mentally unstable and batshit insane as they are admitting that otherwise, they would be out killing, raping, stealing-hardly making them moral beings whatsoever.
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You really are a man on a mission aren't you. So much so that you cannot see reason. A lot like this killer.
No. The only thing that would have prevented this is him not being fired from the LAPD. For whatever reason, that was the straw that seemed to break the camels back. Religion has an abysmal track record for stopping murder or preventing it. Besides, if that is the only thing holding people back from committing murder then those people are mentally unstable and batshit insane as they are admitting that otherwise, they would be out killing, raping, stealing-hardly making them moral beings whatsoever.
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You really are a man on a mission aren't you. So much so that you cannot see reason. A lot like this killer.
So the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is religion? Otherwise, you would be out killing with him? Is this correct?
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Take of your blinders - I said it may have helped guide him. If you are seriously suggesting that religious faith cannot help direct people in a better direction then you are closed minded. And I never said it is the only thing that can stop him murdering - your emotional/mental state clearly effects your intellectual ability.
So the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is religion? Otherwise, you would be out killing with him? Is this correct?
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Take of your blinders - I said it may have helped guide him. If you are seriously suggesting that religious faith cannot help direct people in a better direction then you are closed minded.
Look at the prisoners and their religions. Look at murderers in Prison and their religion. You will find them overwhelmingly Christian or Muslim. Religion does not have a good track record for stopping anything. As I said, if that is the only thing stopping someone from committing such a heinous act then they aren`t stable to begin with and it would be best to avoid these types of people at all costs.
Again, is the only thing preventing you from murdering someone tonight or any night, your religion?
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I have already addressed this. NO IT IS NOT THE ONLY THING AND I NEVER SAID IT WAS.
I have no interest in talking to you. You seem to have some good historical knowledge, but you analytical abilities are terrible.
Look at the prisoners and their religions. Look at murderers in Prison and their religion. You will find them overwhelmingly Christian or Muslim. Religion does not have a good track record for stopping anything. As I said, if that is the only thing stopping someone from committing such a heinous act then they aren`t stable to begin with and it would be best to avoid these types of people at all costs.
Again, is the only thing preventing you from murdering someone tonight or any night, your religion?
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The police.
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Is the cop killing, chink killing, watermelon still on the loose? Is it safe to go to Roscoes?
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He killed two civilians (with guns), and he has an anti-gun manifesto, and you shits are defending him? So you agree that gun control should be encouraged by killing innocent people with GUNS?
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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No, the anti gun people will use ANY reason they can wrap their illogical or disingenuous hands around.
He killed two civilians (with guns), and he has an anti-gun manifesto, and you shits are defending him? So you agree that gun control should be encouraged by killing innocent people with GUNS?
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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You fucking chum eating idiots don't even know what this retard stands for. He is some kind of left wing Obama worshipping, anti gun idiot:
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
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Yes, I pointed that out 10 hours ago in this thread. He is a perfect example of why citizens should be armed and not at the mercy of police to protect them.
NOTE that NYPD police are not legally obliged to protect you at all.
You fucking chum eating idiots don't even know what this retard stands for. He is some kind of left wing Obama worshipping, anti gun idiot:
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
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It's almost impossible to find his full manifesto easily. They don't want you to know one of his main concerns is GUN CONTROL!! Fucking IDIOTS on here!! Fucking low information fucking IDIOTS!!!
http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/ (http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/)
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Thank you Bad Boy Dazza.
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If there is one GUN CONTROL change that comes out of this, it is the need for MUCH STRICTER GUN RESTRICTIONS ON POLICE AND MILITARY when on homeland soil. No fully automatic or semi automatic weapons at all.
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I need to assess the materials first to determine your present condition before I accept payment. I'm a professional with ethics, you know.
;) In developing News, Gods still loves the Children, (Just not the ones from Sandy Hook) Thanks Jon
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I already posted the original uncensored manif 12 hours ago
It's almost impossible to find his full manifesto easily. They don't want you to know one of his main concerns is GUN CONTROL!! Fucking IDIOTS on here!! Fucking low information fucking IDIOTS!!!
http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/ (http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/)
The Manifesto
Uncensored Manifesto from Retired LAPD Officer Christopher Dorner
Its just way to long to post on GB so ill link it
http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveyDsHipHopCorner-theBlog+%28Davey+D%27s+Hip+Hop+Corner%29 (http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveyDsHipHopCorner-theBlog+%28Davey+D%27s+Hip+Hop+Corner%29)
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You blokes are slow on the uptake, I knew he was anti gun all along, good to see the Gun Nutters typical slow reaction and the dejected WTF!
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HA HA, he even has a go at Zimmerpig: this dude is definitely a getbigger
"If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court."
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Just goes to show you- "it's a fine line between cop and crook".
Fu-k the cops are shooting up innocent people in Torrence thinking that two
women delivering papers were actually the man.
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Just goes to show you- "it's a fine line between cop and crook".
Fu-k the cops are shooting up innocent people in Torrence thinking that two
women delivering papers were actually the man.
Clearly they didn't even visually id the people they shot - didn't even look at them before shooting.
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Before this damn thread spins out of control, let's stay on course. Where is this prick now? Apparently his last whereabouts was in the woods.
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Just goes to show you- "it's a fine line between cop and crook".
Same thing, they just work on opposite sides, just like opposing cartels. Essentially Police are career criminals, they have to be, it's not an environment for the faint hearted. Just like in organised crime, the cold blooded, ruthless, lying sociopath will rise to the top, this is why the police culture is so bad, the wolves are running the show., no different to a drug cartel, or the mafia or a bikie gang, they even have the same cultural practices, like the code of silence or not shooting the innocent. The similarities between the police and criminal organisations is uncanny.
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Before this damn thread spins out of control, let's stay on course. Where is this prick now? Apparently his last whereabouts was in the woods.
I heard he was at your Mums House!
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Before this damn thread spins out of control, let's stay on course. Where is this prick now? Apparently his last whereabouts was in the woods.
I think he's at Golds Venice. Chest, Smith machine inclines and then who knows?
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I think he's at Golds Venice. Chest, Smith machine inclines and then who knows?
this asshole is probably curling in the squat rack to seek revenge on everyone
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this asshole is probably curling in the squat rack to seek revenge on everyone
that bastard!
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If there is one GUN CONTROL change that comes out of this, it is the need for MUCH STRICTER GUN RESTRICTIONS ON POLICE AND MILITARY when on homeland soil. No fully automatic or semi automatic weapons at all.
So let the criminals have all the good ish? I think not...
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So let the criminals have all the good ish? I think not...
But they say that is OK for law abiding citizens...
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It's almost impossible to find his full manifesto easily. They don't want you to know one of his main concerns is GUN CONTROL!! Fucking IDIOTS on here!! Fucking low information fucking IDIOTS!!!
http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/ (http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/)
And he's using this as a platform...He stated what one would find in his cache..But they say that is OK for law abiding citizens...
Yep, the problem is, a "law abiding citizen" can turn into a criminal, a cop can turn into a criminal, just as we see here.
This is not a gun issue, this is a symptom of a nation falling apart...you didn't have all this 25-30 yrs ago. You are witnessing the meltdown of a nation, and the gun violence is just part of it...
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And he's using this as a platform...He stated what one would find in his cache..Yep, the problem is, a "law abiding citizen" can turn into a criminal, a cop can turn into a criminal, just as we see here.
This is not a gun issue, this is a symptom of a nation falling apart...you didn't have all this 25-30 yrs ago. You are witnessing the meltdown of a nation, and the gun violence is just part of it...
Agreed, America is a shithole!
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This is not a gun issue, this is a symptom of a nation falling apart...you didn't have all this 25-30 yrs ago. You are witnessing the meltdown of a nation, and the gun violence is just part of it...
Exactly, and the politicians and media won't even touch that truth from what I have seen. They are guilty of diverting attention from it. But why? Why are they doing this? Are they lying? In Denial? Both?
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Exactly, and the politicians and media won't even touch that truth from what I have seen. They are guilty of diverting attention from it. But why? Why are they doing this? Are they lying? In Denial? Both?
Americans just aren't too bright, they are very insular and unaware of the world around them, this includes the average media outlet. I said it before, when FIVE YEAR OLD CHILDREN ARE BEING MURDERED AT SCHOOL, you have a failed Country on your hands. This isn't the sign of a healthy democracy, it is a sign of collective mental illness, when a large majority all suffer from this, it appears to be normal. Personally, I think this is just the beginning, Americans don't have the reasoning ability to get through these tough times, they will collapse in a massive pile of shit!
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Americans just aren't too bright, they are very insular and unaware of the world around them, this includes the average media outlet. I said it before, when FIVE YEAR OLD CHILDREN ARE BEING MURDERED AT SCHOOL, you have a failed Country on your hands. This isn't the sign of a healthy democracy, it is a sign of collective mental illness, when a large majority all suffer from this, it appears to be normal. Personally, I think this is just the beginning, Americans don't have the reasoning ability to get through these tough times, they will collapse in a massive pile of shit!
Where are you from?
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New just in on CNN
Tbombz has tracked the killer down and offered himself as a hostage
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New just in on CNN
Tbombz has tracked the killer down and offered himself as a hostage
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Exactly, and the politicians and media won't even touch that truth from what I have seen. They are guilty of diverting attention from it. But why? Why are they doing this? Are they lying? In Denial? Both?
denial, delusion, greed, ignorance...
And cowardice.
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Where are you from?
Australia, a place where 5 year olds are safe to go to school where there are no armed guards, weapons detectors, prison like atmosphere and fear of being murdered, All this has been achieved with strict gun control and no gun culture. Crazy considering that guns make everyone safer!
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You just described the Australian culture BEFORE gun control. Gun control did not give us these things, we already had them.
Australia, a place where 5 year olds are safe to go to school where there are no armed guards, weapons detectors, prison like atmosphere and fear of being murdered, All this has been achieved with strict gun control and no gun culture. Crazy considering that guns make everyone safer!
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You just described the Australian culture BEFORE gun control. Gun control did not give us these things, we already had them.
No we didn't, prior to Gun Control their were 11 mass shootings in Australia, in the 16 years that have followed their have been ZERO. Had their been no Gun Control, Australia's situation would be far worse and just like America the mass shootings would have increased. The only people who dispute this are Gun Nutters, but nobody listens to them because they have a vested interest and are well known to be a little cuckoo!, if you know what I mean!
The AR-10 semi-automatic rifle used in the The Port Arthur massacre where 35 people were killed and 23 wounded, was purchased via a newspaper advertisement. even though the purchaser lacked a gun licence or a driver's license. This could NEVER happen today.
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That is a lie. Those so called mass shootings you refer too were primarily colonial battles with the aboriginal population. To count those as a comparison you would have to count the American Indian wars as well.
No we didn't, prior to Gun Control their were 11 mass shootings in Australia, in the 16 years that have followed their have been ZERO. Had their been no Gun Control, Australia's situation would be far worse and just like America the mass shootings would have increased. The only people who dispute this are Gun Nutters, but nobody listens to them because they have a vested interest and are well known to be a little cuckoo!, if you know what I mean!
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And do you know that this guy was KNOWN TO THE POLICE as a complete nut job long before the massacre, BUT THEY DID NOTHING. He was known for shooting at people BEFORE the massacre and the police did nothing.
The AR-10 semi-automatic rifle used in the The Port Arthur massacre where 35 people were killed and 23 wounded, was purchased via a newspaper advertisement. even though the purchaser lacked a gun licence or a driver's license. This could NEVER happen today.
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That is a lie. Those so called mass shootings you refer too were primarily colonial battles with the aboriginal population. To count those as a comparison you would have to count the American Indian wars as well.
That's complete Bullshit, and typical of the type of misinformation Gun Nutters like to put out there. 10 of those 11 mass shootings were from 1971 onwards - absolutely nothing to do with colonial battles with aborigines.
1) Clifford Bartholomew massacre - A man shot dead ten members of his family in Hope Forest near Adelaide, September 1971.
2) 22 September 1976 - William Robert Wilson - Killed two people and wounded four in Brisbane. Wilson took a .22 calibre rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition to Boundary Street and began shooting randomly.
3) Milperra massacre - Two biker gangs, the Comanchero and the Bandidos, engaged in a shoot-out in a hotel car park, killing 7 people in 1984
4) Joseph Schwab - 1987, Schwab shot dead 5 people in and around the Kimberley region in Western Australia before being shot dead by police
5) Hoddle Street massacre - Armed with two rifles and a shotgun, Julian Knight shot 7 people dead and wounded another 19 in 1987 before surrendering to authorities.
6) Queen Street massacre - Armed with a sawn-off rifle, Frank Vitkovic roamed the Australia Post building killing 8 and wounding 5, also in 1987
7) Surry Hills massacre - Paul Anthony Evers killed 5 people with a 12-gauge shotgun at a public housing precinct in Surry Hills in 1990 before surrendering to police.
8 ) Strathfield massacre - In 1991 Wade Frankum killed 7 people and wounded 6 others with an SKS
9) Central Coast Massacre - Malcolm Baker killed 6 people and injured another with a shotgun in 1992 before being arrested by police.
10) Port Arthur massacre - In 1996, armed with two semi-automatic rifles, Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur and wounded
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E-Kul is a PAID gimmick, along the lines of blacken, Straw Man, andreisdeman, and Benny B who continue to spew out pre-digested nonsense fed to them by their employers. Your constant regurgitation of stupidity is not going to be changing any minds on a bodybuilding board. This asshole continues to paint 300+ million Americans including the thousands in the law enforcement community with one single stroke................ho wever, your uninformed ramblings and irrational gun, pitbull, and hair phobias do provide some amusement.
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I just took the time to read this fucks manifesto, here is a summary
a) hes convinced that all wrong that came to him was because he was black
b) he loves black and anyone who supports black
c) thinks all whites are after him and all blacks
funny thing is, a black jury will find him not guilty because there is this BS in this country that blacks have no chance, fact is at least in nyc and la, blacks can do what they wish just like whites
again, hes a byproduct of this non stop mental training that blacks are told that if they get fired, not hired, cant afford what they want etc its all because they are black
they need to catch him quick, this is a real mental case
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Apologies, I thought you were referring to the aboriginal conflicts/wars. Those shootings were so rare almost nobody remembers them **except maybe three of the most notorious**.
Still, freedom does not come for free. We can allow ourselves to be protected by the GOVT and POLICE, who will always arrive long after the event, or we can protect ourselves, who are always present at the conflict.
That's complete Bullshit, and typical of the type of misinformation Gun Nutters like to put out there. 10 of those 11 mass shootings were from 1971 onwards - absolutely nothing to do with colonial battles with aborigines.
1) Clifford Bartholomew massacre - A man shot dead ten members of his family in Hope Forest near Adelaide, September 1971.
2) 22 September 1976 - William Robert Wilson - Killed two people and wounded four in Brisbane. Wilson took a .22 calibre rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition to Boundary Street and began shooting randomly.
3) Milperra massacre - Two biker gangs, the Comanchero and the Bandidos, engaged in a shoot-out in a hotel car park, killing 7 people in 1984
4) Joseph Schwab - 1987, Schwab shot dead 5 people in and around the Kimberley region in Western Australia before being shot dead by police
5) Hoddle Street massacre - Armed with two rifles and a shotgun, Julian Knight shot 7 people dead and wounded another 19 in 1987 before surrendering to authorities.
6) Queen Street massacre - Armed with a sawn-off rifle, Frank Vitkovic roamed the Australia Post building killing 8 and wounding 5, also in 1987
7) Surry Hills massacre - Paul Anthony Evers killed 5 people with a 12-gauge shotgun at a public housing precinct in Surry Hills in 1990 before surrendering to police.
8 ) Strathfield massacre - In 1991 Wade Frankum killed 7 people and wounded 6 others with an SKS
9) Central Coast Massacre - Malcolm Baker killed 6 people and injured another with a shotgun in 1992 before being arrested by police.
10) Port Arthur massacre - In 1996, armed with two semi-automatic rifles, Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur and wounded
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It's true, E-Kul does show all the signs of being a government schill.
E-Kul is a PAID gimmick, along the lines of blacken, Straw Man, andreisdeman, and Benny B who continue to spew out pre-digested nonsense fed to them by their employers. Your constant regurgitation of stupidity is not going to be changing any minds on a bodybuilding board. This asshole continues to paint 300+ million Americans including the thousands in the law enforcement community with one single stroke................ho wever, your uninformed ramblings and irrational gun, pitbull, and hair phobias do provide some amusement.
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Agreed, America is a shithole!
Fuck off, you aussies can't even buy pop tarts in the store because your guv decided they were not good for you
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Ha ha not too far from the truth.
Fuck off, you aussies can't even buy pop tarts in the store because your guv decided they were not good for you
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-anderson-cooper_n_2641217.html
Sending shit to Anderson Cooper?
Shit is getting wierd!
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Black History Month 2013 began on
Friday, February 1
and ends on
Thursday, February 28
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Australia, a place where 5 year olds are safe to go to school where there are no armed guards, weapons detectors, prison like atmosphere and fear of being murdered, All this has been achieved with strict gun control and no gun culture. Crazy considering that guns make everyone safer!
I didn't know that Australia harboured imbeciles like you although it's common knowledge that snakes lurk there.
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E-kul trolled hard for 16 fucking pages before you morons bit.
Stop responding to him until his frustration causes him to explode.
::) ::) ::)
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I don't remember there being so many frenzy right wing nut jobs in GB for a long time
Why do wack jobs in Internet forums always have to be right wing I am not sure. My best guess is lack of gainfull employment opportunities as u all post during US working hours
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Apparently they have his cornered now.
the problem is he has set a fire in the woods
on it are burning
the secret plans for US homeland defence
the location of several castles
the recipe for original kigs
hold on......... it couldn't be an 'elf' could it?
I knew GH15 was powerful now its all coming to fruition.
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Is the cop killing, chink killing, watermelon still on the loose? Is it safe to go to Roscoes?
Lol!
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It's almost impossible to find his full manifesto easily. They don't want you to know one of his main concerns is GUN CONTROL!! Fucking IDIOTS on here!! Fucking low information fucking IDIOTS!!!
http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/ (http://www.armoryblog.com/news/dorners-manifesto-supports-awb-increased-gun-control/)
He is a perfect example of why citizens should be armed and not at the mercy of police to protect them.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-anderson-cooper_n_2641217.html
Sending shit to Anderson Cooper?
Shit is getting wierd!
This shit is getting weird. If he's dragging our American hero Mr.Anderson into this, then nobody will have a great gym partner from the newsroom.
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(http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/dorner%20presser%20lapd%20soqui.JPG)
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Someone should have told the dumb cops that they have the same picture twice
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I just took the time to read this fucks manifesto, here is a summary
a) hes convinced that all wrong that came to him was because he was black
b) he loves black and anyone who supports black
c) thinks all whites are after him and all blacks
funny thing is, a black jury will find him not guilty because there is this BS in this country that blacks have no chance, fact is at least in nyc and la, blacks can do what they wish just like whites
again, hes a byproduct of this non stop mental training that blacks are told that if they get fired, not hired, cant afford what they want etc its all because they are black
they need to catch him quick, this is a real mental case
Shut your ignorant mouth before I run you off this board fagg. You're in my scope. That's not good for you.
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The rain is falling today in big bear and snow is called for at night
the cops already stopped flying the choppers up there due to the weather
LOL, dude probably had a motorcycle up there and is already in mexico
Facebook already took down his page, but he had pic of him on motorcycles with his homies
(http://www.xcor.com/press-releases/2012/images/12-04-13_motorcycle-trip-3490.jpg)
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Wigglet getting all uppity! :o
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Wigglet getting all uppity! :o
Watch it convict! >:(
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Won't be so easy for them this time. They are not preying on the helpless.
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/tnpItd0tGywm.jpg)
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Watch it convict! >:(
Keep focused, boy, you don't want none of this.
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Won't be so easy for them this time. They are not preying on the helpless.
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/tnpItd0tGywm.jpg)
;D
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Keep focused, boy, you don't want none of this.
What exactly would you do? LOL. I would render you helpless in seconds. I'll bury you under the tires you love to flip so much. A fitting tribute.
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I wonder if he will friend me on facebook?
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Fan page:
http://www.facebook.com/ChristopherJordanDornerArebel
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lol
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If big boy keeps running he'll soon be catabolic.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/223575_486844998040285_361183197_n.jpg)
If this is true,then why are Americans Rude, Selfish and anti-social. Something isn't adding up,
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http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_burned_truck_found.php (http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_burned_truck_found.php)
The Nissan titan on fire was first reported at 8:30 a.m and cops didnt show up til almost 2pm
OH BROTHER ::)
LAPD is just full of Morons ... this dude can already be in Texas passing the boarder by now, while they are still in big bear building snow man
(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/46/a4b3241a235048e189bef034f9e7eeb4/l.jpg)
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Keystone cops
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I told you this guy was going to get away. He's too smart.
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WOW the cops were already hated, but now they are hated 10 times more. Wouldn't wanna be a pig.
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Fixed
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all of a sudden ASSAULT weapons are ok on the streets
::) ::)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/2/8/1360320732108/Manhunt-for-Christopher-D-016.jpg)
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/02/07/la_police00001-4_3_rx512_c680x510.jpg?0f5c31de35bf4ef88a50c2e35ee3bc4da4bf3083)
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if he set his truck off at 8.a.m with a controlled explosion I would guess he was hours away when it went up in smoke.
which means he will sat off in mexico laughing his arse off
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if he set his truck off at 8.a.m with a controlled explosion I would guess he was hours away when it went up in smoke.
which means he will sat off in mexico laughing his arse off
This dude is not done taking people out. Maybe he is going to reload down in Mexico and get some Fast n Furious guns and come back?
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more like "I didn't get my way so now I'll show them! They'll see!" It's the classic temper tantrum.
Immature lowlife with little to now impulse control and rational thinking.
They should screen better for these arrested development types so they don't receive any military or police training.
Rami, there is no honor in turning the other cheek.
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This dude is not done taking people out. Maybe he is going to reload down in Mexico and get some Fast n Furious guns and come back?
That would be his best move. Lay low and strike when the attention is off.
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This dude is not done taking people out. Maybe he is going to reload down in Mexico and get some Fast n Furious guns and come back?
I think that too, perhaps not Mexico, but I do see him hiding out for a time. He hasn't shown that he wants to go "spree killer" style, but he does want fame and folk hero status. I think he'll lay low till the man hunt dies down, then try for another person on his list.
Good chance they might catch him soon though if he stays urban, he's too distinctive looking to stay anonymous the U.S. .
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Cops All over Southern Cal. are loving this, they will be MILKING this OVERTIME pay for weeks if not months
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Rami, there is no honor in turning the other cheek.
but you can walk away from it and never look back, get your life together and try something else instead of obsessing over things or people you don't agree with.
and what's the point of clearing your name if you're a guy who kills innocent people out of vengeance. I guess the truth about what kind of person he really is on display by his actions. He seems to be unable to put 2 and 2 together.
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Holy shit....they are reporting that Dorner is not only armed with Desert Eagle Pistols but also a Barrett M82 rifle and a SA7 Manpad!!!! He is prepared for war!!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/M82A1_afmil.jpg)
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Holy shit....they are reporting that Dorner is not only armed with Desert Eagle Pistols but also a Barrett M82 rifle!!!! He is prepared for war!!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/M82A1_afmil.jpg)
GET SOME!!! UH UH UH GET SOME!!!!!
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Fixed
How much are they paying you?
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If this is true,then why are Americans Rude, Selfish and anti-social. Something isn't adding up,
When was the last time you've been to America?
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What exactly would you do? LOL. I would render you helpless in seconds. I'll bury you under the tires you love to flip so much. A fitting tribute.
Careful Mr Dorner.... ;)
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Careful Mr Dorner.... ;)
LOL....It wasn't a death threat.
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LOL....It wasn't a death threat.
8)
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i was listening to a local Talk Radio show at lunch and they had an israeli soldier i didnt get the guys name so he was talking to bill carol on kfi 640
and dumb fuck israeli soldier was saying how Christopher was at best a boy scout of america that his lack of training was almost childish
yet this guy christopher has managed to kill 2 people, ambush 2 officers in one scene , shot and injure another officer at another scene , drive all around Los Angeles , Orange county , San Bernardio, San Diego , and escape All the thousands of officers and helicopters after him
Yea Amature and a boy scout , Stupid Fucking Jew, he should stick to what he is good at, killing palestinians in Sandals that throw rocks ::) ::) ::)
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Rambo of today is a fat, balding, angry black man.
politically correct.
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i was listening to a local Talk Radio show at lunch and they had an israeli soldier i didnt get the guys name so he was talking to bill carol on kfi 640
Yea Amature and a boy scout , Stupid Fucking Jew, he should stick to what he is good at, killing palestinians in Sandals that throw rocks ::) ::) ::)
well, jews are stupid. but how hard were these killings? all the people killed were ambushed while sitting in cars. very couragous ::)
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well, jews are stupid. but how hard were these killings? all the people killed were ambushed while sitting in cars. very couragous ::)
were not the officers waiting outside the cops home , ready to ambush Christopher as well? but instead ambushed and shot 3 innocent people???
what's good for the good is good for the hen, Right?
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were not the officers waiting outside the cops home , ready to ambush Christopher as well? but instead ambushed and shot 3 innocent people???
what's good for the good is good for the hen, Right?
no, they were stopped at a red light. they had nothing to do with the investigation.
of wait, but he did kill a 20 sometihng year old woman (also sitting in a car) so that was pretty admirable ::)
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Cops All over Southern Cal. are loving this, they will be MILKING this OVERTIME pay for weeks if not months!
Boom! ^
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Wouldn't it have been more effective to just hit the targets without warning and then post the 'manifesto' if he still wanted? He hasn't killed a single person who screwed him over and they'll be a lot harder to get now. Worst revenge ever.
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Tactics with out strategy... is the noise before defeat.
Sun Tzu
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Wouldn't it have been more effective to just hit the targets without warning and then post the 'manifesto' if he still wanted? He hasn't killed a single person who screwed him over and they'll be a lot harder to get now. Worst revenge ever.
He doesn't want to kill those who fucked him over, he doesn't want them dead, he wants maximum effect, so he is going for the loved ones of those who fucked him over, and so far, he has taken out the daughter (Monica Quan)and her partner of his main enemy (Randy Quan, a former police captain and attorney who represented Dorner when he was dismissed from the LAPD). I am sure if he gets the chance, he will continue on with the same tactic.
(http://media.heavy.com/media/2013/02/Monice-Quan.jpg)
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Las Vegas gun dealer said murder suspect Dorner was a customer, but did not buy firearms ...
http://www.dailybulletin.com ^ | Posted: 02/08/2013 01:13:14 PM PST | Andrew Edwards
Posted on February 8, 2013 4:49:26 PM EST by Red Badger
The manager of the Las Vegas gun store that murder suspect and fired Los Angeles Police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner criticized in his manifesto said Dorner was a customer, but never purchased any firearms there.
Tony Melendez, manager of Lock N Load said all customers' purchases are confidential, but the store never sold a gun to Dorner because he was a California resident.
"He never purchased any firearms in the store," Melendez said.
A California resident would not be able to legally purchase a firearm in Nevada or another state without having the weapon transferred to a federally-licensed gun dealer in California.
Southern California law enforcement officers escalated a manhunt for Dorner on Thursday after he allegedly used a rifle killed one Riverside police officer and wounded another during an early morning ambush attack.
The multi-agency manhunt for Dorner is currently focused on the Bear Valley area.
Dorner is also suspected in the Sunday night killing of Cal State Fullerton assistant women's basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiancee, USC public safety officer Keith Lawrence.
Quan, 28, was the daughter of Randal Quan, a retired Los Angeles police captain who became an attorney. Quan represented Dorner at the LAPD hearing that led to Dorner's firing.
Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he believes he was unjustly terminated for reporting police brutality and is willing to commit"horrendous murders" and "necessary evil" to change the LAPD.
The rambling manifesto also complains that gun laws are too loose and Dorner states he made multiple purchases of suppressors with a trust account he created using Quicken software to avoid a proper background check.
Although Dorner does not specifically say what he purchased from Lock N Load, he singled out the Las Vegas gun retailer for verbal attack.
"Lock N Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III (sic) weapons with just a notarized trust, miltary ID. Shame on you Lock N Load," Dorner wrote.
A Class III firearms license allows a dealer to sell silencers, machine guns and short-barrelled rifles or shotguns regulated by the National Firearms Act.
Dorner's manifesto also attacks several police officers, National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre, the Westboro Baptist Church and people who have doubted President Barack Obama's status as a natural born citizen.
"Nobody likes to hear the name of their business listed in this manner, but this is a guy whose pain goes deeper," Melendez said.
Melendez recalled that Dorner visited the gun store about once every other month, or about four times since he has been employed at the store.
"This was a guy who appeared to us as your average gun enthusiast," Melendez said. "Very personable. Very kind. Very friendly."
Irvine Police Lt. Julia Ingen said the department is not identifying what kind of weapon Dorner is suspected of using to kill Quan and Lawrence to avoid jeopardizing their investigation.
Other law enforcement officials involved in the Bear Valley search have also refrained from saying which guns Dorner is suspected of using.
Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck, however, said Thursday that Dorner is believed to in possession of multiple weapons, including assault rifles.
The Los Angeles News Group contributed to this report
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Nevada; Click to Add Topic
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i wonder if they know where he is, but are just waiting it to bank more hours + overtime ect..
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This shit is getting weird. If he's dragging our American hero Mr.Anderson into this, then nobody will have a great gym partner from the newsroom.
Anderson Cooper...Another admitted CIA guy...Has he talked about Jesse Ventura yet?
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He doesn't want to kill those who fucked him over, he doesn't want them dead, he wants maximum effect, so he is going for the loved ones of those who fucked him over, and so far, he has taken out the daughter (Monica Quan)and her partner of his main enemy (Randy Quan, a former police captain and attorney who represented Dorner when he was dismissed from the LAPD). I am sure if he gets the chance, he will continue on with the same tactic.
(http://media.heavy.com/media/2013/02/Monice-Quan.jpg)
How are his chances now that he told the whole world who he is and what he plans? ::) Every potential target is overseas by now and won't return until he's dead. Any other killings will just be random cops who never even met the guy.
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How are his chances now that he told the whole world who he is and what he plans? ::) Every potential target is overseas by now and won't return until he's dead. Any other killings will just be random cops who never even met the guy.
But, but, he's an american folk hero just sticking it to the man.....and innocent victims.
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Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com ^ | 02-08-13 | By Tracy Connor
Posted on February 8, 2013 3:15:18 PM EST by Red Badger
A mother and daughter who were mistakenly shot by Los Angeles police hunting for rampage suspect Christopher Dorner had no warning before bullets started whizzing through their newspaper-delivery truck, their lawyer said Friday.
“No command, no instruction, no warning. They just opened fire on them,” said Glen Jonas, who is representing Emma Hernandez, 71, and Margie Carranza, 47, in possible legal action against the LAPD.
“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”
Both women survived. Hernandez, shot in the back, was in good condition Friday. Her daughter suffered a hand injury during the shooting and is now physically fine, but emotionally scarred, Jonas said.
The LAPD admits the predawn Thursday shooting was a case of mistaken identity that unfolded while police were guarding the Torrance home of someone named in a manifesto that ex-cop Dorner posted online about his twisted plans to avenge his firing.
Chief Charlie Beck said the officers saw a vehicle that matched the description of Dorner’s, driving through the dark streets with no headlights – and a “police-involved shooting” ensued.
Jonas said the women’s blue Toyota Tacoma looked nothing like Dorner’s dark-gray Nissan Titan, but that even if it had been a match, the police should not have fired on it.
“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”
The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.
He said he expects the city will offer his clients a substantial payout; if not, he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit.
“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”
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But, but, he's an american folk hero just sticking it to a man.....and innocent victims.
CJD brings asymmetrical warfare.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loq23v8NsN1qa7s2po1_400.png)
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So ya just went ahead and told everyone the plan, huh? Ya.
WAY TO GO, A-HOLE!
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What exactly would you do? LOL. I would render you helpless in seconds. I'll bury you under the tires you love to flip so much. A fitting tribute.
Wouldn't you have to be strong enough to move the tire before you could bury him with it? ???
Clearly you haven't thought this one through.
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CJD brings asymmetrical warfare.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loq23v8NsN1qa7s2po1_400.png)
Do not underestimate negro rambo. His asymmetrical warfare is so asymmetrical that it's symmetrical.
Prepare to have your mind blown.
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“NO command, NO instruction, NO warning. They just opened fire on them,”
“They had NO idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up, and praying and hoping they’re NOT going to die.”
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cool.
kill all these fucking cops.
i don't give a fuck.
kill them all.
innocent women shot at because they were driving around in the dark with no lights on? STFU another lie by dumb dirty cops. kill them!
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“NO command, NO instruction, NO warning. They just opened fire on them,”
“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up, and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”
Hahahahha. Plus the piglets fired 25+ shots and only hit the girls two times.hahahajahha
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ABC news just reported that he may be carring a missile launcher
A Missile Launcher
These mother fuckers will say anything to Feed the sheep more war on terror bullshit
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsbgiiYKBi1r30yjlo1_500.gif)
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Civilians shouldn't have guns... ::)
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Whats the over/under on how many more cops this guy is going to take out before his demise ?
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Do not underestimate negro rambo. His asymmetrical warfare is so asymmetrical that it's symmetrical.
Prepare to have your mind blown.
He was trained in the Navy. His next attack will be by boat.
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He was trained in the Navy. His next attack will be by boat.
Too symmetrical. His next attack will be super asymmetrical.
In fact, it will be so asymmetrical that it won't even be an attack. He will just tape a picture of his face to an officer he wants dead, and then all the other officers will shoot at the picture.
I mean, they shot at a truck that was the wrong make, model, and color, why would shooting at people be any different?
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He will die of a self-inflicted gun wound, likely.
Or...he engages in a shoot-out with (this time) prepared officers tac'd out and the cabin he's holed up in will have hundreds of bullet holes in it.
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He will die of a self-inflicted gun wound, likely.
Or...he engages in a shoot-out with (this time) prepared officers tac'd out and the cabin he's holed up in will have hundreds of bullet holes in it.
I don't think he's that dumb.. if he's going to go out it will be in a well prepared ambush, dudes not going to wait for them to come find him.
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I don't think he's that dumb.. if he's going to go out it will be in a well prepared ambush, dudes not going to wait for them to come find him.
Why did he wait till now? 3 years?
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Why did he wait till now? 3 years?
Preparing.
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ABC news just reported that he may be carring a missile launcher
A Missile Launcher
These mother fuckers will say anything to Feed the sheep more war on terror bullshit
BOOOM!
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ABC news just reported that he may be carring a missile launcher
A Missile Launcher
These mother fuckers will say anything to Feed the sheep more war on terror bullshit
BOOOM!
Cool. Remember that gun buyback w the missle launcher shell?
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ABC news just reported that he may be carring a missile launcher
A Missile Launcher
These mother fuckers will say anything to Feed the sheep more war on terror bullshit
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsbgiiYKBi1r30yjlo1_500.gif)
LOL.........I just heard he may have up to 30 guns on him....seriously. they just said with a straight face this guy is lugging 30 guns around. hahahaahaaaaaaa
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I don't think they know shit, just that he eluded to the possibility of him having access to a MANPAD.
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(http://blogs.dailyrecord.com/photojournalist/files/2009/01/two.jpg)
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Kinda hard to be discreet while on the run with one of these!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Sa-7.jpg/485px-Sa-7.jpg)
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Remember that movie Falling Down?
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dormer is falling down. the system has failed him.
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DE FENSE!
"D-Fens"
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DE FENSE!
"D-Fens"
Bas Rutten CD flashback!!!!
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Bas Rutten CD flashback!!!!
We get it. Lithium - take it. ::)
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The word just came in from Anderson Cooper, news update - Mr.Dorner is getting assisted by the Russians and the ChinaMan with Apache Helicopters, air missiles, surface missiles, air to surface missiles, surface to air missiles, and between the legs missiles. Over and out, 10-4.
PS. Please note The Taliban has sent Mr.Dorner a friend request on his Facebook as well.
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I'm going to assume that when they say missile launcher, they actually meant to say rocket launcher...
jesus christ! thats why I dont listen to the news.
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We get it. Lithium - take it. ::)
Along w Benny B you are probably the 2nd worst poster on this site.
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Have you truly read the manifesto he wrote. (It is in the first part of the threads, page 1). Wow. All I can say.
Precise, accurate and very informative. But he could of made his point a different way, not by killing innocent people to hurt the ones that hurt him. Sad.
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Along w Benny B you are probably the 2nd worst poster on this site.
I understand. The moods; the racial hatreds; the rages and agendas.You get the help you need. :)
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I understand. The moods; the racial hatreds; the rages and agendas.You get the help you need. :)
Other than trolling - what else do you post?
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He won't kill himself. But he will die. If he ills off one more cop killing-escape then hell be a legend in the world of fascists and fucktards
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Other than trolling - what else do you post?
Humour. You: hatred, lying, hypocrisy. racism.
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Humour. You: hatred, lying, hypocrisy. racism.
What have I ever lied about?
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What have I ever lied about?
Well, you're lying about lying, right now. Just like you lied about lying about lying when I last called you out about it, you lying piece of shit. :)
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I'm going to assume that when they say missile launcher, they actually meant to say rocket launcher...
jesus christ! thats why I dont listen to the news.
Yep.
Hopefully nobody else in the area is driving one of these:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/MLRS_missile_launcher.jpg)
The LAPD will open fire on them, too!
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Other than trolling - what else do you post?
says the guy with 100,000 plus posts......hhaahahaahaah aaaaaa
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Well, you're lying about lying, right now. Just like you lied about lying about lying when I last called you out about it, you lying piece of shit. :)
Venile lies.
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says the guy with 100,000 plus posts......hhaahahaahaah aaaaaa
You're no slouch yourself with 18000+ posts. ::)
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says the guy with 100,000 plus posts......hhaahahaahaah aaaaaa
I don't troll people other than Benny.
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I don't troll people other than Benny.
Your whole life is a troll. ::)
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apparently dorner has built a death star and is there with OBL and stalin
this could get messy
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(http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1360374161849.jpg)
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You're no slouch yourself with 18000+ posts. ::)
awwwww........ how cute, the gimmick troll that has racked up amost two thousand posts in two weeks wants my attention :D
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Have you truly read the manifesto he wrote. (It is in the first part of the threads, page 1). Wow. All I can say.
Precise, accurate and very informative. But he could of made his point a different way, not by killing innocent people to hurt the ones that hurt him. Sad.
You might want to stay inside you Ron, you favor this guy at certain angles.
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awwwww........ how cute, the gimmick troll that has racked up amost two thousand posts in two weeks wants my attention :D
Says the gimmick/troll with almost 20000 posts. Get a life, son. Oh, and I'm twice your size. :D
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You might want to stay inside you Ron, you favor this guy at certain angles.
Lol
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(http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1360374161849.jpg)
LOL.
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LOL.
QED.
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;D
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Wiggs and Dorner enter the octagon, who comes out alive? ???
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“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”
The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.
In THE NEW USA, if you are a govt official, under OBAMA, YES YOU CAN.
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In THE NEW USA, if you are a govt official, under OBAMA, YES YOU CAN.
The government use to serve the people, now it's the other way around.
I never thought I could miss George W. :-\
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;D
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Self-described-convicted-felon.
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I remember this one time , when i was about 23 or so, i got pulled for one blown bulb in my rear license plate , anyways long story short
they made me get out the car and the female officer asked me for my wallet, she took everything out of it , License, credit cards, money and tossed it all on the floor when she was done sifting thru it
i coulda smashed that fucking K UNTS face in , if she want a pig protected by a badge
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I remember this one time , when i was about 23 or so, i got pulled for one blown bulb in my rear license plate , anyways long story short
they made me get out the car and the female officer asked me for my wallet, she took everything out of it , License, credit cards, money and tossed it all on the floor when she was done sifting thru it
i coulda smashed that fucking K UNTS face in , if she want a pig protected by a badge
Were you under arrest? Did you give her the wallet?
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He's a 270lb mobile fatass. I'm a 218lb athletic assassin. I'm faster, stronger, smarter and tougher. Of course I'd win. Not even a question.
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The Police Have Released New Surveillance-Video Images Of The LAPD's Most Wanted Man
Abby Rogers|Feb. 8, 2013, 8:36 PM|745|3
As at least one hundred law enforcement officers continue to scour Big Bear Mountain, the ski-resort area outside Los Angeles, for an ex-cop accused of killing one cop and shooting two others, police in Irvine, Calif. have released new images of the suspect.
Christopher Dorner, who was reportedly fired from the Los Angeles Police Department in 2009, is suspected of killing the daughter of an LAPD captain and her fiancé before shooting three police officers, one of whom died.
The Irvine Police Department released Friday surveillance-camera images of Dorner taken Jan. 28 at an Orange County hotel, CBS Los Angeles reported Friday.
Check out the images:
Irvine Police Department via CBS Los Angeles
The search for Dorner has focused on Big Bear, which is about 100 miles northeast of Los Angeles.
However, the city of Los Angeles had a scare this afternoon when someone mistakenly reported seeing Dorner at the jail.
The report turned out to be a false alarm.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/christopher-dorner-surveillance-images-2013-2#ixzz2KMn1yQYK
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Looks like CC Sabathia
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Lol @ the look alikes
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So wait! Now there's like 10 killers on the loose?
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Get CC Sabathia in there!
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Were you under arrest? Did you give her the wallet?
no it was a blown license plate, did not even get a fix a ticket
they simply wanted to bust my chops
i have never been arrested my entire life
yea , thats what pissed me off , i handed her my wallet nicely she proceeded to take everything out , and when she was done tossed it all on the floor for me to pick up and sort back together
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This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain Rolando Solano is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. Gettler in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).
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i hope charlie beck becomes one of his victims, guy is a major pos
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:D
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no it was a blown license plate, did not even get a fix a ticket
they simply wanted to bust my chops
i have never been arrested my entire life
yea , thats what pissed me off , i handed her my wallet nicely she proceeded to take everything out , and when she was done tossed it all on the floor for me to pick up and sort back together
It would be better had you not consented to give her the wallet.
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:D
Hi Liar. And general POS. :)
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Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate. - Chris Dorner
this is so true, how else did Nikki Catsouras grusome death pictures end up on the Internet
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Hi Liar. And general POS. :)
F off troll. You are like the a said remenent of SMM
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if people would stand up and do what chris dorner has, america and the world would be a better place
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Negro Rambo is unstoppable.
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he get someone else?
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Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.
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Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.
shheeessshhhhh!!!!!
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please. that dude had no skillz.
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Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.
Fucking legit talk.
We'll see if he backs it up... but so far he appears legit.
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F off troll. You are like the a said remenent of SMM
Moi? Liar. Hypocrite. Please? ::)
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Moi? Liar. Hypocrite. Please? ::)
Post your pics on stage chief.
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Negro Rambo is unstoppable.
Lol
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Even Rambo turned himself in and went to prison in the end.
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Post your pics on stage chief.
Ha! Nice try, liar. It's called 'Non sequitur.' ;)
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He's a 270lb mobile fatass. I'm a 218lb athletic assassin. I'm faster, stronger, smarter and tougher. Of course I'd win. Not even a question.
I legit LOLed.
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"Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate." - Chris Dorner
this is so true, how else did Nikki Catsouras grusome death pictures end up on the Internet
Dude is dead on with this.
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haha... I'm putting my money on Corporal Wiggins.
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Ha! Nice try, liar. It's called 'Non sequitur.' ;)
No - its called me putting up when called out and you being a negative troll. Put up or shut up
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No - its called me putting up when called out and you being a negative troll. Put up or shut up
You mean like every other thread that you call some one out!? Sure. I'll meet you at lunchtime, in the smoking area. Retard/Moron. ::)
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You mean like every other thread that you call some one out!? Sure. I'll meet you at lunchtime, in the smoking area. Retard/Moron. ::)
The only idiots on this site i call out are Benny and WOOO.
I'm cool w everyone else.
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Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate. - Chris Dorner
this is so true, how else did Nikki Catsouras grusome death pictures end up on the Internet
Hey Nails.. fuck you. Sorry some female cop threw your wallet contents on the ground. That wasn't right. Other than that...fuck you
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The only idiots on this site i call out are Benny and WOOO.
I'm cool w everyone else.
Sorry, are you deluded. With your post count, and your yapping, most people just put up with you because you're a bully - but you know that.
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Have you truly read the manifesto he wrote. (It is in the first part of the threads, page 1). Wow. All I can say.
Precise, accurate and very informative. But he could of made his point a different way, not by killing innocent people to hurt the ones that hurt him. Sad.
Yes, I read most of it. But the guy while precise, accurate, and imformative ( as you put it ) is a complete psycho as well. His depression and unstable mental status just jumps off of the pages as you read it.
Im surprised you would say something like this Ron. SMH
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Yes, I read most of it. But the guy while precise, accurate, and imformative ( as you put it ) is a complete psycho as well. His depression and unstable mental status just jumps off of the pages as you read it.
Im surprised you would say something like this Ron. SMH
you make some good points, 'balls.
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The piglets shot the old ladies truck 50 TIMES and shot the neighbors house 50+ times. hahahhahhaha
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The piglets shot the old ladies truck 50 TIMES and shot the neighbors house 50+ times. hahahhahhaha
Mothballs would have you believe that the psycho is in fact Christopher , but the trail of lies and bullet holes shot all over Southern California belong to the guns of LAPD officers
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Mothballs would have you believe that the psycho is in fact Christopher , but the trail of lies and bullet holes shot all over Southern California belong to the guns of LAPD officers
he prefers that we refer to him as 'balls.
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lapd has always been corrupt - it's what it takes to inspire good movies.
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lol
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he prefers that we refer to him as 'balls.
Touche' young Jadeveon.
Your mom prefers my balls in her mouth.
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Mothballs would have you believe that the psycho is in fact Christopher , but the trail of lies and bullet holes shot all over Southern California belong to the guns of LAPD officers
I dont believe he is a psycho at all.
He's just not 100% mentally stable and I would say he's precise and accurate like Ron said.
I actually think this guy is telling the truth and he was unjustly fired. But that obviously put him in a very bad place.
Its sad because he's a pretty bright guy. Obviously! Just look at how he's outsmarting the entire LAPD and every other law enforcement agency thats taking part in this manhunt.
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Touche' young Jadeveon.
Your mom prefers my balls in her mouth.
mom has always had a thing for raisins...
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I dont believe he is a psycho at all.
He's just not 100% mentally stable and I would say he's precise and accurate like Ron said.
I actually think this guy is telling the truth and he was unjustly fired. But that obviously put him in a very bad place.
Its sad because he's a pretty bright guy. Obviously! Just look at how he's outsmarting the entire LAPD and every other law enforcement agency thats taking part in this manhunt.
Yeah, not quite like all the Police shows on TV, or all the episodes of COPS where they instantly take down the bad guy and no one ever bests the police, is it? Lol.
I always laugh at those shows, the Police always get their man no matter what.
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I dont believe he is a psycho at all.
He's just not 100% mentally stable and I would say he's precise and accurate like Ron said.
I actually think this guy is telling the truth and he was unjustly fired. But that obviously put him in a very bad place.
Its sad because he's a pretty bright guy. Obviously! Just look at how he's outsmarting the entire LAPD and every other law enforcement agency thats taking part in this manhunt.
most likely a sociopath
he intentionally chose to murder innocent people which is more sad than the tragic use of his alleged brightness
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Yes, I read most of it. But the guy while precise, accurate, and imformative ( as you put it ) is a complete psycho as well. His depression and unstable mental status just jumps off of the pages as you read it.
Im surprised you would say something like this Ron. SMH
Being mentally unstable does not mean your dumb.
No well in hell this guy is in Big Bear. He's back down in the L.A. basin planning his next move. I can only hope he leaves alone those that are innocent.
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haha... I'm putting my money on Corporal Wiggins.
It's hard out here for a pimp.
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word on the streets is the crips are helping him out.
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It's all fun and games until the FBI becomes unleashed. 8)
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This guy - attacking family of the cops - I bet he learned these tactics from WITHIN the police department.
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It's all fun and games until the FBI becomes unleashed. 8)
what's so great about the FBI?
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what's so great about the FBI?
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what's so great about the FBI?
Not a fucking thing. They have more resources and that's about it.
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I think this dude will kill himself in a way that they will not find his body for a very long time, if ever. He will be dead and these cops will be looking over their shoulder for years to come.
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Yes, I read most of it. But the guy while precise, accurate, and imformative ( as you put it ) is a complete psycho as well. His depression and unstable mental status just jumps off of the pages as you read it.
Im surprised you would say something like this Ron. SMH
he is not a psychopath lol. please look up the definition and do some research on that term, its used so often for the wrong people.
dormer is just an extremely angry person with a heightened perception of self worth.
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What do all you think he is doing right now?
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he is not a psychopath lol. please look up the definition and do some research on that term, its used so often for the wrong people.
dormer is just an extremely angry person with a heightened perception of self worth.
If 'balls says he's a psychopath, he must be a psychopath
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What do all you think he is doing right now?
Chilling.
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I think this dude will kill himself in a way that they will not find his body for a very long time, if ever. He will be dead and these cops will be looking over their shoulder for years to come.
He doesn't appear as the type who'll off himself. No, I think they'll take him out eventually in a bloodbath.
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If 'balls says he's a psychopath, he must be a psychopath
'balls IS getbig royalty i suppose..
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he is not a psychopath lol. please look up the definition and do some research on that term, its used so often for the wrong people.
dormer is just an extremely angry person with a heightened perception of self worth.
extremely angry people dont go out and kill 3 people in a week and arm themselves with enough weaponry to protect a small country.
but yes I will back track and say he's not a psycho....he's just not mentally right at the moment.
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Will we ever see the real content of that DVD?
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A San Bernardino County Sheriff SWAT team returns Friday to the command post at Bear Mountain near Big Bear Lake, Calif. after searching for Christopher Jordan Dorner. Search conditions have been hampered by a heavy winter storm in the area.
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Without the numbers that authorities have, Dorner will likely rely on the element of surprise, experts said.
“He doesn’t even have to stand and fight,” Hall said. “He makes his shot of opportunity and flees.”
http://www.tfponline.com/news/2013/feb/08/hunt-ex-cop-goes-amid-california-snowstorm/?print
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A San Bernardino County Sheriff SWAT team returns Friday to the command post at Bear Mountain near Big Bear Lake, Calif. after searching for Christopher Jordan Dorner. Search conditions have been hampered by a heavy winter storm in the area.
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Dorner owning swat team..
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"Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes."
- dorner
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he is not a psychopath lol. please look up the definition and do some research on that term, its used so often for the wrong people.
dormer is just an extremely angry person with a heightened perception of self worth.
Agreed, he is a narcissist though, and when they get angry or depressed, rather than suicide they are almost always homicidal. Narcissists rarely kill themselves, because in their minds it's always the other people who are the greater problem, they value themselves so much they aren't always good at being realistically objective, they always over evaluate how good they really are, they may be smart, talented etc, but they always inflate the evaluation.
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Agreed, he is a narcissist though, and when they get angry or depressed, rather than suicide they are almost always homicidal. Narcissists rarely kill themselves, because in their minds it's always the other people who are the greater problem, they value themselves so much they aren't always good at being realistically objective, they always over evaluate how good they really are, they may be smart, talented etc, but they always inflate the evaluation.
when will you killyourself? can it be soon?
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Agreed, he is a narcissist though, and when they get angry or depressed, rather than suicide they are almost always homicidal. Narcissists rarely kill themselves, because in their minds it's always the other people who are the greater problem, they value themselves so much they aren't always good at being realistically objective, they always over evaluate how good they really are, they may be smart, talented etc, but they always inflate the evaluation.
If they were truly narcissistic then they themselves would believe they are the only one worthy of putting a bullet in their own head
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Agreed, he is a narcissist though, and when they get angry or depressed, rather than suicide they are almost always homicidal. Narcissists rarely kill themselves, because in their minds it's always the other people who are the greater problem, they value themselves so much they aren't always good at being realistically objective, they always over evaluate how good they really are, they may be smart, talented etc, but they always inflate the evaluation.
Agreed. He wants the attention. They may kill him but he won't kill himself. He's already fantasizing about the tv interviews he will be conducting post capture.
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What I wanna know is WHY DID HIS FAMILY TURN ON HIM? There is nothing in his manifesto which would cause that? There is more to this guy's story for sure.
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What do all you think he is doing right now?
looking at getbig and 4chan?
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What do all you think he is doing right now?
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This guy is the biggest whining fucking pussy on the planet right now. I can believe, that only on Getbig, he's being compared to Rambo...
He loses his job like 5 years ago and still holds a grudge, claiming the race card the whole way home. You guys dont normally stand for this! And for it, he kills some fine young chick in the process. Dude, is a complete shit bag. I hope they cap his ass on site.
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If they were truly narcissistic then they themselves would believe they are the only one worthy of putting a bullet in their own head
Then they wouldn't be able to enjoy the aftermath of the mess they've created. He is already playing out the various interviews with news media in his head. A guy who writes a long manifesto as he did, wants to talk and be seen so that he is able to promote his "message"
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Here is a timeline of several events surrounding Dorner’s case:
October 11, 2011: Dorner's lawsuit against the LAPD is filed regarding his dismissal.
Jan. 21, 2013: A Chris Dorner Facebook page is created that included several pictures of the former officer in LAPD uniform, and in military wear. Eventually it would include what is now known as his manifesto in which he explains who his targets are and why he feels wronged. (January 22 is when the photos were loaded). It's since been taken down.
Late January/early February: Media including TV show host Anderson Cooper report receiving odd packages from Dorner.
Feb. 2: Dorner's last day as a Navy reservist.
Feb. 3: In the morning, Dorner may have been at his ex-wife's Long Beach residence, her next door neighbor tells Patch.
Feb. 4: Monica Quan, a basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton and former star athlete at Walnut High School and Long Beach State, and her fiancée Keith Lawrence, were found shot dead in his vehicle. The couple had been sitting in the parking structure near their high-security Irvine apartment.
Feb. 6: Dorner is named as the suspect in the death of Quan and Lawrence. Details of Dorner’s vendetta begin to emerge, including Dorner's manifesto that Irvine police say he posted Monday implicating himself.
Feb. 6: San Diego County officials say they suspect Dorner tried to steal a boat from an 81-year-old man at Point Loma late that night. Reports were that he was unable to start the boat. About 2 a.m. Thursday, a witness in the area reported finding a badge and briefcase that appeared to belong to Dorner, according to media reports.
Feb. 7: A thread is started on GetBig.com
Feb. 7: A gray Nissan Titan pickup truck was spotted around 1:20 a.m. Thursday in the Corona area by a resident who alerted a pair of LAPD officers en route to protect someone named in the manifesto. The officers were trying to catch up to the vehicle near Interstate 15 and Magnolia Avenue when Dorner allegedly opened fire on them, grazing one officer in the head.
Feb. 7: Shortly after the first shooting, Dorner reportedly ambushed two Riverside Police officers while they were stopped at a red light in the area of Magnolia and Arlington avenues. An 11-year veteran of the force was killed. The second officer was seriously injured.
Feb. 7: At 5:30 a.m. Officers from the Los Angeles and Torrance police departments each shoot at two pickup trucks they each mistakenly believe is Dorner's, after hearing over their radios that he may be coming their way. Two women are injured in the first shooting.
Feb. 7: About 8:30 a.m., Dorner’s burned out truck was found in the area of Forest Road 2N10 and Club View in Big Bear Lake. About 2:30 p.m., deputies were able to confirm the vehicle belonged to Christopher Dorner.
Feb. 7: A Christopher Dorner Facebook fan page is created, calling the triple-murder suspect a "hero."
Feb. 8: San Bernardino County Sheriff’s officials conducted on all night search of several hundred empty mountain cabins in Big Bear Lake. By Friday morning it was not clear if Dorner was in the area. The incident prompted the closing of the local school district.
Feb. 8: Officials in other states are on high-alert, including in Pensacola, Florida, and Enid, Oklahoma, places where the accused triple-murderer Dorner's manifesto said he's lived, as well as Las Vegas, where he was briefly married and where Dorner owns two homes, the Orange County Register reported.
Feb. 8: In LaPalma, investigators bearing a search warrant combed through the home of Dorner's mother.
http://longbeach-ca.patch.com/articles/timeline-how-the-events-surrounding-christopher-dorner-unfolded-95f1c5ea
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-had-history-of-complaints-against-fellow-lapd-officers.html
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"After the incident outside the DoubleTree in 2008, Dorner's accusation against his training officer was proved false. In a series of hearings, hotel bellhops and officers testified that the man taken into custody had not been kicked. Dorner was terminated for falsifying that police report."
Similar thing happened here around 2005. A probationary officer made a false claim about his FTO during a call. The FTO was in a fight with a drunk 50 yr old 250 lbs male. The FTO told the officer to taser the suspect. The probationary officer froze. The FTO ended up taking the guy into custody alone and the suspect had a complaint of pain from the punch to the ribs. FTO took him to the hospital to get checked out, he was fine. The probationary officer made the claim the officer used excessive force since the subject was an old man with a heart condition. We didn't know the officer had psychic abilities and was able to determine the gentleman had a heart condition by simply being in the same room.
The officer eventually got terminated because he was a proven liar in several instances. For example, he wrote a report that he found drugs in the suspects right front pocket. The report appeared to have been lost so the officer had to re-write it. In the re-write he wrote he found the drugs in the back left pocket. Low and behold the original report was found and clearly showed he made up one of them. (He was a minister by the way). Another time a female officer was up against a man with a knife and he again froze. She had to take the subject on alone. He spent his time fumbling in his trunk for a less lethal shotgun while she already had a Taser out and just needed to be covered by someone with deadly force so she could deploy it.
So he gets fired for just being a psychopathic liar and coward and he goes on a news binge claiming he was fired for being Christian. News ate it up. Poor guy, fired by the bad old department because he was christian. (90% of the dept is Christian) He sues and it eventually goes to Federal Court. 5 days of testimony where he lied through his teeth so adamantly that I began to believe he really thought he was telling the truth, and the jury found the termination just. To this day he continues to claim he was fired for being Christian and not because of the stacks of documents, videos and witnesses that showed he was a lying coward. The staff psychologist at one point said she was concerned he may go postal because he believed so strongly he was being wronged... Had this false sense of superiority and all that.... Guess we were lucky
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Has anybody tried putting out a pic-a-nic basket for this Yogi Bear looking pile of shit?
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Dude is bloofy
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Feb. 7: A thread is started on GetBig.com
;D
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Has anybody tried putting out a pic-a-nic basket for this Yogi Bear looking pile of shit?
We're organizing plane drops of KFC, watermelon and grape drank to lure him out as we speak!
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Breitbart's Big Government ^ | February 9, 2013 | Larry O'Connor
Posted on February 9, 2013, 1:05:21 PM EST by 2ndDivisionVet
Yesterday on his Facebook page, professional victimologist and societal agitator Rev. Jesse Jackson posted an open letter to Christopher Dorner, the fugitive murderer whose manifesto reads like a battle cry from Jackson's own website.
*Dear Christopher Dorner,
I understand your feelings of hurt and pain. I make this plea to you to stop spreading the pain, the hurt, and the fear. Please stop. Don’t take any more lives.
Christopher, your mother is distraught and deeply concerned for your safety. There are many good and credible people in Los Angeles who will help you. Danny J. Bakewell Sr. (The Los Angeles Sentinel’s Executive Publisher/CEO), Bishop Noel Jones, Bishop Kenneth Ulmer and Rev. Charles Singleton are all individuals I know personally. I promise that they will gladly receive you...
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
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This guy is the biggest whining fucking pussy on the planet right now. I can believe, that only on Getbig, he's being compared to Rambo...
He loses his job like 5 years ago and still holds a grudge, claiming the race card the whole way home. You guys dont normally stand for this! And for it, he kills some fine young chick in the process. Dude, is a complete shit bag. I hope they cap his ass on site.
well wether he s right or not about his complaints, he s still lonely and weak, getting hunted down by a lot of strong people. He killed weak people. In the end he loses and will only be remembered as a fat, dumb, black loser.
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Breitbart's Big Government ^ | February 9, 2013 | Larry O'Connor
Posted on February 9, 2013, 1:05:21 PM EST by 2ndDivisionVet
Yesterday on his Facebook page, professional victimologist and societal agitator Rev. Jesse Jackson posted an open letter to Christopher Dorner, the fugitive murderer whose manifesto reads like a battle cry from Jackson's own website.
*Dear Christopher Dorner,
I understand your feelings of hurt and pain. I make this plea to you to stop spreading the pain, the hurt, and the fear. Please stop. Don’t take any more lives.
Christopher, your mother is distraught and deeply concerned for your safety. There are many good and credible people in Los Angeles who will help you. Danny J. Bakewell Sr. (The Los Angeles Sentinel’s Executive Publisher/CEO), Bishop Noel Jones, Bishop Kenneth Ulmer and Rev. Charles Singleton are all individuals I know personally. I promise that they will gladly receive you...
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Good grief! Why does this anti-Semitic blow hard buffoon have to interject himself into this. Of course he shows no concern for the victims.
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I wonder if Dorner had ever met the daughter before.
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Charlie Sheen is getting in on the act, making a video suggesting Dorner call him ,something about wanting to add a few names to his hit-list. But seriously, has Charlie got the DT's in this video.
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Charlie Sheen is getting in on the act, making a video suggesting Dorner call him ,something about wanting to add a few names to his hit-list. But seriously, has Charlie got the DT's in this video.
LOL, what the fuck does an Aborigine scumbag like you know about Charlie Sheen and Christopher Dorner? You're from Melbourne, the backwoods of the world, for heaven's sake. All you know about is kangaroos and koala bears back in the desert you come from. And don't you give me any lip about Crocodile Dundee, boy. :P
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;D
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extremely angry people dont go out and kill 3 people in a week and arm themselves with enough weaponry to protect a small country.
but yes I will back track and say he's not a psycho....he's just not mentally right at the moment.
than what would you call it? just bat shit crazy perhaps? filled with murderous rage maybe..
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extremely angry people dont go out and kill 3 people in a week and arm themselves with enough weaponry to protect a small country.
but yes I will back track and say he's not a psycho....he's just not mentally right at the moment.
backtracking?... you let me down, 'balls.
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;D
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He's just a cry baby who couldn't make it through patrol. Hopefully, he'll swallow the barrel.
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;D
Racist post reported.
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He's just a cry baby who couldn't make it through patrol. Hopefully, he'll swallow the barrel.
All cops are cry babies, always bitching and moaning about how dangerous their job is, they aren't even in the TOP 10 of most dangerous jobs, They all seem scared of their own shadow, "oh that 98 year old paralysed wheelchair bound grandma waved a plastic spoon in my direction and I felt intense fear for my own safety even though I walk around with an arsenal of offensive weapons, so I tasered her arse 15 times until she stopped breathing. I think she had a heart condition, it wasn't the taser that killed her. But anyway, I neutralised the threat, it sure was scary though!" fact is, the Police force attracts pussies who were bullied and are now looking for revenge.
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Not all cops.
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As the plot thickens....
"The Rock 2013 - Betrayed by it's own Government."
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Racist post reported.
racism demonstrated
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I have a vacation home in Lake Arrowhead, CA. I was told yesterday that I am to go there as soon as possible to check for any indication of a possible break-in, take an inventory of all contents, and report anything suspicious. Apparently this is being asked of all homeowners who do not live there year-round.
The homes are within walking distance of Big Bear.
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I have a vacation home in Lake Arrowhead, CA. I was told yesterday that I am to go there as soon as possible to check for any indication of a possible break-in, take an inventory of all contents, and report anything suspicious. Apparently this is being asked of all homeowners who do not live there year-round.
The homes are within walking distance of Big Bear.
We just closed on the sale of our cabin in moonridge 1 day before this shit broke. I wonder how the new owners are taking this, it would be their 1st weekend there. I have my doubts the guy is there though, if he was it was most likely just long enough to dump his truck and hightail it somewhere else
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How many cops do you know e-cock?
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CBS2 Exclusive: LAPD Chief Announces He’s Reopening Case That Resulted In Dorner’s Termination
CBSLA.com ^ | February 9, 2013 6:19 PM
Posted on February 9, 2013 11:22:03 PM EST by BenLurkin
LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — LAPD Chief Charlie Beck has just announced he’s reopening the case that resulted in accused cop killer and former officer Christopher Dorner’s termination.
“I’m not doing this to appease him. I’m doing this so the community has faith in what the police department does,” Beck said in an exclusive interview Saturday with CBS2’s Pat Harvey.
In a 20-page manifesto posted on Facebook, Dorner allegedly vows revenge against several former LAPD co-workers whom he claims ended his career.
“This investigation has already been reviewed at multiple levels…If I have to redo something or deal with an issue I will deal with it publicly,” said Beck, adding that interviews about the case cannot legally be made public for the interviewers’ safety.
The police chief said Dorner has not reached out to him in any way.
He stressed that if Dorner were to contact the police department and surrender he would guarantee his safety.
CBS News reported Saturday that investigators found weapons and cold weather survival gear inside the burned-out truck belonging to Dorner after it was located in Big Bear. Several law enforcement agencies have been scouring the area for the triple murder suspect.
“I’m not going to comment on what was recovered. I’m not going to comment on where we think he is or what we think he’s doing,” said Beck, who added that would be revealed in time.
Harvey mentioned that thousands of people are publicly supporting the triple murder suspect on a Facebook page.
“I’m surprised about it. I’ve been doing this for 36 years and not a lot surprises me,” Beck said.
The manifesto includes dozens of targets and warned that their families will be harmed.
“I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordinance and survival training I’ve been given,” Dorner writes. “You have misjudged a sleeping giant.”
The manifesto goes on to say, “I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours.”
Beck said the situation is putting tremendous stress on those officers and their families.
“We have protection details for 50 families. Imagine having to go through your daily existence like that, knowing your family was the target of a trained assassin like Dorner…It is absolutely unthinkable,” the police chief said.
Beck said he is putting all the department’s resources into finding Dorner.
“This is not just about cops, this is about all of us. There is a small, small portion of the population that puts themselves at risk for the benefit of society, and when they’re attacked, it puts the rest of the population under attack.
“I will do everything it takes to capture Dorner and to keep our police officers and the city safe, everything it takes.”
At the end of the interview, Harvey asked Beck why he chose to grant her the interview exclusively. The police chief explained that he had a good relationship with the CBS2 anchor and thought she was a fair journalist. He said he also wanted to reach out to the African-American community, who Dorner claims is unfairly targeted by LAPD officers.
It may also have to do with Dorner praising Harvey in his manifesto: “Pat Harvey, I’ve always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.”
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CBS2 Exclusive: LAPD Chief Announces He’s Reopening Case That Resulted In Dorner’s Termination
CBSLA.com ^ | February 9, 2013 6:19 PM
Posted on February 9, 2013 11:22:03 PM EST by BenLurkin
Harvey mentioned that thousands of people are publicly supporting the triple murder suspect on a Facebook page.
“I’m surprised about it. I’ve been doing this for 36 years and not a lot surprises me,” Beck said.
This Chief is so out of touch with reality. Why the fuck is it surprising that many support Dorner? Does he not realize the extent of corruption in all police departments? I have friends that are cops. I hear the stories of how they fuck up people, get drunk on duty, double dip, and yes on a few occasions plant evidence. Then they all just laugh. This is the same all over the country. Too many people have been bullied and faced trumped up charges based on an officers bullshit report. People are sick of their shit. I said something once about cops stealing money from tax payers and I was instantly ignored at this party that had a bunch of cops. Man...fuck them cops. It has always been a Us vs Them attitude with these pricks. I feel sorry for the innocent families but I don't give a shit about these cops. These cops are no better than the nigs that have the no snitching code. The guy was pushed too far, his career was ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable.
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This Chief is so out of touch with reality. Why the fuck is it surprising that many support Dorner? Does he not realize the extent of corruption in all police departments? I have friends that are cops. I hear the stories of how they fuck up people, get drunk on duty, double dip, and yes on a few occasions plant evidence. Then they all just laugh. This is the same all over the country. Too many people have been bullied and faced trumped up charges based on an officers bullshit report. People are sick of their shit. I said something once about cops stealing money from tax payers and I was instantly ignored at this party that had a bunch of cops. Man...fuck them cops. It has always been a Us vs Them attitude with these pricks. I feel sorry for the innocent families but I don't give a shit about these cops. These cops are no better than the nigs that have the no snitching code. The guy was pushed too far, his career was ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable.
cops should have to testify under polygraph when it comes to things that put ppl in jail.
if you find a brick of coke on a person after pulling them over, you should be able to pass a polygraph about it. We're talking about a person losing a decade of their life, and it can just be due to a cop wanting to frame them.
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Here is a true story.
I got a buddy who owns a bar. It was a regular cop hangout and it just so happened that dispatch was trying to get officers to respond to a call. Not sure what it was but my buddy told me that dispatch called his personal cell phone to get these guys out of the bar. Unreal.
Oh Yeah, same bar. There were a bunch of cops, off duty I suppose, totally drunk and started some shit with a couple of bikers. The bikers didn't know that they were cops so when a few punches were thrown all hell broke loose and all of a sudden 10 cop cars show up in what seemed to be 1 minute and started tazing these 2 dudes, kicked them while they were in handcuffs, took them away to jail. I always regretted not saying anything but I don't think it would have helped anyway. This whole Police brotherhood is bullshit. There is nothing that they can do for me that I cannot do myself. I have zero use for these pricks.
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LAPD Chief Charlie Beck has just announced he’s reopening the case that resulted in accused cop killer and former officer Christopher Dorner’s termination.
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cops should have to testify under polygraph when it comes to things that put ppl in jail.
if you find a brick of coke on a person after pulling them over, you should be able to pass a polygraph about it. We're talking about a person losing a decade of their life, and it can just be due to a cop wanting to frame them.
I agree. The planting evidence incident went down like this...
My buddy's dad is a cop. Him and his partner were patrolling a University and saw this long haired guy that "looked suspicious". Well when they confronted the guy he started going on about probable cause and this and that and refused to be searched etc..
So my buddy's dad always had a briefcase full of drugs that he confiscated from the streets to use in such ocassions. He planted coke on the guy and took him in. Turned out the guy was a professor at the college. The case was dropped of course because they didn't want any media attention.
I don't give a shit what anyone says. These incidents are more common than anyone realizes. Most Cops have way too much power and not enough brains.
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Lots of lazy cops where I come from. Lots of them cruise the areas with babes on the street perving instead of responding to real crisis. Some of them spend time at women's houses, getting laid on the tax payer dollar.
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Lots of lazy cops where I come from. Lots of them cruise the areas with babes on the street perving instead of responding to real crisis. Some of them spend time at women's houses, getting laid on the tax payer dollar.
Why am I not surprised?
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Lots of lazy cops where I come from. Lots of them cruise the areas with babes on the street perving instead of responding to real crisis. Some of them spend time at women's houses, getting laid on the tax payer dollar.
Hispanic cops....out cruising 13 year old girls here all the time.
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How many cops do you know e-cock?
Oh Brother, Another Pig Lover bitching and moaning!
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What area are you in?
Hispanic cops....out cruising 13 year old girls here all the time.
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CBS2 Exclusive: LAPD Chief Announces He’s Reopening Case That Resulted In Dorner’s Termination
CBSLA.com ^ | February 9, 2013 6:19 PM
Posted on February 9, 2013 11:22:03 PM EST by BenLurkin
“This is not just about cops, this is about all of us. There is a small, small portion of the population that puts themselves at risk for the benefit of society, and when they’re attacked, it puts the rest of the population under attack.
“I will do everything it takes to capture Dorner and to keep our police officers and the city safe, everything it takes.”
Police attitudes are sickening, they somehow think they are above everyone else and somehow taking more risk than others. Their job isn't even in the TOP 10 of dangerous jobs. If I was legally allowed to walk around with an arsenal of offensive weapons and the full weight of the LAW behind me and the support of other police, I wouldn't be scared of anything.
And then to make out that Police make the city safe, what a load of shit, police prove time and time again that they are a greater threat to the citizens than any criminal element they might encounter. From their corruption to their excessive criminalisation of ordinary citizens to their willingness to shoot first ask questions later and finally to their extraordinary incompetence, I hope Dorner blows away as many as these Pigs as possible, especially the Police Chief.
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It seems to me the police spend a lot more time harassing honest Average Joes for petty infringements, than dealing with real crooks.
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It seems to me the police spend a lot more time harassing honest Average Joes for petty infringements, than dealing with real crooks.
That's because the real crooks are too much/smart for them.
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What area are you in?
Perth, of course.
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Perth, of course.
Any hot chicks you know there? I want them. :P
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David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.
Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.
His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner — the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.
"I don't want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness," said Robert Sheahen, Perdue's attorney. "These people need training and they need restraint."
The incident involving Perdue was the second time police looking for the fugitive former LAPD officer opened fire on someone else. The shootings have raised concerns that the fear Dorner has instilled has added another layer of danger.
"Nobody trains police officers to look for one of their own," said Maria Haberfeld, a police training professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "I wouldn't want to be in their shoes and I don't think anybody else would."
Torrance police said the officers who slammed into Perdue were responding to shots fired moments earlier in a nearby area where LAPD officers were standing guard outside the home of someone targeted in an online manifesto that authorities have attributed to Dorner.
In the first incident, LAPD officers opened fire on another pickup they feared was being driven by Dorner. The mother and daughter inside the truck were delivering Los Angeles Times newspapers. The older woman was shot twice in the back and the other was wounded by broken glass.
In Perdue's case, his attorney said he wasn't struck by bullets or glass but was injured in the car wreck, suffering a concussion and an injury to his shoulder. The LAX baggage handler hasn't been able to work since, and his car is totaled, Sheahen said.
"When Torrance issues this ridiculous statement saying he wasn't injured, all they mean is he wasn't killed," his attorney said, referring to a press release reporting "no visible injuries" to Perdue.
A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.
"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."
According to the police department, Perdue's car was headed directly for one of their patrol vehicles and appeared not to be yielding. When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds.
The Torrance police chief apologized to Perdue and offered him a rental car and payment for his medical expenses, the statement said.
Similarly, an LAPD spokesman said Saturday that Chief Charlie Beck will provide a new truck to the two women injured by officers in pursuit of Dorner.
Cmdr. Andrew Smith said he and Beck met separately with the two women Saturday. The truck will be purchased using money from donors, Smith said.
The action does not necessarily preclude a lawsuit from the women or a settlement. The women's attorney, Glen T. Jonas, said, "The family appreciates that Chief Beck apologized on behalf of the LAPD."
The search for Dorner has spanned the region, with authorities hoping they had tracked Dorner down in Big Bear only for the trail to go cold there. His alleged campaign to take revenge on those he blamed for his dismissal from the LAPD has stoked fears among local police, many of whom are involved in the search. The sense of chaos has been amplified by police around the state and beyond being forced to chase down bogus leads and erroneous sightings.
Connie Rice, a civil rights attorney, said it's not surprising when police make mistakes during manhunts.
"They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted."
Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.
"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.
robert.faturechi@latimes.com
matt.stevens@latimes.com
Times staff writer Richard Winton contributed to this report.
WTF!!!!
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Let me show you an example of the sub human filth that stalks the streets in police uniforms.
Rochester, NY Police officer Chris Burgstrom Executed Codi from Behind, Shooting the Scared Dog as it was Running Away
Tuesday morning, exactly a week to the day that Codi, a scared, injured, lost dog was executed by Rochester, NY Police officer Chris Burgstrom, while his owner Steven Jodoin Benus searched everywhere for him, Codi’s remains were finally released to Steven.
But not before Rochester, NY Police Chief James Sheppard did everything he could in order to avoid releasing Codi’s remains.
http://www.copblock.org/26433/rochester-ny-police-officer-chris-burgstrom-executed-codi-from-behind-shooting-the-scared-dog-as-it-was-running-away/
Pig Scum
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Bitches w Badges.
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Let me show you an example of the sub human filth that stalks the streets in police uniforms.
Rochester, NY Police officer Chris Burgstrom Executed Codi from Behind, Shooting the Scared Dog as it was Running Away
Tuesday morning, exactly a week to the day that Codi, a scared, injured, lost dog was executed by Rochester, NY Police officer Chris Burgstrom, while his owner Steven Jodoin Benus searched everywhere for him, Codi’s remains were finally released to Steven.
But not before Rochester, NY Police Chief James Sheppard did everything he could in order to avoid releasing Codi’s remains.
http://www.copblock.org/26433/rochester-ny-police-officer-chris-burgstrom-executed-codi-from-behind-shooting-the-scared-dog-as-it-was-running-away/
Pig Scum
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Man..this is tough to see. I can only hope some hero will rise up and kill this fucking guy.
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He hit the dog with his car, the dog was badly injured, best thing to do is put the dog down and out of his misery!
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That's because the real crooks are too much/smart for them.
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No, real crooks, think that they are smart. But, if they were, they'd choose another line of work, and wouldn't constantly get caught.
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I grew up w a lot of people who became cops. My lack of respect and disgust only grows even now seeing what goes on.
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Man..this is tough to see. I can only hope some hero will rise up and kill this fucking guy.
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He hit the dog with his car, the dog was badly injured, best thing to do is put the dog down and out of his misery!
Source? Everything I read says otherwise.
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Cops love killing "mans best friend" - it is the next best thing for them from killing people.
Sadly, the shooting of Codi as shocking as it may seem, is not an isolated incident. The incidents Vara speaks of are only the tip of the iceberg. Since the beginning of 2013 over 18 accounts of cops shooting dogs have come across my desk. All took place in different States across America. Most are unjustified outright executions of beloved family pets, which leads us to ask the question “Have American Police Officers declared war on the family pet?”
https://everythingworthknowingilearnedfrommydog.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/have-american-police-officers-declared-war-on-the-family-pet-warning-this-post-contains-a-graphic-video-clip-which-may-disturb-some-readers/
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Source? Everything I read says otherwise.
im guessing hes only justifying this because he hates dogs
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If u kill a cop K-9
They will charge u as if u killed a real pig, probably get life in jail
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Cops love killing "mans best friend" - it is the next best thing for them from killing people.
https://everythingworthknowingilearnedfrommydog.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/have-american-police-officers-declared-war-on-the-family-pet-warning-this-post-contains-a-graphic-video-clip-which-may-disturb-some-readers/
not necessarily. You have drug dealers who have pits (whether vocal cords are cut or not) and they may attack the cops---cops shoot. Take things on a case by case basis.
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not necessarily. You have drug dealers who have pits (whether vocal cords are cut or not) and they may attack the cops---cops shoot. Take things on a case by case basis.
...and drug dealers wear hoodies and they get shot too. ;)
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If u kill a cop K-9
They will charge u as if u killed a real pig, probably get life in jail
Where do you come up with this shit?
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Oh Brother, Another Pig Lover bitching and moaning!
As expected :)
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Where do you come up with this shit?
Depending on the state, many police dogs, are considered "officers".
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Depending on the state, many police dogs, are considered "officers".
Yes. I once saw on the news footage of a police K9 receiving a full police-style funeral after being killed on duty.
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Yes. I once saw on the news footage of a police K9 receiving a full police-style funeral after being killed on duty.
In what state is killing a police dog punishable by life in prison?
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Yes. I once saw on the news footage of a police K9 receiving a full police-style funeral after being killed on duty.
Yes I've seen that too
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Depending on the state, many police dogs, are considered "officers".
How silly.
A dog is just a tool, like a car or a gun.
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How silly.
A dog is just a tool, like a car or a gun.
No cops take their dogs very serious and they will be buried with full honors if they die. But the punishment for killing them is not the same as for killing a person
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In what state is killing a police dog punishable by life in prison?
I don't know what the punishment was. I only caught the funeral, which was said to be conducted exactly like a ceremony for a fallen officer.
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christopher dorner is an american hero, putting the oppressors where they belong, if everyone in america stood up like him, it would be a better place for all of us
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How silly.
A dog is just a tool, like a car or a gun.
I agree but those dogs arent your average football humping muts tons of man hours and training go into these things, they are like special forces for dogs ..
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christopher dorner is an american hero, putting the oppressors where they belong, if everyone in america stood up like him, it would be a better place for all of us
Who did the 27 year old basketball coach oppress?
I realize it's quite trendy to talk shit on 'the man' but whatever legitimate point this guy had, he lost when he killed an innocent person
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Who did the 27 year old basketball coach oppress?
I realize it's quite trendy to talk shit on 'the man' but whatever legitimate point this guy had, he lost when he killed an innocent person
they were just a casualty of war.
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Day 4 and not a peep in LAPD vs. Black man Prime.
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they were just a casualty of war.
So 9/11 and all other terrorism is legit warfare?
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Day 4 and not a peep in LAPD vs. Black man Prime.
Wiggs.....stay in the house until this is over.
For your own sake.
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christopher dorner is an american hero, putting the oppressors where they belong, if everyone in america stood up like him, it would be a better place for all of us
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So 9/11 and all other terrorism is legit warfare?
well US drones killing innocent civilians in Pakistan seems to be.
that former sergeant reaped what he sowed ..
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well US drones killing innocent civilians in Pakistan seems to be.
that former sergeant reaped what he sowed ..
ok fair enough, as long as everthing is consistant
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ok fair enough, as long as everthing is consistant
haha! good answer ;D
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Wiggs.....stay in the house until this is over.
For your own sake.
Haha yes, Wiggs can't even fight his way out of a paper bag! :D
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hope he gets to kill a few more of these cowardly pigs before they take him out. I have nothing good to say about cops. most people dont. If they were that important lets see how much a community would actively pay out of pocket for their services.....like say we pay the dentist or the grocer.
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$1million dollar reward. I can't help but think what is the dude eating and hwo much size he's lost. I'd die of starvation after two days. He really should've planned better. Set up some explosives at the precint, booty trap cop cars...i wonder if he's hiding out in one of those cops homes. That'd be hilarious.
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$1million dollar reward. I can't help but think what is the dude eating and hwo much size he's lost. I'd die of starvation after two days. He really should've planned better. Set up some explosives at the precint, booty trap cop cars...i wonder if he's hiding out in one of those cops homes. That'd be hilarious.
That's were you wrong bud. It's the opposite. This fella had all this the whole thing planned, remember he apparently lost his job about 5yrs ago. Plus wrote a very well executed letter about the piglets in LAPD. Hint, he's still laying low watching the Cops watching him. This fella knows the art of war. It wouldn't surprised me if he's even watching himself on TV on America's Most Wanted.
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He's a ninja. Guarding an oil platform in iraq taught him many skills. Beating his wife taught him hand to hand combat.
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This guy is probably gonna lay low for a few days and then light up the LAPD like a birthday cake and go into hiding again.
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He's a ninja. Guarding an oil platform in iraq taught him many skills. Beating his wife taught him hand to hand combat.
just about spit my drink out haha!
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/376732/Man-hunt-for-ex-soldier-who-shot-police-chief-s-daughter-and-killed-policeman
How convient!!!!!
The drones are ready!
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/376732/Man-hunt-for-ex-soldier-who-shot-police-chief-s-daughter-and-killed-policeman
How convient!!!!!
The drones are ready!
I actually thought about that spin:
"due to the extreme risk this person presents we agreed to place drones over certain high value potential targets" thus the precedent will have been set
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Why would there be a $1,000,000 "Dead or Alive" reward, if the LAPD truly believed in innocent until proven guilty?
This stinks to high heaven.
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Anybody else see the convenience in the timing of this? CIA/White House under scrutiny about their drone strike secrecy, bill being pushed to allow drone strikes against Americans? This is way to convenient to make the public think that the only way to catch this killer is to use drones.
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Feb 7 - a man identifying himself as Dorner calls Quann and taunts him, saying "you should have done a better job protecting your daughter"
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This Chief is so out of touch with reality. Why the fuck is it surprising that many support Dorner? Does he not realize the extent of corruption in all police departments? I have friends that are cops. I hear the stories of how they fuck up people, get drunk on duty, double dip, and yes on a few occasions plant evidence. Then they all just laugh. This is the same all over the country. Too many people have been bullied and faced trumped up charges based on an officers bullshit report. People are sick of their shit. I said something once about cops stealing money from tax payers and I was instantly ignored at this party that had a bunch of cops. Man...fuck them cops. It has always been a Us vs Them attitude with these pricks. I feel sorry for the innocent families but I don't give a shit about these cops. These cops are no better than the nigs that have the no snitching code. The guy was pushed too far, his career was ruined. Someone needs to be held accountable.
Sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry you seem to migrate towards corrupt cops for friends. I have a lot of friends that are cops and they don't plant evidence, drink on duty, double dip and laugh about it. Maybe it's not so much about corrupt cops but the fact you don't make very good choices... hope this helps
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Cops love killing "mans best friend" - it is the next best thing for them from killing people.
https://everythingworthknowingilearnedfrommydog.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/have-american-police-officers-declared-war-on-the-family-pet-warning-this-post-contains-a-graphic-video-clip-which-may-disturb-some-readers/
Not true. Hope this helps
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I have a lot of friends that are cops and they don't plant evidence, drink on duty, double dip and laugh about it.
So you are saying that they don't laugh about it?
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So you are saying that they don't laugh about it?
I'm saying OP has a pattern of picking the wrong friends, or they're "exaggerating".
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Sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry you seem to migrate towards corrupt cops for friends. I have a lot of friends that are cops and they don't plant evidence, drink on duty, double dip and laugh about it. Maybe it's not so much about corrupt cops but the fact you don't make very good choices... hope this helps
Nobody is saying they are all corrupt, but the pussies like your friends who standby and watch on and do nothing are complicit in the corruption, if they grew some balls and did what was RIGHT instead of being passive observers, Corruption in Power Groups wouldn't exist. I don't know what's worse, corrupt cops or the pussies that work alongside them and say and do nothing. Your cop friends are pussies, Hope this Helps!
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Nobody is saying they are all corrupt, but the pussies like your friends who standby and watch on and do nothing are complicit in the corruption, if they grew some balls and did what was RIGHT instead of being passive observers, Corruption in Power Groups wouldn't exist. I don't know what's worse, corrupt cops or the pussies that work alongside them and say and do nothing. Your cop friends are pussies, Hope this Helps!
You're too much of a pussy to be a Christian, punk. I suspect you'll be a godless degenerate/murderer/paedophile/homosexual your whole worthless life.
"A man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." - Proverbs 27:17
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Nobody is saying they are all corrupt, but the pussies like your friends who standby and watch on and do nothing are complicit in the corruption, if they grew some balls and did what was RIGHT instead of being passive observers, Corruption in Power Groups wouldn't exist. I don't know what's worse, corrupt cops or the pussies that work alongside them and say and do nothing. Your cop friends are pussies, Hope this Helps!
Not sure how you got that they standby and watch out of what I wrote..
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You're too much of a pussy to be a Christian, punk. I suspect you'll be a godless degenerate/murderer/paedophile/homosexual your whole worthless life.
"A man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." - Proverbs 27:17
What are you talking about, The CHURCH is the exact same thing, Paedophiles run the show, everyone knows about it, and the powers that be are corrupt and minimise, deny and thus enable it. I dont know what's worse, those who are corrupt and enable such behaviour, or those who support them and pretend it doesn't exist. Either way, if you're a Christian and you aren't regularly speaking out vehemently and aggressively rallying against such abuses or you aren't threatening to leave or just leave the faith, you are also complicit in such abuses. It is not enough to go, oh it's just a few bad apples, nothing to do with me while innocent children get arse raped by the people you look up to and are affiliated with.
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After Vatican II, the church was flooded with homosexuals. Pope JP II warned that they should not be allowed into the priesthood but was criticized by the liberal media for that opinion.
What are you talking about, The CHURCH is the exact same thing, Paedophiles run the show, everyone knows about it, and the powers that be are corrupt and minimise, deny and thus enable it. I dont know what's worse, those who are corrupt and enable such behaviour, or those who support them and pretend it doesn't exist. Either way, if you're a Christian and you aren't regularly speaking out vehemently and aggressively rallying against against such abuses or you aren't threatening to leave or just leave the faith, you are also complicit in such abuses. It is not enough to go, oh it's just a few bad apples, nothing to do with me while innocent children get arse raped by the people you look up to and are affiliated with.
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Not sure how you got that they standby and watch out of what I wrote..
Please explain what efforts your friends have made to battle the overt corruption that plagues Western Police Forces everywhere. Stop pretending they do anything, the people that do are outed as whistle-blowers and their lives and careers are destroyed. That's why so few come forward and do anything, but it is a nobler deed to do that than to be part of a group that is held to a higher stand than others and yet in reality are just as criminal as the people they condemn. The Police force is just like the Church, run by sociopaths, corrupted by power and greed and supported by large groups of people who should know better.
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Sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry you seem to migrate towards corrupt cops for friends. I have a lot of friends that are cops and they don't plant evidence, drink on duty, double dip and laugh about it. Maybe it's not so much about corrupt cops but the fact you don't make very good choices... hope this helps
No, these cops are not my friends. I do have friends that are cops and when there is a party or some gathering being hosted by a cop then usually that is all that is there. All I hear is cop talk, cop stories, cop drama, etc... because that is all they know. When the alcohol starts flowing they start getting loose lips. I know that not all police are corrupt. There are some awesome ones out there but even the good ones are not "angels". Anyone who does not speak up about corruption is just as guilty.
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No, these cops are not my friends. I do have friends that are cops and when there is a party or some gathering being hosted by a cop then usually that is all that is there. All I hear is cop talk, cop stories, cop drama, etc... because that is all they know. When the alcohol starts flowing they start getting loose lips. I know that not all police are corrupt. There are some awesome ones out there but even the good ones are not "angels". Anyone who does not speak up about corruption is just as guilty.
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Please explain what efforts your friends have made to battle the overt corruption that plagues Western Police Forces everywhere. Stop pretending they do anything, the people that do are outed as whistle-blowers and their lives and careers are destroyed. That's why so few come forward and do anything, but it is a nobler deed to do that than to be part of a group that is held to a higher stand than others and yet in reality are just as criminal as the people they condemn. The Police force is just like the Church, run by sociopaths, corrupted by power and greed and supported by large groups of people who should know better.
From the 2011 Office of the Police Monitor's report:
There were 344 Formal complaints filed in 2011 – 103 External Formal complaints and 241 Internal Formal complaints. This was a total increase of 9% (28 cases) from the number filed in 2010. Of these 28 cases, there were 14 more External Formal complaints (↑ 16%) and 14 more Internal Formal complaints (↑ 6%)
What you will notice is, there were over TWICE as many Internal Affairs complaints from cops reporting on cops than there were from citizens at my department. Hope this helps
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What are you talking about, The CHURCH is the exact same thing, Paedophiles run the show, everyone knows about it, and the powers that be are corrupt and minimise, deny and thus enable it. I dont know what's worse, those who are corrupt and enable such behaviour, or those who support them and pretend it doesn't exist. Either way, if you're a Christian and you aren't regularly speaking out vehemently and aggressively rallying against such abuses or you aren't threatening to leave or just leave the faith, you are also complicit in such abuses. It is not enough to go, oh it's just a few bad apples, nothing to do with me while innocent children get arse raped by the people you look up to and are affiliated with.
What Church are you talking about? There are lots of false churches. Since they are Satan-controlled of course they do great evil. The devil wants to hit God where it hurts and do the geatest damage so he perverts the churches. That shows you what sort of creature he is. But at the same time there are lots of great churches that are not run by paedophiles but by genuinely holy men so don't try to tell lies like your master Satan and paint churches in a bad light. Remember, Catholic churches aren't even Christian so don't you dare falsely label them as being so. I know your sinister aim is to unfairly tar Christianity.
http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/hail_mary_hail_satan.htm
Religion wants to fit us with glasses; but the Lord wants to open our eyes!
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No, these cops are not my friends. I do have friends that are cops and when there is a party or some gathering being hosted by a cop then usually that is all that is there. All I hear is cop talk, cop stories, cop drama, etc... because that is all they know. When the alcohol starts flowing they start getting loose lips. I know that not all police are corrupt. There are some awesome ones out there but even the good ones are not "angels". Anyone who does not speak up about corruption is just as guilty.
Refer to the numbers from the police monitors report I posted above..
And I think I've said before... There are bad cops. No doubt. Some departments tolerate it more than others. I attend parties with cops quite often and unlike the movies, you rarely hear war stories. I was at a function just this Saturday with over 200 cops and alcohol was available. Didn't hear one cop story. I personally rarely tell them and my friends have learned not to bother to ask. The only exception is an ocassional funny story that goes along with the current conversations topic.
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"Los Angeles has announced a $US1 million reward for information leading to the capture of a former police officer accused of 'domestic terrorism' in a murder spree that has claimed three lives."
Wow... amazing how people can turn that into a conspiracy theory
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Refer to the numbers from the police monitors report I posted above..
And I think I've said before... There are bad cops. No doubt. Some departments tolerate it more than others. I attend parties with cops quite often and unlike the movies, you rarely hear war stories. I was at a function just this Saturday with over 200 cops and alcohol was available. Didn't hear one cop story. I personally rarely tell them and my friends have learned not to bother to ask. The only exception is an ocassional funny story that goes along with the current conversations topic.
Not believable. Play baseball with lots of them, and the stories turn into one big yuckfest as each guy tries to outdo the next guy for laughs.
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"Los Angeles has announced a $US1 million reward for information leading to the capture of a former police officer accused of 'domestic terrorism' in a murder spree that has claimed three lives."
Wow... amazing how people can turn that into a conspiracy theory
So now all multiple murders are domestic terrorism?
Nice language used by the new gestapo. You wonder why most people despise cops and law enforcement now - on both sides of the isle?
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Not believable. Play baseball with lots of them, and the stories turn into one big yuckfest as each guy tries to outdo the next guy for laughs.
That's a shame. For the record, I'm guilty of applying the standards I work in, with and around to "cops" in general which is likely no better than others who say "Every cop I know is...."
I gather that different departments have differing degrees of professionalism and culture. I've been surprised at some behaviors I've seen of local and smaller departments. So for me to speak on the culture of the NYPD or LAPD or Podunk Ak is stepping outside of my area of expertise. I can speak in general about cops in many areas as for the most part, some things are similar no matter where you are. Where I am, veteran officers generally don't talk shop off duty. It's boring and we've all heard it before. The funny stories are usually an exception and only if they fit the current conversation. I don't hang around rookie's that much so maybe they do. It's been 20 yrs since I was a rookie so maybe I did.
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So now all multiple murders are domestic terrorism?
Nice language used by the new gestapo. You wonder why most people despise cops and law enforcement now - on both sides of the isle?
As I've said before, most people don't...
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That's a shame. For the record, I'm guilty of applying the standards I work in, with and around to "cops" in general which is likely no better than others who say "Every cop I know is...."
I gather that different departments have differing degrees of professionalism and culture. I've been surprised at some behaviors I've seen of local and smaller departments. So for me to speak on the culture of the NYPD or LAPD or Podunk Ak is stepping outside of my area of expertise. I can speak in general about cops in many areas as for the most part, some things are similar no matter where you are. Where I am, veteran officers generally don't talk shop off duty. It's boring and we've all heard it before. The funny stories are usually an exception and only if they fit the current conversation. I don't hang around rookie's that much so maybe they do. It's been 20 yrs since I was a rookie so maybe I did.
For a lot of people, LEO's etc.,it's a coping mechanism. Understandable. The stories you don't want to hear are from the prison guards. :-X
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"Los Angeles has announced a $US1 million reward for information leading to the capture of a former police officer accused of 'domestic terrorism' in a murder spree that has claimed three lives."
Wow... amazing how people can turn that into a conspiracy theory
Well, Dorner burn his truck after police start to shoot random pick up trucks, no matter what colour, who is driving etc. He has probably save more lives than taken just by that act. Will he be taken to custody? I bet he will be shot beyond the recognizing. They blast that blue truck with 50+ bullets. They will blast Dorner with 500+ and god only knows how many big black bald guys they kill before they find right one. <- fixed that one myself, because they are colorblind, if they shot bright blue car instead of dull grey car.
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What Church are you talking about? There are lots of false churches. Since they are Satan-controlled of course they do great evil. The devil wants to hit God where it hurts and do the geatest damage so he perverts the churches. That shows you what sort of creature he is. But at the same time there are lots of great churches that are not run by paedophiles but by genuinely holy men so don't try to tell lies like your master Satan and paint churches in a bad light. Remember, Catholic churches aren't even Christian so don't you dare falsely label them as being so. I know your sinister aim is to unfairly tar Christianity.
http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/hail_mary_hail_satan.htm
Religion wants to fit us with glasses; but the Lord wants to open our eyes!
OH Brother, THE Devil molested all those children, why is it that religious people are the least able to take responsibility for their actions, is it because they believe all their perversions will be forgiven? Here's how it works, The devil had NOTHING to do with a group of perverted old men taking advantage of young boys and arse fucking them until their lives were destroyed. This happens because their has been an environment created that enables this behaviour and attracts paedophiles in droves. Churches are a breeding ground for paedophilia, their is an incredible tolerance of paedophilia by the religious faithful (as your post indicates) that likes to minimise or deny the reality of the situation. Either way, the Churches have promised for decades they will do something, only to openly support the paedophiles and aggressively pursue any victim who takes legal action. And rather than banish those that are caught, they send them to fresh pastures to find some more innocent lambs for the slaughter.
And it's not just the Catholics (who were the first Christians), it is the modern day Christians who are also guilty of such regular abuses. The modern day church is a massive paedophilia ring, and those involved are disgusting, as are those who make excuses for them.
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So now all multiple murders are domestic terrorism?
Nice language used by the new gestapo. You wonder why most people despise cops and law enforcement now - on both sides of the isle?
It's "aisle".....Counselor.
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It's "aisle".....Counselor.
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How do you know I was not referring to island of Hawaii? ;D ;D
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OH Brother, THE Devil molested all those children, why is it that religious people are the least able to take responsibility for their actions, is it because they believe all their perversions will be forgiven? Here's how it works, The devil had NOTHING to do with a group of perverted old men taking advantage of young boys and arse fucking them until their lives were destroyed. This happens because their has been an environment created that enables this behaviour and attracts paedophiles in droves. Churches are a breeding ground for paedophilia, their is an incredible tolerance of paedophilia by the religious faithful (as your post indicates) that likes to minimise or deny the reality of the situation. Either way, the Churches have promised for decades they will do something, only to openly support the paedophiles and aggressively pursue any victim who takes legal action. And rather than banish those that are caught, they send them to fresh pastures to find some more innocent lambs for the slaughter.
And it's not just the Catholics (who were the first Christians), it is the modern day Christians who are also guilty of such regular abuses. The modern day church is a massive paedophilia ring, and those involved are disgusting, as are those who make excuses for them.
The Catholics, as the link I gave you shows, are NOT Christians in any sense of the word. Christians follow the Bible and Catholics expressly fail in that regard. Those 'perverted old men' are following the Devil's ways; the Devil is the ringleader so to speak. Unless you repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, the devil (and not God) will be your father until both you and the Devil are cast into hellfire. The modern day church is no such thing (section in bold above) so don't bullshit everyone here with your bullcrap and idiotic generalizations. The majority of churches comprise upstanding members of society devoted to the Lord so honestly there's about as much paedophilia going on in the true Church as there is Goodrum in the Olympia. Maybe the Catholic Church is a breeding ground for paedophilia but don't malign the true churches of God with your shameful slander or I'll slap your face off myself.
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The Catholics, as the link I gave you shows, are NOT Christians in any sense of the word. Christians follow the Bible and Catholics expressly fail in that regard. Those 'perverted old men' are following the Devil's ways; the Devil is the ringleader so to speak. Unless you repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, the devil (and not God) will be your father until both you and the Devil are cast into hellfire. The modern day church is no such thing (section in bold above) so don't bullshit everyone here with your bullcrap and idiotic generalizations. The majority of churches comprise upstanding members of society devoted to the Lord so honestly there's about as much paedophilia going on in the true Church as there is Goodrum in the Olympia. Maybe the Catholic Church is a breeding ground for paedophilia but don't malign the true churches of God with your shameful slander or I'll slap your face off myself.
Spoken like a true kiddy fiddler!
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Spoken like a true kiddy fiddler!
What a piece of shit. You can't answer me so you slander me instead. I should knock your block off for that and snap your spine in two for being the REAL paedophile here. You don't want to obey God and repent because as a pig loves to wallow in mud so do you love involving yourself in dark sin.
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You can't answer me so you slander me instead. I should knock your block off for that and snap your spine in two for being the REAL paedophile here. You don't want to obey God and repent because as a pig loves to wallow in mud so do you love involving yourself in dark sin.
Slander, Jon, I rarely resort to personal insults of you, unlike yourself who litters their every post with insult after insult, you are the least Christ like person I have ever encountered. And yes, your denial and minimisation of religious paedophilia is typical of every Paedophile priest that has ever existed.
You remind me of the Cardinal George Pell who in Australia is head of the Church, he often downplays and denies the rampant paedophilia amongst his flock. He regularly involves himself in legal proceedings and attacks anybody who accuses Priests of paedophilia, of course he himself has been accused of molesting boys decades ago, but he was crafty and shrewd and got off the charges, so what did the Church do, they promoted him. He now runs the show and will be giving evidence in the latest Royal Commission they just formed to finally do something about the sickos in the Church. This could have only ever have happened because we have an atheist running the Country, prior to that, the Churches had such an influence with religious politicians who also like you denied and minimised the Churches wrongdoings and were complicit in the Churches well known sickness.
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The are offering $1 million reward.. I need to find this Wiggs impersonator right away.
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The are offering $1 million reward.. I need to find this Wiggs impersonator right away.
CC Sabathia better stay the shit out of LA
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Slander, Jon, I rarely resort to personal insults of you, unlike yourself who litters their every post with insult after insult, you are the least Christ like person I have ever encountered. And yes, your denial and minimisation of religious paedophilia is typical of every Paedophile priest that has ever existed.
You remind me of the Cardinal George Pell who in Australia is head of the Church, he often downplays and denies the rampant paedophilia amongst his flock. He regularly involves himself in legal proceedings and attacks anybody who accuses Priests of paedophilia, of course he himself has been accused of molesting boys decades ago, but he was crafty and shrewd and got off the charges, so what did the Church do, they promoted him. He now runs the show and will be giving evidence in the latest Royal Commission they just formed to finally do something about the sickos in the Church. This could have only ever have happened because we have an atheist running the Country, prior to that, the Churches had such an influence with religious politicians who also like you denied and minimised the Churches wrongdoings and were complicit in the Churches well known sickness.
I'm shocked to hear of the abuse supposedly taking place in Australia. To be honest I think you're just shitting out of your mouth here. And just because I deny these charges doesn't mean I'm guilty or whatever; the other reason for my denial is that the church is INNOCENT. It's as simple as that. All I'm doing is telling the TRUTH that by and large there's nothing untoward going on iin the Christian churches. Rather, the churches are where the holiest men, the PROTECTORS of children are. I'm such a guardian and hero while you are the paedophile but now you the paedophile are shamelessly accusing me the hero? That's the immorality of atheists I see in your loathsome behaviour. You got all those insults hurled your way because your very own revolting behaviour fully merited them.
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Send the IFBB A-Team to find Dorner(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/A-Team-Logo.svg/220px-A-Team-Logo.svg.png)(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/TTwn-_lco3I/AAAAAAAAJng/Z6O6rqmfejM/s1600/jay_cutler_mrOlympia_ifbb_bodybuilder_photoshoot_army_2011_4.jpg)(http://www.outdoorlife.com/files/imagecache/photo-single/photo/1001321579/Warren_Branch_square.jpg)(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/CAMO/cam-gunters.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q5962_WTASRBPHEZ.jpg)
haha nice
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jay has a very marketable look. Most girls are really into this look.
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Send the IFBB A-Team to find Dorner(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/A-Team-Logo.svg/220px-A-Team-Logo.svg.png)(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/TTwn-_lco3I/AAAAAAAAJng/Z6O6rqmfejM/s1600/jay_cutler_mrOlympia_ifbb_bodybuilder_photoshoot_army_2011_4.jpg)(http://www.outdoorlife.com/files/imagecache/photo-single/photo/1001321579/Warren_Branch_square.jpg)(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/CAMO/cam-gunters.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q5962_WTASRBPHEZ.jpg)
RONNIE could play Dorner in the new IFBB docudrama, FINDING DORNER..(http://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ronnie_coleman_police_officer_uniform.jpg)
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drones will soon be implemented in the US to help for investigations, they will turn into the norm..
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only gunther looks great
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drones will soon be implemented in the US to help for investigations, they will turn into the norm..
Agreed. I personally believe they are already around some of us in some places. Animal drones and insect drones. Some have been spotted in 2007. Shit that's 6 years ago. Imagine the shit they really have in operation now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2161647/Is-really-just-fly-Swarms-cyborg-insect-drones-future-military-surveillance.html#axzz2KcWLYqYe
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the president of drone attacks of america................. .....barry soetoro aka barack obama is a piece of shit, anyone who supports him and the government needs to be deported to north korea or china..............CHRIS TOPHER DORNER IS AN AMERICAN HERO
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Agreed. I personally believe they are already around some of us in some places. Animal drones and insect drones. Some have been spotted in 2007. Shit that's 6 years ago. Imagine the shit they really have in operation now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2161647/Is-really-just-fly-Swarms-cyborg-insect-drones-future-military-surveillance.html#axzz2KcWLYqYe
Unbelievable. Did you check out the humming bird replica done by DARPA? video somewhere out there.. Its almost undetectable, average person wouldnt tell the difference lots like a real fcking bird. the counter/surveillance gear civilians can get is unreal, let alone military grade.. DARPA's 1.8 gigapixel drone camera.. wow lol.
ive even heard of small EMP devices used by ex military russian gangsters here in canada for wiping out gps devices on shipments, marked cars, to counter surveillance rcmp and feds ect, light bulb cameras.. very cool stuff..
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they have been using the hummingbird drones on the citizens of pasadena, california for about 8 months to a one year now.
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they have been using the hummingbird drones on the citizens of pasadena, california for about 8 months to a one year now.
People will not believe this unless a government official comes out and says its true
fucking sheep
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well sadly its true, pasadena, california was a beta test region used for the governments hummingbird drone, why pasadena, mostly white, not alot of crime, and the citizens of the area are brainwashed sheep, never having any inclination that something as a hummingbird drone would ever be used on them............i hate to say it, the people of pasadena have been and had serious treasonous acts enacted against them. True Story my friends
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;D
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hahaha!
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;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459102.0;attach=504961;image)
I imagine some members of the LAPD will want to shoot this guy just for being black and a smartarse!
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LAPD will unload 80 bullets in his ass simply for WLB (WALKING WHILE BLACK )
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459102.0;attach=504961;image)
I imagine some members of the LAPD will want to shoot this guy just for being black and a smartarse!
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The riverside county DA (where the cop was killed) just had a press conference and said absolutely nothing, just had to get his face on tv.
A reporter even asked, "what's the purpose of this press conference." :-\
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Redondo Beach man, shot at by police in Chris Dorner manhunt, calls Torrance officers 'reckless'
The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin ^ | February 11, 2013 | Sandy Mazza
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 4:32:39 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
One of three victims in police attacks meant for fugitive Christopher Dorner is speaking out through his attorney, who calls Torrance police officers "violent and reckless" for shooting at and detaining him.
After all, David Perdue is a thin white man who looks nothing like Dorner. And he was questioned and released by officers just moments before another officer slammed a patrol car into his truck and fired shots at him.
Perdue left his Redondo Beach home and was driving through Torrance to the beach for some early morning surfing on Thursday when he was stopped. Officers guarding the home of a law enforcement official targeted by Dorner questioned him because his Honda Ridgeline pickup truck resembled the vehicle investigators believed Dorner was driving.
Seconds after he drove away, Perdue's truck was broadsided by a Torrance police car at the corner of Flagler Land and Beryl Street, said his attorney Robert Sheahen.
"These lunatics broadsided the side of his truck, spun him around and started shooting at him," Sheahen said...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...
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when an incident like this happens, it seems police have a free pass (more than they already do) to do whatever they please with impunity.
small element of martial law is in effect. dormer ftw
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;D
LOL
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when an incident like this happens, it seems police have a free pass (more than they already do) to do whatever they please with impunity.
small element of martial law is in effect. dormer ftw
Not always
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Seven
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by now even you guys should have deduced that dorner easily fled the US and is holding the pope's daughter for ransom
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:o
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;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459102.0;attach=504961;image)
Wiggs going for the Malcolm X meets unemployment look.
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He probably crawled under a rock and shot himself and will never be found
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He probably crawled under a rock and shot himself and will never be found
That is probably what he did knowing the LAPD will forever be haunted by this and always in fear.
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That is probably what he did knowing the LAPD will forever be haunted by this and always in fear.
Nah... Homie is in Mexico, but he will return at a later date and fuck more people up who he thinks have done him wrong.
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Nah... Homie is in Mexico, but he will return at a later date and fuck more people up who he thinks have done him wrong.
Doing what? How much $$$ could he possibly have on him to last this thing out?
I think the dude is planning one last blaze of glory in a very public setting and big way for max impact.
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Doing what? How much $$$ could he possibly have on him to last this thing out?
I think the dude is planning one last blaze of glory in a very public setting and big way for max impact.
Mexico doesn't take much cash.
Hell, he could probably get a gig with a cartel to have cash to come back and finish it up.
Dude seems pretty intelligent for an imbalanced fellow.
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Doing what? How much $$$ could he possibly have on him to last this thing out?
I think the dude is planning one last blaze of glory in a very public setting and big way for max impact.
It's sad but a murderer'll never meet a good end.
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It's sad but a murderer'll never meet a good end.
What about GOD?, he is a murderer. What fate will GOD face?
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Dude seems pretty intelligent for an imbalanced fellow.
^
Boom
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;D
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A fat black guy would stand out in Mexico. I'd he planned an out of country escape, I'd suspect the caribian, but I suspect he's still in so cal somewhere
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What about GOD?, he is a murderer. What fate will GOD face?
God is no murderer, you incorrigible blasphemer. He judges the murderers rather. God kills, not murders. The devil is a murderer on the other hand and has been from the beginning. Murder is the act of WRONGFULLY ending the life of another PERSON.
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A fat black guy would stand out in Mexico. I'd he planned an out of country escape, I'd suspect the caribian, but I suspect he's still in so cal somewhere
Once he's in Mexico...there's not much the US can do about it
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Once he's in Mexico...there's not much the US can do about it
Bullshit. US fugitives get deported every day from mexico
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he can work easily for a cartel
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I guarentee there are a million US Marshalls all over Mexico looking for this "hero" ::)
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Once he's in Mexico...there's not much the US can do about it
huh??
INTERPOL agents are always in Mexico searching for most wanted..
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I guarentee there are a million US Marshalls all over Mexico looking for this "hero" ::)
not if he already flew out of Mexico to Cuba
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he can work easily for a cartel
Cartels don't want or need him. Would bring waaaay to much heat. They'll just count their billions and let this guy roam the countryside like a black kung fu.
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not if he already flew out of Mexico to Cuba
Or he took a spaceship to "planet Mars."
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God is no murderer, you incorrigible blasphemer. He judges the murderers rather. God kills, not murders. The devil is a murderer on the other hand and has been from the beginning. Murder is the act of WRONGFULLY ending the life of another PERSON.
Don't LIE you hypocrite. God was an indiscriminate mass murderer. Killing people for the smallest of infraction such as children making fun of bald people. GOD was an utter psychopathic killer who makes Charles Manson look like an Angel. Stop pretending the GOD you worship wasn't a despicable genocidal killer of the worst kind who would kill for the most ridiculous of reasons.
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dont you think dorner has planned out carefully his logistical intelligence, he could take down every police force in the usa if he wanted, hes planned all this out very meticulously for years.
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oh please. I'll bet $100 that the fat fuck froze to death in Big Bear.
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if you have any brain at all and can critically think, the man is no where near big bear, anyone with a brain knows that was counter intelligence, his vehicle location would attract every able bodied police officer to go rummage the city of big bear, while he went the opposite direction. This is chess not checkers son.
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guess we'll find out won't we, csoft?
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CSWOL aka swoliosis son http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swoliosis
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CSOFT aka roided up SOFTbody in SOCal.
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i wish i was roided up, then i would have the firepower to get up to 305 lbs, instead of being stuck at 275-280 lbs, hey jadevon clown, when are you gona stop wearing bras for shoulder pads, and womens panties, for your boyfriend in his birthday suit, need to man up son.
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oh please. I'll bet $100 that the fat fuck froze to death in Big Bear.
so what you are saying is police officer / American Soldiers are Morons that would go to the snow and freeze to death
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so what you are saying is police officer / American Soldiers are Morons that would go to the snow and freeze to death
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guess we'll find out.
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if a few rag heads can destroy the pentagon and the towers
a trained military soldier / cop can play hide and seek for a while
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so what you are saying is police officer / American Soldiers are Morons that would go to the snow and freeze to death
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/norsemannord/Intredasting.jpg)
not morons. the axle on his truck broke, so he burned it and ditched it. he also left behind most of his supplies and guns.
You now have the FBI involved in a nationwide manhunt. do you really think if he ditched his truck and hopped into another one, they wouldn't have figured that shit out by now ? there is snow on the ground there, tires and feet leaves tracks in snow. these people aren't idiots.
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fatass dorner probably tried to hike down to mexico on the pacific crest trail. doubt he had the gear to do it or the maps---> he is now a 270 lb popsicle in some ravine.
the navy/police don't teach you how to survive in the elements. i was once hiking up a mountain that shall remain unnamed (over 14,000 ft)... there were a bunch of young army guys hiking to about 10,000 - fuckers didn't have the right gear, were not in that great shape. one of them sprained an ankle and had to be sledded out of there by the rangers, who gave the COs an earful. yep, dorner's not special forces/suckmymuscle. he's a reservist/fat cop. fucker's dead.
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like csoft will be when the end of days comes.
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Don't LIE you hypocrite. God was an indiscriminate mass murderer. Killing people for the smallest of infraction such as children making fun of bald people. GOD was an utter psychopathic killer who makes Charles Manson look like an Angel. Stop pretending the GOD you worship wasn't a despicable genocidal killer of the worst kind who would kill for the most ridiculous of reasons.
You're the one lying your fuckin' pasty ass off, YOU BLASPHEMOUS MONGREL! I already gave you the definition of 'murder' and God obviously doesn't fit it. YOU are the murderer here as you proved when you said you would gladly kill innocents. You should be shot posthaste, you fuckin' worthless hypocrite and your body drawn and quartered! Besides God is the Creator who gave life in the first place so He can jolly well take it whenever He wants? WHO THE FUCK IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT NOBODY LIKE YOU TO QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY GOD? I already explained to you that the people who got killed wholly deserved to be destroyed because of their unfathomable wickedness (their crimes are unprintable). They were wantonly corrupting and destroying God's earth. Anyway if God were truly what you say Him to be then why are you even here? Surely a motherfucking c u n t of the highest order like you would be the first to go after all your bullshit and blasphemy. But no, God is deliberately staying His hand to let you enjoy this life and give you a chance of repenting despite all your hard words and DOWNRIGHT LIES. That's because GOD IS LOVE; the fact that you're alive and well (unpunished for now) proves it right there. And instead of being indiscriminate God spares the innocent and righteous and slays only the wicked who need to be slain, so there goes another one of your big fat whoppers out the window. Read these articles below and perhaps they may shed some light on certain issues for you, even with your puny peanut of a brain.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/killergod.html
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/notkill.html
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You're the one lying your fuckin' pasty ass off, YOU BLASPHEMOUS MONGREL! I already gave you the definition of 'murder' and God obviously doesn't fit it. YOU are the murderer here as you proved when you said you would gladly kill innocents. You should be shot posthaste, you fuckin' worthless hypocrite and your body drawn and quartered! Besides God is the Creator who gave life in the first place so He can jolly well take it whenever He wants? WHO THE FUCK IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT NOBODY LIKE YOU TO QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY GOD? I already explained to you that the people who got killed wholly deserved to be destroyed because of their unfathomable wickedness (their crimes are unprintable). They were wantonly corrupting and destroying God's earth. Anyway if God were truly what you say Him to be then why are you even here? Surely a motherfucking c u n t of the highest order like you would be the first to go after all your bullshit and blasphemy. But no, God is deliberately staying His hand to let you enjoy this life and give you a chance of repenting despite all your hard words and DOWNRIGHT LIES. That's because GOD IS LOVE; the fact that you're alive and well (unpunished for now) proves it right there. And instead of being indiscriminate God spares the innocent and righteous and slays only the wicked who need to be slain, so there goes another one of your big fat whoppers out the window. Read these articles below and perhaps they may shed some light on certain issues for you, even with your puny peanut of a brain.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/killergod.html
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/notkill.html
This is the only link you will ever need Jon, http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm (http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm) , your meltdowns are starting to sound a lot like Hitler's rants, he was a devoted Christian who got his ideology direct from the Bible. Fancy that, the most famous EVIL man in History was a devoted Christian. The link I have provided details GOD's numerous murders including all those of innocent men, women, children and infants. Your GOD isn't the merciful creator you think he is. Prior to GOD, man already instinctually knew that murdering others was wrong, after GOD, he learned that murdering others was OK. Faith taught men to MURDER. Jon you need to awaken before you waste your life on LIES, NONSENSE and EVIL.
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not morons. the axle on his truck broke, so he burned it and ditched it. he also left behind most of his supplies and guns.
You now have the FBI involved in a nationwide manhunt. do you really think if he ditched his truck and hopped into another one, they wouldn't have figured that shit out by now ? there is snow on the ground there, tires and feet leaves tracks in snow. these people aren't idiots.
No.
The police broke the truck axle trying to tow it.
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This is the only link you will ever need Jon, http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm (http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm) , your meltdowns are starting to sound a lot like Hitler's rants, he was a devoted Christian who got his ideology direct from the Bible. Fancy that, the most famous EVIL man in History was a devoted Christian. The link I have provided details GOD's numerous murders including all those of innocent men, women, children and infants. Your GOD isn't the merciful creator you think he is. Prior to GOD, man already instinctually knew that murdering others was wrong, after GOD, he learned that murdering others was OK. Faith taught men to MURDER. Jon you need to awaken before you waste your life on LIES, NONSENSE and EVIL.
Dude, I don't think that GOD has "actually" killed anybody, and if you don't believe in GOD then why are you even arguing with anyone about it?
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No.
The police broke the truck axle trying to tow it.
That's not what i heard but i'm not about to argue.
More to the point, people here are acting like it hasn't occured to the FBI that he might try to be misleading them. they kind of do this for a living
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Big boy is dead in a drainage ditch somewhere.
He gave his life for us bitches.
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A Second former LAPD officer releases a manifesto
February 11, 2013
By Anomaly
Christopher Dorner is creating quite a firestorm of attention directed toward the Los Angles Police Department, and now his efforts have doubled in another manifesto created by former LAPD Officer Joe Jones.
In its entirety, it reads:
“My Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO…
I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life.
I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send my condolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.
Unlike Former Officer Dorner, I fear dying; But I also fear living in a society where Innocent people are dying for no reason. A society where pain so great can be afflicted to people who have to desire to live right and treat people right and then be punished for doing right.
They say we all look alike. In very few cases this of course is true. But in most cases it is not. I feel a resemblance to Dorner, (See Photos) However several people who have no resemblance to Dorner have been shot due to the fear of what is taking place. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT FOR CRIMES I DID NOT COMMIT!. Neither does anyone else.
To preface my story I will say this: Just like former Officer Christopher Dorner I used to smile a lot. I loved everyone. I was voted Friendliest Senior of my Sr. Class in High School. I always believed in the system and never got into any trouble. I loved hard and gave to all I could. After Joining the LAPD in 1989 I quickly found out that the world and society had major flaws. I had flaws as well for ever believing that our system of government was obligated to do the right thing. his is what I believed as a young Officer. Without going into major detail, I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day. The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill’s of my experience as an LAPD Officer. Of course I have moved on physically. But mentally and emotionally I still live with flaws.
I can’t go into re-living the emotions of what I went through so I will say this. I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support. I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID’d himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial. I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented and I present them not to be a Whistle blower, However to hope that one would not assume that all of what is being said is Lies as presented by Dorner. I don’t know him, But I know me. I will say from my experience, If a person knows they were wrong it is easier to move on without anger. Seems that Dorner obviously could not move on… Could I just be content and move on with my life and not say anything? Yes…Then I would feel that I for once had my chance to speak on something that hurts me to this day and I did nothing to arouse thought or provoke reform. This is what I hope comes from this whole situation:
1. Families that lost someone to this tragedy find the peace that only God can give at this terrible time.
2. Citizens of Los Angeles be mindful of this fearful time to be an Officer and comply vigorously so that you are not the victim of an Officer on high alert.
3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth.
4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can.
5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style. Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively-hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do!
6. Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God.
In conclusion I say to people who knew none of this about me that one day I will have to reflect on when was the time to speak. When I see the potential for innocent lives to be lost…The time is Now!…JJ”
H/T: Occupy Police .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2987550/posts
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That's not what i heard but i'm not about to argue.
More to the point, people here are acting like it hasn't occured to the FBI that he might try to be misleading them. they kind of do this for a living
this.. just another number on a form they fill out, theres not much he can throw at these guys they haven't already seen before. hope he proves me wrong though..
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This is the only link you will ever need Jon, http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm (http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm) , your meltdowns are starting to sound a lot like Hitler's rants, he was a devoted Christian who got his ideology direct from the Bible. Fancy that, the most famous EVIL man in History was a devoted Christian. The link I have provided details GOD's numerous murders including all those of innocent men, women, children and infants. Your GOD isn't the merciful creator you think he is. Prior to GOD, man already instinctually knew that murdering others was wrong, after GOD, he learned that murdering others was OK. Faith taught men to MURDER. Jon you need to awaken before you waste your life on LIES, NONSENSE and EVIL.
That has to take the cake right there. Either that or you're just trolling. Hitler wasn't by any stretch of the imagination a Christian, let alone a devoted one! A devoted Christian keeps God's commandments (Including 'thou shalt not kill') but Hitler clearly didn't so although he might have professed differently his actions showed him to be the godless criminal he was. The reality was that Hitler feigned his Christianity to appeal to the masses but he acted CONTRARY to the Bible in exterminating God's chosen people (the Jews) and planned to do away with the Church after the war! He was thus the BIGGEST ENEMY of Christianity there was and this was well borne out by his actions. And here you are saying this tool of Satan was 'a devoted Christian who got his ideology direct from the Bible'? Are you a comedian or something? If you are, your joke isn't in the least bit funny. Besides, Hitler was a ROMAN CATHOLIC and Catholics are NOT Christian as they do not obey God and His word. Catholicism is a Satanic counterfeit of Christianity in fact! There was nothing remotely Christian about Hitler nor did his ideology adhere to the Bible's standards, so your latest pile of BULLSHIT has just been flushed down the toilet. To top it all off, Hitler was SATANIC! He derived his enormous power directly from the devil and implemented Satanic policies in his ideology, which is why so many were killed by him. That is the TOTAL OPPOSITE of the bullshit you claimed! Boy, you must be the biggest fuckin' moron on the planet! Rmmber, God is infinitely GOOD and Satan the devil is unspeakably WICKED; it's as plain as a pikestaff whom good men follow and whom evil men follow. I already explained to you that God as a just God HAD to kill those wicked people due to their ABOMINABLE EVIL that was destroying everything so what the fuck's your problem? Again, WHO ARE YOU OR NOBODY ELSE TO QUESTION THE GREAT AND MIGHTY AND TERRIBLE GOD? If God deems someone worthy of execution then nobody can challenge that just and righteous judgment for GOD IS PERFECT AND GOOD AND HOLY. These are incontrovertible facts; don't try to misrepresent God and repeat the same retarded garbage, ignoring what I have repeatedly written so that you can have fun trolling and unjustifiably bashing God. Your article is complete rubbish and utter blasphemy; the 2 articles I posted thoroughly refute your bullshit article that is utterly ignorant and facetious and glib. You are purposely going to Satanic websites that talk the biggest and most ignorant bullcrap about God and His word while conveniently ignoring Christian websites that comprehensively tackle the nonsensical issues your Satanic websites raise. In other words, you and your site are bullshit and I and my sites show God to be correct and your stuff to be wrong. Your article does not explain the context of each situation so of course God looks unreasonable in kiling people but if you did further research you would actually understand the context and see God's just rationale for conducting executions. I can also find sites explaining Islam and putting down Christianity but I won't because I know that my sites have already proven Islam and Islamic websites to be false. Don't post inane websites that have garbage content when you can read my sites that explain why the bullshit websites are wrong and God is right all the time. I also gave you articles relating scientific proof that debunks the nonsense in that blasphemous site you gave me; all the sites I've given you answer perfectly the crap questions and myths posted by the godless crowd so go read them instead of trolling away wih your drivel. E-Cock, you need to awaken before you waste your life on LIES, NONSENSE and EVIL. God commands men not to murder and apart from some portions of the Old Testament which are justified there aren't any killings made by God or His followers. Rather, they often suffer in silence before the godless and wicked and violent, some suffering the deaths of martyrs! Instead of killing anybody when he could well have done so, Christ went to the cross to suffer and die for the sins of mankind when He was guilty of no crime and had done an unquantifiable amount of good! There was no 'before God' as God was always there and His holy laws have only done men good in guiding them in the right path. So please don't bullshit and tell lies to misrepresent God when you're painfully unaware of the realities at hand.
Titus 1:10-13, “For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith.”
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=1147
http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/cult_exposed.htm
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html
http://www.newsmonster.co.uk/paranormal-unexplained/hitler-and-the-secret-satanic-cult-at-the-heart-of-nazi-germany.html
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Dude swam himself to Mexico
The guy doesn't have a plan or knows what he is doing ::)
Alleged cop killer Christopher Dorner went to a Southern California sporting goods store 2 days before he began his murder spree to purchase scuba equipment ... and TMZ has obtained the surveillance video.
Dorner went to Sports Chalet in Torrance -- a beachside community in the L.A. area -- on February 1st. The video shows Dorner carrying in 2 small, yellow scuba tanks as he walks into the scuba section. Sources tell us ... Dorner got the tanks refilled with oxygen.
The video then shows Dorner leaving the scuba section with the 2 yellow tanks, along with another large, black scuba tank. Dorner then goes to the counter, and then has a friendly conversation with the cashier, at times laughing.
Dorner -- who was a member of a Naval undersea warfare unit -- pays cash for the items and then leaves.
The surveillance tape shows Dorner arriving at Sports Chalet at 9:21 PM and leaving at 9:38 PM, just as the store closed.
The bodies of the first 2 victims were found at 9 PM on February 3rd -- 48 hours after Dorner's trip to Sports Chalet.
What's really interesting ... Dorner reportedly tried stealing a boat in San Diego on February 6th ... where scuba gear might come in handy. The plan was thwarted when the prop got tangled in a rope.
Sources tell TMZ ... the U.S. Marshals went to Sports Chalet Sunday and got a copy of the surveillance video.
Law enforcement sources involved in the case have confirmed to TMZ ... the man in the video is indeed Dorner. And, as one law enforcement source put it, the video is significant because "it shows what he was up to."
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So he blows up his truck in big bear, somehow motors 200 miles to San diego, jumps in ocean and swims to TJ? The fucks he gunna do there? Mexicans will think he's a thief and the whites will know exactly who he is. Shittiest plan I ever heard of unless he has a connect in Mexico to get him putt there fast
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Dude swam himself to Mexico
The guy doesn't have a plan or knows what he is doing ::)
Alleged cop killer Christopher Dorner went to a Southern California sporting goods store 2 days before he began his murder spree to purchase scuba equipment ... and TMZ has obtained the surveillance video.
Dorner went to Sports Chalet in Torrance -- a beachside community in the L.A. area -- on February 1st. The video shows Dorner carrying in 2 small, yellow scuba tanks as he walks into the scuba section. Sources tell us ... Dorner got the tanks refilled with oxygen.
The video then shows Dorner leaving the scuba section with the 2 yellow tanks, along with another large, black scuba tank. Dorner then goes to the counter, and then has a friendly conversation with the cashier, at times laughing.
Dorner -- who was a member of a Naval undersea warfare unit -- pays cash for the items and then leaves.
The surveillance tape shows Dorner arriving at Sports Chalet at 9:21 PM and leaving at 9:38 PM, just as the store closed.
The bodies of the first 2 victims were found at 9 PM on February 3rd -- 48 hours after Dorner's trip to Sports Chalet.
What's really interesting ... Dorner reportedly tried stealing a boat in San Diego on February 6th ... where scuba gear might come in handy. The plan was thwarted when the prop got tangled in a rope.
Sources tell TMZ ... the U.S. Marshals went to Sports Chalet Sunday and got a copy of the surveillance video.
Law enforcement sources involved in the case have confirmed to TMZ ... the man in the video is indeed Dorner. And, as one law enforcement source put it, the video is significant because "it shows what he was up to."
Ban scuba tanks.
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So he blows up his truck in big bear, somehow motors 200 miles to San diego, jumps in ocean and swims to TJ? The fucks he gunna do there? Mexicans will think he's a thief and the whites will know exactly who he is. Shittiest plan I ever heard of unless he has a connect in Mexico to get him putt there fast
agreed.
and LOL @ anyone who thnks there aren't 500 FBI and CIA agents shaking every tree they know in mexico looking for this asshole coward fat chocolate-faced negro
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Once he is in Mexico he can catch a $100 bus ride to Costa Rica and blend in with the black Latinos
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LAPD looks like shit regardless
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guy is probably under a bridge somewhere eating a burger
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(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/5/5/3/6/1/7/cops-shoot-innocent-women-pickup-newspapers-dorner-100490234610.jpeg)
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agreed.
and LOL @ anyone who thnks there aren't 500 FBI and CIA agents shaking every tree they know in mexico looking for this asshole coward fat chocolate-faced negro
Groink, you know darn well Dorner could walk from Mexico right into Arizona and live untouched for years as an illegal alien. He could probably collect welfare for 20 years using the name Jesus Garcia and your Social Security Number.
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Groink, you know darn well Dorner could walk from Mexico right into Arizona and live untouched for years as an illegal alien. He could probably collect welfare for 20 years using the name Jesus Garcia and your Social Security Number.
We all know you want Oink's peewee cock in your eager young mouth, hahahahahahaha.
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should be contest ready after being on the run so long i would think
dorner=r en rod
ARE IN ROAD?
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cops are the most useless of all the civil servants... proven time and time and time and time again.
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cops are the most useless of all the civil servants... proven time and time and time and time again.
oh for sure.. they're now a corrupt destructive organism that cant be stopped
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That's not what i heard but i'm not about to argue.
More to the point, people here are acting like it hasn't occured to the FBI that he might try to be misleading them. they kind of do this for a living
CIA guys do their shit for a living too but that didnt stop them from missing 9/11, missing the WMDs in Iraq and screwing up on locating Osama for close to decade.
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The biggest lesson I've got from this -cops will try to kill an old woman on the street without thinking twice because they are scared of ONE MAN who in their imagination MIGHT be in her car- what would they do if the USA was in a state of serious trouble!!!!!
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The biggest lesson I've got from this -cops will try to kill an old woman on the street without thinking twice because they are scared of ONE MAN who in their imagination MIGHT be in her car- what would they do if the USA was in a state of serious trouble!!!!!
the fucked up thing it looked NOTHING like the truck.. Same with the other shooting.. The cops should be charged with attempted murder and whatever other charges they can pile on.
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dormer spotted at the 09 tampa bay pro
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The biggest lesson I've got from this -cops will try to kill an old woman on the street without thinking twice because they are scared of ONE MAN who in their imagination MIGHT be in her car- what would they do if the USA was in a state of serious trouble!!!!!
Danziger Bridge shootings - Six days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, members of the city's police department killed two people: 17-year-old James Brissette and 40-year-old Ronald Madison. Four other people were wounded. All victims were unarmed. Madison, a mentally disabled man, was shot in the back. New Orleans police fabricated a cover-up story for their crime.
On September 4, 2005, New Orleans police received a call from an officer at Danziger Bridge reporting gunfire. Several NOPD officers—including Sgt. Kenneth Bowen, Sgt. Robert Gisevius, Officer Anthony Villavaso, and Officer Robert Faulcon—arrived at the scene in a Budget rental truck. They proceeded to open fire with assault rifles and a shotgun on an unarmed family, the Bartholomews, who had been walking to a grocery store and were then sheltering behind a concrete barrier. 17-year-old James Brissette—a family friend—was killed, and four other people were wounded. Two brothers, Ronald and Lance Madison, fled the scene, but were pursued down the bridge by Gisevius and Faulcon in an unmarked state trooper vehicle. Faulcon fired his shotgun from the back of the car at Ronald, a developmentally disabled man who would later die from his injuries. Bowen was later convicted of stomping him on the back before he died, though this conviction was overturned for lack of physical evidence. Lance Madison was then taken into custody and accused of the attempted murder of police officers.
No weapons were recovered at the scene, and both police and civilian witnesses testified that the victims had been unarmed. Later investigation showed that some shots had been fired in the area by trapped residents attempting to attract the attention of rescuers.
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Ex GF describes him as a complete nutter.
(http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/02/dontdate1.jpg)
There’s been a gulf between the Christopher Dorner that friends called “friendly” and “positive,” and the Christopher Dorner who this week became a real-life Rambo who went on a rampage targeting law enforcement. But now information emerging in court documents and interviews paints a more complex picture of Dorner and his emotional struggles. Ex-girlfriend Ariana Williams told ABC 7 that she was initially attracted to Dorner, who was outgoing and friendly. But she became troubled by his paranoia.
After they broke up, Williams wrote a post about him on DontDateHimGirl.com, and Dorner filed a restraining order against her, according to court papers from 2006. Dorner claimed that Williams was harassing him and sent him a threatening letter to his home. The Associated Press obtained a copy of Williams’ posting on DontDateHimGirl.com through court documents. She posted his badge number and described him as “severely emotionally and mentally disturbed,” ”twisted” and “super paranoid.” She claims that Dorner hated himself for being black and at one point asked her to act more like a white woman. The post said, “Just be careful because this guy is a police officer and he will probably think that he can get away with anything. … If you value your sanity, stay away from this guy.”
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/super-page/christopher-dorners-ex-girlfriend-once-reported-him-to-the-website-dontdatehimgirl-com-to-try-and-warn-people-about-his-violent-behavior/
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Ex GF describes him as a complete nutter.
(http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/02/dontdate1.jpg)
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/super-page/christopher-dorners-ex-girlfriend-once-reported-him-to-the-website-dontdatehimgirl-com-to-try-and-warn-people-about-his-violent-behavior/
Big Fucking deal what an EX Girlfriend says, of course she is going to talk shit about him, they broke up and he even took out a restraining order on her. She is bound to be bitter, twisted and glad she now has an opportunity to bad mouth him. If he was such an obvious cun+, why did she date him, her comments reflect more on her than him. having said that, the guys gone troppo, but I still wouldn't put any weight in what this HAG says! Hopefully he reads this shit and takes her fat arse out too!
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E-Kul, why do you think his family disowned him (prior to to his killing spree)?
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E-Kul, why do you think his family disowned him (prior to to his killing spree)?
Who cares why his family disowned him. Even the fact they disowned him is telling about what type of family they are, most parents support their kids even when they commit horrible crimes, it sounds like it just wasn't a functional family. I think most modern families are more dysfunctional than functional, some more so than others. They raised him, and if he turned out bad they have to take responsibility for their child rearing skills. From my experience, adults who suffer from excessive rage had abusive childhoods and a lack of love and support. I haven't heard much media reports about his family and what happened.
By the sounds of it and the accounts of people who knew him he was a fairly ordinary guy who cared about doing the right thing (perhaps more than most) and sadly was exposed to too many evil arseholes that tipped him over the edge. I guess the reasoning is, in the modern world, if doing the right thing is wrong, well their is no point doing the right thing, because it gets you nowhere. If people won't listen to reason, force is your only other option. I know plenty of arseholes from my past who get some sadistic pleasure from fucking with other people, and if somebody finally had enough and blew those fuckers of the face of the earth, I wouldn't feel sorry for them for a nanosecond.
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Dorner's a professional injustice collector. It stems back to when he got skimped a quarter on the playground.
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/LA-US-Marshal-Suspected-Dorner-Fled-to-Mexico-190790531.html
Former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner -- the suspect in three killings that have targeted law enforcement and the subject of a continuing manhunt -- was suspected last week of fleeing to Mexico, according to a federal court document.
The criminal complaint filed in federal court on Feb. 7 charges Dorner with fleeing to avoid prosecution. It states that there was reason to believe he had crossed the border into Mexico.
An affidavit included in the complaint (PDF) was written by U.S. Marshals Service Inspector Craig McClusky the same day that the search for Dorner led to his burned out truck in the mountain resort of Big Bear.
McClusky recounted the Irvine Police Department's request for assistance from the U.S. Marshal Service in finding Dorner after he became a suspect in the Feb. 3 killing of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan, who is the daughter of an LAPD official mentioned by Dorner is a manifesto that details his alleged revenge plot.
McClusky described "the recent observations of a suspect matching Dorner's description attempting to flee to Mexico," and stated "there is probable cause to believe that Dorner has moved and traveled in interstate and foreign commerce from California to Mexico" to avoid prosecution.
Timeline: Revenge-Plot Slayings | Read: Full Manifesto | Map: LAPD Manhunt | Tips: 213-486-6860
The document also states that U.S. Marshals were tracking a Dorner associate identified only as "J.Y.," who had been spotted in Costa Mesa.
The search for Dorner continued in Big Bear on Monday, even as police followed multiple sightings of the former officer that turned out to be false.
Also on Monday, the Riverside County District Attorney's office filed a charge of murder against Dorner in the shooting death of Officer Michael Crain, who was killed in what authorities have described as an ambush. Crain was shot Thursday while he and his 27-year-old trainee partner were sitting at a traffic light near the Riverside Freeway in a shooting that police described as an ambush.
"We felt the state of the evidence dictated there was no reason to withhold filing charges," Riverside County District Attorney Paul Zellerbach said. "He's a felon at large."
The Los Angeles Police Department on Sunday announced a $1 million reward in the case. More than 600 tips have been received, according to the LAPD.
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The manhunt for fugitive former LAPD officer and suspected murderer Christopher Dorner has taken a toll on Southern California police departments.
Hundreds of officers are working on the Dorner case, not just responding to every credible sighting, but also protecting at least 50 families connected to the angry manifesto Dorner allegedly wrote, saying he would kill police.
The response on Sunday at a Lowe's store in Northridge was massive, but the report that Dorner was there was later found to be false -- like many other sightings.
Timeline: Revenge-Plot Slayings | Read: Full Manifesto | Map: LAPD Manhunt | Tips: 213-486-6860
But police say they're not letting up.
"We'll continue to go until we have Mr. Dorner in custody, and the threat has ceased," LAPD Lt. Andy Neiman said Monday.
That is a tall order -- costly not in dollars, Los Angeles Police Department Chief Charlie Beck said, but also in public safety.
"While this continues, our ability to do other things -- to respond to 911, to do criminal investigations, to do community relations events, is crippled," Beck said.
So what happens if you're the victim of a crime?
A citywide tactical alert can get officers to you if you're in jeopardy.
But commanders say officers may not respond to "smaller" crimes, and you should consider reporting them to your local police station in person.
Neiman said an example of a crime to report in person is "your house is broken into, there's no threat of somebody there now, there's no imminent threat to somebody's safety."
Other law enforcement agencies, such as the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, say the Dorner situation has had little noticeable effect on response times.
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Any whore who would post guys info on a shitty whores website "don't date him hoe" have zero credibility , sounds like a whore who got the shaft and not the elevator
Ex GF describes him as a complete nutter.
(http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/02/dontdate1.jpg)
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/super-page/christopher-dorners-ex-girlfriend-once-reported-him-to-the-website-dontdatehimgirl-com-to-try-and-warn-people-about-his-violent-behavior/
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Any whore who would post guys info on a shitty whores website "don't date him hoe" have zero credibility , sounds like a whore who got the shaft and not the elevator
Yeah, ex boyfriend blows away a woman and her fiance' sitting in a car and ambushes two cops at a traffic light and she has credibility issues... sheesh
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Yeah, ex boyfriend blows away a woman and her fiance' sitting in a car and ambushes two cops at a traffic light and she has credibility issues... sheesh
How credible would she have been back when the ex was a cop?
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Yeah, ask an ex-girlfriend that he took a restraining order out on. ::) ::) ::)
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How credible would she have been back when the ex was a cop?
QFT
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"Hundreds of officers are working on the Dorner case, not just responding to every credible sighting, but also protecting at least 50 families connected to the angry manifesto Dorner allegedly wrote, saying he would kill police."
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"Hundreds of officers are working on the Dorner case, not just responding to every credible sighting, but also protecting at least 50 families connected to the angry manifesto Dorner allegedly wrote, saying he would kill police."
x2, talk about total and complete ownage, this dude has single handedly caused the entire LAPD to meltdown.
Getbigger to the core.
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"Hundreds of officers are working on the Dorner case, not just responding to every credible sighting, but also protecting at least 50 families connected to the angry manifesto Dorner allegedly wrote, saying he would kill police."
Wait ,... Does this mean they will be taking all the POLICE officers off SCHOOL campus watch as promised by the LAPD and Mayor Antonio VaginaGosa after the sandy hook shooting???
So paid cops are more important then school children now???
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wde82IGJ4EQ/TuhTfCK8qPI/AAAAAAAAAsM/vIQpaaPg0AM/s320/intradesting.jpg)
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dormer spotted at the 09 tampa bay pro
[/quote Hw does look like Bill Wilmore. A true getbigger.
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BREAKING NEWS
Possible Sighting of Chris in Big Bear and REPORTS of SHOTS fired
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LMFAO
They Raided a Hotel Room Last night in Tijuana Mexico because there was Gray Nissan Titan parked outside of it
Was it the same Roasted up pickup truck they confirmed was burned in big bear???
Fucking Morons
(http://rotwnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/BLUE-Truck2.jpg)
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www.drudgereport.com is leaking that dorner fled to mexico, wonder why all those dumbass cops were playing in the snow in big bear
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www.drudgereport.com is leaking that dorner fled to mexico, wonder why all those dumbass cops were playing in the snow in big bear
because the LAPD cant charge Tax payers money for the dragnet in mexico
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(http://i.imgur.com/sQg27EA.gif)
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Danziger Bridge shootings - Six days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, members of the city's police department killed two people: 17-year-old James Brissette and 40-year-old Ronald Madison. Four other people were wounded. All victims were unarmed. Madison, a mentally disabled man, was shot in the back. New Orleans police fabricated a cover-up story for their crime.
On September 4, 2005, New Orleans police received a call from an officer at Danziger Bridge reporting gunfire. Several NOPD officers—including Sgt. Kenneth Bowen, Sgt. Robert Gisevius, Officer Anthony Villavaso, and Officer Robert Faulcon—arrived at the scene in a Budget rental truck. They proceeded to open fire with assault rifles and a shotgun on an unarmed family, the Bartholomews, who had been walking to a grocery store and were then sheltering behind a concrete barrier. 17-year-old James Brissette—a family friend—was killed, and four other people were wounded. Two brothers, Ronald and Lance Madison, fled the scene, but were pursued down the bridge by Gisevius and Faulcon in an unmarked state trooper vehicle. Faulcon fired his shotgun from the back of the car at Ronald, a developmentally disabled man who would later die from his injuries. Bowen was later convicted of stomping him on the back before he died, though this conviction was overturned for lack of physical evidence. Lance Madison was then taken into custody and accused of the attempted murder of police officers.
No weapons were recovered at the scene, and both police and civilian witnesses testified that the victims had been unarmed. Later investigation showed that some shots had been fired in the area by trapped residents attempting to attract the attention of rescuers.
wtf dude.. that is disturbing.
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LIVE NEWS FEED
LA TiME confirming Dorner has been in a shoot out with Federal Officials in Big Bear right now
http://www.latimes.com/ (http://www.latimes.com/)
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www.drudgereport.com is leaking that dorner fled to mexico, wonder why all those dumbass cops were playing in the snow in big bear
I said this shit 2 days ago.
He will be caught by a regular citizen... cops never catch people like this.
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Dead pics of Body or its all bullshit kill
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Cops won't take him alive. They'll kill him even if he surrenders. I hope he can take out more pigs.
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I hope he can take out more pigs.
That's fucked up, man.
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LIVE NEWS FEED
LA TiME confirming Dorner has been in a shoot out with Federal Officials in Big Bear right now
http://www.latimes.com/ (http://www.latimes.com/)
High altitude training in peace
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An officer is down
edit* Two are down.
Why are they engaging a expert marksman? Shouldn't they try to just keep him at place and wait for officer that are better suited?
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Christopher Dorner was engaged in a shootout with federal authorities in the Big Bear area, law enforcement sources have told the Times.
The shooting occurred after Dorner allegedly tried to burglarize a home and steal a car. Dorner’s condition was not clear.
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He just shot two more cops?
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He just shot two more cops?
yes
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He just shot two more cops?
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An officer is down
edit* Two are down.
Why are they engaging a expert marksman? Shouldn't they try to just keep him at place and wait for officer that are better suited?
they keep under estimating him
Que the Morons who keep saying he is average at best when it comes to shooting
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Found this little interesting factoid:
In 2002, Dorner and a classmate found a bag belonging to Enid Korean Church of Grace in Enid, Oklahoma. They turned it in to the police. When asked their motive, Dorner said "it's an integrity thing." "The military stresses integrity," Dorner said. "There was a couple of thousand dollars, and if people are willing to give that to a church, it must be pretty important to them." Dorner said his mother taught him honesty and integrity
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He just shot two more?
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Found this little interesting factoid:
In 2002, Dorner and a classmate found a bag belonging to Enid Korean Church of Grace in Enid, Oklahoma. They turned it in to the police. When asked their motive, Dorner said "it's an integrity thing." "The military stresses integrity," Dorner said. "There was a couple of thousand dollars, and if people are willing to give that to a church, it must be pretty important to them." Dorner said his mother taught him honesty and integrity
My how he's strayed from the path of the righteous. His mother would be ashamed.
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My how he's strayed from the path of the righteous. His mother would be ashamed.
Have you read the manifest?
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Have you read the manifest?
Yes. He's killed innocent people. I can't find any justification for it. It's like drones killing civilians.
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stupid cops, just go home its not worth your life..
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they still don't seem to know exactly where he is. Maybe the two cops found him. He shot them and then escaped. Or maybe in the cabin
Its like following a action movie
http://www.latimes.com/
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He's in a cabin, surrounded by police.
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they may be reporting that home owners may be in the cabin with Chris , what are the Percentages the cops will shot the house up and consider it Collateral damage??
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Yes. He's killed innocent people. I can't find any justification for it. It's like drones killing civilians.
imagine if the american military has the same mindset ;D , or hell even the cops from what ive been reading a little bit about.
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He's in a cabin, surrounded by police.
still no sighting of him thou
they could even have lost him again
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Gun battle in progress.
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He's in a cabin, surrounded by police.
How do you know that?
http://www.latimes.com/ (live feed)
they don't at least.
might be the case though obviously
someone claimed he threw a smoke grenade and got away with a car.
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KABC (channel 7 in LA). CHP scanners.
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Yes. He's killed innocent people. I can't find any justification for it. It's like drones killing civilians.
Here is Kelly Tomas , another innocent man killed by SoCal police for just walking around town, they coudnt even give him a ticket so they beat him to death
(http://paloaltofreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/Kelly-Tomas.jpg)
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tracks seems to be showing a car rushed out of there in a Hurry. They're getting reports hes not there
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they may be reporting that home owners may be in the cabin with Chris , what are the Percentages the cops will shot the house up and consider it Collateral damage??
100%
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Here is Kelly Tomas , another innocent man killed by SoCal police for just walking around town, they coudnt even give him a ticket so they beat him to death
(http://paloaltofreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/Kelly-Tomas.jpg)
I understand cops can be corrupt but it doesn't logically follow that all cops are corrupt or evil. The women and her fiancé that Dorner killed weren't even cops.
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They're showing cabin scene live.
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we're the cops injured on the shit list??
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Dorner ruining my supposed to be early bed-going
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An officer is down
edit* Two are down.
Why are they engaging a expert marksman? Shouldn't they try to just keep him at place and wait for officer that are better suited?
Have bets that he makes it to 10 cops before air force napalms his ass.
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Have bets that he makes it to 10 cops before air force napalms his ass.
He's managed to kill all of one, so he has a ways to go.
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wtf happened to the stream :/
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Yes. He's killed innocent people. I can't find any justification for it. It's like drones killing civilians.
what was his complaints?
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if he is in that Cabin ...
Why is there ONLY 3 Cops/Fed cars out there for him ??? ???
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what was his complaints?
He got fired for filing a false report, I think.
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I'm guessing the cops are firing on a cabin containing a family on vacation and there's a 5 year old in there shooting a toy gun at his brother. They'll all be massacred by the LAPD.
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fuck sake. apparently there was a massive "gun battle" going on a few moments ago. Just after the stream went out :/
Found a link now though. Maybe they didn't want to show when they killed everyone in the cabin lol
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what was his complaints?
The reason he's killing people? I think we all know his feelings on police injustice and corruption. None of that matters when you kill innocent people. If h killed police offices who directly harmed or killed innocent people I wouldn't give a shit but he's not. What he is, is a hypocrite.
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the real Dorner has escaped. This is just a decoy to make the police look good
Free Wiggs
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The reason he's killing people? I think we all know his feelings on police injustice and corruption. None of that matters when you kill innocent people. If h killed police offices who harmed or killed innocent people I wouldn't give a shit but he's not. What he is, is a hypocrite.
I havent read the manifesto and was asking a question about it. Relax lol..
Any specific complaints?
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if he is in that Cabin ...
Why is there ONLY 3 Cops/Fed cars out there for him ??? ???
shitload of cars down the road a bit
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YUP....he gave them the slip and scuba'd to mexico ::)
LOLOL....I hope they shoot him so many times he turns into negro paste
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YUP....he gave them the slip and scuba'd to mexico ::)
LOLOL....I hope they shoot him so many times he turns into negro paste
the guy holed up there is our own Wiggs
believe me
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He got fired for filing a false report, I think.
from the manifesto
Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. Christopher Gettler? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.
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I havent read the manifesto and was asking a question about it. Relax lol..
Any specific complaints?
Archer77 is a cop lover, he would much prefer to see corrupt cops continue killing thousands of innocent people than to see someone stand against it and prevent future injustices even if it does mean a few more innocent people being sacrificed. It is people like Archer77 that have seen the corruption problem grow to the proportions it has now, this is how corrupt people work, they trust that no one will stand up to them and go on constantly causing suffering to innocent people. The only way to fight against them is on their own terms. Corruption has no problem with killing innocents, and unfortunately, sometime to stand against this evil, innocents also need to be sacrificed. Pay no attention to Archer77, he is more than likely a police officer and not to be trusted.
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The reason he's killing people? I think we all know his feelings on police injustice and corruption. None of that matters when you kill innocent people. If h killed police offices who directly harmed or killed innocent people I wouldn't give a shit but he's not. What he is, is a hypocrite.
Jesus fucking Christ not this same argument again. One guy goes on a shooting rampage against pigs. Do you even know what the function of the police is? They exist to break up protests and keep the general pop in order. Read a book you homo.
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they're claiming hes hold up in the cabin currently.
In before colleteral damage. Possible when the stream went out ::)
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YUP....he gave them the slip and scuba'd to mexico ::)
LOLOL....I hope they shoot him so many times he turns into negro paste
FEDS and Police said he was in Mexico and took the Drag net to mexico yesterday
He got the slip on them again , thats why he smoked 2 more today, because the cops were lolly gagging around big bear thinking he was already in mexico
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Chris Dorner +4 kills +2 injured
LAPD +1
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I havent read the manifesto and was asking a question about it. Relax lol..
Any specific complaints?
Sorry, man. The short version is that Dorner claims the LAPD were harming innocent people(not a surprise and probably true) and he was terminated after making a complaint about the abuse. He believes gphe was unjustly terminate by the LAPD in an effort to silence him. The father of the woman he killed represented him in his case against the LAPD.
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Holy shit. they just got pranked lol! ( they stopped their currecnt interview to cut to another call)
"A limo driver shot dorner"
"did you just say a limo driver?"
"yes, a limo driver on his way to a block part got caught up in the shotting and are belived to have hit dorner"
"silence"
"....you're still not realising this is a prankcall? Dumbass" and then the call gets cut ;D
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FEDS and Police said he was in Mexico and took the Drag net to mexico yesterday
He got the slip on them again , thats why he smoked 2 more today, because the cops were lolly gagging around big bear thinking he was already in mexico
really...is that why he is pinned down and going to die ?
did you ever think they said that to get his dumb ass to pop his head up.....and it worked like a charm?
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Archer77 is a cop lover, he would much prefer to see corrupt cops continue killing thousands of innocent people than to see someone stand against it and prevent future injustices even if it does mean a few more innocent people being sacrificed. It is people like Archer77 that have seen the corruption problem grow to the proportions it has now, this is how corrupt people work, they trust that no one will stand up to them and go on constantly causing suffering to innocent people. The only way to fight against them is on their own terms. Corruption has no problem with killing innocents, and unfortunately, sometime to stand against this evil, innocents also need to be sacrificed. Pay no attention to Archer77, he is more than likely a police officer and not to be trusted.
Yeah, that's it. You're delusional and paranoid. Show a little human decency.
Jesus fucking Christ not this same argument again. One guy goes on a shooting rampage against pigs. Do you even know what the function of the police is? They exist to break up protests and keep the general pop in order. Read a book you homo.
The argument keeps coming back because its sound. I find it disgusting that people like you have no value for human life. You're salivating like a pack of backwards savages. You are getting off on the loss of human life.
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He will die today.
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hahahahaaaaa.....I can't wait until they kill him :D
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He will die today.
Maybe they gotta wait it out?
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Yeah, that's it. You're delusional and paranoid. Show a little human decency.
You are disgusting. Your love and support of the TRUE BAD GUYS is morally repugnant!
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idiot policemen are hunting for the guy in the snowy mountains of california when i know for a fact he is in Texas.
This was him yesterday
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=454088.0;attach=499105;image)
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hahahahaaaaa.....I can't wait until they kill him :D
Apparently your an agent of the illuminati and NWO. Can't you see he's a hero?
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really...is that why he is pinned down and going to die ?
did you ever think they said that to get his dumb ass to pop his head up.....and it worked like a charm?
or they got lucky when checking what is supposed to be empty cabins after a major cutdown in bigbear (their words, besides lucky)
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gun shots 5 min ago
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You are disgusting. Your love and support of the TRUE BAD GUYS is morally repugnant!
No moron, I'm morally and ethically consistent. You preach about how disgusting gun violence is and how Americans are a bunch of violent gun living fools but you're practically orgasmic over this. You're sick.
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Sorry, man. The short version is that Dorner claims the LAPD were harming innocent people(not a surprise and probably true) and he was terminated after making a complaint about the abuse. He believes gphe was unjustly terminate by the LAPD in an effort to silence him. The father of the woman he killed represented him in his case against the LAPD.
long story short
he was mad the LAPD took his Career in law enforcement and LAPD also contacted the navy so that they could cancel his Military career, this caused him to lose his jobs and lose both his homes he owned
he said he would make the people responsible pay, by a taking what they love most too, and having them live the rest of their lives without them
just like he had to live without his career as a cop or military
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either way you look at it Dormer wins, even if he dies.. the loved ones of those people will never be brought back.
why lose when you can just die
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or they got lucky when checking what is supposed to be empty cabins after a major cutdown in bigbear (their words, besides lucky)
yes...it's luck when you are searching for Chris Dorner in Big Bear, and you find Chris Dorner in Big Bear.
you stop to think WHY they were checking the cabins? maybe to make sure they didn't leave the lights on? ::)
I'm just happy knowing this fat disgusting muderous scum negro is going to be shot to death. and I'm happy that right now he KNOWS he's going to die.....hahahahahahahaha aaaa
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Can you buy grenades in america?
Maybe hes waiting for the swat team rushing into the cabin and then Boom everyone dies
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No moron, I'm morally and ethically consistent. You preach about how disgusting gun violence is and how Americans are a bunch of violent gun living fools but you're practically orgasmic over this. You're sick.
Ignoring the massive pain, suffering and death of innocent people caused by corrupt cops and then showing moral outrage over a few innocent deaths by those who fight against it, is not morally consistent, it is morally bankrupt. If you accept that corruption is rife in power circles and that something needs to be done about it to minimise loss of innocent life, then you would be rooting for Chris Dormer. if their were more Chris Dormer's their wouldn't be such a high level of innocent lives lost as doing what was right would be the norm. Sadly, the majority of citizens are incapable of seeing the big picture and devoid of any real morality. They will continue to enable corruption and a far greater loss of innocent lives. Sadly, this is why their is so much suffering in life, the majority of people who think they are Moral agents are in fact deeply immoral and lack the ability to see their complicity in EVIL.
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They (LAPD) got him kicked out of the US NAVY?
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They (LAPD) got him kicked out of the US NAVY?
yes, they contacted the navy and the navy shut him down , so says chris
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you stop to think WHY they were checking the cabins? maybe to make sure they didn't leave the lights on? ::)
Trying to get an exclusive interview with a high altitude training Falcon before his pro boxing debut?
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Trying to get an exclusive interview with a high altitude training Falcon before his pro boxing debut?
You have missed a lot i see.....Falcon is 4-1 with 3 ko's
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They did him dirty
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He may die today, But his STORY will live forever
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Ignoring the massive pain, suffering and death of innocent people caused by corrupt cops and then showing moral outrage over a few innocent deaths by those who fight against it, is not morally consistent, it is morally bankrupt. If you accept that corruption is rife in power circles and that something needs to be done about it to minimise loss of innocent life, then you would be rooting for Chris Dormer. if their were more Chris Dormer's their wouldn't be such a high level of innocent lives lost as doing what was right would be the norm. Sadly, the majority of citizens are incapable of seeing the big picture and devoid of any real morality. They will continue to enable corruption and a far greater loss of innocent lives.
Simply logic. Cops can be corrupt but it does not follow that all cops are corrupt. To believe that you have to dehumanized a person to the extent that they are no longer human but an object or symbol. You know nothing about the cop that was killed. Did he have a wife? Children? Was he a good honest man? You don't give a shit about any of that. He's not a person to you. You're no better than the abusive power you claim to despise. You're actually worse because your a hypocrite.
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seems like his truck got a broken axle which forced him to leave the car. Maybe he had something Big planned but now he can't get there, and have to end this in the cabin.
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He did NOT kill the white people who were in the cabin.
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He may die today, But his STORY will live forever
Yes, the story of a pussy fat negro who blew a gasket and shot an innocent woman.
I cannot wait until they kill him, hopefully he suffers a great deal and then they blow his head off
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Yes, the story of a pussy fat negro who blew a gasket and shot an innocent woman.
I cannot wait until they kill him, hopefully he suffers a great deal and then they blow his head off
Will not happen Groink
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are already on their way to get his safe Release
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He's in 7 oaks which is about 8 miles from where truck was found. It's in a canyon with a lot of places to 'snipe' from
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apparently burned his car containing a cold weather surviving kit. Knowing he couldnt carry it when the car broke down. I wonder what he carried into the cabin
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Simply logic. Cops can be corrupt but it does not follow that all cops are corrupt. To believe that you have to dehumanized a person to the extent that they are no longer human but an object or symbol. You know nothing about the cop that was killed. Did he have a wife? Children? Was he a good honest man? You don't give a shit about any of that. He's not a person to you. You're no better than the abusive power you claim to despise. You're actually worse because your a hypocrite.
Corruption happens not because of corrupt individuals, but because good people do nothing. So by proxy, regardless of if police are participating in corruption, by their very inaction they are complicit in it, they are partly responsible. Nobody is going to shed a tear over a Policemen getting killed, the modern Police force as a collective do way more harm than good and they are no better than anyone else, do you give a fuck about the many truck drivers or miners killed each week, of course not, they were just doing their jobs, and with all dangerous jobs comes risk. As grown men, they chose that risk.
You cannot be a good honest man and a police officer, that is a contradiction in terms, if they were good men, they would either speak out against corruption or leave the force. You can't join a corrupt criminal organisation and claim to be a good guy because you don't participate in corrupt activities. Your association with this group makes you an accessory to the crime. A truly good person would literally go crazy in a corrupt organisation such as the modern day police forces.
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He's in 7 oaks which is about 8 miles from where truck was found. It's in a canyon with a lot of places to 'snipe' from
they have been claiming for the last 45 min or so that hes in the cabin.
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Yes, the story of a pussy fat negro who blew a gasket and shot an innocent woman.
I cannot wait until they kill him, hopefully he suffers a great deal and then they blow his head off
X2
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the running man, live on ktla
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apparently burned his car containing a cold weather surviving kit. Knowing he couldnt carry it when the car broke down. I wonder what he carried into the cabin
his Missle Laucher that Abc news reported earlier this week
(http://olive-drab.com/images/id_m39_missiletrk_01_700.jpg)
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they have been claiming for the last 45 min or so that hes in the cabin.
He shot 2 more cops. Not from that cabin. Could be in there now. Well see as soon as that armored car gets shoved up his fat ass
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He shot 2 more cops. Not from that cabin. Could be in there now. Well see as soon as that armored car gets shoved up his fat ass
he did??? ....
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the old bill did well
he escaped on foot and the clueless pricks didn't have a clue.
laughable- typical clueless gun happy yanks
this fuck up is right up there with the worlds greatest sniper. obviously broke cover on the range then
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"almost with absolute certainty surrounded in the cabin"
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Dorner needs to do something now and go out in a blaze so I can get some sleep.
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he did??? ....
Yes
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Yes
I was being sarcastic, Happened a solid 1.5 hour ago as posted in this thread as it happened
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Ha... Sorry, I'm slow ;)
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whats the body count on dorners by the cops?
2 mexican woman and a white surfer so far
no Kills yet
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people that were tied up etc said he didn't hurt them or anything.
...that will not be the case on the upcoming hollywood movie probabably lol
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hopefully right now they are taunting him with a megaphone
"you are a dead fat ni9.9er....we are not going to let you live, we are going to blow your brains out.....you are DEAD .....hahahahahahahahahah aaaa"
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ALL this is because of that cop Teresa in the Manifesto
i hope she is happy
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Chupacabra
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5:36 pm .... Police order media helicopters from the area.
This way, when he finally does emerge with his hands up, they can shoot him without that video making youtube.
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hopefully right now they are taunting him with a megaphone
"you are a dead fat ni9.9er....we are not going to let you live, we are going to blow your brains out.....you are DEAD .....hahahahahahahahahah aaaa"
hasn't he already accomplished what he really wanted to do? Make his officer or whatever suffer for the rest of his life by killing whoever he killed..
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hopefully right now they are taunting him with a megaphone
"you are a dead fat ni9.9er....we are not going to let you live, we are going to blow your brains out.....you are DEAD .....hahahahahahahahahah aaaa"
he has the high ground on them with a sniper rifle, he will die, but will die with smile im sure of it
(http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2013/news/130218/chris-dorner-300.jpg)
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Chupacabra
yes Her
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Reporter was asking "is the helicopter showing smoke appearing?!"
now the stream cut
shit is about to hit the fan
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5:36 pm .... Police order media helicopters from the area.
This way, when he finally does emerge with his hands up, they can shoot him without that video making youtube.
Good....I hope they shoot him 655 times
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he has the high ground on them with a sniper rifle, he will die, but will die with smile im sure of it
(http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2013/news/130218/chris-dorner-300.jpg)
inside a cabin.. wouldn't he himseld get sniped if his head popped up
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Reporter was asking "is the helicopter showing smoke appearing?!"
now the stream cut
shit is about to hit the fan
he is shooting Helicopters???
Going GTA grand theft auto style
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what kind of smoke is that?
(http://i.imgur.com/iODNkhZ.jpg)
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inside a cabin.. wouldn't he himseld get sniped if his head popped up
yea, way too many snipers pointed his way then the other way around
stick a fork in him
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Corruption happens not because of corrupt individuals, but because good people do nothing. So by proxy, regardless of if police are participating in corruption, by their very inaction they are complicit in it, they are partly responsible. Nobody is going to shed a tear over a Policemen getting killed, the modern Police force as a collective do way more harm than good and they are no better than anyone else, do you give a fuck about the many truck drivers or miners killed each week, of course not, they were just doing their jobs, and with all dangerous jobs comes risk. As grown men, they chose that risk.
You cannot be a good honest man and a police officer, that is a contradiction in terms, if they were good men, they would either speak out against corruption or leave the force. You can't join a corrupt criminal organisation and claim to be a good guy because you don't participate in corrupt activities. Your association with this group makes you an accessory to the crime. A truly good person would literally go crazy in a corrupt organisation such as the modern day police forces.
It also happens when bad people think they are doing good. They always try to justify it.
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he is shooting Helicopters???
Going GTA grand theft auto style
I was trying to articulate that better lol. helicopter camera filming smoke,
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Unconfirmed report, 1 of the shot cops has died.
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even though hes a dead man, dormer wins this ;D
those innocents will never be brought back
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yea, way too many snipers pointed his way then the other way around
stick a fork in him
I guess the question is how he decides to go out.
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Use a bigger god damn rifle if you are going to go out!
Wounds do not count! Kills count!
m14 sopmod would be great for a rifle marksman expert.
lmao, look at this steroid junky wannabe tough guy.
Why don't you go out there and get him then??! Or not enough tren in your system?
what's that....you don't have enough cum in your anus, and you're grumpy?
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why doesn't he offer them a snowball fight.
whoever wins wins
and then its all forgotten about
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can someone please call Dorner and ask him is hes planning on dragging this out or making shit hit the fan soon. No need to stay up if this shit is going to take hours.
Falcon?
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(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c28.0.403.403/p403x403/556226_512947335411061_19577741_n.jpg)
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even though hes a dead man, dormer wins this ;D
those innocents will never be brought back
You post a smiley face over the death of innocent people, but I'm negative ::)
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he should get undressed to only his underwear and go out and start running at the police, which would lead panicing cops to shoot an unarmed man and cause a even bigger stir
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inside a cabin.. wouldn't he himseld get sniped if his head popped up
He's using smoke grenades and supressive fire. He knows he's going down but he's down like a champ
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i bet he'll call CNN and offer his surrender, and the police will shoot him anyway.
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(http://i.imgur.com/csrDAI1.jpg)
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what's that....you don't have enough cum in your anus, and you're grumpy?
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lol, no reason to get so defensive since you got called out. Shouldn't you be busy pinning more tren and photoshopping your own pics for that perfect alpha male jaw?
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He's using smoke grenades and supressive fire. He knows he's going down but he's down like a champ
bad throw ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/0KKQ6CW.jpg)
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(http://cbsla.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/chris-dorner-lapd.jpg?w=311)
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"we hope we can take this guy into custody"
As if that's going to happen.. ::)
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lol, no reason to get so defensive since you got called out. Shouldn't you be busy pinning more tren and photoshopping your own pics for that perfect alpha male jaw?
shouldn't you be busy sucking your boyfriends cock and obsessing over me you queer?
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just send the swat team in there to kill everyone which will eventually happen anyway
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"we hope we can take this guy into custody"
As if that's going to happen.. ::)
he wont know for sure if its him or not until we have him in handcuffs and in a jail cell .
::)
Chief Beck already has a KILL ON SIGHT , just ask the White Boy surfer or 2 Mexican New Paper girls
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shouldn't you be busy sucking your boyfriends cock and obsessing over me you queer?
Hey bro, sorry to break this to you but you can pin all the drugs you want but that will never make you into the Arnold tough guy you always wanted to be.
Thank me later
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The two officers down....TMZ accidently said that they were killed
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"we hope we can take this guy into custody"
As if that's going to happen.. ::)
yeah, they know what they're doing.
the more they tell teh national media they want to bring him in alive... the more you know he's going home with 70 bullet holes in him.
although unless he was butt naked with both hands in air begging to surrender, it'd be tough if I was a cop not to shoot him.
Two cops did try to stop him today... one dead, one injured... he's a better shot.
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Hey bro, sorry to break this to you but you can pin all the drugs you want but that will never make you into the Arnold tough guy you always wanted to be.
Thank me later
that's not what your mom says, she begs me to go easy on her anus, she's afraid you'll wake up
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LOL. While I was on my anti-police rant a detective from the Victorian Police rang me to discuss an assault my partner and I witnessed a few weeks ago, he seemed like a decent man.
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LOL. While I was on my anti-police rant a detective from the Victorian Police rang me to discuss an assault my partner and I witnessed a few weeks ago, he seemed like a decent man.
To bad, he deserves to die. You've issued your secular fatwa.
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partner ???
are there things
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/644385_486197698082476_1464047068_n.jpg)
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partner ???
are there things
"Partner" It seems to be the politically correct term at the moment. It used to be called girlfriend, but that is no longer politically correct. The term partner is more gender neutral and a catch all term.
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yeah, they know what they're doing.
the more they tell teh national media they want to bring him in alive... the more you know he's going home with 70 bullet holes in him.
although unless he was butt naked with both hands in air begging to surrender, it'd be tough if I was a cop not to shoot him.
Two cops did try to stop him today... one dead, one injured... he's a better shot.
"I can't imagine what the kids at the schools are going through"
It's obvious hes not planning on hurting anyone that isn't somehow related to his "cause"
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"He's a cold blooded killer, there's no doubt about that"
-Reporter guy
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NL4E9bUIx7E/TmYS-alyEqI/AAAAAAAADBY/UFKvkOsssGk/s1600/thumbs-up-low-res.jpg)
Also fans have gathered on site with signs saying don't shoot him. Are they women who want to fuck him?
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Maybe they need to send in Colonel Trautman to talk him down.
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http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/458066732
Apparently 4chan is calling a local pizza place ordering pizza to the cabin and asking for dorner lol.
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Where's Machete when you need him?
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previous Live prank call
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look at that psycho smile he got, his eyes are stuck deep in layers of psychopathic facial swelling,
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You post a smiley face over the death of innocent people, but I'm negative ::)
that was a big fucking grin actually.
police execute HUNDREDS of innocent people every year with tasers, do they deserve a gruesome death too?
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have they tried offer the fatso some fried chicken and water melon, see if he give up for it?
I give it 50% chance of working
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have they tried offer the fatso some fried chicken and water melon, see if he give up for it
I give it 50% chance of working
Bite your tongue. Dorner is an American anti-hero. A rogue and rascal maybe, but no cold blooded murderer.
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american media is hilarious.
So they're talking to a guy that knows the guy that got carjacked by dorner. "tom"
"he pointed a gun at him and said that he should get out of the car and he didn't want to hurt him"
"wow. Did he know who he was tom?"
"Yes, he said that he knew exactly who it was when he saw him"
"wow hes so lucky tom"
"Yes he certanly is."
"Do you think he prayed?"
"what?"
"Do you think he prayed tom?"
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Here they go
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have they tried offer the fatso some fried chicken and water melon, see if he give up for it?
I give it 50% chance of working
no, not one white boy with balls willing to go over there and give him some grub
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Maybe they need to send in Colonel Trautman to talk him down.
Tell the body bag factory 3rd shift to boil up some coffee and kick it into high gear if he can't.
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no, not one white boy with balls willing to go over there and give him some grub
His ex girlfriend said he hated being black. He might consider a white face a friendly face.
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apparently the cabin hes in is 25 feet from the Police holdup "center". So its possible hes been 25 feet from the police for the last couple of days , if hes been there for a while which is possible.
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no, not one white boy with balls willing to go over there and give him some grub
they should feed him with the helicopter maybe, like a retarded kingkong creature he is
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Confirmed that one of the Cops died today in the shoot out
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a good supply of body bags
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His ex girlfriend said he hated being black. He might consider a white face a friendly face.
are all the dead cops he killed black???
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no, not one white boy with balls willing to go over there and give him some grub
no they are just going to blow his brains out.
it seems "tough guy" Dorner has killed one of those Sherriffs deputies he shot earlier.
a sherriff's deputy in Big Bear, a resort community...guy probably never pulled his gun in his life.
I can see the connection to his lashing out at corrupt LAPD officers.
this guy is utter scum
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are all the dead cops he killed black???
A cracker, a ching chong and a nig nog.....walk into a bar.
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6.32pm ET
The LA Times has spoken to the owner of the cabin where Christopher Dorner has apparently taken shelter.
Candy Martin said she was "in a state of shock" after seeing her vacation cabin in Big Bear surrounded by police. The cabin is in a cluster of seven cabins close to Highway 38. Dorner had reportedly stolen a vehicle from a different cabin earlier in the day.
Local media are reporting 200 police officers have surrounded the cabin.
From the Times:
Candy Martin was sitting down for an episode of "Walking Dead" with her daughter when she turned on the news and saw her Big Bear-area vacation cabin surrounded by police amid reports of a shootout involving the wanted fugitive Christopher Dorner.
Her son called police to let them know she was the owner of the 85-year-old cabin, one in a cluster of seven cabins that she owns along California 38 near the community of Seven Oaks. Martin talked to police, telling them the cabins were supposed to be empty Monday and had no cable, phone or Internet service. There were also no firearms inside, she said.
"I was basically in a state of shock," Martin said.
Martin said her sisters spent time in the main cabin over the weekend. She said she wasn't surprised Dorner was able to make his way inside -- the old cabins "are easy to get into," she said.
"It's quite shocking," she said. "I mean, it's good and bad news. If it is him, I hope that they catch him and this whole horrible thing is put to rest. At the same time, who wants this happening on their property?"
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no they are just going to blow his brains out.
it seems "tough guy" Dorner has killed one of those Sherriffs deputies he shot earlier.
a sherriff's deputy in Big Bear, a resort community...guy probably never pulled his gun in his life.
I can see the connection to his lashing out at corrupt LAPD officers.
this guy is utter scum
But Groink, isnt Police Protocol to get a Negotiator in there and talk him down first???
They must stick to Protocol
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But Groink, isnt Police Protocol to get a Negotiator in there and talk him down first???
They must stick to Protocol
LOL at Groink taking it personally. He is quite happy for Police to break the LAW when it comes to murdering people, just not the other way around.
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no they are just going to blow his brains out.
it seems "tough guy" Dorner has killed one of those Sherriffs deputies he shot earlier.
a sherriff's deputy in Big Bear, a resort community...guy probably never pulled his gun in his life.
I can see the connection to his lashing out at corrupt LAPD officers.
this guy is utter scum
RIP
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LOL at Groink taking it personally. He is quite happy for Police to break the LAW when it comes to murdering people, just not the other way around.
You don't know if the people he killed committed any crimes.
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6.32pm ET
The LA Times has spoken to the owner of the cabin where Christopher Dorner has apparently taken shelter.
Candy Martin said she was "in a state of shock" after seeing her vacation cabin in Big Bear surrounded by police. The cabin is in a cluster of seven cabins close to Highway 38. Dorner had reportedly stolen a vehicle from a different cabin earlier in the day.
Local media are reporting 200 police officers have surrounded the cabin.
From the Times:
Candy Martin was sitting down for an episode of "Walking Dead" with her daughter when she turned on the news and saw her Big Bear-area vacation cabin surrounded by police amid reports of a shootout involving the wanted fugitive Christopher Dorner.
Her son called police to let them know she was the owner of the 85-year-old cabin, one in a cluster of seven cabins that she owns along California 38 near the community of Seven Oaks. Martin talked to police, telling them the cabins were supposed to be empty Monday and had no cable, phone or Internet service. There were also no firearms inside, she said.
"I was basically in a state of shock," Martin said.
Martin said her sisters spent time in the main cabin over the weekend. She said she wasn't surprised Dorner was able to make his way inside -- the old cabins "are easy to get into," she said.
"It's quite shocking," she said. "I mean, it's good and bad news. If it is him, I hope that they catch him and this whole horrible thing is put to rest. At the same time, who wants this happening on their property?"
I wonder what the odds are that he booby trapped the holy fuck out of the cabin?
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look at that psycho smile he got, his eyes are stuck deep in layers of psychopathic facial swelling,
Are we talking about a stripper or this Dorner guy? Your description could be either.
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Are we talking about a stripper or this Dorner guy? Your description could be either.
Rami was talking about his Mother! ;D
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His ex girlfriend said he hated being black. He might consider a white face a friendly face.
Typical black whore. Speak without using slang, wear properly fitting clothes, and live life without perpetuating a cliche negative stereotype, and then you're labeled as a "Uncle Tom". ::)
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police have apparently been firing tear gas into the cabin.
Didn't they have to be Certian hes in the alone before doing that ::) lol
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police have apparently been firing tear gas into the cabin.
Didn't they have to be Certian hes in the alone before doing that ::) lol
I don't think he is in there, he probably rolled down the mountain, being so swollen from winter cabin constipation
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police have apparently been firing tear gas into the cabin.
Didn't they have to be Certian hes in the alone before doing that ::) lol
My question, do they even know for certain that he's even there?
If I was him, I'd have someone I know call in an anonymous tip to somewhere totally different and rofl while they lobbed tear gas in the front door.
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something is happening now. Green gas
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My question, do they even know for certain that he's even their?
If I was him, I'd have someone I know call in an anonymous tip to somewhere totally different and rofl while they lobbed tear gas in the front door.
no, they cant actually confirm its even him yet. but obviously it seems like it is
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tear gas have been fired.
And now shots fired
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tear gas have been fired.
And now shots fired
They're gassing the shit out of that cabin!
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tear gas have been fired.
And now shots fired
The LAPD are going to light him up, they'll never let him come out of this alive.
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the cabin is now on fire
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previous Live prank call
holy crap! Ronnie the limo driver on his way to the block party
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entire cabin on fire
so they decided to burn him alive maybe.
Or its a diversion, then again no way he can escape
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conspiracy theorists have any guesses on why this all goes down an hour before the state of the union address?
maybe obama has a moment of silence for the people killed, then delivers ideas on why we need drones on US soil?
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the cabin is now on fire
And they're waiting for him to come out the back.
I'll lol if there wasn't anyone in the cabin.
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conspiracy theorists have any guesses on why this all goes down an hour before the state of the union address?
maybe obama has a moment of silence for the people killed, then delivers ideas on why we need drones on US soil?
Boom!
Spot on analysis.
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And they're waiting for him to come out the back.
I'll lol if there wasn't anyone in the cabin.
;D
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they're keeping media FIVE MILES from the cabin.
helicopters are now seeing the smoke.
dude is probaly dead now.
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anti climatic if hes burning alive :/
If he wanted to kill himself I doubt he would burn himself to death. So I guess the police did it somehow?
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How long is this supposed gun battle going to go on for? it's been a while now, and no new information. Is their a shoot-out or not! Fucking useless media,
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conspiracy theorists have any guesses on why this all goes down an hour before the state of the union address?
maybe obama has a moment of silence for the people killed, then delivers ideas on why we need drones on US soil?
"Handle this before I deliver the SOU Address. Or we'll send our guys down there and cut your funding. That's an order"
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And they're waiting for him to come out the back.
I'll lol if there wasn't anyone in the cabin.
X2
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Shock is right NO way will they even try to arrest him they are going to light him up like a x mas tree
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one shot fired inside the cabin,
maybe he didn't like burning alive?
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Boom!
Spot on analysis.
"If only we were able to monitor the area with drones in the last week, these police didn't have to be shot today..."
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LOL @ "ammo exploding"
We heard "one shot from inside".
cabin fully engulfed.
police just waiting.
it's over. dude is dead.
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imagine if he kept hostages that would get burned alive now.. I wonder how they would explain that
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imagine if he kept hostages that would get burned alive now.. I wonder how they would explain that
Imagine if he had an LAPD officer tied up in their, lolz.
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I hope the cabin owners insurance is paid up.
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what are the legalities of burning a house down when it contains a person you want to capture?
I know, they'll blame him for starting the fire. just like WACO... remember the helicopter footage showing the SWAT team tossing in flashbangs/grenades to start that fire?
This time, they chased out the choppers so we can't see who started the fire. I bet they'll blame him.
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LOL @ "ammo exploding"
We heard "one shot from inside".
cabin fully engulfed.
police just waiting.
it's over. dude is dead.
now they are reporting he might have escaped and have seen tracks leading toa horse "corall".
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Possibility he may have escaped to a horse pasture.
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now they are reporting he might have escaped and have seen tracks leading toa horse "corall".
I know, LOLZ.
Idiot cops.
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now they are reporting he might have escaped and have seen tracks leading toa horse "corall".
they're letting choppers in. they're letting cars/traffic back in. i think they have seen his body. they're predicting he'll be in the bathtub with a suicide shot to head.
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4chan ordered him Pizza earlier. :D
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they're letting choppers in. they're letting cars/traffic back in. i think they have seen his body. they're predicting he'll be in the bathtub with a suicide shot to head.
Evidently dude bailed. The cops are prepping to search the surrounding area.
LOLZ.
Also adds credibility to your statement about drones.
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once the cabin starts to collapse they will put the fire out,
they are now discussing maybe there is propane tanks ::)
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"If only we were able to monitor the area with drones in the last week, these police didn't have to be shot today..."
a drone was used on Top Gear America on Tanner Foust...he was in a G-wagen. It was on military training grounds
Showing how they could spot a perp. So, technically, I think that may have been the first use of a drone for entertainment purposes, but showing the real world significance and "need" for drones in aiding LE/armed forces on US soil.
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Possibility he may have escaped to a horse pasture.
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Well, that was pretty fucking ninja. Must be taking advices from Wiggs, nigga bailed the fuck out.
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what are the legalities of burning a house down when it contains a person you want to capture?
I know, they'll blame him for starting the fire. just like WACO... remember the helicopter footage showing the SWAT team tossing in flashbangs/grenades to start that fire?
This time, they chased out the choppers so we can't see who started the fire. I bet they'll blame him.
yeah they threw it from the back of the building where the cameras weren't focused in on and then blamed it on something completely different.
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Dorner may have escaped burning cabin on horseback.
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So they burn a man alive, nice police work ::)
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lol
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yeah they threw it from the back of the building where the cameras weren't focused in on and then blamed it on something completely different.
they also bulldozed WACO and melted the front door (so nobody could examine which direction the bullets came from). The next day.
Same here, I'd bet. they're letting cabin burn.
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Well, that was pretty fucking ninja. Must be taking advices from Wiggs, guy bailed the fuck out.
Modern day Billy The Kid type skills on that escape.
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So they burn a man alive, nice police work ::)
they'll blame the flashbangs. They halted all gunfire and decided to use the wild west "smoke em out" method.
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He escaped?
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He escaped?
FOX assuming it is over. "This appears to have come to a burning and violent end".
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So they burn a man alive, nice police work ::)
He crossed the blue line, this is how it works! Whistle-blowers are dead men walking! Even if he hadn't of taking murderous revenge and just pursued justice the usual way, someone in the force would have tried to take him out.
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Someone needs to send this pic to cnn
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FOX assuming it is over. "This appears to have come to a burning and violent end".
Sounds like he escaped, the police are searching the woods after finding tracks leading away from the cabin and the police at the roadblocks switched directions.
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Open Mic- Some kind of Struggle and Commotion.
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Sounds like he escaped, the police are searching the woods after finding tracks leading away from the cabin and the police at the roadblocks switched directions.
These cops are morons. It's standard procedure to cover all exits.
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they also bulldozed WACO and melted the front door (so nobody could examine which direction the bullets came from). The next day.
Same here, I'd bet. they're letting cabin burn.
Being a young naive kid at the time I believed pretty much everything the media said and thought David Koroush was a monster but it took me looking back on the facts of the event before I realized just how fucked up that situation really was. Terrible. All those people needlessly killed.
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probably in the cabin beating the shit out of him for 2 hours and now they torch the evidence
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#indornerwetrust
Courtesy of /b/
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FOX assuming it is over. "This appears to have come to a burning and violent end".
no body, no confirmation.
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this would have the makings of a great movie, but for a small issue: the main character would be a black man killing white policemen left and right .
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Being a young naive kid at the time I believed pretty much everything the media said and thought David Koroush was a monster but it took me looking back on the facts of the event before I realized just how fucked up that situation really was. Terrible. All those people needlessly killed.
Koresh was a monster, a massive paedophile with a messiah complex. Koresh deserved to die, the children he held hostage didn't. It's only the extreme right wing gun nuts that suggest he was some persecuted innocent civilian.
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burning an AMERICAN'S property
this fucking pigs, i swear they think they are always above the law, not one Charge of ARSON will be brought against them
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"start mop up with fire"
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YOU KNOW there will be a conspiracy theory on how he really escaped, the body wasn't really his...etc.
When is it going to start? Very soon, I'd wager.
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Dodge truck down the hill
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"Conspiracy theorists will say this or that...."
Fox already poo-poo ing any questions about this.
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I'm betting Dorner was never in that cabin at all, it was a pot belly stove at the rear of the cabin that fooled the LAPD.
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"Conspiracy theorists will say this or that...."
Fox already poo-poo ing any questions about this.
the One shot would have been a smart move to make everyone relax a little before escaping ;D
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They just admitted they are intentionally burning it with hopes that it reaches the basement on the scanner.
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it is amazing what these TV reporters spew out to fill the time when they have nothing concrete to say
what a stupid ass job to have. totally degrading (well paid though)
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They just admitted they are intentionally burning it with hopes that it reaches the basement on the scanner.
Lol, imagine their faces if they went in and he wasn't there, but instead found the bodies of some LAPD officers or innocents.
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it is amazing what these TV reporters spew out to fill the time when they have nothing concrete to say
what a stupid ass job to have. totally degrading (well paid though)
they are worse then getbiggers ;D
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they are worse then getbiggers ;D
Getbigs Coverage has been expedient and very extensive, best source on the web for the latest information. TRUE
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They think he is locked up in the basement right now / or possible got away
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they are worse then getbiggers ;D
yeah, at least here we can take the long view
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it is amazing what these TV reporters spew out to fill the time when they have nothing concrete to say
what a stupid ass job to have. totally degrading (well paid though)
i agree, the "gotta keep the chatter", is stupid, and leads the reporters to say stupid, untrue or odd things.
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blondie talking
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Getbigs Coverage has been expedient and very extensive, best source on the web for the latest information. TRUE
ALL from creditable minds ;D
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ALL from creditable minds ;D
Credible bro, credible.
Plus, we get our info from police scanners thanks to /b/. ;D
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what a shambles
Would you hit the blondie?
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"I would imagine there is a possibility that authorities might have..."
"but that is pure speculation..."
Bunch of hacks :)
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police burning peoples homes down .... great police work , Probably more mexican ladies delivering news paper in there
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"no one has put their eyes on christopher dorner"
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"no one has put their eyes on christopher dorner"
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Cabin has a basement. They're waiting for fire to burn into it before entering
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This is Exactly what Chris was taking about, police not giving a shit about YOU or YOUR PROPERTY
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This is Exactly what Chris was taking about, police not giving a shit about YOU or YOUR PROPERTY
I wonder if the owner will seek revenge!
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yeah i gotta say... this case will be studied for decades...
police opened fire/crashed into 2 vehicles that didn't contain any bad guy, only innocents.
then they burned a cabin to catch someone in there.
Dorman belongs on trial for murder, yes. But those police tactics are shit.
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Getbig > all alphabet news outlets
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cindy bachman, spokeswoman for the sheriff department
before the year ends this woman will either come up with a porn video or become a tea party candidate
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Burning cabin, redolent of WACO
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I will go out on a LIMB and say Chris Dormer is DEAD. You heard it here first folks, on GETBIG! Let the conspiracies begin!
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cindy bachman, spekeswoman for the sheriff department
before the year ends this woman will either come up with a porn video or become a tea party candidate
these days, she could be both and that'd be okay with voters :)
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Maybe in basement breating through the small scuba tanks he bought? and then he stands up and them 20 inch pynthons goes wild on you
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go Cindy
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Maybe is basement breating through the small scuba tanks he bought? and then he stands up and them 20 inch pynthons goes wild on you
I'm still hoping he managed to escape. But yeah, he could definitely be breathing through the tanks. Or he could be hiding in a lake somewhere.
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Her maiden name is "Cindy beaver" :). Truth. Would hit
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Her maiden name is "Cindy beaver" :). Truth. Would hit
Pussy shots available???????????????????
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fuck me, a guy called Kyle owns the cabins on fire
funny
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Iwhi
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they did briefly film a cop car going Fast in the opposite direction. And then nothing. I wonder what that was about
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they did briefly film a cop car going Fast in the opposite direction. And then nothing. I wonder what that was about
If he was dead, they would waste no time in reporting it.
I think they don't know shit.
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fuck me, a guy called Kyle owns the cabins on fire
funny
?? havent already an interview been made with the lady that owns tha cabin and a few others close by?
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they did briefly film a cop car going Fast in the opposite direction. And then nothing. I wonder what that was about
Donut Run
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If he was dead, they would waste no time in reporting it.
I think they don't know shit.
"Honestly, I think he escaped in a cop car. Earlier, they had a camera on a car, after the house caught on fire, fleeing from Big Bear mountain. They said they tried contacting the car, but got nothing in return. The care was going 120mph AWAY FROM THE FUCKING FIRE, running stop signs and shit."
From a guy that claims to have been listening to the scanner.
cant remember myself if it was before the fire or not. It was strange though
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10 man swat team about to clear the garage which hasnt been damaged by fire
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Radio feed "Team ready to clear and search garage along with adjacent building"
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Huge massive fail on the part of Dorner. "Assymetrical warfare" LOL
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imagine if they cant find the body lol.
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Pussy shots available???????????????????
Doubtful. She's worked for the county a long time. Used to be way hotter. Had the bleach blonde hair
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i am watching CNN and wondering whether the fact that Anderson cooper is gay makes it less believable
cant take the fucker serious anymore
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i am watching CNN and wondering whether the fact that Anderson cooper is gay makes it less believable
cant take the fucker serious anymore
isn't he like a billionaire?
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alright. 2 in the morning now and I have to go to sleep. Will be amazing if I wake up and find out he escaped. Insane story.
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and for gods sake why isn't wiggs posting here tonight ??? ??? ???
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they just said that he tried to escape when the fire broke out and they pushed him back in? CNN
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and for gods sake why isn't wiggs posting here tonight ??? ??? ???
Good point.
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Just confirmed. He's dead
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alright. 2 in the morning now and I have to go to sleep. Will be amazing if I wake up and find out he escaped. Insane story.
X2 for me in Germany. I'm calling it a night. Damn the suspense! :P
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Huge massive fail on the part of Dorner. "Assymetrical warfare" LOL
I don't think so. He did a shitload of damage and made the lapd piss their pants
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411?
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recording of shootout
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He must have used head shots to kill the cops he killed because their armor did not stop them from dying
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Just confirmed. He's dead
Source?
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Did they murder him or not?
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burnt to ashes or he got away
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I don't think so. He did a shitload of damage and made the lapd piss their pants
Compared to what he could have done it was a massive fail. Idiotically posted a manifesto
and revealed his plans.
Imagine what kind of damage a "sane" soldier/cop could have done. Not that a sane person would
have done any of this in the first place, though.
No real plan, just a deranged psychotic idiot who could only fail. Probably true what the ex-girlfriend said, a paranoiac who hated being black.
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Did they murder him or not?
Can't tell. People listening to the scanners are saying the police just reported a code 4, building all clear.
I don't know if that just means the building is clear, or if it means the tango is down and the building is clear.
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Can't tell. People listening to the scanners are saying the police just reported a code 4, building all clear.
I don't know if that just means the building is clear, or if it means the tango is down and the building is clear.
Shockwave breaking down the lingo for us :D
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Source?
Not sourced. I know things.
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Not sourced. I know things.
Lol, some dude on /b/ is saying that they're stopping anyone leaving the big bear area.
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Just confirmed. He's dead
you mean Wiggs is dead?
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wheres security1, was he not flown in and dropped right on top of the cabin.
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Not sourced. I know things.
::)
Shots Fired reported on scanner just now.
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Here is a scanner if anyone is interested.
http://audio4.radioreference.com/71138770.mp3
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people seriously giving a fuck abuot this
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people seriously giving a fuck abuot this
Sir, n*gga rambo is serious bidness.
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Shots Fired reported on scanner just now.
In my bed on the phone. The suspensw if hes dead or not is too damn high
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rambo is one of my favorites and this guy is actually pulling it off
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In my bed on the phone. The suspensw if hes dead or not is too damn high
LOL....go to bed Swede ;D
It will all be here in the morning
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He just killed himself , massive failure .
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In the original script , Rambo died in first blood
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According to a law enforcement source, police had broken down windows, pumped in tear gas and blasted a loud speaker urging Dorner to give up. When they got no response, police deployed a vehicle to rip down the walls of cabin "one by one, like peeling an onion," one law enforcement official said.
By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure. Then, they heard gunshots likely set off by the fire.
Dorner's body has not been found. Police will search will be focused in the basement area, the source said.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/christopher-dorner-police-demolish-cabin-hear-single-gunshot.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/christopher-dorner-police-demolish-cabin-hear-single-gunshot.html)
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LOL....go to bed Swede ;D
It will all be here in the morning
Im fucking up my morning workout thats for sure lol. All I want is a confirmation if hes dead or not then I can read the rest tomorrow :-D
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Huge massive fail on the part of Dorner. "Assymetrical warfare" LOL
Qft. Alerts every target, hits none, no misdirection, no planted explosives, on the defensive just trying to survive from day 1. Managed the same as any yahoo who randomly shot a few people and then ran into a forest. So much for 'planning this for 5 years.'
2/10 for making me watch.
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Qft. Alerts every target, hits none, no misdirection, no planted explosives, on the defensive just trying to survive from day 1. Managed the same as any yahoo who randomly shot a few people and then ran into a forest. So much for 'planning this for 5 years.'
2/10 for making me watch.
X1000
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they are saying its over
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Qft. Alerts every target, hits none, no misdirection, no planted explosives, on the defensive just trying to survive from day 1. Managed the same as any yahoo who randomly shot a few people and then ran into a forest. So much for 'planning this for 5 years.'
2/10 for making me watch.
You knew his plan was shot when he unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego, and then a few hours later he's back in Riverside and on up to Big Bear. Just trying to survive, when he could have gone under the radar more easily by not publishing his manifesto and announcing his arrival.
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they are saying its over
Have they confirmed a body yet?
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You knew his plan was shot when he unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego, and then a few hours later he's back in Riverside and on up to Big Bear. Just trying to survive, when he could have gone under the radar more easily by not publishing his manifesto and announcing his arrival.
The fact that he had no predesignated fall back position or contingency plan demonstrates he was a world class fuck up.
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Several reports say he was forced back into the burning cabin after trying to emerge. I'll bet the media will get right on it.
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Have they confirmed a body yet?
Nope
For all we know he left a bullet in the cabin to go off in the fire.
I'm telling you they keep underestimating him
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Have they confirmed a body yet?
Nope , but they found an 8'x8' poster of Galeniko's cock hanging in the garage , true story.
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Shorty after the fire, there was a report of a single gunshot so the inference is he shot himself. Well see if that pans out.
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You knew his plan was shot when he unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego, and then a few hours later he's back in Riverside and on up to Big Bear. Just trying to survive, when he could have gone under the radar more easily by not publishing his manifesto and announcing his arrival.
The trouble is he knoew his manifesto would never see the light of day if he was killed first so it was catch 22 for him. Obviously, he was a total psycho anyway and couldn't put two rational thoughts together to save himself. He should have just quietly worked out a hit list and then steadily worked his way through, making them look like muggings or car accidents or something. That's what I'm doing with my Getbig hit list right now. Manifesto coming shortly.
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Obama state of the union up next....
Chris Dorner will be watching it live
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Such a worthless excuse for media.
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Several reports say he was forced back into the burning cabin after trying to emerge. I'll bet the media will get right on it.
They said that a while ago on CNN. It was unclear what they meant for sure but the source said he tried to come out the back and they "pushed him back" and they said this was about the time the fire broke out.
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Obama state of the union up next....
Chris Dorner will be watching it live
Now you're just trolling ;D
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_LAPD_REVENGE_KILLINGS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-12-20-37-20 what officer is going to out muscle him
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Qft. Alerts every target, hits none, no misdirection, no planted explosives, on the defensive just trying to survive from day 1. Managed the same as any yahoo who randomly shot a few people and then ran into a forest. So much for 'planning this for 5 years.'
2/10 for making me watch.
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I get off work to see this smokey the bear, fake rambo, 100,000 page manifesto writing, zero plan having, bitch ass clown is in a cabin.
(http://grizzlybomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/tumblr_lqf1bd9n301qmr00d.gif)
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Now you're just trolling ;D
LoL
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They said that a while ago on CNN. It was unclear what they meant for sure but the source said he tried to come out the back and they "pushed him back" and they said this was about the time the fire broke out.
Yes. I heard it from a few sources...shortly after the fire started.
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Compared to what he could have done it was a massive fail. Idiotically posted a manifesto
and revealed his plans.
Imagine what kind of damage a "sane" soldier/cop could have done. Not that a sane person would
have done any of this in the first place, though.
No real plan, just a deranged psychotic idiot who could only fail. Probably true what the ex-girlfriend said, a paranoiac who hated being black.
That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
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i dont think he is even up there, i think he is in mexico, this is just like the sandy hook, disinfo
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where are all the false flag, bilderberg, illuminati paranoid freaks lol
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That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
QFT
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right now on tv they are showing a cabin burning in the sunlight, as we speak in southern california it is dark outside its 613 pm, no sunlight for almost one hour.
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That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
He sneaked up on almost everyone he killed. He didn't fight those people straight up. He killed a girl and her boyfriend when they were sitting in a car.
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That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
You can say that again.
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That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
and the lapd believed its best hes dead, to each their own
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Obama wearing a blue tie in memory of Chris Dorner
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5119f587/turbine/la-apphoto-la-police-shootings.jpg-20130211/525/351x525)
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right now on tv they are showing a cabin burning in the sunlight, as we speak in southern california it is dark outside its 613 pm, no sunlight for almost one hour.
Media outlets loop video in instances like this, in case he was able to watch TV, they don't want him to know if a SWAT team is preparing to kick the door in. Or so I've been told.
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Media outlets loop video in instances like this, in case he was able to watch TV, they don't want him to know if a SWAT team is preparing to kick the door in. Or so I've been told.
swat team kick in door lol? the place is burned down
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That's not his personality.....this guy wanted the LAPD to know who he was and wanted to fight them straight up....not sneak around like the Unibomber. He knew he was going to die and he didn't care about dying. He wanted to simply get payback and he got as much as he was going to get and then some.
The numbers simply were too much but it was clear that he was the Alpha Male in this fight....LAPD shooting up innocent citizens in fear, drones flying around looking for him, hundreds of officers looking for just one man. He not only proved his point regarding the incompetence of the LAPD but their complete disregard for citizens.
Remember, he was fired for reporting another cop beating and brutalizing a mentally disabled individuals and it was the reason for his payback. Many people in life simply don't have the balls to die for what you believe in and stand for....he wasn't one of them
He sucked , Adam Lanza had better planning than this clown.
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Obama said the Troops are coming home
Got a Standing Ovation
yet He never said WHEN they were coming home
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He sucked , Adam Lanza had better planning than this clown.
What was Lanza's Motivation?
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Dorner's Wikipedia profile is up.....interesting read. Guy had a lot of integrity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Jordan_Dorner
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This guy was a tactical genius. A perfect example of a military and law enforcement background.
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I want to see justice for the innocent citizens that were attacked by the freaked-out, fucked-up cops that were running around in circles, shooting at random people. These motherfuckers need to pay.
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and the lapd believed its best hes dead, to each their own
What's that supposed to mean?
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I know 2 woke who worked with him at Lapd. Both said he was a good guy. Very quiet and unassuming
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swat team kick in door lol? the place is burned down
Are you a moron? They generally loop video in order to keep the person inside blind. I wasn't implying that they were going to kick the fucking door in while the house is burning down you illiterate fuck.
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LAPD ruined him.
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I want to see justice for the innocent citizens that were attacked by the freaked-out, fucked-up cops that were running around in circles, shooting at random people. These motherfuckers need to pay.
Anyone who has a conscience agree with you but killing innocent people is not the way to do it. The ends don't justify the means.
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This guy was a tactical genius. A perfect example of a military and law enforcement background.
Yes, indeed.
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Anyone who has a conscience agree with you but killing innocent people is not the way to do it. The ends don't justify the means.
Are you referring to the police?
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Anyone who has a conscience agree with you but killing innocent people is not the way to do it. The ends don't justify the means.
I totally agree, they should have at least run the plates of both cars first.
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This guy was a tactical genius. A perfect example of a military and law enforcement background.
;D
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Anyone who has a conscience agree with you but killing innocent people is not the way to do it. The ends don't justify the means.
Your such a hypocrite, the Police are always prepared to kill an innocent civilian, and they often do. Where is your moral outrage about that!
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Channel 9 just said he is dead but I do NOT know
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Channel 9 just said he is dead but I do NOT know
They are busy pissing in his corpse. They'll get to the id'ing later
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Does Alex Jones realise that Dorner is pro gun control. I thought he would have loved to see such a staunch pro gun control advocate burned to death, instead he criticised the Governments modus operandi and the ways they cover up their deviant tactics.
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Dorner has revealed himself to be a murderer. We know what he's about, and absolutely do not approve. The shooters in the other incidents are still acting as cops, undisciplined for reckless disregard, and still purporting to be "the good guys". That's the problem.
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Your such a hypocrite, the Police are always prepared to kill an innocent civilian, and they often do. Where is your moral outrage about that!
I'm not a hypocrite because I'm not justifing what corrupt police have done. You kind of have to do that to be considered a hypocrite. As for my moral outrage, I've expressed it here frequently. I don't personally care for most police but that doesn't mean I condone killing innocent people to rectify those injustices.
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They are busy pissing in his corpse. They'll get to the id'ing later
sounds like something animals would do
all explained in the manifesto of how cops treat citizens
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Good to see the highly organised corrupt murderous thugs got the bad guy!
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it said fish and game wardens got into a shootout with him, what fish and game warden engages in gun battle, these guys would never to anything like that
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Are you referring to the police?
Both the police and Dorner.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Jordan_Dorner
Says he is dead.
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Good to see the highly organised corrupt murderous thugs got the bad guy!
Confirmed?
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If he is indeed dead, good fucking riddance.
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it said fish and game wardens got into a shootout with him, what fish and game warden engages in gun battle, these guys would never to anything like that
Yeah they have guns, they can use them.
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I'm not a hypocrite because I'm not justifing what corrupt police have done. You kind of have to do that to be considered a hypocrite. As for my moral outrage, I've expressed it here frequently. I don't personally care for most police but that doesn't mean I condone killing innocent people to rectify those injustices.
Other than today's shooting, the police incidents happened after Dorner's killings.
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it is true, all police forces in the u.s.a. have been ordered to kill american citizens if they think they can get away with it, kill first before anything, it was reported by doug hagman.
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Other than today's shooting, the police incidents happened after Dorner's killings.
What I'm referring to is the desire by many to rationalize dormers killings as some kind of restitution for past crimes committed by the police. This seems to be what Dorner intended to do.
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it said fish and game wardens got into a shootout with him, what fish and game warden engages in gun battle, these guys would never to anything like that
Yes. Take a good look at all of these enforcement agencies. They have all become quite militarized in the past decade or so.
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it is true, all police forces in the u.s.a. have been ordered to kill american citizens if they think they can get away with it, kill first before anything, it was reported by doug hagman.
Yes it's true police are ordered to kill citizens "if they can get away with it." that is the exact term used in the memo. :o
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What I'm referring to is the desire by many to rationalize dormers killings as some kind of restitution for past crimes committed by the police. This seems to be what Dorner intended to do.
Meh, they all suck. Psycho killing the psychotic/corrupt/worthless.
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I'm not a hypocrite because I'm not justifing what corrupt police have done. You kind of have to do that to be considered a hypocrite. As for my moral outrage, I've expressed it here frequently. I don't personally care for most police but that doesn't mean I condone killing innocent people to rectify those injustices.
You say you don't condone killing innocent people yet you openly support corrupt police who regularly kill and wound innocent people. How do you propose we stop Police doing this, we have Police to prevent citizens killing innocents, but who can we get to stop police doing the same thing?
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Yes. Take a good look at all of these enforcement agencies. They have all become quite militarized in the past decade or so.
They are game wardens, of corse they are armed. They aren't maintainance workers
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doug hagman did a big report on it, regarding the issue, it is true.........every cop on every force in the u.s.a. has been ordered to kill american citizens if they can get away with it, why do you think the escalation of citizens deaths by cops has become the norm.
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doug hagman did a big report on it, regarding the issue, it is true.........every cop on every force in the u.s.a. has been ordered to kill american citizens if they can get away with it, why do you think the escalation of citizens deaths by cops has become the norm.
How many citizens have been killed by cops recently? If every cop has this orde there must be a pile of bodies somewhere
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9 said that they took his body out.
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You say you don't condone killing innocent people yet you openly support corrupt police who regularly kill and wound innocent people. How do you propose we stop Police doing this, we have Police to prevent citizens killing innocents, but who can we get to stop police doing the same thing?
Never supported any of that. You're having delusions. Dorner killed innocent people and there is no way around that. You're rationalizing of killing innocents leads down a dark road. It's the same thinking held by suicide bombers and Timothy mcveighs types.
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do the research the info is there, look at LAPD, they nearly killed many innocent citizens, just driving up on them shooting at them.
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I've came to this conclusion.
Dorner was no saint.....and neither is the LAPD.
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Hmm. To a dark place this line of thought will carry us. Great care we must take.
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They are game wardens, of corse they are armed. They aren't maintainance workers
Thanks for clearing that up.
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He sneaked up on almost everyone he killed. He didn't fight those people straight up. He killed a girl and her boyfriend when they were sitting in a car.
You mean like this..... ;D
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7b5DfWYBpaAS5J5g0UGFN4EMt4nheaB_gV61tHs8ucf6ChWPM)
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Never supported any of that. You're having delusions. Dorner killed innocent people and there is no way around that. You're rationalizing of killing innocents leads down a dark road. It's the same thinking held by suicide bombers and Timothy mcveighs types.
You are seriously delusional aren't you, The people who rationalize killing innocents is the Police, the people you are defending. And yes, you are right, the police rationalising killing innocent people leads down a dark road, it encourages others to do the same thing, as this case so painfully highlights. You fail to see the root cause of these type of incidents.
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You are seriously delusional aren't you, The people who rationalize killing innocents is the Police, the people you are defending. And yes, you are right, the police rationalising killing innocent people leads down a dark road, it encourages others to do the same thing, as this case so painfully highlights. You fail to see the root cause of these type of incidents.
Far from delusional. Killing Innocents is wrong, particularly in the name of justice.
The root cause of police corruption wasnt the young woman and her fiancé who were killed by Dorner. The daughter of the man who tried to help him no less. It's sad that you worship this cold blooded killer.
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You mean like this..... ;D
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7b5DfWYBpaAS5J5g0UGFN4EMt4nheaB_gV61tHs8ucf6ChWPM)
In the way that someone who would do that without cause is a complete piece of shit. Yes. Exactly like that. Strong point, Vince.
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Far from delusional. Killing Innocents is wrong, particularly in the name of justice.
The root cause of police corruption wasnt the young woman and her fiancé who were killed by Dorner. The daughter of the man who tried to help him no less. It's sad that you worship this cold blooded killer.
Agreed, Killing Innocents is wrong, particularly in the name of justice, and yet the police you are supporting do just that. Do you not see the problem with your argument. It is sad that you worship such cold blooded Killers as the LAPD.
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You mean like this..... ;D
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7b5DfWYBpaAS5J5g0UGFN4EMt4nheaB_gV61tHs8ucf6ChWPM)
He should have charged a police station full of cops. Now that takes a lot more balls than sneaking up on an unsuspecting couple who don't even know him.
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the best laid plans...
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Agreed, Killing Innocents is wrong, particularly in the name of justice, and yet the police you are supporting do just that. Do you not see the problem with your argument. It is sad that you worship such cold blooded Killers as the LAPD.
You're delusional. When did I ever say I supported the LApd? I never did. Your whole post is drivel based on a lie.
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Here comes the GUN BAN LAW BY OBAMA in the State of the Union
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He should have charged a police station full of cops. Now that takes a lot more balls than sneaking up on an unsuspecting couple who don't even know him.
His beef wasn't with them, it was with the people who fucked him over. It's not science, the father fucked over the wrong person and seriously endangered his family. Only a bully would support fucking with people and their shouldn't be any retribution. Moral of the story: Don't fuck people over and expect to get away with it. If you care about your family, don't take them into the jungle and provoke LIONS!
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Ok let's recap:
Dude gets fired
Dude stews for a few years
Dude write unibomber-esquire manifesto
Dude kills 4 people who had nothing to do with firing
Dude gets burnt up
Case closed. Adios fucker.
Everyone can now go back to the WYHI threads :)
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Moral of the story: Do NOT fuck people over and expect to get away with it. If you care about your family, do NOT take them into the jungle and provoke LIONS!
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BOOOM!!!
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Its over.....he likely commited suicide when the fire started.......just took out his body.
Dorner is gone....but the LAPD will now have to face a new enemy...the wrath of the citizens as well as the people who were shot up for no reason. Lawsuits are going to the flying. Expect a movie
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His beef wasn't with them, it was with the people who fucked him over. It's not science, the father fucked over the wrong person and seriously endangered his family. Only a bully would support fucking with people and their shouldn't be any retribution. Moral of the story: Don't fuck people over and expect to get away with it. If you care about your family, don't take them into the jungle and provoke LIONS!
Nonsense. This kind of silly logic can justify anything. Only s bully would pick on the weak instead of going for the real power and Dorner the bully he is did just that. Instead of confronting the LAPD, he shot a little Asian girl when she wasn't looking.
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You're delusional. When did I ever say I supported the LApd? I never did. Your whole post is drivel based on a lie.
Your whole argument has been focused on Dorner and his moral decline, when he never started that way, the Police on the other hand have a decades old culture and reputation as being morally bankrupt. To express outrage at Dorners criminal actions but to ignore the Polices criminal actions is to take a side. The difference is, one was standing for JUSTICE, while the other was trying to suppress it. In the end Dorner became what he despised, this is the problem with bullies, the only real defence against them is too become one, the difference is, one is a bully for personal gain, the other is a bully to defend others against bullies.
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To balance my distaste for Dorner's incompetence and poor target selection, I have to admit one thing I admire: Everyone has a shit list and everyone chickens out and doesn't do a damn thing about it when they get fucked over. Well he did something. Poorly, but he did something.
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Nonsense. This kind of silly logic can justify anything. Only s bully would pick on the weak instead of going for the real power and Dorner the bully he is did just that. Instead of confronting the LAPD, he shot a little Asian girl when she wasn't looking.
Would you have preferred him to shoot her while she was looking. And what could be more confronting to the LAPD than shooting an officers daughter.
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Sniper Kills Christopher Dorner during Shootout
Christopher Dorner is dead. A sniper reportedly killed the cop killer during a shootout in a cabin in Big Bear, California.
According to a report from Hollywood Life, an NBC affiliate in Texas has announced Dorner's death.
"We have confirmation from the Los Angeles Police Department the ex-cop from LA was shot and killed by a local sheriff's department sniper," Neal Barton, the news director at the affiliate station reports.
The media was told to leave the area of the cabin where Dorner was assumed to be hiding. He was said to have been very heavily armed.
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981849408 (http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981849408)
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His beef wasn't with them, it was with the people who fucked him over. It's not science, the father fucked over the wrong person and seriously endangered his family. Only a bully would support fucking with people and their shouldn't be any retribution. Moral of the story: Don't fuck people over and expect to get away with it. If you care about your family, don't take them into the jungle and provoke LIONS!
yes because that's the way the world works. if you don't do your job to our satisfaction we kill your children. it's in every labor contract ::)
you truly are a fucking imbecile.
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Your whole argument has been focused on Dorner and his moral decline, when he never started that way, the Police on the other hand have a decades old culture and reputation as being morally bankrupt. To express outrage at Dorners criminal actions but to ignore the Polices criminal actions is to take a side. The difference is, one was standing for JUSTICE, while the other was trying to suppress it. In the end Dorner became what he despised, this is the problem with bullies, the only real defence against them is too become one, the difference is, one is a bully for personal gain, the other is a bully to defend others against bullies.
No where in your rambling diatribe does it prove I support police abuses. He wasn't defending people from bullies. He killed a little Asian girl and her fiancé who were minding their own business.
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Would you have preferred him to shoot her while she was looking. And what could be more confronting to the LAPD than shooting an officers daughter.
I would have preferred he put a bullet in his own head and not killed innocent people.
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I would have preferred he put a bullet in his own head and not killed innocent people.
But by doing that he would have killed an innocent person while the true bad guys got away with corruption and continued killing and injuring innocent civilians, the very thing you are so against. Just admit it, you are happy for innocent people to continue to be murdered and nothing to be done about it. You prefer the status quo rather than doing something proactive.
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Suppressors helped him a lot
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was it the same sniper that killed osama bin laden, what bullcrap
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yes because that's the way the world works. if you don't do your job to our satisfaction we kill your children. it's in every labor contract ::)
you truly are a fucking imbecile.
You are so full of shit, suggesting that corruption is somehow comparable to Police doing a poor job, their is a massive difference between highly organised corruption and the inherent suffering and death that creates and incompetence that leads to poor work performance. Go kick a tiger in the face, good luck blaming your attack on the Tiger. Bullies always try and target those they think wont fight back, I guess in this case, the corrupt father bullied the wrong man and he cost his daughter her life, I guess he might rethink his strategy from now on.
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Died choking on soot and blood in a shitty cabin after killing perfect strangers. Quite admirable ::)
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they should have a public showing of his body....i'd drive to LA to piss in his mouth
great news that he was killed by a sniper. as soon as he faced a prepared opponent with equal firepower, the fat negro turned into a dead fat negro.
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ok drudge is reporting a body was removed from a cabin, how was he killed by a sniper, but body removed from cabin, this story is all bullshit mainstream media lies, hes probably still out there, i dont believe one word that is reported on cable tv, its all lies.
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Both Dorner and the LAPD lost all credibility with their actions. Dorner, for murdering innocents. LAPD, for not immediately removing and charging their officers. I'm sure everyone here would agree.
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I've been wrong before, but I doubt that was a sniper. He was holed up pretty right. My guess is self inflicted. I hope it was self inflicted to prove what a little bitch he truely was.
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they should have a public showing of his body....i'd drive to LA to piss in his mouth
great news that he was killed by a sniper. as soon as he faced a prepared opponent with equal firepower, the fat negro turned into a dead fat negro.
Equal fire-power!, 400 heavily armed cops against 1 man with a gun, I guess that's equal if your a mathematically challenged moron. And has your mouth pissing fetish progressed to corpses now?
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Was that lone shot him (suicide)?
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Died choking on soot and blood in a shitty cabin after killing perfect strangers. Quite admirable ::)
He wasn`t going to write Beethoven`s Ninth Symphony anyways.
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ok drudge is reporting a body was removed from a cabin, how was he killed by a sniper, but body removed from cabin, this story is all bullshit mainstream media lies, hes probably still out there, i dont believe one word that is reported on cable tv, its all lies.
i thought they said it was single gunshot heard inside the cabin
how did Chris manage to pull the tigger without his brain inside his skull from the Sniper shot
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To balance my distaste for Dorner's incompetence and poor target selection, I have to admit one thing I admire: Everyone has a shit list and everyone chickens out and doesn't do a damn thing about it when they get fucked over. Well he did something. Poorly, but he did something.
I don't think he did it poorly....not many options to battle the entire police force. He should have wrote a book about his experiences, made a blog, etc rather than carry out this mission.
He lost the battle...but he won the war. People are now going to look at the LAPD with a fine toothed comb due to their actions....things will change for the better. No longer will the LAPD be able to get away with shit so easily. Dorner shot innocent people...and so did the LAPD.
There are no "good guys" in this story
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He did it Curt Cobain style. Fuck him. He's gone now.
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I don't think he did it poorly....not many options to battle the entire police force. He should have wrote a book about his experiences, made a blog, etc rather than carry out this mission.
He lost the battle...but he won the war. People are now going to look at the LAPD with a fine toothed comb due to their actions....things will change for the better. No longer will the LAPD be able to get away with shit so easily. Dorner shot innocent people...and so did the LAPD.
There are no "good guys" in this story
Ya because everything changed after the Rodney King incident.
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Was that lone shot him (suicide)?
That's my guess
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There are NO "good guys" in this story.
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BOOOM!!!
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Dorner provided us all with some great real life drama. I was hoping it would continue.
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Ya because everything changed after the Rodney King incident.
Rodney King was a two bit criminal and crackhead.
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But by doing that he would have killed an innocent person while the true bad guys got away with corruption and continued killing and injuring innocent civilians, the very thing you are so against. Just admit it, you are happy for innocent people to continue to be murdered and nothing to be done about it. You prefer the status quo rather than doing something proactive.
Those people are still alive. Only a girl her fiancé and some random copare dead. World goes on and nothing changes. His mission failed.
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He wasn`t going to write Beethoven`s Ninth Symphony anyways.
have you seen his "manifesto" ?
i was thinking English was this baboon's second language after reading that rambling horseshit
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How many hours before the Presidents State of the Union did the cabin go up in flames?
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Those people are still alive. Only a girl her fiancé and some random copare dead. World goes on and nothing changes. His mission end failed.
His mission never failed. He punished a corrupt police force for their misdeeds, he inspired others to do the same and he gave corrupt individuals everywhere something to think about, He also exposed corruption and the need for it to be taken seriously. had he done nothing, then that would have been a mission failure.
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Rodney King was a two bit criminal and crackhead.
So that makes it ok for 20 cops to beat the shit out of him? I don't think so, we can and do expect more from these 'trained professionals' who are there to serve and protect.
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I don't think he did it poorly....not many options to battle the entire police force. He should have wrote a book about his experiences, made a blog, etc rather than carry out this mission.
He lost the battle...but he won the war. People are now going to look at the LAPD with a fine toothed comb due to their actions....things will change for the better. No longer will the LAPD be able to get away with shit so easily. Dorner shot innocent people...and so did the LAPD.
There are no "good guys" in this story
He didn't win shit. Nothing will change. Either in the way the LAPD runs or the world in general.
But I liked the part in his crazy ramblings where he talks about being totally fucked over and his mom gives him that trite crap about how bad things happen to good people. And he says, "Well I don't accept that." Fuckin' A right.
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His mission never failed. He punished a corrupt police force for their misdeeds, he inspired others to do the same and he gave corrupt individuals everywhere something to think about, He also exposed corruption and the need for it to be taken seriously. had he done nothing, then that would have been a mission failure.
Yeah, man. They're really shitting in their pants and upset over their "punishment".
As if they give a shit. ::)
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So that makes it ok for 20 cops to beat the shit out of him? I don't think so, we can and do expect more from these 'trained professionals' who are there to serve and protect.
Yes.
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ok drudge is reporting a body was removed from a cabin, how was he killed by a sniper, but body removed from cabin, this story is all bullshit mainstream media lies, hes probably still out there, i dont believe one word that is reported on cable tv, its all lies.
csoft hoping he's under csoft's bed, waiting to make sweet, sweaty love to csoft.
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Dormer wins. you cannot defeat someone who has nothing to lose.
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He didn't win shit. Nothing will change. Either in the way the LAPD runs or the world in general.
But I liked the part in his crazy ramblings where he talks about being totally fucked over and his mom gives him that trite crap about how bad things happen to good people. And he says, "Well I don't accept that." Fuckin' A right.
Those people are still alive. Only a girl her fiancé and some random copare dead. World goes on and nothing changes. His mission failed.
Tell that to LAPD Mr. Randy Quan who lost his beloved daughter because he took Officer Teresa (chupacabra) side over Chris during the Hearing that caused him to be fired
Im sure Mr Quan would agree its a total failure on dorners part
or the other 2 police officers that will have funerals coming up after Dorner had warned anyone in his manifesto if they got involved they too would be killed
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have you seen his "manifesto" ?
i was thinking English was this baboon's second language after reading that rambling horseshit
I think it made him more endearing and was somewhat unsuspecting.
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. Dorner decided against that.
There is a Dorner on every street corner in every neighborhood.
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they should have a public showing of his body....i'd drive to LA to piss in his mouth
great news that he was killed by a sniper. as soon as he faced a prepared opponent with equal firepower, the fat negro turned into a dead fat negro.
I knew it couldn't last. You get a hard cock when black people are killed.
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What I'm referring to is the desire by many to rationalize dormers killings as some kind of restitution for past crimes committed by the police. This seems to be what Dorner intended to do.
Yes, and just as many are using Dorner's actions to justify the outrageous behavior of the police.
Funny how innocent people always seem to get stuck between two ridiculous extremes.
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Dormer wins. you cannot defeat someone who has nothing to lose.
He had his life to lose and he lost it. Fuck him, he lost
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I knew it couldn't last. You get a hard cock when black people are killed.
I get a hard on when sniveling cowards who shoot innocent people in cold blood are killed.
LOL @ the cock biting homos here who think he "proved" something...he proved that if you point a machine gun at someone and pull the trigger you can kill them. what a hero.
The LAPD will roll right on doing what they do, there will be no fallout from this...they are a fine example of integrity and bravery in the face of this maniac. If this moron had ANY valid complaints...he shot himself in the foot (pun intended) the minute he started killing innocent people
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We all die. So we all lose.
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I get a hard on when sniveling cowards who shoot innocent people in cold blood are killed.
LOL @ the cock biting homos here who think he "proved" something...he proved that if you point a machine gun at someone and pull the trigger you can kill them. what a hero.
The LAPD will roll right on doing what they do, there will be no fallout from this...they are a fine example of integrity and bravery in the face of this maniac. If this moron had ANY valid complaints...he shot himself in the foot (pun intended) the minute he started killing innocent people
::) oh please..
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LAPD press conf just now ,
"there is no body, the cabin is still burning way to hot for anyone to go in there, we are not sure if there is a body in there or not, it will take weeks to identify a body after this kind of fire"
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LAPD press conf just now ,
"there is no body, the cabin is still burning way to hot for anyone to go in there, we are not sure if there is a body in there or not, it will take weeks to identify a body after this kind of fire"
Seriously? Fuckin' American media.
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Lapd is wrong or lying. They have his body. But can't positively ID yet. It's him he's dead I'm happy
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Lapd is wrong or lying. They have his body. But can't positively ID yet. It's him he's dead I'm happy
i do not understand???
you mean the Manifesto chris wrote about regarding the LAPD lying to the public is in fact true then ???
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Did read that thing. Did he say that the Lapd lied to the public or lied about him?
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the only person Confirmed dead today is a San Bernardino deputy
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I get a hard on when sniveling cowards who shoot innocent people in cold blood are killed.
LOL @ the cock biting homos here who think he "proved" something...he proved that if you point a machine gun at someone and pull the trigger you can kill them. what a hero.
The LAPD will roll right on doing what they do, there will be no fallout from this...they are a fine example of integrity and bravery in the face of this maniac. If this moron had ANY valid complaints...he shot himself in the foot (pun intended) the minute he started killing innocent people
Shooting up two women in a blue pickup truck that did not resemble Dorner`s in the least is hardly brave. Neither is shooting up a man in a Honda Ridgeline after being rammed by a police car despite being pulled over minutes earlier by a different police car on his way to go surfing- hardly resembling Dorner in any way.
All of that On top of the complete overreaction of thousands of law enforcement over the actions of one man. They didn`t display anything but inadequacy, hysteria and stupidity.
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Shooting up two women in a blue pickup truck that did not resemble Dorner`s in the least is hardly brave. Neither is shooting up a man in a Honda Ridgeline after being rammed by a police car despite being pulled over minutes earlier by a different police car on his way to go surfing- hardly resembling Dorner in any way.
All of that On top of the complete overreaction of thousands of law enforcement over the actions of one man. They didn`t display anything but inadequacy, hysteria and stupidity.
THIS.
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Shooting up two women in a blue pickup truck that did not resemble Dorner`s in the least is hardly brave. Neither is shooting up a man in a Honda Ridgeline after being rammed by a police car despite being pulled over minutes earlier by a different police car on his way to go surfing- hardly resembling Dorner in any way.
BOOOM!!!
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Dormer wins. you cannot defeat someone who has nothing to lose.
sure you can, you blow their fucking brains out.
he's now worm food. there will be no reform in the LAPD, and he will be forgotten. yes this human walking piece of shit coward took out some innocent people, that can't be prevented. he will be remebered as the fat negro "mastermind" who couldn't overcome his car breaking down, and he had five years to plan....LOLOLOL
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Ok latest update.
At the press conference, they said there was a body found but that is INCORRECT. No body has been found and Dorner is still alive.
The cabin hasn't even been entered yet as it is too hot and dangerously unstable
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I get a hard on when sniveling cowards who shoot innocent people in cold blood are killed.
LOL @ the cock biting homos here who think he "proved" something...he proved that if you point a machine gun at someone and pull the trigger you can kill them. what a hero.
The LAPD will roll right on doing what they do, there will be no fallout from this...they are a fine example of integrity and bravery in the face of this maniac. If this moron had ANY valid complaints...he shot himself in the foot (pun intended) the minute he started killing innocent people
Agreed.
The LAPD survived OJ Simpson, Rodney King, Tupac Shakur, and they will survive Chris Dorner.
Americans have a 15 minute attention span, this will be forgotten in a week.
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Did read that thing. Did he say that the Lapd lied to the public or lied about him?
he said both.
he said cops are pieces of shits
when you die , they snap a picture of you and pass it around themselves on their cellphones to bag about who had the best death photo
case in point
18yr Nicole Catsouras , a photo of her ended up on the internet by CHP, family sued and won , VERY GRAPHIC pic of her car accident
(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/Nicole-Nikki-Catsouras.jpg)
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/16327d1202874408-nicole-catsouras-nikki-lost-control-porsche-hits-toll-booth-gory-pictures-6.jpg (http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/16327d1202874408-nicole-catsouras-nikki-lost-control-porsche-hits-toll-booth-gory-pictures-6.jpg)
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The LAPD survived OJ Simpson, Rodney King, Tupac Shakur, and they will survive Chris Dorner.
Americans have a 15 minute attention span, this will be forgotten in a week.
Sadly ^
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This is the banner at the top of the CNN Breaking News right now:
No body found in cabin where shootout occurred with police hunting fugitive ex-cop, LAPD say, contradicting reports.
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http://myurbanhangout.com/showthread.php?t=19373
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This is the banner at the top of the CNN Breaking News right now:
No body found in cabin where shootout occurred with police hunting fugitive ex-cop, LAPD say, contradicting reports.
Jesus Christ... they were so quick to tell everyone that it's over, they got their man... Fucking media here.
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The house is still burning so no body has yet been found. Fuck, why is getbig fucking up so bad this night.
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thanks adonis, just as i stated, this was all dog and pony show, bro your report is great
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http://myurbanhangout.com/showthread.php?t=19373
cops thought it was ok to plaster this poor girls photos all over the internet
yet they DEMAND respect ::)
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Agreed.
The LAPD survived OJ Simpson, Rodney King, Tupac Shakur, and they will survive Chris Dorner.
Americans have a 15 minute attention span, this will be forgotten in a week.
True...The only people who will keep it going if they want is the Hierarchy's media...And the way the government can do this is by setting off explosives over the next few days/weeks and blaming it on the negro. They can say he set up explosives with timer on them. That can keep the fear, doom and gloom going.
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Horrible that they play like they did with this poor dead girl. Horrible.
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Horrible that they play like they did with this poor dead girl. Horrible.
Fuck the LAPD.
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THE DARK NIGHT RISES
TONIGHT
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Fuck the LAPD.
Rodney King agrees ;D ;D ;D
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audio of police saying "burn this fucking house down."
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He is dead, burned like a crispy black potato chip. Deal with it you criminal nutr huggers. Go find a new women killer to idolize
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audio of police saying "burn this fucking house down."
what a shitty excuse for peace officers, Ordering to Burn man to death , yea that real courageous they should get medals for that ::)
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Maybe the shoulda asked "pretty please" first
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He is dead, burned like a crispy black potato chip. Deal with it you criminal nutr huggers. Go find a new women killer to idolize
What happened to the couple he took histage?
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What happened to the couple he took histage?
No bodies confirmed yet.
Fuck the American media.
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What happened to the couple he took histage?
Let them go long before shoot out
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Maybe the shoulda asked "pretty please" first
so you are saying that from now on, any hostage situation will now be handled by Burning the building down within 4 hours and anyone inside will be burned to death
great police work, why even give them guns anymore, might as well just have them carry molital cocktails instead
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so you are saying that from now on, any hostage situation will now be handled by Burning the building down within 4 hours and anyone inside will be burned to death
great police work, why even give them guns anymore, might as well just have them carry molital cocktails instead
It wasn't a hostage situation. The hostages were let go hours and many miles before this happened. Try again
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Let them go long before shoot out
so your saying he didn't want to kill innocent people then or use them as hostage meat ... interesting development
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what a shitty excuse for peace officers, Ordering to Burn man to death , yea that real courageous they should get medals for that ::)
i hope he suffered horrilbly and they laughed as he screamed in agonzing pain
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It wasn't a hostage situation. The hostages were let go hours and many miles before this happened. Try again
was this confirmed??? how do they absolutely know for sure that nobody else was in there besides Dorner if they did not have eyes in the cabin or a negotiator on the phone with him before they burned the cabin down ??? ???
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so your saying he didn't want to kill innocent people then or use them as hostage meat ... interesting development
He stole a car from a couple of ladies and tied them up to get thier car. No human shields, nobodies even saying that
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was this confirmed??? how do they absolutely sure that nobody else was in there besides Dorner if they did not have eyes in the cabin or a negotiator on the phone with him before they burned the cabin down ??? ???
Yeah it was 100% certain because the cabin was made of glass and there was a 'hostage free' sticker on the front door
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lol. burn this mutherfucker. LAPD sort of lost its head over this dude.
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Yeah it was 100% certain because the cabin was made of glass and there was a 'hostage free' sticker on the front door
sounds like more Mistaking Blue Toyotas for Gray Nissans
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Why is The Cointel Proman/Abdominal Snoman avoiding this thread?
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Why is The Cointel Proman/Abdominal Snoman avoiding this thread?
he is bombarded with CIA intel ... give him time
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I won't rest comfortable until I know Wiggs is safely at home eating Doritos.
Wiggs, post up and let us know your okay - or I will report a Chris Dorner sighting in Las Vegas.
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i hope he suffered horrilbly and they laughed as he screamed in agonzing pain
it doesnt matter how much they laughed, the damage has been done and the people he sought out to kill are dead. they cant be brought back.
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he said both.
he said cops are pieces of shits
when you die , they snap a picture of you and pass it around themselves on their cellphones to bag about who had the best death photo
case in point
18yr Nicole Catsouras , a photo of her ended up on the internet by CHP, family sued and won , VERY GRAPHIC pic of her car accident
(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/Nicole-Nikki-Catsouras.jpg)
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/16327d1202874408-nicole-catsouras-nikki-lost-control-porsche-hits-toll-booth-gory-pictures-6.jpg (http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/16327d1202874408-nicole-catsouras-nikki-lost-control-porsche-hits-toll-booth-gory-pictures-6.jpg)
That's what she gets for stupid parents buying an 18 year old a porsche
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The Wiki has now been changed to read alive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Jordan_Dorner
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That's what she gets for stupid parents buying an 18 year old a porsche
It was her dads car not hers
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"Burn this MFing house down...."
LOL... WOW.... so much for "the smoke device accidentally set the ammo on fire"
The place is completely engulfed. they torched it.
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adonis is he alive, on cnn it says no body was in the cabin, like i said this was all dog and pony show to appease the people who believe everything on tv, sad deal when the media tries to save face but always reporting made up lies
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adonis is he alive, on cnn it says no body was in the cabin, like i said this was all dog and pony show to appease the people who believe everything on tv, sad deal when the media tries to save face but always reporting made up lies
They are doing this so he will poke his head out in Mexico and catch im
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It was her dads car not hers
Okay I see just read the article
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adonis whats the latest call on it, is dorner alive
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"Burner is deployed and we have a fire"
LOL @ "The cabin caught fire after police detonated smoke devices inside the cabin, a law enforcement source told CNN."
Serious Q... what is the legal procedure on intentionally starting a fire when a person is holed up?
Is the "Smoke em out!" strategy a legal one?
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Someone lost a cabin.
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so the cali police have had free passage to do everything and anything here? ôn whos say so? they have the entire judge fraternity taking in up behind cause he killed 'one of their own'.
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I think this will be a huge legal issue.
We have that audio tape now... We know the burn was a coordinated thing. They didn't choose tear gas or waiting it out or flash bangs or knockout gas or any other means. They lit the MFer on fire. They didn't know who else was in there. They just pretty much burned a person to death (or forced his suicide).
Can any of the legal minds here - lawyers, law enforcement, whoever - speak on the legality of burning a home with someone inside if they won't come out? "Smoke em out"? I'm not defending Dorner in any way - but burning a house - is that legal?
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If it's not legal, Obama will make it legal.
I think this will be a huge legal issue.
We have that audio tape now... We know the burn was a coordinated thing. They didn't choose tear gas or waiting it out or flash bangs or knockout gas or any other means. They lit the MFer on fire. They didn't know who else was in there. They just pretty much burned a person to death (or forced his suicide).
Can any of the legal minds here - lawyers, law enforcement, whoever - speak on the legality of burning a home with someone inside if they won't come out? "Smoke em out"? I'm not defending Dorner in any way - but burning a house - is that legal?
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Someone lost a cabin.
Wasn't even Dorners cabin? :D
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It is a violation of the Geneva convention to use flame weapons against a civilian. It is murder to have a police officer do it intentionally to murder the occupant.
Pretty funny... Dorner's goal was to expose how evil and lawbreaking the law enforcers were. He did that with his death. They ordered him to be burned alive. It's all over national news now. Someone ordered the use of the "burner".
Reminds me of the end of the movie with clint eastwood, Gran Torino.
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Haven't checked this out myself, could be wrong...
1:00 "alright we're ugh we're going go ahead with the plan with the burn"
1:17 "the one that ugh we talked about"
1:27 "seven of the burners deployed and we have a fire"
CAUGHT RED FUCKING HANDED! this is unbelievable! Looks like the police department has illegally burned this man alive
EVERYONE PLEASE WATCH!
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LAPD
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Hey E-Kul, Alex Jones just called you a coward ;D
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LAPD
Angelenos don't need guns, the LAPD has their back.
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they havent comfirmed him yet though right?
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"burn guy"
"police officers understandably upset..."
I'm content he was executed. They burned him alive
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"burn guy"
"police officers understandably upset..."
Yes, I wonder if they would use that language if a regular guy did that to someone who had killed a family member. NOT.
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Yeah, man. They're really shitting in their pants and upset over their "punishment".
As if they give a shit. ::)
They seemed pretty concerned and to be shitting their pants when Police were getting gunned down and killed. I am sure the grieving families of the slain police officers are upset over their punishment.
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I get a hard on when sniveling cowards who shoot innocent people in cold blood are killed except when the Police do it, the police have Integrity and are good righteous people and if they kill someone the dead person must have deserved it.
The LAPD will roll right on doing what they do (fucking over whoever they want), there will be no fallout from this...they are a fine example of integrity and bravery in the face of this maniac (by the way, overreacting like hysterical emotional bitches and shooting at innocent civilians is my idea of integrity and being brave, also, I love the Police, I once sucked a Senior Sergeants cock and loved it). If this moron had ANY valid complaints...he shot himself in the foot (pun intended) the minute he started killing innocent people. (because we all know their are other Valid ways to deal with corrupt cops and fucking people over ;))
WTF!
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i hope he suffered horrilbly and they laughed as he screamed in agonzing pain
Yeah, That should teach him for doing the right thing and speaking out against corruption and the relentless fucking over of innocent people. Long Live Corruption, Long Live the Police murdering innocent civilians. American police Fucking people over - FUCK YEAH! Your crazy if you think the LAPD give a flying fuck about some innocent citizens losing their lives, they murdered Dorner because he killed cops and crossed the Blue Line. Even if he never killed anybody but continued to be a whistle-blower and speak out he would have been a target to be murdered by the LAPD.
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Why is it that every pic of Dorner, he is smiling? Like dude never took a bad pic, or there was an off angle pic of him---just that big ass smile all the time.
Granted, smiling during pics doesn't mean one is happy, and that a person can always pull a smile, but I wonder where are the 'brooding' pics or ones of him not smiling? Are these pics that are shown carefully picked pictures, just like how the first pics of trayvon martin shown were of him as a child?
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I think this will be a huge legal issue.
We have that audio tape now... We know the burn was a coordinated thing. They didn't choose tear gas or waiting it out or flash bangs or knockout gas or any other means. They lit the MFer on fire. They didn't know who else was in there. They just pretty much burned a person to death (or forced his suicide).
Can any of the legal minds here - lawyers, law enforcement, whoever - speak on the legality of burning a home with someone inside if they won't come out? "Smoke em out"? I'm not defending Dorner in any way - but burning a house - is that legal?
I think this will fall under "accidentally, on purpose" and will fade from memory without much bother. Burner is probably in reference to the smoke or tear gas used. For years, even before Waco, Law Enforcement knows and understands that certain types produce a decent amount of flame while working(bit less that a minute or so of active flame). They shot seven in and probably understood that a fire would result in the back of their mind.
They've got an out by saying that ammo was going off, perhaps propane tanks going off, dangerous suspect, etc....
Nothing will happen but a few internal reviews, twitter outrage, etc....
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I think this will fall under "accidentally, on purpose" and will fade from memory without much bother. Burner is probably in reference to the smoke or tear gas used. For years, even before Waco, Law Enforcement knows and understands that certain types produce a decent amount of flame while working(bit less that a minute or so of active flame). They shot seven in and probably understood that a fire would result in the back of their mind.
They've got an out by saying that ammo was going off, perhaps propane tanks going off, dangerous suspect, etc....
Nothing will happen but a few internal reviews, twitter outrage, etc....
Police have been murdering whoever they want and getting away with it for decades, it was this lack of accountability Dorner was fighting against. Unfortunately, too many sit on the sidelines and cheer the Police on as if they are a Force for Goodness and Righteousness rather than seeing them for what they gave become. The Worlds most highly organised criminal organisation.
Amazing what you can do with propaganda, the Mexican Drug cartels have public relations managers, They pay off or threaten popular musicians to immortalise them in song and make legends of drug lords, they also pay off or threaten journalists and make them write positive stories about them, They have even purchased several newspapers and recruited reporters within which they can control, also, out of fear now the United States’ reporters have stopped covering the drug war and cartel violence as well. U.S. news directors and editors discourage their reporters to cover certain drug related stories. And just like the police, if you cross the Cartels, they will hunt you down and kill you.
The cartels have had to adjust to the challenges in dominating the information environment in a time when the internet and advanced computer networks have been used against them. Some cartels have “hired operational security specialist (narcohackers) to cope with the enhanced digital surveillance of their activities. As websites or social media have attempted to shine light on their activities, the cartels respond by threatening execution found on their social post or tweets. They also have been using websites to spread disinformation about their rivals and government officials.
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I think this will be a huge legal issue.
We have that audio tape now... We know the burn was a coordinated thing. They didn't choose tear gas or waiting it out or flash bangs or knockout gas or any other means. They lit the MFer on fire. They didn't know who else was in there. They just pretty much burned a person to death (or forced his suicide).
Can any of the legal minds here - lawyers, law enforcement, whoever - speak on the legality of burning a home with someone inside if they won't come out? "Smoke em out"? I'm not defending Dorner in any way - but burning a house - is that legal?
I didn't hear Obama say anything bad about burning people to death in the State of the Union.
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Police have been murdering whoever they want and getting away with it for decades, it was this lack of accountability Dorner was fighting against. Unfortunately, too many sit on the sidelines and cheer the Police on as if they are a Force for Goodness and Righteousness rather than seeing them for what they gave become. The Worlds most highly organised criminal organisation.
Amazing what you can do with propaganda, the Mexican Drug cartels have public relations managers, They pay off or threaten popular musicians to immortalise them in song and make legends of drug lords, they also pay off or threaten journalists and make them write positive stories about them, They have even purchased several newspapers and recruited reporters within which they can control, also, out of fear now the United States’ reporters have stopped covering the drug war and cartel violence as well. U.S. news directors and editors discourage their reporters to cover certain drug related stories. And just like the police, if you cross the Cartels, they will hunt you down and kill you.
The cartels have had to adjust to the challenges in dominating the information environment in a time when the internet and advanced computer networks have been used against them. Some cartels have “hired operational security specialist (narcohackers) to cope with the enhanced digital surveillance of their activities. As websites or social media have attempted to shine light on their activities, the cartels respond by threatening execution found on their social post or tweets. They also have been using websites to spread disinformation about their rivals and government officials.
Here's a hint:
No one gives a flying fuck what you think.
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Here's a hint:
No one gives a flying fuck what you think.
what size rear tire is that in your avatar. And what bike do you have?
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Wah Wah Wah, he ambushed innocent people and chose to stay in a burning buildind. He died a martyr for the stupid. Congrats buddy,
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what size rear tire is that in your avatar. And what bike do you have?
I have a couple different bikes. The tire looks like a 190 Dunlop, it's not a tire from one of my bikes, it was just an unusual picture of cold tearing on a tire and I liked it.
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Here's a hint:
No one gives a flying fuck what you think.
You cared enough to reply. Thanks for sharing :-*
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Why is it that every pic of Dorner, he is smiling? Like dude never took a bad pic, or there was an off angle pic of him---just that big ass smile all the time.
Granted, smiling during pics doesn't mean one is happy, and that a person can always pull a smile, but I wonder where are the 'brooding' pics or ones of him not smiling? Are these pics that are shown carefully picked pictures, just like how the first pics of trayvon martin shown were of him as a child?
Good Observation.....he portrayed this Big, smiley dude with a Great personality. I have seen people like that in the work palce, but deep down inside, they're the most disgruntled and even dangerous and that's the danger.....most people who knew him did not expect this to happen
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You cared enough to reply. Thanks for sharing :-*
Shouldn't you be off perving on your "partners" 18 year old daughter?
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Shouldn't you be off perving on your "partners" 18 year old daughter?
Sound Jealous Bro. Does your homosexually prevent you from enjoying the sight of an attractive young woman. Good to see you paying close attention to my posts. I bet you cut and paste everything I say and have your own little profile on me fuelled by massive getbigger butthurt.
lol how sad ???
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I have a couple different bikes. The tire looks like a 190 Dunlop, it's not a tire from one of my bikes, it was just an unusual picture of cold tearing on a tire and I liked it.
ok, I always wondered...every time I see your avatar
Good Observation.....he portrayed this Big, smiley dude with a Great personality. I have seen people like that in the work palce, but deep down inside, they're the most disgruntled and even dangerous and that's the danger.....most people who knew him did not expect this to happen
I had noticed it, every pic you see, is that big smile--yet dude went off and tried to take on the LAPD...Happy people don't do that, even if they lost their jobs...
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Sound Jealous Bro. Does your homosexually prevent you from enjoying the sight of an attractive young woman. Good to see you paying close attention to my posts. I bet you cut and paste everything I say and have your own little profile on me fuelled by massive getbigger butthurt.
lol how sad ???
E-Fag, you're English, so you're inferior to me right from birth.
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Is this how SoCal police bring people to justice??
Sounds more like gang member Style justice
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So is it verified that he got burned?
Did he manage to kill a few more pigs before he got toasted?
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Is this how SoCal police bring people to justice??
Sounds more like gang member Style justice
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02178/tibet-2_2178371b.jpg)
He could have walked out anytime he wanted
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02178/tibet-2_2178371b.jpg)
He could have walked out anytime he wanted
What? He is already outside.
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This story doesn't make sense. Why the fuck was he riding in a car in midday sunshine? Spotting a big bald black guy at a ski resort is pretty simple. You'd think he'd only be out at night. The guy was kind of stupid.
Also why the fuck did he flee San Diego to Big Bear where he would be trapped? Dumb moves
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God rest his valiant soul. This man is a modern day Hero and Martyr.
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He could have walked out anytime he wanted
This.
That being said hopefully the Police are pissing on his corpse right now, putting dildos in his mouth and taking pictures. kicking his head "accidentally", beating his dead charred corpse with hammers and stabbing it with knives. That's what i would do if i were there.
PS Dorner was throwing Flash-bangs and tear gas grenades too. they will NEVER pin intentionally burning him to death on those fine police officers......LOLOLOL. :D
Christopher Dorner = dead fat coward, burned to death like a fat pig in a barbecue, with a spit up his ass, as he screamed and begged for mercy.
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"Burn this MFing house down...."
LOL... WOW.... so much for "the smoke device accidentally set the ammo on fire"
The place is completely engulfed. they torched it.
So much for the process he was owed.
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So much for the process he was owed.
I won't pretend to KNOW shit...but the fact is we don't know who was saying that, when and what capacity they were in....it could very well be a pissed off police officer that wanted to see him burn to death, and who could blame him?
there is no way to prove that they were intentionally trying to do that, they will say it was emotional chatter in the heat of battle and no one on earth can prove otherwise...tear gas is a common practice.
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Wah Wah Wah, he ambushed innocent people and chose to stay in a burning buildind. He died a martyr for the stupid. Congrats buddy,
There were several reports saying that he attempted to emerge, and was forced back into the fire.
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There were several reports saying that he attempted to emerge, and was forced back into the fire.
From the media. Automatically we should be skeptical.
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I'm sure Dorner had an underground tunnel out of there.
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I won't pretend to KNOW shit...but the fact is we don't know who was saying that, when and what capacity they were in....it could very well be a pissed off police officer that wanted to see him burn to death, and who could blame him?
there is no way to prove that they were intentionally trying to do that, they will say it was emotional chatter in the heat of battle and no one on earth can prove otherwise...tear gas is a common practice.
I would blame him for remaining in the police force. A person can't have it both ways, where he will purport to uphold the law, while at the same time being perfectly inclined to subvert the law. It is at the absolute center of the problem we have with our police forces.
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there is no way to prove that they were intentionally trying to do that,
I dunno... I listened to that audio.. sounded a lot like a coordinated effort to set fire to the cabin, corner by corner. Then it sounds like they kept the firefighters away intentionally. I find it hard to reach any other outcome than they intentionally lit a fire, then let it burn with a human inside.
I'm not defending Dorner. He killed innocents and deserved death penalty. He never would have seen the needle in California. I have cops in my family. I knew from minute one, he could emerge naked with hands in air, and he'd be going home in a box.
Still, police take an oath to be ABOVE the emotion. To me, it sounds a lot like they violated Geneva convention in this case. True, nobody deserved it more than Dorner for killing innocents. Still, once this is okay'd, and we can "smoke out" 1 dude, then we give Obama the ability to firebomb a million dudes.
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From the media. Automatically we should be skeptical.
I would be skeptical if it's not pursued. A person should want to know exactly HOW this idea was put out there.
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There were several reports saying that he attempted to emerge, and was forced back into the fire.
A sniper killed him
they were tearing down the house with a bulldozer and he shot himself
he escaped in a car and was SEEN on camera going 120 mph down the mountain.. ::)
Timeline and facts are sketchy at best.
I heard they "pushed him back inside" three hours before the fire...in the initial firefight
then I heard it again as the house caught on fire..same words..."pushed him back inside"...the shit is all garbled at this point.
do i think that they accidentally on purpose let him burn to death? absolutely.
do i give a fuck?....nope.
I do wish he would have lived so the father of the innocent girl he murdered could be the one that put a bullet in his brain .
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I dunno... I listened to that audio.. sounded a lot like a coordinated effort to set fire to the cabin, corner by corner. Then it sounds like they kept the firefighters away intentionally. I find it hard to reach any other outcome than they intentionally lit a fire, then let it burn with a human inside.
I'm not defending Dorner. He killed innocents and deserved death penalty. He never would have seen the needle in California. I have cops in my family. I knew from minute one, he could emerge naked with hands in air, and he'd be going home in a box.
Still, police take an oath to be ABOVE the emotion. To me, it sounds a lot like they violated Geneva convention in this case. True, nobody deserved it more than Dorner for killing innocents. Still, once this is okay'd, and we can "smoke out" 1 dude, then we give Obama the ability to firebomb a million dudes.
I think so too. but he was throwing grenades too. and using tear gas is allowed. There are so many "outs" in the story it's not funny...and good luck getting these guys to admit it was intentional in a hearing, that's all I'm saying.
like i said, you can't judge a person's intent by hearing them talk, just off the top off my head, here's an excuse..."burn it down" is police jargon for shoot tear gas canisters....I heard tape of a cop saying "burn the gas, burn the gas"...BINGO...excuse.
there's no way ths goes any further than it is right now, CNN and internet chatter.
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there's no way ths goes any further than it is right now, CNN and internet chatter.
I think there will be lawsuits. From somebody. From the ACLU maybe. yes, Dorner deseved it, yes. But a lot of child molesters deserved to be sodomized with a fiebrand in Times Square. Still, law enforcement cannot do that.
Those angry yelling quotes (on the :53 clip) are bad, but the step-by-step of torching the place wall by wall - with the female dispatcher repeating each step of it - there's no misinterpreting it. it was a planned and sequential torching of a building with a human inside. Even if justified, these guys are gonna be getting lawyers. SOMEONE will sue on his behalf.
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I think so too. but he was throwing grenades too. and using tear gas is allowed. There are so many "outs" in the story it's not funny...and good luck getting these guys to admit it was intentional in a hearing, that's all I'm saying.
like i said, you can't judge a person's intent by hearing them talk, just off the top off my head, here's an excuse..."burn it down" is police jargon for shoot tear gas canisters....I heard tape of a cop saying "burn the gas, burn the gas"...BINGO...excuse.
there's no way ths goes any further than it is right now, CNN and internet chatter.
Good to see a murder of a man by fire bring out Groinks compassionate side. Groink sounds like the kind of man who is on the edge, would you trust the mental stability of someone who would enjoy pissing in the mouths of a dead corpse, putting dildos in a corpses mouth and taking pictures. kicking his lifeless head, beating his dead charred corpse with hammers and stabbing it with knives. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if groink checked out via a vigilante style mass murder. His lunatic rants are no different than the same ideas Dorner expressed in his manifesto at perceived injustices. I would go as far to say they are very very similar personality types, both are deeply narcissistic, both have a strict sense of morality, both believe in taking vengence on those that violate that code, both believe that murder is acceptable for a cause, and both have big guns. ;D
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do i think that they accidentally on purpose let him burn to death? absolutely.
do i give a fuck?....nope.
So is it that you don't care he burned to death, or is it that you don't care about potential subversion of law by those who have sworn to uphold the law?
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Are you sure it was his body the found and not some other black outlaw with a gun?
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So much for the process he was owed.
Sometimes people make decisions that don't allow the process to take place. It appears that's what he did.
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Good to see a murder of a man by fire bring out Groinks compassionate side. Groink sounds like the kind of man who is on the edge, would you trust the mental stability of someone who would enjoy pissing in the mouths of a dead corpse, putting dildos in a corpses mouth and taking pictures. kicking his lifeless head, beating his dead charred corpse with hammers and stabbing it with knives. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if groink checked out via a vigilante style mass murder. His lunatic rants are no different than the same ideas Dorner expressed in his manifesto and perceived injustices. I would go as far to say they are very very similar personality types, both are deeply narcissistic, both have a strict sense of morality, both believe in taking vengence on those that violate that code, both believe that murder is acceptable for a cause, and both have big guns. ;D
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What do you know of compassion. You rant in post after post in a blood thirsty rage, intoxicated by the carnage. You've shown zero compassion for the innocent victim killed by dorner. Don't lecture anybody about justice or compassion.
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What do you know of compassion. You rant in post after post in a blood thirsty rage, intoxicated by the carnage. You've shown zero compassion for the innocent victim killed by dorner. Don't lecture anybody about justice or compassion.
I have shown compassion to the young lady brutally gunned down, and I have expressed the appropriate outrage at her father who is responsible for her death. He should be deeply ashamed of the choices he has made and the price his family has had to pay for it. If this man took his family into the wild knowingly provoked a pack of Lions and they attacked and killed his daughter, would you seriously blame the lions. Your outrage is misplaced, Dorner may have shot that mans daughter, but the Father gave him the Gun.
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I have shown compassion to the young lady brutally gunned down, and I have expressed the appropriate outrage at her father who is responsible for her death. He should be deeply ashamed of the choices he has made and the price his family has had to pay for it. If this man took his family into the wild knowingly provoked a pack of Lions and they attacked and killed his daughter, would you seriously blame the lions. Your outrage is misplaced, Dorner may have killed that mans daughter, but the Father gave him the Gun.
What a load of garbage. A silly argument by an infantile intellect. You're trying, and failing, to rationalize your own blood thirsty nature. You think like a terrorist.
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Sometimes people make decisions that don't allow the process to take place. It appears that's what he did.
How so?
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Yes, it was the fathers bloodthirsty nature that killed the daughter
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I think there will be lawsuits. From somebody. From the ACLU maybe. yes, Dorner deseved it, yes. But a lot of child molesters deserved to be sodomized with a fiebrand in Times Square. Still, law enforcement cannot do that.
Those angry yelling quotes (on the :53 clip) are bad, but the step-by-step of torching the place wall by wall - with the female dispatcher repeating each step of it - there's no misinterpreting it. it was a planned and sequential torching of a building with a human inside. Even if justified, these guys are gonna be getting lawyers. SOMEONE will sue on his behalf.
I don't know...if that's a protocol used in trying to get an uncooperative, violent suspect to surrender, then as much as people don't like it...oh well if he was too stupid to face facts and surrender.
Just using common sense, and i could be wrong here...but i don't see the police department being so stupid as to commit such an overt, stupid and unsanctioned act when it knows full well that there is national media covering their every move....time will tell.
everything is premature at this point. we don't know what happened on the ground in real time...we have snippets of dialogue here and there taken out of context.
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LAPD wanted him Dead DEAD DEAD
they did not want this whistle blower on the stand and needing the LAPD to open files and have all these dirty cops on the stand
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it could very well be a pissed off police officer that wanted to see him burn to death, and who could blame him?
The audio shows two men enacting a burning plan they had discussed earlier, with a woman dispatcher repeating every detail.
I bet ALL the cops were pissed off. But in the middle of a standoff firefight, one "rogue" cop doesn't locate a flamethrower and just start cooking the place. this very much appears to be an action which was organized and thus needed approval from somebody.
I'm fine with dude getting wasted. I'm not fine with a few policeman telling the media to step back 5 miles, then coordinating an effort to burn a human being alive. Cause once it's okay once, it's okay to burn cities full of people.
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Yes, it was the fathers bloodthirsty nature that killed the daughter
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Yeah, by trying to defend the guy.
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What a load of garbage. A silly argument by an infantile intellect. You're trying, and failing, to rationalize your own blood thirsty nature. You think like a terrorist.
I think like a terrorist!. That's rich. You openly supported a corrupt Police Force, that routinely brings suffering and death to innocent people, you cheered as a man was murdered by the law and burnt to death without trial and in violation of the Geneva Convention, you ignored the Police as they shot at and seriously injured innocent citizens in pursuit of this man, you have openly shown support to a corrupt man who exposed his family too danger that resulted in his daughter being murdered. And you routinely attempt to make light of Pitbull attack that has seen not only myself seriously injured but many innocent children brutally maimed, mauled and killed every year. If you are the model of compassion and all things righteous, I will pass Thanks.
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I think like a terrorist!. That's rich. You openly supported a corrupt Police Force, that routinely brings suffering and death to innocent people, you cheered as a man was murdered by the law and burnt to death without trial and in violation of the Geneva Convention, you ignored the Police as they shot at and seriously injured innocent citizens in pursuit of this man, you have openly shown support to a corrupt man who exposed his family too danger that resulted in his daughter being murdered. And you routinely attempt to make light of Pitbull attack that has seen not only myself seriously injured but many innocent children brutally maimed, mauled and killed every year. If you are the model of compassion and all things righteous, I will pass Thanks.
You're making shit up again, dimwit. Never supported police misconduct. However, you clearly condone killing innocents.
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Why is The Cointel Proman/Abdominal Snoman avoiding this thread?
lol. I'm leaning toward this whole thing being some kind of exercise. "They" use a narcissistic weak minded guy(one of their own) and brainwash him until he snaps. Then they see how their front line reacts to it and how the public reacts to their front lines tactics. They then adjust their manuals accordingly.
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Yeah, by trying to defend the guy.
Here we go, the sociopaths are about to start their "let's defend the corrupt Cops who murder innocent people all the time and get away with it" campaign
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lol. I'm leaning toward this whole thing being some kind of exercise. "They" use a narcissistic weak minded guy(one of their own) and brainwash him until he snaps. Then they see how their front line reacts to it and how the public reacts to their front lines tactics. They then adjust their manuals accordingly.
Military Style War tactics used on Civilians and Civilian property
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Here we go, the sociopaths are about to start their "let's defend the corrupt Cops who murder innocent people all the time and get away with it" campaign
He was defending dorner. It's a fact, dimwit. Trying using them.
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The audio shows two men enacting a burning plan they had discussed earlier, with a woman dispatcher repeating every detail.
I bet ALL the cops were pissed off. But in the middle of a standoff firefight, one "rogue" cop doesn't locate a flamethrower and just start cooking the place. this very much appears to be an action which was organized and thus needed approval from somebody.I'm fine with dude getting wasted. I'm not fine with a few policeman telling the media to step back 5 miles, then coordinating an effort to burn a human being alive. Cause once it's okay once, it's okay to burn cities full of people.
exactly....my opinion is they knew full well they were within their rights to do so becuase of this very fact. I doubt some commander with 20 years on the force ok'ed something he knew would put him in prison or cause a giant shitstorm.
Just my opinion and we will all find out in the weeks to come. You could be right, shit happens especially in the heat of battle
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lol. I'm leaning toward this whole thing being some kind of exercise. "They" use a narcissistic weak minded guy(one of their own) and brainwash him until he snaps. Then they see how their front line reacts to it and how the public reacts to their front lines tactics. They then adjust their manuals accordingly.
There's talk that all cops are microchip-ed. Yet most have no clue that they are. Yet Dorner knew that he was and dug his out. That's why it took so long to get him.
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Here we go, the sociopaths are about to start their "let's defend the corrupt Cops who murder innocent people all the time and get away with it" campaign
How ironic, this describes you perfectly.
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You're making shit up again, dimwit. Never supported police misconduct. However, you clearly condone killing innocents.
You have constantly ignored the greater evil to focus on the lesser evil. To think one man's vengance causes more suffering and death than a large force of corrupt power mad sociopaths is absurd. I agree, that woman didn't deserve to die, and she most certainly didn't deserve a father like she had who would so willingly expose his family to such risk. Her death could have easily been avoided had the father decided to live the life of a decent man, but he turned rogue and chose criminality instead and we all know if you move in criminal circles, you expose yourself and your friends and family to risk.
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lol. I'm leaning toward this whole thing being some kind of exercise. "They" use a narcissistic weak minded guy(one of their own) and brainwash him until he snaps. Then they see how their front line reacts to it and how the public reacts to their front lines tactics. They then adjust their manuals accordingly.
hahha..I love this guy
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He was defending dorner. It's a fact, dimwit. Trying using them.
Take you misinformation somewhere else, he set Dorner up and perjured himself and deliberately ruined an innocent mans career because he didn't have the courage to do the right thing and cross the blue line. He is a criminal, and he should be held to account for the murder of his daughter. Sick Corrupt fucks like that deserve to be drowned in a bucket of Groinks urine. I suppose having to live with the fact you murdered your own daughter will serve as punishment enough.
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I think like a terrorist!. That's rich. You openly supported a corrupt Police Force, that routinely brings suffering and death to innocent people, you cheered as a man was murdered by the law and burnt to death without trial and in violation of the Geneva Convention, you ignored the Police as they shot at and seriously injured innocent citizens in pursuit of this man, you have openly shown support to a corrupt man who exposed his family too danger that resulted in his daughter being murdered. And you routinely attempt to make light of Pitbull attack that has seen not only myself seriously injured but many innocent children brutally maimed, mauled and killed every year. If you are the model of compassion and all things righteous, I will pass Thanks.
The Geneva Convention?
The LAPD violated standards of international law for the humanitarian treatment of war? Did the United States declare war on Chris Dorner? I think you're a bit confused.
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You have constantly ignored the greater evil to focus on the lesser evil. To think one man's vengance causes more suffering and death than a large force of corrupt power mad sociopaths is absurd. I agree, that woman didn't deserve to die, and she most certainly didn't deserve a father like she had who would so willingly expose his family to such risk. Her death could have easily been avoided had the father decided to live the life of a decent man, but he turned rogue and chose criminality instead and we all know if you move in criminal circles, you expose yourself and your friends and family to risk.
Intentionally killing innocent people is wrong. I'm sorry that your depraved and distorted sense of morality can't see that. A person loses all credibility when they become what they claim to despise.
You know nothing about her father or the circumstances surrounding dorners firing. All you know is what Dorner,who obviously has issue, says is true. Yet, you throw out all objectivity and believe Dorner without question. I don't know the truth and you sure as hell don't. You need to step back from your blood thirsty rage and try to assess the situation with more clarity and reason instead of going bonkers.
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You have constantly ignored the greater evil to focus on the lesser evil. To think one man's vengance causes more suffering and death than a large force of corrupt power mad sociopaths is absurd. I agree, that woman didn't deserve to die, and she most certainly didn't deserve a father like she had who would so willingly expose his family to such risk. Her death could have easily been avoided had the father decided to live the life of a decent man, but he turned rogue and chose criminality instead and we all know if you move in criminal circles, you expose yourself and your friends and family to risk.
first off, you don't know the first thing about the guy, other than what Dorner said. sorry but I'm not taking the word of a mentally unstable psychopath as the gospel.
second , LOLOLOL...yes everyone knows in a civilized society your innocent children pay the price for your mistakes ::)
again...sorry but I'm not subcribing to some fucked up "code" that a violent psychopath decided was justified, but you do that mr "pacifist" ;)
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The Geneva Convention?
The LAPD violated standards of international law for the humanitarian treatment of war? Did the United States declare war on Chris Dorner? I think you're a bit confused.
Sorry, I meant the Universal Declaration of Human Rights! My mistake
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first off, you don't know the first thing about the guy, other than what Dorner said. sorry but I'm not taking the word of a mentally unstable psychopath as the gospel.
second , LOLOLOL...yes everyone knows in a civilized society your innocent children pay the price for your mistakes ::)
again...sorry but I'm not subcribing to some fucked up "code" that a violent psychopath decided was justified, but you do that mr "pacifist" ;)
Beautifully said. Something's wrong with e-kul.
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Beautifully said. Something's wrong with e-kul.
Thx...i was going to say the same thing about yours.
According to E-Fool....it's Chritstopher Dorner's world, he makes the rules, and we are all just living in it...LOLOL
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Intentionally killing innocent people is wrong. I'm sorry that your depraved and distorted sense of morality can't see that. A person loses all credibility when they become what they claim to despise.
You know nothing about her father or the circumstances surrounding dorners firing. All you know is what Dorner,who obviously has issue, says is true. Yet, you throw out all objectivity and believe Dorner without question. I don't know the truth and you sure as hell don't. You need to step back from your blood thirsty rage and try to assess the situation with more clarity and reason instead of going bonkers.
The sad thing is we agree, but you view Dorner as the problem, which I acknowledge, but the police Forces corruption is a greater problem and they intentionally kill innocent people. I know of corrupt police blowing a whistle blowers head off in the toilet at the police Station and then covering it up, all because he exposed Police corruption. You constantly focus on Dorners killing of Innocents and ignore that of the Police Forces. You claim to be against individuals that take innocent lives yet openly show support for corrupt organisations that do. Either you are against the taking of innocent lives by anybody, or you are not. You can't suggest that a powerful group can flout the law and take lives as they deem fit but a pissed off civilian can't. This makes you the hypocrite.
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The sad thing is we agree, but you view Dorner as the problem, which I acknowledge, but the police Forces corruption is a greater problem and they intentionally kill innocent people. I know of corrupt police blowing a whistle blowers head off in the toilet at the police Station and then covering it up, all because he exposed Police corruption. You constantly focus on Dorners killing of Innocents and ignore that of the Police Forces. You claim to be against individuals that take innocent lives yet openly show support for corrupt organisations that do. Either you are against the taking of innocent lives by anybody, or you are not. You can't suggest that a powerful group can flout the law and take lives as they deem fit but a pissed off civilian can't. This makes you the hypocrite.
six words....two wrongs don't make a right.
people learn this when they are 7 years old...hope this helps
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The sad thing is we agree, but you view Dorner as the problem, which I acknowledge, but the police Forces corruption is a greater problem and they intentionally kill innocent people. I know of corrupt police blowing a whistle blowers head off in the toilet at the police Station and then covering it up, all because he exposed Police corruption. You constantly focus on Dorners killing of Innocents and ignore that of the Police Forces. You claim to be against individuals that take innocent lives yet openly show support for corrupt organisations that do. Either you are against the taking of innocent lives by anybody, or you are not. You can't suggest that a powerful group can flout the law and take lives as they deem fit but a pissed off civilian can't. This makes you the hypocrite.
I never ignored or condoned anything. You're making up shit again. Ive told you time and time again that police corruption and dorners response are wrong. The fact emains, a normal sane person doesn't handle the situation the way Dorner did. He was wrong and is certainly not a hero to be admired.
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first off, you don't know the first thing about the guy, other than what Dorner said. sorry but I'm not taking the word of a mentally unstable psychopath as the gospel.
second , LOLOLOL...yes everyone knows in a civilized society your innocent children pay the price for your mistakes ::)
again...sorry but I'm not subcribing to some fucked up "code" that a violent psychopath decided was justified, but you do that mr "pacifist" ;)
I know as much about the guy as you do, so based on your theory, that we only know what the media has told us I can safely assume for all we know he never killed anybody and was framed by the police and that's why they were determined to murder him. He was about to blow the lid wide open on massive corruption and they set him up. You will never know the frame of his mind, because you don't know the first thing about the guy, you don't know if he wrote that manifesto, you don't even know if he killed some innocent women and her partner. But, hey, take the word of a corrupt psychopathic police force, I'm sure they have everyone's best interest at heart. LOL
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haha......anybody want some BBQ?
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exactly....my opinion is they knew full well they were within their rights to do so becuase of this very fact. I doubt some commander with 20 years on the force ok'ed something he knew would put him in prison or cause a giant shitstorm.
Just my opinion and we will all find out in the weeks to come. You could be right, shit happens especially in the heat of battle
NOBODY at any level has the authority to light up people with fire. it's against Geneva convention.
now we know why the media was ordered 4 or 5 miles back.
now we know why CNN was initially told the fire started from the ammo inside + smoke grenades.
They failed to mention their coordinated use of flamethrower cause it's quite illegal.
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I know as much about the guy as you do, so based on your theory, that we only know what the media has told us I can safely assume for all we know he never killed anybody and was framed by the police and that's why they were determined to murder him. He was about to blow the lid wide open on massive corruption and they set him up. You will never know the frame of his mind, because you don't know the first thing about the guy, you don't know if he wrote that manifesto, you don't even know if he killed some innocent women and her partner. But, hey, take the word of a corrupt psychopathic police force, I'm sure they have everyone's best interest at heart. LOL
So the police made up this story about a guy who was fired 4 years ago and was already dismissed and done with his complaints, just to kill him ?
Yes, that's a persuaive rebutall, just take stupid to an ever higher level ::)
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NOBODY at any level has the authority to light up people with fire. it's against Geneva convention.
now we know why the media was ordered 4 or 5 miles back.
now we know why CNN was initially told the fire started from the ammo inside + smoke grenades.
They failed to mention their coordinated use of flamethrower cause it's quite illegal.
Don't care. It was cheaper than calling in an Apache.
I bet you're the kinda guy who watched Zero Dark Thirty and came away "changed....." ::)
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I never ignored or condoned anything. You're making up shit again. Ive told you time and time again that police corruption and dorners response are wrong. The fact emains, a normal sane person doesn't handle the situation the way Dorner did. He was wrong and is certainly not a hero to be admired.
I don't know why you are arguing with me then, I have stated they are both wrong, but I consider the Police corruption a greater threat than those trying desperately to expose it. Normal Sane people don't become corrupt police officers, and it most definitely could be argued that being exposed to the EVILS of corruption could test a man's sanity. By calling into question someone's sanity you are treading a fine line, I would argue it isn't normal or particularly sane to work in a corrupt organisation and do nothing the way most people do, Normal is a cycle on a washing machine, it is a subjective matter. Insanity is a term that Quacks like to use to suggest mental illness, unfortunately, unlike real illness, it isn't detectable at autopsy and essentially another control tool of Government that has no basis in reality. Countries such as America regularly behave in the same manner as Dorner, seeking to kill and murder the supposed evil enemy and thinking nothing of the collateral damage along the way. Personally, I think the average American, their support for war, gun ownership and their deep rooted narcissism isn't normal or sane.
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Why aren't they allowed to smoke him out, or let him burn inside? He is shooting and killing them. They're authorized to use lethal force so what's wrong with doing it that way?
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NOBODY at any level has the authority to light up people with fire. it's against Geneva convention.
now we know why the media was ordered 4 or 5 miles back.
now we know why CNN was initially told the fire started from the ammo inside + smoke grenades.
They failed to mention their coordinated use of flamethrower cause it's quite illegal.
they didn't light him on fire, they lit the building on fire, alledgedly.
dummy chose to burn to death
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they didn't light him on fire, they lit the building on fire, alledgedly.
dummy chose to burn to death
haha, yes. Groink bringing some clarity.
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they didn't light him on fire, they lit the building on fire, alledgedly.
dummy chose to burn to death
Can't assume that. What if he got tagged a couple times in the crossfire? He may have been killed already before burning. You never know.
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It does give new meaning to going out in a Blaze of Glory
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Can't assume that. What if he got tagged a couple times in the crossfire? He may have been killed already before burning. You never know.
sure hope not.....it would be a shame if were already dead.
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I don't know why you are arguing with me then, I have stated they are both wrong, but I consider the Police corruption a greater threat than those trying desperately to expose it. Normal Sane people don't become corrupt police officers, and it most definitely could be argued that being exposed to the EVILS of corruption could test a man's sanity. By calling into question someone's sanity you are treading a fine line, I would argue it isn't normal or particularly sane to work in a corrupt organisation and do nothing the way most people do, Normal is a cycle on a washing machine, it is a subjective matter. Insanity is a term that Quacks like to use to suggest mental illness, unfortunately, unlike real illness, it isn't detectable at autopsy and essentially another control tool of Government that has no basis in reality. Countries such as America regularly behave in the same manner as Dorner, seeking to kill and murder the supposed evil enemy and thinking nothing of the collateral damage along the way. Personally, I think the average American, their support for war, gun ownership and their deep rooted narcissism isn't normal or sane.
I've been arguing with you because you've been falsely accusing me of being a psychopath who supports bad cops. Also, I don't think the ends justify the means in this case.
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I don't know why you are arguing with me then, I have stated they are both wrong, but I consider the Police corruption a greater threat than those trying desperately to expose it. Normal Sane people don't become corrupt police officers, and it most definitely could be argued that being exposed to the EVILS of corruption could test a man's sanity. By calling into question someone's sanity you are treading a fine line, I would argue it isn't normal or particularly sane to work in a corrupt organisation and do nothing the way most people do, Normal is a cycle on a washing machine, it is a subjective matter. Insanity is a term that Quacks like to use to suggest mental illness, unfortunately, unlike real illness, it isn't detectable at autopsy and essentially another control tool of Government that has no basis in reality. Countries such as America regularly behave in the same manner as Dorner, seeking to kill and murder the supposed evil enemy and thinking nothing of the collateral damage along the way. Personally, I think the average American, their support for war, gun ownership and their deep rooted narcissism isn't normal or sane.
do you really think the average american supports war?
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Sad commentary on some humans when people have to defend their opinion that a guy who executed civilians as they sat in their car, and ambushed police officers is a bad guy. That they make this guy a hero kind of sickens me.
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Sad commentary on some humans when people have to defend their opinion that a guy who executed civilians as they sat in their car, and ambushed police officers is a bad guy. That they make this guy a hero kind of sickens me.
Agree. Hope its just trolling.
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Can't assume that. What if he got tagged a couple times in the crossfire? He may have been killed already before burning. You never know.
agree 100% and have said numerous times it will all come out in the wash.
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Sad commentary on some humans when people have to defend their opinion that a guy who executed civilians as they sat in their car, and ambushed police officers is a bad guy. That they make this guy a hero kind of sickens me.
never ambushed a single officer
all the officers he shot at were looking for him, he got the upper hand on them.
Osama Bin Ladan was ambushed
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sure hope not.....it would be a shame if were already dead.
;D
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All I want to know is if this fella is dead or alive?
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So the police made up this story about a guy who was fired 4 years ago and was already dismissed and done with his complaints, just to kill him ?
Yes, that's a persuaive rebutall, just take stupid to an ever higher level ::)
This was based on your assertion that nobody knows the guy, a ridiculous assertion. If it is indeed true, that Dorner wrote the manifesto, it was obviously coherent and informative. He came across as no more psychotic than the average police officer, who regularly distort the facts to justify their crimes against innocent civilians. The only difference between him and the cops, was that he no longer had the badge to protect him. I see no difference between Dorner and a cop having a bad day tazing some poor fuck to death because he dared look at the cop the wrong way. Difference is, scum-bag cop will be excused and promoted 6 moths later, even while performing his evil agenda, Dorner had a righteous motivation in exposing the corruption of the LAPD. So even though Dorner did the wrong thing, their is an understandable motivation behind it, compared to the PIGS who abuse the system and use corruption to serve their own ends.
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To Groink and/or Showstoppa:
Is it that you don't care he burned to death, or is it that you don't care about potential subversion of law by those who have sworn to uphold the law?
Just say it, whatever it is.
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To Groink and/or Showstoppa:
Is it that you don't care he burned to death, or is it that you don't care about potential subversion of law by those who have sworn to uphold the law?
Just say it, whatever it is.
They believe it is OK to Murder those who Murder, obviously, the problem with this is, by murdering a murderer you expose yourself to being murdered by someone else who has the same conviction.
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how whitey solves the problem with black folks ;D
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never ambushed a single officer
all the officers he shot at were looking for him, he got the upper hand on them.
Osama Bin Ladan was ambushed
something about a forest and trees ;D
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They believe it is OK to Murder those who Murder, obviously, the problem with this is, by murdering a murderer you expose yourself to being murdered by someone else who has the same conviction.
When a person has sworn to uphold the law, he needs to do that.
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How did they find his drivers license if his body was burned beyond recognition? That must be some incredible wallet he had to withstand the fire.
Where can I buy one?
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something about a forest and trees ;D
(http://i1-games.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Fat-Ninja_1.jpg)
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Without trust, we have nothing. That's why it's so important to maintain things in a certain way.
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So a lot of guys talking shit on this thread, that they can't back up.
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This was based on your assertion that nobody knows the guy, a ridiculous assertion. If it is indeed true, that Dorner wrote the manifesto, it was obviously coherent and informative. He came across as no more psychotic than the average police officer, who regularly distort the facts to justify their crimes against innocent civilians. The only difference between him and the cops, was that he no longer had the badge to protect him. I see no difference between Dorner and a cop having a bad day tazing some poor fuck to death because he dared look at the cop the wrong way. Difference is, scum-bag cop will be excused and promoted 6 moths later, even while performing his evil agenda, Dorner had a righteous motivation in exposing the corruption of the LAPD. So even though Dorner did the wrong thing, their is an understandable motivation behind it, compared to the PIGS who abuse the system and use corruption to serve their own ends.
No, i said you didn't know jack shit about the other officer. but keep rambling.
you could have just wrote "dorner did the wrong thing" and saved the rest.
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How did they find his drivers license if his body was burned beyond recognition? That must be some incredible wallet he had to withstand the fire.
Where can I buy one?
where did you hear or read this???
it was reported that he left his wallet and id and badge somewhere in san diego
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html)
2:20 a.m., Thursday, Feb. 7: A shuttle bus driver turns in a wallet with an LAPD badge and a picture ID of Dorner to San Diego police. The wallet was found fewer than five miles from the boat, near San Diego International Airport.
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I've been arguing with you because you've been falsely accusing me of being a psychopath who supports bad cops. Also, I don't think the ends justify the means in this case.
I don't believe you are a psychopath, just misguided. I see the situation as say, comparing a large Mexican cartel with a smaller one, both are criminals, both do whatever it takes to get ahead, and both inflict suffering on innocent people. But it's the larger cartel I am more worried about. To me, both are bad guys, it's Police corruption that is the issue for me. If it was just some random of the street with no agenda than to go out in a blaze of homicidal rage, then that is different, but this case opened up the can of worms that is Police corruption, an insidious blight on civilised cultures, and if one believes in searching for root causes, in this case it could be argued that it was definitely the trigger.
It is no different than when you engage in war, their will be unintended consequences and innocent lives lost, but those who engage in it, believe their cause is worth fighting for. WW2 seen many innocent lives lost, but it was seen as worthwhile as it removed a greater evil and NAZI ideology. Sometimes the end justifies the means. Do you support the Nuclear weapons America used on Japan to end the War?
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The audio shows two men enacting a burning plan they had discussed earlier, with a woman dispatcher repeating every detail.
I bet ALL the cops were pissed off. But in the middle of a standoff firefight, one "rogue" cop doesn't locate a flamethrower and just start cooking the place. this very much appears to be an action which was organized and thus needed approval from somebody.
I'm fine with dude getting wasted. I'm not fine with a few policeman telling the media to step back 5 miles, then coordinating an effort to burn a human being alive. Cause once it's okay once, it's okay to burn cities full of people.
THIS! It's sad that people's emotions can get in the way of there own safety and rights.
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I don't believe you are a psychopath, just misguided. I see the situation as say, comparing a large Mexican cartel with a smaller one, both are criminals, both do whatever it takes to get ahead, and both inflict suffering on innocent people. But it's the larger cartel I am more worried about. To me, both are bad guys, it's Police corruption that is the issue for me. If it was just some random of the street with no agenda than to go out in a blaze of homicidal rage, then that is different, but this case opened up the can of worms that is Police corruption, an insidious blight on civilised cultures, and if one believes in searching for root causes, in this case it could be argued that it was definitely the trigger.
It is no different than when you engage in war, their will be unintended consequences and innocent lives lost, but those who engage in it, believe their cause is worth fighting for. WW2 seen many innocent lives lost, but it was seen as worthwhile as it removed a greater evil and NAZI ideology. Sometimes the means justify the end. Do you support the Nuclear weapons America used on Japan to end the War?
Yes but it doesn't matter what YOU think. or your ridiculous analogies. this isn't a mexican drug cartel, it's a psycho cop who shot innocent people.
People don't get to make up their own laws and dispense justice as they see fit, and start killing people because they lost their job.....and now he's dead because of it ....you can whine all day long
I think next time someone gives me the wrong change I'll grab a ketchup bottle and beat their head in, or better still, find their kid and beat their head in...I'll just make up my own laws ::)
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How did they find his drivers license if his body was burned beyond recognition? That must be some incredible wallet he had to withstand the fire.
Where can I buy one?
they are made from the indestructible skins of people, the same people who were in the towers by the windows while the heat was so intense it burned steel down
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they are made from the indestructible skins of people, the same people who were in the towers by the windows while the heat was so intense it burned steel down
;D
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Yes but it doesn't matter what I think. or my ridiculous analogies.
Only the Police get to make up their own laws and dispense justice as they see fit, and start killing people because they feel like it.....
And yes, people do get to make up their own laws and shoot innocent people, it's called the police Force. Your love of the police borders on the sickening.
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They believe it is OK to Murder those who Murder, obviously, the problem with this is, by murdering a murderer you expose yourself to being murdered by someone else who has the same conviction.
Yes, a murderer has shown that he/she no longer deserves to be part of our society. Why should people carry the burden to imprison someone who no longer servers a benefit to anyone?
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People don't get to make up their own laws and dispense justice as they see fit
Absolutely true. So why would you support the torching of that cabin?
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And yes, people do get to make up their own laws and shoot innocent people, it's called the police Force. Your love of the police borders on the sickening.
This is what happens when an idiot doesn't know what else to say
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Yes, a murderer has shown that he/she no longer deserves to be part of our society. Why should people carry the burden to imprison someone who no longer servers a benefit to anyone?
because its the laws that govern us
the same laws we must all abide by , they must uphold themselves
after his sentence of death, the next day put a needle in his ass and send his ass the glue factory
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This is what happens when an idiot doesn't know what else to say
Are you just mad bro, this is what you post when you have nothing left to say, a picture speaks a thousand words.
:o
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Absolutely true. So why would you support the torching of that cabin?
Where did i say that? I said we don't know what happened yet and it's my opinion the police wouldn't be so stupid as to do something so overtly wrong and against procedure..and i also said nobody knows for sure and it will all come out in the wash.
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Yes, a murderer has shown that he/she no longer deserves to be part of our society. Why should people carry the burden to imprison someone who no longer servers a benefit to anyone?
But under your system isn't murdering murderers murder punishable by murder?
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Are you just mad bro, this is what you post when you have nothing left to say, a picture speaks a thousand words.
:o
resorting to childish pictures, and "u mad bro?" because you are taking it up the ass, my work here is done.
E-Fool is offically The Village Idiot...LOLOL
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resorting to childish pictures, and "u mad bro?" because you are taking it up the ass, my work here is done.
E-Fool is offically The Village Idiot...LOLOL
Hey you forgot to include the Pic when you quoted my post.
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I think the bottom line here is that a piece of shit shot up other pieces of shit.
Shooting the family was a bitch move, but I really couldn't give a fuck less if some corrupt LAPD officers got lit up. It'd be a shame if some of the officers were innocents however
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Where did i say that? I said we don't know what happened yet and it's my opinion the police wouldn't be so stupid as to do something so overtly wrong and against procedure..and i also said nobody knows for sure and it will all come out in the wash.
lol
So you wouldn't support the burning of the cabin, no matter your opinion of Dorner, right?
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How did the cops know he didnt have anyone tied up in there?
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lol
So you wouldn't support the burning of the cabin, no matter your opinion of Dorner, right?
that's not what i said at all.
you misinterpreted my post. I'm saying that the police wouldn't have done something so massively against procedure in full view of the media...unless they are complete idiots, and the jury is still out, hell it's not even in yet. right or wrong has nothing to do with it.
my personal opinion is they aren't incompetent morons, and knew exactly what they were doing
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How did the cops know he didnt have anyone tied up in there?
they didn't know. he could have had a whole family tied up. Same with the two vehicles they shot up in traffic - they were so blindly angry that they didn't care about innocents.
Some people are equating being against the fire use, with supporting Dorner somehow. That's NOT the case. Dude was a murderer and belonged in prison then death penalty. But the MOMENT we say it's okay for police to firebomb this guy, we say it's okay for them to firebomb WHENEVER THEY FEEL IT IS OKAY. I'm not really feeling the discretion of law enforcement.
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they didn't know. he could have had a whole family tied up. Same with the two vehicles they shot up in traffic - they were so blindly angry that they didn't care about innocents.
Some people are equating being against the fire use, with supporting Dorner somehow. That's NOT the case. Dude was a murderer and belonged in prison then death penalty. But the MOMENT we say it's okay for police to firebomb this guy, we say it's okay for them to firebomb WHENEVER THEY FEEL IT IS OKAY. I'm not really feeling the discretion of law enforcement.
What difference would it be if they used a drone w missles to attack him in the cabin?
Nothing. This seems like WACO to me a bit
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What difference would it be if they used a drone w missles to attack him in the cabin?
Nothing. This seems like WACO to me a bit
Nothing. Both would be illegal. This is a LOT like Waco. They remembered to kick out the media, but forgot people would be scanning the radios when they decided to execute him.
They did execute him. They burned an occupied house. Not accidentally - on purpose and in a very coordinated effort, which we heard.
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it is obvious Chris was killing what the cops loved most , their family
so they all took it personal to save their family from harm
they would of burn that building down no matter who was in that building with Chris be it a woman, man, kid, cop, chief of police , mayor , whatever
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Hold someone in the death row for at least 10 years can cost about 2 millions of $
for the state. California is near to the bankruptcy, better is to kill him directly.
But cops who shot in all azimuts should be in jail.
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Hold someone in the death row for at least 10 years can cost about 2 millions of $
for the state. California is near to the bankruptcy, better is to kill him directly.
But cops who shot in all azimuts should be in jail.
they still have police on full time watch for the people on his manafesto and their family and the LAPD said they will continue to do so until its safe,
these idiots watch too much THE WALKING DEAD
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It is a violation of the Geneva convention to use flame weapons against a civilian. It is murder to have a police officer do it intentionally to murder the occupant.
Pretty funny... Dorner's goal was to expose how evil and lawbreaking the law enforcers were. He did that with his death. They ordered him to be burned alive. It's all over national news now. Someone ordered the use of the "burner".
Reminds me of the end of the movie with clint eastwood, Gran Torino.
X2
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Lots of people jumping to conclusions here. :D
assuming that the police just decided to burn him alive in a house, something so outlandish and wrong it would be sure to cause major waves.
And they decided to do this, for the first time ever, in the face of a massivley publicized manhunt that is going to be pored over with a fine tooth comb. Yes, the top brass OK'd this absolutely retarded course of action.
"hey guys, let's burn him to death and answer questions about it for the rest of our lives"
Something went wrong, shit was crazy, and that's what wound up happening...as facts come out it will become clearer
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Cops deal with a shitload of Evil during the Witching hours that most people don't want to deal with. And because most cops are on a rotating schedule, its easy to see how emotions can carry over. FAct is, cops are being experimented on as much as the society that they stand in front of.
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Yawn.....he wasn't trapped in that house. He could have walked out at anytime. He chose to fry like the fat sloth that he was
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Burning the cabin probably saved many innocent lives , fuck him .
I support the burning 100%
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The Hierarchy call the shots. When the cops set the place ablaze, they were just following orders like good little robots.
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Burning the cabin probably saved many innocent lives , fuck him .
I support the burning 100%
i wish they could re-animate him and burn him to death again on live television
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Shock and AWe
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Dorner = Bertil Fox. Could have been great but just ended up dead.
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i wish they could re-animate him and burn him to death again on live television
Now that would be some shock and awe
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Burning the cabin probably saved many innocent lives , fuck him .
I support the burning 100%
you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
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Dorner has the look of a diabetic. Probably used too much Chinese HGH over the years.
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you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
The more they do it, the more desensitized the people become of it. These robots(cops)are just following orders.
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you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
They were trying to affect an arrest. He chose the outcome.
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i wish they could re-animate him and burn him to death again on live television
No shit, I would pay $55 PPV to watch that .
PS : hope he was the only one in that cabin .
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you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
That doesn't make any sense , or maybe I missed the part when Dorner came out with his hands up and the police shot him anyways.
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you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
but isn't that what he wanted? he could have surrendered at any point in time. Police are authorized BY LAW to use deadly force on a hostile suspect, they didn't take the law into their own hands, they followed the law.
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They drove into the cabin first, they knew who was there and who wasn't. My god you pansies make it sound like they ambushed him as he was sitting in a car minding his own business......oh wait, didn't Dorner do that a couple times.
Viva fire!
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Dorner = Bertil Fox. Could have been great but just ended up dead.
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BEST Comment of the entire thread, maybe of 2013 so far!!!!!!
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would of been a bit funny this caused a forest fire and burned half the homes in big bear
too bad it was snowing and the blaze couldn't spread
high fire season would of saved Doners ass from cooking like roasted ham
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they still have police on full time watch for the people on his manafesto and their family and the LAPD said they will continue to do so until its safe,
these idiots watch too much THE WALKING DEAD
for all they know, Dorner could have an accomplice, that if he dies, will continue the killing.
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anyone who is A-okay with the police torching the house...
You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
The minute you 'okay' their use of this power in this case, you give them the discretion to use it again. Any time they want.
Very dangerous precedent!!! If Obama decides bald muscular white dudes like 333386 are a danger to america, he can order 33's house to be firebombed.
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anyone who is A-okay with the police torching the house...
You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
The minute you 'okay' their use of this power in this case, you give them the discretion to use it again. Any time they want.
Very dangerous precedent!!! If Obama decides bald muscular white dudes like 333386 are a danger to america, he can order 33's house to be firebombed.
Exactly.
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you are supporting police being judge jury and executioner.. a precedent irreversible.. kool.
(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dreddss.jpg)
And no one seems to care that the Police completely decimated an innocent persons cabin. What crime did the owner of the cabin commit?
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Ekul, you don`t think citizens should have firearms and you rail hard against the police, so much that you think they are all "worthless" killers.
Given your rationale, how is someone supposed to protect themselves at all with no gun and no police?
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How did the cops know he didnt have anyone tied up in there?
How did the cops know he wasn't cutting babies ears off one by one and working down to the feet?
How did the cops know he didn't have the launch codes to start world war III?
How did the cops know he didn't have Michael Jordan as a hostage?
There are probably a lot of things the cops didn't know. There are probably a lot of things the cops did know. Probably a little too soon to be asking those questions..maybe even a little inflammatory...
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anyone who is A-okay with the police torching the house...
You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
The minute you 'okay' their use of this power in this case, you give them the discretion to use it again. Any time they want.
Very dangerous precedent!!! If Obama decides bald muscular white dudes like 333386 are a danger to america, he can order 33's house to be firebombed.
Some things that don't add up. If the plan was to just burn him alive, why would they need to start tearing down walls first? Several articles coming out now that say police refer to tear gas canisters as "burners" (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&q=police+slang+burners+tear+gas&oq=police+slang+burners+tear+gas&gs_l=serp.3...2652.3990.0.4754.6.6.0.0.0.0.104.553.5j1.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.2.serp.Yl7i99I2FoM) Don't know if that's true or not but it might be that they didn't intentionally burn him alive.
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I'm saying that the police wouldn't have done something so massively against procedure in full view of the media...
So when you say this...
do i think that they accidentally on purpose let him burn to death? absolutely.
You mean to say that they would do it, while attempting to somehow be "clever" about it.
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never ambushed a single officer
all the officers he shot at were looking for him, he got the upper hand on them.
Osama Bin Ladan was ambushed
Yeah, stopped at a stop light isn't an ambush.. you really that stupid?
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Yeah, stopped at a stop light isn't an ambush.. you really that stupid?
X2. And that super scarey Asian basketball woman was also ambushed in her car by capt midnight here. Excellent choice of idols, ball lickers
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would of been a bit funny this caused a forest fire and burned half the homes in big bear
too bad it was snowing and the blaze couldn't spread
high fire season would of saved Doners ass from cooking like roasted ham
Didn't you say the police wouldn't catch this guy?
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Ekul, you don`t think citizens should have firearms and you rail hard against the police, so much that you think they are all "worthless" killers.
Given your rationale, how is someone supposed to protect themselves at all with no gun and no police?
I have already discussed this on a thread Dazza started about me. But essentially, it needs to be a massive, and I mean massive collective of individuals pushing for the changes they want to see. A little along the lines of a Gandhi style non violence movement. Although I love the idea of a militant vigilante style assault against the oppressors, I fear the citizens will always be out-gunned. The big problem as I see it, is big corporations, Governments can be manipulated and changed, but the corporate swine pulling the puppet string from behind need to be held to account. But most definitely the first step is constant debate about it and think tanks by the people to work out how to collaborate effectively. The main issue currently is how divided the oppressed are and how unable they are to come together as a large collective force. Once these barriers have been overcome change can slowly begin to happen. But I don't believe it an easy task, but eventually, when resources have maxed out and the people are hungry and cold, they might realise the need to come together. The other alternative is a benevolent dictator!
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Dorner = Bertil Fox. Could have been great but just ended up dead.
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BEST Comment of the entire thread, maybe of 2013 so far!!!!!! < -------- WTF?
Bertil is still alive
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Exactly.
there are a lot of things that bush/cheney did to violate rights... and libs were pissed about it, and conservatives cheered for it.
Then obama became president and exercised these same powers... libs suddenly looked the other way, and conservatives were sceaming from the rooftops.
Hilary or Jeb or whoever wins in 2016 is gonna be the most powerful president in history. Being 'okay' with police pouring fire on Americans civiliians on american soil... well, that translates to one being 'okay' with Hilary/Jeb/whoeever having that power to use anytime they'd like.
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I have already discussed this on a thread Dazza started about me. But essentially, it needs to be a massive, and I mean massive collective of individuals pushing for the changes they want to see. A little along the lines of a Gandhi style non violence movement. Although I love the idea of a militant vigilante style assault against the oppressors, I fear the citizens will always be out-gunned. The big problem as I see it, is big corporations, Governments can be manipulated and changed, but the corporate swine pulling the puppet string from behind need to be held to account. But most definitely the first step is constant debate about it and think tanks by the people to work out how to collaborate effectively. The main issue currently is how divided the oppressed are and how unable they are to come together as a large collective force. Once these barriers have been overcome change can slowly begin to happen. But I don't believe it an easy task, but eventually, when resources have maxed out and the people are hungry and cold, they might realise the need to come together. The other alternative is a benevolent dictator!
That's exactly the opposite of what Dorner did.
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Again, is this fella DEAD or ALIVE - Thanks
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Funny how the people that would criticize Dorner, cannot seem to call out the cops for such outrageous behavior as the newspaper-delivery incident and the other incidents...and the people who would support Dorner cannot call him out for the killing of that innocent girl.
What the hell has become of us?
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So when you say this...
You mean to say that they would do it, while attempting to somehow be "clever" about it.
who knows, i have said numerous times it will all come out in the wash. You seem to want to ignore those posts and try and "pin me down" on the belief that I KNOW that's what happened.
that could be the case , and i have no problem with it if it is, he obviously had no intent of surrendering.
what I meant by that is that was not their intention, but when they realized he had no intention of fleeing a burning building, and they couldn't put it out because he might shoot them, they said " oh well, fuck him anyway".
he was more thah likely dead by self inflicted gunshot, and didn't burn to death anyway....this will be the case...quote me on that.
People seem to want to ignore the 600 pound gorilla in the room.......he did this to himself and could have surrendered at any point in the last 8 days. he was shooting and killing people until his last moment.
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That's exactly the opposite of what Dorner did.
What is the opposite of what Dorner did?
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Funny how the people that would criticize Dorner, cannot seem to call out the cops for such outrageous behavior as the newspaper-delivery incident and the other incidents...and the people who would support Dorner cannot call him out for the killing of that innocent girl.
What the hell has become of us?
Human beings can rationalize anything. We are all preloaded with a narrative that we simply plug events into in order for it to make sense to us.
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How did the cops know he wasn't cutting babies ears off one by one and working down to the feet?
How did the cops know he didn't have the launch codes to start world war III?
How did the cops know he didn't have Michael Jordan as a hostage?
There are probably a lot of things the cops didn't know. There are probably a lot of things the cops did know. Probably a little too soon to be asking those questions..maybe even a little inflammatory...
He never made any threats to babies in his manifesto
His Clearance in the military never granted him access to launch codes
Micheal Jordan was in his VIP box last night at the game
however there were plenty of cops out there looking for him and he could of gotten one by surprise and tied up with all the confusion head counts of officers out on the field could have been miscalculated
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who knows, i have said numerous times it will all come out in the wash. You seem to want to ignore those posts and try and "pin me down" on the belief that I KNOW that's what happened.[/b]
that could be the case , and i have no problem with it if it is, he obviously had no intent of surrendering.
what I meant by that is that was not their intention, but when they realized he had no intention of fleeing a burning building, and they couldn't put it out because he might shoot them, they said " oh well, fuck him anyway".
he was more thah likely dead by self inflicted gunshot, and didn't burn to death anyway....this will be the case...quote me on that.
I understand that you don't know, and I don't know. There are a limited number of possibilities, and we're talking about our potential reactions to those possibilities.
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Funny how the people that would criticize Dorner, cannot seem to call out the cops for such outrageous behavior as the newspaper-delivery incident and the other incidents...and the people who would support Dorner cannot call him out for the killing of that innocent girl.
What the hell has become of us?
americans wanted to see this play out. They wanted to see the drama, and most importantly be "entertained".
This was true "reality TV" with a "get back at the man, at all costs" mentality. What they (the police) and he (Dorner) did to innocents, is "collateral damage", the entertainment was what people wanted, if people were killed in the process, "oh well", is what the populace thinks.
And this shows what we now think of human life.
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What's with this thread title "Rise and Fall"? Fucker never rose, he was in a freefall his whole life.
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What's with this thread title "Rise and Fall"? Fucker never rose, he was in a freefall his whole life.
supposedly he had a good vert and could dunk for a big man
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I have already discussed this on a thread Dazza started about me. But essentially, it needs to be a massive, and I mean massive collective of individuals pushing for the changes they want to see. A little along the lines of a Gandhi style non violence movement.
But most definitely the first step is constant debate about it and think tanks by the people to work out how to collaborate effectively.
He did absolutely nothing constructive. Cops burned his ass up.... Guy had a future and he threw it all away because of a grudge. From all accounts he could be an affable guy who communicated well. Instead of using his communication skills to bring people together and shed like on a serious issue like police corruption, he succumb to his desire for vengeance. look where it led him.
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americans wanted to see this play out. They wanted to see the drama, and most importantly be "entertained".
This was true "reality TV" with a "get back at the man, at all costs" mentality. What they (the police) and he (Dorner) did to innocents, is "collateral damage", the entertainment was what people wanted, if people were killed in the process, "oh well", is what the populace thinks.
And this shows what we now think of human life.
Just another reality show on the tv.
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americans wanted to see this play out. They wanted to see the drama, and most importantly be "entertained".
This was true "reality TV" with a "get back at the man, at all costs" mentality. What they (the police) and he (Dorner) did to innocents, is "collateral damage", the entertainment was what people wanted, if people were killed in the process, "oh well", is what the populace thinks.
And this shows what we now think of human life.
I hope that isn't true enough to make such a generalization.
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He did absolutely nothing constructive. Cops burned his ass up.... Guy had a future and he threw it all away because of a grudge. From all accounts he could be an affable guy who communicated well. Instead of using his communication skills to bring people together and shed like on a serious issue like police corruption, he succumb to his desire for vengeance. look where it led him.
I wasn't talking about Dorner, someone asked me with my anti gun, anti police stance how do I propose the oppressed citizens do something about it. I gave a brief overview of what I thought, but basically until what I suggested happens, individuals will continue to throw their hands up in frustration and say "FUCK IT" , feel as if nothing will ever change and go out in a blaze of glory not giving two fucks who they take with them.
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cabin owner must be pissed ;D
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cabin owner must be pissed ;D
Lol. "I don't care about the fire damage. But how do I get the black smell out of here"
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cabin owner must be pissed ;D
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We're fuckin' switchin'! I'm washin' the windows, and you're pickin' up this black's skull!
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I hope that isn't true enough to make such a generalization.
"Zero F___s Given" is the saying...It's become a cliche.
We've become cold, callous, cynical...it was just a show, a movie.
As Groink said, the LAPD will continue to do what they do, lives have been lost, people have been shot for mistaken identity, a house burned down---all the makings of a video game.
Meanwhile, you have the President's State of The Union Address, and then in his neck of the woods, some university student shoots his room mates with a handgun, and had an Uzi.
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I hate to say this but THE ONLY one that knows what they are talking about in this thread is ''240 is back''.
This guy killed innocent people and he is a POS but we do not have to torture him in anyway (although it would feel good and he deserves it) This would halt our progress in humanity to being as civilized as possible, some of you sound like barbarians and savages.
There are laws, rules and regulation, breaking these can lead to some heavy consequences. Sure Groink let's set him on fire and make a martyr out of him so ten more of his followers can spring up next month just so we can be happy that we bruised his flesh and blood............... there are procedures for a REASON AND TRUST ME ALL THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CABIN BURNING ARE IN CRAZY SHIT, BAD MOVE, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE MISTAKE.
As for the Geneva Convention and Protocols is concerned, I don't think they would even apply here 240 cause the national laws would be enough to cover all the angles but you are right in the case that they didn't the international laws would most certainly.
It always makes some happy when a scumbag suffers understandably so, however in such case the authorities must disregard all feelings and follow procedure designed by intelligent people who weigh the advantages and disadvantages appropriately.
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"Zero F___s Given" is the saying...It's become a cliche.
We've become cold, callous, cynical...it was just a show, a movie.
As Groink said, the LAPD will continue to do what they do, lives have been lost, people have been shot for mistaken identity, a house burned down---all the makings of a video game.
Meanwhile, you have the President's State of The Union Address, and then in his neck of the woods, son university student shoots his room mates with a handgun, and had an Uzi.
There's still good out there. There are still people who believe.
Maybe it's better to look at it as a race with time, rather than as a lost cause.
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that is the kind of things savages do in africa
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=737_1311213769 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=737_1311213769)
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that is the kind of things savages do in africa
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=737_1311213769 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=737_1311213769)
I didn't see a door for him to walk out of.
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I didn't see a door for him to walk out of.
yes there was, it was the same door dorner stepped out of and was forced back in when they were firing at him
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yes there was, it was the same door dorner stepped out of and was forced back in when they were firing at him
Did this happen? I've only heard that here. Doesn't surprise me if they burned him on purpose or as a result of incompetence.
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yes there was, it was the same door dorner stepped out of and was forced back in when they were firing at him
I hope this part of the story doesn't get buried. From the report I heard, the wording was "pushed back in". I'd love to know how this idea got out there, and where it came from.
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LAPD are lining up for some well done Dorner Kebabs.
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Did this happen? I've only heard that here. Doesn't surprise me if they burned him on purpose or as a result of incompetence.
i do not see why not, Doner killed a very very high up retired officer Mr Quans daughter, made it personal
so they treated it personal
they took care of one of their own
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I hate to say this but THE ONLY one that knows what they are talking about in this thread is ''240 is back''.
This guy killed innocent people and he is a POS but we do not have to torture him in anyway (although it would feel good and he deserves it) This would halt our progress in humanity to being as civilized as possible, some of you sound like barbarians and savages.
There are laws, rules and regulation, breaking these can lead to some heavy consequences. Sure Groink let's set him on fire and make a martyr out of him so ten more of his followers can spring up next month just so we can be happy that we bruised his flesh and blood............... there are procedures for a REASON AND TRUST ME ALL THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CABIN BURNING ARE IN CRAZY SHIT, BAD MOVE, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE MISTAKE.
As for the Geneva Convention and Protocols is concerned, I don't think they would even apply here 240 cause the national laws would be enough to cover all the angles but you are right in the case that they didn't the international laws would most certainly.
It always makes some happy when a scumbag suffers understandably so, however in such case the authorities must disregard all feelings and follow procedure designed by intelligent people who weigh the advantages and disadvantages appropriately.
like i have said.....let's wait and find out all the facts.
I am just being devil's advocate with the hateful shit...although I'm glad he's dead.
I base my opinion on the same thing 240 bases his on, the audio and video that shows they were openly planning to "burn" the house. where we differ is i think they knew exactly what they were doing and following a procedure that is accepted and perfectly legal.
what happened after that is unclear and way too premature to say you "know" anything.
if it turns out that these guys took the law into their own hands and it was an unsanctioned criminal act....color me surprised as fuck. but i seriously doubt that, i hear nothing like that on any news channel from anyone in a postion of authority...just intenet experts.
the story is already falling off the rotation.
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like i have said.....let's wait and find out all the facts.
I am just being devil's advocate with the hateful shit...although I'm glad he's dead.
I base my opinion on the same thing 240 bases his on, the audio and video that shows they were openly planning to "burn" the house. where we differ is i think they knew exactly what they were doing and following a procedure that is accepted and perfectly legal.
what happened after that is unclear and way too premature to say you "know" anything.
if it turns out that these guys took the law into their own hands and it was an unsanctioned criminal act....color me surprised as fuck. but i seriously doubt that, i hear nothing like that on any news channel from anyone in a postion of authority...just intenet experts.
the story is already falling off the rotation.
The thing is we will never know. Thye won't admit they burnt it purposely they will just say it was an unintended consequence of trying to get him out blah blah blah and it's not the outcome we wanted, we wanted him alive blah blah blah. The truth will never come out because they will never admit to purposely burning the building if that's exactly what they did.
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He was an arse and got toasted.
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I have already discussed this on a thread Dazza started about me. But essentially, it needs to be a massive, and I mean massive collective of individuals pushing for the changes they want to see. A little along the lines of a Gandhi style non violence movement. Although I love the idea of a militant vigilante style assault against the oppressors, I fear the citizens will always be out-gunned. The big problem as I see it, is big corporations, Governments can be manipulated and changed, but the corporate swine pulling the puppet string from behind need to be held to account. But most definitely the first step is constant debate about it and think tanks by the people to work out how to collaborate effectively. The main issue currently is how divided the oppressed are and how unable they are to come together as a large collective force. Once these barriers have been overcome change can slowly begin to happen. But I don't believe it an easy task, but eventually, when resources have maxed out and the people are hungry and cold, they might realise the need to come together. The other alternative is a benevolent dictator!
Didn`t answer my question at all.
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Groink really doesn't understand the Blue Code of Silence, even if they did murder that fucker in cold blood and then pissed in his mouth and shoved tampons up his dead arse, do you think anyone is going to say anything and risk their career, reputation and possibly their LIFE! Groink lives in a fairy tail where stories of systemic corruption are just figments of crazy peoples imagination. The whole reason Dorner went troppo was because the inbuilt corrupt culture of the LAPD was essentially bulletproof and their was essentially nothing a decent man could do about it.
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OH WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
THE BURNED A POOR WOMAN TO DEATH!!!!!!! ??? ??? ???
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OH WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
THE BURNED A POOR WOMAN TO DEATH!!!!!!! ??? ??? ???
WTF, wow if this is so, those cops are done for.
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Ekul, you don`t think citizens should have firearms and you rail hard against the police, so much that you think they are all "worthless" killers.
Given your rationale, how is someone supposed to protect themselves at all with no gun and no police?
That's the whole point, You can't. it's no better with a Gun and No Police either. All you do is ironically increase your odds of being shot, not lessen them. That's why I said, the average Joe Public needs to get vocal about it, and yesterday. Stop waiting for the Government to strike and rally back against them and demand changes that empower the individual and the oppressed. Anyway, I am not going to go over my overview again, but essentially, the best one can do is to treat people well, don't give people any excuse to fuck you and hope you come out best in the karmic lottery.
I remember reading a book years ago about Mountain Climbers and ways to prevent accidents. I can't even remember the name of the book it was that long ago (I will try and remember the name of the book), and it went into detail about accidents, in general and also in mountain climbing. I remember thinking he articulated and researched his arguments very well, and fuck me dead if at the end of the book, he concluded that it was IMPOSSIBLE to prevent serious accidents, no matter how well prepared you were, it was almost as if he concluded that an inexperienced climber could die the very next climb he had and some dude wearing sandals who had barely any experience could climb the same mountain at the same time unprepared and get up and down safely. I guess what I am getting at, is when your time is up, your time is up and shit happens and no amount of preparations can prevent it from happening.
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CNN's headline at 5:34.... did police deliberately burn down cabine....
tactics questioned in fiery siege
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WTF, wow if this is so, those cops are done for.
yeah, unknown woman put up this gunfight while dorkner was tunneling out and fled on horseback ::) ::) ::)
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That's the whole point, You can't. it's no better with a Gun and No Police either. All you do is ironically increase your odds of being shot, not lessen them. That's why I said, the average Joe Public needs to get vocal about it, and yesterday. Stop waiting for the Government to strike and rally back against them and demand changes that empower the individual and the oppressed. Anyway, I am not going to go over my overview again, but essentially, the best one can do is to treat people well, don't give people any excuse to fuck you and hope you come out best in the karmic lottery. I remember reading a book years ago about Mountain Climbers and ways to prevent accidents. I can't even remember the name of the book it was that long ago (I will try and remember the name of the book), and it went into detail about accidents, in general and also in mountain climbing. And fuck me dead if at the end of the book, he concluded that it was IMPOSSIBLE to prevent serious accidents, no matter how well prepared you were, it was almost as if he concluded that an inexperienced climber could die the very next climb he had and some dude wearing sandals who had barely any experience could climb the same mountain at the same time unprepared and get up and down safely. I guess what I am getting at, is when your time is up, your time is up and shit happens and no amount of preparations can prevent it from happening.
Unless of course you father was involved in a police scandal, then you deserve to die....cartel style .... ::) ::)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/nancy-dorner-chris-dorner_n_2678994.html
His mom was just drinking and joking around and eating chips and salsa?
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like i have said.....let's wait and find out all the facts.
I am just being devil's advocate with the hateful shit...although I'm glad he's dead.
I base my opinion on the same thing 240 bases his on, the audio and video that shows they were openly planning to "burn" the house. where we differ is i think they knew exactly what they were doing and following a procedure that is accepted and perfectly legal.
what happened after that is unclear and way too premature to say you "know" anything.
if it turns out that these guys took the law into their own hands and it was an unsanctioned criminal act....color me surprised as fuck. but i seriously doubt that, i hear nothing like that on any news channel from anyone in a postion of authority...just intenet experts.
the story is already falling off the rotation.
It is not legal, it was not procedure and they knew it was not. You guys keep talking about there intentions as if the intentions make it legal or not (although intentions make the severity of it differently), well it is illegal whether there intentions were to burn him or not. The fact that they set a building on fire with a human inside is illegal according to international laws and probably national laws as well but I have to double check but certainly against Geneva policies.
You can use smoke or burn a portion of a building to lure him into another side of a building but you can not by law engulf the entire building. These guys fucked up BIG TIME and we do not have to wait, it is extremely obvious and you will see this blow up in their face BIG TIME.
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You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
I'm OK with it ,
Dorner was and extremely dangerous criminal , in this case, lethal force was completely justified .
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but essentially, the best one can do is to treat people well, don't give people any excuse to fuck you and hope you come out best in the karmic lottery.
Unless of course you father was involved in a police scandal, then you deserve to die....cartel style .... ::) ::)
She lost the karmic lottery, what can I say!
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Burning some one alive is NOT the USA way. Legal system should put him on trial. WACO and this are beyond fucked up.
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CNN's headline at 5:34.... did police deliberately burn down cabine....
tactics questioned in fiery siege
Hey Rob...do you really think they would be talking about it so casually and at length, getting confirmation every step of the way...if they knew they were doing something wrong ?
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At least go in and shoot him to death like they did Osama. They did NOT burn Osama alive.
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Burning some one alive is NOT the USA way. Legal system should put him on trial. WACO and this are beyond fucked up.
WACO was fucked up, this is not.
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Trust in Law is all we have as a society. If we lose that trust, we've lost everything. The police repeatedly shattered that trust during this case. It says absolutely nothing about Dorner.
Tough to believe that would be so hard to understand.
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Trust in Law is all we have as a society. If we lose that trust, we've lost everything. The police repeatedly shattered that trust during this case. It says absolutely nothing about Dorner.
Tough to believe that would be so hard to understand.
Dorners reaction to the situation says a lot about him.
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Again, where does it say that they CANNOT use fire to kill him?
Deadly force, as defined by the United States Armed Forces, is the force which a person uses, causing—or that a person knows, or should know, would create a substantial risk of causing—death or serious bodily harm. In most jurisdictions, the use of deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.
Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force. The use of non-weapons in an aggressive manner, such as a baseball bat or tire iron, may also be considered deadly force.
"Use of deadly force" is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. For example, an armed man in a shopping mall shooting at civilians without regard to the safety of anyone around him, and refusing or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death. In the United States this is governed by Tennessee v. Garner, which said that "deadly force...may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." This case established the Fleeing felon rule exception to the use of deadly force. Under this exception, if a police officer establishes probable cause that an individual escaping poses a serious threat of death or significant harm to the officer or others, the officer can use deadly force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force
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Hey Rob...do you really think they would be talking about it so casually and at length, getting confirmation every step of the way...if they knew they were doing something wrong ?
Bro, these are humans, they make stupid decisions. I know you want to believe they are professionals and can not make a huge mistake like this especially in front of media but this is knew territory they are treading in and this does not happen everyday. These guys were simply impatient, emotional and very COWBOY like trying to be the ''man'' who brings down the big bad wolf, this overly ambitious boss who gave the OK fucked up big time and he will be in the hot seat in the media for the next few months, I put money on it.
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Dorners reaction to the situation says a lot about him.
What do you mean?
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Again, where does it say that they CANNOT use fire to kill him?
Deadly force, as defined by the United States Armed Forces, is the force which a person uses, causing—or that a person knows, or should know, would create a substantial risk of causing—death or serious bodily harm. In most jurisdictions, the use of deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.
Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force. The use of non-weapons in an aggressive manner, such as a baseball bat or tire iron, may also be considered deadly force.
"Use of deadly force" is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. For example, an armed man in a shopping mall shooting at civilians without regard to the safety of anyone around him, and refusing or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death. In the United States this is governed by Tennessee v. Garner, which said that "deadly force...may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." This case established the Fleeing felon rule exception to the use of deadly force. Under this exception, if a police officer establishes probable cause that an individual escaping poses a serious threat of death or significant harm to the officer or others, the officer can use deadly force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force
According to the Protocol III of the UN Convention on Conventional Weapons governing the use of incendiary weapons:
prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against civilians (effectively a reaffirmation of the general prohibition on attacks against civilians in Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions)
prohibits the use of air-delivered incendiary weapons against military targets located within concentrations of civilians and loosely regulates the use of other types of incendiary weapons in such circumstances.[6]
-4th Geneva Convention, Part 3, Article 1, Section 28
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Again, where does it say that they CANNOT use fire to kill him?
Deadly force, as defined by the United States Armed Forces, is the force which a person uses, causing—or that a person knows, or should know, would create a substantial risk of causing—death or serious bodily harm. In most jurisdictions, the use of deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.
Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force. The use of non-weapons in an aggressive manner, such as a baseball bat or tire iron, may also be considered deadly force.
"Use of deadly force" is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. For example, an armed man in a shopping mall shooting at civilians without regard to the safety of anyone around him, and refusing or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death. In the United States this is governed by Tennessee v. Garner, which said that "deadly force...may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." This case established the Fleeing felon rule exception to the use of deadly force. Under this exception, if a police officer establishes probable cause that an individual escaping poses a serious threat of death or significant harm to the officer or others, the officer can use deadly force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force
exactly dead is fucking dead, doesn't say HOW. and PS...he shot himself, they didn't kill him, or burn him to death.
I am really looking forward to a formal press conference so the police can shoot down the idiot reporter who says they burned him alive in two sentences, and says "next question"
and internet experts are crushing their tinfoil hats and swallowing their microphones in anger worldwide....LOL
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Again, where does it say that they CANNOT use fire to kill him?
Deadly force, as defined by the United States Armed Forces, is the force which a person uses, causing—or that a person knows, or should know, would create a substantial risk of causing—death or serious bodily harm. In most jurisdictions, the use of deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.
Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force. The use of non-weapons in an aggressive manner, such as a baseball bat or tire iron, may also be considered deadly force.
"Use of deadly force" is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. For example, an armed man in a shopping mall shooting at civilians without regard to the safety of anyone around him, and refusing or being unwilling to negotiate, would warrant usage of deadly force, as a means to prevent further danger to the community. The use of deadly force is also authorized when a person poses a significant threat to a law enforcement officer, usually when the officer is at risk of serious bodily injury or death. In the United States this is governed by Tennessee v. Garner, which said that "deadly force...may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." This case established the Fleeing felon rule exception to the use of deadly force. Under this exception, if a police officer establishes probable cause that an individual escaping poses a serious threat of death or significant harm to the officer or others, the officer can use deadly force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force
NO NO NO 100% illegal, I have studied the Geneva convention policy and protocol and these laws override all laws. It is stated that it is inhuman to burn a building with someone inside. i will look it up later but I know 100% sure it is against the Geneva Convention.
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I'd also like to know what "lesser means" had failed, and what exact threat others were under.
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waco and philadelphia MOVE
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With OTH on this.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/nancy-dorner-chris-dorner_n_2678994.html
His mom was just drinking and joking around and eating chips and salsa?
Nothing like watching your son get burned to death over some wine, chips & salsa , chicken enchiladas , and mariachi
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I don't see this anywhere. Sounds like CNN jumped the gun. You're going to see the building of a myth with stuff like this. So much information is flying all over the place with zero sourcing for accuracy. Certain people are going to believe certain things because they want to.
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where did you hear or read this???
it was reported that he left his wallet and id and badge somewhere in san diego
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html)
2:20 a.m., Thursday, Feb. 7: A shuttle bus driver turns in a wallet with an LAPD badge and a picture ID of Dorner to San Diego police. The wallet was found fewer than five miles from the boat, near San Diego International Airport.
Heard it on the radio driving into work today.
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this better not be true...that another person's body was found.
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Police did an excellent job burning Dorner .
LAPD spraying a couple vehicles and their occupants with bullets, without warning, and then claiming the only mistake was one of identity, that 's really fucked up .
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;D @ Nails!
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anyone who is A-okay with the police torching the house...
You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
The minute you 'okay' their use of this power in this case, you give them the discretion to use it again. Any time they want.
Very dangerous precedent!!! If Obama decides bald muscular white dudes like 333386 are a danger to america, he can order 33's house to be firebombed.
pretty much sums it up
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The Geneva Conventions don't apply; they only apply in wars between sovereign states.
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anyone who is A-okay with the police torching the house...
You have to also be okay with the govt/police being able to use that power whenever they deem it necessary.
The minute you 'okay' their use of this power in this case, you give them the discretion to use it again. Any time they want.
Very dangerous precedent!!! If Obama decides bald muscular white dudes like 333386 are a danger to america, he can order 33's house to be firebombed.
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Mace Windu: I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. The Dark Side of the Force surrounds the Chancellor.
Ki-Adi-Mundi: If he does not give up his emergency powers after the destruction of Grievous, then he must be forcibly removed from office.
Mace Windu: It will be tricky. The Jedi Council will have to take control of the Senate to ensure a peaceful transition to a new goverment and a new leadership for the Republic.
Yoda: Hmmm. To a dark place this line of thought will carry us. Great care we must take.
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exactly dead is fucking dead, doesn't say HOW. and PS...he shot himself, they didn't kill him, or burn him to death.
I am really looking forward to a formal press conference so the police can shoot down the idiot reporter who says they burned him alive in two sentences, and says "next question"
and internet experts are crushing their tinfoil hats and swallowing their microphones in anger worldwide....LOL
Bro I understand your perspective but time will tell that you are so wrong and this will not blow away like you stated above, these guys are in for it and they will have to climb for miles to crawl out of this hole. Trust me I am not just trying to argue with you as I completely understand how you feel about this scum and to prove my point I will tell you that I am somewhat happy he suffered even though I think it is wrong, just being honest.
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The Geneva Conventions don't apply; they only apply in wars between sovereign states.
Wrong Geneva convention over rules ALL LAWS
Applies to all arm conflict's to participating countries
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/nancy-dorner-chris-dorner_n_2678994.html
His mom was just drinking and joking around and eating chips and salsa?
Please---this story has so many holes. And maybe she didn't want to over-react, causing a scene. Or needed a drink, it's not like the police told her that they were going to raid the cabin where her son is.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I think he is dead.
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Bro I understand your perspective but time will tell that you are so wrong and this will not blow away like you stated above, these guys are in for it and they will have to climb for miles to crawl out of this hole. Trust me I am not just trying to argue with you as I completely understand how you feel about this scum and to prove my point I will tell you that I am somewhat happy he suffered even though I think it is wrong, just being honest.
They haven't broken any police protocols. They are allowed to use fire, cars, tyre irons even! if they believe their lives are in immediate danger. He had killed a cop, killed another, and publicly stated he would kill more. Nothing will happen to them.
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Hey Rob...do you really think they would be talking about it so casually and at length, getting confirmation every step of the way...if they knew they were doing something wrong ?
I don't think they would have pushed all media back 4 miles if they believed they weren't breaking any laws ;)
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
because its CNN lmao
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I don't think they would have pushed all media back 4 miles if they believed they weren't breaking any laws ;)
Yes and then light a fire you can see for 20 miles and talk about it in plain english, repeating every word for confirmation, on scanners they know are being recorded. ;)
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
It was the featured 530 PM story on CNN tonight. I posted right afterwards. Wolf Blitxer. I'm thinking it'll be on at 7:30 as well, if they repeat shows?
Police tactics questioned - did they start fire, with a nice analysis of what it is illegal.
The Qs about this are just getting started on this one.
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Wrong Geneva convention over rules ALL LAWS
Applies to all arm conflict's to participating countries
"In Time of War". Despite appearances, this does not constitute that.
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Yes and then light a fire you can see for 20 miles and talk about it in plain english, repeating every word for confirmation, on scanners they know are being recorded. ;)
they clearly lied about the source of the fire. That's not in question.
They changed the scanner channel to do the fire, but it was still picked up. They took it off the swat channel, I believe? then they went back to the swat channel once fire was started? I thought I read that last night? but of course, the scanners still record all.
IF IF IF that is the case, yikes!
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why use fire why not just use grenades or blow it up
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another question...if police OBVIOUSLY violated this man's civil rights, and burned him to death, why aren't Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and 5000 black people having a rally in big bear ?
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Yes and then light a fire you can see for 20 miles and talk about it in plain english, repeating every word for confirmation, on scanners they know are being recorded. ;)
I just saw it on the news and the question arouse that they set the cabin on fire with him inside, trust me this will blow up
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another question...if police OBVIOUSLY violated this man's civil rights, and burned him to death, why aren't Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and 5000 black people having a rally in big bear ?
cause it is to cold outside ;D
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They haven't broken any police protocols. They are allowed to use fire, cars, tyre irons even! if they believe their lives are in immediate danger. He had killed a cop, killed another, and publicly stated he would kill more. Nothing will happen to them.
Read what you posted. What "lesser means" had failed, and what danger were they in?
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65 pages? ;D
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another question...if police OBVIOUSLY violated this man's civil rights, and burned him to death, why aren't Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and 5000 black people having a rally in big bear ?
jesse and Al don't do the "Crazy black police officer" bit. He was a former officer, therefore he represented authority. Plus, he shot an innocent person... Being on Dorner's side doesn't serve THEIR purpose, and would make them less popular.
Jesse and Al do what serves Jesse and Al best, their egos come first. And then the rest is spun.
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
So when something outrageous happens, we can automatically depend upon the media to focus on it. Is that what you're saying?
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Jackson and Sharpton tend to focus on things that can be construed as racially-motivated.
They are also shakedown artists, and there is no one to directly shake down.
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65 pages? ;D
Same number the Pope slept with.
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
The News ALWAYS gets things wrong. Every single station. They are not the end all of information. Especially when it comes to Scientific matters, the Mainstream media is piss poor and never gets those reports correct nor do they understand what they are reporting on.
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So when something outrageous happens, we can automatically depend upon the media to focus on it. Is that what you're saying?
LOL @ you constantly trying to put words in my mouth.
point I'm making is if this were true, not one person in the mainstream media has said it out loud thus far ? i guess they need to fire everyone in their legal and research departments and hire getbiggers.
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why use fire why not just use grenades or blow it up
or wait until he wasnt looking and shoot him while hes in a car
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LOL @ you constantly trying to put words in my mouth.
point I'm making is if this were true, not one person in the mainstream media has said it out loud thus far ? i guess they need to fire everyone in their legal and research departments and hire getbiggers.
Because their intention is to give a fully inclusive, unbiased report?
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another question...if police OBVIOUSLY violated this man's civil rights, and burned him to death, why aren't Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and 5000 black people having a rally in big bear ?
Because its not politically expedient for them to do so. They pick and choose their battles and this is one they won`t touch given the circumstances.
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LOL @ you constantly trying to put words in my mouth.
point I'm making is if this were true, not one person in the mainstream media has said it out loud thus far ? i guess they need to fire everyone in their legal and research departments and hire getbiggers.
Getbiggers know what's up.
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LOL @ you constantly trying to put words in my mouth.
point I'm making is if this were true, not one person in the mainstream media has said it out loud thus far ? i guess they need to fire everyone in their legal and research departments and hire getbiggers.
They are questioning it. I just saw Wolf Blitzers report.
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i wonder if the cops are going to kill his family memebers now
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i wonder if the cops are going to kill his family memebers now
they already tired to kill his new paper delivery woman and his friend the white surfer
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Ekul, you don`t think citizens should have firearms and you rail hard against the police, so much that you think they are all "worthless" killers.
Given your rationale, how is someone supposed to protect themselves at all with no gun and no police?
very good point TA...
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i wonder if the cops are going to kill his family memebers now
Probably not, but you never know. Dorner is a case in point.
Also, Police should act according to law and nothing else. I don`t think they deserve power above the law whatsoever.
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i very interesting point to be made here
is how shitty of a shooter your average police officer is.
Chris Owned them all in shooting
police are only great marksman when a man is in handcuffs or holding a knife at 15ft away
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Probably not, but you never know. Dorner is a case in point.
Also, Police should act according to law and nothing else. I don`t think they deserve power above the law whatsoever.
but dorner is above the law right? he can kill indisrcimiately because he got fucked by the LAPD.
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but dorner is above the law right? he can kill indisrcimiately because he got fucked by the LAPD.
No. I don`t support his choice to kill people whatsoever. What makes you think I did? ??? You don`t make any sense.
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but dorner is above the law right? he can kill indisrcimiately because he got fucked by the LAPD.
Perhaps you don't understand the concept of the LAW, only those who don't break the LAW can enforce it, otherwise it's just criminals shooting criminals.
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They are questioning it. I just saw Wolf Blitzers report.
so did I...i didn't hear the words "geneva convention"...or...."illegally burned to death"...... a single time.
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That's really fucked up .
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Perhaps you don't understand the concept of the LAW, only those who don't break the LAW can enforce it, otherwise it's just criminals shooting criminals.
well, fucknut. what LAW are you referring to? the law against killing people sitting in cars? who broke that LAW? you want a perfect person / system who never broke any LAW. well the only person that that could be is our lord and savior RON AVIDAN!
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so did I...i didn't hear the words "geneva convention"...or...."illegally burned to death"...... a single time.
LAPD pulls ‘Waco’ on Christopher Dorner to silence him forever
Dorner’s killings were not random; but the LAPD’s attempted murders were! In fact, if you really look at the situation in retrospect, a typical LA citizen was far more likely to be killed by the LAPD than by Chris Dorner. Dorner was a selective killer while the LAPD attempted to kill people indiscriminately… seemingly at random.If you weren’t on Chris Dorner’s kill list, you had nothing to fear from Dorner. But if you were a black man with a bald head, you had everything to fear from the LAPD! And they proved it by opening fire on not just one innocent person, nor two, but THREE innocent citizens who didn’t even resemble Dorner
No wonder the LAPD was so desperately trying to murder Dorner on sight: the man knew too much.
more.... http://www.infowars.com/lapd-pulls-waco-on-christopher-dorner-orders-media-to-stand-down-before-burning-dorner-alive-to-silence-him-forever/ (http://www.infowars.com/lapd-pulls-waco-on-christopher-dorner-orders-media-to-stand-down-before-burning-dorner-alive-to-silence-him-forever/)
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well, fucknut. what LAW are you referring to? the law against killing people sitting in cars? who broke that LAW? you want a perfect person / system who never broke any LAW. well the only person that that could be is our lord and savior RON AVIDAN!
Dickhead, Dormer wasn't being employed to UPHOLD the LAW. As strange as this may seem to your small mind, the Police are held to a higher standard than your run of the mill psycho Killer on a murderous rampage.
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Just heard, they may try to deny the two cleaning women the reward money.
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very good point TA...
and no answer...
No modern means to protect yourself. No police, and damn sure no "pit bulls",
I guess E-Kul wants everybody to protect themselves using fire, swords and throwing knives (which the people can throw back)...or just run away.
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Dickhead, Dormer wasn't being employed to UPHOLD the LAW. As strange as this may seem to your small mind, the Police are held to a higher standard than your run of the mill psycho Killer on a murderous rampage.
yep, thats why the said "come out" before the burned his fat ass to the ground. problem solved
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LAPD pulls ‘Waco’ on Christopher Dorner to silence him forever
Dorner’s killings were not random; but the LAPD’s attempted murders were! In fact, if you really look at the situation in retrospect, a typical LA citizen was far more likely to be killed by the LAPD than by Chris Dorner. Dorner was a selective killer while the LAPD attempted to kill people indiscriminately… seemingly at random.If you weren’t on Chris Dorner’s kill list, you had nothing to fear from Dorner. But if you were a black man with a bald head, you had everything to fear from the LAPD! And they proved it by opening fire on not just one innocent person, nor two, but THREE innocent citizens who didn’t even resemble Dorner
No wonder the LAPD was so desperately trying to murder Dorner on sight: the man knew too much.
more.... http://www.infowars.com/lapd-pulls-waco-on-christopher-dorner-orders-media-to-stand-down-before-burning-dorner-alive-to-silence-him-forever/ (http://www.infowars.com/lapd-pulls-waco-on-christopher-dorner-orders-media-to-stand-down-before-burning-dorner-alive-to-silence-him-forever/)
I said media outlet, not tinfoil hat-wearing idiot website
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By the way, it doesn't matter about the "Geneva Convention" or anything else. All lesser means were not exhausted and no one was in immediate danger.
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I guess the police should just become the firemen in Fahrenheit 451. Might as well just start burning places down anywhere a suspected criminal is located.
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Just heard, they may try to deny the two cleaning women the reward money.
their mistake, so they need to pay.
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and no answer...
No modern means to protect yourself. No police, and damn sure no "pit bulls",
I guess E-Kul wants everybody to protect themselves using fire, swords and throwing knives (which the people can throw back)...or just run away.
No, modern civilisations need Police, no doubt about it, and highly effective Police force at that. But they need to be held accountable by the public, and they need to be of benefit to the community, not serve elitist agendas. And how do you propose the innocent civilians would defend themselves when the Police start shooting at them. As much as I like the idea of vigilante militant groups of civilians fighting the corrupt powers that be, you will be out-gunned every-time.
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I guess the police should just become the firemen in Fahrenheit 451. Might as well just start burning places down anywhere a suspected criminal is located.
yes, they should burn to the ground every spot they see a mass murderer run onto and not come out of. see we agree after all :)
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By the way, it doesn't matter about the "Geneva Convention" or anything else. No lesser means were exhausted and no one was in immediate danger.
LOL.....nice troll
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LOL at Alex Jones comments
"Dorner’s mistake in all this was not that he killed people, you see, it’s that he didn’t get enough voters to back him first. Once you get the voters behind you, you can kill anybody you want, with no legal recourse whatsoever."
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LOL.....nice troll
How so?
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Just heard, they may try to deny the two cleaning women the reward money.
yes i heard the same thing this morning , something about they can only give them at reward money if they were brought him in to serve his justice in court
as if its the women fault they burned that fucker alive, either way fucking rats dont get shit
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yes i heard the same thing this morning , something about they can only give them at reward money if they were brought him in to serve his justice in court
as if its the women fault they burned that fucker alive, either way fucking rats dont get shit
God Bless. That's the angle they're trying to use? Man, I've heard it all.
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can anyone answer me the question ....if these cops supposedly broke international law and police procedure, and commited a heniuos crime....why is NONE of this language being used on any news channel?
How is it that Getbig knows all about this stuff, and is up in arms...but CNN has no clue?
lmao..,
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Nice Guy Dorner :D
A man identified as Rick Heltebrake, who works at a Boy Scout camp in the Big Bear area, told KTLA-TV News that Dorner stole his truck from him at gunpoint.
Heltebrake said Dorner came right to the point: "He said, 'I don't want to hurt you. Just get out of the truck and start walking up the road.'" He asked if he could get his dog out of the back. Dorner said okay, but don't take time to get a leash.
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They do NOT want to give the reward.
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They do NOT want to give the reward.
If they can get away with it...
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Nice Guy Dorner :D
A man identified as Rick Heltebrake, who works at a Boy Scout camp in the Big Bear area, told KTLA-TV News that Dorner stole his truck from him at gunpoint.
Heltebrake said Dorner came right to the point: "He said, 'I don't want to hurt you. Just get out of the truck and start walking up the road.'" He asked if he could get his dog out of the back. Dorner said okay, but don't take time to get a leash.
I hope this guy gets the $1,000,000 reward, but something tells me he will probably get arrested for something or other and get no reward.
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God Bless. That's the angle they're trying to use? Man, I've heard it all.
yea some thing about Rewards are only paid out to those that assist in the apprehension and conviction of the criminal
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Nice Guy Dorner :D
A man identified as Rick Heltebrake, who works at a Boy Scout camp in the Big Bear area, told KTLA-TV News that Dorner stole his truck from him at gunpoint.
Heltebrake said Dorner came right to the point: "He said, 'I don't want to hurt you. Just get out of the truck and start walking up the road.'" He asked if he could get his dog out of the back. Dorner said okay, but don't take time to get a leash.
i said this earlier, Ill say it again. i persoally know 2 people who worked with Dorner at LAPD. both said he was truely a good guy. loved ths gym and "serving" the community.
Further, I think he was probably fucked by LAPD in that investigation. The cops are shady as hell. but once you start killing innocent people, nobody cares about how you got screwed in a personnell hearing, you are a dick and deserve to be burned to the ground
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yep, thats why the said "come out" before the burned his fat ass to the ground. problem solved
It should read on his death certificate assisted suicide if he's dead. But was there anyone else in the house when the cops decided to burn it down? And if so, how in the world could anyone outside the Hierarchy's police force be ok with that? In WACO they burnt down the building knowing the place was full of women and kids. And had no problem doing it. That's insane. And if they burnt down this house not knowing for sure Dorner was alone, that too is insane. And it may be insane even if they did know for sure Dorner was alone.
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i said this earlier, Ill say it again. i persoally know 2 people who worked with Dorner at LAPD. both said he was truely a good guy. loved ths gym and "serving" the community.
Further, I think he was probably fucked by LAPD in that investigation. The cops are shady as hell.
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news conference
tear gas commonly referred to as "burners"
we did not intentionally burn that cabin down
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they swear that they did not burn it down.
the videos all say different.
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news conference
tear gas commonly referred to as "burners"
we did not intentionally burn that cabin down
so, they didn't know the tear gas would have that effect and burn down the cabin
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No, modern civilisations need Police, no doubt about it, and highly effective Police force at that. But they need to be held accountable by the public, and they need to be of benefit to the community, not serve elitist agendas.
This. Some sense amongst your other drivel what gives?!!! ;D
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Nice Guy Dorner :D
A man identified as Rick Heltebrake, who works at a Boy Scout camp in the Big Bear area, told KTLA-TV News that Dorner stole his truck from him at gunpoint.
Heltebrake said Dorner came right to the point: "He said, 'I don't want to hurt you. Just get out of the truck and start walking up the road.'" He asked if he could get his dog out of the back. Dorner said okay, but don't take time to get a leash.
no animals were harmed in this incident beside Swine
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yea some thing about Rewards are only paid out to those that assist in the apprehension and conviction of the criminal
Which is a way to find someone whose identity is unknown, and that's why the inclusion of "and conviction of"
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news conference
tear gas commonly referred to as "burners"
we did not intentionally burn that cabin down
::) @ the nonsense excuse.
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In the police audio, which was broadcast on CBS affiliate KCAL-TV on Tuesday, frantic voices of officers can be heard, including one officer apparently saying "Burn it down" or "Burn him out," while another officer appears to shout, "F***ing burn this motherf****r!"
In addition, a video that has surfaced on YouTube appears to include another recording of police audio from Tuesday's standoff. In the audio, which could not be independently confirmed, a voice says, "We're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... Like we talked about."
A short while later a male voice says: "Seven burners deployed and we have a fire." A female voice then responds: "Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire." (Listen to the full audio here.)
Lending credence to the audio tapes is the reporting of journalist and author Max Blumenthal, who as The Guardian notes, was listening to the police scanners on Tuesday and live-tweeting what he heard.
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or wait until he wasnt looking and shoot him while hes in a car
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they are on video screaming that they are going to set him on fire and burn him. Then today they say they were never trying to set any fire nor were they ever trying to burn any thing.
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no animals were harmed in this incident beside Swine
If only he had not killed the innocents. Corrupt cops he could all day and I probably wouldn't care as much. It's sad really, he seemed mostly like a decent guy. It's terrible it went down the way it did. I wish he would have gotten some help
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If they knew the practice of burning was legal, they would come out and admit it. They know full well what they did was against protocol and law and now are trying to tap dance around it and claim they don`t know anything about fire or burning despite the actual audio tapes of them using the words fire, burn, plan and burn this M O T H E R F U C K E R down all in the same sentence.
Dorner wins again in the end.
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killing the kids was wrong. he should have only killed the cops that ruined him IF he was going to kill.
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Why couldn't Dorner just run out the front door once the fire started ???
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If they knew the practice of burning was legal, they would come out and admit it. They know full well what they did was against protocol and law and now are trying to tap dance around it and claim they don`t know anything about fire or burning despite the actual audio tapes of them using the words fire, burn, plan and burn this guy down all in the same sentence.
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This.
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they didn't intentionally burn it down, just like they didn't intentionally fire 50 rounds into the back of that Tacoma ::)
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they didn't intentionally burn it down, just like they didn't intentionally fire 50 rounds into the back of that Tacoma ::)
Exactly. I am not willing to give law enforcement such power and they should be held accountable whenver they step out of the bounds of the law.
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they beat up and shot innocent people who were NO match for Dorner (they did NOT match Dorner).
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If they knew the practice of burning was legal, they would come out and admit it. They know full well what they did was against protocol and law and now are trying to tap dance around it and claim they don`t know anything about fire or burning despite the actual audio tapes of them using the words fire, burn, plan and burn this M O T H E R F U C K E R down all in the same sentence.
Dorner wins again in the end.
they said "we have a fire"...because there was a fire. not one person said, "we are going to light the cabin on fire now"......"The Burn" is police terminolocy for deploying tear gas, as was explained.
and some excited cop yelling "burn motherfucker" at a house THAT IS ALREADY BURNING doesn't mean dick except he isn't blind and he saw a fire
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they didn't intentionally burn it down, just like they didn't intentionally fire 50 rounds into the back of that Tacoma ::)
Maybe they were outraged over a 7 minute video of the prophet Mohammed?
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Exactly. I am not willing to give law enforcement such power and they should be held accountable whenver they step out of the bounds of the law.
well yeah, they should be help accountable 10X more than if a civilian were to do the same thing, which unfortunately isnt the way it really is. its basically a massive breach of trust.
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This does not apply to Dorner
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they said "we have a fire"...because there was a fire. not one person said, "we are going to light the cabin on fire now"......"The Burn" is police terminolocy for deploying tear gas, as was explained.
and some excited cop yelling "burn motherfucker" at a house THAT IS ALREADY BURNING doesn't mean dick except he isn't blind and he saw a fire
So who started the fire? ???
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Maybe they were outraged over a 7 minute video of the prophet Mohammed?
cant blame them who wouldn't be ;D ;D
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So who started the fire? ???
the elements
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The Christopher Dorner Fan Club Is More Mainstream Than You'd Think
Online support for the killer has crept into political subcultures on the right and left — and even on to cable news.
"This has been an important public conversation that we've had, about police brutality, about police corruption, about state violence," Hill said during a CNN segment about the burgeoning online support for Dorner. "As far as Dorner himself goes, he's been like a real life superhero to many people," Hill said. "Now don't get me wrong, what he did is awful, killing innocent people is bad...Many people aren't rooting for him to kill innocent people, they're rooting for somebody who was wronged to get a kind of revenge against the system. It's almost like watching Django Unchained in real life, it's kind of exciting."
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So who started the fire? ???
Billy Joel.
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lmfao ^
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Billy Joel.
;D beat me to it
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i hate to agree with the coo coo crazies here. but to name something "the burner" and not excpect it to burn is pretty silly.
ps fuck him, im glad he burned :D
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Billy Joel.
5 out of 5 stars
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Billy Joel.
Best post on the thread.. ;D
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Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song
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the elements
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Lightning Strike? I don`t think there were any storms were in the area and given the location, a forest fire from a strike is unlikely.
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The Christopher Dorner Fan Club Is More Mainstream Than You'd Think
Online support for the killer has crept into political subcultures on the right and left — and even on to cable news.
"This has been an important public conversation that we've had, about police brutality, about police corruption, about state violence," Hill said during a CNN segment about the burgeoning online support for Dorner. "As far as Dorner himself goes, he's been like a real life superhero to many people," Hill said. "Now don't get me wrong, what he did is awful, killing innocent people is bad...Many people aren't rooting for him to kill innocent people, they're rooting for somebody who was wronged to get a kind of revenge against the system. It's almost like watching Django Unchained in real life, it's kind of exciting."
I told you, people were viewing this as entertainment. A real "reality show"...
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starting to gain some steam , but like everything in America, nobody will remember in a few days
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html)
whos James Holmes again??
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i hate to agree with the coo coo crazies here. but to name something "the burner" and not excpect it to burn is pretty silly.
ps fuck him, im glad he burned :D
Hey man i'm not fucking stupid, the point I've been trying to make is they don't seem all that concerned about it, for people who spposedly just illegally burned someone to death in front of the national media.
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Billy Joel.
Isn't the song titled "We Didn't Start The Fire"?
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html)
"Ok, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... like we talked about."
"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."
"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."
These purported police commands come from 5 minutes and 17 seconds of audio allegedly recorded off law enforcement radios during Tuesday’s tense standoff between SWAT officers and suspected serial killer Christopher Dorner.
The audio, posted to YouTube, has fueled speculation that authorities may have purposely started the fire to either kill Dorner or force him to surrender.
On Wednesday, law enforcement sources confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that officers did throw incendiary tear gas canisters into the mountain cabin before it caught fire. According to the Times:
SWAT officers surrounding the cabin were under a "constant barrage of gunfire," one source said. “He put himself in that position. There weren’t a lot of options.” Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.
Dorner, a disgruntled ex-LAPD officer accused of killing four people in the past week, never emerged from the charred cabin near Big Bear Lake, Calif.
The coroner’s office is studying the remains of a burned body found in the basement, but an anonymous official told The Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license issued to Christopher Dorner, were recovered.
An exact cause of death for the body has not been revealed. On the YouTube audio, an unidentified voice says, “It sounds like one shot fired from inside the residence” about the time a police demolition vehicle was tearing down the cabin’s walls and the house became inflamed.
“We have fire in the front. He might come out the back,” a voice says on the YouTube recording.
"Fire doing quite well. I'm going to let it go," a law enforcement officer also said, according to a Yahoo News reporter also monitoring the San Bernardino sheriff’s radio traffic.
A smart move, S.W.A.T. Magazine editor Denny Hansen told Yahoo News.
“You really can’t send firemen up there if the subject is still alive and may shoot them,” said Hansen, himself a former tactical officer. “They may have believed that he started the fire as a diversionary tactic to escape.”
Veteran police consultant Chuck Drago told Yahoo News that he interprets the officers’ discussion of “burners” to be the tear gas canisters that were used.
“They are not meant to cause fire, but they can,” he said. “Sometimes you have a lot of options at your disposal, and sometimes you're limited.”
With nightfall approaching and Dorner having already vowed to seek revenge by unleashing "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare," Drago said the officers must have decided that a possible blaze was worth the risk to accomplish their mission.
“They had to move pretty quickly in this situation,” he said.
Hansen scoffs at anyone who thinks otherwise.
“I’ve already heard some people say, ‘Well, they burned him alive without a trial,’” Hansen said. “There are always going to be conspiracy theories.”
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I told you, people were viewing this as entertainment. A real "reality show"...
I said that too. The OJ thing might have started it all
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I think what's upsetting people and giving Dorner (totally undeserved) support is the WAY the LAPD have handled this. THeir shoot first ask questions later method has been a physical and public relations disaster, they can't expect public support when they shoot the wrong colored car, 2 women and probably half a dozen large squirrels when they're looking for a 270 pound black man. They are now being held accountable for acting like cowboys in the wild west and the public by and large feels this style of "policing" is totally unacceptable. How much better would it have been to have arrested Dorner and put him on trial?
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Billy Joel.
I agree. However, I think most did not understand what you were really driving at with this-It was always burning Since the world's been turning.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/cause-cabin-fire-fuels-debate-christopher-dorner-standoff-222441723.html)
"Ok, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... like we talked about."
"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."
"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."
These purported police commands come from 5 minutes and 17 seconds of audio allegedly recorded off law enforcement radios during Tuesday’s tense standoff between SWAT officers and suspected serial killer Christopher Dorner.
The audio, posted to YouTube, has fueled speculation that authorities may have purposely started the fire to either kill Dorner or force him to surrender.
On Wednesday, law enforcement sources confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that officers did throw incendiary tear gas canisters into the mountain cabin before it caught fire. According to the Times:
SWAT officers surrounding the cabin were under a "constant barrage of gunfire," one source said. “He put himself in that position. There weren’t a lot of options.” Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.Dorner, a disgruntled ex-LAPD officer accused of killing four people in the past week, never emerged from the charred cabin near Big Bear Lake, Calif.
The coroner’s office is studying the remains of a burned body found in the basement, but an anonymous official told The Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license issued to Christopher Dorner, were recovered.
An exact cause of death for the body has not been revealed. On the YouTube audio, an unidentified voice says, “It sounds like one shot fired from inside the residence” about the time a police demolition vehicle was tearing down the cabin’s walls and the house became inflamed.
“We have fire in the front. He might come out the back,” a voice says on the YouTube recording.
"Fire doing quite well. I'm going to let it go," a law enforcement officer also said, according to a Yahoo News reporter also monitoring the San Bernardino sheriff’s radio traffic.
A smart move, S.W.A.T. Magazine editor Denny Hansen told Yahoo News.
“You really can’t send firemen up there if the subject is still alive and may shoot them,” said Hansen, himself a former tactical officer. “They may have believed that he started the fire as a diversionary tactic to escape.”
Veteran police consultant Chuck Drago told Yahoo News that he interprets the officers’ discussion of “burners” to be the tear gas canisters that were used.
“They are not meant to cause fire, but they can,” he said. “Sometimes you have a lot of options at your disposal, and sometimes you're limited.”
With nightfall approaching and Dorner having already vowed to seek revenge by unleashing "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare," Drago said the officers must have decided that a possible blaze was worth the risk to accomplish their mission.
“They had to move pretty quickly in this situation,” he said.
Hansen scoffs at anyone who thinks otherwise.
“I’ve already heard some people say, ‘Well, they burned him alive without a trial,’” Hansen said. “There are always going to be conspiracy theories.”
i guess that covers "lesser measures" and "immediate danger" :)
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In before Benchmaster claims he was the sniper who took out Dorner.
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In before Benchmaster claims he was the sniper who took out Dorner.
:D 69 pages and nobody came up with that.
good work donkeyfuckfan
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I said that too. The OJ thing might have started it all
It is entertainment to the majority of people as they will be and are completely unaffected by Dorner and everything surrounding this issue. And so it should be as this is hardly "National" or even relevant "News" for most of America let alone the World. We all like a good show and that is what the News does best, provide great entertainment.
If it bleeds it leads. If the ratings weren`t there, there would be no interest. They float tons of stories and kill them quick when there is little to no interest. Their job is to sell ads and entertain, nothing else.
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I agree. However, I think most did not understand what you were really driving at with this-It was always burning Since the world's been turning.
Agreed.
/bench
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what do u guys think will happen if the forensics report comes up saying that dorner was not the body found in the cabin?
would that ever be revealed to the public? assuming it wouldn't, who will be tasked to find and terminate him?
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what do u guys think will happen if the forensics report comes up saying that dorner was not the body found in the cabin?
would that ever be revealed to the public? assuming it wouldn't, who will be tasked to find and terminate him?
the A team
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Who will they get to play the lead in the true to life Movie?, I call Jamie Foxx, dude just need to put on some pounds and the role is his.
(http://www.standard.co.uk/news/standard-pictures/article7323677.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Cunning+Jamie+Foxx+smiles+with+his+Breakthrough+Actor+award+for+his+portrayal+of+music+legend+Ray+Charles+in+the+upcoming+film+Ray+%0A%3Cbr%3E%3C-br%3E+%C3%82%C2%A9+Reuters)(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/983891/thumbs/o-CHRISTOPHER-DORNER-LAPD-facebook.jpg)
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Hell Naw!
either Charlie Sheen or Robert Downey Jr
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the A team
that is exactly what i thought
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Hell Naw!
either Charlie Sheen or Robert Downey Jr
(http://viewsfromthesofa.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/downey.jpg)
Greatest black actor of our time. You'd never catch him in a Tyler perry movie.
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i guess that covers "lesser measures" and "immediate danger" :)
So the SWAT Team, surrounding the cabin, behind total armor, with the ability to shoot while fully protected by armor, were under immediate and significant danger of serious bodily injury or death, and the supposed use of a single canister of traditional gas had exhausted "all lesser means"?
There is no question, the argument will be that the incendiary devices were intended to provide "lesser means", and the fire was an unfortunate accident.
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I agree. However, I think most did not understand what you were really driving at with this-It was always burning Since the world's been turning.
Nobody needs your help putz. Try to realize.
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Its ASH WEDNESDAY, perfect timing that piece of shit burned to ashes.
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(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site205/2013/0213/20130213_045443_BN14-MANHUNT_cabin-06_JV_disp.jpg)
it seems that up to the last minute they gave him the option of surrendering- spot the ladder
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they said "we have a fire"...because there was a fire. not one person said, "we are going to light the cabin on fire now"......"The Burn" is police terminolocy for deploying tear gas, as was explained.
and some excited cop yelling "burn motherfucker" at a house THAT IS ALREADY BURNING doesn't mean dick except he isn't blind and he saw a fire
About 10 yrs ago a club here in Austin called Midtown caught fire. It was an african american based club. The club and parking lot were a hotbed of illegal activity from shootings, stabbings, fights, drugs and gang activity. Our calls for service there were 10 times what a club that size should have garnered. When it caught fire, and after everyone was out, cops who work that area sent messages joking about it to each other. Burn Baby Burn, Disco Inferno just happened to be visible on a police unit MDC and a savy news guy caught it on camera. Heads rolled, people got in a lot of trouble and lesson learned. Don't say anything that you will regret in the light of day... I guess this is their time to learn that lesson.
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So the SWAT Team, surrounding the cabin, behind total armor, with the ability to shoot while fully protected by armor, were under immediate and significant danger of serious bodily injury or death, and the supposed use of a single canister of traditional gas had exhausted "all lesser means"?
There is no question, the argument will be that the incendiary devices were intended to provide "lesser means", and the fire was an unfortunate accident.
Whats really cool about the whole thing is... it is irrelevant what they do, there will always be people who won't agree with it.
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So the SWAT Team, surrounding the cabin, behind total armor, with the ability to shoot while fully protected by armor, were under immediate and significant danger of serious bodily injury or death, and the supposed use of a single canister of traditional gas had exhausted "all lesser means"?
There is no question, the argument will be that the incendiary devices were intended to provide "lesser means", and the fire was an unfortunate accident.
The "incendiary device" is CS gas. Their first course of action may have been deploying OC gas. It is the most commonly used gas these days. The down side is that it is not as strong as CS. CS burns in part so someone cant pick it up easily and toss it back out. It is rarely used because it soaks in to the fabric and materials and it is almost impossible to get out of things once it has been exposed. It is not like they deployed an explosive.
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Justice was served. Next....
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:D
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dorner is still alive, the drivers license found in the cabin was not dorners, reports are saying
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The "incendiary device" is CS gas. Their first course of action may have been deploying OC gas. It is the most commonly used gas these days. The down side is that it is not as strong as CS. CS burns in part so someone cant pick it up easily and toss it back out. It is rarely used because it soaks in to the fabric and materials and it is almost impossible to get out of things once it has been exposed. It is not like they deployed an explosive.
LOL....why would you even give that moronic post a serious reply?
yeah, a trained soldier opening up on you with a fully automatic weapon at close range isn't dangerous at all, we have our body armor on. let's just walk right up to him and slap the cuffs on ::)
You gotta love it when people just throw reality out the window to try and "win" an internet debate
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groink i guess you sympathize with police and law enforcement, the line in the sand has been drawn, real americans and real patriots support dorner, do you sympathize with these pussified bitch ass law enforcement agencies, just curious.
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;D ;D
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Dorner was a good man
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che you are correct dorner was a good man, many believe this also
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che you are correct dorner was a good man, many believe this also
Dorner was a hero and a misunderstood crusader .
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I can't read all this shit... Did the police set the fire? Is Dorner dead?
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pig sympathizers LOL
he seemed like a great guy that was just pushed over the edge, just had a higher opinion of himself than most people and was willing to die for the cause.
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Dorner = Bertil Fox. Could have been great but just ended up dead.
Bertil Fox isn't dead.
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pig sympathizers LOL
he seemed like a great guy that was just pushed over the edge, just had a higher opinion of himself than most people and was willing to die for the cause.
Chris was a guy who was approachable, had a great sense of humor, fun to be around, intelligent, good conversationalist, the kind of guy most people would want to hang out with and want to spend time with .
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pig sympathizers LOL
he seemed like a great guy that was just pushed over the edge, just had a higher opinion of himself than most people and was willing to die for the cause.
The only cause he died for was revenge. This whole situation was motivated by a personal gripe and has nothing to do with injustice. He didn't kill any of the cops he claimed were abusive. He didn't even kill the cop who he made the complaint about that got him fired. He killed an untrained woman, the daughter of the man who defended him against the LAPD and her fiance who had nothing to do with him what-so-ever. He's no hero.
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The only cause he died for was revenge. This whole situation was motivated by a personal gripe and has nothing to do with injustice. He didn't kill any of the cops he claimed were abusive. He didn't even kill the cop who he made the complaint about that got him fired. He killed an untrained woman, the daughter of the man who defended him against the LAPD and her fiance who had nothing to do with him what-so-ever. He's no hero.
a severely misguided hero.. ?
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The "incendiary device" is CS gas. Their first course of action may have been deploying OC gas. It is the most commonly used gas these days. The down side is that it is not as strong as CS. CS burns in part so someone cant pick it up easily and toss it back out. It is rarely used because it soaks in to the fabric and materials and it is almost impossible to get out of things once it has been exposed. It is not like they deployed an explosive.
Yes, the incendiary devices were gas.
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he would have been a shoe in for a couple of sit down interviews with opera. prime time
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LOL....why would you even give that moronic post a serious reply?
Maybe he thought you missed it.
yeah, a trained soldier opening up on you with a fully automatic weapon at close range isn't dangerous at all, we have our body armor on.
They had far more than body armor. They approached the situation absolutely, positively, and completely prepared. Please don't abandon reality to try and "win" an internet argument.
let's just walk right up to him and slap the cuffs on ::)
I must have missed where that suggestion was made. Can you link me?
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he is possibly still alive
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dorner is still alive, the drivers license found in the cabin was not dorners, reports are saying
Where did you get this, cswol?
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it was on some link i read about 2 hours ago, let me find it http://www.thesource.com/articles/267376?thesource-prod=joekic3177gcpksc4qmmpjmcj4
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also many believe that he has an accomplice, i think he is still alive
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RIP Chris Dorner
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They had far more than body armor. They approached the situation absolutely, positively, and completely prepared. Please don't abandon reality to try and "win" an internet argument
last time i checked getting shot in the face still hurt
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I must have missed where that suggestion was made. Can you link me?
i'm suggesting it....there is no imminent danger, what was to stop them from just arresting him, he was standing right there ? i wonder WHAT could possibly have deterred them and had them taking cover ::)
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Lol if nothing else it's worth having you here just for the photoshops!
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This should answer your question.
all anyone sees is my gigantic fucking arm, thanks for the publicity :D
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So is he alive or dead?
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all anyone sees is my gigantic fucking arm, thanks for the publicity :D
LOL Only you could see a silver lining in a HOMO Photoshop of yourself. I must admit, your arm does look huge in that pic. I almost feel guilty photo-shopping you, as you have redeeming qualities and I respect your Chutzpah. NO HOMO! I also think you genuinely get pissed of with it, unlike t-bombz and some of the other getbiggers, and I almost feel bad for it. I man of your vintage really deserves more respect.
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So is he alive or dead?
As long as you continue to post, his memory will never die.
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So is he alive or dead?
It's a photochop brah.
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So is he alive or dead?
Picture is faked. The dumbass misspelled "confirmed".
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We don't have to see shit in black & white.
Dude went off the deep end, unjustifiably targeted innocents, was a massive fail courier regarding his mythical tactical skills, and didn't have any kind of a plan that would let him see the changes he hoped for effected. Yet he struck a public chord with his claims, managed to include a few sentences that resonated with me in that sea of nonsense, and might have been a guy like you or me who expected justice from a system that promised it and, by design, never delivered.
I'd like to know what set him off. The LAPD thing was years ago. His 'manifesto' seems like it was written the evening before (which is kind of a clue, in retrospect, as to what kind of well considered plan he was following). I heard a theory that he got declined by the naval reserve for reenlistment based on his LAPD firing? I'd guess something more personal though. Something made him decide there was nothing tethering him to the planet anymore. I've been there. Plenty have. I'd like to know what it was for him.
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Reports say he's alive and posting on ripped.com
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He got banned from getbig.com
I'd like to know what set him off. The LAPD thing was years ago. His 'manifesto' seems like it was written the evening before (which is kind of a clue, in retrospect, as to what kind of well considered plan he was following). I heard a theory that he got declined by the naval reserve for reenlistment based on his LAPD firing? I'd guess something more personal though. Something made him decide there was nothing tethering him to the planet anymore. I've been there. Plenty have. I'd like to know what it was for him.
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Reports say he's alive and posting on spam
Nope. According to Dorner he 'died a long time ago.' Dude lifted that line straight from Kobain, who did the better version.
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This should answer your question.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459102.0;attach=505403;image)
That's one GIGANTIC fucking arm!
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We all have our tipping point. But make no mistake, Dorner was against police injustice and as evidenced in this pic, he was against racial intolerance.
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a severely misguided hero.. ?
no, just a murderer
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We don't have to see shit in black & white.
Dude went off the deep end, unjustifiably targeted innocents, was a massive fail courier regarding his mythical tactical skills, and didn't have any kind of a plan that would let him see the changes he hoped for effected. Yet he struck a public chord with his claims, managed to include a few sentences that resonated with me in that sea of nonsense, and might have been a guy like you or me who expected justice from a system that promised it and, by design, never delivered.
I'd like to know what set him off. The LAPD thing was years ago. His 'manifesto' seems like it was written the evening before (which is kind of a clue, in retrospect, as to what kind of well considered plan he was following). I heard a theory that he got declined by the naval reserve for reenlistment based on his LAPD firing? I'd guess something more personal though. Something made him decide there was nothing tethering him to the planet anymore. I've been there. Plenty have. I'd like to know what it was for him.
He watche the movie quintan tarantino movie D'jango unchained that probably inspired him to fight back
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Dorner was a bloated fat negro who tried to project that he was Mr wonderful and perfect, and could not handle any criticism of himself.
I heard a report that he freaked out on his instructor in the academy for pointing out the he would be better at running long distances if he dropped some weight, and he also lost it and threw a tantrum in Scuba school becuse he wasn't a strong swimmer. he was wound WAY too tight and many people have said it. You know how hard it is to get FIRED from the force? Dude was a serious round peg in a square hole..and they knew it and jettisoned his awkward, fat ass.
Typical overacheiver who thinks he's better than everyone, when i see those pics of him I see a fake ass smile of someone trying to project an image. And He hated the fact he was a chocolate face, so he hated himself on top off all of his other massive insecurities.
All funning aside, a small part of me feels bad for the guy.. He doesn't seem like an inherently evil man, he obviously needed serious help and let himself get to the point where killing innocent people seemed justified and the "right" thing to do.
That being said, he was a grown ass man who commited cold blooded murder of four completely innocent people. You guys can "root" for him like idiots, the last cop he killed had a 7 year old daughter and a 4 month old son , one will never see her dad again and one will never even know his father...all becuase dad was trying to do his job, and a fucking psycho cut him down with a submachinegun... Yeah, Dorner was a real hero.
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Seems more like a Leonard from Full Metal Jacket. Super sweetpea naive, then super uncompromising and wrathful.
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Dorner was a bloated fat negro who tried to project that he was Mr wonderful and perfect, and could not handle any criticism of himself.
I heard a report that he freaked out on his instructor in the academy for pointing out the he would be better at running long distances if he dropped some weight, and he also lost it and threw a tantrum in Scuba school becuse he wasn't a strong swimmer. he was wound WAY too tight and many people have said it. You know how hard it is to get FIRED from the force? Dude was a serious round peg in a square hole..and they knew it and jettisoned his awkward, fat ass.
Typical overacheiver who thinks he's better than everyone, when i see those pics of him I see a fake ass smile of someone trying to project an image. And He hated the fact he was a chocolate face, so he hated himself on top off all of his other massive insecurities.
All funning aside, a small part of me feels bad for the guy.. He doesn't seem like an inherently evil man, he obviously needed serious help and let himself get to the point where killing innocent people seemed justified and the "right" thing to do.
That being said, he was a grown ass man who commited cold blooded murder of four completely innocent people. You guys can "root" for him like idiots, the last cop he killed had a 7 year old daughter and a 4 month old son , one will never see her dad again and one will never even know his father...all becuase dad was trying to do his job, and a fucking psycho cut him down with a submachinegun... Yeah, Dorner was a real hero.
You do know he didn't have a submachine gun right?
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You do know he didn't have a submachine gun right?
sure sounded like automatic gunfire to me on those audio tapes, unless he's got the fastest trigger finger in the world
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sure sounded like automatic gunfire to me on those audio tapes, unless he's got the fastest trigger finger in the world
He was the only one shooting? If you've ever been to a gun range it can sound insane when a shitload of people are firing at the same time.
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LAPD just released this photo of Dorner on his first day on duty:
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He was the only one shooting? If you've ever been to a gun range it can sound insane when a shitload of people are firing at the same time.
i know what an auomatic weapon sounds like. in the first audio tape where the cop says "hey you, get over here" he opens fire on full automatic, it's as plain as day dude.
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this Fire story is all over the news. some predicted it would be limited to conspiracy theory message boards.
sheriffs dept doing exactly what they do... deny, deny, deny.
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We don't have to see shit in black & white.
Dude went off the deep end, unjustifiably targeted innocents, was a massive fail courier regarding his mythical tactical skills, and didn't have any kind of a plan that would let him see the changes he hoped for effected. Yet he struck a public chord with his claims, managed to include a few sentences that resonated with me in that sea of nonsense, and might have been a guy like you or me who expected justice from a system that promised it and, by design, never delivered.
I'd like to know what set him off. The LAPD thing was years ago. His 'manifesto' seems like it was written the evening before (which is kind of a clue, in retrospect, as to what kind of well considered plan he was following). I heard a theory that he got declined by the naval reserve for reenlistment based on his LAPD firing? I'd guess something more personal though. Something made him decide there was nothing tethering him to the planet anymore. I've been there. Plenty have. I'd like to know what it was for him.
I think he'd recently exhausted all appeals.
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Being outraged at the behavior of the police shouldn't equal a backing for Dorner. I'd hope a person would see that.
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last time i checked getting shot in the face still hurt
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i'm suggesting it....there is no imminent danger, what was to stop them from just arresting him, he was standing right there ? i wonder WHAT could possibly have deterred them and had them taking cover ::)
So we have a situation where he is contained in a house, and the officers outside are behind full armor, and have the ability to shoot while protected by full armor.
Are we on the same page, so far?
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i know what an auomatic weapon sounds like. in the first audio tape where the cop says "hey you, get over here" he opens fire on full automatic, it's as plain as day dude.
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So we have a situation where he is contained in a house, and the officers outside are behind full armor, and have the ability to shoot while protected by full armor.
Are we on the same page, so far?
yes, are we on the same page that bullets are dangerous and can hit you in the face ? and the guy was a trained marksman ?
and please show me where every officer on the scene was in "full armor", the SWAT team had armor.
also, remember the LA bank Robbery where the guy in FULL ARMOR was shot and killed by police ?
It doesn't make you impervious to bullets, there are plenty of vital areas still exposed.
Keep it up, you are amusing and i like winning arguments
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yes, are we on the same page that bullets are dangerous and can hit you in the face ? and the guy was a trained marksman ?
and please show me where every officer on the scene was in "full armor", the SWAT team had armor.
also, remember the LA bank Robbery where the guy in FULL ARMOR was shot and killed by police ?
It doesn't make you impervious to bullets, there are plenty of vital areas still exposed.
Keep it up, you are amusing and i like winning arguments
Groink, the idea is to be behind armor--not simply wear armor. They use modular armored plates. The vehicles themselves are armored. There was probably more armor available in that location than anywhere else in the entire state.
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So it seems the conflict is whether the deliberate use of fire is ok. If this person was shooting, then deadly force, itself, was obviously green-lighted.
If the person was positioned so his bullets had a path toward the cops, then he would be positioned in such a way to be taken out, which is what the story says happened to him by sniper.
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Groink, the idea is to be behind armor--not simply wear armor. They use modular armored plates. The vehicles themselves are armored. There was probably more armor available in that location than anywhere else in the entire state.
Ive seen plenty of pictures of regular old cops there, well within range of a rifle. are they not in danger ?
not every cop is SWAT assault and hiding behind a shield.
You know what i think,? is that the bloodlust of some people here was not satisfied. if he would have killed four or five guys in a 'blaze of glory" gunfight before they got him, then it would have been a "clean kill"
But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
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Ive seen plenty of pictures of regular old cops there, well within range of a rifle. are they not in danger ?
not every cop is SWAT assault and hiding behind a shield.
You know what i think,? is that the bloodlust of some people here was not satisfied. if he would have killed four or five guys in a 'blaze of glory" gunfight before they got him, then it would have been a "clean kill"
But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
It's a tv show for a lot of folks. They didn't like how the series ended.
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But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
Damn,all thats missing from this is the part where he stopped at KFC!
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Damn,all thats missing from this is the part where he stopped at KFC!
He got his extra crispy in the end
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Damn,all thats missing from this is the part where he stopped at KFC!
early police reports indicate empty containers of Welch's grape soda and chicken bones were strewn aboiut the house.
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early police reports indicate empty containers of Welch's grape soda and chicken bones were strewn aboiut the house.
And a fat,pregnant white girl.
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LAPD just released this photo of Dorner on his first day on duty:
(http://i48.tinypic.com/rmme4g.jpg)
Lol
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But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
Groinks love of the LAPD cock is embarrassing, like it is some how equated with brain surgery for hundreds of heavily armed men, who have every mechanical and tactical advantage at their disposal to take out a lone gun men. And the best these rednecks could come up with is, burn that mother-fucker, a technique that was used long before they started burning witches at the stake. The whole situation exposed the Police for what they are, incredibly stupid, highly incompetent and essentially organised criminals. They shot at no less the 3 innocent civilians, two of them women, which, when your consider the target is a man, is embarrassing to say the least. if Groink finds these Police methodical and intelligent, I hate to think what he considers RIDICULOUSLY STUPID.
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And a fat,pregnant white girl.
some watermelon seeds and rindes were also found
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Ive seen plenty of pictures of regular old cops there, well within range of a rifle. are they not in danger ?
not every cop is SWAT assault and hiding behind a shield.
Any person that allowed himself to be unshielded must have been seeking a solid gold Darwin. Any commander there would have wanted to shoot the person, himself.
You know what i think,? is that the bloodlust of some people here was not satisfied. if he would have killed four or five guys in a 'blaze of glory" gunfight before they got him, then it would have been a "clean kill"
But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
Myself, I'm thinking it's the fire that puts people off.
But I get what you're saying...believe me.
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Groink, the idea is to be behind armor--not simply wear armor. They use modular armored plates. The vehicles themselves are armored. There was probably more armor available in that location than anywhere else in the entire state.
The Police didn't use armor to protect Dorner , I hope this helps.
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The Police didn't use armor to protect Dorner , I hope this helps.
I don't know what you're saying.
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some watermelon seeds and rindes were also found
If powder from doughnuts was found then we would know for sure it was a setup by some white cops ;D
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i know what an auomatic weapon sounds like. in the first audio tape where the cop says "hey you, get over here" he opens fire on full automatic, it's as plain as day dude.
??? If anyone had automatics it was the cops.
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Ive seen plenty of pictures of regular old cops there, well within range of a rifle. are they not in danger ?
not every cop is SWAT assault and hiding behind a shield.
You know what i think,? is that the bloodlust of some people here was not satisfied. if he would have killed four or five guys in a 'blaze of glory" gunfight before they got him, then it would have been a "clean kill"
But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
The axle broke on that Titan. If he would have tried to replace it, it probably would have taken a few days or weeks to get the parts drop shipped and then another couple of days if not weeks (if he didn`t have experience fixing broken axles) trying to fix it on his own. If he had access to the internet, he could shave off a few days perhaps at best. His Titan was probably still under warranty, so he could have gotten it covered. No idea though if he had road side assistance or not.
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So we have a situation where he is contained in a house, and the officers outside are behind full armor, and have the ability to shoot while protected by full armor.
Are we on the same page, so far?
No..not really. Been to a few SWAT calls. Not everyone is in an armored vehicle. Most are behind trees or around corners or behind vehicles. To shoot you have to expose yourself. Most ballistic vests stop handgun rounds pretty well, large caliber rifles, not so much. And it doesnt cover your neck and a lot of your face. Entry under the arm pit isn't covered either. So Jack, your illusion of cops being completely protected by full armor is misleading.
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No..not really. Been to a few SWAT calls. Not everyone is in an armored vehicle. Most are behind trees or around corners or behind vehicles. To shoot you have to expose yourself. Most ballistic vests stop handgun rounds pretty well, large caliber rifles, not so much. And it doesnt cover your neck and a lot of your face. Entry under the arm pit isn't covered either. So Jack, your illusion of cops being completely protected by full armor is misleading.
Just so we're clear...this situation wasn't similar to one where police are gunfighting with someone in an alley. This was a situation where the subject was contained in a house, completely surrounded, and there was an absolute flood of law enforcement, who had been in the area for a considerable amount of time, with full knowledge of who this person was. Would you disagree with any of this?
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they could have starved him out, dude looked like he loved his food.
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Just so we're clear...this situation wasn't similar to one where police are gunfighting with someone in an alley. This was a situation where an armed and extremely dangerous criminal was contained in a house, completely surrounded, and there was an absolute flood of law enforcement, who had been in the area for a considerable amount of time, with full knowledge of who this person was. Would you disagree with any of this?
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Just so we're clear...this situation wasn't similar to one where police are gunfighting with someone in an alley. This was a situation where the subject was contained in a house, completely surrounded, and there was an absolute flood of law enforcement, who had been in the area for a considerable amount of time, with full knowledge of who this person was. Would you disagree with any of this?
what does any of that have to do with the fact that there were plenty of officers who were there, that weren't even SWAT and were well within range of a rifle..on TOP of the fact that body armor doesn't make you impervious to bullets, like you keep trying to comvince it does.
just get to youir fucking point already,I'm bored now.
to review.
you are WRONG, they exhausted lesser means, they tried negotiating, tried standard tear gas, didn't work..he kept shooting at them.
you are WRONG....not everyone was behind a shield, not everyone had body armor..they were facing an armed and very dangerous suspect who had killed a cop less than an hour beforehand. they were in imminent danger, he was FIRING BULLETS at them and trying to kill them.
carry on
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what does any of that have to do with the fact that there were plenty of officers who were there, that weren't even SWAT and were well within range of a rifle..on TOP of the fact that body armor doesn't make you impervious to bullets, like you keep trying to comvince it does.
just get to youir fucking point already,I'm bored now.
to review.
you are WRONG, they exhausted lesser means, they tried negotiating, tried standard tear gas, didn't work..he kept shooting at them.
you are WRONG....not everyone was behind a shield, not everyone had body armor..they were facing an armed and very dangerous suspect who had killed a cop less than an hour beforehand. they were in imminent danger, he was FIRING BULLETS at them and trying to kill them.
carry on
So if you've become bored with it, could it be that you haven't thought it completely through?
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Ive seen plenty of pictures of regular old cops there, well within range of a rifle. are they not in danger ?
not every cop is SWAT assault and hiding behind a shield.
You know what i think,? is that the bloodlust of some people here was not satisfied. if he would have killed four or five guys in a 'blaze of glory" gunfight before they got him, then it would have been a "clean kill"
But being that he was exposed as a fat, lazy stupid negro...who's car broke down so he goes and get's caught stealing a PURPLE car, shoots an unsuspecting cop and then runs to the nearest house he can find....where he is then easily killed by methodical intelligent police, doesn't sit well with these folk and it's "not right"
I thought the police ID'd him... he fired 15 rounds but didn't hit them...
then he ran to the cabin and they chased him, at which point he was quicker.
I thought their best course of action - against a guy with rifles, etc - was to follow and radio it in. why in the world there were two of them creeping up around the cabin is beyone me
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dont worry groink, I suspect that jack t is a conspiracy theorist who cannot possibly accept rational explanations, they think that they "know" whats "really going on" because it elevates them from their normal failed humdrum existence's
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Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.
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So if you've become bored with it, could it be that you haven't thought it completely through?
No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous ::)....troll on
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Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.
Janet Reno and the Federal Government did it at WACO, nothing new.
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No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous ::)....troll on
Its dangerous, but it doesn`t give the Police the ability or right justification to burn things down. Why don`t the police have flamethrowers and grenades or land mines? Their use of force and how to deliver it has to be defined at some point and in this case, they overstepped it.
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I thought the police ID'd him... he fired 15 rounds but didn't hit them...
then he ran to the cabin and they chased him, at which point he was quicker.
I thought their best course of action - against a guy with rifles, etc - was to follow and radio it in. why in the world there were two of them creeping up around the cabin is beyone me
are we arguing semantics? he killed innocent cops. upside down, in a tree, suspecting, unsuspecting.
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Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.
Adonis never disappoints ;D
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No it's that I have COMPLETELY thought it through, i know exactly what I'm saying and state FACT....and i'm bored indulging these half baked arguments based on nonsense like cops being fired upon isn't dangerous ::)....troll on
So why do you think I said this:
So it seems the conflict is whether the deliberate use of fire is ok. If this person was shooting, then deadly force, itself, was obviously green-lighted.
If the person was positioned so his bullets had a path toward the cops, then he would be positioned in such a way to be taken out, which is what the story says happened to him by sniper.
You're so fucking bored, you aren't even reading the very thread you're fighting in.
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Adonis never disappoints ;D
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I thought the police ID'd him... he fired 15 rounds but didn't hit them...
then he ran to the cabin and they chased him, at which point he was quicker.
I thought their best course of action - against a guy with rifles, etc - was to follow and radio it in. why in the world there were two of them creeping up around the cabin is beyone me
Well, that's what I'm here for... If the officers radioed it in.. then sat in their patrol cars all nice and safe a distance away, Dormer might not just stop at the first place he came across. He might try and escape. Cabin has at least 4 corners... it was their job to try and keep him from getting away and likely murdering more people. It's a sucky job but somebody has to step away from the keyboard every once in awhile and do it.
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Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.
But, give police the ability to launch CS gas into a house containing a killer who is shooting at them and hell, they might live to tell about it..
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Well, that's what I'm here for... If the officers radioed it in.. then sat in their patrol cars all nice and safe a distance away, Dormer might not just stop at the first place he came across. He might try and escape. Cabin has at least 4 corners... it was their job to try and keep him from getting away and likely murdering more people. It's a sucky job but somebody has to step away from the keyboard every once in awhile and do it.
They get paid to do it. Why complain?
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dont worry groink, I suspect that jack t is a conspiracy theorist who cannot possibly accept rational explanations, they think that they "know" whats "really going on" because it elevates them from their normal failed humdrum existence's
Fuck off, you skinny queer. You've got enough enemies as it is.
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Fuck off, you skinny queer. You've got enough enemies as it is.
Epic response, true getbigger style.
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So why do you think I said this:
You're so fucking bored, you aren't even reading the very thread you're fighting in.
I saw that.. i wasresponding to your 12 other posts directed at me where you try and say there was no danger.
listen, it'spretty obvious at this point you are just asking loaded questions and will just move the goalposts as needed, I have no interest.
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Epic response, true getbigger style.
lol..Peace, Jeff :)
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They get paid to do it. Why complain?
I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"
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I saw that.. i wasresponding to your 12 other posts directed at me where you try and say there was no danger.
listen, it'spretty obvious at this point you are just asking loaded questions and will just move the goalposts as needed, I have no interest.
I'm not going back to find your original post on the subject, because you've probably changed it by now. You indicated that it was ok with you if the police decided to subvert law. That's how this discussion started.
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I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"
Right, but Mr. Agnostic called the job sucky and that "someone has to do it", so I felt like it was best to remind him that they are actually getting paid for it and it was always part of the job description. If they wanted a job delivering Pizzas, they should have gotten a job delivering Pizzas.
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I didn't hear of any officers complaining, I hear them yelling saying "burn motherfucker"
Responding to the situation in such a way would strongly suggest that there was a desire for the situation to occur. So you can see how easily suspicions would arise.
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Nice getbig censor. Mofo now equals "guy" ::) ::)
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Right, but Mr. Agnostic called the job sucky and that "someone has to do it", so I felt like it was best to remind him that they are actually getting paid for it and it was always part of the job description. If they wanted a job delivering Pizzas, they should have gotten a job delivering Pizzas.
absolutely my friend.
we have no quarrel.
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Responding to the situation in such a way would strongly suggest that there was a desire for the situation to occur. So you can see how easily suspicions would arise.
of course it would. it would behoove an intelligent individual to not get sucked into the hyperbole and look at things as they really occured and in the proper context.
EG...the cop who said that was watching the house burn minutes after the fire started and nothing to do with setting it. it was an emotional outburst, completely normal given the situation.
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of course it would. it would behoove an intelligent individual to not get sucked into the hyperbole and look at things as they really occured and in the proper context.
EG...the cop who said that was watching the house burn minutes after the fire started and nothing to do with setting it. it was an emotional outburst, completely normal given the situation.
If the situation includes a determination to kill this person in spectacular style, I would agree that it's normal.
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Groink, what's your opinion on the cops that opened fire on the newspaper women?
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If the situation includes a determination to kill this person in spectacular style, I would agree that it's normal.
this would be he goalpost thing i was talking about.
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Groink, what's your opinion on the cops that opened fire on the newspaper women?
they were incompetent, and scared to death faggots
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they were incompetent, and scared to death faggots
Can you think of any scenarios, given the known facts, that should remove blame from these guys?
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Can you think of any scenarios, given the known facts, that should remove blame from these guys?
I don't know any facts about that, it wasn't heavily reported. from what i do know they fucked up big-time, but they were under high alert or whatever they call it, so they probably get a slap on the wrist.
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they were incompetent, and scared to death guys
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This!
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they were incompetent, and scared to death guys
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This!
So Ron is using 'guys' for every word he thinks is offensive.
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Groink, what's your opinion on the cops that opened fire on the newspaper women?
I don't want to know any facts about that, it was heavily reported but I ignored it. from what i do know they fucked up big-time, but they were under high alert or whatever they call it, so I support them, I don't give a fuck about the innocents that the Police shoot, just the ones the bad guys do.
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Groink, what's your opinion on the cops that opened fire on the newspaper women?
Outrageous , totally unacceptable, police officers involved should be fired immediately.
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Giving the Police the ability to Fire Bomb a house and not be held accountable is a dangerous precedent that should not be set.
agreed
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Outrageous , totally unacceptable, police officers involved should be fired immediately.
But instead, they will receive time-off with pay, for stress and grief.
what a joke
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But instead, they will receive time-off with pay, for stress and grief.
what a joke
Sickening
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faawwk... thats more than sickening its damn scary.
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They get paid to do it. Why complain?
The response was to the stupid question of why did the officers try and capture him and get shot in the process.... because it's their job. Not complaining
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Does anyone know the approximate number of videos, clearly showing the final stand? (are there many, or few?)
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whose house was it, anyway?
will the police at least have to buy them a new house? ???
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whose house was it, anyway?
will the police at least have to buy them a new house? ???
No, the police won't. My guess is what insurance doesn't cover, the county will. Ultimately it's the tax payers that will pay for what insurance doesn't regardless of whether it's the police, Sheriff or local govt paying for it. But in the big picture, that house is a lot less expensive than if the man hunt went on for even days more.
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I heard an interview of the owners son. The insurance agent actually called the owner while the cabin was on fire. Agent assured owner that it will be fully covered.
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Does anyone know the approximate number of videos, clearly showing the final stand? (are there many, or few?)
Anyone?
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Anyone?
the media was forced back 4 to 5 miles before they burned the cabin down.
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the media was forced back 4 to 5 miles before they burned the cabin down.
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How do you enforce a 4 to 5 mile perimeter? can you imagine the manpower to create a 5 mile perimeter?
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I'd be scared rebuilding my cabin on that location. Dorner's evil spirit would probably haunt it and would still be complaining about the lapd.
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I'd be scared rebuilding my cabin on that location. Dorner's evil spirit would probably haunt it and would still be complaining about the lapd.
That's assuming black people have souls.
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That's assuming black people have souls.
daaaaayum....
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Oh Snap!!!!
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How do you enforce a 4 to 5 mile perimeter? can you imagine the manpower to create a 5 mile perimeter?
police knew where the media trucks were.
the media obeys orders. moved em on down the road.
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police knew where the media trucks were.
the media obeys orders. moved em on down the road.
Typically in a swat/volatile situation, media show up and try and get as close to possible to get their footage, disregarding safety often times. To address this, when there is a barricaded subject like this, areas are designated for the Command Post as well as a media area. The usual criteria we use is it needs to be a place that is out of the inner and outer perimeter and not in direct line of sight for safety reasons. It is a give and take. If we entirely push them so far away they feel they are being taken out of play then they stop cooperating with our designated areas and we have freelancing. So we work with the media and try to get them as close as possible, without causing interference with us, and out of danger for them. It wouldn't be in our best interest to push them 4 miles down the road, and they likely wouldn't stand for it. Plus, there were news helicopters in the air filming so if it were an attempt to cover something up, they sure wasted their time. I looked for links that addressed how the media was handled on the ground and couldn't find any specifically addressing the 4 miles down the road issue. I'd like to read it if you have one.
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Typically in a swat/volatile situation, media show up and try and get as close to possible to get their footage, disregarding safety often times. To address this, when there is a barricaded subject like this, areas are designated for the Command Post as well as a media area. The usual criteria we use is it needs to be a place that is out of the inner and outer perimeter and not in direct line of sight for safety reasons. It is a give and take. If we entirely push them so far away they feel they are being taken out of play then they stop cooperating with our designated areas and we have freelancing. So we work with the media and try to get them as close as possible, without causing interference with us, and out of danger for them. It wouldn't be in our best interest to push them 4 miles down the road, and they likely wouldn't stand for it. Plus, there were news helicopters in the air filming so if it were an attempt to cover something up, they sure wasted their time. I looked for links that addressed how the media was handled on the ground and couldn't find any specifically addressing the 4 miles down the road issue. I'd like to read it if you have one.
ok. i'll look. i'm sure many people were watching the news at the time and remember when they were pushed back. the fire came about 30 min after.
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ok. i'll look. i'm sure many people were watching the news at the time and remember when they were pushed back. the fire came about 30 min after.
I don't doubt for a minute they were pushed back.. if they are filming the cabin, they are too close. It was an active shoot situation. I just fail to see the police logic in moving them 4 miles down the road.
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I don't doubt for a minute they were pushed back.. if they are filming the cabin, they are too close. It was an active shoot situation.
they were being very cautious not to show any of the ativity and had no cabin shot. however, at that time, they lost all live feeds, all helicopters were sent out, etc.
they were upset at the time. Alex jones/prison planet did an immediate piece and predicted a death by fire a few minutes later. And that's what happened.
He's a nut on many things, but he nailed this one... media were told to get out, and the dude was burned. Not saying he wasn't a piece of shit worthy of it, but there's certainly a pattern of "you media have been allowed here all day... now we're kicking you out" followed by a huge "accidental" fire.
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they were being very cautious not to show any of the ativity and had no cabin shot. however, at that time, they lost all live feeds, all helicopters were sent out, etc.
they were upset at the time. Alex jones/prison planet did an immediate piece and predicted a death by fire a few minutes later. And that's what happened.
He's a nut on many things, but he nailed this one... media were told to get out, and the dude was burned. Not saying he wasn't a piece of shit worthy of it, but there's certainly a pattern of "you media have been allowed here all day... now we're kicking you out" followed by a huge "accidental" fire.
It was death by self infilcted gunshot, but don't let that stop you.
LOLOL....Rob is funny when he gets behind something, there's no dissuading him.
we have covered this already but apparently you won't acknowledge any info but your own.
The police FREELY and casually described what they are doing, step by step, with comfirmation...over the scanners, knowing full well thousands listen to them. there were still long shots of the fire , how the fuck do you hide a fire.....LOLOL.
you act as if they were trying to hide what they were doing....they were completely up front about it...and are to this day.
JUst like i said about the news conference...."we used CS gas after conventional gas failed, a fire ensued, no we didn't intentionally burn the cabin down....next question"
now it turns out he shot himself....so he couldn't flee the burning cabin because he was dead....explain how that's the polices fault, or that they can predict the future and knew dumbass was going to kill himself and his corpse burned.
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It was death by self infilcted gunshot, but don't let that stop you.
LOLOL....Rob is funny when he gets behind something, there's no dissuading him.
we have covered this already but apparently you won't acknowledge any info but your own.
The police FREELY and casually described what they are doing, step by step, with comfirmation...over the scanners, knowing full well thousands listen to them. there were still long shots of the fire , how the fuck do you hide a fire.....LOLOL.
you act as if they were trying to hide what they were doing....they were completely up front about it...and are to this day.
JUst like i said about the news conference...."we used CS gas after conventional gas failed, a fire ensued, no we didn't intentionally burn the cabin down....next question"
now it turns out he shot himself....so he couldn't flee the burning cabin because he was dead....explain how that's the polices fault, or that they can predict the future and knew dumbass was going to kill himself and his corpse burned.
Maybe 240 knows something that nobody else knows .
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Hahaha......shot himself like the bitch he was ;)
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they were being very cautious not to show any of the ativity and had no cabin shot. however, at that time, they lost all live feeds, all helicopters were sent out, etc.
they were upset at the time. Alex jones/prison planet did an immediate piece and predicted a death by fire a few minutes later. And that's what happened.
He's a nut on many things, but he nailed this one... media were told to get out, and the dude was burned. Not saying he wasn't a piece of shit worthy of it, but there's certainly a pattern of "you media have been allowed here all day... now we're kicking you out" followed by a huge "accidental" fire.
Again, having been at barricaded/armed situations more than a couple dozen times there should be no media allowed in the inner or inside the outer perimeter at anytime once the perimeters are established. We operate on the assumption the subject can start shooting at any time so you won't find reporters sitting on cop car hoods chatting it up with the officers in the perimeter. You shouldn't HAVE to "kick" media out when the shit hits the fan, they should have already been out.
Police have to assume bad guys watch TV and the local live news. Can you picture starting an assault on a residence and everything you are doing is being broadcast on live TV via the news copter? Not a very safe situation.
Now, I'll give you my personal opinion of what happened just based on the same news everyone else has. I could be way off base but at the moment, this may have been what happened..
a killer who has said he would not be taken alive and has recently killed cops and civilians is inside a cabin. he has fired shots at officers and it's reasonable to assume this isnt going to end well. They tried making contact and likely had a negotiator on scene with the intention of trying to go the easy way. The hard way has ended up with cops getting killed in the past. Dynamic entry, while cool to watch in the movies, still gives the bad guy the advantage of knowing you have to come through a door. And this bad guy was a guy familiar with dynamic entry. Likely negotiating wasn't going anywhere if he even responded at all other than gunfire. Next was the OC gas. This didn't work. Night time was coming and with darkness comes loss of visibility and increased the danger for the cops on the inner perimeter. A plan (there is ALWAYS a plan ) was created in which CS gas would be inserted in several windows at once. Turns out 7 were fired. Usually when these are deployed there are commands given over a P.A. system to come out with hands empty and up in the air. I'm guessing they knew there was a good chance the cabin would catch fire. I'm also guessing their hope was this would be the thing that forces Dormer out. If he came out with hands empty and in the air (He should know the drill) then he would be given commands and eventually taken into custody. If he came out armed, he would be shot. However when the CS was deployed, Dormer chose to kill himself, which underscores the fact he wasn't going to be taken alive either way.
If it went down that way, which makes sense to me from a tactical, strategical and logical standpoint, I really have no problem with it.
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Again, having been at barricaded/armed situations more than a couple dozen times there should be no media allowed in the inner or inside the outer perimeter at anytime once the perimeters are established. We operate on the assumption the subject can start shooting at any time so you won't find reporters sitting on cop car hoods chatting it up with the officers in the perimeter. You shouldn't HAVE to "kick" media out when the shit hits the fan, they should have already been out.
Police have to assume bad guys watch TV and the local live news. Can you picture starting an assault on a residence and everything you are doing is being broadcast on live TV via the news copter? Not a very safe situation.
Now, I'll give you my personal opinion of what happened just based on the same news everyone else has. I could be way off base but at the moment, this may have been what happened..
a killer who has said he would not be taken alive and has recently killed cops and civilians is inside a cabin. he has fired shots at officers and it's reasonable to assume this isnt going to end well. They tried making contact and likely had a negotiator on scene with the intention of trying to go the easy way. The hard way has ended up with cops getting killed in the past. Dynamic entry, while cool to watch in the movies, still gives the bad guy the advantage of knowing you have to come through a door. And this bad guy was a guy familiar with dynamic entry. Likely negotiating wasn't going anywhere if he even responded at all other than gunfire. Next was the OC gas. This didn't work. Night time was coming and with darkness comes loss of visibility and increased the danger for the cops on the inner perimeter. A plan (there is ALWAYS a plan ) was created in which CS gas would be inserted in several windows at once. Turns out 7 were fired. Usually when these are deployed there are commands given over a P.A. system to come out with hands empty and up in the air. I'm guessing they knew there was a good chance the cabin would catch fire. I'm also guessing their hope was this would be the thing that forces Dormer out. If he came out with hands empty and in the air (He should know the drill) then he would be given commands and eventually taken into custody. If he came out armed, he would be shot. However when the CS was deployed, Dormer chose to kill himself, which underscores the fact he wasn't going to be taken alive either way.
If it went down that way, which makes sense to me from a tactical, strategical and logical standpoint, I really have no problem with it.
good analysis, benchmstr
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Again, having been at barricaded/armed situations more than a couple dozen times there should be no media allowed in the inner or inside the outer perimeter at anytime once the perimeters are established. We operate on the assumption the subject can start shooting at any time so you won't find reporters sitting on cop car hoods chatting it up with the officers in the perimeter. You shouldn't HAVE to "kick" media out when the shit hits the fan, they should have already been out.
Police have to assume bad guys watch TV and the local live news. Can you picture starting an assault on a residence and everything you are doing is being broadcast on live TV via the news copter? Not a very safe situation.
Now, I'll give you my personal opinion of what happened just based on the same news everyone else has. I could be way off base but at the moment, this may have been what happened..
a killer who has said he would not be taken alive and has recently killed cops and civilians is inside a cabin. he has fired shots at officers and it's reasonable to assume this isnt going to end well. They tried making contact and likely had a negotiator on scene with the intention of trying to go the easy way. The hard way has ended up with cops getting killed in the past. Dynamic entry, while cool to watch in the movies, still gives the bad guy the advantage of knowing you have to come through a door. And this bad guy was a guy familiar with dynamic entry. Likely negotiating wasn't going anywhere if he even responded at all other than gunfire. Next was the OC gas. This didn't work. Night time was coming and with darkness comes loss of visibility and increased the danger for the cops on the inner perimeter. A plan (there is ALWAYS a plan ) was created in which CS gas would be inserted in several windows at once. Turns out 7 were fired. Usually when these are deployed there are commands given over a P.A. system to come out with hands empty and up in the air. I'm guessing they knew there was a good chance the cabin would catch fire. I'm also guessing their hope was this would be the thing that forces Dormer out. If he came out with hands empty and in the air (He should know the drill) then he would be given commands and eventually taken into custody. If he came out armed, he would be shot. However when the CS was deployed, Dormer chose to kill himself, which underscores the fact he wasn't going to be taken alive either way.
If it went down that way, which makes sense to me from a tactical, strategical and logical standpoint, I really have no problem with it.
Another completely rational and unbiased post....which will be rebuked with "They KNEW !!!!! They are murderers!!!! It says BURN on the audiotape !!!!!!!.......aaaaaarrrggh!!!"
;D ;D
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Yeah Groink, I'm certain the cops were pissed at Dormer, and I'm certain they were not at all upset to see the flames. I also think they were hoping he would come out armed, but I believe had he come out empty handed we'd be waiting for his arraignment. I wish, on a professional level they would have kept the remarks to themselves that wasn't related to the task, but I can understand it. I understood the sentiment of the officers who commented "Burn baby Burn" when a local disco burned up, but I also agreed with the days off they got for being unprofessional.
It does bother me probably more than it should that some people are anti police no matter what. Not saying everyone here that commented against the LAPD or Sheriff Dept are "anti cop" but you know the ones I mean. While I think it is a small percentage of the public, it still disappoints me. Some of them have real reasons, real life experiences that were brought on by some ass hole in a police uniform. I think the police in general are mostly stand up individuals who want to make a difference and help people. But we still have a ways to go in policing our own and gaining more of the publics trust.
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It was death by self infilcted gunshot, but don't let that stop you.
Um, he was in a basement underneath a cabin fire. I don't know that I can assign a lot of "choice" in that matter?
The police weren't in a 'chatty' mood... they were shooting at cars blindly. Dorner could have come out wtih his hands up, and we already know he would have been executed on the spot. They tried to execute him twice without any warning before (ended up getting the wrong car).
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Um, he was in a basement underneath a cabin fire. I don't know that I can assign a lot of "choice" in that matter?
The police weren't in a 'chatty' mood... they were shooting at cars blindly. Dorner could have come out wtih his hands up, and we already know he would have been executed on the spot. They tried to execute him twice without any warning before (ended up getting the wrong car).
240 trying to spice things up. was amusing 10 years ago. now it's just sad... like 240's hairline.
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Um, he was in a basement underneath a cabin fire. I don't know that I can assign a lot of "choice" in that matter?
The police weren't in a 'chatty' mood... they were shooting at cars blindly. Dorner could have come out wtih his hands up, and we already know he would have been executed on the spot. They tried to execute him twice without any warning before (ended up getting the wrong car).
LOL....this whole thing is his choice.
This somehow evades you.
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Does anyone know how the report came about, saying that Dorner was generating continual gunfire?
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Does anyone know how the report came about, saying that Dorner was generating continual gunfire?
LOL....what's next, ,you want proof he actually had a gun?
All he has to do is POINT a gun at a cop, and they are LEGALLY allowed to shoot him 700 times if they want.
You like to ask a lot of open ended questions what's your point...and what are you trying to say?
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LOL....what's next, ,you want proof he actually had a gun?
All he has to do is POINT a gun at a cop, and they are LEGALLY allowed to shoot him 700 times if they want.
You like to ask a lot of open ended questions what's your point...and what are you trying to say?
Simple question, Mr. Roid Rage.
Do you know the answer, or don't you?
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You were one of the people saying it, by the way.
Where did you get the information? That's all I'm asking. Calm the fuck down.
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judge jury executioner
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I'm trying to learn, just like everyone else.
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Um, he was in a basement underneath a cabin fire. I don't know that I can assign a lot of "choice" in that matter?
The police weren't in a 'chatty' mood... they were shooting at cars blindly. Dorner could have come out wtih his hands up, and we already know he would have been executed on the spot. They tried to execute him twice without any warning before (ended up getting the wrong car).
Police were shooting at cars blindly.. sounds pretty messed up ...but were they?
And "we" don't know shit. You conclude he would have been excecuted on the spot, however, time and time again, when barricaded suspects come out with their hands up, they are taken into custody.
As far as warning... why don't we wait until the facts come out? What if... once the facts are known about the delivery ladies it went down something like this;
5 am, dark.... residential street. You know, because you have run into it before, that in the dark, gray, blue, silver on a vehicle look about the same. Hell, you know from experience descriptions are put out all the time on a particular color only to find out it was a light blue vehicle instead of a silver one.
So, it's dark out, residential street. You are guarding a house on the hit list of a cop killing psycho. A vehicle matching the description approaches driving in an erratic manner. Slow, weaving, not the norm. As the vehicle approaches you see it matches the description pretty damn close. You or your partner turn on your overhead lights and give orders to stop over the PA. You can't see inside and you don't know it's two women. The driver, seeing the cops, freaks, doesn't know what to do, but doesn't stop. Lets say in a panic she accelerates. Based on the information you have you have to make a decision pretty damn quick as the vehicle is coming your way fast. So you and your partner blast the hell out of it, it passes by you continue blasting the hell out of it. When it does come to a stop you discover it's two females. You were given a tough task, put in a tough situation and made a decision to the best of your ability based on the information at that very moment. You don't have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.
Hell no I don't know if any of that happened. But I don't think you know none of it did. So why don't we wait until all the facts come out before we decide cops are blindly shooting at cars?
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not having 20 20 hindsight doesn't justify that. mistakes happen yes but thats a HUGE fuckup. death squad.
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Police were shooting at cars blindly.. sounds pretty messed up ...but were they?
Yes , they were .
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Police were shooting at cars blindly.. sounds pretty messed up ...but were they?
And "we" don't know shit. You conclude he would have been excecuted on the spot, however, time and time again, when barricaded suspects come out with their hands up, they are taken into custody.
As far as warning... why don't we wait until the facts come out? What if... once the facts are known about the delivery ladies it went down something like this;
5 am, dark.... residential street. You know, because you have run into it before, that in the dark, gray, blue, silver on a vehicle look about the same. Hell, you know from experience descriptions are put out all the time on a particular color only to find out it was a light blue vehicle instead of a silver one.
So, it's dark out, residential street. You are guarding a house on the hit list of a cop killing psycho. A vehicle matching the description approaches driving in an erratic manner. Slow, weaving, not the norm. As the vehicle approaches you see it matches the description pretty damn close. You or your partner turn on your overhead lights and give orders to stop over the PA. You can't see inside and you don't know it's two women. The driver, seeing the cops, freaks, doesn't know what to do, but doesn't stop. Lets say in a panic she accelerates. Based on the information you have you have to make a decision pretty damn quick as the vehicle is coming your way fast. So you and your partner blast the hell out of it, it passes by you continue blasting the hell out of it. When it does come to a stop you discover it's two females. You were given a tough task, put in a tough situation and made a decision to the best of your ability based on the information at that very moment. You don't have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.
Hell no I don't know if any of that happened. But I don't think you know none of it did. So why don't we wait until all the facts come out before we decide cops are blindly shooting at cars?
102 shots fired into the car... That's pretty damn blindly shooting don't you think.
All of that and those clowns still didn't kill anyone.
It's a damn miracle.
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102 shots fired into the car... That's pretty damn blindly shooting don't you think.
All of that and those clowns still didn't kill anyone.
It's a damn miracle.
Wow! If it were 102 shots that is quite amazing that no one was fatally wounded.
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Wow! If it were 102 shots that is quite amazing that no one was fatally wounded.
7 cops.
If they each used the department issued Glock 21 with a 13 round mag and unloaded it, then you're looking at 91 shots just there... Most would have 1 in the chamber already I'd wager, so that's 98.
The LAPD will allow you to qualify on any weapon you choose though, so it could have more or less rounds I supposed, but anything close to 100 makes it unbelievable and lucky as hell they didn't kill anyone.
They should be grateful that they all must be horrible shots.
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7 cops.
If they each used the department issued Glock 21 with a 13 round mag and unloaded it, then you're looking at 91 shots just there... Most would have 1 in the chamber already I'd wager, so that's 98.
The LAPD will allow you to qualify on any weapon you choose though, so it could have more or less rounds I supposed, but anything close to 100 makes it unbelievable and lucky as hell they didn't kill anyone.
They should be grateful that they all must be horrible shots.
Not to be a pest, but I don't think LAPD would be issuing .45's. Probably more likely a .40 like the Glock 22. I would also imagine they are not limited to that particular weapon so it's probably up in the air on the math at this point. But considering the amount of hits on the vehicle that may have been in motion part of the time, not too shabby. I can imagine their "oh crap" factor when it was discovered it was not Dormer and their "thank god" reaction when they found out they would be alright.
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Not to be a pest, but I don't think LAPD would be issuing .45's. Probably more likely a .40 like the Glock 22. I would also imagine they are not limited to that particular weapon so it's probably up in the air on the math at this point. But considering the amount of hits on the vehicle that may have been in motion part of the time, not too shabby. I can imagine their "oh crap" factor when it was discovered it was not Dormer and their "thank god" reaction when they found out they would be alright.
alright? i hope that if they but a 100 rounds into a truck that there would be some repercussion.s
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alright? i hope that if they but a 100 rounds into a truck that there would be some repercussion.s
alright as in the occupants would be alright..
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7 cops.
If they each used the department issued Glock 21 with a 13 round mag and unloaded it, then you're looking at 91 shots just there... Most would have 1 in the chamber already I'd wager, so that's 98.
The LAPD will allow you to qualify on any weapon you choose though, so it could have more or less rounds I supposed, but anything close to 100 makes it unbelievable and lucky as hell they didn't kill anyone.
They should be grateful that they all must be horrible shots.
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BOOOOOOM!!!!!!
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Not to be a pest, but I don't think LAPD would be issuing .45's. Probably more likely a .40 like the Glock 22. I would also imagine they are not limited to that particular weapon so it's probably up in the air on the math at this point. But considering the amount of hits on the vehicle that may have been in motion part of the time, not too shabby. I can imagine their "oh crap" factor when it was discovered it was not Dormer and their "thank god" reaction when they found out they would be alright.
You are being a pest because that IS what the LAPD gives you when you graduate the academy.
Fucking look it up.
A lot of jurisdictions give .45s.
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Chris Dorner = Great American Hero
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Chris Dorner = Great American Hero
Apparently there are f*cks out there that actually think that
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Chris Dorner = Great American Hero
Chris Dorner = Extra Crispy!!
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His eyes were blue. One blew this way, one blew that way.
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You are being a pest because that IS what the LAPD gives you when you graduate the academy.
Fucking look it up.
A lot of jurisdictions give .45s.
ok, here's what I found
Until 2002, LAPD officers' standard issue pistol was the Beretta 92F/92FS. However, when William Bratton was appointed Chief of the LAPD, he allowed his officers to carry the Glock pistol, a weapon which the two previous departments he was chief at (the New York City Police Department and the Boston Police Department) carried. New officers graduating from the LAPD academy are now issued the Glock 22 or Glock 17 but can qualify in a variety of firearms.[78] Officers now have the choice of carrying
Beretta:
92F, 92FS, 92FS-Stainless Steel, 8045 (4" barrel)
Smith & Wesson:
459, 5904, 5903, 659, 5906, 645, 4506, 4566, 4567, 5903 TSW, 5906 TSW, 4569 TSW, and 4566 TSW.
Glock:
9mm: Model 34, Model 17, Model 19 .40 caliber: Model 35, Model 22, Model 23 .45 ACP: Model 21, 21SF
That was from a quick wiki search but if you find something different, cool. Skip would call you a liar for saying Glock 21 but I just think you were mistaken. It happens
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ok, here's what I found
Until 2002, LAPD officers' standard issue pistol was the Beretta 92F/92FS. However, when William Bratton was appointed Chief of the LAPD, he allowed his officers to carry the Glock pistol, a weapon which the two previous departments he was chief at (the New York City Police Department and the Boston Police Department) carried. New officers graduating from the LAPD academy are now issued the Glock 22 or Glock 17 but can qualify in a variety of firearms.[78] Officers now have the choice of carrying
Beretta:
92F, 92FS, 92FS-Stainless Steel, 8045 (4" barrel)
Smith & Wesson:
459, 5904, 5903, 659, 5906, 645, 4506, 4566, 4567, 5903 TSW, 5906 TSW, 4569 TSW, and 4566 TSW.
Glock:
9mm: Model 34, Model 17, Model 19 .40 caliber: Model 35, Model 22, Model 23 .45 ACP: Model 21, 21SF
That was from a quick wiki search but if you find something different, cool. Skip would call you a liar for saying Glock 21 but I just think you were mistaken. It happens
Oh man... I guess I was wrong.
You got me!!! You have successfully proven a person wrong on the internet... It must be a big day for you.
What I find so interesting is that you're worried about the caliber, but hey... As long as it wasn't a .45 shooting into the car, it totally makes the 100+ rounds A-OK.
Doesn't change the fact that many jurisdictions also issue .45s.
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Oh man... I guess I was wrong.
You got me!!! You have successfully proven a person wrong on the internet... It must be a big day for you.
What I find so interesting is that you're worried about the caliber, but hey... As long as it wasn't a .45 shooting into the car, it totally makes the 100+ rounds A-OK.
Doesn't change the fact that many jurisdictions also issue .45s.
"You are being a pest because that IS what LAPD issues. Fuckin look it up..........."
I wouldn't have bothered had you not been such a dick. sheesh
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7 cops issued 100 shots into a vehicle - and they had NO CLUE who was inside.
There is no way to defend that. I dont care if it was driving slow or weaving or anything else. It was a death squad that got the wrong car.
I hope all 7 of them explain why they opened fire like that.
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"You are being a pest because that IS what LAPD issues. Fuckin look it up..........."
I wouldn't have bothered had you not been such a dick. sheesh
You are still ignoring that 7 cops shot up an innocent persons car with over 100 rounds.
Hahaha...You really have nothing else to say about that?
You can't even admit how fucked up it is? Can you even say "Those cops were wrong"?
Is that even in your vocabulary?
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vigilante death squad above the law
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7 cops issued 100 shots into a vehicle - and they had NO CLUE who was inside.
There is no way to defend that.
X100
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Rip tealc
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You are still ignoring that 7 cops shot up an innocent persons car with over 100 rounds.
Hahaha...You really have nothing else to say about that?
You can't even admit how fucked up it is? Can you even say "Those cops were wrong"?
Is that even in your vocabulary?
Man I went into complete detail on a possible scenario on the shooting... that isn't ignoring it. Fuckin look it up
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Rip tealc
Haha
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Man I went into complete detail on a possible scenario on the shooting... that isn't ignoring it. Fuckin look it up
You went into complete detail on why you think it could happen. I saw that.
Why don't you give an opinion on whether or not you think those Cops did the right thing or not?
See... We see what you do. You give scenarios, then you give zero opinion that would go against your boys in blue.
You're a shill.
Everyone can fuckin' look THAT up.
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You went into complete detail on why you think it could happen. I saw that.
Why don't you give an opinion on whether or not you think those Cops did the right thing or not?
See... We see what you do. You give scenarios, then you give zero opinion that would go against your boys in blue.
You're a shill.
Everyone can fuckin' look THAT up.
I'm waiting for all the facts.. See, I understand that we ask cops to do a tough job and most times they are doing the best they can, and that is better than what most people can do without the training. So we sit back on our couch and watch the news and see that a bunch of renegade cops shot up a truck for no apparent reason because they're out of control and we demand they be fired, hung, put in prison..
But having been in situation myself where what appeared to be a logical conclusion based on the available information I had at the time, turns out to be different than what it appears. Sometimes there are just a chain of unfortunate events that lead to bad endings. I gave a possible scenario to paint a picture of what may have been going through their minds at the time. Often times there isn't the luxury of wait and see. I would expect that the shooting be examined extensively and if it is found the officers responded in a manner that a reasonable person would not respond in, given the same set of circumstances and with the same information the officers had at the time, then certainly they should be held accountable. But I'm waiting to see what was going on.
I would be surprised if there wasn't at least a conclusion that the procedure they used to set up guard on a residence won't be changed in order to reduce the odds of this happening again. In fact, one of the things that is always looked at in these incidents is how can we do better next time. There are after action reports for major incidents and there are DE-briefings for smaller ones.. and in every case, even when things go well, officers are supposed to critique themselves and talk about ways to do it better next time.
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I'm waiting for all the facts.. See, I understand that we ask cops to do a tough job and most times they are doing the best they can, and that is better than what most people can do without the training. So we sit back on our couch and watch the news and see that a bunch of renegade cops shot up a truck for no apparent reason because they're out of control and we demand they be fired, hung, put in prison..
But having been in situation myself where what appeared to be a logical conclusion based on the available information I had at the time, turns out to be different than what it appears. Sometimes there are just a chain of unfortunate events that lead to bad endings. I gave a possible scenario to paint a picture of what may have been going through their minds at the time. Often times there isn't the luxury of wait and see. I would expect that the shooting be examined extensively and if it is found the officers responded in a manner that a reasonable person would not respond in, given the same set of circumstances and with the same information the officers had at the time, then certainly they should be held accountable. But I'm waiting to see what was going on.
7 cops and 100+ rounds and they were little asian ladies.
Yeah... That's what we should wait for.
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This is a no-win, 007. You should back away from this one. Some friendly advice, bro.
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7 cops and 100+ rounds and they were little asian ladies.
Yeah... That's what we should wait for.
Again, you are an anti cop closed minded shill for the anti police crowd. Nothing they do is right so I don't expect you to ever get past the 7 cops and 100 plus rounds thing... luckily you won't be involved in reviewing and investigating it so that it has a chance to be fair and impartial.
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This is a no-win, 007. You should back away from this one. Some friendly advice, bro.
Yeah, I see that.. thanks I'll follow your advice
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By the way, some props to 007. He is on here to communicate, and to learn, just like the rest of us.
(And even though he'd probably be the last person to admit it, this sets him way ahead of the average cop, without question.)
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Again, you are an anti cop closed minded shill for the anti police crowd. Nothing they do is right so I don't expect you to ever get past the 7 cops and 100 plus rounds thing... luckily you won't be involved in reviewing and investigating it so that it has a chance to be fair and impartial.
That's not true... I expect cops to actually help people. Do some good.
IF they do, then I have, even on getbig, said good things about them.
I am anti-police STATE, not anti-police.
HUGE difference, but I don't expect you to see it.
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Shouldn't the cops at least ask them to step out of the vehicle before opening fire ???
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Shouldn't the cops at least ask them to step out of the vehicle before opening fire ???
This begins to approach the reason why it is a no-win for anyone who would attempt to explain the behavior of the cops.
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It becomes very difficult to defend the idea that the goal was in fact to preserve innocent life.
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It becomes very difficult to defend the idea that the goal was in fact to preserve innocent life.
Exactly... It's completely unbelievable you could excuse this act.
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Again, you are an anti cop closed minded shill for the anti police crowd.
I'm not ,
Shooting at two vehicles, with no warning, in separate incidents minutes apart .............
You can't defend that.
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Shouldn't the cops at least ask them to step out of the vehicle before opening fire ???
damn it...here I go..
I think by the 100+ shots we can draw a pretty likely conclusion that at the moment they opened fire they believed Chris Dormer was in the truck. Why they believed it I can only speculate but it appears they did. Now in most cases cops don't just open fire like a scene out of a movie. Their first step usually is to give verbal commands to show their hands, toss the keys out, open the door, get out with your hands above your head..etc etc.. If those commands aren't followed then things escalate. Usually a repeat of the commands in a we mean business tone and so on. So yes, cops usually do ask bad guys to give up first... in this case, since I'm fairly certain they really thought they had Dormer, there likely was some attempt to get the vehicle to stop but considering Dormer
1. Said he wouldn't be taken alive
2. Was likely heavily armed
3. Had already shown he would shoot on sight
4. Had already killed cops and citizens
They didn't feel they had a lot of time or leeway to work with and responded with deadly force. Turns out, whatever reasons they thought they had that the vehicle contained Dorner was not correct. Innocent people were hurt, almost killed and in fact 1 was shot twice. Certainly a fucked up situation all around
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I'm not ,
Shooting at two vehicles, with no warning, in separate incidents minutes apart .............
You can't defend that.
Chris Rock had a line in one of his routines...the punch line was something like..."I don't condone it.......but I understand it...."
When the circumstances and facts come out I may very well be on here saying they were so grossly incompetent they need to be fired. Until then I am willing to entertain the prospect that while it is fucked up, it may be somewhat understandable based on the totality of the circumstances. If you aren't, and have already concluded there is no excuse, that's certainly your prerogative.
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damn it...here I go..
I think by the 100+ shots we can draw a pretty likely conclusion that at the moment they opened fire they believed Chris Dormer was in the truck. Why they believed it I can only speculate but it appears they did. Now in most cases cops don't just open fire like a scene out of a movie. Their first step usually is to give verbal commands to show their hands, toss the keys out, open the door, get out with your hands above your head..etc etc.. If those commands aren't followed then things escalate. Usually a repeat of the commands in a we mean business tone and so on. So yes, cops usually do ask bad guys to give up first... in this case, since I'm fairly certain they really thought they had Dormer, there likely was some attempt to get the vehicle to stop but considering Dormer
1. Said he wouldn't be taken alive
2. Was likely heavily armed
3. Had already shown he would shoot on sight
4. Had already killed cops and citizens
They didn't feel they had a lot of time or leeway to work with and responded with deadly force. Turns out, whatever reasons they thought they had that the vehicle contained Dorner was not correct. Innocent people were hurt, almost killed and in fact 1 was shot twice. Certainly a fucked up situation all around
So what you're saying is that a citizen should be able to shoot first and ask questions later?
Why not?
Apparently your average citizen can be just as accurate as the Police. IE completely wrong.
Effectively you have just said that it is perfectly acceptable under "heightened circumstances" to completely fuck up and shoot people.
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So what you're saying is that a citizen should be able to shoot first and ask questions later?
Why not?
Apparently your average citizen can be just as accurate as the Police. IE completely wrong.
Effectively you have just said that it is perfectly acceptable under "heightened circumstances" to completely fuck up and shoot people.
Average citizens have shot their sons in a closet thinking the son, who was playing a game on dad, was a burglar. Average citizens have shot their kids, in their car in their driveway, thinking it was someone trying to steal the car... I don't think the citizen was out to just kill anyone and their son got in the way. The information they had at the time led them to believe, there was a bad guy in the closet and in their car..unfortunate chains of events sometimes happen..
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Average citizens have shot their sons in a closet thinking the son, who was playing a game on dad, was a burglar. Average citizens have shot their kids, in their car in their driveway, thinking it was someone trying to steal the car... I don't think the citizen was out to just kill anyone and their son got in the way. The information they had at the time led them to believe, there was a bad guy in the closet and in their car..unfortunate chains of events sometimes happen..
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These cops aren't average citizens.
How do you explain the second incident ?
Torrance, Calif. police cruiser "slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire ,no command, no instruction, no warning .''
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These cops aren't average citizens.
How do you explain the second incident ?
Torrance, Calif. police cruiser "slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire ,no command, no instruction, no warning .''
I don't have all the facts on that one. I just heard a short clip saying the officer that slammed into the pickup was responding to a shots fired call and saw the truck pulling away from officers and thought it was trying to evade after shooting at police. I have no idea if that is true or not. I really do want to hear what the facts are when the investigation is done. I am hoping the news does a good job of covering it and provides the diagrams, computer mock ups and chronological order of every second of the encounters.
And if it shows the cops as keystone ish then let the chips fall where they may
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So we have a situation where the police should want to apprehend Dorner to protect from further loss of life. Not a situation where the police would be controlled by a desire to kill Dorner. That's the way it is supposed to work, and that's what a person should rightly expect.
Looking at the evidence, however, it would appear that a desire to kill Dorner overcame all else--most importantly, the preservation of innocent life--and it appears there is no way around facing it. Can anyone explain why this would happen?
So while it may be understandable, it is not acceptable.
Please recognize the irony, in Dorner being fired for allegedly making a false accusation against a supervisor, while the other such behavior has so far been passed upon. This is the message LAPD has chosen to send to the public. This is why people are angry.
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The irony is, in the end, dorner PROVED that there are bad cops , and prolly more than the average joe would think there are.
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So we have a situation where the police should want to apprehend Dorner to protect from further loss of life. Not a situation where the police would be controlled by a desire to kill Dorner. That's the way it is supposed to work, and that's what a person should rightly expect.
Looking at the evidence, however, it would appear that a desire to kill Dorner overcame all else--most importantly, the preservation of innocent life--and it appears there is no way around facing it. Can anyone explain why this would happen?
So while it may be understandable, it is not acceptable.
Please recognize the irony, in Dorner being fired for allegedly making a false accusation against a supervisor, while the other such behavior has so far been passed upon. This is the message LAPD has chosen to send to the public. This is why people are angry.
Jack, I hear ya, but while you say "it would appear that a desire to kill Dorner overcame all else" I would say a desire to survive what they expected to be a violent confrontation with a killer, was the catalyst.
There are many videos of perfectly innocent people getting shot at by soldiers at blockades because they had to make a quick decision when a vehicle wouldn't stop when approaching them. Because vehicles have been loaded in the past with explosives, and a normal person would stop when they are being confronted by armed personnel, the reasonable conclusion is there is something wrong and if they wait until that vehicle is upon them, they, and those around them could be dead. So they open up after warnings are given. For whatever reason, sometimes it turns out to be a family on the way to market. Sometimes though, it turns out to be a explosive laden vehicle driven by a lunatic. Sometimes they wait too long to decide and then we read about it in the papers.
While I don't condone that, I can certainly understand how it can happen.
As far as Dormer proving his case, we are aren't seeing eye to eye on that. I've had a hand in firing an employee who was a liar and dangerous. He will tell you to this day it was a conspiracy and he was a good cop just trying to do the right thing. He's wrong, he was and is a psycho and a danger to himself and others, not to mention a prolific liar. If every employee who was thought he or she was wrongfully terminated went on a killing spree, and people cheered them on.. it's be pretty fucked up..
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The irony is, in the end, dorner PROVED that there are bad cops , and prolly more than the average joe would think there are.
No, he didnt.. hope this helps. I don't think there are too many people who don't believe there are bad cops. What he proved was he was psycho and they were right in getting him off the force.
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No, he didnt.. hope this helps. I don't think there are too many people who don't believe there are bad cops. What he proved was he was psycho and they were right in getting him off the force.
He actually proved both.
I hope THIS helps.
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Jack, I hear ya, but while you say "it would appear that a desire to kill Dorner overcame all else" I would say a desire to survive what they expected to be a violent confrontation with a killer, was the catalyst.
There are many videos of perfectly innocent people getting shot at by soldiers at blockades because they had to make a quick decision when a vehicle wouldn't stop when approaching them. Because vehicles have been loaded in the past with explosives, and a normal person would stop when they are being confronted by armed personnel, the reasonable conclusion is there is something wrong and if they wait until that vehicle is upon them, they, and those around them could be dead. So they open up after warnings are given. For whatever reason, sometimes it turns out to be a family on the way to market. Sometimes though, it turns out to be a explosive laden vehicle driven by a lunatic. Sometimes they wait too long to decide and then we read about it in the papers.
While I don't condone that, I can certainly understand how it can happen.
As far as Dormer proving his case, we are aren't seeing eye to eye on that. I've had a hand in firing an employee who was a liar and dangerous. He will tell you to this day it was a conspiracy and he was a good cop just trying to do the right thing. He's wrong, he was and is a psycho and a danger to himself and others, not to mention a prolific liar. If every employee who was thought he or she was wrongfully terminated went on a killing spree, and people cheered them on.. it's be pretty fucked up..
The fact that you'd have to draw a comparison between war zones elsewhere and a residential street in America should tell you something, 007.
We have a situation where the police placed themselves in a position where--if Dorner were to appear--they would be apparently unable to secure the situation without opening fire as a first step.
Do you see where this is going?
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The fact that you'd have to draw a comparison between war zones elsewhere and a residential street in America should tell you something, 007.
We have a situation where the police placed themselves in a position where--if Dorner were to appear--they would be apparently unable to secure the situation without opening fire as a first step.
Do you see where this is going?
Dorner also made it quite clear in his ram ling lunatic diatribe that he wasn't going to surrender without a fight. How should a man like that be approached?
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Dorner also made it quite clear in his ram ling lunatic diatribe that he wasn't going to surrender without a fight. How should a man like that be approached?
Very fucking carefully, but you see him, you fucking put the gun to his head and if he pulls any shit, you wax him.
You don't shoot up cars that may look alike... Even though it has been determined that he had burned his truck a day or two before.
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Very fucking carefully, but you see him, you fucking put the gun to his head and if he pulls any shit, you wax him.
You don't shoot up cars that may look alike... Even though it has been determined that he had burned his truck a day or two before.
No question, those pigs fucked and should be fired.
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damn it...here I go..
I think by the 100+ shots we can draw a pretty likely conclusion that at the moment they opened fire they believed Chris Dormer was in the truck. Why they believed it I can only speculate but it appears they did. Now in most cases cops don't just open fire like a scene out of a movie. Their first step usually is to give verbal commands to show their hands, toss the keys out, open the door, get out with your hands above your head..etc etc.. If those commands aren't followed then things escalate. Usually a repeat of the commands in a we mean business tone and so on. So yes, cops usually do ask bad guys to give up first... in this case, since I'm fairly certain they really thought they had Dormer, there likely was some attempt to get the vehicle to stop but considering Dormer
1. Said he wouldn't be taken alive
2. Was likely heavily armed
3. Had already shown he would shoot on sight
4. Had already killed cops and citizens
They didn't feel they had a lot of time or leeway to work with and responded with deadly force. Turns out, whatever reasons they thought they had that the vehicle contained Dorner was not correct. Innocent people were hurt, almost killed and in fact 1 was shot twice. Certainly a fucked up situation all around
So that means cops forego due process and execute on sight anyone and anything that might resemble a threat?
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The fact that you'd have to draw a comparison between war zones elsewhere and a residential street in America should tell you something, 007.
We have a situation where the police placed themselves in a position where--if Dorner were to appear--they would be apparently unable to secure the situation without opening fire as a first step.
Do you see where this is going?
Yes, and I think I have mentioned that myself... that it is likely they were placed in a lose lose situation and that protocol and policy will likely change because of it. And we don't know if opening fire was the first step at this point.
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So that means cops forego due process and execute on sight anyone and anything that might resemble a threat?
Not at all. We deal with threats on a daily basis. Not agreeing with "execute" at this point. Way to early in the process. I do wonder if the dead cops had a chance to say "drop your weapon" or not..
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Dorner also made it quite clear in his ram ling lunatic diatribe that he wasn't going to surrender without a fight. How should a man like that be approached?
Archer, you approach him in such a way where you see him before he sees you.
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Come on, guys. Holy shit.
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Just stunning, that the LAPD hasn't been dismantled and taken over.
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Crazy shit, man. Crazy world.
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IF the cops were so frantic and scared and angry and panicked that they decided to open fire on a car without knowing who is insude...
I'd say it's probably time to ask them to not carry a gun any more. Their judgment is blocked by their emotion. If they can get this angry that they will execute innocents (it was a frickin miracle these 2 survived 100 bullets) then they dont need to be carrying a gun and chasing shadows in the night.
Whatever happened, they proved they aren't responsible enough for the power to carry weapon. Period.
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Dorner also made it quite clear in his ram ling lunatic diatribe that he wasn't going to surrender without a fight. How should a man like that be approached?
THis has NOTHING to do with the shooting. Had they executed Dormer with 100 rounds in this vehicle, then we could maybe apply your argument.
All they did was see a similar vehicle driving in a pattern they didn't like, and they made the MONSTER assumption that the dude inside was worthy of an execution without as much as a verbal warning or request.
They got the wrong car. They should retire and push papers, not be on the street looking for bad guys next week, with the same itchy trigger fingers.
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THis has NOTHING to do with the shooting. Had they executed Dormer with 100 rounds in this vehicle, then we could maybe apply your argument.
All they did was see a similar vehicle driving in a pattern they didn't like, and they made the MONSTER assumption that the dude inside was worthy of an execution without as much as a verbal warning or request.
They got the wrong car. They should retire and push papers, not be on the street looking for bad guys next week, with the same itchy trigger fingers.
Someone needs to face charges.
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THis has NOTHING to do with the shooting. Had they executed Dormer with 100 rounds in this vehicle, then we could maybe apply your argument.
All they did was see a similar vehicle driving in a pattern they didn't like, and they made the MONSTER assumption that the dude inside was worthy of an execution without as much as a verbal warning or request.
They got the wrong car. They should retire and push papers, not be on the street looking for bad guys next week, with the same itchy trigger fingers.
I acknowledged the cops were wrong and the appropriate justice should be rendered against them
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cops arent there to prevent crime, they are there to solve them after they happen. they are virtually powerless to help you.
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Pigs out and about in Los Angeles trying to sell the death photos to the highest bidder
Christopher Dorner
Gruesome Death Pics for Sale
Christopher Dorner's badly scorched, partially dismembered body was photographed after his death ... and TMZ has learned the pics are now being shopped to the media.
TMZ has seen the photos (the sellers showed up to our doorstep) -- and the shots are extremely gruesome.
The top of Dorner's head is gone ... presumably the result of the self-inflicted gunshot wound that ended his life after the gun battle at a remote cabin in Big Bear, CA last week.
The body is missing several limbs ... including an arm and parts of a leg ... and his midsection is charred from the fire that consumed the cabin during the Feb. 12 shoot-out.
Despite the intense blaze, several body parts remained intact ... including his eyeballs, chest area and penis.
In fact, Dorner's upper teeth were barely damaged ... which helped authorities ID the body.
TMZ did not purchase the photos -- but the sellers are definitely on the hunt for a buyer.
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Pigs out and about in Los Angeles trying to sell the death photos to the highest bidder
Christopher Dorner
Gruesome Death Pics for Sale
stark seeing how much money he has in the bank as we speak
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cops arent there to prevent crime, they are there to solve them after they happen. they are virtually powerless to help you.
They rarely solve crimes... Usually they just "report" on crimes.
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Pigs out and about in Los Angeles trying to sell the death photos to the highest bidder
Christopher Dorner
Gruesome Death Pics for Sale
Christopher Dorner's badly scorched, partially dismembered body was photographed after his death ... and TMZ has learned the pics are now being shopped to the media.
TMZ has seen the photos (the sellers showed up to our doorstep) -- and the shots are extremely gruesome.
The top of Dorner's head is gone ... presumably the result of the self-inflicted gunshot wound that ended his life after the gun battle at a remote cabin in Big Bear, CA last week.
The body is missing several limbs ... including an arm and parts of a leg ... and his midsection is charred from the fire that consumed the cabin during the Feb. 12 shoot-out.
Despite the intense blaze, several body parts remained intact ... including his eyeballs, chest area and penis.
In fact, Dorner's upper teeth were barely damaged ... which helped authorities ID the body.
TMZ did not purchase the photos -- but the sellers are definitely on the hunt for a buyer.
Hmmm, didn't see anywhere in the story the cops were selling them. Could be, but there are a lot of people with access to that scene (Coroner, civilian Forensics) however IF it is found that it was cops, then I hope they get a lot of money for them, because they will likely be jobless and in need of good attorneys.
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They rarely solve crimes... Usually they just "report" on crimes.
Yeah, we are pretty worthless...
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They rarely solve crimes... Usually they just "report" on crimes.
90% of crimes are self reported.
'hello sir, i stopped you for speeding"
"oh, thank god, i thought you knew about the 4 kilograms of cocaine i had in the trunk"
pro tip = shut the fuck up!
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Yeah, we are pretty worthless...
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Truly though, I disagree... I think MOST of you are. Not all of you.
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They rarely solve crimes... Usually they just "report" on crimes.
i was being conservative, but yeah your dead on. feel sorry for the 'true believers'
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where are his death photos? saw it on the news. they said that they are leaked but I am not able to find them.
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where are his death photos? saw it on the news. they said that they are leaked but I am not able to find them.
dont be weird arce
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From TMZ :::Despite the fact that Dorner allegedly shot himself and was burned to death in the cabin, TMZ states that his eyeballs, chest area and penis remained intact. Dorner’s upper teeth were also reportedly untouched which helped to identify him.:::
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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/03/14/la-agrees-to-pay-40k-to-women-mistakenly-shot-at-during-dorner-hunt
LOL!!!!!
GMSFB!!!!
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this whole thing never happened it was a hoax
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this whole thing never happened it was a hoax
You're too much, man. Drop the pipe.
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this whole thing never happened it was a hoax
Dude - time for intervention - check yo self
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if you dont believe it was a false flag then thats on you, go do the research, its out there. http://www.ibtimes.com/conspiracy-theorist-calls-christopher-dorner-manhunt-hoax-video-la-shooting-saga-continues-1070928
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Dude - time for intervention - check yo self
You have to admit the LAPD just shot up a truck with two women in it and now they have the nerve to only offer up 40 k in restitution. What a fucking joke. Trampling on the right of innocent bystanders.
Anything is possible at this point.
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Man his old co workers couldn't wait to get him
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I am Kinda Glad those SNITCH RATS ain't getting shit
We told you this was gonna happen ... some of the folks who offered a reward for the capture of cop killer Christopher Dorner have wussed out on a technicality.
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We did the first story ... that the reward was for the arrest and conviction of the former LAPD cop. Since Dorner killed himself rather than surrender, the conditions were not met, although there's absolutely no doubt several citizens were instrumental in surrounding the cabin where he was holed up.
The County of Riverside -- which offered $100,000 - has just announced it will not ante up to anyone.
Other local governments have offered additional rewards totaling more than $1 million. The jury is out on whether they'll do the right thing or follow Riverside's lead.
BTW ... good luck Riverside County, the next time you ask people for help and offer a reward.
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The older mother said she aint got no time for a long trial she is 70yrs old wants to spend that cash now
http://ktla.com/2013/04/23/women-shot-by-lapd-during-dorner-manhunt-agree-to-settlement/ (http://ktla.com/2013/04/23/women-shot-by-lapd-during-dorner-manhunt-agree-to-settlement/)
Women Shot in Dorner Manhunt to Receive $2.1 Million each
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LOS ANGELES — The mother and daughter newspaper carriers injured when police mistakenly fired on them during the February manhunt for ex-cop Christopher Dorner would receive $4.2 million under a settlement announced by city officials.
The settlement was remarkably speedy compared with other LAPD civil lawsuits, which have taken years to be resolved. City Atty. Carmen Trutanich was blunt Tuesday in saying the city wanted to get the case, which has been a sore spot for the Police Department, behind it as quickly as possible.
“Hopefully this will put an end to the Dorner saga once and for all,” Trutanich said.
The agreement, he said, was a “no-brainer because the costs were going to skyrocket” if negotiations had dragged on and ended up in court.
“We got out of this thing pretty cheaply, all things considered,” he said.
The LAPD has from the beginning described the incident as a tragic mistake by officers.
Chief Charlie Beck met with the women a few days after the shooting to personally apologize and launched an investigation into the officers’ conduct, which is still ongoing.
As of Tuesday, the eight officers involved remain off patrol duties.
Margie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were hurt when a Toyota truck they were driving on a Torrance street was repeatedly fired upon by Los Angeles Police Department officers in the early morning hours of Feb. 7.
The women, who were delivering the Los Angeles Times in a quiet suburban neighborhood, had unknowingly driven down a street that included the heavily guarded home of an LAPD captain named by Dorner in an online manifesto listing his grievances against law enforcement.
Carranza sustained superficial wounds while her mother was struck twice in the back, their lawyers say. Both have recovered.
The $4.2-million payout raised eyebrows, with some legal experts saying it was unusually high for a case involving a police shooting that didn’t cause debilitating injuries.
“It is fair, but high,” said Los Angeles civil rights attorney Carl Douglas.
David Klinger, a use-of-force expert at the University of Missouri at St. Louis and a former LAPD officer, noted that neither victim faced long-term physical problems as a result of the incident.
“A payout of this magnitude typically comes in cases with crippling injuries and deaths,” he said.
At a news conference Tuesday near City Hall, lawyers for both sides portrayed the settlement as a reasonable compromise.
“I have a 71-year-old client. You think she wants to wait five to 10 years for a maybe or a could be, or risk the appellate court reversing it for one reason or another due to some instructional error? $4.2 million means a lot more to her today than potentially $7 million 10 years down the road,” said Glen Jonas, the women’s lawyer.
The settlement must now be approved by the City Council, which typically OKs such payouts.
Council approval would end a public dispute between the mother and daughter’s lawyers and the city, wrangling highlighted most recently over a disagreement over how best to replace the damaged truck.
Since the women have declined to speak publicly, and police have provided only brief descriptions, details on the shooting remain sketchy.
But this much is known: In an Irvine parking lot on Feb. 3, Dorner had allegedly shot to death the daughter of a former LAPD captain listed in the manifesto, as well as her fiance.
Days later, as LAPD officers stood watch over the captain’s house in Torrance, an alert went out that a truck matching Dorner’s was seen in the area.
Hours before, Dorner had allegedly shot at four police officers in the Riverside area, killing one.
About 5 a.m. Feb. 7, the mother and daughter’s blue Toyota rolled slowly down Redbeam Avenue in Torrance.
Carranza was at the wheel, her window rolled down as she tossed newspapers toward homes. Her mother was seated behind her, rolling the papers up.
The mayhem began when police stationed on the block somehow mistook the Toyota for a gray Nissan Titan that Dorner was said to be driving.
Jonas has described his clients as receiving “no commands, no instructions and no opportunity for surrender” as they went down the street.
He has also said the truck’s headlights and hazard lights were on, contrary to early reports. When police opened fire, he said, the truck’s cabin became a storm of bullets, shattered glass and plastic.
“Margie is screaming ‘we are being shot at, we are being shot at!’ ” Jonas said. “Then she screamed out, ‘I am just the newspaper woman, I am the newspaper woman!’ “
When the shooting stopped, the street looked like something out of a war zone.
The bullet-riddled truck was stopped in the middle of the street, facing north, having lurched a few doors past the captain’s residence.
Nearby homes, trees and vehicles were pockmarked by scores of bullet holes.
Nobody living in the neighborhood was injured; most residents were in their beds and asleep when the shooting began.
The women — who live in a cramped South Bay apartment with Carranza’s teenage son — avoided being killed, but Hernandez appears especially lucky.
A bullet pierced her upper back and exited her chest, barely missing her heart, Jonas said.
Another hit her in the lower back but bounced off. Carranza suffered less serious wounds, escaping the mayhem with cuts on both hands.
Not long after the shooting, Beck called it a “tragic misinterpretation” by officers working under “incredible tension.”
The Police Department pledged to replace the truck, but the offer became bogged down in a public spat when the truck wasn’t speedily delivered.
When the women were finally offered a replacement truck, it wasn’t just a different model, it was a vehicle the women would have to pay taxes on.
The battle over the truck ended recently when the city agreed to give the women $40,000 to replace it.
Lawyers involved in the settlement said they were eager to put the shooting, and memories of Christopher Dorner, in the past.
Days after the Torrance incident Dorner’s charred remains were found in a Big Bear-area cabin after a shootout with police.
City officials continue to grapple over the payout of a $1-million reward offered during the manhunt.
Several people have claimed the reward. The LAPD announced that a three-judge panel will determine who gets it.
There’s also the matter of the second police shooting — by Torrance officers — that occurred on the morning of Feb. 7.
They also mistakenly believed they’d come upon Dorner in a truck.
That vehicle’s driver, David Perdue, was not seriously hurt. His lawyer, Todd Thibodo, said Tuesday that mediation talks for a payout from Torrance are set to begin in June.
-Los Angeles Times
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No doubt this dude pulled lots of high end pussy.
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if you dont believe it was a false flag then thats on you, go do the research, its out there. http://www.ibtimes.com/conspiracy-theorist-calls-christopher-dorner-manhunt-hoax-video-la-shooting-saga-continues-1070928
lol
"Riverside told ABC.But YouTube user "dave j," who has a long history of posting and discussing conspiracy and hoax videos on the popular video-sharing site, has released a video calling the entire situation into question, claiming that the shootings and the ensuing manhunt are nothing more than a ruse by California law enforcement agencies looking to instill fear in the populace and seize greater control of the public"
Lol a random youtube user is the source? Typical conspiracy nut cases, the source is not important as long it supports them
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I hope those shot-at bitches buy Chris a nice, bling headstone ..
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Starting February 3, 2013, Christopher Dorner, 33, a fired Los Angeles police officer, began a series of shootings in Orange, Los Angeles, and Riverside counties in California, United States. The victims were law enforcement officers and civilians, including law enforcement families (and those who were misidentified as the suspect by police). Dorner killed four people and wounded three others. During the pursuit of Dorner, three innocent people were injured by law enforcement. The rampage ended on February 12, 2013, when Dorner died during a standoff with police at a cabin in the San Bernardino Mountains.
It's been four years since getbigger Chris Dorner's rampage.
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